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Dwarf Fortress => DF Gameplay Questions => Topic started by: Tacit_Exit on August 05, 2007, 06:45:00 am

Title: Bridge Safety
Post by: Tacit_Exit on August 05, 2007, 06:45:00 am
How can I stop/reduce drownings during cave river flooding when my guys are crossing the bridge at a bad time?

Would a wider bridge help?

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Haedrian on August 05, 2007, 06:48:00 am
Dwarves will walk in random spaces when theyre in the water.

Put bridges further downstream from yours, so if they DO fall, they have a better chance of walking on dry land.

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Core Xii on August 05, 2007, 08:10:00 am
That's inefficient. You only need 3 bridges to make one that's perfectly safe.
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What you do is that. Build two drawbridges on the sides of the main one, link them to a lever, and pull it. You can remove the lever afterwards. The arrows show which way they should raise.

[ August 05, 2007: Message edited by: Core Xii ]

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Tacit_Exit on August 05, 2007, 09:04:00 am
Omg DUDE! That is the sweetest thing.

My dwarves will carve engravings in your honour  :)

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Ravendas on August 05, 2007, 09:57:00 am
Yeah thats the classic safety bridge. I have yet to make one, I just do the extra catch bridges farther down. Since I installed those I haven't had an accidental drowning.

Also, my main bridge is like 7 wide. A 3wide main bridge with 2wide bridges flanking it.

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: ColonelTEE3 on August 05, 2007, 04:11:00 pm
I tried making a bridge that raises up and i connected a lever to it and pulled it but it wouldnt stop the water.
Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Core Xii on August 05, 2007, 05:52:00 pm
It doesn't stop the water. But it doesn't need to, the natural flood is ankle-deep. The point is that your dwarfs don't get pushed into the actual river by it, where they can actually drown.
Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: ColonelTEE3 on August 06, 2007, 01:27:00 am
Oh, well then thats a problem because ive already filled half the river with bridges soooo... pretty much either i destroy all these bridges and risk some dwarves drowning or hope the floods dont push them off and risk some dwarves drowning :O
Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Eagle of Fire on August 06, 2007, 01:57:00 am
I hardly ever have dwarves drowning (I have the odd fisherman once in a while), and all I do is build one tile wide "safety" bridges at the very end of my nile farms on both ways.

It's like elephants... I have those on my map and it's the first time I see them... What's the problem? They are very friendly, I have way more problem with those goblins and vile blendec...

Enough to wonder, sometime, what the fuss is all about and if it's really a problem in the first place. O_o

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Deathworks on August 06, 2007, 06:41:00 am
Hi!

I can only say, do not underestimate the seasonal flooding. One of my metalsmiths decided that the seasonal flooding was just the right time to work in the mill. Well, I thought, the seasonal flooding is not that strong, and even if he gets dragged out, he could swim back.

Well, he might have made it, if he hadn't been determined to swim upstream and away from the mill ... (^_^;;

Deathworks

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Shades on August 06, 2007, 08:39:00 am
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Originally posted by Core Xii:
<STRONG>That's inefficient. You only need 3 bridges to make one that's perfectly safe.
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What you do is that. Build two drawbridges on the sides of the main one, link them to a lever, and pull it. You can remove the lever afterwards. The arrows show which way they should raise.

[ August 05, 2007: Message edited by: Core Xii ]</STRONG>


Doesn't an aqueduct achieve the same thing? the side bits look solid enough anyway, I haven't build one more than three wide so I don't know if that would be a problem. Just a thought though  :)

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Ravendas on August 06, 2007, 08:41:00 am
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Originally posted by Ben:
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Doesn't an aqueduct achieve the same thing? the side bits look solid enough anyway, I haven't build one more than three wide so I don't know if that would be a problem. Just a thought though   :)</STRONG>


Dwarves can walk through aquaducts? Or are you saying use aquaducts as the 'rails'?

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Tacit_Exit on August 06, 2007, 09:03:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Eagle of Fire:
<STRONG>I hardly ever have dwarves drowning. . .Enough to wonder, sometime, what the fuss is all about and if it's really a problem in the first place. O_o</STRONG>

This post was prompted by a seasonal flood drowning three of my original highly skilled dwarves and a beloved mule  :(

On my double river I now have safety bridges (ty Core),catcher bridges (ty Haedrian) and a 'beware of floods' sign installed  ;)

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Shades on August 06, 2007, 11:51:00 am
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Originally posted by Ravendas:
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Dwarves can walk through aquaducts? Or are you saying use aquaducts as the 'rails'?</STRONG>


The first one  :) They treat the bit where the liquid goes as floor, and as liquid doesn't seem to spill over the sides I figure they'll be safe from being washed off.

I'll have to give it a go sometime.

[ August 06, 2007: Message edited by: Ben ]

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Dryn on August 06, 2007, 09:37:00 pm
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Originally posted by Ravendas:
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Dwarves can walk through aquaducts? Or are you saying use aquaducts as the 'rails'?</STRONG>


Haven't tried it as a flood safety device but Dwarves can use them as bridges. I have even seen them walk on the 'walls' of the aquaduct.

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Deathworks on August 14, 2007, 12:14:00 pm
Hi!

Maybe I should have tried to do some of that bridge safety stuff. I just had a dwarf swept of the bridge and drowned in the seasonal flood of the underground river. (I wish the dwarf would have let go of that heavy dark stone he was carrying at the time ... )

Just to make matters worth, the dwarf was obviously wearing something made of masterful cloth, so now my legendary weaver has begun tantrumming ... (^_^;;

Anyhow, when I first learned the ropes of the game, I did indeed prefer aquaeducts over channels because they seemed much safer and easier to handle. I am wondering, wouldn't it be possible to have them replace channels completely?

Deathworks

Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Core Xii on August 14, 2007, 01:18:00 pm
An aqueduct is exactly like a bridge, except with a channel running in the center. So no, that won't work, you'd still need guardrails.
Title: Re: Bridge Safety
Post by: Asehujiko on August 14, 2007, 02:18:00 pm
They are getting reworked in the next version anyway.