Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 04:08:07 am
ERA: Middle Age
MOD: None - Icecream gameplay
MAP: Cradle of Dominions
Server link: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10 (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10)
Server name ( Important for sending files!): Bay12DominionsRound10
OTHER:
Time Allowence: 48 hours
Renaming: Yes
Players ( full ) - nation:
Scriptwolf - Marignon
Shadowgandor - Abysia
Karlito - Pythium
a1s - Ulm
Burnt Pies - Caelum
puntocom - Ermor
MentalFather - Eriu
Boksi - C'tis
Ghazkull - R'lyeh
Knave - Pangaea
Darkwind3 - T'ien Ch'i
Previous rounds: 1 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=44348.msg849721#msg849721), 2 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=46012.msg908706#msg908706), 3 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=60235.msg1357467#msg1357467), 4 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=63361.0), 5 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65222.0), 6 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=72919.msg1797235#msg1797235), 7&7.5 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=103575.0), 8 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=112126.0), 9 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115427.0)
Spoiler: Standard info on Dominions 3 for the uninitiated (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: How does MP work? (click to show/hide)
Useful links:
The wiki (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Main_Page), with loads of useful information, including strategy guides. Keep in mind that as a unit/spell/item reference might not be compatibile with modded game data.
Dom3 on Shrapnel Forums (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=138)
Llama Server (http://www.llamaserver.net/), which is the automatic hosting server for our game.
Llama Server's map and mod browser (http://www.llamaserver.net/mapModBrowser.cgi)
Shamelessly stolen from Palazzo :P ( with his say so )
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 01, 2012, 05:33:28 am
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 05:33:54 am
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 01, 2012, 06:00:30 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 06:01:48 am
Nice to have you on board shadow, we can have it set at 48+ hours no problem.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 07:12:26 am
also what mods do you want on here or modless ? also what map?
Post by: a1s on November 01, 2012, 09:26:18 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 09:51:58 am
Post by: a1s on November 01, 2012, 11:10:23 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 11:17:25 am
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 12:06:25 pm
shadow and karlito if your interested could you PM me your chosen nation please.
also what mods do you want on here or modless ? also what map?
Well, my nation choice depends on the answer to the the mod question. For this I'd recommend vanilla Dominions or maybe Conceptual Balance, since it doesn't fundamentally change the base game.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 12:43:27 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 01, 2012, 01:16:12 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 01:17:09 pm
Post by: puntocom on November 01, 2012, 01:24:26 pm
Thinking nation.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 01:43:59 pm
and guys need to chose your nations !
also map ideas on what map we are having ? something big of course
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 01:46:35 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 01:49:24 pm
Post by: puntocom on November 01, 2012, 01:55:19 pm
Post by: MentalFather on November 01, 2012, 02:06:27 pm
I would want to play too.
Eriu is mine. :)
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 02:24:11 pm
Post by: Boksi on November 01, 2012, 02:36:47 pm
EDIT: Tentaively picking C'tis. Not sure, but it's the first one I can think of.
Post by: Ghazkull on November 01, 2012, 02:48:14 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 03:03:03 pm
We now need a big map to play with suggestions ?
a1s, ghaz you need to pick a nation
Post by: ndkid on November 01, 2012, 03:27:30 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 03:44:38 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 03:46:04 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 03:52:59 pm
EDIT: I do like Elmokki's maps. They read easy and many of them wrap-around. Realm of Roaring Rhinos might be about the right size:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 03:57:53 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on November 01, 2012, 04:18:50 pm
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 01, 2012, 04:21:53 pm
uhm i'm not exactly sure what to take...i am not really experienced with the game so...R'lyeh or C'tis?Take Machaka. Be the Spiderman.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 04:22:52 pm
Post by: Boksi on November 01, 2012, 04:41:19 pm
uhm i'm not exactly sure what to take...i am not really experienced with the game so...R'lyeh or C'tis?Well, I kinda want to take C'tis. Maybe you should take Ashdod? E9/N6 blessed giants will carve up most anything. It's a powerful nation that's hard to go wrong with.
Post by: Ghazkull on November 01, 2012, 04:45:11 pm
i think i'll stick with R'lyeh. Hordes of Maddened idiots ftw!
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 04:52:01 pm
i think i'll stick with R'lyeh. Hordes of Maddened idiots ftw!
That's Late Age R'lyeh. Middle age R'lyeh is less insane.
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 01, 2012, 05:01:35 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 05:35:35 pm
Tomorrow ( maybe while at work :P ) I shall sort out the map and update the OP and start the server and give the link out
Post by: a1s on November 01, 2012, 05:46:55 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 01, 2012, 05:52:10 pm
Also before I go do people want a normal lengthed game or marathon and something which will go on for a while ?
Post by: Boksi on November 01, 2012, 05:53:38 pm
I'll take Ulm. Haven't played that in a while.You're seriously going to pick MA Ulm in a vanilla game? Well, it's your choice.
Post by: a1s on November 01, 2012, 08:27:08 pm
I shall look forward to forging an artifact out of your gems the most.I'll take Ulm. Haven't played that in a while.You're seriously going to pick MA Ulm in a vanilla game? Well, it's your choice.
Post by: Knave on November 01, 2012, 08:45:55 pm
I'll take Ulm. Haven't played that in a while.You're seriously going to pick MA Ulm in a vanilla game? Well, it's your choice.
Is Ulm a weak nation to choose in the middle ages? They sound pretty cool.
Post by: Karlito on November 01, 2012, 09:08:09 pm
Middle Age Ulm is pretty weak in vanilla Dominions. Their national troops are strong but not overly so when you compare them to some of the other human kingdoms. Man, Pythium, Ermor, Arcoscephale and T'ien Ch'i all have roughly equivalent heavy infantries and three of those of have cavalries that can basically match Ulm's as well.
Where Ulm really falls short is the lack of powerful mages, and the lower magic resistance of their troops (though the drain scales will help with that, inside their own Dominion). Sure, the Smiths have a forge bonus and the paths necessary to equip a few thugs, but they won't be able to bring to bear the powerful battlefield buffs and destructive magic that most other nations can wield.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 04:45:00 am
Also people do you want a normal length game or something lasting a bit longer ?
2 open slots left which will close in 3:15 hours.
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 02, 2012, 04:58:13 am
Post by: Stworca on November 02, 2012, 05:08:34 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 05:08:42 am
How would you make it a longer game? Lowering income and resources?
Bigger, map slower research, maybe lower income/resources, upto you guys really
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 05:35:41 am
nope cradle of dominions
also Nkid and Knave still need to pick a nation
server up http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10 (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10)
PM's have been sentith
Anyway send your Pretenders in now!
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 02, 2012, 06:06:26 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 06:07:53 am
I'll be able to send in a pretender in about 7 hours :)
same for me im at work right now haha
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 06:22:04 am
Also people do you want a normal length game or something lasting a bit longer ?I'd prefer a shorter game- I have exams in January. ;D
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 06:24:06 am
Post by: Knave on November 02, 2012, 08:05:19 am
Pangaea seems like an alright choice.
Will attempt to craft a pretender now!
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 08:30:18 am
Also people you may send in your pretenders ! hope the map is ok and we only have one aquatic nation right ?
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 08:45:44 am
Added, waiting in NDkid.We what? We need either 2 or none.
Also people you may send in your pretenders ! hope the map is ok and we only have one aquatic nation right ?
I'm willing to bite the bullet and be Atlantis if Ndkid doesn't want to be aquatic.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 08:59:32 am
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 09:06:14 am
Atlantis
Oceania
R'lyeh
we have 1.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 09:19:21 am
Post by: Ghazkull on November 02, 2012, 09:59:44 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 10:02:04 am
Post by: Boksi on November 02, 2012, 10:06:01 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Ghazkull on November 02, 2012, 10:11:12 am
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 10:12:14 am
uhm little problem here...i can't seem to find my savedgames folder XP...where is that damn thing?have you checked C:\Users\[user]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files (x86)\dominions3\savedgame
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 10:15:10 am
ahh shit i would like to say no aquatic nations then but ehhh damn it >< how come we cant just have one ?Balance issues. That being said, being the only aquatic nation isn't a guaranteed win (this game has a pretty high skill cap).
Post by: Ghazkull on November 02, 2012, 10:16:28 am
and well...with me being the only aquatic...i can't complain :D we need no damn atlantans, the darn bastards get enslaved anyhow...
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 10:17:33 am
i want to try and get rids turn sorted for tonight
Post by: Ghazkull on November 02, 2012, 10:22:23 am
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 02, 2012, 10:25:58 am
i am not sure but i think i sent my pretender off.You can find most information you'll ever need to know about the status of the game on its page on llama server - link in the OP.
(and yes, your pretender is there)
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 02, 2012, 12:05:36 pm
It doesn't look like the game's started yet. Any space for me?
e: after using my knowledge of basic addition, I have determined that there are twelve players signed up and that the maximum number of players for the map appears to be twelve as well. Well, better luck next time, it seems.
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 12:10:59 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 02, 2012, 12:30:47 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 12:36:06 pm
e: after using my knowledge of basic addition, I have determined that there are twelve players signed up and that the maximum number of players for the map appears to be twelve as well. Well, better luck next time, it seems.
There are only 11 players signed up.
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 02, 2012, 12:38:26 pm
Yeah, that was dumb of me. Well, hopefully there is space for me then? I don't have access to Dominions right now, but I can cook up something later today if there is. It's been quite a while since I've played though, so I can't say I'll be terribly good at the game.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 12:48:33 pm
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 01:09:39 pm
the maximum number of players for the map appears to be twelve as well.Where are you getting that? My copy says for 8-10 players. But yes, welcome aboard.
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 02, 2012, 01:15:36 pm
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10the maximum number of players for the map appears to be twelve as well.Where are you getting that? My copy says for 8-10 players. But yes, welcome aboard.
Most of the time, the player number in the map description is just a suggestion.
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 01:19:00 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 01:23:58 pm
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 01:25:30 pm
update:Oddly enough, no. the default is actually 8 players. And Llama let's you play CoD with as many as 24 players. This one's deliberate.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 01:28:42 pm
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 01:30:43 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 01:36:33 pm
Post by: a1s on November 02, 2012, 01:48:24 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 01:49:24 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Really the only way to fix this problem is to edit in fixed start locations, which is pretty easy, or find another map with fixed start locations. Or we could ignore it, since it's not a terribly significant issue.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 01:52:14 pm
alright i had a look see and changed the map to glory of the gods (multiplayer) is this ok ?
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 01:54:10 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 01:56:25 pm
Maybe you could set up a poll and we could vote on the map? I'll look around and see if we can find some good candidates.
alright then poll it is :), if you just post a list i will poll it
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 02:19:27 pm
Cradle of Dominions -- Roughly 18 provinces/player
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Glory of the Gods (multiplayer) -- Roughly 22 provinces/player
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Orania -- Roughly 23 provinces/player, Wraparound
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Urraparrand -- 15 provinces/player, Wraparound
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Greek Stain -- Roughly 17 provinces/player
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Realm of Roaring Rhinos -- Roughly 15 provinces/player, Wraparound
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
There are many other maps that could work, of course, but these are the ones I liked best.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 02:43:18 pm
also im not looking forward to nations with blood magic i looked at the spells and was like fuck me.....
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 05:21:45 pm
People still need to sort there crap out don't forget!
( how long should i wait for the others? )
Post by: Karlito on November 02, 2012, 05:29:29 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 05:33:27 pm
You really need to bump a thread after three hours? I say give it a day or two. This is a slow paced game, remember?
but we have not even started yet >,<
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 02, 2012, 06:31:14 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 06:35:20 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 02, 2012, 06:39:27 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 02, 2012, 06:43:13 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 02, 2012, 06:47:29 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 02, 2012, 06:53:09 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 03, 2012, 05:38:16 am
Post by: EuchreJack on November 03, 2012, 07:31:27 am
But in all seriousness, I'd glad to see another Dominions 3 game starting up, but my schedule won't permit me to join. Good luck to all!
Post by: Ghazkull on November 03, 2012, 07:05:21 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 03, 2012, 08:34:26 pm
(Imagine there's a picture here. I forgot to take one. Would I lie about the name of my pretender, though? :) )
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 04, 2012, 04:42:20 am
Lets try and start the game today
Map : glory of the gods (multiplayer) still ok ? or are there some objections ?
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 10:56:09 am
Post by: a1s on November 04, 2012, 11:31:51 am
Post by: ndkid on November 04, 2012, 12:44:15 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 12:47:29 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 04, 2012, 01:24:07 pm
Post by: Knave on November 04, 2012, 03:04:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/rXq3I.png)
Awwww yeah, *cues Barry White music*
Post by: Boksi on November 04, 2012, 03:21:57 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 04, 2012, 03:35:24 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 03:35:57 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on November 04, 2012, 03:52:09 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 04, 2012, 04:03:30 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on November 04, 2012, 04:18:29 pm
i start the game open the save and i see the map and as soon as i use the arrowkeys to move all my command interfaces vanish and my units...:/
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 04:19:56 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 04, 2012, 04:23:32 pm
My capital is a forest, mountain, swamp, and farmland, which somehow results in good income and mediocre resources. I'm not going to try and figure out how that works out.I'll keep Pythium's position in mind. :P
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 04:28:19 pm
I'll keep Pythium's position in mind. :P
Ditto, though there's at least two provinces that fit your description. :)
Post by: Ghazkull on November 04, 2012, 04:35:15 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 04:43:23 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on November 04, 2012, 04:58:43 pm
EDIT: Turns Sent, goddamn i have a crappy starting place...
Post by: a1s on November 04, 2012, 06:22:05 pm
Buy the game? Or maybe one of the other round 9 players would let you use their key if you ask nicely.This won't work (just for reference), allegedly if you use the same key on 2 different computers, the game will refuse to process one of them saying it had a "key violation". This apparently comes up a lot in lan parties.
Post by: Karlito on November 04, 2012, 07:36:52 pm
This won't work (just for reference), allegedly if you use the same key on 2 different computers, the game will refuse to process one of them saying it had a "key violation". This apparently comes up a lot in lan parties.
It doesn't work if two different computers playing the same game, have the same key, but I guess the point is kind of irrelevant.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 05, 2012, 03:08:29 am
Post by: MentalFather on November 05, 2012, 08:01:09 pm
Are you the same ScriptWolf that posted every hour saying us to send our pretenders? *ahem* *ahem*
:D
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 06, 2012, 01:31:41 am
Also we're still waiting on a1s as well so I'm not all bad :P
Post by: a1s on November 06, 2012, 09:29:48 am
Also we're still waiting on a1s as well so I'm not all bad :PThat's wierd- I sent in my turn last night. I guess I'll resend it now.
edit: Doesn't seem to work.
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 06, 2012, 10:25:13 am
The server is currently out-of-order, and the games are not being updated/processed. Usually it doesn't take more than a couple of days for llamabeast to fix it up.Also we're still waiting on a1s as well so I'm not all bad :PThat's wierd- I sent in my turn last night. I guess I'll resend it now.
edit: Doesn't seem to work.
