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Dwarf Fortress => DF General Discussion => Topic started by: flap on August 19, 2006, 04:27:00 am

Title: Mule, horse
Post by: flap on August 19, 2006, 04:27:00 am
Do theses animals work ? I thought that you could train them to do some hauling job. But not in the kennels apparently.
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: GauHelldragon on August 19, 2006, 04:30:00 am
They're good eatin'   :)
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: flap on August 19, 2006, 04:33:00 am
Okay, I knew that.  :roll:

[ August 19, 2006: Message edited by: flap ]

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Aquillion on August 19, 2006, 04:56:00 am
It makes a certain amount of sense.  How useful is a horse underground?
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Griz on August 19, 2006, 08:01:00 am
if the tunnels are big enough for horses and cows and other large livestock to walk around, they should be big enough for said livestock to walk around wearing saddlebags or pulling a small cart.
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Gronut on August 19, 2006, 09:21:00 am
Canonically speaking, Dwarves and horses are not supposed to mix/get along, I believe, seeing as horses are really big and like their open spaces, while the Dwarves are the opposite.

The size could have practical problems, although "smaller" humans handle horses okay (it's more of a force of character and knowing what you're doing thing). But... let's imagine you're four-foot-nothing (or however tall dwarves are actually supposed to be...) - how many of you would it take to handle an unruly animal that stands 5'4" at the shoulder and weighs 1500lbs? What if a  2000lbs Bengalian got spooked in a tunnel and went nuts around your miners? There'd be nowhere to hide and the bloodbath would make even the craziest Dwarves blush.  ;)

However, along this line of thinking, maybe donkeys and mules could be doable, though potentially morally offensive to fellow Dwarves. You could keep a few horses and a few donkeys and use them to breed mules and hinneys to power your empire, and all that. You could strap them to mills and other machinery. It'd be awesome.

But... and this is the real practical problem... you need to feed your underground stable something... something like straw... I don't think a horse would get very far eating mushrooms, even if you could provide the needed volume. This would mean you'd need to grow cereals/grassy things on the surface.

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: GauHelldragon on August 19, 2006, 09:43:00 am
Well, whenever you see traders, they come in with mules or horses hauling their stuff, so I'm sure they are going to have some kind of use. Check out the development page, there might be something there in planned features.
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: bbb on August 19, 2006, 03:10:00 pm
well.. they brought your wagons to the site.. which is why the more wagons there are, the more draft animals.
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Solara on August 19, 2006, 04:25:00 pm
For a race that doesn't like horses, these immigrants sure bring a lot of them as pets...
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Toady One on August 19, 2006, 08:05:00 pm
You know, I was gonna add different livestock for dwarves, and I might have even typed the words "dwarf horse" at some point and then probably decided I'd let it sit for a while.
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Solara on August 19, 2006, 08:42:00 pm
Dwarves should use Shetland ponies. Except, you know, there are no Shetland Islands in Generic Fantasy Universe #241.

Still, even regular ponies are smaller than horses. And what about donkeys?

Or better yet, some kind of mountain goat?

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: gimlet on August 19, 2006, 09:01:00 pm
Just me 'n the pygmy pony
Over by the Dental Floss Bush

Zappa aside, there *are* some very small breeds like the aforementioned Shetland, but especially  the Falabella.

According to Wikipedia, average breed heights for a fully-grown Falabella today are between 28 and 31 inches...

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Garthor on August 19, 2006, 09:28:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Griz:
<STRONG>if the tunnels are big enough for horses and cows and other livestock to walk around, they should be big enough for said livestock to walk around wearing saddlebags or pulling a small cart.</STRONG>

How about elephants?

[ August 19, 2006: Message edited by: Garthor ]

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: Gronut on August 19, 2006, 11:39:00 pm
quote:
Or better yet, some kind of mountain goat?

They could tame and then ride into combat on rams. I mean, those things are called rams for a reason, and some species get large enough that a dwarf riding one may not be totally silly, sizewise. You could maybe pen up some wild rams and release them into your fortress during times of crisis to clense it of intruders and non-believers, or whoever didn't make it to shelter in time. I hear they're good eating, too, so you could cook the victorious defenders for supper later.

Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: JT on August 20, 2006, 09:33:00 am
I can already hear the humans in the valley laughing, all the way from my fortress...
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: John Gaden on August 20, 2006, 09:43:00 am
Mules and horses. Steal em from merchants, breed em, eat em. Only use ive found for them so far.   :cool:
Title: Re: Mule, horse
Post by: bbb on August 20, 2006, 12:59:00 pm
i've got mine locked up in cages... question is...

will they die? (old age / hunger / etc)...

i guess i should just gut them..