Attempt to breathe fire.+1
Try to remember if we have magic. Specifically, flying magic.
If not, proceed to end of tunnel.
Attempt to breathe fire.+1
and try to roar loudly.
Well, you know what they say - amnesia is one of the easiest ways to force self-reinvention!
From this day on, you shall be a paragon of all that is good and right. You shall protect the innocent and fight evil wherever you may find it.
Enter the middle room, and look for something that could help us remember the power of ice.+1
- all the 1s. I know doing goodery and rescuing maidens and polishing china and stuff is your thing, GWG, but this just goes against established character.Well, you know what they say - amnesia is one of the easiest ways to force self-reinvention!
From this day on, you shall be a paragon of all that is good and right. You shall protect the innocent and fight evil wherever you may find it.
Disregarding benefits for a second and putting ourselves in the viewpoint of our character, who is a dragon soul trapped in its body for 5000 years as a result of being murderated, likely revenge hungry, and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous, even less one like we were, what IC justification have we for turning good?
At all?
*growls at Xantalos*Oh what? Are you resorting to physical threats in wake of my IMPECCABLE CHARACTER LOGIC?
...and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
No, at this:I was talking about fantasy dragons in general, not D&D or Planescape or whatever planar type of dragon you guys are....and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
How can you talk about fantasy "in general" when there are so many counterexamples in fiction?No, at this:I was talking about fantasy dragons in general, not D&D or Planescape or whatever planar type of dragon you guys are....and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
Besides, I never said evil.
'In general' as in the most common archetype assigned to the dragon in a work of fiction, that of a villain.How can you talk about fantasy "in general" when there are so many counterexamples in fiction?No, at this:I was talking about fantasy dragons in general, not D&D or Planescape or whatever planar type of dragon you guys are....and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
Besides, I never said evil.
In the same way that the most common archtype for humans is a mook or minion.'In general' as in the most common archetype assigned to the dragon in a work of fiction, that of a villain.How can you talk about fantasy "in general" when there are so many counterexamples in fiction?No, at this:I was talking about fantasy dragons in general, not D&D or Planescape or whatever planar type of dragon you guys are....and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
Besides, I never said evil.
Yes.In the same way that the most common archtype for humans is a mook or minion.'In general' as in the most common archetype assigned to the dragon in a work of fiction, that of a villain.How can you talk about fantasy "in general" when there are so many counterexamples in fiction?No, at this:I was talking about fantasy dragons in general, not D&D or Planescape or whatever planar type of dragon you guys are....and above all a DRAGON, who are not known for being kind and generous...I and other metallic dragons are a bit insulted at the insinuation that all dragons are evil. We're dialing up Falkor and others, too.
Besides, I never said evil.
Do you understand that no one would seriously claim that the "standard" role of humanity in fiction is that of a mook or minion?Huh? No, but the standard role for a mook or minion in (human) fiction is a human.
...That doesn't make sense. Mook/Minion is a role, Human is not.Do you understand that no one would seriously claim that the "standard" role of humanity in fiction is that of a mook or minion?Huh? No, but the standard role for a mook or minion in (human) fiction is a human.
I don't know. Perhaps you should ask yourself....That doesn't make sense. Mook/Minion is a role, Human is not.Do you understand that no one would seriously claim that the "standard" role of humanity in fiction is that of a mook or minion?Huh? No, but the standard role for a mook or minion in (human) fiction is a human.
Even if that did make sense, it wouldn't be true due to the large number of nonhuman mooks.
Even if it did make sense and was true, it wouldn't support your argument due to having no connection to it.
Why do I even argue with people like you?
good
evil
you are a female dragon, you still can't find your name in your memory.
Destroy the inscription on the wall.
+1 This is Bay12 anyway, so it won't be THAT hard to abide by blue & orange morality.Quotegood
evil
My vote is for Blue and Orange Morality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality). Maybe we don't have any reason to be good but neither do we have any reason to be evil. What we do have, is reason to have a worldview that is completely foreign to mortals. We're thousands of years old, we're an animated skeleton, we no longer feel hot or cold and it's likely we no longer feel pain and we're probably immortal and don't have to eat or sleep. Running around breaking things and killing people is very short sighted. But I don't see much point in saving damsels and helping old ladies cross the road when they're just going to be dead in a couple eyeblinks relative to us.
Let's take a third option.