Post by: Bluerobin on November 06, 2012, 11:13:45 am
Post by: Karlito on November 06, 2012, 11:18:15 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 06, 2012, 11:24:37 am
Sounds realyl good will certinally spice up the thread, i look forward to it :D.
also is the server still down then ? and is there anyway to check its progress ?
Post by: Karlito on November 06, 2012, 11:27:30 am
Post by: Il Palazzo on November 06, 2012, 11:30:50 am
also is the server still down then ? and is there anyway to check its progress ?Go to the game page and look for the "last updated at/on" line near the bottom.
Post by: Bluerobin on November 06, 2012, 11:34:42 am
As for figuring out if the server's working, try just checking your game's page on the llamaserver site (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Bay12DominionsRound10) and seeing if a1s's turn (Ulm) is counted as submitted (also the other things karlito and Il Palazzo said while I was typing this up). It's not the best way, but it should work. The game should just go when the kinks are worked out. I tried searching for a server status thread and couldn't find one, just this thread started by other people when it froze up (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=49285). Maybe check that thread periodically to see if he posts?
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 06, 2012, 12:08:23 pm
Post by: Bluerobin on November 06, 2012, 12:13:42 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 06, 2012, 12:31:44 pm
Post by: Bluerobin on November 06, 2012, 12:38:24 pm
Edit: I'll probably just make a table of contents post in this thread and ask Scriptwolf to put a link to that in the OP.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 06, 2012, 01:24:59 pm
Post by: Knave on November 06, 2012, 01:34:17 pm
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/DOM3/DOM3_page.html (http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Illwinter/DOM3/DOM3_page.html)
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 06, 2012, 01:48:29 pm
sent in my turn - also update for down time i put another 24 hours on
Post by: a1s on November 06, 2012, 04:58:23 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 06, 2012, 04:59:38 pm
Post by: Bluerobin on November 06, 2012, 07:45:30 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 06, 2012, 07:48:58 pm
I'm sorry for your losses, Caelum and R'lyeh. Sending your starting army out into the breach without knowing what they were fighting, as it seems you did, turned out poorly. But hey! At least you're not paying upkeep on them. Also holy crap r'lyeh did you go dom 10 or something wow that is a lot of dominion. Turn 2 graphs tell you a lot; this is the first time I've really looked, but there is a lot to learn about everyone there. I don't doubt an astute observer could piece together my gameplan already :P
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 07, 2012, 03:03:47 am
also holy shit my units are expensive :/ i can barely afford 3 guys >,<
Post by: Boksi on November 07, 2012, 06:26:04 am
Also, dammit my army totally failed to patrol away any unrest despite being set to patrol.
@Darkwind: I can't see anything about your gameplan from your scales beyond "Have a dormant/imprisoned pretender and really good scales". Hope you know how to use those units well, they're not as simple as "Recruit sacred giants, go smash".
@ScriptWolf: Resources-wise, right? I can't see them being gold-intensive, they're humans. Hope you took production rather than sloth!
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 07, 2012, 06:40:56 am
fucking can do this time inerval buisness for shit fucked the whole thing up >,<, palazzo can you help me please ?
Fixed im having a moment
Also how do i gen more resources ? it not gold im short on but all my units are resource heavy
i think i took 1 point in production
Post by: Boksi on November 07, 2012, 07:16:01 am
Take provinces surrounding your fort. Each fort pulls some resources from adjacent provinces. The amount depends on the type of the fort - a fort with 20 administration rating will pull 20% of all adjacent provinces' resources, a fort with 50 administration will pull 50%, 0 administration 0% etc. Administration also increases the income of a province it's placed in. So a fort with 50 administration in a province earning 200 gold per turn? That's a 50% increase, or 100 gold. Of course, a fort with such a high administration value will cost a lot and take a long time to build.*Bangs head of desk violently*
fucking can do this time inerval buisness for shit fucked the whole thing up >,<, palazzo can you help me please ?
Fixed im having a moment
Also how do i gen more resources ? it not gold im short on but all my units are resource heavy
i think i took 1 point in production
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 07, 2012, 07:38:34 am
Resources can be increased by building a castle (not sure) and by casting the spell Riches from Beneath (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Riches_from_Beneath).
Also, BlueRobin, that is a great idea! I'll send my Pretender file to you :)
Ninja Edit: Boksi is right :)
Post by: Ghazkull on November 07, 2012, 07:58:12 am
Post by: a1s on November 07, 2012, 08:32:16 am
Anyway, I'd like to jump on the bandwagon, and send turns to Bluerobin. Although I would like to ask him not to post his first report until turn 10, so as not to reveal where everyone is (how about focusing more abstractly on the nations involved?)
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 07, 2012, 09:04:48 am
Post by: Bluerobin on November 07, 2012, 10:39:11 am
Post by: Alkhemia on November 07, 2012, 11:07:03 am
Yup, I had planned to delay at least 10 turns. I have nation summaries for Marignon, Abysia, and Pythium done and I'll work on the rest of them today. They're turning out a bit longer than I expected, but basically all I'm doing in one/two sentence summaries of each unit with some basic strategies on how to tie them together and ideas for how to play the nations/what to look for when playing against them. Adding pretender info will be the next step and turn summaries won't happen until turn 10-15.
Oh that sounds cool I definitely want to read that
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 07, 2012, 11:17:53 am
Post by: Karlito on November 07, 2012, 11:26:30 am
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 07, 2012, 11:27:35 am
is there anyway to take the password off a pretender ? i set mine i really dont know why and i dont want to give my password for my preternder because its the pass i use for a few things :P
Just create a carbon copy of your pretender and send that to Blue. Atleast he'll be able to see what kind of pretender you have :)
Post by: Karlito on November 07, 2012, 11:55:58 am
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 07, 2012, 12:11:04 pm
Add to that how rubbish Caelum's infantry are and you have a recipe for disaster.
Still, all that upkeep I save will allow for Mammoths, and if there's one thing Mammoths are good at, it's walking all over indies.
Post by: Karlito on November 07, 2012, 01:14:36 pm
Boy do I feel silly.
Post by: a1s on November 07, 2012, 01:38:56 pm
So, I was rereading Boksi's message about the C'tis dominions effects, and thinking about how I could possibly fight that, when it dawned on me -- I have units with swamp survival. I played a test game up to like year 5 with Pythium without paying for a single Hydra; it's like that part of the recruitment screen only became visible now.Pythians and the C'tis are basically frienemies in the lore (BTW, I find it very weird that while extensive world history exists, it's not used anywhere whatsoever- all the games happen on unrelated maps, with each nation starting from a single, randomly placed province). The government is vary of the C'tis, as they are behind the Ermorian Death Cult (or at least have inspired it), while the Intelligentsia (mages and such) finds the C'tis fascinating (as evidenced by LA Pythia).
Post by: puntocom on November 07, 2012, 02:35:25 pm
Post by: Boksi on November 07, 2012, 02:43:16 pm
It's allSo, I was rereading Boksi's message about the C'tis dominions effects, and thinking about how I could possibly fight that, when it dawned on me -- I have units with swamp survival. I played a test game up to like year 5 with Pythium without paying for a single Hydra; it's like that part of the recruitment screen only became visible now.Pythians and the C'tis are basically frienemies in the lore (BTW, I find it very weird that while extensive world history exists, it's not used anywhere whatsoever- all the games happen on unrelated maps, with each nation starting from a single, randomly placed province). The government is vary of the C'tis, as they are behind the Ermorian Death Cult (or at least have inspired it), while the Intelligentsia (mages and such) finds the C'tis fascinating (as evidenced by LA Pythia).
The serpent cult is definitely from C'tis, it came with Sauromancers who were invited to help battle Ermor, but it's changed a good bit after the Sauromancers left Pythium.
Post by: Karlito on November 07, 2012, 02:57:48 pm
(BTW, I find it very weird that while extensive world history exists, it's not used anywhere whatsoever- all the games happen on unrelated maps, with each nation starting from a single, randomly placed province)
I figure that most of the history bits must happen during the reign of the previous Pantokrator, and then when he decides to leave for whatever reason, the cataclysmic stuff happens: a meteor falls into the sea and destroys Atlantis, Ermorian mages freak out and try to resurrect their prophet, the forests of Ulm get cursed and turn evil, etc. The game starts after a few years of chaos where all the provinces in the world have broken away from their previous empires and become independent. Nations that aren't being played simply didn't have anyone powerful enough to claim the throne of heaven that they could rally around.
Post by: Bluerobin on November 07, 2012, 03:12:18 pm
Hey Bluerobin, I can send my files too if you are interested. What do you need, pretender and all the turns?Pretender would be good and as many turns as you want to send. I'm still not sure how many of these I'll actually look through, but I plan on doing summaries every 5 turns or so.
Edit: Holy hell people, was it really necessary to make such a big game? Writeups for 11 nations take foreeeeeeever. Getting there, though.
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 07, 2012, 06:48:16 pm
Well, we could take some of the pressure off you and write up something ourselves. It would certainly be interesting to have player perspectives as well as yours and see where differences lie. Just be glad you're not doing this for a full 20-player game, or even one of the ridiculous 60-player all era games (though getting the players for one of those would probably be just as much of a pain). :DHey Bluerobin, I can send my files too if you are interested. What do you need, pretender and all the turns?Pretender would be good and as many turns as you want to send. I'm still not sure how many of these I'll actually look through, but I plan on doing summaries every 5 turns or so.
Edit: Holy hell people, was it really necessary to make such a big game? Writeups for 11 nations take foreeeeeeever. Getting there, though.
Post by: Bluerobin on November 07, 2012, 07:14:48 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 08, 2012, 09:17:10 am
Post by: a1s on November 08, 2012, 10:18:16 am
I think it's still on 24h turns. Could it be set to 48h?can we please not? If there's a legitimate reason, we should grant extensions, but making 1 turn a day isn't hard (we can make it 48h once we get to the midgame, when half the people get eliminated, and the rest will need to maange complex empires of larger size).
Post by: Karlito on November 08, 2012, 10:23:14 am
Post by: a1s on November 08, 2012, 10:30:44 am
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 08, 2012, 10:49:26 am
Post by: a1s on November 08, 2012, 11:01:05 am
It's not about the amount of time I'm busy doing turns, it's wether I'm at all capable of doing the turns or not. I won't be able to play at all between tonight and saturday late afternoon and this is happens multiple times a week.You don't have 15 minutes at lunchtime (or before bed?) I think you might have joined the wrong game (or, sigh, I have)
Post by: Knave on November 08, 2012, 11:15:55 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 08, 2012, 12:19:55 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 08, 2012, 12:54:24 pm
During lunch, I'm not near my computer. I already spend 8 hours a day in a room without windows. I prefer spending my lunchtime outside or at least in the break room. If it was a reliable option, I'd have taken it.It's not about the amount of time I'm busy doing turns, it's wether I'm at all capable of doing the turns or not. I won't be able to play at all between tonight and saturday late afternoon and this is happens multiple times a week.You don't have 15 minutes at lunchtime (or before bed?) I think you might have joined the wrong game (or, sigh, I have)
Post by: EuchreJack on November 08, 2012, 03:13:55 pm
After the first in-game year, I've never had a turn that took me less than an hour to do.It's not about the amount of time I'm busy doing turns, it's wether I'm at all capable of doing the turns or not. I won't be able to play at all between tonight and saturday late afternoon and this is happens multiple times a week.You don't have 15 minutes at lunchtime (or before bed?) I think you might have joined the wrong game (or, sigh, I have)
Plus, 24-hour turns really don't give enough time for diplomacy between nations, something essential from day one.
Post by: Bluerobin on November 08, 2012, 03:23:20 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 08, 2012, 07:55:55 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 09, 2012, 03:12:05 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 09, 2012, 11:25:36 am
Looks like Karlito's Pythium took a beating, from his army size graph. Send out a second expansion party a bit too early?
Post by: Karlito on November 09, 2012, 11:36:13 am
Post by: Bluerobin on November 09, 2012, 03:27:22 pm
Alrighty, here we go! Nation summaries for the Bay12 Round 10 Dominions 3 game. Let's start things out with some good old-fashion copy and paste:
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ERA: Middle Age
MOD: None - Icecream gameplay
MAP: Cradle of Dominions
Scriptwolf - Marignon
Shadowgandor - Abysia
Karlito - Pythium
a1s - Ulm
Burnt Pies - Caelum
puntocom - Ermor
MentalFather - Eriu
Boksi - C'tis
Ghazkull - R'lyeh
Knave - Pangaea
Darkwind3 - T'ien Ch'iThe two major things to note at this point are the first two lines there: Middle Age and no mods. I'm used to CBM-modded Dom3, but at least this way I'll be able to reference the wiki directly. Non-CBM (or pre-CBM1.6) allows for things like gem-generator items and Dwarven Hammers and makes end-game strategy rely largely on Wish, Tartarians, aaaaand that's probably it. Mega communions plus some other big spells and little tricks probably work too, but we'll see if we get that far.
These nation summaries are decent, but they don't explore all possibilities. Mostly I focus on the primary way to use each unit or strategy, but there are obviously other possibilities. For instance, I mention Caelum's Spire Horn Seraphs as researchers and lightning bolters after Summon Storm Power, but they're also great archery support if you give them Bows of War and Aim or Wind Guide. Even so, these ended up surprisingly long, so... sorry I guess.
We'll start with the game host Scriptwolf and the nation Marignon.
Spoiler: Marignon (click to show/hide)
Next up, Shadowgandor and Abysia!
Spoiler: Abysia! (click to show/hide)
Time for Karlito's Pythium.
Spoiler: Pythium (click to show/hide)
a1s's Ulm:
Spoiler: Ulm (click to show/hide)
Post by: Bluerobin on November 09, 2012, 03:28:08 pm
Caelum! Burnt Pies!
Spoiler: Caelum (click to show/hide)
And the last nation for this first part: puntocom's Ermor.
Spoiler: Ermor (click to show/hide)
Post by: Karlito on November 09, 2012, 04:02:15 pm
Post by: Boksi on November 09, 2012, 05:01:14 pm
Marignon wants a pretender with water/nature. Why? To summon naiads! Who can then forge clams! While you could get a rainbow mage to do that, I'd reccommend the Lady of Love. Maybe a dormant Lady of Love, W4N6, 6 dominion, Order 3/Prod 3/Misf 2/Magic 1. Your knights would get a nice bonus, you could do away with regen items on angel thugs and you have a potential SC chassi with decent awe. Alternatively, dropping N to 4 and 5 dominion would be enough to get 2 in another path. Death would be a good, albeit not very thematic addition: You can summon Kokythiads and Lamia Queens. Alternatively, earth makes it easier to get proper earth access instead of relying on empowering or 10% randoms, and is a good SC path.
