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Title: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Dr.Propz on February 16, 2012, 11:53:59 am
Just curious. I've been playing with giant axes so I could disarm enemies, but once I get to the point where they wear metal armor I'm screwed
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Alexwarhammer on February 16, 2012, 11:56:37 am
Well that depends what you want to use it for. A whip can easily incapacitate an unarmoured or medium armoured opponent in two turns , but an axe can chop of a limb 50% of the time , while a crossbow can one shot people tiles away.
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Post by: Meistermoxx on February 16, 2012, 12:03:27 pm
Two-handed swords are my favorite, and knives for trowing, i often one-hit people with those.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Intro1827 on February 16, 2012, 12:05:36 pm
I prefer BLUNT weapons, due to how zombies work. If you're going to reanimate a corpse, you want it to stay in one piece.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: stven275 on February 16, 2012, 12:07:20 pm
I usually go with spears and pikes, Because i find them good against armored and unarmored opponents,
and they're great at poking vital organs on pretty much anything.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: dood_ on February 16, 2012, 12:14:45 pm
Halberd. All the hacking power of an axe, with the stabbiness of a sword.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: NinjaBoot on February 16, 2012, 12:24:07 pm
Any weapon that can be multigrasped. 

Not sure, but anything multigrasped should give you more "oomph" in your swing, which'll lead to more severed lower bodyparts :)
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Montague on February 16, 2012, 12:29:43 pm
Mining picks are awesome and nigh unstoppable if made out of steel or better and of high quality.

I've tried menacing spikes and giant axe blades, but picks always seem to work out better.

I'll second that daggers are bad ass throwing weapons and I make it a point to collect any I find on my adventurers.



Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Gizogin on February 16, 2012, 12:31:34 pm
Modded weapons all the way!

Spoiler: Song Hammer (click to show/hide)

The best part is that my enemies have them too, so it's not even unbalanced!  I actually ran into a trap with one of these, but I luckily spotted it before I would have tripped it.

For vanilla weapons, I'm a big fan of the longsword.  You get slashing, stabbing, and blunt attacks rolled into one.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: GrizzlyAdamz on February 16, 2012, 12:33:47 pm
Whips are stupid op against anything with pain receptors.
Picks are the de-facto ohk/dismember/penetration weapons.
Throwing/ranged I'll ignore.

On all opponents, picks and whips beat out all other weapons by a mile.
On unarmored opponents, picks edge out whips.
As opponents become more and more armored, the whips begin gaining traction and by the time adamantine rolls around picks are outclassed by landslide.
However, whips are useless against undead/collossi.
Picks can ohk collossi.

Gimme a sec and I'll link to !SCIENCE! from last version.

-edit
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=71219.0
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Intro1827 on February 16, 2012, 12:38:22 pm
Quote from: GrizzlyAdamz on February 16, 2012, 12:33:47 pm
However, whips are useless against undead/collossi.
Colossi, yeah, there's no way to kill one with blunt attacks. I've been using hammers instead of whips, but I've been consistently OHKing zombies with a hit to any body part (the reraised corpse variety). Mummies should be able to be decapitated with blunt weapons, since I could tear off all of their limbs, but I didn't try.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: GrizzlyAdamz on February 16, 2012, 12:45:23 pm
ah, well I based what I said on fighting a mummy, and the whip just didn't cut it. /pun
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Yoink on February 16, 2012, 12:49:27 pm
Swords all the way, man.

Also: You can multigrasp weapons in the new version?! Ohmigosh, how?
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Logeres on February 16, 2012, 12:51:40 pm
Unfortunately, as far as I tried, you can't multigrasp one-handed weapons. It apparently only works with two-handed weapons
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Kamamura on February 16, 2012, 12:53:34 pm
Quote from: Yoink on February 16, 2012, 12:49:27 pm
Swords all the way, man.

Also: You can multigrasp weapons in the new version?! Ohmigosh, how?

It was possible in 31.25 too. If you carried a weapon that was too big/heavy for your size, and had both hands free, your character automatically multigrasped. I think there were heavy penalties otherwise (when trying to use shield/weapon in the other hand).
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: NinjaBoot on February 16, 2012, 12:56:02 pm
Quote from: Yoink on February 16, 2012, 12:49:27 pm
Swords all the way, man.

Also: You can multigrasp weapons in the new version?! Ohmigosh, how?

Find a 2h weapon (Lets say a iron 2h sword)

Equip 2h weapon

Drop whatever you have in your other hand

Your 2h weapon should now say (multigrasped) instead of left/right hand.

So you can now use a shield to block, then when you get close, drop your shield and hack away with a 2h weapon!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Montague on February 16, 2012, 01:14:06 pm
I've seen multigrasp before in the last version, human pikemen being the most common example.