Ah, thank you LB.Quotegood
evil
My vote is for Blue and Orange Morality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlueAndOrangeMorality). Maybe we don't have any reason to be good but neither do we have any reason to be evil. What we do have, is reason to have a worldview that is completely foreign to mortals. We're thousands of years old, we're an animated skeleton, we no longer feel hot or cold and it's likely we no longer feel pain and we're probably immortal and don't have to eat or sleep. Running around breaking things and killing people is very short sighted. But I don't see much point in saving damsels and helping old ladies cross the road when they're just going to be dead in a couple eyeblinks relative to us.
Let's take a third option.Quoteyou are a female dragon, you still can't find your name in your memory.
Helchistrasza, Harbinger of cold.
Meaningful name (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MeaningfulName)
Name to run away from really fast (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast)
Bilingual bonus (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BilingualBonus)QuoteDestroy the inscription on the wall.
No! Destroy nothing. Whomever made it made it as a testament to our power and glory. We were so important to them that their future generations remember us that they made us a nice plaque and put our skeleton on display.
Whether they love us or hate us, clearly they view us as a creature of great importance. This is something we want to encourage. If we go around destroying monuments dedicated to us, that discourages them from building more monuments.
Break nothing. Test to see if we can speak. Explore the left and right runnels.
It all depends on what exactly you mean by "Good".
Well, you know what they say - amnesia is one of the easiest ways to force self-reinvention!
From this day on, you shall be a paragon of all that is good and right. You shall protect the innocent and fight evil wherever you may find it.
Open a coffin to investigate.
Take the bones from the coffin and attach it to our body. Freeze them in place. Attempt to make ourselves look larger and more intimidating.+1
Attempt to move as quietly as possible. Assess our chances of becoming a Ninja Skeletal Dragon.
// Son, you're as big as a house (well, that's a bit of an exaggeration), but with that size you won't get far in terms of stealth or finesse.It's perfect, no one will ever suspect us!
"For future generations, Harbinger of Cold"?"For futu tions, , Harbi f Cold"
// Son, you're as big as a house (well, that's a bit of an exaggeration), but with that size you won't get far in terms of stealth or finesse.I was thinking less along the lines of "sneak around" and more towards "fly above enemies at night and bodyslam them before they notice" :D
// Son, you're as big as a house (well, that's a bit of an exaggeration), but with that size you won't get far in terms of stealth or finesse.It's perfect, no one will ever suspect us!"For future generations, Harbinger of Cold"?"For futu tions, , Harbi f Cold"
Awww, they named us!
Well, we can't go turning down such a generous gift!
// Son, you're as big as a house (well, that's a bit of an exaggeration), but with that size you won't get far in terms of stealth or finesse.I was thinking less along the lines of "sneak around" and more towards "fly above enemies at night and bodyslam them before they notice" :D
((Hmm... we could always try Icewalling our wings though it might not work let alone last long enough for stealthy flight...))
Detach and reattach our new second tail, try and discern the process that allows us to gain control over attached bone. Attempt to deduce a method for increasing our control range to be able to move bones that are very close to us yet aren't actually attached to us. If it succeeds, repeat the tests at the same distance except with solid objects between us and the bones.
That was a joke. Look to the left to see why.They gave us a title, but we still have our proper name. (Helchistrasza, as suggested by LordBucket)"For future generations, Harbinger of Cold"?"For futu tions, , Harbi f Cold"
Awww, they named us!
Well, we can't go turning down such a generous gift!
((Hmm... we could always try Icewalling our wings though it might not work let alone last long enough for stealthy flight...))+1
Detach and reattach our new second tail, try and discern the process that allows us to gain control over attached bone. Attempt to deduce a method for increasing our control range to be able to move bones that are very close to us yet aren't actually attached to us. If it succeeds, repeat the tests at the same distance except with solid objects between us and the bones.
So basically a superficial form of necromancy?Not really, just bone manipulation. Kind of like the difference between being Magneto and being Skynet.
((Yeah, just to save us the hassle of physically attaching bones to ourselves. Also in case we want to start a marionette show that features skeletal puppets suspended by chords of spinal bone. If it works we can then step up the experimentation and usage. Or you know, if we find the right apparatus, we could create a skeletal hand-puppet that uses a system of air pumping mechanisms, thin leather and chords to simulate speech so that we'd be able to communicate via reverse ventriloquy. After all, we might have to narrate our skeletal puppet shows.))((Hmm... we could always try Icewalling our wings though it might not work let alone last long enough for stealthy flight...))
