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Title: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - FINISHED
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 04, 2012, 11:04:36 am

Round Seven-and-a-half begins in this thread on page 16 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103575.msg3121982#new)

Round Seven kinda fizzled out after Deadmeatgate, so we're restarting the whole thing.

If somebody password-protects his/her pretender this time, I'll personally find out where you live and send you a whiny postcard that will make you feel really sorry! 

The current setup:
Number of players: 6
Turn time limit: 24h
Era: Late Age
Mod: CBM 1.92 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47741&highlight=conceptual+balance)
Map: Realm of the Rampaging Roaches (http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~elmokki/rampagingroaches.zip)
Victory conditions: standard
Other options: hall of fame = 15; renaming allowed; independents' strength = 6;

Game page on llamaserver: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12Round7andaHalf

Players:

Karlito - Mictlan, Blood and Rain
Robespierre - R'lyeh, Dreamlands
TempAcc - Ulm, Black Forest
Boksi - Patala, Reign of the Nagas
Lorak - Midgård, Age of Men
SimmuraMcCrea - Man, Towers of Chelms

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The Independents issues:

Spoiler: Late Winter 01 (click to show/hide)

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Spoiler: Late Spring 03 (click to show/hide)

edit: image lost

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Previous rounds: 1 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44348.msg849721#msg849721), 2 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=46012.msg908706#msg908706), 3 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=60235.msg1357467#msg1357467), 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63361.0), 5 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65222.0), 6 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72919.msg1797235#msg1797235)

(Info spoilered for length)

Spoiler: What is Dominions 3? (click to show/hide)

Dominions 3 is a (surprise!) third installment of a fantasy turn-based strategy games series.
It's main features are immense complexity, simultainous turn resolution, and myriads of customisation options.

The players assume roles of pretender gods, fighting to take up the throne of Pantokrator(or All-Ruler).

Each pretender god leads one of dozens different nation, based on various mythological concepts: there are Jotun giants and Vans from Norse myths, ape-like demons of Lanka, Hellenic Arcoscephale, merpeople of Atlantis, cthulhu myths-based Ry'leh, Hebrew Ashdod, and many more.

Pretenders are designed based on one of the preselected chassis, like the Manticore, a Dragon, lich, stone monolith, or titan. Their dominion's influence can be adjusted to create e.g.peaceful, warm and magical lands under their rule.

There is a very robust magic system, with literally hundreds of spells, ranging from in-battle lightening bolts to world altering doom bringers.

Every unit in the sometimes hundreds-strong armies has individual stats, including age, battle wounds and experience.

Commanders, mages, heroes, priests, magical beasts and pretender gods can be equipped with magical items and sent to battle personally, assasinate or seduce enemy commanders, spy and instigate unrest, cast supporting or combat spells, or left at home and work on improving magical knowledge, build fortifications, summon magic beings, raise undead, forge items, hunt for blood slaves, preach god's influence, patrol provinces, search for magic sites in the wild and more.

Battles are resolved automatically, according to the preselected orders for troop formations and commanders.
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-njmZd2b4)'s a youtube video of a large-ish battle to pique your interest. Courtesy of Lorak.

All of you curious people can go and visit the website (http://www.dominions3.com/) for more info. You'll notice that the price tag is seriously hefty, but as many of us players can attest, the game is well worth it.

Spoiler: How does MP work? (click to show/hide)

First of all, you need to download the map and the CBM 1.92 mod(links above), and put the files into the map and mod folders of your dom3 installation respectively. Then go to the options menu and enable the mod. Next use the pretender creation tool in the game tools menu to create a pretender and send the file(to be found in your /dominions3/savedgames/newlords; named <your_nation_era_number.2h>, where number is most likely "0" if it's the only pretender you've created so far for this nation.) to "pretenders [at ] llamaserver [dot ] net" with the game name as the subject.
Game name is "Bay12Round7andaHalf".

You'll be recieiving .trn files from llama server, which you shoud put into a {dom3dir}/savedgames/{whatevernameyouwant}/
After finishing your moves, a new .2h file will appear in that folder, which you should send to the same address from which you've recieved your .trn file.

Regarding the rules of conduct:
- no exploits please. Examples of exploits are siegeing a fort infinitely with a string of scouts; sending other players crap items to fill their magic item pool and make them waste gems; anything else you can think of that doesn't feel like it was meant to be a feature. If not sure, ask.
- trade agreements are sacred. Once you decided to exchange some gems/items/gold, you MUST fulfill your side of the agreement.
- no constrains on diplomacy. You can attack anyone you want, with or without warning. It would be, however, in good taste not to rush another player at the very begining of the game. We're all trying to have a good time playing this.
- use forum PMs for diplomacy. The in-game messaging system is seriously flawed(unacceptably slow, and parts of messages tend to dissapear)
- if you want to boast/moan about your progress(or lack thereof) in game, feel free to use this thread to post your screenshots, stories and whatnot.

Useful links:
The wiki (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Main_Page), with loads of useful information, including strategy guides. Keep in mind that as a unit/spell/item reference it is in many ways not compatibile with the mod we're using.

Llama Server (http://www.llamaserver.net/), which is the automatic hosting server for our game.
Llama Server's map and mod browser (http://www.llamaserver.net/mapModBrowser.cgi)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Karlito on March 04, 2012, 01:13:23 pm

I've been itching to get some Dominions 3 multiplayer going, and there are never enough open games on the Shrapnel forums, especially for a MP n00b like me. So yeah, I'm down for this, and should be good for a turn/day at least until the end of May when the summer term starts (not too sure of my plans then).

My first preference would be Late Age Mictlan.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Robespierre on March 04, 2012, 01:22:56 pm

Hi.
Count me in. I prefer LA R'lyeh.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 04, 2012, 03:30:08 pm

Hooo... wow. That sounds like a good setup, I'm just not sure about my ability to do a turn a day. I'll think about it though and I'll look into the LA civs to get myself back in the Dom3 mindset. If you end up needing one more player and I'm not around, give me a PM.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 04, 2012, 04:00:49 pm

Would the game be vanilla or one of the CBMs?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 04, 2012, 04:14:23 pm

Definitely CBM. The latest version is 1.92 available from here (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47741&highlight=conceptual+balance).
There's a lot of rebalancing in this one. Some new spells and related summons have been added, items have been tweaked(there's a new forging reference included in the files) and some nations play very differently now. I've only seen a bit of the changes, but I liked what I saw. If nothing else, it'll breathe some new life into the game.

ed:typo

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: TempAcc on March 04, 2012, 09:17:25 pm

I love dominions 3 but never really had many oportunies to play it with other people, which is sad since this game has tons of fun potential in multiplayer. Count me in if i can find my key again :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 04, 2012, 09:44:52 pm

Def count me in!

Utgard for me!
LA is fine.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 04, 2012, 10:57:40 pm

Hahahahahahaha oh man... I wanted to look and see what the differences were between CBM 1.92 and vanilla were (expecting a very large list, but willing to at least skim through it) and got this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Changelog for Conceptual Balance Mod version 1.9.

Short version:

- Huge review of items, with the intention of making every item have at least a niche use. Quite a few items recosted (generally downwards in view of the hammer change), others given boosts or even new effects in a few cases. Two-handed weapons are much better. Item descriptions have been updated - there should be no non-obvious changes.
- A PDF Forging Reference is included with the mod - this was a bit of a monster to create, but hopefully will prove useful. This may be worth printing out - I have tried to choose colours so that it will be comprehensible even in black and white. The reference is based on a previous document by Cleveland - thanks Cleveland!
- Boosts to a number of weak nations. EA & MA Agartha, MA Ulm, MA Man, EA Vanheim and EA Helheim in particular benefitted. Other nations to receive some changes include Marverni, Tir na n'Og and Eriu. Great effort has been put in to make the changes interesting and thematic. For example with MA Agartha the challenge was to increase the power of the nation while maintaining the overall theme of sorrow and loss. Hopefully this has been successful.
- Full incorporation of Burnsaber's Underwater Gameplay Improvement Mod. Hopefully interactions between land and water nations should be much more interesting. The water nations also receive some new content. Playing Oceania or MA Atlantis should no longer feel so frustrating.
- "Unfun" spells, e.g. Burden of Time and Arcane Nexus, made harder to cast or more expensive
- Small scales tweaks - Production a little better, Order a little less good
- A large number of miscellaneous changes - see the full changelog for details. For example Storm Demons can no longer throw lightning underwater, Tartarians can be Gift of Reasoned again (via a new spell, Restore Soul), Tarrasques and Treelords are better, and some of the most powerful EDM summons got slightly more expensive.
- A lot of bug hunting and miscellaneous fixes.
- Thanks to quantum_mechani for comments and of course having done the huge majority of this mod, Sombre and kianduatha for contributing some code, Larz for his dom3editor which helped with bug hunting, and above all lots of you for the huge number of helpful comments I went through in preparing this update.


Long version:

Miscellaneous changes:
- Fixed innumerable typos with the help of Larz's fantastic dom3editor - thanks Larz!
- Incorporated kianduatha's animals mod (thanks kianduatha!). Provides minor buffs to most animals.
- Asynja, Shishis, Grendelkin and Zmey all got a slight cost increase (actually 5 gems in each case).
- Tarrasques are commanders, with proper slots (head and two miscs).
- Treelords got better again. They now each have thematic domsummons, and 4 misc slots.
- Storm demons' lightning attack is can now be countered by air shield / arrow fend and doesn't work underwater (Storm Demons' massive dominance underwater seemed highly unthematic)
- Thrown boulders now do a small amount of strength-dependent AOE 1 damage from the earth thrown up on impact.
- Although Jotuns have special large weapons, some other giant nations didn't. Added "Giant Spear" weapon to address this (affects Hinnom/Ashdod/Gath, Agartha and some pretenders)
- Soulless priest fix: When priests are turned into Soulless by Life After Death they lose all priest levels, but keep all magic levels.
- Kithaironic Lions are no longer commanders but are somewhat buffed; they now cause fear
- Mummy max age greatly increased, so Ritual of Rebirth does not inflict old age on long-lived heroes
- Small elementals got old at lower ages, meaning that as elementals were damaged they often suffered severe old age. Fixed!
- C'tis sacred serpents got mapmove 2.

Magic sites:
- Using new site modding commands, the extreme cost-reduction sites have been toned down. Those previously removed (e.g. Summoning Circle) have been reintroduced, but greatly reduced in power (Summ
oning Circle gives 30% rather than 60% discount).
- Whispering Woods fixed.

Tartarians:
- New spell added, "Restore Soul". As the old Gift of Reason, but only works on undead. Thaumaturgy 5.
- All Tartarians' Shattered Soul reduced to 20%.

Scales:
- Order income bonus reduced to 6% (was 7%)
- Production income bonus increased to 4% (was 3%)
- Growth income bonus reduced to 2% (was 3%), but pop growth rate increased to 0.3% (was 0.2%)

Sprites:
- A few of the least controversial sprites from the Community Sprite Update mod incorporated.

Items:
- Stats of many weapons changed (almost always buffed) - please check them! Mostly the effect is to make useless weapons non-useless.
- Fire Sword has fire effect
- Ice Sword has freeze effect
- Shadow Brand's Leeching Darkness looks more darknessy
- Fire Bola binds people with AOE 1 (x2 for two bolas)
- Hunter's Knife got much improved attack - now a decent assassin weapon
- Smasher is E1 rather than E2
- Morning stars have less crazy stats (had anomalously high attack)
- Description changes to many items to reflect effects added in this and previous versions of CBM (who knew that Chi Shoes caused Curse Luck?)
- Vine Whip can now be avoided by high defense
- Two-handed weapons do MUCH more damage
- Lightning spear has a nice lightning effect with graphics
- Thunder Bow now fires something more like a Thunder Strike than a Lightning Bolt
- Evening Star's weakness effect tripled (-6 str per hit)
- Dusk Dagger restored to 5D5S, but now has a nasty "Bleeding" damage over time effect
- The Sharpest Tooth may now paralyze victims in addition to its vicious poison (doesn't work if poison immune)
- All 1-handed spears and lances get a charge bonus for first strike (so give that Knight a Lightning Spear!)
- Medallion of Vengeance now contains a vengeful fire spirit which will produce one large explosion per battle, in addition to the explosion on death.
- Ring of Warning whispers to the bearer about incoming arrows and blows, giving them a chance to dodge (acts as a parry 4 shield)
- Owl Quill gives -2 enc (though like other negative encumbrance items, doesn't help cavalry!)
- Bracers of Protection better (+3/+3 def/prot; was +2/+2)
- Astral Serpent is back to 5N5S, but has an unresistable brief paralyze effect on hit. Can be avoided by high def.
- A few cost increases compared to CB1.84; stone idol is 5E5S, pocket ship is 10N5A, unquenched sword is F4, and infernal sword is B3F1
- A number of artifacts made cheaper to forge, including the Flying Ship, Gate Stone, Nethgul, Horror Harmonica, Carcator, the Ankh, Amon Hotep, Tartarians Chains, Summit, Jade Mask and Horror Harmonica
- Boots of Long Strides give a def bonus and a single-use "Charge" attack, effective against smaller opponents
- Weightless shields reduced to 5A (were 10)
- Black Laurels reduced to 5D (were 10)
- Wraith Crown reduced to 15D (from 25)
- Miscellaneous changes to armor stats
- Silver Hauberk is const 4
- Robe of Shadows, Stymphalian Wings, Robe of Invulnerability, Jade Armor and Bone Armor all cheaper to forge
- Green Dragon Scale Mail offers slightly better protection than Red or Blue
- Weightless Scale Mail renamed to Feather Scale, given new description to explain negative encumbrance

Incorporated the remainder of Burnsaber's Underwater Gameplay Improvement Mod (was already partially incorporated):
- MANY summon spells and combat spells now work underwater
- Many units gained Poor Amphibian; essentially anything that doesn't need to breathe
- Improved underwater pretenders
- EA and MA underwater nations have 300 gold temples to mitigate against common dominion problems
- Two new (W2/A2) spells that can partly negate UW breathing item penalties
- New summon "Awaken Kelp Ancient" that basically gives you "free" immobile "PD" commander underwater.
- "Living castle" now only reguires nature magic and is cheaper. It can now only be cast from land.
- Vine Men/Ogres & Kings transform into Kelp equivalents if they move underwater, making them amphibious.
- Some uncommon UW indy mage sites and other sites added to slightly balance gem income underwater.
- Some common coastal sites added that give access to good underwater units.
- "Summon Sea Dogs" now reguires W1
- Thetis' Blessing down to ench 7
- "Boil" now reguires just F2
- National changes, listed in their separate sections

Spell changes:
- Arcane Nexus costs more gems
- Burden of Time higher research, requires a more powerful Death mage
- Rain of Stones slightly higher research, gem cost increased to 2
- Astral Corruption slightly higher research, much higher cost (it's only slaves after all)
- Second Sun research level decreased to 6 (was
- Dispel slightly cheaper at 25 gems
- Shimmering Fields has lower path requirement, lower gem cost and longer range, but is research level 9 (was 7)
- Breath of the Dragon damage increased
- Awaken Vine Men gives more vine men to more powerful mages
- Bind Bone Fiends cost increased to 5 slaves (was 3!)
- Curse of Blood cost increased to 99 slaves (was 66)
- Summon Dakini cost increased to 100 slaves (was 75)
- Contact Tlahuelpuchi cost increased to 35 slaves (was 25)
- Sanguine Heritage cost increased to 66 slaves (was 44)
- My impression is that more Blood cost increases are needed - feedback gratefully received

Holy spells:
- Smite got a small range increase
- Smite Demon got a significant damage increase, and is even more effective for H3 priests
- Word of Power is now AOE 1 (rather than single target as before)

Pretenders:
- Most pretender effort being postponed till 1.91 or later
- Oracles and analogues (Sacred Statue, Monolith, Sphinx and Fountain of Blood) got cost increases
- Dragons of all kinds got 3 misc slots, and living dragons got enc reduced to 2 (from 3)
- Ageless Olm description altered to indicate Olm Spawn domsummon.
- Oddly, Forge Lord had no attack sprite. Made one.

MA Ulm:
- The main thrust has been to make their equipment and troops actually good
- All Ulmish troops and commanders got encumbrance 2 - this actually fits very nicely with their descriptions
- All Ulmish troops got att 11 and mor 11
- Black Plate troops are now explicitly elites - got gcost 11, att 12 and def 11
- Added Black Steel Chain Mail (alluded to in current descriptions) - lightness gives reduced defense penalty
- Lightness of Full Plate of Ulm gives reduced encumbrance
- Added Ulmish Tower Shields - lightness gives reduced encumbrance
- Black Knights got slightly higher resource cost
- "The Forges of Ulm" now gives 50 resources
- Smith air/fire/astral random increased to 20%
- The AI will no longer cast Tempering the Will
- Black Priests are now drain immune
- New battlefield spells for the priests of the Iron Cult

EA Ulm:
- Also got enc 2 (they are the same race after all)
- All troops got mapmove 2. These are ridiculously hardy Conan-like barbarians. They should be able to cover some ground, even in armour.