However, from what I understand there is no bonus at all for doing this and you're better off using a shield with a 2-h sword. Or there is no penalty for using a two handed weapon with one hand.

Unless somebody can demonstrate otherwise, preferably with !!science!!. Could probably be settled in Arena Mode.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Gizogin on February 16, 2012, 01:17:56 pm
When I was reorganizing my inventory to fit all by books on life and death into various bags and things, I looked at my inventory and saw that I was multigrasping a necromancer slab.  It was pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Montague on February 16, 2012, 01:29:59 pm
Quote from: Gizogin on February 16, 2012, 01:17:56 pm
When I was reorganizing my inventory to fit all by books on life and death into various bags and things, I looked at my inventory and saw that I was multigrasping a necromancer slab.  It was pretty hilarious.

I think that would be an excellent way to impart the critical lessons of life and death to the ignorant masses.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: NinjaBoot on February 16, 2012, 03:42:17 pm
Quote from: Montague on February 16, 2012, 01:29:59 pm
Quote from: Gizogin on February 16, 2012, 01:17:56 pm
When I was reorganizing my inventory to fit all by books on life and death into various bags and things, I looked at my inventory and saw that I was multigrasping a necromancer slab.  It was pretty hilarious.

I think that would be an excellent way to impart the critical lessons of life and death to the ignorant masses.

Learning through osmosis is the best way.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Pawel1997PL on February 16, 2012, 03:52:40 pm
Currently, my favourite weapon is my iron longsword, that thing is f**** sick! I've never before had such an ammount of flying bodyparts, not even whit adamantine weapons!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: neotemplar on February 16, 2012, 10:24:13 pm
The Pick.  Above all other options.  Armor fails against it.  Limbs get severed.  Things die in droves.

*EDIT*  I correct myself, bolts and arrows are just as good, and plentiful for melee use.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Powder Miner on February 16, 2012, 11:56:17 pm
...Carving knives and whips. ...just... ... man.
Carving knives are insaaaaaaanely sharp though.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Megaman_zx on February 17, 2012, 02:26:45 am
i'm putting my vote in the iron longsword basket... it goes through limbs like butter and doesn't get stuck like the bigger, but more powerful iron two handed sword. Great axes are nice too, but they also tend to get stuck in the body.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: JJtoocool on February 17, 2012, 03:23:38 am
Long swords. Even a copper one works extremely well.

edit: Awesome, just found out how to dual wield and have a shield at the same time. Pickaxes are extremely handy secondaries.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Intro1827 on February 17, 2012, 04:17:04 am
If you have a pickaxe, you don't really need anything else.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Angel Of Death on February 17, 2012, 04:21:49 am
Human guts. They're like a +10 whip of murder.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: jackbod on February 17, 2012, 07:07:20 am
Axes severing limbs can easily incap an opponent tho I switch up for crossboes occasionly
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: evillevi on February 17, 2012, 07:59:17 am
First a question. How can A person get a Human gut?

Second my fav weapon is a shortsword. The reason I can duel with shiel to get up close and drop it(shield) to disarm opponent. For some reason it seems to be more effective than daggers for my current hero at any rate. That said this is also a !FUN! way of playing. Ps the versatility of a sword is why I use it since I can stab to stop them from moving or chop to cut off the easier limbs. Although I admit it is not the best weapon in terms of stat.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Deon on February 17, 2012, 08:07:05 am
Quote from: Montague on February 16, 2012, 01:14:06 pm
I've seen multigrasp before in the last version, human pikemen being the most common example.

However, from what I understand there is no bonus at all for doing this and you're better off using a shield with a 2-h sword. Or there is no penalty for using a two handed weapon with one hand.

Unless somebody can demonstrate otherwise, preferably with !!science!!. Could probably be settled in Arena Mode.
Toady One himself told long time ago that if a weapon is big enough for you to multigrasp, holding it in one hand reduces your chance to hit twice. There should be an old "attack formula" thread of mine where I quote him on that.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Weirdsound on February 17, 2012, 10:31:01 am
I like whips and pic-axes myself. Sucks you can't take mining at start. For throwing I like sharp rocks, they are expendable, and if your knapping is good enough (And it is easy to grind) quite effective.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: GrizzlyAdamz on February 17, 2012, 09:03:12 pm
In previous versions, with the pointlessness of amassing wealth and the abundance of fine weapons, eventually I'd be throwing around +<<+Iron Pick(s)+>>+ like balled-up pieces of paper. Gave nasty paper-cuts too.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Kamamura on March 03, 2012, 08:06:20 am
Recently, I have started to like morningstars (I start adventures as maceman), simply because morning star, it addition to bashing, does quite a lot of organ and tissue tearing (due to spikes, I presume). Plus, I don't know how they are simulated in the game, but they should have a bonus to hit. Morning star IRL is a weapon that is both difficult to control and difficult to defend against.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on March 03, 2012, 08:20:44 am
Swords, nice and tactical. Spears, hammers, axes and anything else I can find for throwing. Just splendid!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Trapezohedron on March 03, 2012, 09:36:13 am
Halberds. Stabby stab cutters they are. Whips are good too, but that's assuming you only want to dent brains and avoid dismembering corpses for reanimation.