Detach and reattach our new second tail, try and discern the process that allows us to gain control over attached bone. Attempt to deduce a method for increasing our control range to be able to move bones that are very close to us yet aren't actually attached to us. If it succeeds, repeat the tests at the same distance except with solid objects between us and the bones.
So basically a superficial form of necromancy?
// Are you done with your little discussion about morality and roles of humans and dragons in fiction?Actually, the humans were only brought in to disprove the validity of Xantalos's reasoning.
There's another word in the middle."For future generations, Harbinger of Cold"?"For futu tions, , Harbi f Cold"
Awww, they named us!
Well, we can't go turning down such a generous gift!
You intend to use necromancy and complicated mechanisms driven by bones brought back to life to put on puppet shows? That's insane!((Yeah, just to save us the hassle of physically attaching bones to ourselves. Also in case we want to start a marionette show that features skeletal puppets suspended by chords of spinal bone. If it works we can then step up the experimentation and usage. Or you know, if we find the right apparatus, we could create a skeletal hand-puppet that uses a system of air pumping mechanisms, thin leather and chords to simulate speech so that we'd be able to communicate via reverse ventriloquy. After all, we might have to narrate our skeletal puppet shows.))((Hmm... we could always try Icewalling our wings though it might not work let alone last long enough for stealthy flight...))
Detach and reattach our new second tail, try and discern the process that allows us to gain control over attached bone. Attempt to deduce a method for increasing our control range to be able to move bones that are very close to us yet aren't actually attached to us. If it succeeds, repeat the tests at the same distance except with solid objects between us and the bones.
So basically a superficial form of necromancy?
Make ice. Create ice golems to protect out treasure hoard. Then dig out the rubble sufficiently for us to make our exit.
+1Make ice. Create ice golems to protect out treasure hoard. Then dig out the rubble sufficiently for us to make our exit.
+1+1Make ice. Create ice golems to protect out treasure hoard. Then dig out the rubble sufficiently for us to make our exit.
First we should find a water source as the only spell we have that makes ice (Tavez) seems dangerous to use.Aixio and Murita can make ice too from what i see, can be wrong though.
Aixio and Murita can make ice too from what i see, can be wrong though.
Ah it appears I've been willfully misreading.-1, that's a waste of good treasure. Rubble works just as well without attracting as much attention.
In that case take bones, mix with some of the treasury, Aixio the mixture and create bone/ice golems which are also a walking hoard.
Make two separate types of ice golems: Ice Skeletons, a thin layer of ice over bones for use as minions, and Ice Chests, squatter and mostly ice, for use as treasure-carriers.
the ventriloquism required to narrate it.Um.
How about instead of those ideas, we just dedicate all our time to restoring our flesh?Sounds more viable.
((We'll have to construct a mechanism that simulates the required organs and build it into an ice golem that we control. That way we can use it for ventriloquism of puppets, as well as communicate with people through it via reverse-ventriloquism.))Why not just build it into the puppets and let them talk for themselves? Or build it into us and talk normally?
In that case take bones, mix with some of the treasury, Aixio the
mixture and create bone/ice golems which are also a walking hoard.
You're assuming that the intent there is to take the treasure out and about instead of just having it guard itself.In that case take bones, mix with some of the treasury, Aixio the
mixture and create bone/ice golems which are also a walking hoard.
No, -1 to this
1) We don't want to transport our hoard out into the sunlight and have the ice melt.
2) Great big walking piles of gold will attract attention.
3) Sooner or later we're going to want to fly. Preferably sooner. We can abandon an ice skeleton army. Taking our hoard with us will make it difficult for us to retreat if things go badly. Every single skeleton lost to combat would mean treasure lost.
You're assuming that the intent there is to take the treasure out and about instead of just having it guard itself.
Ice golems main weakness is fire. People tend not to throw fireballs at valuables.You're assuming that the intent there is to take the treasure out and about instead of just having it guard itself.
Yes, I was assuming that was the point of having a "walking" hoard. If it isn't, then putting gold in the golems makes even less sense. Gold is 20 times heavier than ice. It will slow the golems down. It also means that anyone who comes in immediately sees that there's treasure. If we keep the gold in the back, behind the golem army, they have to get through them first before they even know whether there's anything worth fighting for.
I'm pretty sure we're leaving.
And, Bucket, do you have any better ideas for transporting treasure than walking ice chests?
