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Title: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Crypt Worlds Pg. 13) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 30, 2012, 10:10:53 pm
Yume Nikki (Literally translated as "Dream Diary") is a horror(horror may be kind've stretching it, but creepy didn't sound right)/surrealist game, made by an enigamtic japanese person that goes by the internet handle Kikiyama, (That is literally about all anyone knows about him) that follows the life and more prominently, dreams, of a girl named Madotsuki (Translated as "Window", but not in the glass window sense. Think like, the aperture in a camera, or the little slot in an envelop where you can see the reciever.), who has, by and large become entirely socially detatched from the outside world, to the point where she refuses to leave her room/apartment/whatever it is. So, instead, she dreams.

Unfortunatly saying much else would be detracting from the game itself. I will say, the game is primarily about EXPLORATION. There's only one "enemy" and it can't kill you so much as just set you back a little bit. So don't play this game if you're not big on exploration. The game has a magnificent ambient soundtrack, so I reccomend leaving the volume up. On top of this, try to play it in it's default fullscreen mode. It'll help. The game should work fine on modern windows OSes, I can't speak for mac or linux.

There are some screnshots on the screenshot page of the homepage. (http://www3.nns.ne.jp/pri/tk-mto/screen.html) Don't try to leave that page, due to how I linked it the frame on the left is gone and you can't. Besides, an english translation of the game will be posted later in the post.

Namely here. Use the mediafire link, the fansite's link for the translation is no longer working. It's at the bottom of the article. (http://www.wastedtalent.ca/forum/general/yume-nikki-dream-diary-game)

SO YOU WANT MORE DO YA?! You finished yume nikki and want more games similar to it? Well you're in luck. Here (http://yumenikkifg.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fangames) is a list of fangames based on or around the concept of Yume Nikki. This thing is basically it's own genre. You may not nessacerily find english translations of all of them. Two of them that come highly reccomended are .flow (http://yumenikkifg.wikia.com/wiki/.flow) and Yume 2kki. (http://yumenikkifg.wikia.com/wiki/Yume_2kki) No LP's that I know of of these games. If you do find an LP of them, (make sure it's a good one, please, pretty much anything with people talking over the sound is out) please let me know and I will be happy to post it.

Incidentally if you aren't willing to buzz around the wiki for forever for new bizzare things, take a look at the last page. This thread isn't terribly active and I'm most of the posts in it, but if I post after a long period of inactivity it's because I've found a new trippy, potentially horrifying thing.

Sooo yeah. Have a look around, NEW SPOILER RULES: Discussing the backgrounds/trippy shit is fine. Discussing minor NPCs is fine. Discussing interactions with minor NPCs is fine. Names of major NPCs are also fine, as they're typically not terribly descriptive. Interactions with major NPCs are spoiler material. Generally if it is a shock/scary thing/crazy thing, spoiler it. If you're not sure, spoiler it. Bizzare/interesting interactions with minor NPCs are also spoiler material. I highly reccomend trying the game out on your own before you consult the wiki. A large part of this game is discovering all the crazy crap in it, and looking at a wiki really really spoils it.

As a side note, most of the fan content of this game should at least be considered mildly NSFW, usually mild gore, but as always with the internet, creepers have come out of the woodwork too (Although that facet of the internet hasn't hit Yume Nikki terribly hard, comparatively.). If you look for fan stuff be ready for that sorta thing! Although there is some good perfectly SFW fanart, by and large it does not seem to be the majority.

Also, fangames are free to discuss, but again PLEASE LABEL AND TAG THE SPOILERS FOR THEM. PUT THEM IN SEPERATE SPOILER TAGS,
Spoiler: Yume Nikki Spoilers (click to show/hide)
 
Spoiler: .flow Spoilers (click to show/hide)
, AS AN EXAMPLE. This helps keep people from accidentally stumbling on spoilers for a game they didn't want to spoil. All of the rules from the above spoiler rule are in effect.

However, if you just can't stomach the gameplay and are still interested, here is a wonderful LP of it. (http://lparchive.org/Yume-Nikki/)

So with all that said, go nuts.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on August 30, 2012, 10:23:06 pm
I was there when this thread was being dreamed up!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Flying Dice on August 30, 2012, 10:30:46 pm
This is the first game in a while that I've felt motivated enough about to download right off. Looks quite interesting to me.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on August 30, 2012, 10:35:22 pm
Honestly this is one of the few games where I think the letsplay is actually far supperior to the game.

Also this is one of those games that is actually aided by the fact that it will simply never be finished. It had strong hints of gaming features they were planning but never got to.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 30, 2012, 10:40:17 pm
Yep, both true. Certainly don't be shy about watching it if you just can't stand wandering around samey terrain. It's a great game, but at the same time, it can be hard to deal with if you can't keep your attention focused on similar terrain for too long.

Also side note, I don't want to discourage discussion about the game directly, despite the big text in the OP, just be sure to put it in spoiler tags. talk all you like about the plot or whathaveyou, just in spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on August 30, 2012, 11:09:18 pm
So
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Veld on August 31, 2012, 10:58:57 am
Is this thread just for Yume Nikki, or could we discuss the fangames, like .flow here too?

I haven't gotten around to finishing Yume Nikki yet, although I've finished .flow. To me, Yume Nikki just seems a lot less fun than .flow.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Cecilff2 on August 31, 2012, 12:20:22 pm
I have no knowledge of this game.  Nothing with my profile would indicate so.

 ;)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 31, 2012, 04:08:11 pm
Quote from: Veld on August 31, 2012, 10:58:57 am
Is this thread just for Yume Nikki, or could we discuss the fangames, like .flow here too?

I haven't gotten around to finishing Yume Nikki yet, although I've finished .flow. To me, Yume Nikki just seems a lot less fun than .flow.
Having played both, I found .flow to be more enjoyable than Yume Nikki, though both are great. Yume Nikki has a greater emphasis on repetitive exploration, while .flow has a deeper atmosphere. I haven't finished Yume 2kki yet, because it drags on a bit. The wallpapers are entertaining, but I feel as though there's too much walking with too little reward - the worlds are too empty, and the pathways are too convoluted.

Hey, everyone, have some useful links:
Madotsuki's Closet (http://www.theneitherworld.com/yumenikki/) - the best fansite; it has links for downloads, instructions on installation, etc. though some may be outdated.
Yume Wikki (http://yumenikki.wikia.com/wiki/Yume_Nikki_Wiki) - don't go here until you get bored with the game. The game is about the exploration and discovery.
List of fangames (http://yumenikkifg.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Fangames); .flow is my favorite, as I said, and Yume 2kki is also very popular.
Uboachan (http://uboachan.net/) - may be NSFW. Kind of active. Has some useful links, if you look around.

Did I mention I really like Yume Nikki? It and the other two mentioned are my only desktop game shortcuts.

Also, I am one of those who have triumphed and was able to install Yume 2kki, so if you have difficulties I may be able to help.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 31, 2012, 05:15:23 pm
Iiii have not played .flow (didn't know it was even related, might check it out) or yume 2kki (I'm typically kind've warey of fangames based around other games, they rarely seem to go well, and if the installer isn't gonna be cooperative, then that kinda sinks it altogether), but I've got no issues with discussing them. Keep it in spoiler tags though, and maybe label them as yume 2kki and .flow or somethin.

For people that are playin the game, don't be afraid to keep a little journal of what you've seen so far, and maybe impressions on it. It's fun to try and figure this thing out, even if I kind've doubt there's any solid 100% "correct" theory.

And it's fun seeing people's initial reactions to all the crazy crap.

EDIT: Eyy, they both actually look pretty sharp. I might check em both out, if I can get 2kki's installer to work.