Also, any weapon that severs a limb when thrown.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Achanei on March 03, 2012, 09:50:03 am
Dual-wielding scimitars. salami slice tactics at the beginning and vs. tougher opponents (severing arms, legs etc until its incapable of doing harm then stab for the head), with high skills headshot-stabs to one-hit pretty much everything. pretty nice vs. groups, since you can severe legs to thin out the lines and with every severed part there is one guy less running right after you. some problems vs necromancers due to the high chop-off chance, i tend to use kicking/punching vs. corpses...the collapse with one or two hits, even though my skills are not that high.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Kilroy the Grand on March 03, 2012, 09:57:10 am
Quote from: evillevi on February 17, 2012, 07:59:17 am
First a question. How can A person get a Human gut?

slash a lowerbody until guts come out, then chop at the guts until they pop off
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: imperium3 on March 03, 2012, 11:32:40 am
Swords all the way. They're hugely versatile, and besides every self-respecting medieval hero should have a sword.
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Post by: saltmummy626 on March 04, 2012, 05:44:31 am
spears, bolts, and arrows for throwing, axe for taking off trophies, and a pick for brutal murder.
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Post by: Naryar on March 04, 2012, 07:05:55 am
Picks.
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Post by: Hugeposter on March 04, 2012, 03:24:46 pm
Whips are simply brutal, they usually destroy bones on any limb they hit rendering it useless, a head shot with a whip will kill even megabeasts in one hit.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Intro1827 on March 04, 2012, 03:28:45 pm
Any decent hit to the head will kill any living thing in one hit
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Montague on June 18, 2012, 02:19:58 am
Mining picks are wonderful weapons. It also lets you devote points to something besides a weapon skill when making an adventurer.

Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Xantalos on June 18, 2012, 04:19:14 am
If possible, dual-wielding picks and morningstars, with occasional shield bashes. EhehehehEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEEE
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Hylas on June 18, 2012, 12:32:55 pm
I once had a very good experience with a masterwork adamantine giant axe blade, bisecting demons made of iron in one hit.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Kamamura on June 19, 2012, 07:25:24 am
Morning stars.
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Post by: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 09:12:57 am
I like longswords more.
Longsword in one hand, pick in the other, 20 shields over it.
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Post by: thatnewguy on June 19, 2012, 12:22:20 pm
pests. Lol, i killed about 4 guys with em.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Corai on June 19, 2012, 12:27:16 pm
+Sharp granite rock+
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Post by: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:31:48 pm
I would like to change my opinion to : bare hands
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 12:38:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:31:48 pm
I would like to change my opinion to : bare hands

You could kill anyone with a well-aimed trololol :P
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:40:08 pm
Quote from: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 12:38:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:31:48 pm
I would like to change my opinion to : bare hands

You could kill anyone with a well-aimed trololol :P

I would like to change my opinion to : bear hands
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 12:41:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:40:08 pm
Quote from: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 12:38:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:31:48 pm
I would like to change my opinion to : bare hands

You could kill anyone with a well-aimed trololol :P

I would like to change my opinion to : bear hands

Bear Grylls?

you pee the goblin in the head, tearing the skin and pushing the skull trough the brain, bruising the brain!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Corai on June 19, 2012, 12:41:42 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:40:08 pm
Quote from: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 12:38:09 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on June 19, 2012, 12:31:48 pm
I would like to change my opinion to : bare hands

You could kill anyone with a well-aimed trololol :P

I would like to change my opinion to : bear hands

The bear hand bites you in the head, shattering the skull, jamming the skull through the brain and tearing the brain!

The bear hand has been struck down x2

Loud Whispers has been struck down! <NONONONONO
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Murgy on June 20, 2012, 07:16:45 pm
Quote from: Achanei on March 03, 2012, 09:50:03 am

Dual-wielding scimitars.

Bah! Elves.  ::)
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on June 20, 2012, 07:24:26 pm
Quote from: Corai on June 19, 2012, 12:41:42 pm
The bear hand bites you in the head, shattering the skull, jamming the skull through the brain and tearing the brain!