LA Ulm:
- Also got enc 2 (they are the same race after all)

MA Man:
- Removed militia and slingers from recruitables, since as far as I can tell they are left over from dom1.
- New sprite for light cavalry, so he fits in
- New unit: Woodsman
- New commander: Knight Commander of Avalon
- Replaced militia with woodsman in PD, tweaked numbers. Can't get rid of slingers.
- Knights, Knights of Avalon cheaper
- Bards slightly cheaper
- Daughters of Avalon are now healers - they have a niche!
- Witches all got animal awe, just for thematic fun
- New spell: Hex
- New spell: Wrath of Avalon
- New spell: Forest of the Ever Young

LA Man:
- PD oddly consisted of units not available to LA Man. Fixed - although *very* mysteriously they still get slingers which I can't get rid of.
- Gem income from Forest of Avalon reduced to 1N (the curse!). New start site added: The Towers of Chelms, which produces 2A and 1E gems. Net effect: lost 1 N gem, gained 1 E gem.

EA Tir na n'Og:
- Ri lost Awe, but traded one point of Nature magic for an Earth pick
- Ri also gained slight stat improvements, so that he is generally slightly better than the Sidhe Lord
- Bean Sidhe and Tuatha Sorceress gained forge bonus of 15%
- Cost reduction for Tuatha warrior (50 -> 40)

EA Vanheim:
- Moderate gold cost cuts across the board, including commanders
- Vanjarls and Vanadrotts got 50% blood random
- Dwarven smith got 25% forge bonus, cost increased to 220 (from 180)
- Fay Boars reduced upkeep

MA Vanheim:
- Share many benefits from EA Vanheim
- Gold cost cuts for Van and Valkyrie
- Van enc was accidentally 2; fixed (to 3)

EA Helheim:
- Moderate gold cost cuts across the board
- Vanjarls got 50% blood random
- Svartalf got 25% forge bonus, cost increased to 220 (from 180)

EA Marverni:
- Most bare-chested warriors cheaper
- Boar Warriors recruit-everywhere
- Horn Blower gained javelins, and new Carnute Horn Blower unit added (without javelins); should make it much easier to keep the horn blowers with their units
- Stampede spell now research level 0
- Strength of Boars H3 spell now affects all friendlies (not just sacreds)

MA Ashdod:
- Objective: No change to power level but make non-sacreds more viable
- All non-sacred giants got +1 att, +1 def and decreases to gold cost (typically ~10). Gileadite archers got -15 gcost and +1 precision.
- Anakite armor +1 enc.
- Banquet for the Dead now D3H1 (rather than D4H1), so castable by some Zamzummites

EA & MA Agartha:
- All pale ones have ~20% more hitpoints, ~15% more strength and slightly better protection.
- New ritual: Shape the Earth
- Benefit from new boulder splash damage
- Earth Readers given 5% chance to avoid bad events purely to go with their descriptions

EA Agartha:
- New unit: Pale One with trident and net
- New ritual: Earth Communion
- Barathrus Pact gives a larger elemental
- New battle spell: Fury of the Doomed
- New ritual: Open the Seal

MA Agartha:
- New unit: Pale One with trident and net
- New unit: Pale One with glaive
- Golem Crafters mapmove 2
- Earth Reader and Golem Crafters both slightly younger
- New mage priest: Keeper of Memories
- Oracle of the Ancients got slightly improved randoms
- Production bonus of 25% - this is the era when they still dwell in the deepest and richest parts of the earth, but have begun to become focussed on armour.
- No longer get Darkness via PD, but can summon a darkness-generating statue
- New ritual: Avatar of Darkness
- New ritual: Wisdom of the Ancients
- New ritual: Caveman Tribe
- New battle spell: Army of Statues (a buff, not a summon spell)
- New battle spell: Fury of Loss

MA Machaka:
- Province defense improved (now includes archers and warriors with shields)
- Descriptions improved for cheap troops. They are still short, but look a little less unfinished.
- Cost of archers reduced to 9 gold (was 10). They are inferior to indy archers, so it is nice to have some incentive to recruit them.

MA Eriu:
- Bean Sidhe are now recruit anywhere and got 15% forge bonus
- Tuatha lost awe, but gained E1 and minor stat bonuses (so as to be slightly better than the Sidhe Lord)

LA Patala:
- Nagas gained awe.

LA Agartha:
- Blindlords anomalously had worse stats than blindfighters; fixed.

Yomi/Shinuyama/Jomon:
- Removed national hp nerf (standard Jomonese had hp 9, which was widely disliked)
- Fixed inconsistency in kami encumbrance (all now have enc 0, by analogy to elementals)

Mictlan (all ages):
- Tribal King lost javelin - it tempted him too often into suicide. Javelin removed from sprite too.

EA Oceania:
- 5 new heroes
- Two new summons, Sirens and Selkies
- Sirens have more powerful magic
- Knights of the Deep got +1 enc, -1 def, +5 resource cost and are now cap only. 
- One high end national combat spell
- Description changes to add flavour
- Triton Kings got more diverse picks
- New pretender choice (Draikana)

EA R'lyeh:
- All Aboleths amphibious
- Mind Lords got more diverse picks
- Aboleths got a extra 10% random
- Mind Lords and Aboleths got a "tentacle" attack, to prevent unthematic "autoloss" to even weak undead units in melee
- Mind Lords got two "Enslave Mind" attacks
- 1 new multihero

EA Atlantis:
- New national spell to get incresed mr on some troops
- Reduced encumbrance on basalt armor and coral hauberk
- 1 new hero

MA OCEANIA:
- 3 new heroes
- Capricorns can now bring followers underwater, like in vanilla
- New national summon
- Sirens have more powerful magic
- Myrmidons cheaper (20 -> 15)

MA Atlantis
- Improved infantry
- Improved coral armour, in particular reducing encumbrance
- Kings got more diverse picks
- Initiates of the Deep no longer cap-only

MA R'lyeh
- Slighty improved coastal recruits

And... oh sh- it's actually readable! Ok, so the reason I laughed was because it looks like this in notepad:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/bluerobin427/folders/Jing/media/86ac9705-04d6-4fb1-8729-e6a95704d562/2012-03-04_2255.png)

I'm going to leave the readable version in the spoiler here because that way it's in a format I can read. :P

But yeah, I'm thinking I might be up for joining in. Going to make really sure before I commit because I don't want to be the one to leave, but I THINK I'll be able to join. (dibs on LA Atlantis)

Edit: Oh so, I realized I meant to ask if there was a comprehensive list of CBM changes anywhere. The list above is just the changes from 1.8x to 1.9 as far as I can tell, does anyone have a full list? I know there are big things like the dwarven hammer and gem gens being unique.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 09:44:02 am

Quote from: Bluerobin

Oh so, I realized I meant to ask if there was a comprehensive list of CBM changes anywhere. The list above is just the changes from 1.8x to 1.9 as far as I can tell, does anyone have a full list? I know there are big things like the dwarven hammer and gem gens being unique.

Unfortunately, it appears that you'd have to find each of the previous mods and check their changelogs.
At least I couldn't find any comprehensive list out there.
Myself, I'm fine with getting somewhat surprised from time to time.

Also, @Bluerobin and @TempAcc: keep in mind that we only need 2 more players, and should anybody else show up before you make up your mind, I'll give the spots to them.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Neonivek on March 05, 2012, 09:52:07 am

I'll be looking forward to this.

Everytime I watch a Letsplay of this game (I know this isn't a Letsplay, but I assume I'll see updates) it tends to fall appart in the end as people start leaving on mass.

Wish I could play too (I even know what faction I'd chose) even if I know I'll just be uttarly destroyed.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 10:09:35 am

Ok, I'm going to jump on this. Either Bogarus or Atlantis, depending on what we end up needing. Leaning more towards Bogarus at this point... Yup, choosing Bogarus!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Delta Foxtrot on March 05, 2012, 11:16:08 am

Any plans for someone(s) making a sort of LP/AAR fare as the game progresses? Game itself seems interesting enough and the multiplayer aspect adds to that.

I don't own D3 so obviously not participating.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 11:29:13 am

I kind of want to, but I'm not really sure about the best way to go about it. There are a lot of things to consider, from what kind of delay to put on AAR updates to how unfair it is to only have one person's perspective shown. Ideally I think we'd have an LP god descend upon us, send them our turns, have them go through them and release a delayed AAR of the game as a whole with world map updates like that one thread on somethingawful that was great until I couldn't access it anymore.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 11:33:58 am

I'm thinking maybe we could include some sort of news reels.

Such as; BIG BATTLE IN SHTTURD PROVINCE, THE GOD BLUEROBIN GOT TOTALLY MASHED BY A MIDGET

At the very least.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 12:41:54 pm

Found my key, going to install and update dom 3 to 3.27 later today. I'm def in if there's still spots left. I'll decide my nation once I know which age we're playing on.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 12:43:51 pm

Quote from: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 11:33:58 am

Such as; BIG BATTLE IN SHTTURD PROVINCE, THE GOD BLUEROBIN GOT TOTALLY MASHED BY A MIDGET

Now I'm scared that's forecasting what happens. If I end up having an awake SC pretender that dies on turn 1 trying to take a province I'm blaming you.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Neonivek on March 05, 2012, 12:54:29 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 12:43:51 pm

Quote from: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 11:33:58 am

Such as; BIG BATTLE IN SHTTURD PROVINCE, THE GOD BLUEROBIN GOT TOTALLY MASHED BY A MIDGET

Now I'm scared that's forecasting what happens. If I end up having an awake SC pretender that dies on turn 1 trying to take a province I'm blaming you.

That is why you fear divination

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: Robespierre on March 05, 2012, 01:55:55 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 12:41:54 pm

I'll decide my nation once I know which age we're playing on.

It's seems to be Late Age.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Interest check.
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 02:02:29 pm

Then I might go crazy and play LA Atlantis :P, not an entirely powerful nation but one with its own fun quirks. Maybe late age c'tis or ulm, though the blood magic price changes might keep me away from blood magic nations, and I never figured out how to use sabbath master~slave properly, soooo.
But yea, LA atlantis will be my thing.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 02:34:44 pm

O.K. I've put some info regarding the whole multiplayer procedure in the first post, as well as some links to useful sites.

Now, before I put the game on the llamaserver, we need to agree on a map and any additional options we might want to use.

The map shouldn't be larger than 15 provinces per player(so ~90ish here). Due to the nations chosen, it should also include some water provinces.

Other options to consider:
-what victory conditions will we use, if any?
-any changes to the default research/income/site frequency?


Oh, and I think I'll try my luck with Patala.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Boksi on March 05, 2012, 02:36:05 pm

I want to play this. As LA Patala, if Il Palazzo doesn't mind. And I've never played multiplayer before.

Is this crazy? Y/Y

Don't worry though, I've got some idea of how to play this. Sticks and stones will definitely break your bones when there's hundreds of them being hurled at you by magically-boosted monkeys and you're not wearing any armor. And if I fail horribly, hey, it'll be a learning experience. I definitely have the time, at least.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 02:41:59 pm

Hmm, now that I know I'm not Atlantis, I vote for a map that has no water whatsoever so I don't have to worry as much about R'lyeh. <_< >_>

Do we want one with fixed starts so people are well spaced out? Aran doesn't have fixed starts, but maybe anyway? Although 11 water provinces might not be enough and it has almost 20 provinces per player... Bah, I'm so out of the Dom3 loop.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 02:50:52 pm

Psh, I haven't played in months, and I only played a few joke multiplayer games with a few players, so I'm pretty out of the loop as well :P

Are we going for a wraparound map? I've noticed that despite having large provinces they usualy feel small, but non wraparound maps tend  to put players who start in the middle of the map in disvantage compared to players who start on the edges and thus have less borders to worry about overall.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 02:59:02 pm

Yeah as much as I hate the feeling of always being surrounded in a wraparound map, it's much more fair than being the player(s) who start in the middle of a non-wraparound one. I can't seem to find many (on the llamaserver map list at least) that are fewer than about 110-120 provinces that have room for underwater nations, though. I guess we could always gen one?

Edit: Streamlands might be good. I'm not sure if it has independents, though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 03:12:51 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 05, 2012, 02:36:05 pm

I want to play this. As LA Patala, if Il Palazzo doesn't mind. And I've never played multiplayer before.

Is this crazy? Y/Y

Well, actually, Palazzo is against. Sorry. I'm rather adamant this time about keeping the six player limit, so that I may see how it works with regard to keeping the game afloat.
Normally I wouldn't mind stepping down in your favour, but I've been meaning to play a proper game against Robespierre for some time now, so... not this time.

Re: the map.
This one looks nice:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8947&d=1254758338)

Download link (http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~elmokki/streamlands.zip)
It's a wraparound with 93 land + 10 sea provinces. I'm not sure if it's enough water, seeing how we've got R'lyeh and two land nations with amphibious capability. Might get crowded in there fast. You guys would have to decide.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 03:16:02 pm

Oh good, you know who Robespierre is. For a little bit I was afraid we has some random Lunatic joining in. :P

And yeah, that's the same map I ended up finding. I had the same concerns as you, plus the "unsure about independents" one.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Boksi on March 05, 2012, 03:20:21 pm

I'll just play some single player then...

_{forever alone...}

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 03:22:15 pm

map looks good, lol poor boksi, i'm renaming one of my giants to Boksi in compensation  :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 03:24:28 pm

Haha I might name something after Boksi too... we could track the progress of our Boksis. :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Robespierre on March 05, 2012, 03:28:34 pm

I'm new in MP games but Parganos (116 + 19 sea provinces) looks fine for me.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Boksi on March 05, 2012, 03:34:44 pm

Quote from: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 03:22:15 pm

map looks good, lol poor boksi, i'm renaming one of my giants to Boksi in compensation  :P

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 03:24:28 pm

Haha I might name something after Boksi too... we could track the progress of our Boksis. :P

I look forward to tales of my glorious exploits.

Or dying ingloriously to a stray arrow in my first battle, that'd be fine too.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 03:35:50 pm

Parganos is more than 20 provinces each which is a bit high in general, but I'm a fan of bigger maps so I'd be good with that.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 03:47:49 pm

Parganos... that's not a wraparound, is it? Also kinda on the large side. But I'd be willing to agree, if others do too.

There's always Bering, I guess:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://forum.shrapnelgames.com//attachment.php?attachmentid=6416&d=1215263919)

Although 21 sea provinces might be too generous for some.


I'll make a poll for everybody to voice their opinios. You'll get as many votes as there are maps to chose from, and the first one that gets six votes wins.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Karlito on March 05, 2012, 03:50:33 pm

The Desert Eye is wraparound and slightly smaller than Paraganos. It's still on the large side, but probably the better choice of the two.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(108 land + 17 sea)(http://www.llamaserver.net/mapThumbs/eye.png)

EDIT: I'll post other wraparound maps as I find them.

Mines and Farms (105 land + 16 sea)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://www.llamaserver.net/mapThumbs/minesfarms.png)

Land of Ethereal Squirrels (103 land + 13 sea)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://www.llamaserver.net/mapThumbs/LandOfEtherealSquirrels.png)

Realm of Rampaging Roaches (78 land + 10 sea)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://www.llamaserver.net/mapThumbs/rampagingroaches.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 03:54:39 pm

I like the desert eye, but I'm going with streamlands since it seems to be the most balanced. Bering might give r'lyeh and myself a very strong headstart, and a strong r'lyeh usualy means midgame trouble for everyone else.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 03:56:13 pm

I've added Desert Eye to the poll, but can't make it accept more than three votes per person. You should be able to change your votes if needed, though.(or maybe you can't. I'm new to this poll thing)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 04:01:49 pm

Oh and Desert Eye is wraparound as far as I know.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Karlito on March 05, 2012, 04:06:28 pm

Realm of Rampaging Roaches (see my post above) is wraparound, similar to Streamlands in appearance, and has fewer land provinces, so that might be the most suitable so far.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 04:08:35 pm

Huh. I saw that earlier and wrote it off for some reason. I really like it now, though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Robespierre on March 05, 2012, 04:14:21 pm

I like The Desert Eye and Parganos but as I said I'm not experienced in MP so I will accept your choice.
I'm not sure if there is not too many sea provinces...

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 04:23:32 pm

Eh, I took the poll down. It didn't work too well seeing how new map propositions still appear.

I like Realm of Roaches too. Its size is just about right, it has chokepoints and looks fairly balanced. Are there any objections to this one?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 04:27:24 pm

I think it should work pretty well. There are only 10 sea provinces, but that should be enough for a solid amount of R'lyeh and staging grounds for Atlantis/Mictlan (I'm assuming those are the two other nations with underwater possibilities that you mentioned Il Palazzo... if not, let me know because then I need to do some reading :P). The number of choke points/mountains/peninsulas should give some nice relatively safe areas/strategic points and make for some good places for R'lyeh to get onto land. It gets my vote. :)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Robespierre on March 05, 2012, 04:31:06 pm

Ok for me.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Karlito on March 05, 2012, 04:40:30 pm

Roaches gets my vote as well.

I have to say, I like the selection of Nations we've got going on. I haven't quite figured out how everyone else fits in to the grudge match between the exiled kings of Atlantis and R'yleh, but I'll work it out.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 04:40:51 pm

Quote from: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 04:23:32 pm

I like Realm of Roaches too. Its size is just about right, it has chokepoints and looks fairly balanced.