EDIT2: ALso, sub note, be sure to seperate game spoilers into seperate spoiler tags. Some people might be interested in 2kki spoilers but not .flow spoilers or nikki spoilers, etc. It'll be easier to keep em straight that way.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on August 31, 2012, 05:48:27 pm
Well I already long since analysed the ending of the game and why it makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 31, 2012, 06:07:25 pm
Feel free to repost it for the thread! In spoiler tags, of course. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 31, 2012, 06:31:26 pm
Double post for people more educated then I on the matter, I just downloaded flow version .10 english (I know there's not a lot of text, but still), but it says "OBSOLETE flow0.10e" etc. Does that mean there's a newer english version out? Am I really missing a lot by using the english version? If there is a newer one, does anyone know where it is?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: frostshotgg on August 31, 2012, 06:43:57 pm
On a scale from Dear Esther to LSD (IE Completely Liner but great story telling vs. Almost no story telling but amazing openness sorta) where does this place?
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on August 31, 2012, 07:05:47 pm
Quote from: frostshotgg on August 31, 2012, 06:43:57 pm
On a scale from Dear Esther to LSD (IE Completely Liner but great story telling vs. Almost no story telling but amazing openness sorta) where does this place?

This game has a story but you have to put it together yourself because the game will tell you NOTHING absolutely nothing.

It is rather tragic assuming that everything isn't just random.

Also I feel like Dear Esther sort of cheats. It doesn't exactly tell you a story... it tells you a story. Essentially it is the equivilant of reading a book while doing some very easy platforming.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 31, 2012, 07:07:56 pm
Full openness, with some areas directly accessible and some accessible through others. Absolutely no storytelling - the atmosphere gives you all of the information, and piecing it together is up to the player.

There is no given story, or single commonly accepted one. There are a few major theories, and countless lesser-known ones.

0.10 is the most recent English patch. Japanese is up to 0.17. I don't know why it says obsolete - mine does too (probably because it's the same source).
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 31, 2012, 07:16:57 pm
Okay, thanks.

And yeah, while there's clearly SOMETHING going on, it's more or less up to the player to decide what the hell is happening. Everything that has been solidly confirmed is in the OP. Namely, the fact that it's a girl of some age, she seems to live in an apartment of some kind, and her name is madotsuki. I'm not even sure if her name is confirmed to be honest. Every other character has their own name, dialogue doesn't exist after the tutorial thing (which is three still images), and from there you wander around in enviroments and try to find "effects" by interacting with the enviroment. There is an ending, and the tutorial tells you how to get there.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 31, 2012, 07:22:19 pm
The protagonist and the effects are all that have defined names. Even the fact that Madotsuki is a girl isn't given in anything but appearance.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 31, 2012, 07:29:46 pm
Very true, and yeah, the effects have given names too, forgot about that, wahahah. I'll prolly end up playing a bit of .flow much later tonight and posting a trip report.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Robosaur on August 31, 2012, 11:02:15 pm
how to have fun with friends

go to a friends house
wait until nighttime
download yume nikki onto their computer and convince them to play it
after a bit of endless wandering, tell them about
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 12:00:41 am
I desperately HOPE the creator doesn't fill in anymore information about the game...

It would destroy a lot of the enjoyment about the game... pretty fast
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 01, 2012, 12:39:58 am
This is an excellent game, though I do understand Neonivek's sentiments. Though I disagree with him. Also, I recommend .flow as the best fangame, though I'll admit to having little experience with the others. Has a bit more plot (for a given definition of plot) a more interesting ending and a much more 'horror' atmosphere.

This is coming from nowhere, but how interested would people be in a series of short 3-D animated movies, depicting parts of the game? It's a project I've wanted to do for a long time, but as I'm not very good at 3-D animation, I've been putting it off until I could build some interest and get someone to model and animate the humanoid things. And maybe help with texturing and atmospheric effects.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 01, 2012, 12:47:22 am
The simplistic nature of the graphics really helps the atmosphere. The feel wouldn't be preserved if you made 3D animations, though you could possibly create a new feel that is as good.

As to the ending, I found Yume Nikki's more interesting than .flow's. Though in .flow,
Spoiler: End credits (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Yume Nikki ending, vague (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 12:50:28 am
So, just played a bit of .flow

.flow/yume nikki spoilers, and a lot of .flow's areas and such. Be warned!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Boop.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 01, 2012, 01:00:13 am
Hehe. I want to explain so much that you don't understand yet, but I won't. Sabitsuki means "covered in rust", according to the wiki pages I've read. The rust mechanic is not activated by collecting effects.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 01:03:18 am
Quote from: TSTwizby on September 01, 2012, 12:39:58 am
This is an excellent game, though I do understand Neonivek's sentiments. Though I disagree with him.

In what way? Do you want the creator himself to explain the story of Yume Nikki?

Because it was pretty well explained...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 01:07:18 am
Quote from: Lectorog on September 01, 2012, 01:00:13 am
Hehe. I want to explain so much that you don't understand yet, but I won't. Sabitsuki means "covered in rust", according to the wiki pages I've read. The rust mechanic is not activated by collecting effects.


Hahaha, yeah, I know the feeling. :P

And yeah, japanese is a very kinda I guess "floaty" language, so that's also a possible take on it. Literal translations aren't always right. Good to know about the rust mechanic too. Hummmm....

And just to get it out there, should debates about whatever means whatever get heated (somehow, B12 is pretty chill I find), try to keep it respectful and respect the spoiler rule. I'm not opposed to theorycrafting, I love doing it in fact, it's the main reason I play (and preferably not let an argument between two things take over the thread either.  :P) these games. And of course at the end of the day agreeing to disagree is fine too.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 01:11:33 am
There is kinda no... one way to interpret the game

Heck even I have come up with several explanations for the ending, some of the abilities, and characters.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 01, 2012, 01:13:52 am
Quote from: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 01:03:18 am
Quote from: TSTwizby on September 01, 2012, 12:39:58 am
This is an excellent game, though I do understand Neonivek's sentiments. Though I disagree with him.

In what way? Do you want the creator himself to explain the story of Yume Nikki?

Because it was pretty well explained...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I meant more about the 'better as an LP than as a game' thing. I like it as a game, though I can see why people would find it boring.

And I disagree with you about the story, except for the insular character bit.

There's no way to determine which interpretation is correct, and that's part of the charm.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 01:15:49 am
Honestly stop that! You keep disagreeing to statements that arn't yes or no. :P

Also what I put in the spoiler isn't really up for debate it is at least the non-interpretable parts. Given the game.

I'll give you a clue for one of them

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 01:32:56 am
I do highly agree with the "no one way to interprete the game" thing. For instance...

Yume nikki ending spoilers, pretty much explains the entire ending
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 01, 2012, 01:55:16 am
Spoiler: Yume Nikki (click to show/hide)
Quote from: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 01:03:18 am
Because it was pretty well explained...
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 02:02:13 am
Quote from: Lectorog on September 01, 2012, 01:55:16 am
Spoiler: Yume Nikki (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Yume Nikki - mine (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 02:11:30 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also I just like calling her Nikki or sometimes even Yume. It is a lot better then trying to call her by her name that never actually appears in the game.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: ToonyMan on September 01, 2012, 02:21:52 am
I do want to try Yume 2kki and .flow at some point.  Both are just sitting on my desktop.  I guess I just want another Ib or Corpse Party or Ao Oni even instead.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 02:30:25 am
I've never played ib, I keep meaning to, never heard of corpse party. But if you're looking for "horror", .flow is a bit better about it, it seems a lot more sinister in general then yume nikki. I still wouldn't call it horror, but I've kind've got a bad scale for these things, never been easily scared by games. So for all I know it's horrifying. Personally seemed more like tension, kinda like yume nikki, except in this case it just really feels like something bad is gonna happen, rather then something wierd is gonna happen, which is the feeling I got out of yume nikki.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 04:19:40 am
I've gone ahead and updated the OP with a link to the list of fangames on the yume nikki fangames wiki, along with links to specifically yume 2kki and .flow. If there are any others you'd like to recommend, lemme know and I'll add direct links to them too, although try to limit it to the really good ones.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 06:35:19 pm
So thread slowed down, figured I'd do a little more .flow so I have an excuse to bump it (and also triple post).

