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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3525 on: February 11, 2011, 02:41:27 pm »

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that needs framework provided by the caravan arc like that stuff for stuff to work.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3526 on: February 11, 2011, 02:43:08 pm »

Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that needs framework provided by the caravan arc like that stuff for stuff to work.
which is why I asked ;)
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3527 on: February 11, 2011, 11:08:46 pm »

Will Legends mode have a section for battle added to it as a part of the Army Arc?

The reason I ask is I noticed in my first fort that there were some battles nearby where human villages were besieged by elephants once every 20 years or so.  I wanted to look more into these weird occurrences, but found I could not look up battles as a topic (at least I couldn't find a way).

I figured that its a feature in the works (both because I see that each major battle in dwarf mode has a name and I'm pretty sure I seen it mentioned in a DF Talk somewhere) so I just thought "oh well", but with the Army Arc coming I was curious if that would be included in with the Army Arc or saved for a future update perhaps when Legends mode receives updates. I'm not asking for an ETA or anything specific timing-wise. Just if it will be included in the Army Arc or not.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3528 on: February 12, 2011, 12:01:59 am »

Will Legends mode have a section for battle added to it as a part of the Army Arc?

The reason I ask is I noticed in my first fort that there were some battles nearby where human villages were besieged by elephants once every 20 years or so.  I wanted to look more into these weird occurrences, but found I could not look up battles as a topic (at least I couldn't find a way).

I figured that its a feature in the works (both because I see that each major battle in dwarf mode has a name and I'm pretty sure I seen it mentioned in a DF Talk somewhere) so I just thought "oh well", but with the Army Arc coming I was curious if that would be included in with the Army Arc or saved for a future update perhaps when Legends mode receives updates. I'm not asking for an ETA or anything specific timing-wise. Just if it will be included in the Army Arc or not.

That's funny... I can find battles and such just fine in legends mode.  It doesn't have a "battles" tab, if that's what you mean, but it's all the yellow stuff in the "The Age of ____" catagories.

I haven't gone looking for animal attacks specifically, though.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3529 on: February 12, 2011, 02:05:14 am »

Yeah - the age listings have battles in them, and you can take a look, but I recall Toady mentioning that legends mode needs some love.  If you look at those historical battles now though, you see some pretty idiotic things.  Named battles between an army of 5000 humans, against a single elf, for example.  I suspect that there are numerous in-the-works plans for historical battles - one of which i remember being mentioned was the option to look into some kind of region map and see the forces moving around, once the battle simulator is a little less stupid. 

So yes, you can look at battles now, and someday you will be able to see more. 
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3530 on: February 12, 2011, 11:35:44 am »

Toady you planned for release 2 of the current arc "Work with 3D mineral veins and mine maps" does this include 3D Stone-blobs? Like microline being more a spheric inclusion then a circle-ish sheet in the surrounding stone.
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« Reply #3531 on: February 12, 2011, 01:37:05 pm »

Toady you planned for release 2 of the current arc "Work with 3D mineral veins and mine maps" does this include 3D Stone-blobs? Like microline being more a spheric inclusion then a circle-ish sheet in the surrounding stone.
Oh good.  More microline.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3532 on: February 12, 2011, 02:25:00 pm »

Oh hell, I hope the radius of 3D clusters is shortened a bit to compensate for the extra stuff on the other levels.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3533 on: February 12, 2011, 03:53:09 pm »

Ratmen mysteriously vanished in the transition from 40d to DF 2010. Since you'll now be adding new creatures such as bees, maintaining the sameness of the creature raws between versions will no longer matter as much. Assuming the removal of ratmen was an oversight, does this mean we will see ratmen reintroduced in the next version of DF?
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3534 on: February 12, 2011, 04:40:08 pm »

Oh hell, I hope the radius of 3D clusters is shortened a bit to compensate for the extra stuff on the other levels.

I think the large cluster mechanism will be updated to have more variations, not just one big fat blob o' microcline right in the middle of every map square on every z-level. Think of a bag of marbles, not a coin stack.
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« Reply #3535 on: February 12, 2011, 06:10:52 pm »

I know, I was imagining them as sort of vaguely spherical.
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« Reply #3536 on: February 12, 2011, 08:03:58 pm »

... although I'm not sure actual geology works that way, though.  They shouldn't all be the same depth, but at the same time, layers are layers because they are created at different times through different geological methods.  A geode might form inside of a small pocket in the stone, but a total sphere doesn't seem like the sort of thing that should happen.

... I'm going to Wikipedia to look at how these things actually form, be back later...
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3537 on: February 12, 2011, 08:23:09 pm »

Atleast stuff like granit can come in blobs. Its depends on the material and how hard and plastic the material is.
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3538 on: February 12, 2011, 08:37:02 pm »

Granite is a layer.

Microcline and other feldspars are apparently formed in igneous layers just based upon having a set number of the right types of minerals forming together in one place.  They stick around in metamorphic layers just by not changing. Their formation should roughly reflect the shape of the layer they are found in.  If it came up in a volcanic vent that cooled at or near the surface, it should be a flat blob of a stratified layer.  If it cooled in a magma chamber, it should be a lining of that magma chamber, reflecting the path that the magma took to get there, so a tube and a bulb type of shape. 
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Re: Future of the Fortress: The Development Page
« Reply #3539 on: February 12, 2011, 08:43:27 pm »

these layers should be several z levels tall, though, there should be enough space in a layer for spherical clusters

wich reminds me of something...
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# Work with 3D mineral veins and mine maps
will stone layers become less... flat? i mean:
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