The bear hand has been struck down x2

Loud Whispers has been struck down! <NONONONONO
If you strike my bear hands down, they shall only rise stronger than ever before!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: neotemplar on June 20, 2012, 09:17:34 pm
I find that the most brutal weapons are melee wielded arrows and bolts.  Seriously just stab away, they are almost unstoppable.

Previously I felt pick was best.  However picks are a lot harder to find in adv mode than high quality arrows and bolts.  Also cause they are so light they have little impact on speed.
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Post by: Zale on June 21, 2012, 01:07:36 am
Swords.

Curved. Swords.
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Post by: GrizzlyAdamz on June 21, 2012, 02:17:52 am
Quote from: miauw62 on June 19, 2012, 09:12:57 am
Longsword in one hand, pick in the other, 20 shields over it.
Why stop at 20?

Quote from: neotemplar on June 20, 2012, 09:17:34 pm
Also cause they are so light they have little impact on speed.
Wouldn't that also impact their ability to penetrate? Hmm, silver bolts are depleted-uranium lasers, (or were, it's been a while), so maybe not. You should try to kill a colossus and get back to us with the results.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: neotemplar on June 21, 2012, 04:35:17 pm
Arena Test with a steel bolt on colossus reveals:

It can cripple a leg in 1 hit.  But cannot sever anything.

Then again virtually all weapons fail to kill these and everyone knows to either kill them with throwing or by forcing them to dodge off cliffs so really its a useless evaluation.  And if anything the leg crippling facilitates the throwing or the running away and is thus quite helpful.

Against anything that bleeds, feels pain, or needs armor bypassed it is devastating.  Especially given that limb hits do that bone chipping thing that causes immense pain and most body shots hit organs.


Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Duuvian on June 21, 2012, 04:37:03 pm
I like maces as they are easy to train as a peasant hunting crabs.
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Post by: Meistermoxx on July 09, 2012, 04:50:36 pm
I would like to change my favorite to Urist McSpeardwarf's right upper leg.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: ShadowLop on July 10, 2012, 02:50:29 am
Quote from: Intro1827 on March 04, 2012, 03:28:45 pm
Any decent hit to the head will kill any living thing in one hit

Ettin.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Xantalos on July 10, 2012, 02:56:23 am
Quote from: ShadowLop on July 10, 2012, 02:50:29 am
Quote from: Intro1827 on March 04, 2012, 03:28:45 pm
Any decent hit to the head will kill any living thing in one hit

Ettin.
Hydra. For that matter, hydra/ettin crossbreeds. They exist somewhere, I can smell them. Also, my new favorite weapon is 'giant-ass undead army'.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Corai on July 10, 2012, 02:58:29 am
A unicorn's horn.

Either one you chop off or while playing as a unicorn.
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Post by: Buttery_Mess on July 10, 2012, 07:40:37 am
I like to mix it up in combat. Teeth are probably one of my favourite if ineffectual thrown weapons. In close combat, biting is also pretty fun. It's good to chew someone's tongue off and then throw it at them. But really, my favourite weapon is always the next silly improvised weapon.
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Post by: WellBredMutt on July 10, 2012, 08:47:01 am
Socks are strangely terrifying. Don't picks, arrows and trap components and such use misc. obj?
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Post by: Buttery_Mess on July 10, 2012, 09:12:16 am
Picks use mining. Most objects use misc object. Does anyone know off hand what skill scratching trains? Always worth training up unarmed skills, you never know when a ! will pop up.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Zale on July 10, 2012, 09:36:32 am
Sea Serpent Corpses are the best weapons.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Facekillz058 on July 10, 2012, 09:54:04 am
I think scratching trains Striker.

The best weapon, as we all know though, is a Lead Warhammer.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Joben on July 10, 2012, 10:37:51 am
On a serious note, while i realise there is a certain amount of !!science!! behind blunt weapons, probably warhammers, being the best in some number-crunchy sense, I find myself prefering swords.

When it come to lights out kills they do fine, longsword to the skull is nearly as sure a kill as hammer to the skull. Never mind breaking limbs, they take them off, and they seem to do a better job of body injury, aside perhaps from making people sick with a stomach blow. If the enemy is very tough and you cant land a CNS hit you can do the death of 1000 cuts. They'll bleed out eventually if you pierce a couple organs and generally slash them up. Marginal blunt weapon hits seem to do almost nothing, not even bleeding.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: DavionFuxa on July 10, 2012, 12:03:43 pm
All weapons serve their own niche so really it's a matter of ones play style that decides what works best-

The Regular Weapons:

Pike & Spear - Useful armor busters, can penetrate deep, and make awesome support weapons. The only real downside of the Pike and Spear is that they both fall in two different categories of weapon use. Still, they work well.