Sure.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 04:43:18 pm

I'm puttng down Realm of Roaches as our map.
Get it here: http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~elmokki/rampagingroaches.zip and extract the files into your maps folder.

Any wishes regarding victory conditions and/or other settings?
(I'm changing Hall of Fame entries to 15 and "renaming allowed", as per usual)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 04:49:05 pm

I like the renaming/bigger hall of fame. I'm not really sure about nation balance and how messing with income/gem sites/rates will change the balance so maybe leave them as they are? I don't remember the other settings... are there any you think could be changed?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 04:51:34 pm

increase neutral forces strength abit? the default makes them abit of a walkover.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 05:02:14 pm

That would sort of favor SCs pretenders, since they're already adept at fighting armies by themselves while other players will have to mass more troops or gamble with mercenaries early on, but might make the first turns a bit more interesting. It would also slow the early game down a bit, which might favor people who are unexperienced with multiplayer like myself :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Setup
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 05:24:44 pm

I'm not a fan of altering the indies too much, but I can set it to 6(+1) so that everyone is satisfied.
Any other changes can still be made while the pretenders are getting submitted.

The game is on:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12GamesRoundSeven

New to MP? Proceed as explained in the first post in this thread.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 05:48:06 pm

Sheesh... in case anyone has issues finding their Dominions 3 savegames file, mine was in C:\Users\MyUserName\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\dominions3\savedgames

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 06:00:30 pm

How do I upload my pretender to thyat llama thing?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 06:08:38 pm

Check out the "how do I do MP" spoiler in the OP. Basically you email them the file. Everything's going to be done through emails to the llamaserver as that spoiler explains.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 06:19:13 pm

Missed that bit, uploaded mine.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 06:32:43 pm

Just sent my old lady :>

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 06:36:02 pm

Submitted mine. Sorry about the tone of my last post Deadmeat, it came off more "read the OP noob" than I meant it to. :-\

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 06:46:30 pm

So, are going to do AAR  type things and doing fancy in-character updates on how things are going? I actualy lurked around the roundsix topic last year and it was rather fun reading them.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 06:58:37 pm

If you want to, go for it. I'll probably do what Deadmeat suggested and post news bulletin type things periodically. I'm not really sure, though, since I tend to figure out how much I'm comfortable telling everyone once the game is underway.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 05, 2012, 07:02:37 pm

Mama was queen of the mambo
Papa was king of the Congo
Deep down in the jungle
I started bangin' my first bongo
Every monkey'd like to be
In my place instead of me
Cause I'm the king of bongo, baby
I'm the king of bongo bong

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Bluerobin on March 05, 2012, 07:11:18 pm

One day Gus decided it might be neat to rule some people, so he found a quaint little town, killed the mayor, and took it over. Then he told the villagers to go tell other people about him, and he told the other people to tell more people. Eventually there were a whole bunch of people who came to see how cool Gus was; some of them had spears and axes, some had bows and horses. Some had robes, while others had flayed the skin from their backs and stretched it over wooden frames to make kind of gross fleshwings. But Gus thought they seemed pretty cool, so he said hi. Then he decided it'd be pretty awesome if they built a castle, and they did. And that's how Bogarus came to be!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: TempAcc on March 05, 2012, 07:36:28 pm

There was once an old, fat, big hag that roamed the lands. Her mere touch cold turn things to ice and put fires out. She would chase these strange creatures with pearly white skin, round features and eyes that would mysteriously get the urge to run around at night because their parents would have personality issues and drag them around to deserted islands. One day she fell down into the sea while chasing them, and her touch freezed the water around her, finally turning it into a glacier who would spread cold through land and sea.

So basicaly 4000 years later she was found by a lich who was researching magic sites in the region, aided by fishmen dressed in furs. Once she saw the lich, she gave him a hug for saving her, who immediately turned to dust when he noticed how ugly as sin she was. Upon seeing the mightly lich defeated by the mere touch of the hag, the fishmen slaves kneeled and worshipped her as their new ugly as hell god.

The moment can be summed into this:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/210005588/groke_by_espenartman-d3h15ck.jpg)'sup?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s184/radalus/omgfish.jpg)

And so the new age of atlantis began.

Yea I don't feel particulary creative today, but anyone who even read moomim trolls will get the reference :P
I regret not actualy naming her The Groke now :<

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Karlito on March 05, 2012, 07:59:49 pm

Blood for the Blood God!

and blood for the rain god as well, I suppose.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 10:16:38 pm

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/deadmeat1471/XCOM20120306031307screen.jpg)
Sigurd, Son of Fenrir, the only true God howls from a ledge letting the world know he has arrived to claim his rightful godhood. His frost wolves circle him in worship, ready to do his bidding and tear Sigurd's foes limbs from their bodies.

Hail Sigurd, the one true wolf God

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2012, 07:28:34 am

It's on. Turns in your email boxes.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 06, 2012, 12:05:29 pm

Abit of a risky first turn. I hope I didn't just send my god to kill Bogus the troll Trn 1  :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 06, 2012, 12:10:38 pm

Playing it safe for now since I have no SC :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 06, 2012, 12:19:40 pm

Balls, I think my god might hve been on 'sneak'.
 :-X

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 12:26:29 pm

If I remember right you can redo your turn as many times as you want, you just resend the new turn and it overwrites the old one. You might want to check out the site and see if there's an FAQ, though, to be sure. I'm gonna be a few more hours before I'm out of work and can do my turn.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 06, 2012, 12:32:38 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 12:26:29 pm

If I remember right you can redo your turn as many times as you want, you just resend the new turn and it overwrites the old one. You might want to check out the site and see if there's an FAQ, though, to be sure. I'm gonna be a few more hours before I'm out of work and can do my turn.

It's ok, i have alot of chaff in my starting army anyway. (chaff being little people), if they die, i'll actually be pleased.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 06, 2012, 02:29:50 pm

So what are all those little crown thingies on the map? Everyone else's start location?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 02:43:50 pm

Those are victory points. Are we playing with victory points? If they're enabled you need to capture and hold a certain number of them to win.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 06, 2012, 03:15:40 pm

I don't think we're playing with victory points or else Il Palazzo would've told us. Anyway victory point sites tend to have interesting magic sites so people might wanna grab a few, altough they're usualy well guarded so they might stay independant for a long time :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2012, 03:23:19 pm

We are not playing with VPs, so the icons on the map are not doing anything. For some reason they always get placed in MP games(as far as I'm aware). Special sites/garrisons are map-dependent, and I don't think this one has any.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 03:24:46 pm

I had a look at the map file when the map was suggested and it didn't look like there were any map-designated special garrisons, just the independents the game randomly generates to fill the space.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2012, 03:26:13 pm

I gather you've sent your turn already, Bluerobin, and it's only the server lagging behind?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 03:28:28 pm

No I haven't, sorry. I've been at work since I got the email notifying me the turn's ready. It's going to be another two and a half hours probably until I get to a computer that has Dom3 on it. :-\ I'll definitely be able to do my second turn tonight once the turns get processed though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 06, 2012, 03:37:26 pm

No, that's fine. I'm probably a bit eager to get the first dozen or so boring turns behind.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 06, 2012, 05:51:10 pm

Blargh... messed up THAT battle scripting. Oh well, not a huge loss I guess. Got my first and second turns in. If we get more done in the next hour or so I'll submit, otherwise it'll probably be about 24hrs from now again for me.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 06, 2012, 06:27:22 pm

Done mine, I got me some ARGGHHH PIRATES!
...oh and the wolf god Sigurd fed on the blood of human neutrals.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 07, 2012, 03:01:05 am

Geez, I've gone back an revised my battle scripting twice now. I'd probably do it again in a few hours if I didn't have to sleep.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 10:08:30 am

RESTART NECESSARY? What's up Il Palazzo?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 07, 2012, 10:08:53 am

IMPORTANT

O.k., here's the thing: I did a horrible thing and gave Robespierre my copy of Dominions so that he can try the whole MP thing and decide whether it's really worth 200 Polish Zloty. In my naivety, I hoped that the server wouldn't mind, but I was wrong.
Since there's no way of both of us playing in one game right now, I'll step down and let him play the game with you guys.

The good news is: Boksi can play! I suppose he'd rather design his own god, so the game would have to be restarted.

Sorry for the trouble. Also, I hope there's no ACTA-operatives reading this, I bet it'd qualify as a felony.

P.S. Karma is a bitch

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 10:13:36 am

Aww that's unfortunate. I guess it makes first turns that went poorly not matter though, so yay for me? :-\

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 10:26:44 am

Those shrapnel guys really hate sharing. Lol.
But Yeh, the game is damn expensive. I bought it a long time ago when I wasn't so poor.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 10:30:19 am

Yeah, I managed to hit a time when I had a bit of extra money and there was a sale (woohoo $48 instead of $55... :-\). There are... less legitimate ways to get multiplayer to work without buying extra copies, but they have a strong tendency to break in new and unexpected ways that make it really impractical to even try.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 10:31:44 am

Yeah I also have a friend who wants to try it... he couldn't even get my legit copy to work  :/

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 07, 2012, 10:36:18 am

I've reset the game. You can send your pretenders again.Wait, no. You don't have to. It's just waiting for the person replacing me(Boksi?)
I also need to hear from Robespierre.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART NECESSARY
Post by: Robespierre on March 07, 2012, 10:43:23 am

Sorry guys for troubles.
I still want to play if Il Palazzo will "borrow" me his cd key.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 07, 2012, 10:47:13 am

Sure, Robespierre, go ahead. I'll be happy to simply watch this one. Oh, and I'll keep moderating the thread and the game(unless somebody wants to take over the admin duties).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Boksi on March 07, 2012, 11:09:28 am

Yay, I can play!

Not too happy that my joy comes at the expense of another's, but oh well.

I guess that since Pazzy is sitting this one out it means Patala is up for grabs? I think I've got a good build for that.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 11:19:30 am

Quote from: Boksi on March 07, 2012, 11:09:28 am

Yay, I can play!

Not too happy that my joy comes at the expense of another's, but oh well.

I guess that since Pazzy is sitting this one out it means Patala is up for grabs? I think I've got a good build for that.

Like a vulture he comes for the kill  :P

I need to look at patala, i've never ever been them.

Oh, its those goddam apes.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 07, 2012, 11:23:03 am

Ayup, Patala is free for grabs.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Boksi on March 07, 2012, 01:02:29 pm

After a bit of confusion(com vs net), I've managed to submit my pretender.

Gonna stomp all over you. Or die horribly. Who knows?

EDIT: Oh whoops, I made one mistake. Well, I don't think it's too bad unless someone figures it out though. The game can certainly go on anyway.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven(FULL) - Waiting for Pretenders
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 01:42:22 pm

Quote from: Deadmeat1471 on March 05, 2012, 10:16:38 pm

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Sigurd, Son of Fenrir, the only true God howls from a ledge letting the world know he has arrived to claim his rightful godhood. His frost wolves circle him in worship, ready to do his bidding and tear Sigurd's foes limbs from their bodies.

Hail Sigurd, the one true wolf God

<< This <<

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 01:42:34 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 07, 2012, 01:02:29 pm

Gonna stomp all over you. Or die horribly. Who knows?

That's kind of how I feel about everyone in every game of Dom3 multiplayer I've played...

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Karlito on March 07, 2012, 01:54:42 pm

Alright, we'll pretend that I like this start location better anyway.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 02:52:17 pm

Quote from: Karlito on March 07, 2012, 01:54:42 pm

Alright, we'll pretend that I like this start location better anyway.

I had pirates last time. I have no pirates this time.

The Rum god is sad.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 03:05:46 pm

I was almost completely surrounded by groups of 60-70 heavy troops and cavalry... I'm hoping for a little bit easier this time :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: TempAcc on March 07, 2012, 04:33:18 pm

I read the whole thing and don't mind the game starting again, it was just the second turn after all :P
The game page thing is telling me I need to send the 2ch file, does this mean its the pretender one? I wouldn't mind since I want to rename my god :o, or is it just the one after playing the first turn?

Also @toadburger, thats a baby tier image to use for trolling. Try actual gore the next time.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 07, 2012, 04:45:00 pm

.2h files are the turn files you'll be sending to llama each turn.

It is unfortunate that we're one of the threads that got invaded by toadburger. If it bothers you, put him on the ignore list, or just wait for the admins to take him down.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 04:48:07 pm

Well, I suppose that's good at least, he taught me how to use the ignore list and got the privilege of being the first person on it.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Karlito on March 07, 2012, 07:15:06 pm

I'm cowering in fear already.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/5hRyA.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 07:16:34 pm

Pre-edit: Ninja :-\

Woohoo got turns in. Boksi, I approve of your naming scheme.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/bluerobin427/folders/Jing/media/303e615c-613c-4244-a7a9-3983d3378173/2012-03-07_1906.png)

The god Aboozaloopa and his prophet SKULLCRUSHER, THE FELL AND TERRIBLE. Awesome. Oh and SKULLCRUSHER, THE FELL AND TERRIBLE must be scary, right?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/bluerobin427/folders/Jing/media/d502df89-056e-41f8-a014-64f07b69fba5/2012-03-07_1909.png)

"Markata Scout"(http://dom3.servegame.com/sprites/units/2130.png)...  maybe not so scary.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: TempAcc on March 07, 2012, 08:28:47 pm

Everytime I look at that sprite, I see a hammer and sickle for a split second.
Which can only mean boksi is turning patala into a communist primate theocracy :o

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - RESTART IN PROGRESS
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 07, 2012, 09:03:45 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 07, 2012, 07:16:34 pm

Pre-edit: Ninja :-\

Woohoo got turns in. Boksi, I approve of your naming scheme.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/bluerobin427/folders/Jing/media/303e615c-613c-4244-a7a9-3983d3378173/2012-03-07_1906.png)

The god Aboozaloopa and his prophet SKULLCRUSHER, THE FELL AND TERRIBLE. Awesome. Oh and SKULLCRUSHER, THE FELL AND TERRIBLE must be scary, right?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://content.screencast.com/users/bluerobin427/folders/Jing/media/d502df89-056e-41f8-a014-64f07b69fba5/2012-03-07_1909.png)

Sigurd <--- most kills.
Also, name is so awesome it broke the interface.  :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 08, 2012, 11:37:47 am

Map came while I was sleeping, so I sent my turn in now.

Are the independents on this map unusually tough? Am I supposed to be surrounded by 60-soldier defenses on all sides? Of course, I'll just stomp them all with my elephants, but still.

Quote from: TempAcc on March 07, 2012, 08:28:47 pm

Everytime I look at that sprite, I see a hammer and sickle for a split second.
Which can only mean boksi is turning patala into a communist primate theocracy :o

What other government could justify throwing hordes of innocent little monkeys into battle as cannon fodder? I mean, that's pretty much all they're useful for, distracting foes, thus wasting their valuable time and ammunition, and then dying.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 08, 2012, 11:40:32 am

So we upped independents from 5 to 6 but I feel like it should have had quite the impact it did. I mean it's not enough to actually slow me down (most likely... until I mess something up and lose my entire military and my pretender somehow I'm sure) but it's interesting since I don't know if I've ever personally messed with that setting.

Edit: Hmm looking at the score tables (http://www.llamaserver.net/showScores.cgi?game=Bay12GamesRoundSeven) my income MIGHT make me a bit of a target... :-\

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 08, 2012, 11:49:35 am

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 08, 2012, 11:40:32 am

Hmm looking at the score tables (http://www.llamaserver.net/showScores.cgi?game=Bay12GamesRoundSeven) my income MIGHT make me a bit of a target... :-\

There's also the fact that you have awesome mages and great summons and have been expanding fast and are very dangerous late game.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 08, 2012, 11:56:07 am

Pshhhh. I guess the first three are true, but I've only ever been to late game one and a half times (the second was taking over for someone else) so I'm still really clueless about how to actually win. I doubt I'm actually a threat to anyone, regardless of how big I get how quickly. :)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 08, 2012, 12:17:43 pm

Tlahuixcalpantecuhtli, divine prophet of the King of Fires, smiled as the blood ran from the corpse in his hands down the steps of the great stone pyramid that had stood in the heart of Mictlan for countless ages. Certainly, the sacrifice was necessary to make the rains fall, and ensure that the sun will rise tomorrow, and to keep the stars from falling from the sky, but, Tlahuixcalpantecuhtli thought as he retired to his chambers, important as all that was, it was really all about being evil. Oh and how great it was, being evil.

A breathless messenger approached the prophet. "Sir, our troops have seized control in the Forest of Gay Unicorns." Tlahuixcalpantecuhtli nodded sagely, "And have they found any unicorns?" The messenger swallowed nervously before replying, "No sir." Stroking his particularly well-groomed goatee the prophet murmured, "Such a pity." Sighing he added, "Just have the troops round up and kill the firstborn of every family then."

Tlahuixcalpantecuhtli smiled as he watched the messenger scurry away. Oh yes, it was sooo great.