Piles of gold and jewelry leave a bright shine thorough the entire room. You could
easily buy out an entire city with that amount of wealth accumulated.
1. I said "walking chests," not "Store it in our main combatants, what could go wrong?" That second idea is pretty good.
2. I got the feeling most of us wanted to head out and never return
You didn't answer my actual question.
We could always create a humanoid golem and put it in thick insulative robes and pretend to be a traveling mage who amuses themselves by animating dragon skeletons.Been discussed. Many issues.
I'd say use Murita & Vitaglacia to give ourselves ice-flesh. Complete with our best attempt at an icy voice-box.Tempting...
+1 to scouting around, (if you look closely, I was just playing devil's advocate with the chest-golems)Wait, do you mean the soldiers with treasure in them or the golems whose only purpose was carting treasure?
As for this place;I was with you until somewhere around the apocalypse.
It's weird. We've got a hall of coffins, a treasure room, and a 5000-year-old skeleton of a mighty dragon (complete with plaque!).
If anything, this makes me think we're in the 'pyramid of forgotten heroes' or somesuch.
Assuming they knew we would return at 5000 years, (which would be a strangely round number if it wasn't planned), I would say make the golems anyway- just in case there are any wards put in place to reanimate them to 'Slay it again!'. There are an awful lot of them after all, and they were entombed with their gear. Sure, any wards that we wouldn't have triggered by stumbling around here are probably destroyed along with the entryway, but hey.
As for why it's abandoned, I'd say it must have been built in the boonies. If it was in a city, it would either be known & preserved, or destroyed in some war. Or it miraculously survived the apocalypse, (& judging by the state of maintenance, I'd say we're a few years/decades late).
Let's go count the skyscrapers and meet the hyper-intelligent energy-beings which inhabit them!
Magic! Some kind of ice-skeleton hybrid.
I was thinking of the humanoid skeletons, but an ice "body" could help, too.
Experiment with that!
You use Aixio to cover one of your tails in solid ice, which when "enchanted" with Vitaglacia created a contraption that you easily managed to slice one of the pillars with in half. And it feels pretty comfortable, yet painless.So we're stuck in and underground lair, at least some of which has collapsed, and we decided to destroy one of the ceiling supports.
If you meant for scouting around, I meant with ourselves.Quote+1 to scouting around, (if you look closely, I was just playing devil's advocate with the chest-golems)Wait, do you mean the soldiers with treasure in them or the golems whose only purpose was carting treasure?
I was with you until somewhere around the apocalypse.This is all assuming our little temple wasn't built out in the middle of nowhere, (which I think is most likely). If the civ (and city we're housed in) collapsed, we wouldn't have had that pile of gold in here- there would have been looters galore with the slow crumble. Plus the entrance is damaged, so that doesn't rule out a !!FUN!! event.
More likely, the civilization of the surrounding area collapsed.
Make a tiny ball of ice. Layer on some ice with about as much air as wool, then solid, then wool, and so on. When we feel satisfied with the size, try again, since that should have given us some practice with the finer bits of it. Make sure it isn't too large.
Send the icy ball into the outside world first, as a scout. The air inside should help insulate the inner layers, and stop it from all melting at once.
Cool.
Name the little balls Snowball Scouts until we come up with a better name for them. Send them outside!
And I fail to see why my guess requires us to be in a city--monuments like that are often found outside of cities.
Hm. Well, one thing first...
Create a large number of Snowball Scouts and place them atop the treasure. Add more ice to hold the treasure and Scouts in place. Repeat until the treasure room is full of ice covering the treasure.
The idea is to encase the treasure in ice that we can break with a thought, by having the Snowball Scouts all move together.
Um...wow.-1.
Test our flight abilities by flying around the floating mountain. Also, explore floating mountain.
Look over edge to see what our not-servoskulls (note: build servoskulls) landed on.
Ooh, either we were very clever or someone was very considerate. Identify if the floating island appears to be moving and in what direction. Then enjoy the view, taking an especial interest in the climate and if anywhere appears to be populated.
Fly a bit away from the mountain and then back, to test our stamina.
Wait, we're in a mountain? Looks more like a 'node' to me.
If we can fly fine while still being made of solid ice, then surely we could make minature versions of ourselves and animate them for some support in the event we get attacked.
Create flying version of snowball scouts, send them to scout the stuff around in detail incl. the city.