Hammer - Precision bashing best describes Hammers. Use them to get through the armored opponents and break their bones, before finishing them off with a strike through their Helmets. Mauls are also two handed so if you want to just crush something you'll have that option.

Mace - Ye old Mace vs Warhammer may favor the Warhammer but Maces include much more then just the simple Mace. Flails and Morningstars make Maces an extremely versatile weapon class; with Maces working best on unarmored opponents and Morningstars crushing armored ones, Flails coming somewhere in the middle. The only downside of the Mace user is that no mace is Two Handed.

Axe - Arm and leg choppers is what an Axe is all about. An Axe will dismember and disembowel, especially if made of good quality. There is also a lot of diversity in the type of Axe you can use, with the Greataxe being an extremely devasting Two Handed Weapon for unarmored opponents, Battle Axes being One Handed and good with Shields, and the Halberd being a little less effective but decent with the stabbing ability for those armored opponents.

Whip - The lightsabres of Dwarf Fortress, a whip will quickly incapacitate an enemy causing them to give in to pain, before a strike to the head will finish them off - with or without armor or helmets! Hammers and Maces might do this but the Whip truly focuses on doing it.

Sword - The most versatile of the weapon classes, great for slice and dice with quick sword thrust to the face! Swords shine for their ability to inflict multiple types of attacks, and coming in various sizes along with the Two Handed Sword makes them a winner for all types of strategies that use them.

The Irregular

Bow & Crossbow - While they work the same for now, the Bow and Crossbow are 2 of the 3 launches in game that players can easily access. Bow's and Crossbow's are perhaps some of the most deadly weapons, only faltering in the fact that it takes a while to reload. They can also be used in melee but if your going to do that you should pull out a different weapon. Bow's and Crossbow's are invaluable support weapons.

Knife - Don't underestimate the simple knife, Knives make for one of the lightest weapons and they can be used in a simple stabbing attack. This makes them a great secondary weapon for say Bowman or Crossbowman. It's also a fairly nice weapon for Wrestlers who want to forgo the Shield. You start with a Knife in the beginning when you make a character in adventure mode, though only Human Outsiders can naturally begin training in the skill.

Pick - Picks technically fall under the Mining skill, but they are perhaps some of the deadliest weapons in game. They tear through solid rock so it is no surprise they tear through armor. They also can lob off body parts. The real problem though is finding them.

Blowgun - Never used them but I'll note they are here. Like picks they are hard to find.

***

Personally from the list I like Swords the best, being the most versatile weapon for any situation and being available to Dwarves, Humans, and Elves for training. However this doesn't mean it's the best - the best weapon will always be the one that wins out in the specific situation, and that could really be anything.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: miauw62 on July 10, 2012, 12:32:08 pm
Mh, i like swords the best but i have heard that lightsabers or morningstars rock.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Replica on July 10, 2012, 09:09:18 pm
The speed rating is my best weapon.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: MadocComadrin on July 12, 2012, 02:50:24 am
I like longswords for their versatility, picks for their utter ability to send any part sailing off in an arc, and green glass giant serrated blades for the surprisingly good functionality and the awesome images in my head I get when I use one as a throwing weapon.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 15, 2012, 06:14:02 am
Quote from: DavionFuxa on July 10, 2012, 12:03:43 pm
The Irregular
Eagle guts
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Xantalos on July 15, 2012, 06:16:55 am
Quote from: Loud Whispers on July 15, 2012, 06:14:02 am
Quote from: DavionFuxa on July 10, 2012, 12:03:43 pm
The Irregular
Eagle guts
Severed monkey tails
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Post by: MadocComadrin on July 15, 2012, 08:18:48 am
+<<+Bronze Helm+>>+
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Post by: Helgoland on July 15, 2012, 08:57:36 am
Quote from: Xantalos on July 15, 2012, 06:16:55 am
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Quote from: DavionFuxa on July 10, 2012, 12:03:43 pm
The Irregular
Eagle guts
Severed monkey tails
Zombie heads.

Seriously, nothing better than an army of heads hopping around and biting people until they are kaputt.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: DavionFuxa on July 15, 2012, 10:15:49 am
I was tempted to add Misc. Objects but I figured it would be too difficulty to describe the broadness that the skill would encompass.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Yoink on July 15, 2012, 10:26:20 am
Late to the topic, but I like swords.
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Post by: DavionFuxa on July 15, 2012, 11:30:46 am
Welcome to Corneria!
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Post by: Xantalos on July 15, 2012, 02:52:43 pm
Actually, most adventurers could fit his description, if mixed with BM.
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Post by: Sprin on July 17, 2012, 10:17:59 am
I found a blowgun underground once near one of my old fortress never made it out to use it.
   My favorite is an axe.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA
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Post by: Fishybang on July 17, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA

They fire blowdarts.
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Post by: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:27:49 pm
Quote from: Fishybang on July 17, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA

They fire blowdarts.