Soul Contracts are much better than summoning devils - at least for Abysia. This is because Abysia benefits much more from researching Construction early - lightless lanterns and boots of youth are both great items, and there's plenty of other useful items too.
I have no comment on Pythium except that I love communions.
Ulm is pretty crappy, despite being strong and tough and master smiths their armor is actually more cumbersome than most and their infantry tires out too quick(7 to 9 encumbrance!). With their low defense(10 base and -5 in penalties) they need that protection, but fatigue makes protection less effective because of critical hits. Not to mention that their mages have crap for path access(F1E2 and a 10% chance of FAES). Normally I love units with tower shields but Ulmish tower shield units are only good as arrow catchers. Why? Let's go into details: An attack is a contest between an attacker's attack + a random number versus the defender's defense + a random number. Pretty simple. When a shield enters the mix, it works like this: If the attack+DRN(Dominions Random Number) is higher than the defender's defense+DRN without the shield's parry modifier, it is a hit but the shield's protection is added to the unit's protection(and if the attaqck exceeds the defense even with the shield's parry, the shield doesn't protect the troop). Of course, that's just for the melee. Arrows work differently - I don't remember exactly, but I think it's simply a DRN vs the shield's parry value. So a tower shield is great and a buckler is crappy vs arrows. Anyway, to continue, shield protection is also vulnerable to critical hits, and your shielded troops have even higher encumbrance than your unshielded ones, and given that they've got enormous defense penalties from their armor nearly all hits will be shield hits or even ignore the shield completely, those shields aren't very useful in a melee. The difference between 20 and 30 protection isn't great enough to justify the added encumbrance. They're still good vs arrows, though. Basically, take infantry wielding twohanders instead - they've got less encumbrance and are more likely to kill things in one strike - I reccommend black plate infantry with flails(2 attacks) or pikes(repel). Tower shields are solely archer bait. Ulm's troops aren't too terrible - but combined with their terrible mages and crappy MR they make for a weak nation.
And I don't have much to say about Ermor and Caelum.
Post by: Karlito on November 09, 2012, 05:09:38 pm
Arrows work differently - I don't remember exactly, but I think it's simply a DRN vs the shield's parry value.
The manual claims it's DRN + (Size points in the square, i.e. 6 for the center of a squad) vs. DRN + 2 + 2*parry -(Fatigue/20)
So not only does fatigue make the units more vulnerable to criticals, but also increases the chance that arrows will hit in the first place.
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 10, 2012, 06:43:37 am
Post by: MentalFather on November 10, 2012, 01:09:13 pm
And if two persons haven't send the turn they think "Well, i'm not the only: there is another guy". And it makes me sad :/
48 hours are ok but please send your turns when you can, and let it to the last second if you really have other things to do.
Post by: Ghazkull on November 11, 2012, 09:03:33 am
Post by: a1s on November 11, 2012, 09:20:33 am
Jeez, missed turn 4. Couldn't we just put the damn limit up to 48 hours? Giving us time to actually realize taht the next turn is up?Not only is it 48 hours, it has always been that way (despite my protests). I guess we do need it to be 48.
Post by: Ghazkull on November 11, 2012, 02:05:58 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 11, 2012, 02:08:18 pm
wait it is 48 hours? Oo, why do i always recieve a 24 hour limit then ...or is there some kind of timezone shenanigans working? Or the third possibility am i just to stupid to do my turns correctly?Strange. Maybe there's something up with Llamaserver (or your email)? I received turn 4 Friday, and it was due today, 48 hours later. Did you get it Saturday? If so, then something weird is happening.
Post by: Knave on November 11, 2012, 02:17:03 pm
If you click on the llama server link in the op post, you can also see who's sent in their turns, when the next one is due and request a resend if you haven't gotten it.
Perhaps one of us can post here in the thread as well for added visibility.
Next one is due 7:51 AM GMT Nov 13th.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 12, 2012, 02:31:45 pm
Post by: a1s on November 12, 2012, 06:59:21 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 12, 2012, 06:59:34 pm
Also, Hello Ermor!
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 13, 2012, 02:46:40 am
Post by: Knave on November 13, 2012, 08:47:06 am
I think I've done OK. Definitely not the greatest starting location, but I think I'm making it work. I also spotted my first neighbour ;)
Post by: Ghazkull on November 13, 2012, 06:39:47 pm
My Pretender is dead
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 13, 2012, 06:46:52 pm
Oh great i royally fucked up XP
My Pretender is dead
You can summon him back you know :p
Post by: a1s on November 13, 2012, 07:31:59 pm
It's a pain in the patoot though. Not only do you need 50 man-months of priest work (higher levels of priest are proportionately better), you also lose 1 magic thingy in each path your pretender has (so if it was rainbow this will really suck, and if for some reason the pretender wasn't magical you're in luck), luckily losing (or gaining) magic paths doesn't affect your bless. Oh, and your pretender may or may not heal it's afflictions through resurrection. This is why immortals are the best.Oh great i royally fucked up XP
My Pretender is dead
You can summon him back you know :p
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 14, 2012, 02:57:13 am
Post by: MentalFather on November 14, 2012, 01:11:22 pm
Why so late? :(
Post by: Karlito on November 14, 2012, 01:37:55 pm
Post by: a1s on November 14, 2012, 04:17:11 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 15, 2012, 05:16:29 am
Post by: MentalFather on November 15, 2012, 10:19:31 am
I will have to delay my turn a bit, since i'm having tons of things to do.
I will send it on Friday.
Have a nice day.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 15, 2012, 10:54:10 am
Post by: Knave on November 16, 2012, 02:54:59 pm
Due: Sunday 18:00 GMT
Also to note: Ermor now has 16 provinces! :o
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 16, 2012, 03:03:40 pm
Also to note: Ermor now has 16 provinces! :o
what the fuck ?! O.o
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 16, 2012, 07:03:13 pm
Wonderful T'ien Ch'i, on the other hand, is ensuring a nice, steady pace that is perfect, truly a demonstration of our glorious superiority. :P
Post by: Boksi on November 16, 2012, 08:07:50 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 17, 2012, 06:52:04 am
Almost ready to call this one, I now dread opening Dominions just to see how the game's screwed me today.
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 17, 2012, 11:38:52 am
Just lost my entire army after a Barbarian invasion took out the province they retreated to. I have 3 provinces, and every single surrounding province has 50+ units in them. Due to that stupid luck with plague+famine in the same turn, my income is 116. I can't even recruit a Mammoth every turn.What Misfortune and Death scales did you take? Have you considered ignoring the Mammoths (and, since your income is so low, your commanders as well for a while) and attacking provinces not adjacent to your own? Caelum's ability to fly gives them pretty good maneuverability; Mammoths are amazing for expansion, but when you can't use them (like, say, every surrounding province having 50+ troops and having not even enough income to recruit just one per turn), don't. Caelum's infantry are bad, but not so terrible that you can't even take a weakly-defended province, which doesn't even have to be next to one of your own, or even close to it (mapmove 3 and flying is a wonderful thing). Though, whether you have provinces nearby lightly defended enough to fall to Caelum's infantry, in the numbers you can produce with that income in 2-3 turns, is good question.
Almost ready to call this one, I now dread opening Dominions just to see how the game's screwed me today.
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 17, 2012, 12:04:36 pm
My Misfortune and Death are fairly high, I know, but I've played through the expansion phase several times in SP, and never had the constant barrage of bad luck, loss of income and general fuck-yous the game's hurled at me so far.
Gonna keep playing, though. Just needed to bitch about it.
Post by: Boksi on November 17, 2012, 03:06:19 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on November 17, 2012, 03:10:16 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 18, 2012, 08:16:22 am
Post by: Knave on November 19, 2012, 08:27:23 am
From the Illwinter Website:
Quote
19th November 2012 - Dominions 3 no longer sold by Shrapnel Games
Dominions 3 is no longer sold by Shrapnel Games, so it is difficult to buy right now. However we intend to sell Dominions 3 on Desura as soon as possible, hopefully December 1st.
Looks like they finally got tired of Shrapnel's pricing policies. I imagine CoE3 sold well enough on Desura to make them think twice about continuing to sell it with Shrapnel. I suspect the price point will be in the 25 to 30 dollar range, but who knows!
Post by: EuchreJack on November 19, 2012, 06:33:48 pm
Woah, check out the big Dominions 3 news!
From the Illwinter Website:Quote19th November 2012 - Dominions 3 no longer sold by Shrapnel Games
Dominions 3 is no longer sold by Shrapnel Games, so it is difficult to buy right now. However we intend to sell Dominions 3 on Desura as soon as possible, hopefully December 1st.
Looks like they finally got tired of Shrapnel's pricing policies. I imagine CoE3 sold well enough on Desura to make them think twice about continuing to sell it with Shrapnel. I suspect the price point will be in the 25 to 30 dollar range, but who knows!
Does make one wonder about their current forums, which are Shrapnel. While the Shrapnel Dominions 3 forums aren't terribly conductive to the free exchange of ideas, there is a treasure trove of info on Dominions 3 that Shrapnel will delete if Illwinter and Shrapnel part company.
Post by: Shadowgandor on November 20, 2012, 03:53:54 am
Edit: Nope. Missed my turn. Ah well!
Post by: Karlito on November 20, 2012, 02:20:29 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 21, 2012, 07:50:42 pm
Say, whatever happened to BlueRobin's AAR idea? I realize it's a lot of work, but he stopped halfway through the nation summaries. I've been on the edge of my seat waiting for that summary of T'ien Ch'i! :D
Post by: MentalFather on November 21, 2012, 08:33:23 pm
Maybe he is going to miss it... Dammit :o
Post by: Bluerobin on November 21, 2012, 09:08:02 pm
Edit: It looks like you guys got to turn 10, so would you be ok with me starting turn summaries as long as I stay 10 turns behind?
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 22, 2012, 04:33:20 am
Post by: Karlito on November 22, 2012, 12:19:48 pm
Post by: Bluerobin on November 22, 2012, 01:45:34 pm
Post by: Boksi on November 23, 2012, 12:24:30 am
Post by: Karlito on November 23, 2012, 01:07:47 am
Post by: Ghazkull on November 23, 2012, 01:27:36 pm
we would like to greet you, hope for good relationships between our two Kingdoms and respect our claim on the Sea and its surrounding Coastal Regions.
with great fhgarn,
Great Floglran Sksun'dis
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 26, 2012, 04:21:21 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on November 26, 2012, 01:23:03 pm
(Though, with only an hour left, you probably won't see this until the turn hosts without you regardless. :()
Post by: Karlito on November 26, 2012, 01:27:15 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 26, 2012, 04:41:27 pm
Post by: gp1628 on November 27, 2012, 01:38:18 pm
Dominions 3 patch version 3.28 is released. Since there is presently no publisher for the game, you need to go directly to www.Illwinter.com to get the patch. Soon hopefully the game, and patches, will be available on Desura GamersGate and Steam.
Illwinters other game Conquest of Elysium 3 also has released a patch recently.
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 28, 2012, 08:48:01 am
also danm it my army is pathetic >,<
Post by: a1s on November 28, 2012, 09:04:15 am
And if you think you have problems, you should see my sorry affairs.
Post by: Burnt Pies on November 28, 2012, 09:59:57 am
You could be Caelum.
Post by: Karlito on November 28, 2012, 11:56:38 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: a1s on November 28, 2012, 01:39:26 pm
Post by: a1s on November 29, 2012, 04:42:22 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 29, 2012, 06:06:07 pm
Post by: Karlito on November 29, 2012, 09:56:08 pm
Post by: Korbac on November 29, 2012, 10:01:21 pm
Post by: Bluerobin on November 29, 2012, 11:01:30 pm
Post by: a1s on November 30, 2012, 12:48:08 am
Duck how come you were forced? And has the server not been updated?It's the opposite. The server has been updated and the game told me my version was too out of date to play the turn.
Wait... has this not happened to anyone else?
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 30, 2012, 06:33:35 am
Post by: Knave on November 30, 2012, 08:12:03 am
Post by: a1s on November 30, 2012, 08:50:44 am
canna create config file ? :(yup.
Post by: Karlito on November 30, 2012, 09:13:46 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on November 30, 2012, 11:55:20 am
canna create config file ? :(yup.
thats what im getting as well :(
Post by: Knave on December 01, 2012, 12:58:57 am
Post by: a1s on December 01, 2012, 04:26:03 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 01, 2012, 08:12:50 am
Post by: Karlito on December 01, 2012, 11:05:25 am
Post by: Burnt Pies on December 02, 2012, 12:45:37 pm
In this spirit, I must inform you that we march on Ivenmoor Keep.
Post by: Karlito on December 02, 2012, 02:00:22 pm
Also, I suspect Hydra morale is broken and only takes into account the 6 hitpoints that the first form has for purposes of route checks. I suppose I'll have to find someone to cast touch of madness on them or something...
Post by: Ghazkull on December 04, 2012, 09:07:38 am
Post by: Karlito on December 06, 2012, 10:17:18 am
Post by: Knave on December 06, 2012, 10:27:25 am
Post by: a1s on December 06, 2012, 10:32:37 am
So, a few of you are pretty regularly missing the deadline. What gives?Maybe they don't want to play? There's no shame in it, guys, just tell us.
Post by: Shadowgandor on December 06, 2012, 11:16:13 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 06, 2012, 11:20:40 am
EDIT: Fuck its been 2 turns i have missed O.o, sorry my days have been merging into one big day recently
Post by: Knave on December 06, 2012, 01:24:37 pm
Post by: Karlito on December 06, 2012, 01:38:59 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 06, 2012, 04:34:12 pm
Post by: a1s on December 06, 2012, 04:38:06 pm
Of course, we need an active game admin to make that work well.Not a problem- we just need a co-admin. I can volunteer, if no one else wants to.
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 06, 2012, 05:30:36 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on December 07, 2012, 02:29:37 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on December 07, 2012, 04:17:48 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 08, 2012, 03:21:23 pm
I'm very pleased and saddened I had 10 level 4 in fire grand mages stationed to attack :P
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 10, 2012, 12:31:29 pm
Post by: Ghazkull on December 10, 2012, 03:55:40 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 10, 2012, 04:21:08 pm
Post by: Karlito on December 10, 2012, 04:25:08 pm
Post by: puntocom on December 11, 2012, 03:32:17 pm
Post by: Knave on December 15, 2012, 08:03:45 pm
Not sure if I'm going to have a spare moment to process a turn tonight, if I could get a 6 hour extension, that'd be swell. If not though I'll try to quickly shoot off a turn!
Post by: a1s on December 15, 2012, 08:22:09 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on December 18, 2012, 10:44:09 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 18, 2012, 11:40:27 am
Post by: Knave on December 19, 2012, 01:45:16 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on December 19, 2012, 02:22:08 pm
Post by: puntocom on December 19, 2012, 03:56:10 pm
Lets just say Ermor bit off a bit more then he could chew ;)
Are you sure? See again my army statics and yours...