Create flying version of snowball scouts, send them to scout the stuff around in detail incl. the city.Bah! Usually I'd agree, caution is a good thing. This time though I think we should just go on over and see how it goes. Friendly-like.
// How exactly do you want them to fly? Dude, we do have magic, but there IS stuff that's outside the realm of possibility, for us at least.
// How exactly do you want them to fly? Dude, we do have magic, but there IS stuff that's outside the realm of possibility, for us at least.
Wings made from ice or something like that i guess.
Maintain an altitude above the human vessel. Utilize Kavush to conceal ourselves.Try to think of how to improve senses of the snowball scouts.
But but, hiding isn't the way of the freshly-do-gooder dragon amnesiac! Meta-knowledge: They're seasoned sky pilots. They won't notice a cloud that follows them? [really?.jpg]((We never said anything about following them. We merely observe them for now.))
A cloud that follows them is a lot less suspicious than a dragon made of ice doing the same thing...That's debatable.
Use our telepathy
Good thing we don't need to worry about mana.+1
Use our telepathy toinquire who they are and what they're doingintroduce ourselves and ask them to come around the front for a discussion! (assuming doing so won't sunder their feeble human minds)
Politely!
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Where precisely are they? Are they below us? Or are they at our level and heading towards the node?
If the latter, I doubt it's a coincidence.
So, possibilities (if they're heading towards us):
-Not a coincidence: They knew we would awaken now and/or had wards up.
1. They won't be friendly, but I doubt they'll be able to slay us easily, spess mehreens or not. We shouldn't fire first though.
2. A diplomatic envoy! Times have changed after all. Say hi!
-Coincidence:
1. They're grave-robbers. One hell of a coincidence, none showed up till 5 mins after we woke up. Roar at them! (can we roar?)
2. Our node is a pit-stop/field-trip spot/they're in distress/some other random occurrence.
Clouds are something you see every day. If they're not paying much attention to every cloud, they probably won't think more of us staying in roughly the same position to them as they do of mundane clouds doing basically the same thing. Dragons made of ice? I'd imagine this would be the first time for any of them, not to mention that it's an immediate threat.A cloud that follows them is a lot less suspicious than a dragon made of ice doing the same thing...That's debatable.
-As is the inference that it would be more effective.
But if we want to be friendly, there's no time to start like the present! Let's land on their ship and say hello! Politely & with extreme care!I'd rather scout them out first...at least a quick glance.
They're sky-mariners, boyanced upon the air currents; paying attention to the clouds is what they do.They'd pay attention to a dragon, regardless of if it's made of ice or no.
-Couple that with the fact we're made of magic ice (http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00BeIaEPmtgNou/High-Transparent-Ice-Cube.jpg), and I'd say if we keep pretty high above them we'll be harder to see without our mist.Aheheh. Ignoring how very little ice is like that, we've got bones in the middle. And have you never heard of camoflage?
And darn, I was hoping you'd argue about the relative suspiciousness of stalker-clouds vs stalker-dragons.Well, it's not that I think stalker clouds are inconspicuous, it's that they're pretty mundane compared to dragons.
Assuming they spot us- meanwhile, they will spot the cloud, and it won't take them long (http://immediately) to notice it's not normal. Staying as bones & ice diminishes our profile. Magic ice is magic! Cam-of-lag-e? What is that, some sort of french vid'ya maker?1. Ice isn't air. It's visible. Even if not, bones are still visible.
-Playing the stalker-cloud would be no less obvious to them than snake's box routine.
OKAY, guys, howabout we don't even bother with them unless they're coming straight at us?Um...they are.
((As I have stated, we shall not follow them. Additionally stealth is preferred, not mandatory. Even if they spot the odd cloud, we can send out a golem representative and communicate via telepathic ventriloquy so that they don't get frightened by the sight of an ice encrusted skeletal dragon.))Works better than showing them a big icy skeletal dragon.
Why don't we just go straight up to them? They can't hurt us. If they fire on us we could just leave, or destroy them and warn the town nearby that their airship was taken over by pirates and we avenged them, sadly having to destroy the ship as collateral damage. If they want compensation, we have gold. (Just don't tell them where from)I'd like to get an idea of what they are and why they might be here before attacking them.
Ice isn't air. It's visible. Even if not, bones are still visible.
They can't hurt us.
Why don't we just go straight up to them?