So why do I never find any with the blowgunners? Or... anywhere, for that matter.
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Post by: Corai on July 17, 2012, 02:28:22 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:27:49 pm
Quote from: Fishybang on July 17, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA

They fire blowdarts.

So why do I never find any with the blowgunners? Or... anywhere, for that matter.

Only underground animalmen SOMETIMES have blowgunners.
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Post by: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:34:46 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 17, 2012, 02:28:22 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:27:49 pm
Quote from: Fishybang on July 17, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA

They fire blowdarts.

So why do I never find any with the blowgunners? Or... anywhere, for that matter.

Only underground animalmen SOMETIMES have blowgunners.

My first cavern layer always seems to have a calm little tribe of serpentmen for me to treat like native Americans in a spaghetti western. But I never find any darts on their corpses, and no dart-firing ever appears in the combat logs. Maybe it's just a historical oddity of some sort.
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Post by: Corai on July 17, 2012, 02:35:32 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:34:46 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 17, 2012, 02:28:22 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 02:27:49 pm
Quote from: Fishybang on July 17, 2012, 02:19:54 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 17, 2012, 01:57:15 pm
Now that I think about it... what the hell do blowguns fire in-game, anyway? I've seen plenty of animal-folk blowgunners in the caverns in my day, but I've never seen the ammo listed. I propose that blowguns fire either tiny pebbles or supersonic bits of hair. This theory shall stand until !!SCIENCE!! proves me wrong. TO THE ARENA

They fire blowdarts.

So why do I never find any with the blowgunners? Or... anywhere, for that matter.

Only underground animalmen SOMETIMES have blowgunners.

My first cavern layer always seems to have a calm little tribe of serpentmen for me to treat like native Americans in a spaghetti western. But I never find any darts on their corpses, and no dart-firing ever appears in the combat logs. Maybe it's just a historical oddity of some sort.
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Did they have blowgunners in the first place? If they did, then they tend to get into fights with animals. They may had used them up before you arrived.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Facekillz058 on July 17, 2012, 03:22:15 pm
The best weapon for me is my right hand, and the dagger you start with.
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Post by: Gizogin on July 17, 2012, 05:00:30 pm
Ever since I found out you could multigrasp slabs, I've made it my mission in every adventure to find one and do so.  What better way could there be to impart the secrets of life and death to the masses?

Otherwise, I prefer the longsword.  Slashing, stabbing, and bashing in one elegant package!  With about thirty shields in my other hand, I'm unstoppable!
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Post by: weedeat on July 17, 2012, 10:55:13 pm
Quote from: Replica on July 10, 2012, 09:09:18 pm
The speed rating is my best weapon.

#realtalk
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Post by: Angel Of Death on July 18, 2012, 01:55:53 am
Kobold guts. I once ditched my sword for some kobold guts. Best decision I made in that game.
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Post by: Hanslanda on July 18, 2012, 11:18:32 am
Rock block. Feel the fury of the mighty brick, evil.
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Post by: GrizzlyAdamz on July 18, 2012, 09:54:22 pm
Striking from behind.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 18, 2012, 11:01:15 pm
I prefer my modded fighting pick or longswords.

Goblins all fear the mighty human fighting pick. Most OP'd weapon ever made by me :D
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Post by: Xantalos on July 18, 2012, 11:15:16 pm
How OP'd is this mighty weapon?
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Joben on July 18, 2012, 11:48:55 pm
Quote from: Facekillz058 on July 17, 2012, 03:22:15 pm
The best weapon for me is my right hand, and the dagger you start with.
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I really like the dagger. Even better if you can track down an iron one. :)
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 19, 2012, 12:02:44 am
Quote from: Xantalos on July 18, 2012, 11:15:16 pm
How OP'd is this mighty weapon?

Silver makes for a horrible weapon.

Silver fighting picks are absolutly devestating.

Pierce: Spike
Bash: Hammerhead

No armor can stop a silver fighting pick, at least nothing goblins and humans make.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 19, 2012, 04:46:49 pm
EXCEPT THE MIGHTY -GLUMPRONG SHIELD-!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 19, 2012, 04:51:22 pm
None of them have a need for a shield when I send the spike through thier hands and break all thier ribs with the hammerhead.
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Post by: Un67 on July 19, 2012, 04:59:52 pm
The secrets of life and death  ;)
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Post by: Corai on July 19, 2012, 05:07:36 pm
Quote from: Un67 on July 19, 2012, 04:59:52 pm
The secrets of life and death  ;)

The secrets of life and death, WITH A SWORD.
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Post by: Frontestro on July 19, 2012, 05:15:00 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 19, 2012, 05:07:36 pm
Quote from: Un67 on July 19, 2012, 04:59:52 pm
The secrets of life and death  ;)

The secrets of life and death, WITH A SWORD.