Post by: Karlito on December 19, 2012, 04:13:53 pm
Post by: Shadowgandor on December 19, 2012, 06:03:32 pm
Lets just say Ermor bit off a bit more then he could chew ;)
Are you sure? See again my army statics and yours...
Barely any difference at all!
Post by: MentalFather on December 20, 2012, 07:08:34 am
If you lose the same amount of troops than him, then you are somehow losing.
Post by: Shadowgandor on December 20, 2012, 07:25:17 am
Post by: gp1628 on December 20, 2012, 01:40:59 pm
A new DEMO is available for Linux and Windows and Mac OSX. The new demo is caught up on all of the patched changes to the game.
Also for those who have the Dom3 game already, Illwinter has added the 300 page manual to their page as a free PDF download.
http://www.illwinter.com/
The demo limits research to level 4, and limits the playable classes. But it does now give a correct impression of the play and the system requirements.
The demo DOES allow for multiplay with friends.
The server www.Dom3Minions.com has more info and open games for DEMO play.
Post by: puntocom on December 20, 2012, 06:05:15 pm
Post by: MentalFather on December 20, 2012, 06:56:48 pm
I think it would be a nice idea (8 hours to the end of the turn and 6 persons didn't send it). :)
Post by: Boksi on December 20, 2012, 07:15:26 pm
Post by: Knave on December 22, 2012, 12:57:33 pm
Just wanted to wish y'all some happy holidays and ask if how everyone's schedule is over the next week. It's a bit of a hectic time what with family visits and Christmas parties. Should we add some extra time onto the next turn or two to compensate for this? Or is everyone okay with the current 48 hrs?
Post by: Burnt Pies on December 22, 2012, 04:15:26 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on December 22, 2012, 06:29:11 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on December 23, 2012, 11:12:00 pm
(I am of course also willing to offer gold from the great nation of T'ien Ch'i's coffers, but I doubt anyone would be willing to take me up on that offer; gems for gold is usually not a good trade for the one getting gold.)
Post by: a1s on December 24, 2012, 04:22:51 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 24, 2012, 03:59:04 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on December 25, 2012, 05:16:10 am
(On a sidenote, how are you guys letting ermor surive anyway? Ermor = auto-aggro from all players that know the game... or... right guys?)
Post by: Il Palazzo on December 25, 2012, 06:50:14 am
(On a sidenote, how are you guys letting ermor surive anyway? Ermor = auto-aggro from all players that know the game... or... right guys?)That's what players-who-know-the-game-a-little think about LA Ermor.
Post by: a1s on December 25, 2012, 10:00:37 am
(I am of course also willing to offer gold from the great nation of T'ien Ch'i's coffers, but I doubt anyone would be willing to take me up on that offer; gems for gold is usually not a good trade for the one getting gold.)Really? Well I'd love to offer anyone any gem* for 75 gold a pop (price may change on some other turn). Also exchange any 3 gems for any 2, why not? Offers by PM.
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Ulm does not endorse slavery, so that's only gems and pearls.
Post by: Karlito on December 25, 2012, 09:46:04 pm
(On a sidenote, how are you guys letting ermor surive anyway? Ermor = auto-aggro from all players that know the game... or... right guys?)That's what players-who-know-the-game-a-little think about LA Ermor.
Plus this game is MA, not LA. Ermor probably is due for an attack-from-multiple-sides, but that's more a function of his size and central location than the fact of being Ermor.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on December 25, 2012, 11:16:44 pm
Post by: Kebooo on December 26, 2012, 09:21:55 am
Post by: ThtblovesDF on December 26, 2012, 11:09:09 am
Mostly I play Ryl'eh, if I can get my hands on them, oh fishy overlords, alternative choices are:
EA: Yomi, Van & Helheim, Lankah
MA: Pangea, Arco, Agartha (beware, if they ever get to late game), C'tis
LA: Whatever, they are all nuts :D
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on December 26, 2012, 11:03:25 pm
Edit: Also if no one minded I would probably record my turns as I go and then after the game was done release them over a few days as YouTube is severely lacking in Dom3 lets plays.
Post by: Karlito on December 26, 2012, 11:04:32 pm
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on December 26, 2012, 11:16:10 pm
Scratch that, its an excuse. I recognize you for what you are past self, you will not hold me back from playing Dom3 with opponents that can actually be worthy of being called such. I will set up round 11 thread and post in both current round threads once I got it posted. Because I started it though unless most people want to play a different age we are going early and I am taking T'ien Ch'i.
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on December 27, 2012, 03:34:10 am
Post by: gman8181 on December 29, 2012, 01:26:19 pm
Post by: Knave on December 29, 2012, 01:30:34 pm
Grah I've been too busy lately with holiday stuff, I didn't even notice this thread! I guess its too late now but any time there's an opening for a game I'd love to hop in. I prefer Ermor any age but I also like Marignon.
Check out this thread here: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=120941.0 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=120941.0) they're looking for more players!
In other news, The new turn is up people! Due on Monday!
Post by: ScriptWolf on December 30, 2012, 06:21:08 am
Post by: Burnt Pies on December 30, 2012, 10:11:18 am
Hope whatever you have goes away quickly!
Post by: Darkwind3 on December 30, 2012, 11:36:35 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 01, 2013, 08:13:51 pm
At any rate, I suggest to a1s and Scriptwolf that we get a third player, someone who's doing well (and thus invested in making sure the game go smoothly), both in the game and physically I guess. I, of course nominate myself. I promise I won't abuse my awesome powers if I get them! ;)
Post by: Knave on January 01, 2013, 09:21:54 pm
Twelve hours until the next turn, and three (soon to be four when I finally send mine in) players have sent files. Both of our illustrious admins are still missing. I guess a1s isn't too surprising, since his nation is Ulm, which is currently in a (very much losing) war against Eriu. With Scriptwolf in the hospital, we have two admins missing and no one left to postpone the turns for our admins, and everyone else who hasn't sent in turns. :(
At any rate, I suggest to a1s and Scriptwolf that we get a third player, someone who's doing well (and thus invested in making sure the game go smoothly), both in the game and physically I guess. I, of course nominate myself. I promise I won't abuse my awesome powers if I get them! ;)
Yes, having an active admin would probably help avoid a lot of the missed turns. I imagine it's a symptom of the holidays as well. We should probably also ask if any players need to be replaced? Though I suppose that's moot if we don't have an admin.
Post by: Ghazkull on January 02, 2013, 11:37:39 am
Post by: Shadowgandor on January 02, 2013, 12:44:27 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 02, 2013, 01:24:29 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 03, 2013, 05:35:11 pm
Also, I wouldn't really suggest setting yourself to AI if you're not at war. The AI declares war basically arbitrarily, and while it will probably not attack someone at random if it's about to die, if you're at peace there's a good chance the AI will just pick a neighbor at random to go to war with. Not to mention the AI is worse than even the worst of human players at this game, and we're just now getting to the point where battle magic to deal with the AI's chaff hordes is readily accessible. Setting yourself to AI basically means free provinces for the people around you.
Of course, finding a sub for a player even in the best situation is hard, too. Personally, when I think I can't win I just try to do as much as I can to wreck whoever wrecked me. It's very satisfying to know the guy who took your capital wishes they hadn't! :D if your last fort isn't about to fall, chances are you can turn your game around and, if not win, at least put in a strong showing. I know some of you guys are new to MP dominions, so I'd be willing to give you some advice if you think you need it, though you might want to try another source, like the IRC channel (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=25) or Dom3 wiki (http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Main_Page), considering I'm one of your rivals for godhood.
Post by: Karlito on January 04, 2013, 02:41:32 am
The game is basically over for Shadowgandor(Abysia), since the war with Ermor is going pretty poorly, so I understand that'd he'd want out. I'm not too sure what R'lyeh's problem is, except I think he didn't start in the larger ocean, which I guess has made things kind of difficult. Also, holy crap, there are still 75 independent provinces left! Definitely hope for all you smaller nations out there.
Post by: Ghazkull on January 04, 2013, 10:34:53 am
Post by: Knave on January 04, 2013, 11:02:13 am
Well, the problem is that i miss most of the turns either through being utterly forgetful or due to not being in the mood, turning the game into a chore. Besides i feel i either should play this game with full commitment or leave it be. Anyhow, uh how can i turn myself into AI?
I believe you can do it under options when you're running your turn, set nation to AI or somesuch. If you sent that in, I think it would switch it automatically. There might be an admin option as well.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 04, 2013, 01:09:41 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 04, 2013, 01:24:04 pm
Post by: Knave on January 04, 2013, 01:39:13 pm
Probably just MA R'lyeh at this point (maybe Marignon too? I don't know how long Scriptwolf will be in the hospital). I don't really know any details about the situation of either nation, except that they don't have very many provinces and have missed quite a few turns (and so are behind in commander recruitment and such).
Well Script is posting in other games talking about how much fun he is having playing Warframe, so if he's not back to his admin duties soon...
They both have low income/research(Though they may have quite a bit saved up from the recent missed turns?). Marignon has 12 provinces while R'lyeh has 8, 4 of which have forts.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 04, 2013, 01:45:34 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 04, 2013, 01:47:10 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 04, 2013, 01:51:42 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 04, 2013, 01:53:18 pm
Post by: Knave on January 04, 2013, 01:55:22 pm
I think Darkwind has volunteered his services for Co-Admin while others are not available.
edit: I think the Admin has to change the nation's e-mail address, and then you can request the turn be resent... I think?
Post by: Karlito on January 04, 2013, 02:04:59 pm
And yeah, I believe that's the procedure.
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 04, 2013, 02:20:14 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 04, 2013, 02:29:21 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 04, 2013, 03:04:41 pm
As a nation with no native blood access, though? In the early game? One that starts underwater (where blood slaves can't be gathered without exploiting the game engine)? That's a funky strategy. I guess no one would ever expect R'lyeh to start breaking out the blood magic before turn 40 or so (enough time to gather some blood slaves and empower), though.
Post by: Karlito on January 04, 2013, 03:11:41 pm
Post by: Knave on January 04, 2013, 04:50:41 pm
I'd think that using the keyboard shortcut (or however it is that it works) to allow for underwater bloodhunting would violate our "no exploits" rule, but I suppose that's for everyone to decide.
The blood of virgin fish people only angers the blood demons!
Post by: puntocom on January 05, 2013, 10:44:19 pm
Post by: MentalFather on January 07, 2013, 08:09:11 am
When do imprisoned gods wake up?
Also it seems everybody is silent now.
How is everybody doing?
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 07, 2013, 10:51:45 am
Post by: Karlito on January 07, 2013, 12:00:58 pm
My lovely goddess isn't here yet...
When do imprisoned gods wake up?
Approximately the three year mark. Most likely it will be somewhere between 6 and 8 turns.
Post by: Boksi on January 08, 2013, 01:53:12 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 08, 2013, 06:07:13 am
Post by: Knave on January 09, 2013, 11:18:28 am
Post by: Boksi on January 09, 2013, 11:21:57 am
ScriptWolf ScriptWolf ScriptWolf!
Post by: MentalFather on January 09, 2013, 11:58:08 am
Maybe we should get a sub for him...
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 10, 2013, 03:26:28 am
Post by: a1s on January 10, 2013, 06:53:39 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 10, 2013, 07:16:02 pm
Post by: MentalFather on January 11, 2013, 09:42:35 am
Marignon did too much stales. If he does 1 turn and stales 5, playing has no sense.
Discuss about it. Ok, maybe he can't send the turns. But if he can't send turns, why is he playing? I mean... he isn't really "playing" (staling isn't playing). :(
Post by: Knave on January 11, 2013, 09:56:21 am
I'm sad to say this, but we should search someone to take Marignon.
Marignon did too much stales. If he does 1 turn and stales 5, playing has no sense.
Discuss about it. Ok, maybe he can't send the turns. But if he can't send turns, why is he playing? I mean... he isn't really "playing" (staling isn't playing). :(
Fully agree, this is my first MP game, but 11 stalls in 30 turns seems ridiculous, no?
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 11, 2013, 11:55:52 am
infact it might be better to find someone to replace me, i have to much going on a work right sorry guys.
also guys remember i have also been really ill for about 2 weeks during christmas
Post by: Karlito on January 11, 2013, 11:58:33 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 11, 2013, 12:02:29 pm
In my defense though i did spend nearly 2 weeks being ill not touching the computer at all because i was to busy being sick and dieing :P
Post by: Knave on January 11, 2013, 01:01:15 pm
although, I should be able to just rush on and do a turn so i will see if i dont pick up anymore and stale 5 more turns feel free to replace me, i will carry on for now and try alot harder to turn in
In my defense though i did spend nearly 2 weeks being ill not touching the computer at all because i was to busy being sick and dieing :P
If you want to continue playing and turning in turns that's great, because replacing players is a hassle! :)
We just want to make sure all nations are competitive and you're playing because you're having fun and not out of obligation.
Post by: Karlito on January 11, 2013, 01:03:25 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 11, 2013, 01:13:48 pm
Post by: Knave on January 11, 2013, 03:45:38 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 11, 2013, 03:52:18 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on January 11, 2013, 04:23:59 pm
And yeah, priest spam might help vs the Longdead Horseman swarms.
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 12, 2013, 12:07:04 pm
I'm also willing to forge items in any path except for Death or Blood. Just the required gems for anything requiring up to 2 levels in the magic path, and a 20% markup for anything requiring above that (if I can forge it), so e.g. a Bane Venom Charm would be 10 Death gems, a Heart Finder Sword would be 18 Blood Slaves, and the Black Book of Secrets would be 10 Death gems and 10 blood slaves. I may be willing to accept other gem types than whatever is necessary for the forged item. Offers (both for gem and item trades) by PM.
Also, why would you need anything but infinite Maenad swarms, Knave? Sure, Ermor has more troops than you do, but they're chaff all the same, and Mass Protection + Weapons of Sharpness + Strength of Giants is not bad at all. :D Not to mention you can use stealth armies, which MA Ermor can't do, and that's not even getting into why you would want more priests when you don't appear to be at war with Ermor.
Post by: Knave on January 12, 2013, 05:46:04 pm
Also, why would you need anything but infinite Maenad swarms, Knave? Sure, Ermor has more troops than you do, but they're chaff all the same, and Mass Protection + Weapons of Sharpness + Strength of Giants is not bad at all. :D Not to mention you can use stealth armies, which MA Ermor can't do, and that's not even getting into why you would want more priests when you don't appear to be at war with Ermor.
Yet... :D
Better to have em and not need em, that need em and not have em! Plus we're not that far away from each other, though Ermor has to get through Caelum to get to me.
Stealthy Holy commanders are pretty great to have, and a hoard of naked ladies IS WAY more
Post by: MentalFather on January 13, 2013, 06:21:35 am
Post by: a1s on January 14, 2013, 02:33:59 pm
You'll have to remind me of your rates as well.
I'd love to offer anyone any gem* for7550 gold a pop (price may change on some other turn). Also exchange any 3 gems for any 2, why not? Offers by PM.