Spoiler: .flow spoilers/yume nikki spoilers (click to show/hide)

Caw.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 06:39:36 pm
I feel like this tread is falling appart due to the reliance on spoilers

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Is

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Every

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Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 06:57:04 pm
Yeah, but the spoilers are fairly necessary to enjoyment, I know when I tried to play yume nikki after the LP, I just kinda stopped after looking around in the surface worlds and went back and watched the LP again. Spoilers really kill the enjoyment of these games.

If the thread moves slowly because people are still playing through the games, then that's fine. I'd just likef or people that are playing through to toss in some input too, I guess.  :P

I'll put some thought into making the spoiler rules a bit less harsh for discussion but I wanna make sure I don't go too far with it.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 06:59:36 pm
Well I'll just do a spoiler warning. It works.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 07:40:59 pm
The thing about a spoiler warning is it accomplishes the same thing as a spoiler tag, except less good. The only downside is you have to click the spoiler tag. I know a lot of people just hate spoiler tags for some reason, and while I never understood why, I've got nothing against it.

SO, new spoiler rules. Talking about the enviroments is okay, that's the main "draw" of the game anyway, minor NPCs are also fine (Like, for instance the little neon animal things in the neon world in yume nikki etc) Mentioning names of major NPCs is okay, as most of the fan given names are recognizable without being terribly descriptive, but anything involving interactions with them (or bizzare interactions for minor NPCs, usually involving other effects) goes into spoiler tags. Effect names and... well, effects, also go into spoiler tags.

Does that sound good?

EDIT: Since nobody spoke up I'm assuming it's fine. If you feel it needs more tweaking then feel free to speak up.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Vattic on September 01, 2012, 08:39:35 pm
Quote from: Neonivek on August 30, 2012, 10:35:22 pm
It had strong hints of gaming features they were planning but never got to.
Colour me interested. Mind expanding on this some?
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 08:40:51 pm
Quote from: Vattic on September 01, 2012, 08:39:35 pm
Quote from: Neonivek on August 30, 2012, 10:35:22 pm
It had strong hints of gaming features they were planning but never got to.
Colour me interested. Mind expanding on this some?

They is money in the game as well as vending machines. The game was likely going to have more RPG elements but they never got around to.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: frostshotgg on September 01, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
After watching a chunk of the LP and seeing how (Or at least one way) the money is acquired... I'm more inclined to say it's a parody of the way money is gotten in other RPGs.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Vattic on September 01, 2012, 08:52:15 pm
I thought you were going to mention how the console menu lets you choose which game to play from a list of one. I figured the money along with how she has HP were mainly artefacts of using RPG maker and fit with the other video game references. They could point towards more I suppose.

Is it right that it's not being updated any more? How do we know the game is unfinished?
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 08:52:38 pm
Quote from: frostshotgg on September 01, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
After watching a chunk of the LP and seeing how (Or at least one way) the money is acquired... I'm more inclined to say it's a parody of the way money is gotten in other RPGs.

Keep watching.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 08:57:15 pm
Yume nikki is unfinished, as the creator has (supposedly) said the game will continue being updated, very slowly. With that said there's still an ending, so it seems complete enough. Maybe he'll end up adding more endings? Who can say.

And yeah, I think the money thing is an RPG parody, although you can use it in one place, for an entirely useless mechanic. :P

Spoiler: Minor yume nikki spoilers (click to show/hide)

Probably didn't deserve a spoiler tag, but eh.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 09:01:12 pm
Just keep playing... trust me....

Or watching.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 10:03:57 pm
I've seen the entire LP, and in fact just recently rewatched it, still nothing coming to mind. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 10:06:15 pm
Quote from: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 10:03:57 pm
I've seen the entire LP, and in fact just recently rewatched it, still nothing coming to mind. :P

Well its the *Spoiler*
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 01, 2012, 10:24:27 pm
Haw haw.  :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: quinnr on September 01, 2012, 10:39:32 pm
SO, after hearing about this from a couple different forums, I finally tried it out. And man, it is amazing. What I imagine LSD (Lovely Sweet Dreams) to be like, if I ever managed to play it. But better.

Here is how I described it to a forum friend:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(Spoilered as per thread rules.)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 02, 2012, 02:35:01 am
Ya'll been doin good with the spoiler rule up to now, just thought I'd say so. More .Flow! Might haveto check out Lovely Sweet Dreams, but it's a console game (for a console that I don't own).  :P

Spoiler: .Flow/Yume Nikki spoilers as usual. Also a lot of text. (click to show/hide)

Hhhuh.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 03, 2012, 12:46:33 am
Yet more flow. I hope people don't mind that I'm doing this, I understand spoilers are kind've restricting to casual discussion, but on the other hand just not using them seems like it's prone to people accidentally reading something they didn't mean to, and whoop, suddenly that part of the game is ruined. Well. Maybe not ruined, but less interesting. And it's not like they're that big of a pain to use.

Anyway.

Spoiler: .flow/yume nikki spoilers. Lotta text. (click to show/hide)

Uhh.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 03, 2012, 01:14:27 am
You can change your menu by talking to the people behind the counter in the school, like the mall in Yume Nikki. The mysterious numbers increase when you pick up effects, but don't have any meaning.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 03, 2012, 01:25:45 am
Ahh, I see. Just gotta find extra ones. That's kinda neat. And I thought I mentioned I knew that the numbers went up when you found effects, but maybe I forgot to.  :P

Pity the numbers aren't building up to anything, though.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Crabnumber on September 03, 2012, 02:42:11 am
Decided i'd give this a go. So far i'm just confused as hell and looking around for the effects, but its been fun doing so anyhow. Been forcing myself not to make the instinctive grab for a walkthrough.  :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 03, 2012, 04:02:15 am
Quote from: Crabnumber on September 03, 2012, 02:42:11 am
Decided i'd give this a go. So far i'm just confused as hell and looking around for the effects, but its been fun doing so anyhow. Been forcing myself not to make the instinctive grab for a walkthrough.  :P


Wahahahah, do not worry, the confusion is universal, you are playing the game the right way.  :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 04, 2012, 12:40:50 am
floooooOOooOOOow

Spoiler: Yume Nikki/Flow spoilers, lotta text (click to show/hide)

Horm.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 04, 2012, 03:39:29 am
Quote from: Neonivek on September 01, 2012, 08:40:51 pm
They is money in the game as well as vending machines. The game was likely going to have more RPG elements but they never got around to.

I'm pretty sure that these things, like health and the levelup thingy were mostly hardcoded into the RPGmaker engine rather than planned elements.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 05, 2012, 12:07:03 am
FloooooOOooOOooOw. Also I do actually have an idea of where to go so, hooray.

Spoiler: Yume Nikki/.flow spoilers. Much text therein. (click to show/hide)

.... :'(
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 05, 2012, 06:40:44 pm
You should enjoy the ending of the game. You've already seen the two best (most traumatizing) events, so don't worry too much about that.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on September 05, 2012, 06:44:36 pm
Quote from: Lectorog on September 05, 2012, 06:40:44 pm
You should enjoy the ending of the game. You've already seen the two best (most traumatizing) events, so don't worry too much about that.

I don't know... the ending in many ways is rather poetic.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 05, 2012, 09:05:55 pm
I got kind of... lucky? with .flow when it comes to the more horrible things and missed most of them on my first playthrough, but I'd say that there's still one horrible thing left, though it might be just me.