With my teeth!
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Post by: DrunkenCaveOgre on July 19, 2012, 09:55:12 pm
Trees. I tend to become a psycopathic arsenist during adventure mode. At the first sign of danger I just light the nearest tree and watch everything burn
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Post by: Xantalos on July 19, 2012, 09:56:31 pm
Don't remind me of the things you can do in Dwarf Chocolate.  :-X
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Post by: Ziga on July 20, 2012, 12:21:58 pm
Quote from: Gizogin on July 17, 2012, 05:00:30 pm
Ever since I found out you could multigrasp slabs, I've made it my mission in every adventure to find one and do so.  What better way could there be to impart the secrets of life and death to the masses?


necromancer: oh i'll teach you the secrets allright, in fact i'll inprint them on your face!
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 20, 2012, 02:40:59 pm
Is it wrong I wanna find a slab with no reading skill and just beat people with a godcrafted steel slab now?
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Post by: Loud Whispers on July 20, 2012, 07:01:54 pm
Quote from: Splint on July 20, 2012, 02:40:59 pm
Is it wrong I wanna find a slab with no reading skill and just beat people with a godcrafted steel slab now?
Seems pretty normal to me
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Post by: ff2 on July 21, 2012, 09:23:50 pm
The best weapon is fluffy wambler.
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Post by: Wrex on July 21, 2012, 09:46:34 pm
Coins infected with syndromes that cause near instant death are my favorite.


Picks, lashes, and projectiles tend to be the most powerful, but every weapon in the game is lethal. Barring wooden swords....
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Post by: Corai on July 21, 2012, 10:41:30 pm
Quote from: Wrex on July 21, 2012, 09:46:34 pm
Coins infected with syndromes that cause near instant death are my favorite.


Picks, lashes, and projectiles tend to be the most powerful, but every weapon in the game is lethal. Barring wooden swords....

I played as a elven swordsman once, never dropped my wood sword. Most successful adventure EVER.
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Post by: WellBredMutt on July 21, 2012, 10:56:46 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 21, 2012, 10:41:30 pm
Quote from: Wrex on July 21, 2012, 09:46:34 pm
Coins infected with syndromes that cause near instant death are my favorite.


Picks, lashes, and projectiles tend to be the most powerful, but every weapon in the game is lethal. Barring wooden swords....

I played as a elven swordsman once, never dropped my wood sword. Most successful adventure EVER.
"...but the attack is deflected by the XXrope reed sockXX!"
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 21, 2012, 10:58:38 pm
I've grown to love my battle tables now.
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Post by: Loud Whispers on July 22, 2012, 02:14:21 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 21, 2012, 10:56:46 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 21, 2012, 10:41:30 pm
Quote from: Wrex on July 21, 2012, 09:46:34 pm
Coins infected with syndromes that cause near instant death are my favorite.


Picks, lashes, and projectiles tend to be the most powerful, but every weapon in the game is lethal. Barring wooden swords....

I played as a elven swordsman once, never dropped my wood sword. Most successful adventure EVER.
"...but the attack is deflected by the XXrope reed sockXX!"
Aim for the ears, fingers and toes. Severs like a candy sword.

"Oh yeah, you thought I was joking about the wooden sword thing did ya? BITCH PLEASE I EAT PEOPLE!" ~ Mika McElf
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Post by: Wrex on July 22, 2012, 03:28:05 pm
Quote from: Loud Whispers on July 22, 2012, 02:14:21 pm
Quote from: WellBredMutt on July 21, 2012, 10:56:46 pm
Quote from: Corai on July 21, 2012, 10:41:30 pm
Quote from: Wrex on July 21, 2012, 09:46:34 pm
Coins infected with syndromes that cause near instant death are my favorite.


Picks, lashes, and projectiles tend to be the most powerful, but every weapon in the game is lethal. Barring wooden swords....

I played as a elven swordsman once, never dropped my wood sword. Most successful adventure EVER.
"...but the attack is deflected by the XXrope reed sockXX!"
Aim for the ears, fingers and toes. Severs like a candy sword.