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*Ulm does not endorse slavery, so that's only gems and pearls.
Post by: gman8181 on January 14, 2013, 03:37:32 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 16, 2013, 11:52:42 am
Might be a certain religious fanatic group, yes?
-Ryl'eh btw.
If I would be more land-bound, i guess i wouldn't even have had the chance to take over and play the old squids...
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 16, 2013, 01:20:40 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 16, 2013, 01:21:15 pm
Man, that guy inspiring unrest is annoying... now I wonder who has spys that isntall unrest and is currently hanging out with a huge army next to my capital/borders, mhmm...
Might be a certain religious fanatic group, yes?
-Ryl'eh btw.
If I would be more land-bound, i guess i wouldn't even have had the chance to take over and play the old squids...
ALSO YOU KNOW NOTHING ! LIES LIESSSSSSSS ALL IS FINE
also i really do want to join another game i can feel im going to lose all my shit is way to expensive :/.
anyway i have lost my job so at least i can play more now hehe...... and sort my empire out.
also Ryl'eh im doing nothing wrong as far as i know i have not attacked you out ;) - if i attacked you you would be fooked
also knave your pushing your luck with all that territory your grabbing
also i finally got over my paranoia and installed thunderbird for emails so i will get them a lot easier now
Post by: Knave on January 16, 2013, 02:01:09 pm
knave cut that shit out with the scouts :P
also knave your pushing your luck with all that territory your grabbing
Pushing my luck? It was empty and neutral, plus the forest creatures of Pangaea are a peaceful folk (barring a few suicidal scouts that didn't know how to stay hidden. Never send a human to do a harpy's job!). Tay'Gro wants nothing more than to coexist peacefully with the other nations and rule over the world as the one true God :P
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 16, 2013, 02:07:41 pm
knave cut that shit out with the scouts :P
also knave your pushing your luck with all that territory your grabbing
Pushing my luck? It was empty and neutral, plus the forest creatures of Pangaea are a peaceful folk (barring a few suicidal scouts that didn't know how to stay hidden. Never send a human to do a harpy's job!). Tay'Gro wants nothing more than to coexist peacefully with the other nations and rule over the world as the one true God :P
you can keep that out my bloody territory as well ! :P
time to up my defense to 200 on my 2 bordering tiles to you :P
Post by: Knave on January 16, 2013, 02:35:49 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 16, 2013, 02:44:16 pm
200 PD per province, eh? Sounds.... expensive. I could think of a few things that I would rather spend my money on.
you see stale rounds have a lot of use ;) and i also have a huge army backing that as well
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 19, 2013, 09:11:10 am
Post by: MentalFather on January 19, 2013, 09:44:40 am
I think you literally can't send 2 turns in a row.
If you install dominions fast you can still send the turn.
;)
EDIT: Well it seems the admin changed the "Next turn due" for you. Send it as soon as possible.
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 19, 2013, 10:04:37 am
More seriously, I don't want to rush you, ScriptWolf, but I don't want to hold the game back a bit if everyone is chomping at the bit to get their next turn. If you really don't think you can get everything running in the next day or so to send in your turn, I'll forcehost the turn.
Or, you can forcehost it yourself! It's not like I changed the admin password. You can give yourself an extra hour (or two, or ten) whenever you want!
Post by: MentalFather on January 19, 2013, 03:00:00 pm
I think the last 33 turns were exactly 48 hours turns. We have never finished the turn before the 'New turn due'... :(
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 19, 2013, 03:13:01 pm
and well mental i do have a lot to do :P not really adventure just busy and shit happen :P
i will install tomorrow im not at home tonight. and then sort it all out.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 20, 2013, 08:05:37 am
Post by: MentalFather on January 20, 2013, 01:08:58 pm
Well, then I think he has one in my lands. In a province with too many mountains to have more than 20 income. So 2 gold less because of the spy. Effective, it seems. ;)
I'm almost sure he forgot them and they are in random provinces.
Post by: Karlito on January 20, 2013, 04:36:04 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 21, 2013, 04:10:35 am
Post by: a1s on January 21, 2013, 07:55:28 am
who the hell goes installing unrest in a randrom province of the weakest nation?Huh? No one's instilling unrest in my lands. :P
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 21, 2013, 09:21:05 am
Must build a bigger army !
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 22, 2013, 01:33:09 pm
Sorry?
Post by: Knave on January 23, 2013, 10:03:12 am
Post by: a1s on January 23, 2013, 11:43:15 am
So I see a lot of shifting province counts. Anyone wanna share their tales of war and glory(or defeat)?I shall be dead soon (Ulm) and might type up an AAR.
Post by: puntocom on January 23, 2013, 06:24:52 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 23, 2013, 07:08:28 pm
I will be alot more active seeing as though my busy phase has now dropped off
Post by: a1s on January 23, 2013, 11:32:57 pm
Post by: Karlito on January 23, 2013, 11:47:37 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 24, 2013, 09:29:36 am
i cant find my dom3 back up anywhere and i have lost the emails any way I can get my code and download back ? :/
Post by: Knave on January 24, 2013, 09:44:45 am
shit....
i cant find my dom3 back up anywhere and i have lost the emails any way I can get my code and download back ? :/
If it was just the game download I could probably assist, but if you're missing your serial key as well you'll probably have to contact Shrapnel or the game download service (forget the name) they use and see if they can resend.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 24, 2013, 09:49:11 am
also are some people AI ? seems to be 4 of us so farm not put in turns :P
Post by: Knave on January 24, 2013, 09:55:47 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 24, 2013, 10:00:14 am
Post by: MentalFather on January 24, 2013, 02:59:38 pm
Post by: Knave on January 24, 2013, 05:32:47 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 24, 2013, 05:45:46 pm
2 hours left. Come on Scriptwolf! ;)
I did put im had to contact shrapnel to get my game back :/ still waiting on their reply :(
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 27, 2013, 03:19:55 pm
Well, Three Gorges Dam has its work cut out for it. Plenty to do!
I assume by this point it's obvious, from the name, my scales, and Three Gorges Dam's imprisonment, what sort of pretender I went with. It seems to have served well so far, but we'll see how this works in the future.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 28, 2013, 04:44:55 am
Talked to shrapnel and they refuse to help me due to not being the publisher anymore.... Not sure what to do really ( going to sea is not a option )
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 28, 2013, 06:15:59 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 28, 2013, 06:32:49 am
Wish illwinter had contact email so I could contact them about my plight
Post by: Knave on January 28, 2013, 08:03:53 am
EDIT: PM'd you.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 28, 2013, 08:11:31 am
Do you use the windows version?
EDIT: PM'd you.
Yeah windows haha and thanks mate :) I shall back this up this time !
I'm not at home tonight but tomorrow I will have it all sorted.
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 28, 2013, 03:26:15 pm
Urh not to sound like a ass but i really don't want to buy it again it was very expensive. I did manage to pry my keys from shrapnel though... I just need the game.. I might just pirate the game and use my keys seems like the only option though I really don't want to do not. Not cause I don't like pirating, just alot of stuff like that is full of malware.I felt like an ass suggesting you re-buy a game you already bought :-\ Good to see you're beginning to get your stuff back together though. Hopefully you can end this streak of stales!
Wish illwinter had contact email so I could contact them about my plight
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 28, 2013, 11:12:56 pm
Anyway I will have my game up and running tomorrow when I'm back at home :)
And no need to feel like a ass silly it was a viable suggestion :) and one I was close to doing till Knave saved me.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 29, 2013, 02:56:19 pm
Post by: Boksi on January 29, 2013, 03:04:57 pm
guys how do i go about getting my pretender back ? :PGet your priests to 'Call God'. More priests calling mean he gets back quicker, and holier priests are better than lower-level ones.
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 29, 2013, 03:23:31 pm
guys how do i go about getting my pretender back ? :PGet your priests to 'Call God'. More priests calling mean he gets back quicker, and holier priests are better than lower-level ones.
sorry i thought i needed my pretender file, but it seems not. my stale streak has been broken huzah
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 29, 2013, 03:54:43 pm
Welcome back
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 29, 2013, 05:02:32 pm
Post by: puntocom on January 29, 2013, 05:18:57 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 29, 2013, 05:46:30 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 30, 2013, 05:35:35 am
**I just checked the graphs... we are pretty much the weakest nations in the game, I'm sure this will help us both... yeah...
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 30, 2013, 06:06:18 am
Also I have about 10 more level 4-5 fire mages back home and they are all grand masters that's why the inflictions they tend to be quite old.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on January 30, 2013, 07:12:02 am
Post by: Knave on January 30, 2013, 10:46:39 am
Post by: ScriptWolf on January 30, 2013, 03:02:53 pm
also you keep spys away from me knave ! i have found several traversing into my territory im not happy
Post by: Darkwind3 on January 30, 2013, 09:00:21 pm
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 03, 2013, 02:38:56 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on February 03, 2013, 02:39:23 pm
*edit* Oh Karma - script betrays ryleh, gets betrayed himself. Fun fun~
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 03, 2013, 02:41:59 pm
Post by: Knave on February 03, 2013, 02:54:58 pm
what the hell knave ? We had a deal! >,> just to let you know that little stunt has upped my defense over the 100s, now
That Dryad was merely a Pangaea ambassador! Bearing gifts of friendship obviously...
Met with a wall of arrow and halberds *sniff* not very neighbourly :'(
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 03, 2013, 04:01:29 pm
what the hell knave ? We had a deal! >,> just to let you know that little stunt has upped my defense over the 100s, now
That Dryad was merely a Pangaea ambassador! Bearing gifts of friendship obviously...
Met with a wall of arrow and halberds *sniff* not very neighbourly :'(
bah that dryad also had a platoon of centaurs ! not happy >,>
Post by: Boksi on February 06, 2013, 05:32:34 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 06, 2013, 05:43:58 pm
I know I've been staling a bit lately, but this time I can't get my turn done in time because of factors outside of my control rather than laziness. It'd be nice to get a 24 hour extension.No problem! Done.
You've been staling? As far as I can see, you've submitted all your turns. Though, I guess they might have been very quick or just empty, since the game doesn't sever what you actually do in the turn so much as whether it exists.
Post by: puntocom on February 09, 2013, 04:05:46 pm
could we have a 24h extension?
Thanks.
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 09, 2013, 04:43:13 pm
Hello,Done.
could we have a 24h extension?
Thanks.
Post by: a1s on February 10, 2013, 06:24:48 pm
Post by: Knave on February 10, 2013, 08:02:38 pm
would people mind if I went AI?
While it's always sad to see a player go, consider Ulm no longer has any unsieged provinces, I think it'd be more than understandable! GG a1s!
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 12, 2013, 07:13:46 pm
e: especially since just about everyone's sent in their turns already for once!
Post by: Knave on February 15, 2013, 01:36:24 pm
Post by: MentalFather on February 16, 2013, 12:44:46 am
Since turns now are longer maybe we should do them more than 48 hours.
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 16, 2013, 08:52:51 am
I'm really sorry, but i would need at least an extension of 12 hours.I happen to agree, so I've taken the liberty of extending the hosting interval to 60 hours. Hopefully that's long enough to continue giving people some time but not excessively long.
Since turns now are longer maybe we should do them more than 48 hours.
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 17, 2013, 11:15:46 am
Post by: MentalFather on February 17, 2013, 12:57:18 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 17, 2013, 04:18:46 pm
I love all this hate. :)You and me both, friend. :D
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 17, 2013, 05:20:31 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on February 18, 2013, 03:36:17 am
Post by: MentalFather on February 18, 2013, 09:15:58 am
I love all this hate. :)You and me both, friend. :D
I love the way you control people and lead them to attack whoever you want.
You are great at diplomacy. :)
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 18, 2013, 04:23:40 pm
Really, I think right now those two are the dominant powers. They've had plenty of space and time to put their plans into motion. If they go to war I imagine the winner of the game will be whichever one of them comes out on top, simply because those of us to the east are too busy embroiled in squabbling to do something about it.
On that note, I have to say I feel sorry for you, Burnt Pies. Dead last in province, fort, army size, and income, and third-to-last in gem income (what have you been doing, Scriptwolf?! :o I feel really bad for Thtb right now as well), with one of the major powers barreling down on you. Ouch.
Post by: Boksi on February 18, 2013, 04:31:16 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on February 18, 2013, 04:45:35 pm
Post by: Karlito on February 18, 2013, 06:09:19 pm
There are quite a few nations I'm sure are happily clamming their way to stardom, I'm sure, and judging by what I can see of Pythium's attack on Caelum they've been putting their mighty gem income to good use. (Jesus so many Harbingers.) Not to mention whatever Pangaea is doing!
Really, I think right now those two are the dominant powers. They've had plenty of space and time to put their plans into motion. If they go to war I imagine the winner of the game will be whichever one of them comes out on top, simply because those of us to the east are too busy embroiled in squabbling to do something about it.
Heh, well maybe. The research gap between me and three ahead of me is pretty worrying (not taking any magic scales was a dumb idea), and while being able to do nothing but fight independents for the whole game has allowed me to expand nicely, I haven't had much opportunity to battle-test my troops. Plus, round 11 has taught me a healthy appreciation for Pangaea; at least I'm equipped to deal with undead.
Post by: Knave on February 19, 2013, 11:57:48 am
Post by: Karlito on February 19, 2013, 07:22:50 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on February 19, 2013, 07:45:50 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 19, 2013, 07:57:57 pm
On the positive side, Swift, Terrible Vengeance is now in the hall of fame. Somehow.
By the sounds of it though Eriu and I are not the only ones who've had an eventful turn.
Post by: MentalFather on February 21, 2013, 03:25:30 pm
And... Wasn't cold resistance supposed to protect from the cold damage of Frost brand?
My fatty girl... :(
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 21, 2013, 04:09:18 pm
Yes dammit! I think i'm too much stupid and unlucky guy in the world... :(The frost brand itself is just a sword. I'm pretty sure that cold resistance protected from the area-of-effect damage the Frost Brand causes, but the sword can still stab dudes mighty fine. Likewise, fire resistance doesn't grant immunity to a fire brand - the sword that's on fire won't light you on fire but it is still sharp and pointy. If you want to protect yourself from swords, I suggest not getting hit. ;)
And... Wasn't cold resistance supposed to protect from the cold damage of Frost brand?
My fatty girl... :(
Don't feel too bad, though. I lost a gargoyle to Ermor and didn't even win the battle! Pain in the butt, that. Gargoyles aren't cheap, you know, especially with the number of items I throw on them 9which I should really tone down).
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 22, 2013, 05:27:04 am
Post by: Knave on February 22, 2013, 08:26:15 am
And thanks for the extension!
Post by: puntocom on February 22, 2013, 12:14:09 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on February 23, 2013, 01:23:21 am
There go my capital and my pretender.