Spoiler: Endgame spoilers for .flow (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Even more spoilery spoiler (click to show/hide)

So I guess I disagree with Lectorog a bit.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 05, 2012, 09:07:51 pm
Aww, I was hoping it'd top itself (How, I do not know.). I was totally freaked out and that happens rarely enough that it's a treat. :P

Still very interested in seeing where it goes. This isn't stopping until I'm done with it, no worries.

EDIT: Oh woooo, there's at least more rediculously freaky junk. I'm lookin forward to it, whatever it may be. Maybe you'll even get to see me lose my shit again. :D
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 05, 2012, 11:16:08 pm
And with that, more.

Spoiler: yume nikki/.flow spoilers. Lotta text. (click to show/hide)

murh
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 06, 2012, 03:28:19 am
Spoiler: Question for Seriyu (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 06, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
Spoiler: .flow spoilers (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 06, 2012, 05:11:54 pm
Many find the viscera effect to have a cute animation. Don't you?

I found the end of .flow too enjoyable to be as disturbing as some as the unexpected events that occur. Kind of like how I found Yume Nikki's end to be very satisfying, but many people don't.

I envy you, Seriyu. I started using the wiki when I had about half of the effects. I am not good at exploration.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 06, 2012, 05:59:33 pm
I'd just like to say, making the text perfectly white like that is fine for those of you that can't stand spoiler tags/short spoilers.I just like using the spoiler tags.

Spoiler: .Flow spoilers (click to show/hide)

EDIT: Note, no flow update tonight. Couldn't find out where I needed to be, and it's late. Tomorrow.

Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 07, 2012, 10:40:45 pm
Once more.

Spoiler: Flow/Yume nikki spoilers. Many much text. (click to show/hide)

So yeah. For those of you that've been watching and know the game well, feel free to drop hints. If it gets so bad that I've gone a few updates without reasonable content because I just don't know what to do, I'll probably look up something to get me jump started again. I can and will answer questions in the thread if my own area names have been confusing you.

EDIT: Nevermind, I now know the general area I need to be. Specifics, not so much, so.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 08, 2012, 04:07:58 am
One more flow update because seriously the last one was horrid.

Spoiler: .flow yume nikki spoilers etc (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Let's do the second ending too whynot. (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Second half because I am bad at spoiler tags. (click to show/hide)

Extra stuff tomorrow! There's a few interesting bits I missed that I'd like to explain. Maybe... one interesting bit, actually. I don't promise every little thing in the game, but there's some neat bits. Also the final theorycrafting bit, including my opinion on how the story looks. It's more clear cut then yume nikki, but that's not saying much. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 08, 2012, 01:54:18 pm
Overall, did you enjoy .flow or Yume Nikki more? Just curious, now that you've recently finished one.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 08, 2012, 07:57:06 pm
I'll be covering it more in depth in the final update, but I'll go ahead and give a quick answer here.

Spoiler: Yume nikki/.Flow spoilers (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 09, 2012, 12:14:41 am
So, stuff we missed. Some of this is in versions that have not yet been translated. I'm mostly just summing it up from the wiki.

Spoiler: Yume nikki/.flow spoilers (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Yume Nikki vs Flow, spoilers for both (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: And the final bit, final theorycrafting. Spoilers for .flow. Lotta text too, but I'm sure you theorycrafting types will love it! I put a lot of thought into this. (click to show/hide)

So yeah, I greatly enjoyed flow! And I originally thought I'd take a break for a little bit then work on getting yume 2kki to work, but Iunno I kinda feel up to it. Maybe in the next few days I'll try, I'm on windows 7 though so that makes things complicated, since it doesn't like installing language packs in a way that makes it work. If any of you have pointers on getting it to work, please, PLEASE let me know.

Also I'd live to hear opinions on my theories if you're the type, and have finished the game, it's the best part of all this junk. I know I didn't touch on all of it, some of it is bound to just be "dream stuff", and as such not terribly relevant. But if there's something big you think I missed ,feel free to speak up.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on September 09, 2012, 12:36:35 am
I was there when he complained about having to write that! :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 09, 2012, 01:11:58 am
I wasn't complaining, I was yelling, they're two different things. :D
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: TSTwizby on September 10, 2012, 12:10:35 am
I agree with a lot of what you say with regards to Yume Nikki vs. .flow, but I would say that one other thing that Yume Nikki does better overall is ambiance. This isn't to say that .flow does ambiance poorly, especially in some of the more horrible areas of the game. But its obvious that more effort went into things like the hospital than into things like the cyberspacey area. Yume Nikki on the other hand has very few areas which I would say lack any kind of ambient feeling, even in the less interesting areas like the darkness world, mostly due to how it uses its music. .flow does much more with the horror-elements, and is at its strongest when it uses them, but I'd say that Yume Nikki is better at conveying the dreamlike feel of the world.

Also, while you've talked about Kyuu-Kyuu kun a lot, I'm wondering now what you think about FACE?
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 10, 2012, 03:19:24 am
Thet is a very good point, and I totally overlooked FACE. I think because I saw an LP of yume nikki before I played, but I definitely remember jumping at it. I dunno if EVERYONE would find it REALLY SCARY or anything but it's definitely a case of something being at least mildly scary, and I totally overlooked it.

And I have to admit you're right about the ambience. Some areas of .flow seem just added in for the sake of having another step to get into another area.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 12, 2012, 03:29:35 am
Double post for the sake of double post, I've gotten the files together for yume 2kki installation, I'll probably do something similar as I did with .flow, so look forward to that if I can get it working. (Actually, scratch that, the page for yume 2kki game files is down, that might slow things down a tad) I'll prolly start working on it the day after tomorrow if I can get the files by then.

Also mentioning that if you're just playing through a game the first time, feel free to make a little "diary" like I did. Don't even need pictures, unless you really wanna take em. It's neat to see how people react to various events and such. If we get enough of them I might start documenting them in the OP.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 13, 2012, 04:36:37 pm
Got yume 2kki installed! I'll prolly start doing the same thing I did for .flow for yume 2kki either tomorrow or today.

For people on windows 7 that want it installed, the wiki installation process is wrong, understandably, because you can change the language required for non unicode programs (which is why yume 2kki is so crazy hard to install on vista to begin with). Go to control panel, Clock Language and Region, Region and language. A window pops up, go to administrative. Language for Non Unicode programs, click "Change system LOcale", change it to japanese, and then restart. This won't make the computer display system files and such in japanese, it just tells it to use japanese whenever a file that isn't in unicode shows up. Hope it helps!

Here's hoping it doesn't crash for me too much.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 13, 2012, 10:40:15 pm
Annnd here we are! Hopefully, presuming it doesn't randomly crash or anything.

Spoiler: Yume 2kki spoilers, yume nikki spoilers, maybe .flow spoilers? I doubt it. Lotta text also maybe. (click to show/hide)

Humm.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 14, 2012, 04:45:42 pm
The wallpapers are the best part of Yume 2kki. I would have several of them as my actual computer backgrounds if they weren't so small.
I thought that was an apartment building, not a hotel. I haven't checked the wiki, so I don't know which it is.
When you find the desert, don't go wandering around in it lost. I spent half an hour there, without being lost. I've also walked up and down that beach half a dozen times. Some areas can be time sinks.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 15, 2012, 01:21:18 am
Wahah, yeah might be an apartment now that you mention it, it looks a little.... nice for a hotel. And there might be wallpaper sized wallpapers here. (http://yume2kki.wikia.com/wiki/Downloads) I haven't tried either of the links though, so I could be wrong and it may just be all of the wallpaper images.

Spoiler: Yume 2kki/Yume nikki spoilers, lotta text (click to show/hide)

Neat.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 15, 2012, 09:25:30 am
The wiki hasn't been loading for me lately, but I have both of the wallpaper sets. They're 1600x1200 repaintings of some of the game's wallpapers (one set from normal wallpapers, one from the ones you see on your dream computer). My favorites aren't there, but there are some good ones. Too bad my desktop is 1920x1080. Edit: Using one as my background anyway.