But seriously, what's up with these province names?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 08, 2012, 02:01:16 pm

 :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 08, 2012, 02:38:44 pm

Hahaha there's actually a Forest of Gay Unicorns! That's awesome. Also look out for the Lake of Rainbow-colored Fish, the Forest of Black Elves, and the Forest of Homophobic Fairies.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 08, 2012, 07:25:11 pm

Breaking news:

POLICE BREAKTHROUGH
HOMOPHOBIC FAIRIES SUSPECTED IN UNICORN DISAPPEARANCE

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 09, 2012, 09:06:52 am

Watch out, there's at least one borked magic site in this version of CBM, allowing you to hire ettins for 0gp and 1 resource. Doing so would be considered an exploit.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 09:49:56 am

Does TempAcc know the game will host in a little under 2 hours? Get that turn in Mr. Atlantis!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 09, 2012, 10:01:42 am

:S sorry guys, there was an accident nearby which killed the whole dorm's internet for the whole day, there was nothing I could do. I'm gonna be home in a few hours. I'm not gonna send the 2ch file till about 2 hours from now, minimun.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 10:04:25 am

We're gonna need an hour or two extension for you then, assuming people think it's ok.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 11:37:11 am

Looks like it hosted before TempAcc got a turn in.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 09, 2012, 11:49:05 am

Awww I had just sent it too :C
It hosted just a minute or two before I sent it. It just gave me the wrong turn number warning thing.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 11:54:55 am

It's possible to roll the turn back, but Il Palazzo's the only one who can do it. Not sure what the rule's gonna be, though, since the hard 24hr turn was kind of the idea of the game I think.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 09, 2012, 12:02:42 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 09, 2012, 10:01:42 am

:S sorry guys, there was an accident nearby which killed the whole dorm's internet for the whole day, there was nothing I could do. I'm gonna be home in a few hours. I'm not gonna send the 2ch file till about 2 hours from now, minimun.

What inconsiderate shit had the nerve to die in the middle of our game  :P

Also,
(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/deadmeat1471/XCOM20120309165806screen.jpg)
RAWR LOCKJAW teh giant.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 09, 2012, 12:23:31 pm

I'll just play the stale turn, doesn't matter, I'll just hope you people start poking eachother soon so I can regain the lost time :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 12:53:55 pm

Hmm... the Army Size graph has always confused me. I think I've trained 12 troops total, and that's including commanders, but I'm in the lead in army size somehow? I guess I might have an event of some sort waiting for me, I haven't checked my most recent turn yet.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 09, 2012, 12:58:24 pm

It's the early stages of the game, so a turn lost shouldn't be that much of a problem.

If there's ever a need to postpone turns due to some unforseen circumstances, let me know early enough for me to notice it.

Just so you know, procrastination does not count as an unforseen circumstance.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 09, 2012, 01:49:06 pm

Yea, I sorta hoped the internet would return before I had to go to classes, but it didn't and I remained busy for hours before I actualy managed to get back and send the turn. The internet came back hours before I got home, I made that post on the previous page using a college library computer.

PROPER USE OF COLLEGE RESOURCES GO~

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 09, 2012, 01:50:27 pm

Don't worry about it, won't mean anything missing a turn this early.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 09, 2012, 03:49:25 pm

I can hardly believe how badly I'm doing. Never had quite such a bad early game. Defeated twice in a row by the same province, dammit. I ought to have three provinces by now!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 09, 2012, 11:53:44 pm

Well that was fun while it lasted...

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 10:25:37 am

Sorry, file sent :P

Blame Ingmar Bergman.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 10, 2012, 10:46:39 am

I don't suppose anyone has a few air gems they're willing to trade? I'd like to buy 4 of them. I'd be willing to give up to 8 water gems or astral pearls for them, or 6 earth gems.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 10, 2012, 11:23:23 am

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/deadmeat1471/XCOM20120310161750screen.jpg)

Tupac -.-

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 11:53:11 am

Fuq da police.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 10, 2012, 01:12:32 pm

(http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh270/deadmeat1471/XCOM20120310180923screen.jpg)

k.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 10, 2012, 01:31:01 pm

Is the seller insane or is it the onion? We might never know.

Here's an idea:
Let's do the newspaper articles commentary. Anybody who does, learns about, is the target of something interesting in the game or wants to spread propaganda, sends me a PM with a short description, turn number, parties or provinces involved and any other details that he likes(might be made up). I'll try and cook something interesting from these bits of info and post them here in an article form once every five or so turns.

Anybody interested?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 10, 2012, 01:34:52 pm

I like that idea. In fact, I'll send you one thing now.

Still looking for air gems.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 01:37:52 pm

Sounds neat, +1.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 10, 2012, 02:07:53 pm

Agreed, sent some small news.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 10, 2012, 02:15:51 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 10, 2012, 10:46:39 am

I don't suppose anyone has a few air gems they're willing to trade? I'd like to buy 4 of them. I'd be willing to give up to 8 water gems or astral pearls for them, or 6 earth gems.

If you have 8 astral pearls, you can turn them into 4 air gems with alchemy.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 10, 2012, 02:18:36 pm

Quote from: Karlito on March 10, 2012, 02:15:51 pm

Quote from: Boksi on March 10, 2012, 10:46:39 am

I don't suppose anyone has a few air gems they're willing to trade? I'd like to buy 4 of them. I'd be willing to give up to 8 water gems or astral pearls for them, or 6 earth gems.

If you have 8 astral pearls, you can turn them into 4 air gems with alchemy.

...

D'oh!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 04:54:49 pm

Goddamn, sailing is my new favorite commander skill.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Neonivek on March 10, 2012, 05:57:54 pm

Yeah Dominions has a LOT you need to learn to play it properly.

If you were to write all the things you need to know to play the game competently, it would be several pages long.

Though that is also its appeal, the sheer depth.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 06:28:40 pm

Goddamnit tupac, you slowpoke, get to writing a formal apology to bogarus.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 10, 2012, 06:33:36 pm

Roooooaaaar you've angered the blah blah blah. Yeah... that was really terrible and unfortunate. Newspaper article material!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Neonivek on March 10, 2012, 10:04:02 pm

With all this talk of Dominions 3, I must see if I can get a copy

*Checks online*

Over 50 dollars!?! What!?!

Well, at least I can still watch... Are you actually going to have something for us who are not in this game? or you just going to do the whole thing behind closed doors?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 10, 2012, 10:21:59 pm

There'll probably be something to watch once, you know, something starts to happen.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 10, 2012, 10:25:41 pm

Yeah we're just barely in turn 9 and borders are finally starting to get a little close so things might get interesting soon. I feel like people typically don't talk about their own strategies much, it's mostly when other people notice it and say something that things start to come out. I think the newspaper article commentary Il Palazzo has planned will be neat. :)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Neonivek on March 10, 2012, 10:47:09 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 10, 2012, 10:25:41 pm

Yeah we're just barely in turn 9 and borders are finally starting to get a little close so things might get interesting soon. I feel like people typically don't talk about their own strategies much, it's mostly when other people notice it and say something that things start to come out. I think the newspaper article commentary Il Palazzo has planned will be neat. :)

Yeah I read a letsplay of it one time and it was great and so indepth.

The problem was eventually the players dropped and the letsplay just sort of... became terrible as a result. (great start, disapointing finish)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 10:49:41 pm

Yea, having one person do the newspaper thing rather then having each player post fluff saves the thread from being cluttered, hopefuly we can provide him with enough info to create some neat posts.

Atm I'm just wondering if the score board on llamaserver is accurate. It says I have almost 200 troops and that some nations have tons of research (+250) done already while I only have 6448 D:

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 10, 2012, 10:55:58 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 10, 2012, 10:49:41 pm

Atm I'm just wondering if the score board on llamaserver is accurate. It says I have almost 200 troops and that some nations have tons of research (+250) done already while I only have 64 D:

I believe that the troop number takes troop size into account. So human troops (which are size 2) count as two points each. But yeah, some nations must have a pretender contributing to their research.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 10, 2012, 11:19:41 pm

Yup, those tables are numerical versions of the in-game score charts and they're accurate!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 07:18:36 am

I'd like to note that only R'lyeh and Patala had an awake pretender doing research on their first turn. Bogarus' research appears to be solely from their mages, because I'm pretty sure his pretender was a SC, who is most likely dead now unless he was immortal. Bogarus seems to be overtaxing every turn to fund their mage purchases, since their mages are freaking powerful.

Well, that's just my guessing though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 08:05:48 am

Well, they're not super powerful, they're just... well rounded. But good guesses overall.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 08:36:54 am

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 08:05:48 am

Well, they're not super powerful, they're just... well rounded. But good guesses overall.

Well, let's see... You have sacred blood mages, putting you on an endgame path already, plenty of astral(ie communion) mages, and access to air, fire, earth and death. And that's just the recruitables, the most expensive of which costs only 250 gold for a total of 7 picks of magic, with a 10% chance of another pick.

And that's just the recruitables. You've got a bunch of good summoned mages as well. So what am I saying here? They're super powerful because they're so well rounded. I mean, look at me and my Patala:

Outside my capital, all I get is 2S1N at most. Yeah, nothing but communion fodder, those. My capital-only mages give me more nature, earth and water, but the cheapest one costs me 250 gold for 5 picks. My most powerful one gets 9 picks, with a 10% chance at 10, but costs 450 gold. And I can only recruit one per turn. My summons give me some access to air at Conjuration 6, too, but nothing else until I start pulling out freaking Rudras. I've never done that, you know, and they can't research or forge anyway.

Basically, Bogarus is powerful late-game because they can recruit a wide variety of paths everywhere.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 08:54:44 am

Ok, yeah, assuming 1) I can get off do a decent start (which seems to be debatable, despite what the charts may say) and 2) I can actually use communions (which I never have before). Almost all of my mages only have 1 in any given path except the 250 cost ones which are only recruitable in my capital. Plus it's one thing to have a potentially powerful nation on paper and another to actually use it well. To be honest, I'm not a particularly good Dom3 player, having only played against people once, really. *shrug*

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 09:07:32 am

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 08:54:44 am

To be honest, I'm not a particularly good Dom3 player, having only played against people once, really. *shrug*

That's infinitely more often than I have. Or something.

I'd give you tips about communions and how the fact they have low paths isn't too important, but that would be helping an enemy. Anyway, your recruit-anywhere mages are still better than mine.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 09:14:21 am

But you've got MONKEYS!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 09:19:08 am

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 09:14:21 am

But you've got MONKEYS!

Well, I was just comparing mages. Monkeys don't make terrific mages.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 11, 2012, 09:23:09 am

I'm not particulary good either, but I have a taste for picking nations people don't usualy pick learning to play them successfuly. I have a vague idea of how LA antlantis works, and so far its working decently, altough there's no real wars breaking out yet, but I'm definitely on the weak side when it comes to research, altough my mages are good combat casters, if certain conditions are met. I never really used communions either but I plan to try in this match.

Btw bluerobin, did you contract with those knights run out in the same turn you used them to take that province? I was sorta scared when I saw the first battle record of bogarus pubstomping the neutrals in that province with knights, then I accidentaly waltz'd in and they had gone poof :o

Quote from: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 09:19:08 am

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 09:14:21 am

But you've got MONKEYS!COMMUNIST THEOCRATICAL PRIMATES!

Well, I was just comparing mages. Monkeys don't make terrific mages.

I also have a boksi in my army, but you'll never find him  8)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 10:15:41 am

Yeah the contract ran out the same turn, but they all died or routed in the first battle anyway.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 11:18:16 am

Atlantis is pulling ahead. He's got two armies stomping around, I'll bet. Too low dominion for an awake SC, none of the immediate research of a rainbow mage, which means he's most likely pulling an imprisoned bless/scales god. His pretender's titles suggest astral magic, so perhaps we're up against 25 gold/10 resource/2 map move heavy infantry with twist fate.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 11, 2012, 11:22:23 am

Spoiler: Thank you for subscribing to the Daily Doom (click to show/hide)

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Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 11, 2012, 11:30:31 am

Hahaha, that is amazing.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 11, 2012, 11:36:35 am

Nice to know that Bogarus will have a bit more difficulty breaking into water magic, then.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 11, 2012, 11:52:55 am

Lol, I approve, would read again.

And yep, I'm doing a bless strategy with arssatuts, its either that or investing in ice guards early for atlantis :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 11, 2012, 12:01:19 pm

Hahaha that's fantastic Il Palazzo, really well done.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 11, 2012, 12:14:35 pm

Cheers guys. I should be able to release an issue every week, providing there's enough material.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 11, 2012, 12:37:29 pm

Nice paper :D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 11, 2012, 01:50:08 pm

@#!$#@%! goddamnit Tupac, y u so slow?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 11, 2012, 07:44:31 pm

Well, that's the first year done. I hope everyone feels like they've got a decent start.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 11, 2012, 08:02:40 pm

Yea, it was a satisfatory year overall, altough I'm still way behind on dominion since apparently I'm the only one who took a non awake pretender :P

Also, fuck vampires.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Neonivek on March 12, 2012, 08:53:06 am

Quote from: TempAcc on March 11, 2012, 08:02:40 pm

Yea, it was a satisfatory year overall, altough I'm still way behind on dominion since apparently I'm the only one who took a non awake pretender :P

Also, fuck vampires.

Yeah but just wait until yours awakens.

Admittingly I don't know what you used your points on or what kind of pretendor you were going for. Though I doubt anyone went for a "Dominion" pretendor.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 12, 2012, 10:10:00 am

I have to say, my starting position sucked.

But I've been getting some good events, so I still have a good chance of getting ahead.

EDIT: Ahahahaha, who needs order when you can have luck? I GOT A BOW OF ACCURACY, FUCK YEH.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 12, 2012, 07:16:00 pm

I appreciate everyone being active. Completing 2-3 turns in a day is really nice.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Deadmeat1471 on March 14, 2012, 11:32:23 am

Sorry for being slow, my dog chewed through my internet lead. My internets be intermittent for the next week.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 15, 2012, 11:46:50 am

IT BEGINS

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 15, 2012, 11:49:13 am

Uh oh. That's... ominous.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Xeron on March 15, 2012, 12:55:10 pm

I'd like to join.I don't suppose i can do that now can i ?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 15, 2012, 02:36:41 pm

Quote from: Xeron on March 15, 2012, 12:55:10 pm

I'd like to join.I don't suppose i can do that now can i ?

Nope. The game has already started. But you can ask Il Palazzo to be made a substitute player if one of us drops out, I guess.

Quote from: TempAcc on March 15, 2012, 11:46:50 am

IT BEGINS

I see what you just did. Good luck with that.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 15, 2012, 10:45:38 pm

It seems that Deadmeat was banned (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80245.0), so we'll have to find some way other than forum pm's to contact him (I think). And I guess we could use this thread to publicly conspire against him.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 16, 2012, 06:38:42 am

Deadmeat banned? How odd. He must've spent too much time bordering R'lyeh, I reckon.

I suppose he'll have to use the in-game messaging system, if only to exchange email addresses with the rest of you.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Neonivek on March 16, 2012, 08:24:16 am

Odd I could have sworn he was banned long ago... but I guess it was just boarderline.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 17, 2012, 12:11:37 pm

This game is going by much faster the the other rounds so far :o

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 18, 2012, 09:49:03 am

Utgard has staled on the last 2 out of 3 turns. I know he has internet troubles, but maybe we should set some kind of official limit on the amount of stales before we have to replace a nation.

Also, is anyone else feeling that the next few turns are going to be particularly painful, or is that just me?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 18, 2012, 10:33:39 am

Are you guys in touch with Deadmeat? Can somebody shoot him an email and ask about the situation?

Also, the next "news" issue is going to be released no earlier than on Tuesday. My teaching practice started and I'm kinda busy.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 18, 2012, 11:12:32 am

He sent us the following message in game on turn 21.

Quote

I've been banned from bay12 forums for using [REDACTED] website -.- so I cannot post, send or receive messages there.
Diplomacy can be done here, or you can replace me if you wish. I can continue playing though otherwise.

I'm not really sure how to interpret that, since he has had trouble playing seeing as his dog ate his internet and all.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 18, 2012, 11:50:16 am

Yeeea, I think we should message him and work on replacing him soon. There's that one guy a page or so ago that wanted to join.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Boksi on March 18, 2012, 12:00:32 pm

Yeah, last turn I saw a huge army of giants pop up on my border and thought 'oh shit he's going after me' and this turn that army is still there, but I'm not sure he ever sent in his turn this time so maybe that's why.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 18, 2012, 01:53:27 pm

Currently wondering why mercenaries from mictlan just tried to attack one of my more heavily defended provinces at the time :I

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 18, 2012, 02:18:16 pm

Was it an innocent misclick or is something far more sinister in the works??

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: TempAcc on March 18, 2012, 02:48:58 pm

AND SO IT BEGINSagain

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on March 19, 2012, 09:45:04 am

Since he's once again failed to do a turn, we should probably replace Deadmeat. I sent him an email just now letting him know that we're considering a substitute, but since his internet is down he might not reply for a while.