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 24, 2013, 07:35:03 pm
Post by: Knave on February 25, 2013, 07:56:17 am
After our brief foray into 60-hour turns, I think it would be best to change it to 72 hours, since 2.5 days seems to be harder to remember than a whole number (and possibly doesn't give people enough time to work). Hopefully this way everyone will be able to get their turns on time. :)
I'm definitely okay with more time as I seem to need it! Good news is we haven't seemed to have any stalls in a number of turns, so that's something :)
Post by: Knave on February 25, 2013, 04:30:13 pm
Perferable 5 to 10.
I have everything (including blood slaves for you more nefarious types) but Astral and Nature Gem to offer. Please let me know if we can make a trade. I might also be able to craft you something in return!
Post by: ScriptWolf on February 26, 2013, 06:00:52 pm
Also must turtle more enemies on all sides!!
Post by: ThtblovesDF on February 27, 2013, 06:17:09 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on February 28, 2013, 05:13:06 pm
Also, please note that admins are human beings too and will not always be able to magically save you from staling if you don't speak up. Or even if you do speak up, but do it only an hour from the deadline. If something comes up, ask for an extension. It's no big deal! Everybody has to get that paper to their boss by tomorrow, or study for the big test, or have a Nethack marathon over the weekend rather than anything productive.
Post by: MentalFather on March 01, 2013, 05:02:41 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 01, 2013, 05:24:11 pm
Sad end for that heroic gargoyle... Numbness to death...Spoilers! :P (I haven't even opened my turn yet, though I will soon after hearing something like that!)
To be honest, I've been having a lot of trouble with overestimating my thugs (as I'm sure you know). I do my turn, think "screw it he's survived crap before he'll be fine), and send yet another thug to a predictable death against forces I knew were capable of killing him and merely poorly scripted before (or unlucky, that poor Great Mother ;)). I can only hope this turn wasn't an unmitigated disaster for me. Truly, this is a sad day. However, Swift, Terrible Vengeance's comrades shall take up his cause!
Post by: Knave on March 01, 2013, 05:36:03 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 01, 2013, 05:58:43 pm
Battle report please :DIt's not actually interesting. I attack a province with just the thug, he has 11 commanders there, they spam Numbness (which paralyzes him) and kill him slowly.
What's impressive is that Eriu's PD managed to fend off one of my attacks entirely by itself, somehow. Very frustrating, too. To be honest, Eriu would probably be winning the war if Mentalfather had spent his gold on forts and sidhe instead of PD.
Post by: MentalFather on March 01, 2013, 06:03:40 pm
2 mages and some army for only 31 defenses is great.
Maybe bad troop management for you. :P
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 01, 2013, 06:39:07 pm
I have gold enough for Sidhe and PD, don't worry.More like bad mage management. :P But yes, my lack of troops compared to your, what, 25 PD? certainly didn't help. If I had known that you would splurge for that much PD I certainly would have scripted differently.
2 mages and some army for only 31 defenses is great.
Maybe bad troop management for you. :P
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 03, 2013, 08:26:40 pm
Post by: Knave on March 04, 2013, 08:01:03 am
Karlito's been staling for the last few turns, so I've postponed the turn for the moment (Scriptwolf and Knave also have yet to send in their turns as well, though there is some time left so those two might send it in soon). If he doesn't pop back in soon, we might have to consider finding a sub. Hopefully you can all live with having to wait a day or so longer to get to the next turn :D Turn 50 here we come! The late game is fast approaching, and I think we'll have a winner before turn 70. (I hope we will, because the micromanagement by that point would be horrendous.)
To be fair, I sent it in, but the server was down so it didn't read my turn :P
And it looks like his turn is in now, so it's just ScriptWolf again. C'mon Marignon!
Post by: Karlito on March 04, 2013, 09:46:43 am
Spotty internet access and poor planning led me to miss those two turns, but I'm definitely back on it. I'm glad my turn processed, I submitted it like four times over the course of the day yesterday.
Post by: ScriptWolf on March 05, 2013, 01:04:30 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 06, 2013, 07:02:53 am
Post by: Ghazkull on March 06, 2013, 09:11:17 am
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 06, 2013, 09:18:43 am
I adore Ry'leh and wouldn't let them stale for anything, but this ship has left its squidy-tentacly-port a while ago : P
Post by: MentalFather on March 07, 2013, 04:39:49 am
12 hours would be okay.
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 07, 2013, 06:18:35 am
I would need a little extension to do the turn.No problem!
12 hours would be okay.
By the way, five other people (so, not including Eriu) also haven't sent in their turns. If you're playing Caelum, Ermor, Marignon, Pangaea or Pythium, you might want to send your turn. :)
Post by: Knave on March 07, 2013, 08:15:27 am
I would need a little extension to do the turn.No problem!
12 hours would be okay.
By the way, five other people (so, not including Eriu) also haven't sent in their turns. If you're playing Caelum, Ermor, Marignon, Pangaea or Pythium, you might want to send your turn. :)
Yeah lost track of time with SimCity last night (whoops!) and was going to send it this morning, but the extra time helps. Many thanks!
Post by: Karlito on March 07, 2013, 09:39:41 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 10, 2013, 06:51:34 pm
Well, I meant to postpone the turn an hour ago, since half the game hadn't sent in their turns. I also did my turn and meant to send it in, so I guess we know what intentions get you. :( Oh well, hopefully nothing apocalyptic happened.
Pan, Marignon and Pythium all also staled. Do we need to increase the turn timer? I've noticed a lot of people sending in their turns at the last moment.
e: As it turns out, I actually did email the turn in. Well, I made the email, at least. I forgot to actually send it!
Post by: Karlito on March 10, 2013, 08:45:43 pm
I forgot to actually email it in again, didn't I? :(
Post by: Knave on March 10, 2013, 11:53:03 pm
Post by: MentalFather on March 14, 2013, 08:48:15 am
8 players left.
You guys are very quiet these days.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 14, 2013, 08:49:42 am
Not much going on here, just all mindhunts failing and nearly watching erius pretender die to a random barbarian swarm.
I already have void eyes and magic amuletts to buff penetration, not much else I can do without astral caps.
Post by: Knave on March 14, 2013, 09:08:55 am
Missing turn 51 set me back a bit, but hopefully things are picking up.
Anyone have any death gems they're willing to trade?
Post by: MentalFather on March 14, 2013, 10:50:55 am
Not much going on here, just all mindhunts failing and nearly watching erius pretender die to a random barbarian swarm.
I already have void eyes and magic amuletts to buff penetration, not much else I can do without astral caps.
That barbarian horde didn't even touch my pretender. You are the only one who lose pretenders to independents :)
I still think you play random.
And you are wasting too much gems trying to mindhunt. Don't you have any useful spell to cast?
About Marignon I'm agree. At least now he defends himself.
I had the same problem with Ulm: he started to be a menace when he became AI.
What is the problem with Karlito? I really thought he was going to win this game... His stales are starting to make me doubt.
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 14, 2013, 11:07:00 am
And you forget, MentalFather, T'ien Ch'i can also mind Hunt! It's a pain in the ass to set up for sure, but two gems per turn per mindhunt is a drop in the bucket of the infinite resources of Glorious Motherland T'ien Ch'i :P .
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 14, 2013, 11:17:00 am
Post by: MentalFather on March 14, 2013, 12:27:29 pm
And you forget, MentalFather, T'ien Ch'i can also mind Hunt! It's a pain in the ass to set up for sure, but two gems per turn per mindhunt is a drop in the bucket of the infinite resources of Glorious Motherland T'ien Ch'i :P .
Oh my. Are you two guys mind-snipping me? T.T
Dammit :(
Cthulhu's little brother was dead last turn, but it seems he is back to life. Dammit!
I really hate micromanagement... Too much commanders and too much spellcasters :(
Dominions becomes a micromanagement monster after 40-50 turns.
Post by: puntocom on March 14, 2013, 12:51:33 pm
PD: Guys, what do you think about starting a new game?
Post by: ScriptWolf on March 14, 2013, 01:39:43 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 14, 2013, 05:58:16 pm
Post by: MentalFather on March 14, 2013, 06:27:22 pm
So either I lost my pretender and got him back in the span of 2 turns... or maybe I used Magic : )?
?
I mean i saw him dead in the hall of the fame last turn.
And yes, you can revive a god in 2 turn with some priests (i did it).
Post by: Karlito on March 14, 2013, 07:48:05 pm
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 15, 2013, 03:52:05 am
@Mentalfather; I used Teleport to get him back home after he retreated from the fight, he didn't die (and I can't see him in the hall of fame?).
Post by: MentalFather on March 15, 2013, 09:06:29 am
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/3pzwq.png) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/3pzwq)
EDIT: I would join to other game, since I'm only in this.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on March 15, 2013, 09:48:51 am
He is there, just fine, in my capital ~
So I would assume he died previously before I started to play ry'leh (explaining the †) and then slipped off because other things got more xp then him.
Post by: Knave on March 15, 2013, 10:33:46 am
Oh great i royally fucked up XP
My Pretender is dead
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think Ghaz accidently got him killed a while back.
Post by: MentalFather on March 15, 2013, 04:10:17 pm
Oh great i royally fucked up XP
My Pretender is dead
Yeah, now that you mention it, I think Ghaz accidently got him killed a while back.
Oh, nice to know it!
Everything is okay now : )
Post by: Karlito on March 16, 2013, 06:14:26 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 16, 2013, 06:29:25 pm
Ah dang. Any chance of a last-minute 6 hour extension?Well, it's a last-10-minute 6 hour extension, but you've got it. Try to notify me earlier though, maybe? ;)
Post by: MentalFather on March 16, 2013, 06:33:06 pm
It seems Karlito has problems again.
And what is about Caelum?
It seems Pythium and Caelum are fighting, but both are staling. : P
Post by: Karlito on March 16, 2013, 08:53:51 pm
Post by: Burnt Pies on March 16, 2013, 09:27:43 pm
Post by: Endymion on March 17, 2013, 10:57:51 pm
This is the Hall of Fame of the turn 52.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/3pzwq.png) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/3pzwq)
EDIT: I would join to other game, since I'm only in this.
Hmm... A little bit of competition from the round 11 game. We're only on turn 37, but our top Hall of Famer is 158 kills and 76 experience. Which would put her I think 5th on your chart. I'm certain in our next 15 turns we'll be able to overtake your game's puny hall of fame.
Edit: whoa botched formatting. My bad.
Post by: MentalFather on March 19, 2013, 03:26:01 pm
This is the Hall of Fame of the turn 52.
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/3pzwq.png) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/3pzwq)
Hmm... A little bit of competition from the round 11 game. We're only on turn 37, but our top Hall of Famer is 158 kills and 76 experience. Which would put her I think 5th on your chart. I'm certain in our next 15 turns we'll be able to overtake your game's puny hall of fame.
EDIT: I would join to other game, since I'm only in this.
Ok.
Post by: Boksi on March 19, 2013, 04:21:23 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 19, 2013, 04:51:45 pm
Ah frig, looks like I can't get my turn in today. Mind giving me an extension?I was just about to extend the turn for myself! :P No problem.
Post by: Knave on March 20, 2013, 05:54:40 pm
Ah frig, looks like I can't get my turn in today. Mind giving me an extension?I was just about to extend the turn for myself! :P No problem.
I also appreciate the extension as well! My body has been a bit fever-stricken the past few days.
Turn has been sent in anyways!
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 23, 2013, 06:15:38 pm
In other news, I've been thinking about starting another round after this one ends, using the Nationgen mod from Dom3mods. It's been used in multiplayer before, multiple times, so it can definitely work. I know I've heard others talking about doing it on around here before, so hopefully there will be some interest.
e: Caelum, C'tis, Ermor and Eriu hadn't sent in their turns. Already Eriu and Ermor have! I guess you guys just forgot to send in your turns?
Post by: Boksi on March 23, 2013, 06:52:28 pm
Post by: Knave on March 24, 2013, 12:36:58 am
Ah? Eh? Wha? Whu? Turn? Oh yeah, Dominions! Shoulda done it today! Whoops. I'll done it today. Wait, no that's impossible, it's eight minutes till tomorrow. I should get some sleep, maybe? Or maybe I'll go on an axe-murdering spree? Hmm, I think that's kinda not a good idea. Think I'll go to sleep after all.
:o
... I'm sort of glad C'tis is on the other side of the map from Pan :P
Post by: Karlito on March 30, 2013, 05:27:10 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 30, 2013, 06:20:58 pm
Anyone have a use for bloodslaves? I know there aren't too many nations that use them in MA, but I thought I'd ask. I've gotten quite a few through events, and I'm not able to use them for anything.I'd be willing to take them. :D A kickstart to a fledgling industry would be welcomed. Perhaps we can discuss this over PMs?
Post by: Darkwind3 on March 31, 2013, 01:03:22 pm
Post by: Knave on April 01, 2013, 03:31:04 pm
Though I hate to double-post, I've noticed that Burnt Pies/Caelum has staled for the last three turns. I've sent Burnt Pies a PM but she hasn't responded. Given Caelum's condition, I doubt any subs will come along. Should I have Caelum set to AI? An AI player is better than nothing at all (though admittedly only barely).
I guess given the circumstances, switching to AI would be the best bet. Too bad that he's gone MIA, but it sounds like playing got to be a bit of a chore with the number of losses he was being handed. :(
Post by: ThtblovesDF on April 02, 2013, 03:04:34 am
Post by: Knave on April 02, 2013, 08:40:06 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 02, 2013, 09:33:12 am
I got a stale? I did send in my turn on Sunday :/I've had turns get lost somewhere on occasion. It's a pain in the ass. As far as I know, if the Llamaserver sends you a confirmation e-mail it got your turn, so if you don't get a confirmation something went wrong.
Could I ask for a small, 12 hour extension? I'll try to get to a dominion-filled computer in time otherwise!No problem!
Post by: MentalFather on April 03, 2013, 07:01:16 am
( Great unit names, Darkwind :) )
Post by: Calahan on April 03, 2013, 05:04:28 pm
Given Caelum's condition, I doubt any subs will come along. Should I have Caelum set to AI? An AI player is better than nothing at all (though admittedly only barely).Hi everyone. Just a quick post to say that Darkwind asked me to turn Caelum AI. So just confirming that I have now done that.
Best of luck with the rest of the game.
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 07, 2013, 11:23:02 am
So I have a giant communion, with the master all ready to cast Army of Gold. I give him 3 gems, the cost of Army of Gold. I script him to cast Summon Earthpower first turn (he's got a Communion Matrix), Army of Gold second turn. He's the last mage to cast, so all the other mages will boost him up to cast Army of Gold. Impossible to screw up, right?
He uses a gem on Summon Earthpower! Then he summons a bunch of earth elementals instead of anything useful and I lose the damn battle. He should have been E5 already, but he thinks he isn't.
Well, there goes 100 units.
Post by: Knave on April 07, 2013, 12:13:37 pm
I hate communions so much.