"Oh yeah, you thought I was joking about the wooden sword thing did ya? BITCH PLEASE I EAT PEOPLE!" ~ Mika McElf

How do you reliably hit such a small target?
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Loud Whispers on July 22, 2012, 03:36:13 pm
Quote from: Wrex on July 22, 2012, 03:28:05 pm
How do you reliably hit such a small target?
Hitting the target a few times first usually works. Even if you miss it makes the next hit easier apparently. You do have to be godly in swordselfship first though.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Mr Frog on July 23, 2012, 03:41:42 am
Books. Books. Nigh-on-weightless, available by the truckload at any necrotower, yet made of delightfully-hard substances and capable of being rapid-fired at relativistic speeds to shatter femurs (aided by a small contact area). My current adventurer's MO is machine-gunning things to death at range with an unrelenting barrage of the written word. The only bad part is cleaning them all up after.

Oh, and they make decent bludgeons in a pinch.

Language Arts just got a lot more hardcore.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Splint on July 23, 2012, 03:47:10 am
That, Mr Frog, is made of win. And I thought battle tables were bad ass.
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Post by: Xantalos on July 23, 2012, 03:48:07 am
I like this, especially when said books are bound with FIRE. How they do that, I have no idea.
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Post by: Mr Frog on July 23, 2012, 03:57:07 am
I used a sword for a bit, but eventually just put the stupid thing away and caved in skulls with a turquoise-bound book about some town I don't care about. Then I found a goshenite-bound book in my bag and so am now dual-wielding literature.

ON THE ONE HAND: I am playing a vampire. ON THE OTHER: All this carnage is with Novice thrower and Dabbling Misc. Object. I think it balances out.

@Xantalos:

...Wait, books bound with fire? That happens?

Pix. NOW. ANYONE. I don't care. I must see this.
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Post by: Xantalos on July 23, 2012, 04:11:00 am
Quote from: Mr Frog on July 23, 2012, 03:57:07 am
I used a sword for a bit, but eventually just put the stupid thing away and caved in skulls with a turquoise-bound book about some town I don't care about. Then I found a goshenite-bound book in my bag and so am now dual-wielding literature.

ON THE ONE HAND: I am playing a vampire. ON THE OTHER: All this carnage is with Novice thrower and Dabbling Misc. Object. I think it balances out.

@Xantalos:

...Wait, books bound with fire? That happens?

Pix. NOW. ANYONE. I don't care. I must see this.
Dwarf Chocolate. How would I provide pics? Might take a bit, but I'll try to find one.
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Post by: Mr Frog on July 23, 2012, 04:16:40 am
Alt + Print Screen, paste into Paint, upload to Internets, amuse Froggy briefly.

!E: Oh, is this an intentional part of some mod? That's not as fun :( It was better when I thought it was just the material picker thing being screwy.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Xantalos on July 23, 2012, 04:23:33 am
Maybe just the thing being screwy. I'll check.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: Slayerhero90 on July 23, 2012, 09:23:35 am
Rifles are the best.
"The flying musket ball hits the goblin swordsman in the left upper leg, tearing the muscle and shattering the bone!"
"The goblin swordsman gives in to pain!"
"You stab the goblin swordsman in the head with the bayonette of your rifle, tearing the muscle, fracturing the skull, jamming the skull through the brain and tearin the brain!"
"Goblin swordsman has been struck down!"
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Post by: Loud Whispers on July 23, 2012, 10:03:30 am
Quote from: Slayerhero90 on July 23, 2012, 09:23:35 am
Rifles are the best.
"The flying musket ball hits the goblin swordsman in the left upper leg, tearing the muscle and shattering the bone!"
"The goblin swordsman gives in to pain!"
"You stab the goblin swordsman in the head with the bayonette of your rifle, tearing the muscle, fracturing the skull, jamming the skull through the brain and tearin the brain!"
"Goblin swordsman has been struck down!"
Crossbows are more retro.
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Post by: Hanslanda on July 23, 2012, 01:50:45 pm
Quote from: Mr Frog on July 23, 2012, 03:57:07 am
I used a sword for a bit, but eventually just put the stupid thing away and caved in skulls with a turquoise-bound book about some town I don't care about. Then I found a goshenite-bound book in my bag and so am now dual-wielding literature.

ON THE ONE HAND: I am playing a vampire. ON THE OTHER: All this carnage is with Novice thrower and Dabbling Misc. Object. I think it balances out.

@Xantalos:

...Wait, books bound with fire? That happens?

Pix. NOW. ANYONE. I don't care. I must see this.


Mr Frog: Bringing knowledge to the ignorant, the best way around. Physically imprinting it directly on their brainstem.
Title: Re: What do you think is the best weapon?
Post by: coldmonkey on July 23, 2012, 02:42:20 pm
The best weapon is a mouth. No sword, whip or handful of liquid can measure up to the glory that is biting a Bogeyman in its head and shake its head off, and then spitting it so hard at the next night creature's head that it too dies.