What do the rest of you think? Should we try and get Xeron or someone?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 19, 2012, 09:50:59 am

Haha I sent him an email too, about 2 minutes before you did. It had about the same message though, so it should be ok. Maybe give Xeron a heads up and let him know we might need him to sub if he's ok with doing that?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 19, 2012, 03:13:21 pm

I'm going to assume he's done with this game. I've sent PMs to Xaran and Lorak(whom I spotted on the forum just a moment ago). We'll put the game on hold until a replacement shows up.

edit: Lorak says he's game for this. He's one of the most adaptable, if not terribly experienced, players I ever played with, so you guys can count on some hard time with the armies of Utgard.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Lorak on March 19, 2012, 03:45:02 pm

Heya!!

Just got a PM from Il Palazzo today about a Dominions 3 game needing another player.  I had actually been thinking about Dominions 3 lately and how fun and interesting it is, so I figured it would be great to get back into a game! :-D  I told him I would join for sure!

Then I started thinking about all the other games I've played and lost on Bay12, the countless hours spent trying to figure out a way to not be killed by Il Palazzo's rampaging golems, the fact that this is the most stressful game I have ever played (Odd, being turn based), and that there is soooooo much stuff I still don't know and need to learn about the game...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/12635409.jpg)

Anyway, I love this game and am looking forward to getting into it again after about a year of not playing!

I am currently trying to find my CD, but once I find it, I should be ready to go either tonight or tomorrow.

Is there anything important I need to know about my nation's current situation?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Karlito on March 19, 2012, 03:50:21 pm

The score charts show that you're behind in troops and research, and you're probably at war with someone (but not me).

Oh, and thanks for playing!!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 19, 2012, 03:56:17 pm

@Lorak:
Heh, the rampaging golems that had to run for their lifeless existences and dig down in the mountains. Oh, I remember. It was the best kind of stressful.

I'll let the players explain the situation, although in a few days I should be able to write another piece of commentary, if you can wait that long. But I think the diplomacy will start in earnest now that the new player is in the house, so you'll be getting lots of fine propaganda disguised as information anyway.

Anyway, I'll need your email address(I can't seem to find it).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 19, 2012, 04:01:43 pm

Welcome to the game! We'll try not to make it particularly stressful for you. Utgard's in a pretty good position as far as I can tell you're doing pretty well on province number and dominion, but your research, number of forts, gem income, and army size are fairly small. However, your income's really high compared to most other nations and you have 3 turns of staled income to work with, so you should be able to catch up to where you want to be relatively quickly. You're not at war with Bogarus, but I can't speak for other nations. As far as I know the only nation Utgard might have ticked off is Patala, maybe R'lyeh, but I didn't think there was an actual war happening yet.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Boksi on March 19, 2012, 04:09:27 pm

I'll pop in and offer my unique viewpoint as the player of Patala:

YOU'VE GOT SOME 80-90 SACRED GIANTS AND YOUR PRETENDER ON MY DOORSTEP. GEEZE LOUISE I WONDER WHAT DEADMEAT WAS PLANNING TO DO WITH THOSE.

Of course, then he stopped sending in turns, so I got some time to prepare.

_{oh and you've got Angerboda.}

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Lorak on March 19, 2012, 04:15:51 pm

I don't even know what Angerboda is, but it sounds good.

Also, does this mean we're at war?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Boksi on March 19, 2012, 04:20:13 pm

Quote from: Lorak on March 19, 2012, 04:15:51 pm

I don't even know what Angerboda is, but it sounds good.

Also, does this mean we're at war?

Angerboda is one of your heroes, I think.

And we're at the brink of war. Frankly, even if you don't want war I've been making plans for fighting you these last few turns so you might as well attack, or at least expect me to attack if you don't.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Karlito on March 19, 2012, 04:43:42 pm

Cause I'm sure he'll want to fight someone that's spent the last 3 or 4 days planning ways to defeat him.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Boksi on March 19, 2012, 04:50:49 pm

Quote from: Karlito on March 19, 2012, 04:43:42 pm

Cause I'm sure he'll want to fight someone that's spent the last 3 or 4 days planning ways to defeat him.

And I'm totally going to let him go after meticulously planning how to kill him.

Look, I'd love to show him some mercy as a bit of good sportmanship, but if I don't attack someone soon I'll get left behind and frankly I don't think I'd do too well in the massive melee that every other nation is currently embroiled in.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 19, 2012, 06:11:41 pm

Guess what, people? Deadmeat password-protected his game. Unless you can reach him and extract the password, we're going to be quite unable to proceed.
I can never understand why people do this.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 19, 2012, 06:30:27 pm

Hrm... in case something happens to me, my password's deathbog.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Lorak on March 19, 2012, 07:02:57 pm

I knew I didn't remember having to enter a password before.  :-P

There's absolutely no way to reset the password?  :-(

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 19, 2012, 07:21:31 pm

Oh, looks like there's a site to recover passwords from Pretender files. http://dom3.servegame.com/passrecover.php

Do we have a way to get his pretender file? If not, apparently the guy who put that site together CAN recover them from turn files but he has to do it manually.

Details here: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=38828

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 19, 2012, 09:24:35 pm

Wha?? Just when the game was getting fun :C
I didn't even know you could password protect your game on llamaserver, well at least not that a player could password protect his own share.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 20, 2012, 03:50:27 pm

I need an update on the situation.

1.Does anybody have an email address to Deameat?
2.If yes, did anybody send him a request for the password?
3.Was there any kind of a response at all?


Re: the password recovery guy - that post is four years old. I don't know if the guy is even still active and reachable.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 20, 2012, 03:56:09 pm

I haven't heard from deadmeat at all from any of the in-game (obvious) or email correspondence I've tried (using the Bay 12 "email this user" link). I dunno if Karlito's had any better luck.

lch (the password guy) is still active (and a VIP) on the Shrapnel forums and the program for recovering passwords from Pretender files has been on at least two servers since he posted it initially, so it seems like it's something he's keeping up, at least partially. Plus it's better to try that if we don't have another option than to say "hey here's a guy who offered to recover passwords in the past, lets ignore him and give up."

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 20, 2012, 04:02:14 pm

It wasn't a defeatist call to abandon all hope. I don't have an account on Shrapnel forums and am very rarely perusing them, so I simply needed to know whether or not the guy can still be reached.
I'll register tomorrow and try shooting him a PM then.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 20, 2012, 04:02:31 pm

I wouldn't mind if we ended up restarting. I'd love to try LA Ulm on a MP game, and I'm having fun any way around as long as the turns are active, but other players might not soooooo yea, lets try to recover this one first I guess.

Deadmeat's email is on his bay12 account.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 20, 2012, 04:06:24 pm

Yeah sorry Il P that was more hostile than it should have been. If you'd like I can get in touch since I have an account.

Edit: I would be up for restarting as well if this recovery thing doesn't pan out, though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Boksi on March 20, 2012, 04:18:43 pm

It wouldn't be a disaster to restart I guess.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Karlito on March 20, 2012, 08:54:58 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 20, 2012, 03:56:09 pm

I haven't heard from deadmeat at all from any of the in-game (obvious) or email correspondence I've tried (using the Bay 12 "email this user" link). I dunno if Karlito's had any better luck.

I did the same, and haven't heard anything. I don't really want to restart, but you know, it goes how it goes.

EDIT: Since I have a few thoughts on how to refine my bless, maybe a restart wouldn't be so bad.  ;D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 20, 2012, 11:24:08 pm

Quote from: Bluerobin on March 20, 2012, 04:06:24 pm

If you'd like I can get in touch since I have an account.

Cheers mate, if you could do that. Let me know how it goes.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Robespierre on March 21, 2012, 10:48:06 am

I wouldn't mind, let's restart if we have to.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 21, 2012, 11:30:10 am

Message send to lch, I'll let you know when I hear a response.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Neonivek on March 21, 2012, 11:51:22 am

Going to make a new thread for this restart or use this one?

Hmm I am starting to wonder the exact point of pretendors with resurection. I am having trouble seeing a situation where it would be more then a "mild" advantage (unless I guess... you keep all the equipment you had before you die)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 21, 2012, 12:12:05 pm

Bringing gods back when they're destroyed takes a fair bit of priest work and takes a while. Unless you're running a bless strategy, not having your god around can be a pretty sizeable disvantage, specialy if you depend on it to cast powerful rituals or forge stuff, or to just lead a huge army around that is greatly boosted by its skills and paths. Immortality removes that worry in many situations unless you're deep into enemy dominion (pretenders spread dominion pretty fast so its unlikely they'll be killed in a more permanent way when raiding weak dominion provinces), and takes care of afflictions over time, so something like the risen oracle, which is both immortal and good at fighting alone can make the ideal super combatant.

Immortality is not as useful when expanding then it is on defending your territory. Fighting inside your own dominions means you'll never truly lose, just the province and the stuff you carry.

An immortal unit, when given the black heart item can also be made into the perfect assassin when in friendly dominion. Give him a poison weapon. One hit and he'll kill any living, non poison immune commander, even if he dies.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 21, 2012, 12:15:27 pm

We're not sure if we're going to have to restart yet, I think we were all just mentioning whether we would be in for the next one if we did have to restart. It's looking like we aren't going to have to, but I'm not going to say for sure either way until we get word back from lch.

(ninjad but posting anyway because I wrote it up)
The immortal skill is important for a few reasons:
1) it immediately resurrects the dead unit at the capital (better than having to use priests to Call God and waste their turns/your money to buy them)
2) it slowly removes afflictions (which will undoubtedly happen if a unit dies repeatedly)
3) it doesn't reduce magic paths (if you manually Call God it reduces all of a pretender's paths by 1 each)

You don't get to keep their equipment as far as I know, though, so it's best for early game when they can work well without equipment or later if you assume they're going to die but that you're going to win anyway and send commanders along to gather the gear after they die.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Robespierre on March 21, 2012, 01:22:21 pm

In my opinion at the beginning is better to restart than replace player.
Anyway It's only my opinion ;).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 21, 2012, 03:32:37 pm

I agree though :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Neonivek on March 21, 2012, 03:59:28 pm

Well the only Combatant Immortal I know of is the Phoenix with the Lich King being more of a Magical Immortal. (I am probably wrong given I only got to play the demo and watch a few letsplays)

I know Immortal has a point in it of itself... But I don't know if it is worth intentionally picking a pretendor with it over another (I have never even seen a single letsplay where ANYONE picked a immortal pretendor).

Which I only wonder because frankly... I sort of like the Lich King.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 21, 2012, 09:12:51 pm

Risen Oracle.
Too bad its agartha restricted, best immortal SC pretender by far.

Also, have dwarven hammers been removed in this CBM version? A friend of mine couldn't find it in the list with CBM on, but when CBM's off it shows up again.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Neonivek on March 21, 2012, 09:34:04 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 21, 2012, 09:12:51 pm

Risen Oracle.
Too bad its agartha restricted, best immortal SC pretender by far.

Hearing that almost makes me worried some Pretendors arn't that good.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 21, 2012, 11:06:20 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 21, 2012, 09:12:51 pm

Also, have dwarven hammers been removed in this CBM version? A friend of mine couldn't find it in the list with CBM on, but when CBM's off it shows up again.

It's been made into a unique, I think. The latest CBM comes with a forging reference in .pdf, so you might want to have a look there.

It kinda looks like everybody wants to have the game restarted anyway, so maybe we should just do that?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 22, 2012, 05:21:14 am

If I recall correctly, you also lose paths (1) and some other stats when you "die" normally, while the immortal fellas have slightly less of a issue with it (you still have a utterly useless cripple if you die to often, so no immortal defender of your capital in all glory) - and you drop your items.

They are fun thou and you can do lots of shenanigans, like casting some of the area of effect spells that affect the whole battlefield (give yourself a item with resistance, then cast what your magic paths allow, from poison clouds to everything is on fire.jpg) and just retreat at turn 3, quite effective vs huge armys. I also like using snake-bladder-suicide units against those annoying massive armys... if you are willing to surrender territory, you can cripple/wound any army based on massive chaff or simple human like creatures.

Argata is a special little race imo, so sucky at the start (nearly any race can violate them and there tendency to be near water will give any ryleh player a quite easy extra capital), but if they get to lategame there armys and sc boost some of the most scary hp/armor/ouchness of them all. Maybe more for those who like to play defensive.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 22, 2012, 07:25:42 am

Just got a response from lch. He dug around and found what he needed to help us so we don't have to restart if we don't want to. I guess I could let him know if we're just going to restart though?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Robespierre on March 22, 2012, 07:55:58 am

So who would like to restart except me and TempAcc?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 22, 2012, 08:39:58 am

I would, but I'd rather not since we're past the boring part of this game already.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Karlito on March 22, 2012, 09:35:01 am

I say we go on with it!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: TempAcc on March 22, 2012, 09:53:50 am

Indeed, a restart would also be more fair on the new players so they won't have to pick up deadmeat's utgard and be able to make their own decisions from the start.

Are we going to use a new thread though?

Anyway, if we do late age again, I call Ulm, black forest :o , yet another nation I have very few experience with (I'm not used to forging a whole lot), but its pretty fun overall. We could also do another map if we don't get 2 water nations again.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 22, 2012, 10:01:33 am

I have set up a poll. Due to some earlier sheanigans with polls it says that you can chose three options. Please be clear about your choice by selecting just one.

Also, could the non-players please don't vote?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 22, 2012, 03:11:31 pm

... why do we have 7 votes? Which non-player(s) voted? C'mon guys...

Edit: oh wait, someone just voted twice. Hrm. Either way it looks like we're restarting. I might take this opportunity to bow out now that I think about it; my schedule's starting to look less open than it did when we started the first time.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Simmura McCrea on March 22, 2012, 03:49:02 pm

Dominions 3 is about £35 at the moment, and having read this (http://lparchive.org/Dominions-3/), I'm kinda interested. Is the single player any good, or is it all the multiplayer?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Bluerobin on March 22, 2012, 03:54:29 pm

I personally like single player, but it's almost always a stomp if you survive the initial rushes, so it's not particularly deep. All of the same possibilities are still there, but you don't really have to do much past amassing an army to beast the AI most of the time. It's still fun for me to play around with the possibilities though, so your mileage will vary.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Mid game.
Post by: Robespierre on March 23, 2012, 08:54:25 am

It's looks like we are restarting and looking for player.
Il Palazzo - could you change thread's subject?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 23, 2012, 11:02:05 am

From here on, this is the new game


Oh, and by the way, Xaran is not interested in playing anymore, so there's no point in pestering him with messages.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: TempAcc on March 23, 2012, 01:42:22 pm

Sooo, we have Lorak, robespierre, karlito, boksi and myself so far? You could join youself Il P, if you can, we'd just have to do our own fluffy bits :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: Simmura McCrea on March 23, 2012, 02:05:40 pm

Look at me being all crazy and buying the game and offering to join if no-one else wants to.
_{Please don't hurt me.}

EDIT: Holy hell that was the easiest mod install ever.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: Karlito on March 23, 2012, 02:21:54 pm

Yeah, if you want to play and think you can handle the commitment of one turn a day then you should join the game. Try looking at some strategy guides on the wiki (link in OP) and playing a few single player games with different nations to get a feel for it.

And TempAcc, Palazzo still can't play unless robespierre buys his own copy.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: TempAcc on March 23, 2012, 02:40:29 pm

Its not like any of us is a MP pro anyway.

Also @Karlito, yea, forgot about that :x

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: Lorak on March 23, 2012, 06:50:20 pm

Just posting to confirm I'm still available for new game.

Also hi Simmura.  I'm Strumpetplaya on BS12.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - LOOKING FOR A PLAYER
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 24, 2012, 06:22:04 am

The new game has been set up. All the settings remained unchanged from the last one.

The game name is Bay12Round7andaHalf to be found here (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12Round7andaHalf).

Decide on your nations and send pretenders to llama.

@Simmura: seeing how you're new to the game, or at least MP, please read the information on the first page of this thread regarding how to proceed.
Also, if you ever have any questions about the game, what to do, how to play etc. feel free to shoot me a PM.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Simmura McCrea on March 24, 2012, 06:48:49 am

Decided to go with Man, Tower of Chelms. I'll put together a pretender and email it to the llama.

Also, hai Strumpet.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Boksi on March 24, 2012, 08:04:46 am

Well, I'm playing Patala again. Dagmar Önnur has slightly less magic, but better scales, or at least I hope they're better. Also, she eats babies.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Karlito on March 24, 2012, 10:17:41 am

Mictlan again for me. At least this saves me the trouble of renaming my guy when he breaks free. Turns out there were already Tlaloc (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Summon_Tlaloque) in the game.

And Chelms has those nasty longbow men right? Good thing I have plans for that this time.  :D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: TempAcc on March 24, 2012, 11:54:24 am

Ulm: Black forest for me I guess.
Are we playing the same map? Might not be good to do so considering we have one less water nation now.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 24, 2012, 12:00:24 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 24, 2012, 11:54:24 am

Ulm: Black forest for me I guess.
Are we playing the same map? Might not be good to do so considering we have one less water nation now.