I think I'll restart Yume 2kki soon. I've ended up revisiting the same areas and making no progress, but if I start over I might be inspired to accidentally find new things.
Edit: Restarted, almost immediately found new areas.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 15, 2012, 11:02:40 pm
Wahaha, that's the ticket.  :P

Spoiler: moar yume 2kki/yume nikki spoilers, many text (click to show/hide)

Adorable.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 17, 2012, 12:04:04 am
Onward

Spoiler: Yume nikki/2kki spoilers. Text. (click to show/hide)

Eww.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 18, 2012, 12:09:59 am
And yet more.

Spoiler: Yume nikki/yume 2kki spoilers, text. (click to show/hide)

Lovely.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 19, 2012, 04:24:01 pm
Yeah, Yume 2kki is kind of all over the place. I don't think any theories will really work. It doesn't have a coherent theme like Yume Nikki and .flow. (Though I wouldn't say they have coherent themes; just relatively.)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 19, 2012, 04:26:57 pm
Ain't gonna stop me from tryin! :P

But yeah I'm not counting on any major coherent theme. 
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 19, 2012, 10:58:29 pm
On that note.

Spoiler: yume 2kki/nikki spoilers also texts (click to show/hide)

Awesome.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 21, 2012, 04:25:55 pm
I don't think there are any dinosaurs in this game. I know; I was disappointed too.
I'm envious of how you keep discovering new things. Everything keeps circling around for me. Mostly to the underwater carnival. I must've spent hours there, but I still haven't seen the whole thing.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 21, 2012, 04:43:19 pm
All the advice I can offer is to constantly be going into new areas. Look for anything that looks out of place and then fiddle with it, usually with knife analogue or anything that generally has an effect. Combing a singular area is for later on in the game if you've gotten all the effects and wanna see more stuff. (At least for me.)

EDIT: As a side note probably no update tonight, maybe tomorrow. Torchlight 2 and Space Pirates and Zombies are fun, what can I say.

Although another reminder that if you're playing through the games feel free to do what I'm doin. Interesting to see other peoples' views' on this stuff.

Maybe even some less popular yume nikki fangames.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 23, 2012, 10:33:42 pm
Annnnd we're baaaaack. I had a nasty headache last night and if there's one thing these games aren't good for it's headaches.

Spoiler: Yume nikki/2kki spoilers whoaoaoaoaoaoa, much text (click to show/hide)

bwerrrrrr
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 24, 2012, 04:54:54 pm
Quote
cancerous fish cat
This is great.
In case you're curious, there are basically 3 nexuses in the game.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
What version are you playing? I'm using .097g, but I guess it's up to .098c now or something. I was able to access the wiki yesterday, but I can't now.

By the way, I'm working on a really terrible Yume Nikki (inspired?) roguelike. Really terrible in things like that I worked for six hours yesterday and made virtually no progress. But I'm the first, as far as I know, and it might be done sometime.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 24, 2012, 05:15:57 pm
I am using 0.98b. I'll probably stick with what I've got for now and unless some new super awesome thing like an ending or a new amazing effect is added won't switch it up. And good note on the nexuses, I'll be sure to try to remember where those places are.

And keep it up with the roguelike thing! It'll get to a playable state if you keep at it. I'm interested in how it'll turn out. 
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 24, 2012, 05:30:14 pm
"Playable" is too loose. I can make a "game" in less than an hour, and I'm still a novice. Controlling an @ around the same tiles with no goal isn't fun. But so far I have a "graphics engine" (as much of one as you can have in ASCII) and the support for random map generation. Player movement will be easy to add; I've already done it before the same way. I changed some things and it's not making a map anymore, but it was - I saw the random maps myself. The test was a world full of ice columns and ice/blank floors. I guess I don't understand random number generators either, because even after 2 hours specifically on it, I can't make a random 1,2,3, or 4 myself.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 24, 2012, 11:19:20 pm
And we're off for a new update

Spoiler: yume nikki/2kki spoilers many words (click to show/hide)

Curiouser and Curiouser.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 26, 2012, 11:49:59 pm
Spoiler: Yume nikki/2kki spoilers, textextext (click to show/hide)

Wooooooooo
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 27, 2012, 05:06:44 pm
When I first played the game, the maze
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This topic probably has a total of four people reading it now, by the way. Just a guess, but it seems kind of dead. I'm still enjoying it.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 27, 2012, 08:35:40 pm
Eh, I don't mind. The little journals make for nice maps. And it's only fake in specific parts, it's kinda odd.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 27, 2012, 10:48:27 pm
Once more into the breech and such

Spoiler: Yume 2kki/nikki spoilers, text forever (click to show/hide)

It had to happen sometime.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 29, 2012, 12:32:49 am
So after, last night, hearing a bizzare groaning noise from a source I could not identify, it's time to dip further into madness with yume 2kki. (Seriously though, I think it was a car or something. Pretty sure I'm not going nuts.)

Spoiler: Yume nikki/2kki spoilers txet tol a (click to show/hide)

Like a visit from an old friend.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on September 29, 2012, 01:12:32 am
Man, I was hearing noises too. Sometimes I put earphones in my ears without plugging them into anything and I hear music kinda like the title screen music from Yume Nikki.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 30, 2012, 12:57:24 am
Quote from: SirAaronIII on September 29, 2012, 01:12:32 am
Man, I was hearing noises too. Sometimes I put earphones in my ears without plugging them into anything and I hear music kinda like the title screen music from Yume Nikki.

We're clearly merging with the dream reality.

Also more.

Spoiler: nikki/2kki spoilers text. (click to show/hide)

Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 30, 2012, 11:25:36 pm
Back into the breech. And the lonely road and so on and so forth.

Spoiler: yume nikki/2kki spoilers also textses (click to show/hide)

Nifty.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 01, 2012, 11:15:56 pm
Don't think. Feel and you'll be Tanasinn

Spoiler: Yume 2kki/nikki spoilers text of many kinds (click to show/hide)

Marvelous.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 02, 2012, 11:56:20 pm
I'm running out of prefaces

Spoiler: Yume 2kki/nikki spoilers, textses of many (click to show/hide)

Eyes.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 05, 2012, 12:03:22 am
mmhmm

Spoiler: yume nikki/2kki spoilers lotta text (click to show/hide)

Interesting.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on October 05, 2012, 12:20:39 am
Let me break your 5x Post Combo for a bit just to say
.flow
is scary

really
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 06, 2012, 12:32:20 am
Let the combo begin again.

Spoiler: yume 2kki nikki spoilers textseseses (click to show/hide)

The horror finally reveals itself.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 07, 2012, 01:00:26 am
Smile.

Spoiler: yume nikki/2kki text (click to show/hide)

.mmH
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 08, 2012, 11:35:10 pm
Humm

Spoiler: 2kki/nikki spoilers text (click to show/hide)

Curiouser and Curiouser.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on October 09, 2012, 01:37:26 am
So... does it ever get lonely in here? Just a thought.

To make this post slightly less useless, is there an English translation for 2kki? It shouldn't matter too much but I like knowing what things are. Otherwise I get confused; for example, I thought the whistle effect in .flow was a gag or something, because it was in her mouth, when you used it she made the little >< face, and worst of all, no whistling sound played.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 09, 2012, 02:30:48 am
Not any 2kki english patch, nope. From what I understand it updates so fast that it's fairly futile to try to keep up. There's a higher chance of it happening when development slows down, if it does.

And naw, I've been showing a friend on MSN too, and while I could post it on pastebin or something well then only he would see it and since there's a thread here whynot. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 10, 2012, 01:04:23 am
And more stuff.

Spoiler: nikki/2kki spoilers text (click to show/hide)

Yussss.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on October 10, 2012, 04:39:35 pm
Quote from: Seriyu on October 10, 2012, 01:04:23 am
And more stuff.

