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Reality, The Universe and the World. Which will save us from AI?

Reality
- 13 (68.4%)
Universe
- 3 (15.8%)
The World
- 3 (15.8%)

Total Members Voted: 19


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Author Topic: What will save us from AI? Reality, the Universe or The World $ Place your bet.  (Read 24365 times)

McTraveller

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It's definitely going to be interesting, especially as it boils down to "What is the point in making a distinction of a human learning by seeing/hearing something, versus the distinction of a computer learning by seeing/hearing something"?

Note that there is no legal precedent for getting penalized for merely learning something by seeing/hearing it.  There is only penalty for exactly reproducing the thing seen/heard (e.g., by learning a song by ear, then performing it; or by typing out exactly the recollection of a book, and selling copies of it).

I'm eating my popcorn, waiting for the mess that the courts are going to make of this and the havoc it's going to wreak on the already problematic education system.
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Strongpoint

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Note that you can't put the genie back in the bottle. No matter what future laws and court decisions will come, people will finetune models on copyrighted stuff, and people will train LORAs on copyrighted stuff. Stopping them will be harder than eliminating torrent piracy.
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They ought to be pitied! They are already on a course for self-destruction! They do not need help from us. We need to redress our wounds, help our people, rebuild our cities!

Frumple

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So little Timmy gets five dollars per art piece and then 500 companies proceed to use his data for ten thousand years.
Isn't that basically what happened to Henrietta Lacks? Except without even the five bucks, ha.

Iirc there was a bit more payout to her estate/living family some years back, but gods know I don't recall the details and can't be arsed to check them.
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Strongpoint

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Er, did somebody say "copyright infringement"?

Nothing new, basically identical to New York Times v. OpenAI case. We shall wait (few years+) for the results


We have seen a case in which search engine indexing was called copyright infringement. (Perfect 10 v. Google), we also had a case of VCR producers being accused of copyright infringement ( Sony v. Universal City Studios.) Looking back, those cases seem ridiculous. They weren't back then.

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In addition, according to the suit, ChatGPT at times falsely attributes reporting to the newspapers in the answers it generates, tarnishing the reputation of the news outlets. 
This part, IMO, is more problematic for OpenAI, it goes into the trademark law and it is far less forgiving.
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They ought to be pitied! They are already on a course for self-destruction! They do not need help from us. We need to redress our wounds, help our people, rebuild our cities!

lemon10

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And with a mighty leap, the evil Conservative flies through the window, escaping our heroes once again!
Because the solution to not being able to control your dakka is MOAR DAKKA.

That's it. We've finally crossed over and become the nation of Da Orky Boyz.

Robsoie

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chatgpt is so censored nowadays that to try to get it to recreate some fictional battles from kid friendly movies without triggering  "I can't create a scenario involving violent or harmful actions" , you need some workaround
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