I disagree. The last game had R'lyeh rather on the disadvantage considering the number of underwater provinces vs the number of water-capable nations. Your choice of Ulm should even the odds.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Robespierre on March 24, 2012, 01:53:46 pm

I will take Dreamlands again.
There is ~15 provinces per player and 10 sea provinces so I think one water nation shouldn't be a problem.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Lorak on March 24, 2012, 02:29:43 pm

I'm going to be Midgard.  Working on my pretender now.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Karlito on March 24, 2012, 03:12:13 pm

Ok everyone's in. Let's GOOOOOOOOO! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzpWJx3I2DY&t=0m15s)


With all the feathers and jaguar spots I bet Mictlan could put together a halfway decent glam rock act. Are there any spells in the game that summon glitter?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: TempAcc on March 24, 2012, 03:34:43 pm

Glam rock mictlan, meet black metal Ulm. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deioB1SOcp4&feature=related)

Get it? C:

We should now name our commanders after glam rock and black metal stars.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven-and-a-half - Waiting for pretenders.
Post by: Robespierre on March 24, 2012, 04:02:16 pm

Let the Madness begin! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ut82TDjciSg)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 24, 2012, 04:15:04 pm

I thought Ulm had lost the power of METAL in the late age.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on March 24, 2012, 04:18:23 pm

You know, if the previous game had gone on a little longer, I would have summoned a Kinnara (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Kinnara) and made it my new prophet after SKULLCRUSHER THE FELL AND TERRIBLE caught a fatal case of retardity. And I would have named that Kinnara Boney M. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EjLWh2150I) And if I had gotten a Rudra (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Rudra), I would've named it Disco Inferno.

And of course, there's the demons from Lanka to consider too. I would've named them after punk bands, artists and songs, since disco and punk were the two competing styles back then.

And you know, I'm still playing Patala. So I'm calling dibs on punk and disco names.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on March 24, 2012, 04:30:26 pm

Quote from: Karlito on March 24, 2012, 04:15:04 pm

I thought Ulm had lost the power of METAL in the late age.

But gained a taste for virginal blood and evil gods, making it even moar kvlt

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on March 25, 2012, 09:08:07 am

Hah, I forgot to check people's pretenders last turn. Simmura the Afterthought :P I didn't even know that was a possible title.

I'm just going to post some thoughts on the various pretender titles:

Man: Titles imply nature and astral magic. Simmura is female.
Ulm: Titles imply blood magic.
Mictlan: Titles imply fire and blood magic. Or maybe death.
Midgård: Title implies water magic. Name implies dormancy/imprisonment, and indeed their dominion is lower than anybody save Mictlan.
Patala: Titles imply astral and blood magic. Dagmar Önnur is female. Research graph implies rainbow magery.
R'lyeh: Titles imply earth and water magic. Research graph implies rainbow magery.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 25, 2012, 11:38:59 am

Additionally the lack of research from anyone but Patala and R'lyeh hints that they're the only ones with an awake pretender. I suppose Man or Ulm could simply not have had their Pretender research this turn, either through negligence or to play mind games with me, but that seems a little unlikely. Man only has six pretender chassis that are female, three human spellcasters, two titans, and the Great Mother. Two of those have stealth and glamour, which would be unpleasant. I believe they can take Drain 3 with almost no penalty, so maybe their god is dormant to get extra points for scales. It would be hard, but doable with those points to put astral magic on one of the nonhumanoids, but when you consider that one would also want some points in death for the national summons, it's probably one of the human chassis. It's not unheard of to have a dormant rainbow mage, or maybe she has higher paths to give a bless to the wardens.

Obviously, this is a whole lot more speculative than what Boksi posted, and since Simmura is new he might have done something weird.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on March 25, 2012, 02:36:07 pm

If we end up doing round eight this year, we could use this pretty map (http://www.llamaserver.net/wolfsbane/Shadowshore.zip)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/3sJ2t.jpg)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Ahra on March 25, 2012, 02:41:26 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 25, 2012, 02:36:07 pm

If we end up doing round eight this year, we could use this pretty map (http://www.llamaserver.net/wolfsbane/Shadowshore.zip)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/3sJ2t.jpg)

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3460217&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3460217&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Simmura McCrea on March 25, 2012, 04:02:02 pm

Quote from: Karlito on March 25, 2012, 11:38:59 am

since Simmura is new he might have done something weird.

I have no idea what I'm doing! :D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 25, 2012, 04:29:08 pm

Quote from: Simmura McCrea on March 25, 2012, 04:02:02 pm

I have no idea what I'm doing! :D

I suspect that's true to some degree for all of us, so you'll do alright.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on March 25, 2012, 04:47:44 pm

I'm not sure about the viability of this game, suddenly. I mean, I don't mind failing to capture a province. That's entirely my fault, you know. But look at this:
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1334/domwtf.png)
My fort is in the same position as last time, but now I share my cap circle with R'lyeh's cap circle.Whichever one of us gets Ultima Delca is one turn away from the other's capital.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 25, 2012, 04:53:05 pm

The most interesting thing about that picture is learning that river doesn't provide underwater access. And a thought: posting that image certainly isn't in your best interests.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Lorak on March 25, 2012, 05:01:59 pm

Boksi, you're not the only one that is two provinces away from R'lyeh.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 25, 2012, 05:31:47 pm

That was my situation last game Boksi. Gotta keep your dominion up or all of your troops will go insane! :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on March 25, 2012, 06:03:42 pm

Crap, forgot to rename my prophet properly before turning him into one :C

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Lorak on March 26, 2012, 06:51:53 am

I hate to ask for an extension already, but I am currently not home and I'm not sure if I will be home in time to do my turn, so I would like to request a 12 hour extension just to make sure.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on March 26, 2012, 07:58:54 am

Quote from: Lorak on March 26, 2012, 06:51:53 am

I hate to ask for an extension already, but I am currently not home and I'm not sure if I will be home in time to do my turn, so I would like to request a 12 hour extension just to make sure.

I'll grant you the extension this time.
Please, try to be more mindful of the 24h limit in the future. Constant extensions is one of the things that contributed to killing many of our previous games.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 26, 2012, 05:25:36 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 25, 2012, 02:36:07 pm

If we end up doing round eight this year, we could use this pretty map (http://www.llamaserver.net/wolfsbane/Shadowshore.zip)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/3sJ2t.jpg)

No, round 8 will be with this map:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/IJB5R.jpg) (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=40743)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Lorak on March 26, 2012, 06:59:06 pm

I stopped being stupid and went to get my computer so I can take my turns while I'm gone.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 28, 2012, 08:23:53 am

Being next to Ryle'h is a curse in basically any age and for most races (Argatha for example can do little but bend over and take it) and you might wanna seek a diplomatic solution there. Then again, bandar log does have a few more options for the issue then most races.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on March 28, 2012, 09:55:18 am

Hopefuly r'lyeh's pretender dominion isn't too high or it can dominion kill you pretty fast, too.

Anyway, we could give each player an extension per week, so it can be used in emergencies but not abused.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on March 28, 2012, 12:28:46 pm

Quote from: ThtblovesDF on March 28, 2012, 08:23:53 am

Being next to Ryle'h is a curse in basically any age and for most races (Argatha for example can do little but bend over and take it) and you might wanna seek a diplomatic solution there. Then again, bandar log does have a few more options for the issue then most races.

Yeah, I do have a few more options. Sacred, amphibious options.

Quote from: TempAcc on March 28, 2012, 09:55:18 am

Hopefuly r'lyeh's pretender dominion isn't too high or it can dominion kill you pretty fast, too.

Anyway, we could give each player an extension per week, so it can be used in emergencies but not abused.

I'm pretty sure R'lyeh's dominion is pretty high. He might even have it as high as 10. Furthermore, going by the score charts, he has 29 research and got that all in one turn. Therefore, I'm pretty sure his pretender's magical paths make a total of 22 picks(archmage has a significant research bonus). Also, he has rather bad scales.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Bluerobin on March 28, 2012, 12:33:38 pm

Yeah last game I think R'lyeh's dominion was fairly strong, but I ended up pushing mine really hard (dom 10 + temples in every province for about half of the duration of the game) and in the end I was overwhelming it pretty badly, so it's definitely not unbeatable. It should actually be relatively easy to stop if you just want to keep it from invading your territory.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the (hopefully) weekly digests from Il Palazzo to see how this game's going. :)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on March 28, 2012, 01:22:57 pm

R'lyeh is also apparently now full of Nazis.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/1lDha.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on March 31, 2012, 08:29:48 pm

I wonder who's the most dangerous nation right now? I'd wager on either Midgård or Mictlan. Midgård is in the top spot for income and has some research going on, while Mictlan has their awesome troops.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Lorak on March 31, 2012, 08:36:47 pm

Did you know you can get more than one hurricane in the same province in the same turn?  I found that out in my capital on the turn where my income totally tanked.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 01, 2012, 05:59:13 am

Well, here it is.
Hopefully next issue will have more content. Right now it is mostly filler material.

Spoiler: The Independents - issue 01 (click to show/hide)

(http://i40.tinypic.com/k37vvr.png)

edit: damn you printing errors!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 01, 2012, 09:47:29 am

Loool, nice. I approve of your age indicating acronym and Varg dedicated column, altough I'm disappointed that the independents call their little feudal society a revolutionary anarcho liberalist utopia. The Ülmmensch state will save them from dangerous ideals.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 01, 2012, 09:54:23 am

I'm dreaming of a dead city
With angles Euclid wouldn't know
That was built strange eons agoooo.
And will soon come up from down below


EDIT: I can't imagine this anarchist rag has too large a subscription base with that ludicrous price.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Neonivek on April 01, 2012, 08:51:36 pm

Half a dozen fresh Fish? As a independent I find the price of that paper to be jouging.

Highway robbery if you ask me.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 01, 2012, 09:20:22 pm

It's a QUALITY paper! And not tainted by bias inherent to the state-run tabloids that you usually depend on for information.The price is not only justified but outright generous!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Lorak on April 03, 2012, 04:13:38 pm

Looks like llamaserver is acting up. :-(

I've submitted my turn twice, and most likely will not be able to submit it again before the deadline, so hopefully when the issue is resolved, my turn won't be lost in the shuffle.  >:D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 03, 2012, 04:15:13 pm

Is llamaserver going crazy lately? I've sent my 2ch file twice now, and it will never actualy receive it. It isn't giving me the wrong turn warning so I assume its the right one, and its also not giving me the notification it does when it receives the file, and the game's page shows that its still waiting for Ulm's file.

I'll try sending it yet again, but if it doesn't work I dunno what to do :I

EDIT: Ninja'd. Yea, its happening to me too.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 03, 2012, 04:16:53 pm

Lorak, if you want to stay on the safe side, email it to me and I'll try sending it again in a few hours if it hasn't gone through. I know mine took a while to process this morning.


EDIT: or probably Il P, if you don't trust me :).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 03, 2012, 04:20:10 pm

Of course we dont trust you, you're Mictlan, you glue feathers to yourselves and pretend you can fly!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 03, 2012, 05:08:44 pm

But they pretend so hard that they actually do fly!

And, yeah, as well intentioned as that offer was, I thought of about 20 ways it would be a bad idea for Lorak to let me receive his turn.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 03, 2012, 05:13:46 pm

It seems to be working now though, both mine and Lorak's files got in.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round Seven - Early game
Post by: Karlito on April 03, 2012, 06:34:33 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on March 18, 2012, 02:48:58 pm

AND SO IT BEGINS

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 03, 2012, 07:02:01 pm

Treachery, daring to try and gang up on my glorious nation.

Das Ulmmensch forces will take care of thee.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 03, 2012, 09:56:45 pm

Once again this year's hot Fall Fashion must-haves are feathers, feathery hats, feathery cloaks, and of course jaguar spots!

Fashion no-nos include black armor, wolf pelts, and pale complexions.

Remember Pretenders, you can't be Pantokrator if you don't look good.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 04, 2012, 01:23:36 pm

You didn't mention moving walls of xenophobic blacksteel led by this guy:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxppsgHa2I1qkrlnro1_500.jpg)
THANK YOU FENRIZ.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 05, 2012, 06:28:58 pm

Dammit, now Ziggy needs to find another drummer.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Boksi on April 05, 2012, 06:39:32 pm

I have no idea how Adhyapyaryagnranayana is still in the Hall of Fame. He's not my prophet, just my starting commander!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Karlito on April 08, 2012, 10:09:12 am

For those of you keeping score at home, here's an interesting thing to look at:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/XuWNA.png) (http://imgur.com/XuWNA)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 08, 2012, 10:23:48 am

:P it was a decent experience for my first time playing LA Ulm in multiplayer, I'll still make sure to be a pain in the ass for the comming of other nations, though.

By the way, I'm on test week atm so my submissions will be a bit inconsistent for the next week and a half, but I probably won't need any extensions, hopefuly.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 08, 2012, 12:03:50 pm

Spoiler: The Indepenents issue 2 (click to show/hide)

(http://i43.tinypic.com/jt2m8h.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Early Game
Post by: Simmura McCrea on April 08, 2012, 01:44:33 pm

I don't think I'll need it, but I'm requesting an extension anyway, just in case.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 10, 2012, 06:27:12 pm

Wow, the fuck, I sent turn 28 normaly yesterday, but I didn't check if llamaserver had received it. Looks like it didn't :S.

I also underestimated the ammount of notes I need to revise, I'm gonna set myself to AI since I have no way of getting back to the game now :P , it was fun though.

Count me in for game eight a few months from now :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Shadowgandor on April 10, 2012, 06:29:56 pm

Why would you not be able to get back into the game after missing a single round?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 10, 2012, 06:57:15 pm

There's no technical problems with that, you'll still get the turns sent to your last email address, but it would be hard to salvage Ulm's position in the game. Plus he's got tests to take.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 11, 2012, 06:25:36 am

Am I missing something here? Ulm still owns 15 provinces and two fortresses, why is he considered a lost cause?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Simmura McCrea on April 11, 2012, 06:27:45 am

He's up against 2 other nations of (I think) fairly similar size.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 11, 2012, 07:26:22 am

I'd probably keep on playing for another few turns if I was in Ulm's position and didn't have real life weighing me down, but it's not like I'd gladly trade places with him at this point. Whatever options he thought he had at the moment didn't seem to be working.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 14, 2012, 01:02:26 pm

Dammit, I'm supposed to have Luck 3, and yet I've been attacked by troglodytes and villains, brigands keep finding more and more ancient ruins and now I've had an earthquake in my fucking capital. No Nagas for me this turn!

And besides gems, which are great, most of my good events have been Markata freespawn. All they do is suck up my money through upkeep and die!

Still, I'm doing pretty okay.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 14, 2012, 02:25:54 pm

Two tests done, 4 to go. Just because I'm not playing doesn't mean I'm not watching the posts, so keep doing the newspaper thing :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 14, 2012, 10:49:11 pm

I wanted to post the Warcraft 3 soundbite, but I couldn't find it, so this is the next best thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ragXpWsAI).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 15, 2012, 08:17:59 am

And just as he does, I get sick. Coincidence? I think so.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 16, 2012, 09:30:25 am

Today's Dominions tip of the day is brought to you by AI Ulm:

Don't use call god if an enemy controls your capital.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 16, 2012, 10:08:44 am

What kind of god did he have, anyway? I'm curious.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 16, 2012, 12:23:29 pm

Fountain of Blood with what looked like just enough magic to summon Vampire Counts.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: TempAcc on April 16, 2012, 04:18:24 pm

I messed up when I sent the god file. I was going to use a slightly improved version of that one with a little more magic paths and a drain scale for something special, but ended up sending the wrong one.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 17, 2012, 05:32:54 pm

Hey, looks like Babby Collector now has the highest amount of kills in the HoF. It's only a matter of time now until he gets the top spot.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 18, 2012, 01:08:48 pm

So, apparently if a commander dies while assaulting a fort the blood slaves he was carrying become units instead of reverting to gems. That's just fantastic.  ::)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 18, 2012, 03:21:09 pm

That's not fantastic. That's hilarious :P

And "congratulations" on being the first to put up a global enchantment, Karlito.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Shadowgandor on April 18, 2012, 03:22:59 pm

Which enchantment was it? Yes I'm kinda following this ^^

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 18, 2012, 03:33:39 pm

The Looming Hell. Kinda useless since my half my territory is still under Ulm's dominion, and not that great to start with, but hey, it's cheap.

EDIT: Oh and look, it got a sneaking Ulmish ranger captain.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 21, 2012, 10:20:31 am

Bump for major development

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/D9Y0m.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 23, 2012, 11:02:24 am

I'm currently posting with an iPad because the battery charger for my laptop is dead. Typing properly on this thing is a bit of a pain, but it's doable.

Anyway, seeing as I can't exactly play Dominions on an iPad, I'd like to request an extension, since I'm not sure I can get a new charger this evening, but should hopefully have one tomorrow.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 23, 2012, 09:21:30 pm

For anyone else following this thread, you might want to know that Shrapnel Games is having a spring sale event and Dominions 3 is a whopping 6 dollars off (http://www.gamersfront.com/store/dominions-3-the-awakening.html). That still makes it stupidly expensive in the world of Steam sales, but this is the best it gets.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 24, 2012, 10:43:25 am

Oh. Looks like the deadline has come and gone and I didn't manage to send in a turn. Is it possible to roll back a turn, or am I just gonna have to deal with it?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 24, 2012, 12:47:06 pm

I can see R'lyeh already sent his new turn in which means he'd have to fiddle a bit with his saves.
Is your playing that turn crucial to you, Boksi?