Spoiler: nikki/2kki spoilers text (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is a bit of an English translation of the game. No serious efforts, but a few people have done partial translations. If you really want one, there's one here (http://archive.uboachan.net/media/res/17.xhtml), a while down the page. It's not really worth downloading and installing, in my opinion - only a few things are translated.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 10, 2012, 11:24:10 pm
Many things.

Spoiler: yume nikki/2kki spoilers also text (click to show/hide)

Shrines are like circuses in a lot of ways.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 12, 2012, 11:09:00 pm
Spoiler: Yume 2kki/nikki spoilers, text (click to show/hide)

Told you it was short.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 17, 2012, 12:36:26 am
MEGA PROGRESS TODAY

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

YEahhhh. Still several effects. Next time we'll get them and wrap this up.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: freeformschooler on October 17, 2012, 07:56:56 am
Oh man I played Ib oh man.

That game was great. Seriously. No spoilers, though. Anyone who enjoyed YN needs to give it a shot if they haven't already.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 18, 2012, 09:09:44 pm
SirAaron's actually been trying to get me to play ib, and I probably will once I finish up yume 2kki. Prolly won't be keeping a journal as I have been though as it's starting to make things more of a chore then anything. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on October 20, 2012, 07:25:50 pm
I played Ib last night. It was pretty good. Didn't have the horror that the site led me to believe, but it had some good puzzles. Exploration was enjoyable, to the extent that the path was explorable, but the environments weren't terribly interesting. Worth playing, for sure. Only a few hours long, and the story is decent. I had fun. I may play again to get the best ending.

There's not much reason to keep a journal for Ib, as the game is linear. There are choices you can make, but describing everything would only be entertaining for those who don't want to play it or watch it played.

EDIT: Yume 2kki. Spent at least half an hour in the Purple Neon Maze and travelling back to it after I got caught (which happened 4 times). Found that there is nothing there. Don't bother looking.

Dream TV had a nice surprise for me.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 20, 2012, 11:58:45 pm
Haahaahaahahah, wow that's pretty great.

Also more MEGA PROGRESS. TONIGHT, SOMEONE IN THIS ROOM WILL DIE (maybe (presumably))

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

All things come to an end.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on October 21, 2012, 10:02:53 pm
So, stuff we missed.

Spoiler: Spoilers for 2kki/nikki text (click to show/hide)

And so it's over. Not gonna do any journals at least not any soon, so until then this thread is either gonna have to sink or swim. If it's still in a reasonable state by the time I get back to this I might continue posting in it or let it die.

So despite the difficulties with getting the thread off the ground, yume nikki is a wonderful thing that made a bunch of other wonderful things, and I hope decent games of a similar type end up coming out well into the future because they are the best.

Spoiler: ?! (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 10, 2012, 01:07:51 am
So I said I'd let this thread sink or swim and it seems to have mostly sunk, but I'd just like t ogive a shout out to a really neat game "Me". From what little I've played it's shaping up kind've like .flow, and as a result is pretty awesome. Definitely scary so be aware of that.

A link (http://yumenikkifg.wikia.com/wiki/Me) to the wiki page (which has a link to the download). Another note is that IT'S IN ENGLISH and as a result you don't have to jump through flaming hoops to get it running.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 10, 2012, 01:12:11 pm
I was going to post a couple of things from 2kki, but your final post was so good I didn't want to disturb the thread.

Does that game have another web page? I can only access wikia pages sometimes, and now is not one of those times.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on November 10, 2012, 02:52:07 pm
Here's a link to the Uboachan thread. (http://uboachan.net/fg/res/172.html#q172) There's a download link inside.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 10, 2012, 07:05:56 pm
Yep, scroll to the last link in that thread for the most recent version. And yeah feel free to post stuff I missed in 2kki or .flow or whatever, as I know 2kki is a huge game, and I think .flow just recently got an update, if not a huge one.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 11, 2012, 05:05:20 pm
So is .10++fix (http://www.mediafire.com/?5p53j86c34k4164) the latest?

Quote from: Seriyu on November 10, 2012, 07:05:56 pm
I think .flow just recently got an update, if not a huge one.
This is the worst thing.
I have so much trouble deciding whether .flow is worth playing again with each update. I haven't even completed 2kki yet, so it's a question of starting over or not there. I have yet to for either. I have .flow v.17 and Yume 2kki v.097g. So behind.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 11, 2012, 06:50:13 pm
Yep, .10++fix is the most recent! The game is feature complete at that stage too so it shouldn't go into the spiral of eternal updates a lot of these games seem to get trapped in sometimes. Three endings, 6 effects, and 25 "orbs" that you need to get all the endings, like LCD Dem which I haven't played.

Annnnd I don't think the .flow update added a whole ton so don't feel tooooo compelled. I think it just altered some maps a bit, I think .flow is pretty much feature complete too.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 11, 2012, 07:10:58 pm
Started playing Me. Wow. I stopped playing Me. Horror + no clue what's going on. It's pretty amazing.
I already have two puddles of liquid in my room, whatever those mean.
EDIT: Oh man. This game. Thank you for that recommendation.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 12, 2012, 05:46:26 pm
It is wonderful.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 15, 2012, 01:22:19 am
Me theory following, it involves seeing one particular event that involves being rushed by a small rabbit-ey (I think?) thing as soon as you enter a room, and getting to an area filled with chasers. So if you haven't, and you care, steer clear!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on November 15, 2012, 01:30:32 am
Man, Me is pretty seriously disturbing. As one poster on Uboachan put it, "SHIT TYRONE WHAT'S GOING ON".

dayummmm
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 15, 2012, 09:46:29 pm
Yeah. I found an area referred to as The Edge. There's a note there, and it's simultaneously near-unintelligible and quite unsettling. The themes in this game are well-defined, but I don't know what they are.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 16, 2012, 01:15:22 am
Oooh, haven't been there. (I don't think anyway, I never saw anything that mentioned "the edge") I know I've seen a lot of plot being spoken of but it's all fairly simple and not really explaining much besides oooone thing. There's definitely a base to a plot, but how much there is to be extrapolated remains to be seen. Strikes me as kind've like .flow.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 16, 2012, 04:26:02 pm
I found a note about
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Nothing in the game has confused me as much as that. I hope I find further information on that later.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 16, 2012, 05:04:24 pm
Oooh, I have been there, I knew it as "The building of truth". I don't think the game actually names it at any point however, as is tradition. It's definitely a big part of the plot though.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on November 16, 2012, 10:53:18 pm
That was the only thing of note in the building, IIRC. Maybe an orb.
The Edge is Crayon -> Blue Sign -> Pink Hand -> Striped Pole, I think. There's an orb linked from there as well.
I found the red area with the things with the eyes and creepy things rushing you. The one that made me reevaluate my praise of Amnesia's atmosphere. That's a good area.
(Hoping my incredibly vague descriptions aren't spoiling anything for anyone.)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on November 17, 2012, 02:06:58 am
Yeah, you're fine.  :P

Headed there, never saw any (unique looking at least, there are a ton of striped poles) there, so I maaaay not have been there. I know there's another note that says what you mentioned in the spoiler earlier at least. I'll have to keep an eye out. Innnnteresting.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I have been there, didn't know that was the edge. Never saw that note, I'll have to look around for it.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on December 23, 2012, 03:16:57 am
So Seriyu had never seen the Goat Head event thing mentioned on the Yume 2kki wiki on the Underwater Amusement Park page. Just me telling him that it was scary as crap wasn't good enough so I went and took pictures.
Spoiler: The pics and story are in here (click to show/hide)
The goat head is kinda interesting because there's another prominent goat head in the Realistic Beach area, if you go through the barriers in the middle (use Fairy) and go around a bit and then use either Wolf or Glasses, a giant ass goat head will appear on the ceiling. I'll get a picture of that one sometime that isn't now.