So I have a giant communion, with the master all ready to cast Army of Gold. I give him 3 gems, the cost of Army of Gold. I script him to cast Summon Earthpower first turn (he's got a Communion Matrix), Army of Gold second turn. He's the last mage to cast, so all the other mages will boost him up to cast Army of Gold. Impossible to screw up, right?
He uses a gem on Summon Earthpower! Then he summons a bunch of earth elementals instead of anything useful and I lose the damn battle. He should have been E5 already, but he thinks he isn't.
Well, there goes 100 units.
Ouch, I'm rather scared of even trying a communion necause of all the horror stories I've heard. Maybe that'll be my goal for our NEXT round. And maybe a new version of the nation gen mod will come out.
Post by: Karlito on April 07, 2013, 02:08:16 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 09, 2013, 05:44:14 am
What unit did you use to try to cast Army of Gold? Was it a Celestial Master? (More importantly, what were its base magic paths?)It was an imperial Geomancer, the E1S1 mage. He had ~20 slaves though, so it shouldn't have been a problem.
Post by: Karlito on April 09, 2013, 01:35:22 pm
But in fact, Darkwind, it does matter that he was only E1. The path bonus from communions isn't calculated until the end of the turn (or maybe the beginning of the next one), so your Geomancer didn't have the E2 he needed to cast Summon Earthpower, which is why he used a gem. You should have given him either an additional earth gem, or used a E2 Imperial Alchemist.
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 09, 2013, 08:22:36 pm
But in fact, Darkwind, it does matter that he was only E1. The path bonus from communions isn't calculated until the end of the turn (or maybe the beginning of the next one), so your Geomancer didn't have the E2 he needed to cast Summon Earthpower, which is why he used a gem. You should have given him either an additional earth gem, or used a E2 Imperial Alchemist.I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I'm not in a position to test it right now. Regardless, I'm pretty much certain the gem was popped for fatigue reduction purposes, rather than to increase the geomancer's effective level. (Why the fatigue needed to be reduced from 0.5 to 0.25 is a matter best left to the AI.)
Also, gman8181 will be taking over C'tis for Boksi! Thank you again for doing this on such short notice. The game wouldn't be the same with an AI at the helm of C'tis, and I hope you don't find the sudden barrage of diplomatic wheeling and dealing from your numerous two neighbors overwhelming, or the many, many (many...) options available in the late-game.
Post by: gman8181 on April 09, 2013, 09:06:45 pm
Post by: Duuvian on April 09, 2013, 09:21:24 pm
Post by: Endymion on April 10, 2013, 12:15:02 am
I'm pretty sure that's not true, but I'm not in a position to test it right now. Regardless, I'm pretty much certain the gem was popped for fatigue reduction purposes, rather than to increase the geomancer's effective level. (Why the fatigue needed to be reduced from 0.5 to 0.25 is a matter best left to the AI.)
I think the AI's consideration about fatigue is very odd in communions. Mayhaps the caster was worried about the "massive" fatigue cost non-earth communion slaves were paying (before the division across many slaves, that is. What would that cost be anyways-- 60 or 80? Either way, there were slaves paying >50 before the cost got divided by number of slaves.) ?
Post by: MentalFather on April 10, 2013, 05:56:17 am
Post by: Karlito on April 10, 2013, 10:46:02 am
Post by: puntocom on April 10, 2013, 10:48:17 am
Because they only have two land provinces left?
Yes, now after the stales...
Post by: Karlito on April 10, 2013, 10:53:17 am
Post by: gman8181 on April 10, 2013, 06:32:08 pm
Post by: Boksi on April 10, 2013, 06:52:27 pm
Does anyone have access to blood magic (and preferably those blood stone things) who is willing to trade?At this point, it's probably easier for you to just wish for blood slaves if you really want to set up a blood economy. And you shouldn't need to, just wish for gems instead of spending all that effort getting a single type of gems. You have a horde of clambitches and a bunch of hammers, after all, and enough boosters for at least one wish caster. It's too late in the game to really diversify, you should probably just focus on the paths you have(which are pretty powerful on their own).
Post by: gman8181 on April 10, 2013, 07:13:08 pm
Thanks for the advice though. No big deal if I don't get it, just figured it would be a bonus.
Post by: Karlito on April 10, 2013, 07:32:19 pm
Anyway, blood magic is one of those things that is sort of useful even if you just dabble.
Huh, is this a common perception? I'd make the exact opposite claim: separate research, requires dedicated commanders (often mages) for gathering, drains your precious gold, etc. Maybe I've just played nations that solely rely on blood magic a few too many times.
Post by: gman8181 on April 10, 2013, 07:44:08 pm
Edit: Gold loses a lot of its usefulness as the game progresses anyway. Undead (especially tartarians), demons, golems and plenty of other fun summons don't require any upkeep. Get a good clam or blood economy going and you can easily surpass whatever forces would be possible with regular units.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on April 11, 2013, 03:32:52 am
Post by: Akhier the Dragon hearted on April 12, 2013, 02:40:26 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 18, 2013, 03:40:21 pm
Post by: MentalFather on April 19, 2013, 05:48:15 am
Also we aren't as active as forty turns ago (no conversations in the forum).
Are Pythium and Pangea still in peace with everyone?
East kingdoms are still involved in "the big war", with no clues about who will rise.
Someone said 60 turns ago he was going to do an AAR. Ignoring some players staled to new records, I think we had interesting battles and alliances this game. Is the idea of AAR still alive?
Post by: ThtblovesDF on April 19, 2013, 07:06:02 am
Post by: Karlito on April 19, 2013, 09:04:22 am
Only r'lyeh is sending the turns on time.
What are you talking about? There's still twelve hours left to send in the turn.
Post by: MentalFather on April 19, 2013, 11:01:13 am
Only r'lyeh is sending the turns on time.
What are you talking about? There's still twelve hours left to send in the turn.
But we have 3 days to send the turns, and we all wait until 3 last hours.
That is what I'm talking about.
Post by: gman8181 on April 19, 2013, 02:49:03 pm
Post by: Knave on April 19, 2013, 03:46:18 pm
And I don't think being at war with AI nations counts, so I'm still everyone's best friend, right? Right!?
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 20, 2013, 01:35:23 pm
Only r'lyeh is sending the turns on time. It seems we aren't enjoying too much our sloooow paced game. : PWell, I've been trying to send in my turns earlier. I just haven't had time recently; I ought to now though. Besides, you're one to talk, sending your turns in later than almost everyone else :P
Also we aren't as active as forty turns ago (no conversations in the forum).
Are Pythium and Pangea still in peace with everyone?
East kingdoms are still involved in "the big war", with no clues about who will rise.
Someone said 60 turns ago he was going to do an AAR. Ignoring some players staled to new records, I think we had interesting battles and alliances this game. Is the idea of AAR still alive?
There's just not much to talk about - the state of the eastern continent is still perpetual war, and Pan and Pythium are both basically at peace (war with AI isn't real war). If there were any major breakthroughs, we might have something to talk about, but I don't think anyone has managed to do anything big yet (sans Ermor's march through C'tis between Boksi leaving and gman picking it up - thanks again for that!). It's all just trying to annoy each other to death for now.
Looks like Pythium staled. Did you forget to send the email/your email ate it? Both have happened to me before.
Post by: MentalFather on April 20, 2013, 04:38:16 pm
Well, I've been trying to send in my turns earlier. I just haven't had time recently; I ought to now though. Besides, you're one to talk, sending your turns in later than almost everyone else :P
>.<
Don't misunderstand me, I wasn't pretending to blame anyone, I just noticed everybody is waiting for the last moment.
And I do it often, sometimes to think strategies until the last moment, other times because I'm stupid and remember the turn 5 minutes before the end of the turn.
Edit: Also, does anyone noticed that barbarians are attacking very often this game?
Every turn I have at least an attack.
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 20, 2013, 07:26:12 pm
As for barbarian attacks, well, don't take misfortune 3 then :P You've got a giant empire and terrible luck scales. The only thing keeping you from disintegrating entirely is Order 3. Misfortune doesn't just make more bad events happen, it also unlucks more. You're getting a lot of barbarian attacks because Misfortune 3 unlocks multiple independent attack events. Not only do you roll more unlucky events but more of those unlucky events will be indy attacks.
Post by: Karlito on April 20, 2013, 07:45:14 pm
Looks like Pythium staled. Did you forget to send the email/your email ate it? Both have happened to me before.I'm a bad person who forgot to send in the email. Or rather, I was distracted with other things and then "ding" new turn came in.
Eriu took Misfortune 3? Dang, that's pretty ballsy.
Post by: Knave on April 23, 2013, 07:50:06 am
Post by: MentalFather on April 25, 2013, 01:46:26 pm
Awesome way to use a prophet, Darkwind (not sarcasm, she was pretty annoying).
I hope someone finishes this game massing tartarian, or wish, or whatever (it's getting a bit boring).
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 25, 2013, 05:56:02 pm
Turn in.Better yet, with her dead, I can actually prophetize someone worth propheting! :D That'll be nice.
Awesome way to use a prophet, Darkwind (not sarcasm, she was pretty annoying).
I hope someone finishes this game massing tartarian, or wish, or whatever (it's getting a bit boring).
Your (thunder strike x1)(retreat) Tuatha are going to be a pain in the ass until I kill them, I'm sure.
Honestly, this game has been dragging on. That's what happens with gemgens, though. If this were CBM the game would probably already be decided.
e: for once, I'm actually the last person to send in their turn! I probably will be next turn as well, unfortunately.
Post by: gman8181 on April 25, 2013, 06:34:02 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 28, 2013, 04:04:39 pm
Just going to keep those barbarians there, MentalFather? I guess you've got enough sorceresses. I've noticed your research is shooting up recently.
What's up with the east, anyways? You guys are spending your turns turtling and doing boring things like attacking AIs. Live a little! Do something interesting like, say, attacking a player. Ermor or Eriu would be nice places to start :D
Post by: MentalFather on April 29, 2013, 06:31:13 am
Rip DO THE IMPOSSIBLE :( He did not do the impossible.
Just going to keep those barbarians there, MentalFather? I guess you've got enough sorceresses. I've noticed your research is shooting up recently.
What's up with the east, anyways? You guys are spending your turns turtling and doing boring things like attacking AIs. Live a little! Do something interesting like, say, attacking a player. Ermor or Eriu would be nice places to start :D
I said it days ago, but I must repeat it (since you didn't answer): are your golem's names referring to Tengen toppa gurren lagann? If they are you are the man. :)
Also your golem had a beautiful sword. ;)
And about the map I should say it's not really fair that I was at war with 4 nations this game (being a nation in the center of the map is hard) and Pithium or Pangaea are still at relative peace. Dammit! :(
Post by: Knave on April 29, 2013, 09:35:00 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on April 29, 2013, 10:31:51 am
I said it days ago, but I must repeat it (since you didn't answer): are your golem's names referring to Tengen toppa gurren lagann? If they are you are the man. :)Yeah, my golems are referencing TTGL. Sorry for not answering earlier. It's basically the only anime I have ever watched, but also apparently one of the best.
Also your golem had a beautiful sword. ;)
And that sword wasn't that great. It was clearly of no help against your Tuatha! Honestly, I probably should've just forged a Runesmasher (or better yet, a clam). It's definitely better than just a brand, though.
Post by: MentalFather on April 29, 2013, 11:31:31 am
I said it days ago, but I must repeat it (since you didn't answer): are your golem's names referring to Tengen toppa gurren lagann? If they are you are the man. :)Yeah, my golems are referencing TTGL. Sorry for not answering earlier. It's basically the only anime I have ever watched, but also apparently one of the best.
Also your golem had a beautiful sword. ;)
And that sword wasn't that great. It was clearly of no help against your Tuatha! Honestly, I probably should've just forged a Runesmasher (or better yet, a clam). It's definitely better than just a brand, though.
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAlztMvvNkk
Post by: Karlito on April 29, 2013, 03:49:27 pm
I think Pythium and I are just waiting each other out while we SUMMON ALL THE THINGS!
I am definitely summoning many things.
Post by: Knave on May 01, 2013, 10:44:05 am
Cheers!
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 01, 2013, 11:23:14 am
Any chance of a short (6 hr?) extension? Working late today means I probably won't have time to finish my turn up!Done! I was thinking about giving myself one, since I had halfway-finished the turn but apparently forgot to save my progress. I had even moved all my scouts! And holy crap I have a lot of scouts.
Cheers!
Post by: Karlito on May 04, 2013, 11:34:38 pm
EDIT: Ah, the challenges of getting Mages to stay on script.
Post by: gman8181 on May 05, 2013, 09:15:43 pm
Dominions Round 13 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=125655.0)
Dominions Round 14 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=125670.0)
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 07, 2013, 12:44:53 pm
In other news, it looks like we have a new entrant into the trenches! I was wondering why C'tis and I seemed to be facing a little less opposition. And I think I've finally managed to get the hang of communions, as well (ignoring a few mistakes).
Post by: MentalFather on May 07, 2013, 05:19:15 pm
Also turns are getting a bit boring, don't you think so?
A few hours until the new turn: 70th.
If we assume 2 days per turn (most of them were 3 days long) we have been playing for 140 days --> More than 1/3 year!
Actually, Scriptwolf started the round 1st November. Months and months and months. :)
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 08, 2013, 08:06:47 pm
Pythium and R'lyeh also staled this turn - Thtb, Karlito, you guys alright? Just another accident?
Stales happen, it's okay.This game has gone on pretty long, but I think the longest-running is still Mistletoe (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Mistletoe), which is on turn three hundred and twenty-six. Terrifying thought. But yes, I am glad to see that this game appears to be finally drawing to a close.
Also turns are getting a bit boring, don't you think so?
A few hours until the new turn: 70th.
If we assume 2 days per turn (most of them were 3 days long) we have been playing for 140 days --> More than 1/3 year!
Actually, Scriptwolf started the round 1st November. Months and months and months. :)
Post by: Karlito on May 08, 2013, 08:11:39 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 10, 2013, 03:40:48 pm
Post by: Karlito on May 10, 2013, 03:42:29 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 12, 2013, 03:26:45 pm
Honestly, I don't think there are any good options here. The good option was "get a sub", and it looks like that's not possible.
e: kind of a late edit, since Karlito (e2: and gman!) already posted, but I suppose I haven't tried Desura yet. given the amount of new blood there, there's a chance someone might want to try subbing.
Post by: Karlito on May 12, 2013, 03:29:13 pm
Post by: gman8181 on May 12, 2013, 03:30:42 pm
Post by: Stworca on May 12, 2013, 05:30:26 pm
Perhaps it's the staled turns + AI moves that ruined it to what it is now. Perhaps the previous pretender.
While it can be salvaged by some of the vets, it'd be no easy task.
(as in: i was interested in joining, until i viewed it)
Post by: Karlito on May 13, 2013, 08:52:21 am
Post by: Stworca on May 13, 2013, 08:55:36 am
Post by: Karlito on May 13, 2013, 08:57:33 am
Post by: Stworca on May 13, 2013, 09:02:22 am
Despair not, for that player would get stomped.