Also, sorry for missing your extension request - I'm kinda less on the net these days than I used to. Will try to improve, promise.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 24, 2012, 01:52:20 pm

Well, I can survive losing a turn. It's rather troublesome, though, since it sets my plans back a whole turn and means some of my important mages(Dagmar Önnur, Germanbro, Flit Asuno and Dead Guy Sr) aren't doing anything. Worst of all, it means a turn where I'm not recruiting a nagarishi or nagini and those are crucial to me.

How much fiddling are we talking about here, anyway? Just deleting the .2h and .sav file for the current turn?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 24, 2012, 02:21:33 pm

I appologise, it was just easier to ask you whether you could pass this one. I'll do the rollback now.

Here's what you lot ought to do: Nothing.
Only Boksi needs to send his missing turn, those of the rest of you are already there.

Had anybody loaded the 47th turn (Robespierre's Ryleh most certainly), they should make sure to delete the .2h and .trn files that had been generated previously and then process the new turn, to avoid mixing up old and new .2h files.

Once again: Robespierre - make sure you do your turn again, with the new .trn file, and send the new .2h file to the llamaserver.


Failing to do so might result in units and commanders dissapearing and being created out of thin air and other bad stuff.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 24, 2012, 08:05:19 pm

So, just to confirm, I got turn 46 in an email that said the turn was rolled back, but I don't have to redo and submit my orders? Even though the llamaserver has me (and everyone else currently) marked as "waiting for 2h file"?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 25, 2012, 03:49:32 am

Okay, I sent the .2h file. Multiple times, in fact. Each time it's been rejected as having the wrong turn file. The server seems to think it's turn 47, but when I asked for a resend it gave me the .trn file for 46, and when I tried sending a .2h file after having used that .trn file, it rejected that one too. Something is going a bit wrong here, methinks.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 25, 2012, 05:03:58 am

Yes, it seems fucked up. Even the stalling graphs show different turn number than the main page on llamaserver. I've postponed the turn for now, so that we can find a resolution to this problem. There are a few possibilities:

1) let it host without Boksi's turn
 -pros: might be the easiest and the quickest
 -cons: defeats the purpose of the whole rollback and might remain fucked up(i.e.the game might send you all turn 47 files and demand turn 48)

2) rollback again and hope it'll do it properly this time
 -pros: we can do it without outside help
 -cons: there's many ways this could end up worse than it is

3) contact llama
 -pros: the most certain way of fixing the problem
 -cons: I dislike the idea of buggering the man, also might take some time

4) embark on a quest to the shrapnelforums for similar situations and possible solutions
 -pros: might help
 -cons: might not help. Also requires time and willing manpower.

Another possiblility, that I'd like the most to be true, is that Boksi had the files mixed up, somehow. Just make triple and quadruple sure that you're sending the right .2h file. People make mistakes and it'd solve the issue so nicely.

Eh, another reason not to do them rollbacks.

Quote from: Karlito on April 24, 2012, 08:05:19 pm

So, just to confirm, I got turn 46 in an email that said the turn was rolled back, but I don't have to redo and submit my orders? Even though the llamaserver has me (and everyone else currently) marked as "waiting for 2h file"?

That's right. Under normal rollback circumstances at least. Read more about rollbacks here:
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=Bay12Round7andaHalf&action=rollback

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Karlito on April 25, 2012, 07:34:38 am

Alright cool, it was a little confusing that you told us simultaneously to do nothing and to redo our turns, but I understand it now.

As far as option 4 goes, I found some people with a similar issue (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47693&highlight=llamaserver+rollback) (the turn displayed on the game's page was not correct), and the solution was for llamabeast to fix it.

Also I found this thread (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=46966&highlight=llamaserver+rollback), which is basically a page of posts of people talking about how one should never use the rollback function. :D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Boksi on April 25, 2012, 09:15:12 am

I did not know that rollbacks were so buggy :o

I'm gonna try deleting the .2h and .trn file and redoing the entire thing, although I don't know if it'll work.

EDIT: Nope, didn't work.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 25, 2012, 02:02:46 pm

Quote from: Karlito on April 25, 2012, 07:34:38 am

Alright cool, it was a little confusing that you told us simultaneously to do nothing and to redo our turns, but I understand it now.

Yeah, sorry for that. I sometimes get so tangled up in my explanations that they end up confusing people even more. But you already know that, don't you?

O.K. then. I think asking llama might be the only option worth considering.
Does anybody have an account on shrapnelforums or do I need to create one?(this is not me being super-lazy, it's just that I think it might look better if the problem is presented by somebody actually active in the community, rather than a complete outsider)

Also, can I have some extra info?:
Did anybody at all get a new turn file for turn 47 after the rollback was done?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Simmura McCrea on April 25, 2012, 02:06:59 pm

I only have the pre-rollback turn 47.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Robespierre on April 26, 2012, 02:16:16 am

Quote from: Il Palazzo on April 25, 2012, 02:02:46 pm

Did anybody at all get a new turn file for turn 47 after the rollback was done?

Aye, but it was wrong one -> "Problem - 2h for wrong turn number"

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - Mid Game
Post by: Il Palazzo on April 27, 2012, 01:55:27 pm

O.k. I'm going to register there and ask llama for help. Hopefully this won't take more than just a few days.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - MAINTENANCE BREAK
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 03, 2012, 05:08:03 am

An update: It took shrapnel until Tuesday to validate my account, and then it took me another couple of days to notice.
As of today, the information has been posted in the thread found by Karlito, and all that's left is to await response.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - MAINTENANCE BREAK
Post by: Simmura McCrea on May 03, 2012, 05:11:03 am

I got an email about 12 hours until turn processing today. Is that accurate or do I just ignore it?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - MAINTENANCE BREAK
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 03, 2012, 05:18:55 am

Ignore it for now. I'll keep postponing the turn resolution until the problem at hand is solved.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - PROBLEM FIXED STOP BOKSI TO SEND HIS TURN STOP
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 03, 2012, 08:32:25 am

Well, talk about being quick. Lllamabeast was kind enough to fix the turn number problem in almost no time at all.
Now it should be just for Boksi to send in his .2h file for the fateful turn 46 and we should be done.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - PROBLEM FIXED STOP BOKSI TO SEND HIS TURN STOP
Post by: Boksi on May 03, 2012, 10:54:18 am

Hooray!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 03, 2012, 11:31:24 am

Alright, it is on once again. However, the wiki is still down, so I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 03, 2012, 12:00:06 pm

Quote from: Karlito on May 03, 2012, 11:31:24 am

However, the wiki is still down, so I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

Here's another wiki, not as good as the other though: http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Dominions_3:_The_Awakening

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 04, 2012, 09:44:37 am

Yeah, I know about that one. Wayback machine has about half the pages on the main one archived.

Also, can you resend turn 48 or something? I get a "Turn File is Corrupted" message when I try to open it.  :-\

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 04, 2012, 11:02:01 am

Quote from: Karlito on May 04, 2012, 09:44:37 am

Also, can you resend turn 48 or something? I get a "Turn File is Corrupted" message when I try to open it.  :-\

It's done. Just so you know, you can do it yourself. On the game page on llamaserver(link in the first post) there's a "request turn resend" link. The rest should be self-explanatory.

Also, should you ever have any qestions or need some advice that the wikis can't give you, I'll be happy to help to the best of my ability.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 04, 2012, 01:14:25 pm

Let's say I have an E3 mage. If I give him three gems and script him to cast Summon Earthpower-Earthquake, will he actually do so or will he squander one of the gems on Summon Earthpower or something equally stupid?

EDIT: Let's say I have a W1N1 mage with a thistle mace. Does this count as having N2 for gem purposes? Because then I could give him 2 nature gems he could cast foul vapors, using one to boost himself to N3 and the other to actually cast the spell.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 04, 2012, 02:55:05 pm

Quote from: Boksi on May 04, 2012, 01:14:25 pm

Let's say I have an E3 mage. If I give him three gems and script him to cast Summon Earthpower-Earthquake, will he actually do so or will he squander one of the gems on Summon Earthpower or something equally stupid?

You can never be 100% sure with the battle AI, but that should work. The AI uses up gems to boost magic paths only when doing otherwise wouldn't allow to cast the spell in question, or would put the mage unconscious - which is no concern with S.Earthpower's low fatigue cost.

Quote

Let's say I have a W1N1 mage with a thistle mace. Does this count as having N2 for gem purposes? Because then I could give him 2 nature gems he could cast foul vapors, using one to boost himself to N3 and the other to actually cast the spell.

I don't understand what it is that you mean by "gem purposes". Still, item boosters count as another pick in magic for pretty much all purposes, so there.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 04, 2012, 03:04:39 pm

By 'gem purposes' I was referring to how a mage can only use as many gems as he has picks in a path. So "would a N1 mage with a booster be able to use 2 gems in one turn?" is the question I'm asking there.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 04, 2012, 03:19:40 pm

Quote from: Boksi on May 04, 2012, 03:04:39 pm

By 'gem purposes' I was referring to how a mage can only use as many gems as he has picks in a path.

First time I hear about such a rule, to be frank. A link to a source, please?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Bluerobin on May 04, 2012, 03:24:48 pm

I'm pretty sure it's in the manual. Also, yeah I'm still following this. :P

And from the shrapnel forums: "Just to be precise, empowerment, magic items, or booster spells all allow you to use more gems." (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/archive/index.php/t-47136.html)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 04, 2012, 03:32:17 pm

Thanks, good to know.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 05, 2012, 03:35:55 pm

Shit is happening and I can't find the time for another newsletter. :(

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Lorak on May 05, 2012, 04:08:23 pm

Hrmm, yeah.  It appears I somehow pissed off everybody except Man.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Simmura McCrea on May 05, 2012, 04:16:11 pm

Only because I was busy getting tentacle fucked like a Japanese schoolgirl.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 05, 2012, 05:34:23 pm

Quote from: Lorak on May 05, 2012, 04:08:23 pm

Hrmm, yeah.  It appears I somehow pissed off everybody except Man.

To be fair, you attacked me and not the other way around, and on the same turn as I attacked R'lyeh to boot. And me and Karlito are helping each other so we can stab each other in the back later. Basically, this has become the Great War, the War To End All Wars, and if you've studied a bit of history you'd know that just means there's gonna be a second one too.

Damn ponies. I'm gonna need more monkeys for this.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Lorak on May 05, 2012, 05:59:57 pm

Quote from: Boksi on May 05, 2012, 05:34:23 pm

Damn ponies. I'm gonna need more monkeys for this.

-_-

My armies are NOT ponies!!

They're magical horses.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 06, 2012, 10:43:17 am

Quote from: Boksi on May 05, 2012, 05:34:23 pm

And me and Karlito are helping each other so we can stab each other in the back later.

I'm glad we're all on the same page here.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Lorak on May 07, 2012, 01:44:19 am

I would like to request a small extension, like six hours please.  It may not be necessary, just a pre-caution.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 07, 2012, 05:04:10 am

Granted.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 08, 2012, 08:27:58 am

(http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/6715/dom6.png)

Neat.

In other news, Project Kill Anything is making good progress. I'm not going to tell anyone what it is, of course. But until it's ready I'll just havy to rely on giant flaming meteors. I think those are probably the most efficient at killing ponymen and watery tarts.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 08, 2012, 06:47:05 pm

Whatever it is, I'm sure someone will figure out a way to kill it. :)

Say, can anyone explain to me the rules for movement with regards to combat? Is it possible to catch an army that keeps moving to different provinces by moving to the province they're in now or do you have to anticipate their movement? (I know you can do it with magical movement like teleport, but I'm talking about regular movement). If two armies move toward each other on the same turn, which province do they fight in?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 08, 2012, 06:52:51 pm

I'm not sure about the catching, but when two armies move into each other they either:
1 Fight in one province
2 Fight in the other province
3 Pass each other without fighting

It's random which happens, but 3 is very unlikely. Stealth and army size may play into how unlikely it is, though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 08, 2012, 06:58:58 pm

Actually random and not dependent on like the movement points of the army? Hmmm :(.

Well, this next turn will probably hurt and it's my own fault for not paying attention. I really wish that the game would ungroup commanders that you order to move multiple provinces together, when one of them has movement 1 troops under their command. It's probably my only serious UI complaint.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 08, 2012, 07:07:59 pm

If you want to change your orders after you send in a .2h file, you can simply send in a new one, you know. At least, as long as it hasn't hosted already.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 08, 2012, 07:08:58 pm

I know that, the mistake was on last turn's orders.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 09, 2012, 06:34:23 am

Quote from: Karlito on May 08, 2012, 06:47:05 pm

Is it possible to catch an army that keeps moving to different provinces by moving to the province they're in now?

IIRC it's not possible.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 09, 2012, 06:42:31 pm

Quote from: Il Palazzo on May 09, 2012, 06:34:23 am

Quote from: Karlito on May 08, 2012, 06:47:05 pm

Is it possible to catch an army that keeps moving to different provinces by moving to the province they're in now?

IIRC it's not possible.

Alright, that jives with the description of movement in the manual, so it's probably true.

Also I hadn't seen this one before:
(http://i.imgur.com/hLY0T.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Neonivek on May 10, 2012, 02:46:38 am

Goodness being a Independent isn't as easy as it used to be.

I used to get 2 gold peices to the cow... Now Cows are 50.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 11, 2012, 06:41:41 pm

My face when  I forgot to send in my turn:  :'(. My face when I got this turn and nothing bad happened:  :D.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 12, 2012, 02:59:28 pm

One and a half hour left. Karlito still hasn't sent in his turn.

Nothing bad happened last time, but are you going to push your luck?

Well, I'm sure he'll send it on time though~

Quote from: Neonivek on May 10, 2012, 02:46:38 am

Goodness being a Independent isn't as easy as it used to be.

I used to get 2 gold peices to the cow... Now Cows are 50.

Considering that the only independents left are barbarians, villains and troglodytes, that's not strange. Sure, it's tough but that's what you get for being independent in the first place.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 13, 2012, 04:18:46 pm

I live! Damn, I'm pretty upset with myself that I missed those two turns though. Nothing game breaking, but I'll be feeling the effects for a while.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 15, 2012, 01:57:31 pm

I've complained about this before, but I'm having awful luck for a nation with Luck 3 scales. This turn, I finally got my first national hero.

Well, at least I don't have Misfortune 3. That's a terrible pick because it opens up a bunch of extremely nasty events.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Korbac on May 15, 2012, 02:20:50 pm

Quote from: Boksi on May 15, 2012, 01:57:31 pm

I've complained about this before, but I'm having awful luck for a nation with Luck 3 scales. This turn, I finally got my first national hero.

Well, at least I don't have Misfortune 3. That's a terrible pick because it opens up a bunch of extremely nasty events.

And gives you a flat 0% chance of getting your national heroes. It's 3% +- your luck scale, IIRC.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 15, 2012, 03:41:56 pm

Wasn't there some magic/drain involved as well?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 16, 2012, 12:19:11 pm

It is advisable for players who find themselves unlikely to continue playing(meaning Man & Midgard) to set themselves to AI. It is preferable to just letting their turns stall.

Also, I think I'll officially drop the newsletter thingy, as I can't find enough time or inspiration these days.
It'd be nice if the remaining players put all the misinformation, propaganda, and slanders here in the thread instead.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 16, 2012, 12:36:57 pm

I'll start posting my press releases that never got published. This one is quite old, though there haven't been a great many changes since the end of the Ulm War.

Quote from: Karlito on April 09, 2012, 01:35:12 pm

After a siege that lasted through the spring and into the early summer, the forces of Mictlan finally seized the Ruined Keep of Ulm. Backed by the Spiders from Mars, a group of elite Mictlan priests and a horde of fanatical jaguar warriors, Ziggy Stardust, beloved prophet and musician, has sent the metal loving Ulmmensch fleeing for their lives. The Spiders from Mars attribute their success mostly to the gratuitous employment of pyrotechnics both on the field of battle and during their nightly shows.

(http://i.imgur.com/rIEis.png)
Ulmish crowds enjoying the pyrotechnics.

It's been rumored that Ishaahn, the dark God of Ulm himself, has finally faced the music, and after declaring Ziggy the "King of Rock," abdicated his godhood, retiring to the lovely shores of Tartaraus. With this news, the Spiders announced plans to extend their current tour and visit locations around the scenic Ulmmensch countryside despite the death of half the group in a series of unfortunate accidents.

(http://i.imgur.com/9TGG5.png)
Ishaahn at his retirement party.

EDIT: Oh, and I wrote an limerick for the poetry corner.

Quote from: Karlito on April 09, 2012, 11:33:14 pm

There was a bloody fountain called Ishaahn
Who sought to win with sheer Ulmish brawn
But his reliance on scales
Caused his nation to fail
And now he wishes that magic he hadn't forgone

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 18, 2012, 12:11:52 am

I'd like to note that I have no idea how I'm leading on provinces and both gold and gem income.

Well, actually I do, it's because I have more provinces and higer incomes than anybody else. But I have no idea how I managed that with a bunch of monkeys.