Anyway, these goat heads.. there's really only one thing I can think of goat-related and that's Baphomet, demon worshipped by witches in Black Masses and the Templars were accused of worshipping. I dunno, turn the pictures upside down and that goat does look like a demon. That isn't a cheeky lil tongue it's sticking out at you, that's a goddamn third eye. What is this a metaphor for?? Nobody will ever know for sure.

Spoiler: Also the clowns event because I was in the neighborhood (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on December 27, 2012, 09:19:50 pm
Hello yume nikki/yume nikki fangame people, new patch (quite a few actually) out for yume 2kki, that most notably adds some new effects, new areas, new events, and even a new ending for collecting more then 95% of the music.

Probably gettable through the usual channels. IE wiki pages or uboachan.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on February 24, 2013, 01:39:20 am
Hello yet again yume nikki people.

Something is happening. (http://www.yumenikki.net)

It's being done by SurfersParadise which was the place that was making yume nikki merch, soooo maybe physical yume nikki copies? Maybe something else. Very curious.

Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on February 24, 2013, 02:53:36 am
Oh man. Bookmarked, linked on desktop. I will be there. Thank you.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on February 24, 2013, 04:33:49 am
I am very excited, yes.  :D
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on February 28, 2013, 04:15:11 am
It's popped!

Spoiler: What it is (Going off hearsay and google translate so PLEASE TAKE THIS WITH A GRAIN OF SALT, I'll be getting a more professional translation tomorrow sometime) (click to show/hide)

Again, google translate, grain of salt, etc.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on February 28, 2013, 12:50:20 pm
Did it happen early or did I horribly mix up the numbers? I came home from school expecting something 10 minutes from now. Anyway,
Uboachan (http://uboachan.net/gonews.html) says:
Quote
Yume Nikki is announced to be serialized as a web manga, adapted into a light novel, and an Image CD will be written to accompany.

Announcement: http://yumenikki.net/
Translation: http://pastebin.ca/2317750
Discussion: http://uboachan.net/yn/res/1948.html

And a translation from some tumblr (http://nicowaha.tumblr.com/post/44201194449/ok-so-it-has-been-announced-on-yumenikki-net-just):
Quote
Novelization: [Yume Nikki] - Your dream in which I do not exist - (temp) (http://www.freegamenovel.com/yumenikki/)
To be written by Akira (日日日) (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%97%A5%E6%97%A5) also known for writing Kyouran Kazoku Nikki, and to be illustrated by Arisaka Ako (http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=64561).

Web Comic
To be drafted by machigerita (http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%83%9E%E3%83%81%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BFp) and drawn by Tomisawa Hitoshi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitoshi_Tomizawa) also known for his manga works such as Alien 9.

Image Song CD - [Waltz for Yume Nikki]
By yume nikki x machigerita (http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E3%83%9E%E3%83%81%E3%82%B2%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BFp) feat. Aoki Lapis (http://vocaloid.wikia.com/wiki/Aoki_Lapis).

All of which would be pretty cool if I lived in Japan and had money. Which I don't. We shall see, I guess.

EDIT: That Uboachan thread is hard to read.
To be clear, this is pretty cool. It doesn't harm what currently exists, may revive the fanbase a bit, and provides something for some fans that I may eventually get to enjoy. Nothing wrong, really. A bit overhyped on this side of the world, maybe.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on February 28, 2013, 01:29:27 pm
That Yumi (who I will always call Yumi) always having deep psychological issues that somehow fight for attention with her other psychological issues.

Anyhow I am not sure how much you can revive the fanbase of a game where its only message is "Life sucks, just kill yourself" :P

Ohh do I wish that was a joke.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on February 28, 2013, 04:14:49 pm
The ending of a game is usually not the point of it. Yume Nikki is a host of great atmosphere and troubling themes. I can definitely see visual and textual success using it heavily as inspiration.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on February 28, 2013, 05:26:37 pm
Yeah, I'm optimistic, but it's not a sure 100% thing. And while I got the translation from uboachan it was just after it popped so it was a ton of machine translation. And I'm not really sure either, I guess time zone differential had something to do with it.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on February 28, 2013, 06:14:07 pm
Quote from: Lectorog on February 28, 2013, 04:14:49 pm
The ending of a game is usually not the point of it.

It is sort of the underlying themes. Life Sucks there is no hope, just die.

It is the continuous theme.

The game never betrays my assumption and neither will and adaption or continuation.

The point of the games is unraveling everything to know why everything is the way that it is. It isn't a game where you are meant to change or really do anything.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on February 28, 2013, 08:10:58 pm
I thought the point of the game was exploring weird places. The theme was weird dreams. I didn't really read into it any further until the end.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on February 28, 2013, 11:13:24 pm
Quote from: Lectorog on February 28, 2013, 08:10:58 pm
I thought the point of the game was exploring weird places. The theme was weird dreams. I didn't really read into it any further until the end.

Well while I am being intentionally negative, mostly as a way of highlighting the very depressing themes of the game.

The point is mostly to explore the weird places while at the same time trying to discover what it really means.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on March 01, 2013, 01:20:20 am
More info on it now that I got a buddy to do a translation.

First, the CD is an image CD, which for those not familiar with those sorts of things, are songs sung "in character" think like a musical without the video accompanying it. It's to be done by a fairly well known vocaloid uhhhhh user? Artist? I dunno how professional that software is considered. Name is Machigeriita, may be slightly misspelled. Does really creepy stuff so at the very least that should hit the right notes.

So I suppose like every other thing I chime in on, I am cautiously optimistic on all three. It could bomb, but it could also end up pretty good. Arguably it's not "meant" to be experienced like that, but it could be great supplementary material.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on March 22, 2013, 07:24:50 pm
Ib has been updated recently. v1.04 - I had v1.02, for reference.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Max White on March 22, 2013, 07:36:22 pm
Knowing little more than having read half the first post of this thread I'm downloading this game...
Welp, wish me luck!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on March 22, 2013, 08:42:05 pm
Quote from: Lectorog on March 22, 2013, 07:24:50 pm
Ib has been updated recently. v1.04 - I had v1.02, for reference.
Yup, there are 2 new endings and a new area (supposedly). There's also more art in the old places, if you enjoyed that.
Quote from: Max White on March 22, 2013, 07:36:22 pm
Knowing little more than having read half the first post of this thread I'm downloading this game...
Welp, wish me luck!
Good luck! :D
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Neonivek on March 22, 2013, 11:24:14 pm
Wait new endings to Yumi Nikki? because if that is so my interest is extremely peaked.

I mean don't get me wrong I understand the original Yumi Nikki ending, but it was the kind of ending that made you want another one.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on March 22, 2013, 11:29:51 pm
No, new endings to Ib. Yume Nikki will never update ever.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on March 25, 2013, 05:22:37 pm
Yeah, yume nikki is pretty much done. I honestly can't reccomend Yume 2kki and .Flow enough to people that liked yume nikki and wanted more, both have multiple endings. If you're looking for a more lighthearted thing, go with 2kki, if you're looking for wierd bio horror (also mouths) check out .flow. Both are very worthy successors. Some people like Ib, and while I did like it, It's honestly not terribly like yume nikki besides "weird stuff happens". If I ever get around to fiddling with OBS I might try out a video LP of .flow, but that's likely a ways off as I'm not gonna put something half baked out there, and I am a stranger to the world of video recording.

Quote from: Max White on March 22, 2013, 07:36:22 pm
Knowing little more than having read half the first post of this thread I'm downloading this game...
Welp, wish me luck!