Post by: Karlito on May 13, 2013, 09:49:54 pm
Honestly, I guess I should just send Cardinal Biggles to wipe them off the map, since in all likelyhood his details have already been scouted by Ermor.
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 16, 2013, 09:31:18 am
In other news, it looks like Round 11 is already just about over. Meanwhile, this game shows no signs of stopping, much to the chagrin of all involved, I fear.
Post by: Karlito on May 20, 2013, 10:31:47 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 25, 2013, 08:37:31 am
Post by: MentalFather on May 25, 2013, 06:48:34 pm
It's Final exam time, and I'm busy with that.
Since I have already lost (Tien'chi communions are too powerful for me :S) I wouldn't mind about becoming AI or just surrender.
It was a funny game anyways. :)
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 25, 2013, 07:33:36 pm
Hi, I'm sorry for that and for the delay answering.No problem! My apologies if I seemed a bit short-tempered, but I've seen games ruined by major players dropping out without even an "I have IRL stuff going on got to leave sorry bye!" For what it's worth, good luck on your exams. Mine are already over, so I've got that burden off my shoulders :D
It's Final exam time, and I'm busy with that.
Since I have already lost (Tien'chi communions are too powerful for me :S) I wouldn't mind about becoming AI or just surrender.
It was a funny game anyways. :)
As to my communions, from my perspective, every time one of my armies has fought any significant force of yours, I've collapsed utterly. (Admittedly, the last one might have gone better for me had I not shot myself in the foot with Rain of Stones). I've built probably over a dozen thugs over the course of the game (impressive when each thug costs 50-60 gems to outfit, I would think), of which three survive. Things have been going more smoothly for me now that I have big endgame spells, but I still can't deal with an army of cheap thugs, or so the trend has been anyways, and can only mitigate Thunderstrike spam.
If you want to sub out, would you mind continuing to play until I find one? I can extend the turns if you need more time, for studying or whatever else*; I'd just prefer not to see you stale into oblivion if a sub takes a few days to show up.
It has been fun - you've certainly been a worthy opponent!
*I'll take this last opportunity to say that if you guys need some extra time for a turn, just ask. I won't bite, I swear.
Post by: Karlito on May 25, 2013, 11:59:07 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on May 28, 2013, 06:13:52 pm
Post by: puntocom on May 29, 2013, 12:13:03 pm
sorry for the stales, I had some RL issues. I will start again with the turns.
Post by: Darkwind3 on June 08, 2013, 11:22:09 am
R'lyeh has been doing surprisingly well for itself, for being AI and at war with everyone surrounding it. Pangaea too.
Post by: MentalFather on June 11, 2013, 03:34:03 am
There is something you will enjoy, Darkwind :P
Tooth and nail!
Post by: Darkwind3 on June 21, 2013, 12:16:13 pm
Looks like C'tis decided to throw out Arcane Nexus, and Pythium is playing with Wishes. That's ballsy of both of you. We'll see how long that lasts :D
Post by: gman8181 on June 21, 2013, 12:41:44 pm
Post by: Karlito on June 21, 2013, 03:46:05 pm
Post by: gman8181 on June 24, 2013, 10:28:05 am
Post by: Darkwind3 on June 24, 2013, 06:41:26 pm
Post by: gman8181 on June 25, 2013, 11:38:47 am
I'm back.
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 03, 2013, 01:49:42 pm
Karlito has also staled twice now. Anything up?
Post by: Karlito on July 03, 2013, 08:59:51 pm
Post by: gman8181 on July 03, 2013, 09:07:18 pm
That said, I'm only playing because you guys needed a sub. I don't really have my heart in this game as I haven't been playing from the start.
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 03, 2013, 09:34:06 pm
Twice really? I guess I haven't been thinking about the game too much. At this point I'd honestly be fine calling the game in favor of T'ien Chi, unless the rest of you want to band together to try and take him out (I have low confidence in this plan's success).Me? Really? I've been thinking about asking everyone if they want to call in favor of you or gman! I would probably be in a decent position if I hadn't feebleminded my S6 Oracle forty turns ago (I actually don't know how long it's been, but quite a while). As it is, I have no access to Wish. My main advantage is versatile communions and so much fucking money (I seriously have a bank of 7000 gold right now). Money only buys chaff at this point, and you have versatile communions as well as a pretender who can actually wish, while gman has high death, which means GoRed Tartarians - and apparently also Wish, since he's got a Seraph camped on Ermor's capital. I've been spamming clams, but I assume you guys have been doing that too - gman is definitely in a position for that, and I imagine you've connived your way into W3N1 as well, Karlito.
Eriu and I have been trading blows for quite a while now and I despair of ever defeating him (I imagine Mentalfather feels likewise). If it weren't for that, maybe I'd be in that sort of winning position. Like you guys have said, my heart's not really in the game any more either.
Honestly, I was wrong to let Pan go AI rather than searching harder for subs. They've been doing quite well for themselves so far, though maybe just because no one's mustered up the will to really go on the offensive yet due to perpetual war.
Post by: Neonivek on July 03, 2013, 09:44:00 pm
Post by: Karlito on July 04, 2013, 01:26:08 am
I imagine you've connived your way into W3N1 as well, Karlito.
Pbbbbt! Nope. I've spent too much time playing CBM to actually consider that when it mattered. I suppose I could wish myself enough nature gems to empower the right Arch Theurg now, but it really wasn't a good option before. Honestly, my only weapon right now is a dude who can cast Master Enslave with like +8 penetration. All my supercombatants have bit the dust, and I haven't bothered to replace them (I wasted like 230 gems on a porrly geared Seraph. Man, did that sting.)
I guess this game has been boring me for a while. You know, the only player I've actually fought was Caelum, and that lasted like 5 turns. It's been independents and AIs the whole rest of the time.
Post by: MentalFather on July 04, 2013, 09:13:37 am
I was fighting Ulm because he attacked me with no reason, and then Ermor asked me for help (he was being attacked by Caelum, Abysia, C'tis and Tien'chi). I accepted, since he was a powerful ally.
When Caelum got defeated by Ermor and retreated, she said Tien'chi was the boss of the coalition (in other words, of course). So the big menace was Tien'chi leading everybody to the big nation: Ermor.
So the next turn I sent 15 Sidhe lords to Tien'chi, to 5 different provinces. Every attack was a success (I think he wasn't expecting that).
Nex turn I continued attacking with my raiders, and a few turns later Puntocom said me to attack 2 provinces, so the retreaters of a big war against Tien'chi couldn't survive.
And that was a really great strategy: We take down Tien'chi's army a lot.
But then I had a big big problem I didn't expect. I was attacking Ulm at the same moment with my main army (10 tuathas and 25 sacred units with glamour [I don't remenber their name, but they are Sidhe guys]), but even if Ulm became AI, I couldn't siege Ulm's 800 defense castles with my 30 people army. So I sieged Ulm's 3 castles, this way the IA couldn't annoy me conquering provinces.
And then, with all my problems with Ulm and my attack with Tien'chi, Ryleh and Marignon started attacking me (at that moment I thought they were allied with Tien'chi, but now I'm still not sure about that, maybe they just attacked me). So I was fighting with 4 guys. A Sidhe lord full equiped stomped Marignon, so he wasn't a problem.
But everybody was Mental attacking my sidhes and thuatas, and I started to recruit Sorceresses from an independent province Tien'chi gave me. I build Astral caps, so I had A3 mages, and send them to protect every province I had sidhes.
A lot of mages were feebleminded (I think some of them were ryleh's) and I don't remember the message, but at that moment I knew Tien'chi's god was feebleminded by me. I don't remember if the message was "An enemy mage called [ Name of god] has been diseaded for life" or something like that. But I was sure Tien'chi was without a useful god.
But then Tien'chi started with the Gargoyles... At that moment I couldn't deal with supercombatants with 80 hp with my 15 hp sidhe lords.
He sieged me with 2 gargoyles and a Golem, I think. I was so stupid to think a Frost ring in my pretender was going to protect my pretender from every damage of a Frost brand (it could sound logic, but it doesn't protect) and I lost my pretender and my Mother oak enchantment.
I researched and started to build Axes of Hate to deal with the supercombatants.
I knocked down some golems, some others knocked me.
At this moment I'm fighting Tien'chi with tooth and nail, countering his Communions and slaying every chinese that goes into my lands. But it's not working so good.
I think Tien'chi can't conquer me at the moment, and if C'tis attacks him, Tien'chi can fall down.
Ermor stopped talking to me since a lot of time ago, and I'm almost sure he is sending the turns empty. He didn't even defend himself from Tien'chi's forces since 20 turns ago.
Now Tien'chi controls almost every Ermor province, but he is still beatable.
I can't win, since Eriu isn't a late game Nation, so I don't mind if win finish it.
Also the game is a bit funny, not so boring. I don't have my heart in it (10-15 turns ago I would have said "YES!" to finish the game, but now I'm fine), but this game still has something to offer me. I learned a lot of things this game: countering astral attacks, countering communions, building thugs, and a lot of things. Also I learned that my perfectly scripted mages to cast Storm, Rain, and Storm power (this way Sidhe lords with 2 Air can cast Thunder strike too) don't cast Storm, don't cast Rain, and cast whatever they want. Stupid AI of mages... : (
What are your thoughts about this game? Onlie Karlito, Darkwind and me are veterans of the game... I would want to have here Puntocom, C'tis guy, Scriptwolf and Ryleh first guy, to say what did the game teached to them, but they staled without end. :(
Anyways, good game guys. :)
Post by: gman8181 on July 04, 2013, 01:21:27 pm
Honestly it wasn't too much of a learning experience for me. I'm used to equipping generalized supercombatants from my single player games and I also use communions a lot in single player. The things I really don't have much experience with are creating specially equipped thugs and SC's for special situations. Actually thugs in general, I don't have too much experience with. I normally skip that phase and go straight for the big stuff.
Since starting this game, I think Ermor has been my only opponent and they've been staling a lot so I'm don't feel too proud about beating them back.
Post by: MentalFather on July 04, 2013, 02:31:09 pm
Hey I don't think I staled once since I started playing Ctis!
Honestly it wasn't too much of a learning experience for me. I'm used to equipping generalized supercombatants from my single player games and I also use communions a lot in single player. The things I really don't have much experience with are creating specially equipped thugs and SC's for special situations. Actually thugs in general, I don't have too much experience with. I normally skip that phase and go straight for the big stuff.
Since starting this game, I think Ermor has been my only opponent and they've been staling a lot so I'm don't feel too proud about beating them back.
When I said "the C'tis guy" I was refering to the C'tis player we had before you :P
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 05, 2013, 06:54:44 pm
Given the number and size of the AIs (including Ermor provisionally in the AI category), I feel like any victory would be kind of tainted by both the significant resources of the AIs who could have posed a great threat, and the sheer drudgery of fighting through them.
---
Mentalfather's done a retrospective, so I may as well. I've definitely learned a lot from this game. My mistake against Ermor was resting on my laurels - Fire Arrows/Wind Guide archers are badass but they will only get you so far, and Ermor crushed me by bringing mages to a battle where I wasn't expecting that sort of opposition. Puntocom basically brought me kicking and screaming to the midgame.
I also learned a lot about thugs, too. Golems are pretty damn great thanks to Teleport/Returning, though it eats up your astral income quite fast. Because this was a Vanilla game, though, I got away with it. In CBM I expect I'd rely significantly more on Gargoyles. Otherwise, MA T'ien Ch'i doesn't have much access to thugs (and no access to SCs in Vanilla, though CBM would change this I think thanks to Ettins/Wendigos). Honestly, solo raiders are all about force estimation - you go where your enemy won't be. Two or three thugs properly geared ought to take out basically any amount of PD, but with only one you have to be careful. (Also, don't bring along units. Losing because of imps or whatever dying in droves and auto-routing has been the bane of several of my thugs.)
I can actually get literally every path in the game in my communions right now, but I don't feel nearly as versatile as that sounds. Mostly, it's because that gives me nothing to counter Thunderstrike spam past killing the Tuatha first. I can mitigate it with resistance and fatigue spells, but with 30 casters that still chews up any army that's not thousands of units large. In a nutshell, that's why I've been at war with Mentalfather for so long - I can't actually stop him from destroying any army I bring to bear against his main taskforce.
I don't think either of us gained anything from this war that was worth its cost. Honestly, we'd probably be better off declaring peace, but I'm not even sure whether that's possible by this point.
In conclusion: what T'ien Ch'i gains in MA probably isn't worth what you lose from EA.
And then, with all my problems with Ulm and my attack with Tien'chi, Ryleh and Marignon started attacking me (at that moment I thought they were allied with Tien'chi, but now I'm still not sure about that, maybe they just attacked me). So I was fighting with 4 guys. A Sidhe lord full equiped stomped Marignon, so he wasn't a problem.I can't say I organized the initial war against Ermor (Boksi was the one who approached me about it), but I definitely encouraged Marignon and R'lyeh to attack you. That was probably an entire in-game year before they actually bothered, though. It worked out rather poorly for them, it would seem.
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 07, 2013, 09:48:24 am
Post by: gman8181 on July 07, 2013, 09:52:15 am
Post by: MentalFather on July 08, 2013, 03:31:17 pm
But AI are invading me, and I can't hold my lands anymore. Pangaea and Ryleh are attacking me everywhere with a few troops, and sometimes the attacks are successful.
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 09, 2013, 06:18:04 pm
Post by: Gallarcher on July 09, 2013, 06:47:36 pm
Post by: gman8181 on July 09, 2013, 10:16:13 pm
Post by: MentalFather on July 13, 2013, 03:03:20 pm
I REALLY hate Gifts from Heaven... and you are so lucky with that spell too. :(
Anyways this game is a bit boring. You have my vote for finishing the game.
Post by: ThtblovesDF on July 14, 2013, 08:31:42 am
long good recap
You did feeblemind ryl'ehs god and a lot of the mages, I was trying to avoid the areas where I could spy a sorcees shown by astral-spying, but the side are of course glamours and hiding very well...
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 15, 2013, 07:53:18 pm
Apparently I charmed a Sidhe lord at some point in that clusterfuck of a battle? I don't even know. I'm glad I finally managed to inflict some losses on you, even if a lot of it was just an F5 set to Flame Storm x5. Of course, given Ermor suddenly grew a spine (thanks for subbing in Gallarcher! :D ) I don't think you're out of the war quite yet, Mentalfather, though that may not even be a good thing anymore.
Post by: Gallarcher on July 16, 2013, 02:21:37 pm
Post by: Darkwind3 on July 16, 2013, 08:46:17 pm
Thanks to Thtblovesdf, gman8181, and Gallarcher for all subbing in! All of you came into difficult positions and I'm glad you helped out. And thanks to Mentalfather for fighting me to a standstill for sixty turns ;) We must have been at war for about 90% of the game's life, and you certainly never made it easy for me.