Also, Project Kill Anything is nearly finished. I predict its usage upon the hapless besieging army of R'lyeh, who foolishly bear down upon the gates of Ecnaphale. You know how I have national summons with four arms that can cloud trapeze and are all-around tough? Not that I'm implying anything.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 18, 2012, 12:26:08 am

Well, you did happen to get the larger chunk of the land in our partition of continent one, and I've been busy fighting most of R'lyeh's armies since then (and forgetting to send in my turns).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on May 18, 2012, 04:44:38 am

Perhaps it's time to change sides, eh Karlito?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 18, 2012, 09:39:22 am

Honestly, at this point, the most assistance R'lyeh (or anyone else) could offer against Patala is by giving me their gem income. I'm happy with the present arrangement, and as it's going, the coming turns will see the destruction of R'lyeh, Man, and Midgard, and then the real fight can begin.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Simmura McCrea on May 18, 2012, 06:05:45 pm

All right, I'm giving up and going AI. I had fun, though.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 19, 2012, 12:24:53 am

Project Kill Anything is so close, I can almost taste it.

No wait, that's just the sleep deprivation. Still close though. I can start live testing soon. Until I do, I'm putting my hopes on Gundam.

EDIT: How effective are remote attack spells at killing stealthed units sitting on your forts? I know mind hunt can hit stealthed units but that's a bad idea against stealthy astral mages. I gotta get rid of this bastard.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 20, 2012, 06:30:20 pm

Anybody care to post the message?

Don't ask which message, I'm sure you know which one it is. Everybody received it but me. I got a much more boring one, because I'm the one who did it.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 20, 2012, 11:19:49 pm

A dire portent indeed.
(http://i.imgur.com/Tyr9W.png)

Now you need to go back through your email attachments and post mine ;).

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Korbac on May 21, 2012, 04:12:36 pm

A dispel, by any chance? XD

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 22, 2012, 06:20:02 pm

Gundam almost took R'lyeh. Seriously, he killed everything but the freaking PD starspawn, and he might've killed him too if he hadn't picked up a limp in the fight and therefore been able to move fast enough. Maybe I should've put a horror helmet on him. Or picked a chassis that could regenerate.

Bah, who cares. The Gundam was just an experiment.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5319/dom7.png)
I'll go find that looming hell message for you sometime, Karlito.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 22, 2012, 08:56:47 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/W72Fx.png)

Wow, uhhh. What are you going to do with all those gems?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 22, 2012, 09:08:01 pm

Quote from: Karlito on May 22, 2012, 08:56:47 pm

Wow, uhhh. What are you going to do with all those gems?

Beats me! I just like gems!

Worst case scenario, it's ten pearls per turn.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 22, 2012, 09:14:50 pm

So, out of curiosity, is R'lyeh also hitting your capital monthly with evil dreams of insanity? At this rate, Huitzilopochtli will be so spaced out he won't be able to appreciate the world at all once he rules it.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 22, 2012, 09:33:24 pm

That's probably his stealthy ethereal starspawn ghosts. Just patrol for them and kill them. Although they might simply be scripted to cast returning.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 24, 2012, 11:12:56 am

Did you get an identical message Boski?
(http://i.imgur.com/GUX2F.png)

Because as far as I know, I'm the one with the blood-soaked pyramid.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 24, 2012, 01:43:03 pm

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/1058/dom8.png)

But believe me, if I could sacrifice virgins to expand my dominion, I would be doing that right now.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on May 31, 2012, 11:55:01 am

Oh my, this fellow looks interesting, and I have absolutely no idea what he is.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/MmWyK.png)

Since there's only two of us left now (though R'lyeh AI continues to be an annoyance), I'll probably try and post more frequently on things that both Boski and I know about

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on May 31, 2012, 12:20:54 pm

Not sure why I named him Elvis Presley, but the Grendelkin is pretty nice. And he's even better once you put some gear on him, although of course I'm not going to tell you what I put on him. You can check the CBM mod file if you want to know the base stats of the chassis, though.

Come to think of it, maybe I named him Elvis Presley because those scales kind of look like rhinestones. Or maybe it's because he looks like he's elvish.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Korbac on June 01, 2012, 12:04:39 pm

Wait, Il Palazzo actually got taken out? 0_0

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 01, 2012, 05:54:53 pm

No, he was never playing to begin with. R'lyeh is using his copy and you can only have one of each key in a multiplayer game.

And sorry about your gem throne, Boski. I'd have preferred to get rid of that damn Wild Hunt, but the RNG has the most voice in these matters. My long lived and much beloved prophet Ziggy Stardust was killed by the Lord of the Hunt this last turn. And it's a terrible nuisance to be losing a couple blood hunters every turns as well.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on June 03, 2012, 05:07:51 pm

I'm just going to show this now, since I'm sure that astral window was Karlito's.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/91/dom9.png)

Also, I'd like to request an extension. Due to a meetup with my extended family tomorrow I don't think I'll have enough time to finish my turn.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 11, 2012, 06:49:53 pm

The Lord of the Hunt is dead at my hand! The Towers of Chelms will fall this turn and will soon be followed by the dark city of R'lyeh! Do the people of the world have any hope left now that their only hope to defeat the Prince of Suffering is the Eater of Children? Patala's giant monstrosities roam freely through the land, but what darkness is being bred beneath Mictlan's bloodstained pyramids??

Find out next time, when I make a real update!

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: TempAcc on June 15, 2012, 10:07:12 am

So, is this still going? I just hit my college break and have tested some strategies, so any time a new game starts I'll be up for it :P

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Bluerobin on June 15, 2012, 10:10:57 am

I just realized that the endgame summons mod thing was part of CBM in the past couple days (actually it was the Grendelkin what did it), so I'd be up for trying that out in multiplayer in the next match too. I know this one's still going, but we don't really know how it's going. Maybe some map screenshots or something? Even if it's just the whole map with ownership flags so we can get an idea of what it looks like? :D

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Korbac on June 15, 2012, 12:27:47 pm

Quote from: TempAcc on June 15, 2012, 10:07:12 am

So, is this still going? I just hit my college break and have tested some strategies, so any time a new game starts I'll be up for it :P

I am a total rookie, but I'm game at the moment! :)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 15, 2012, 02:12:18 pm

Boski and I have started slugging it out. I'm not sure which of his thugs are supposed to be "Project Kill Everything" and which aren't, but they get banished to hell just the same. I'll probably post some screenshots and writeups later.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on June 15, 2012, 04:09:47 pm

I'd be willing to play in the next round. Robespierre had his share of fun already.
Right now, however, I've some exams to take. I should be free in a forthnight.
If anybody starts a game before I get to it, keep an open spot for old Palazzo.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on June 15, 2012, 04:18:40 pm

Quote from: Karlito on June 15, 2012, 02:12:18 pm

Boski and I have started slugging it out. I'm not sure which of his thugs are supposed to be "Project Kill Everything" and which aren't, but they get banished to hell just the same. I'll probably post some screenshots and writeups later.

The only reason Disco Inferno got sent to the inferno is that the mummified corpse of Major Tom showed up and ruined everything. And even then it took him a long while to banish him, with Disco Inferno almost managing to kill the major first.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5153/dom10.png)
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/771/dom11.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Bluerobin on June 15, 2012, 04:22:17 pm

You guys.
You guys have such awesome names.

Dom3 is pretty great in its unit/spell/civ variety (obvious statement is obvious), but being able to say something like

Quote from: Boksi on June 15, 2012, 04:18:40 pm

The only reason Disco Inferno got sent to the inferno is that the mummified corpse of Major Tom showed up and ruined everything.

makes me love playing and reading about the games.

Edit: also, what WAS Major Tom before he was a mummy? Those are some nice stats.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 15, 2012, 04:39:58 pm

He was my starting commander who managed to survive most the game (so, a tribal king). His heroic trait is "Unequaled Obesity" which gives him a bonus to both hp and strength, and since he's been in the hall of fame since like turn 3, he's had plenty of time to get really fat.

Disco Inferno should have listened to his mother (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMThz7eQ6K0&t=2m47s).

EDIT: Ok, here's the current state of the world:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The map, centered on my empire. Keep in mind that it wraps around in both directions, so the provinces on the very right are also the provinces on the very left, and similarly the provinces at the very top are the provinces at the very bottom. We both control roughly half of each big continent. Man's former lands are in the top left, north and west of the island, and Midgard's former lands are in the bottom left. Mictlan itself is the fort in the bottom right of the picture.
(http://i.imgur.com/XpyyN.png)

This is the same picture, but centered on Patala's Empire. The Jeweled City is the fort near the center of the image, just north of a territory that R'lyeh managed to conquer somehow (though I don't imagine they'll be holding onto it for long). Other than that, the fishheads are only holding onto their Capital province, though their dominion is still significant enough in other places that they might hang on a few more turns. I'll have to see what blood sacrifices can do about that; the seas belong to me now (or they would, if most of my useful aquatic commanders weren't stark raving mad).
(http://i.imgur.com/twt2j.png)

Here are the currently active globals, there used to be five but a spot opened up a few turns ago when I killed the Lord of the Hunt and no one's seen to fill it. Part of Major Tom's high HP in his last appearance comes from the not insignificant boost given by GoH.
(http://i.imgur.com/5jWBS.png)

Lastly, here is the other thug that's been pestering me, besides the late Disco Inferno and Elvis Presley. This is after he spent five turns buffing himself, and I must say, he kills province defense like none other. Those are the Druid's boots by the way, so he recovers like 10 fatigue per turn. You can see that he can fly around the world in a month, but unless it's also magical travel, I definitely can catch the Gingerbread Man.
(http://i.imgur.com/LhScq.png)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Neonivek on June 16, 2012, 12:17:26 am

Just for the people who don't know (namely me) what are those globals?

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Shadowgandor on June 16, 2012, 04:55:16 am

Gift of health improves the health of all creatures in all regions (under influence of the dominion of the caster?). Basically, units get more HP, live longer and population growth increases.
The looming hell, I'm not sure off. I think it increases unrest in enemy regions but again, I'm not sure.
Eternal Pyre gives fire gems each month, I think and Well of Misery decreases death in the entire world and distills this into death gems.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on June 16, 2012, 06:34:45 am

Quote from: Neonivek on June 16, 2012, 12:17:26 am

Just for the people who don't know (namely me) what are those globals?

The wiki is back online, so here are the descriptions:

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Gift_of_Health
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/The_Looming_Hell
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Eternal_Pyre
http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Well_of_Misery

(note: the actual ritual costs and numerical effects might be a bit different in this version of the mod they're using. The qualitative descriptions are the same, I believe.)

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 16, 2012, 04:52:04 pm

"Run run as fast as you can, you can't catch me, I'm the Gingerbread Man!" the four-armed freak taunted, as it butchered the last of the province's brave defenders. However, the cookie-thing's victory was short lived. A shadow passed across the sun and the ground shook. He could not get away. He could not get out. From a distance he could hear the sound of his swiftly approaching death. Drums in the deep.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZWwmF.png)
The initial confrontation.
(http://i.imgur.com/e6Uuv.png)
And two rounds later.
(http://i.imgur.com/PyHWD.png)

Beware Patala, they are coming.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on June 16, 2012, 05:44:15 pm

Heh, you even gave him the Ember.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 16, 2012, 11:56:06 pm

I'm pretty pleased with the Ember, but the rest of his gear is kind of a mess. Crystal Heart and the Aegis are overkill, and he lost his reinvigoration when I gave him the Teleporty Boots. Plus I thought I'd be able to heal the chest wound, but apparently afflictions can't be healed at all if they're caused by items. He'll need some revising if he's going to be the King.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Bluerobin on June 17, 2012, 12:12:30 am

You can heal it if you get rid of the crystal heart first. I don't remember how to do that part, but y'know.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on June 18, 2012, 01:41:48 pm

OK, so I'm a little late in turning my turn in. As it turns out, I discovered a Civ4 mod called Caveman2Cosmos and tried it out. I took a few turns, and a few turns more, and then it was suddenly morning. I figured it was pointless to go to sleep in the morning, so I took a few more turns. And now I'm almost asleep because I've been playing the game for, uh, a long time, not exactly sure how long, although I did take breaks to eat and drink and such. I'm probably too sleepy to strategize properly now. At the very least, I'm too tired to spell properly, not that you'd notice because spellchecker function is great.

Quad duskdaggers...

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 19, 2012, 05:54:37 pm

Strategize? I don't know the meaning of the word. (Seriously, I probably haven't thought more than two turns ahead since the conquest of Ulm). Maybe that's why you're winning.

I'm not really sure quad duskdaggers would be worth it. An armor piercing firebrand would probably be more effective, unless of course your opponent had some 27 protection monstrosity flying around ;D.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 20, 2012, 09:52:21 pm

I'm sure the double post will be forgiven, since I have an actual update.

Spoiler: A Grand Patalan Victory (click to show/hide)

(http://i.imgur.com/Hu1vn.jpg)
A massive army of monkeys menaces the walls of a Mictlan Citadel, threatening our very way of life. Can we allow our slaves to be carried off into freedom and our virgin blood sacrifices defiled by these apes? I say no! But who among us is brave enough to save the people of Mictlan from the lack of atrocities that surely await them?

(http://i.imgur.com/u0cFb.png)
Born from the ashes of occupied Ulm, it's the Vampire Defense Force! Consisting solely of Ulmensch "volunteers" these brave and loyal soldiers will defend the homeland and its people from any potential liberators.

(http://i.imgur.com/blLo1.jpg)
Let by the dashing Captain Probably-Is-Going-To-Get-A-Better-Name-Soon, the VDF will fly into an enemy army, die valiantly on their sticks, and then rise again to fight another day. Let's see them in action, folks.

(http://i.imgur.com/b44x5.png)
The vampires close with the small stupid monkeys. These rascals are pretty hard to hit, so it's possible that even the brave soldiers of the VDF would have had trouble killing them all. Fortunately, the Patalan communion artillery lends a helping hand.

(http://i.imgur.com/ibc2k.png)
Oh, and the cloud of death spam from our Dashing Captain probably helped a bit too.

Sadly the VDF, cut to pieces by Patalan artillery, were unable to break the Vanara line at the end of the day, and the siege continues.
(http://i.imgur.com/yHVo5.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/5MsSu.png)
Yes, this certainly was a Grand Patalan victory that even King Pyrrhus would be proud of.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on June 20, 2012, 10:01:21 pm

Don't forget that I staled out and didn't refresh their gems, so I'm pretty sure some key buffs didn't go off.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on June 20, 2012, 10:05:49 pm

Well really the fact that I didn't get any of your mages (not even a lousy communion slave!) makes it a lot less significant than my propaganda piece might indicate.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Boksi on June 22, 2012, 02:48:02 am

So I'll be leaving soon and won't return until sunday evening, and I don't think I'll be able to finish my turn before that. Still, I wanted to post this.

This gmae will end eventually, and perhaps we'll play another one. I'd like to play an early era game. If we go with CBM, I'd like to play Ermor. I'd have actually decent troops rather than monkeys, as well as awesome mages.

But CBM isn't the only mod on the market. There's also:

• The Awesome Mods: AwesomeGods, AwesomeItems, AwesomeEndgame. These don't do anything to nations, so there's a lot of imbalance there still, but each mod makes major changes to whatever it changes. Its goal is to make everything interesting and worthwhile.
• Dominions Enhanced: Another mod that does major changes. Haven't played it much, but it seems interesting. It's a fairly recent mod, and so far it only covers early and middle era nations.
• Forbidden Friendship: Some sort of horrible chimeraic beast composed of CBM, AwesomeGods and AwesomeEndgame.

Notably, I've been playing around with EA Agartha in Dominions Enhanced and having a lot of fun with it. Thy've got mindblasting olms as troops and the Risen Oracle is a semi-rainbow.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Bluerobin on June 24, 2012, 05:17:47 pm

I'd totally be up to try out some of the goon mods. Dominions Enhanced looks like it could be a lot of fun if people want something a bit removed from CBM, but if we wanted to stay a bit closer to comfortable I'd be up for Forbidden Friendship or AwesomeGods/Endgame.

Edit: Hmm, Dominions Enhanced isn't as different as I thought, but I really like the feel of MA Caelum now. It was the first nation I played and got a handle on, but Dominions Enhanced makes me actually feel like it's worth making all of the recruitable units instead of having clouds of gnats, archers, and mammoths.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Il Palazzo on June 25, 2012, 07:57:38 am

I've set up the next round here:http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112126.0
Anybody wanting to join and talk about the setup should go there.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on July 07, 2012, 05:13:20 pm

So, Boksi didn't want to play anymore, so I guess I'm declaring this game finished  since I don't really want to play against the AI. I suppose that makes me the winner by default, even though I think I was losing the opening stages of our war.

If there's interest, I can put up some closing screenshots or something, otherwise this topic can just sink.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: TempAcc on July 07, 2012, 06:02:06 pm

Uh
Okies then. I'll join the next round.

Title: Re: Dominions 3 PBEM - Round 7.5 - BACK IN ACTION
Post by: Karlito on July 07, 2012, 06:03:09 pm

You already did.  ???