Good luck! Don't be shy about posting your experiences with this thing in the thread, people love seeing reactions. 
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on March 25, 2013, 06:04:23 pm
Ib is a surreal adventure game made in RPG Maker. Not a Yume Nikki fangame in any way, but this is the closest place to discuss it.
The proper site is not accessible for me. (http://vgboy.dabomstew.com/other/ib.htm) Bandwidth exceeded, but I'd like to make sure it's not just something weird on my end.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: SirAaronIII on March 25, 2013, 06:07:31 pm
It's saying Bandwidth Exceeded for me too, but looks like a problem with vgperson's site and not with us.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on March 25, 2013, 06:30:52 pm
oh wait, vgperson, the guy on youtube translated Ib?

I'll be.

Also yeah bandwith exceeded. Could probably host it for you if you need it asap.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on March 25, 2013, 06:50:25 pm
I don't need it, just found it strange. I also have the newest Ib and the means to distribute it, if anyone needs.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on April 29, 2013, 04:56:22 pm
Note, Yume 2kki has officially hit v0.100! So they're about done. There's a little moreto be done but we're on the home stretch. Someone on uboachan has talked about an english translation for it when they're done for real, so that should be nice.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on July 11, 2013, 09:53:35 pm
More notices, yumenikki.net has evolved! (http://yumenikki.net/) Into a far more developed and explanatory thing. I'm gonna see if I can't wrangle a couple of pals into translating it for me but given the sheer girth of the website I promise nothing. If anyone else wants to contribute to translating it to find out what the balls is going on please feel free.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on July 11, 2013, 11:17:46 pm
Dang, that's a lot of info. I hope there's some cool stuff, not just news on the progress of those revealed projects.

Translations will probably be hitting places like tumblr by the end of the week.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on July 12, 2013, 02:05:33 am
I dunno how long ago it happened, so it's entirely possible there are a bunch of translations out there on the internet somewhere that I'm missing. :P
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 17, 2013, 04:28:03 pm
The thread arbitrarily shows up again! This time a fella on uboachan has made a pretty impressive thing.

Namely a 3D "demo" of sorts, of the snow world of yume nikki. (http://digitoxin.github.io/snowworld/)

He's accepting help from people in the thread here (http://uboachan.net/). Namely 3D modellers, although I believe he said it's open source. So if that sounds like something you want to and can help with that's a thing. 3D yume nikki? 3D tour of yume nikki? Both sound kind've interesting honestly. And if he just wants to flesh out snow world that'd be pretty great too.

EDIT: Oh, extra note, you need a browser capable of html5. So if your browser isn't working try kicking it on in an (up to date) IE.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 18, 2013, 03:46:14 pm
Apparently it's supposed to have sound. Have you gotten the sound to work in any browser?

In fangame news, Elysium City (http://elysiumcity.tumblr.com/) is a beautiful fangame that is - wait for it - in active development. It has more storyline than exploration, but it's still fun. Pretty short currently, but worth the while. Should be getting a reasonably substantial update soon.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 18, 2013, 06:05:46 pm
Yeah, I got the sound to work. I'm in google chrome if it helps. Was just normal snow world music. Elysium city looks pretty neat! Are there any screenshots floating around? Don't think I saw it on uboachan but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 18, 2013, 06:31:08 pm
Elysium City thread is right here:
http://uboachan.net/fg/res/3411.html#3411
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 18, 2013, 06:46:47 pm
I am happy to be incorrect!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (and related fangames) - Social Detatchment, Dreaming, and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 18, 2013, 08:13:40 pm
Double post because I'm asking something and it's been a bit, just how short is this lectorog? I'm interested, but if it's like five rooms or something I'll hold out until it fills out a bit more.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 18, 2013, 08:46:14 pm
IIRC there are 8-10 grid spaces you can explore of the city itself. Each of these is about 4 times the screen size (2 screens x 2 screens), with a transition between each. There are 4 building places you can explore, each with a couple of rooms. And then the town hall / orphanage has, like, 15 small areas in it. Probably an hour of play if you're new. Especially because it's not just exploration - you're doing things for people and certain things change if you know what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 18, 2013, 09:47:56 pm
Hmmmmmmmmm I'll probably hold off for now then. But I'll definitely be watching development!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City beta Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 19, 2013, 04:57:07 am
So I lied and I totally just played it. Aside from the roadbump in actually starting the plot it's not bad! There's not a lot of.... stuff. But it's a beta, so I can respect that. Overall I'd say anyone looking into playing it, maybe wait. As of now it barely took me 20-30 minutes to finish it which really isn't a lot of game, it's honestly short enough that I'm having a hard time describing it without revealing like a third of the game.

The fact that I enjoyed such a short minor thing though says things! Not quite as surreal as traditional yume nikki fangames, not even as surreal as, say, Ib, but much more plot. Not so much speculation on things if you're into that part of the games. Still a fairly creepy thing or two to be found however.

EDIT: In fact I'd go so far as to say it doesn't count as a yume nikki fangame persay, but it clearly had it's inspirations from it and frankly it still involves wandering around a bizzare enviroment looking for things so I'm pretty much okay with any discussion happening here.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City beta Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 21, 2013, 10:49:54 pm
More update, ME has updated and is apparently being rebuilt with new graphics from the bottom up! That's pretty rad. Also including new areas. Maybe it's just new areas. I'm not sure, I wasn't patient enough to read through the entire uboachan thread. THe point is ME is doing new stuff and it's a pretty good fangame!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City beta Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Lectorog on August 21, 2013, 11:50:27 pm
Yeah, Me graphics overhaul. It's actually worth playing now IMO. I wasn't terribly interested in the original.

In fact, the new version is supposedly so much better that the original version was taken down. (That caused a real shitstorm!)

It's not quite as large as the original, but it does contain new areas, and it's going to be significantly bigger than the original once it's finished.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City beta Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 22, 2013, 12:11:22 am
Yeah, I did see a lot of people throwing a fit about it, hahaha. Good to hear, as I rather liked Me to begin with! Admittantly I've never been a fan of the LCDem approach of "getting orbs for the sake of getting orbs" but I feel what little dialogue was in the game helped it a lot. It's good to see that people are shaking it up a little bit with the fangames lately!
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Elysium City beta Pg. 12) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on August 28, 2013, 05:05:44 pm
I bring you something.... a little different.

Crypt worlds: Your darkest desires come true! (http://cicadamarionette.com/Games/CryptWorlds/Main.html)

A preview video (there's a guy talking over it but by and large he's not blabbing constantly so it works) here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v81EvbBMe9o)

He cuts between random scenes and it spoils the bad end so be warned! Maybe just watch the first few minutes.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Crypt Worlds Pg. 13) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 06, 2013, 04:00:39 am
So! I've decided to make a new topic for "exploration fangame general" (obviously including the surreal counterparts) basically, primarily to hopefully get more people into this sorta thing, and as I'd like to make the second post a sort've "compendium" of the games this thread isn't capable of holding it. Obviously yume nikki, .flow, yume 2kki, all those sorts of things will be in it so this thread will be fairly redundant, so I'll probably be locking this thread sometime soon shortly after making the new thread. Air your grievances/ignore this if you don't care! Just a heads up.
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Crypt Worlds Pg. 13) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Lectorog on September 06, 2013, 09:12:01 am
So you're looking for more traffic?
Title: Re: Yume Nikki (Current Fangame: Crypt Worlds Pg. 13) - Dreaming and You.
Post by: Seriyu on September 06, 2013, 06:32:13 pm
In a sense! I mean it's not like I'm making money off it. I'd just like more people to see these games and hopefully enjoy them, and given "yume nikki" is perhaps the least descriptive title ever if you don't know Japanese I can see why many people would pass over the thread.

I'd also like to be able to give people a rundown of games in the second post, as I said, via a little list of descriptions and such so people don't jump into something they are wholly uninterested in. On top of this, the OP was originally made for a single game, and while editable into something resembling what I want, most of the early thread is spoiler discussion hoohah. And I dislike linking a post 80 pages in for a "directory".

There's a lot of reasons! It's just a victim of the thread outgrowing it's original purpose.