Replace "blue/white," "ice and bones," and "blue sky" with "gray," "fog," and "gray clouds," and both of those apply just as well for becoming a cloud.QuoteIce isn't air. It's visible. Even if not, bones are still visible.As an aeriel hunter, it's probable that we have much, much better vision than ground creatures. We can probably simply be far enough away that the blue/white tones of ice and bone blend in with the blue sky.
Plus, it's a zeppelin. There's a massive balloon above the passenger compartment. Big blind spot.
Which is why we shouldn't show them something like a dragon, which would be worth shooting at first and asking questions never. Weird cloud? Not much point shooting at, if it's worth worrying about at all.QuoteThey can't hurt us.We don't know that. We don't yet know what sort of world we're in. For example, it's possible that hundreds or thousands of years of technological growth may have happened since we were entombed. That might be a steampunk airship with cannons.
On the other hand, why bother not being a cloud if being a cloud is better?
Cannon? Why would they hurt us?! We're friendly! Surely if we just get a hold of their captain, we can explain our situation and have a good chat.
If I were an aerial marine, I'd shoot the cloud first and ask questions later. Clouds have no bus'nuss behaving loik that one there.((I'm pretty sure an ice encrusted skeletal dragon that has been modified with extra bones would be immediately seen as far more threatening than a cloud.))
@gwgWe could watch clouds, go with them. If we were trying, it would be neither obviously stupid nor stupidly obvious.
We aren't a sky mariner, we don't pay attention to how clouds behave, therefore we don't know how we should behave to stay hidden. Merely by following them we could be doing something obvious and stupid.
Nope, he didn't say they were coming at us, he said they were flying 'rather nearby'. The map isn't exactly clear on z-level either.They sure seem to be coming near...although that lack of z-level is annoying...still, it wouldn't be that large if they were a mile away, now would it?
If I were an aerial marine, I'd shoot the cloud first and ask questions later. Clouds have no bus'nuss behaving loik that one there.Remind me never to hire you as an aerial marine.
How so?On the other hand, why bother not being a cloud if being a cloud is better?Snide counter-commentThat's ooc food right there.
[fearful]Not to an aerial marine.[/fearful]Not true.
(Assuming we're spotted, & there is contention as to which is easier to spot *cough*cloud*cough*)
These guys live up there; if we don't behave exactly like a cloud should, they'll be able to pick us out as strange.These guys have brains; if we show up as an ice-covered dragon skeletons, they'll know we're strange and dangerous immediately, without the time taken to observe our movements for a while or for that matter pick us out from the surrounding cloud.
Let's go for the extreme case- if it's an open sky, our bones are bleached-white (or somehow blue) and our ice is pure-transparent, a house-sized dragon at medium/long range is going to be a lot more difficult to spot than an apartment-complex cloud that's following your ship. It'll also be easier to stay in their blind spot, (assuming the balloon is a blindspot).It'd like to note that that's the extreme best case for you. Of course it'll be better.
I reiterate not worrying about them unless they're coming at us.They're coming within spitting distance of our house. Traffic like this is worth investigating.
On the other hand, as I noted above, they're not going to know to look at Cloud X for any minor abnormalities...they're going to be looking for threats. Like dragons. What is it that we would be doing that attracts immediate and obvious attention?QuoteWe could watch clouds, go with them. If we were trying, it would be neither obviously stupid nor stupidly obvious.We won't be able to read them like they can, we aren't a mariner. We dont' have the qualifications yo.
Oh come on now.QuoteThey sure seem to be coming near...although that lack of z-level is annoying...still, it wouldn't be that large if they were a mile away, now would it?Unless they're a mile-long...
1. Oh, come on. That would require there to be a sentry that's watching a specific cloud for no particular reason, and a captain who believes and trusts in this sentry's honesty and sanity enough to believe in a flying cloud.QuoteRemind me never to hire you as an aerial marine.I delight in this conversation.
"Why did you waste the gunpowder and cannonball/ballista bolt/whatever?"
"That cloud is following us!"
"You idiot, it's the wind! Don't fire unless you have some reason to believe that it is dangerous and able to be affected by our weapons!"
Because seriously, what kind of cloud would be affected by weapons?
On the other hand, if we were an icy skeletal dragon, we'd be an obvious and immediate threat, and hence worth firing on immediately. Not to mention, obviously affectable by weapons...
More like
"Why did you waste the gunpowder and cannonball/ballista bolt/whatever?"
"That cloud is following us!"
"Holy shite it is! BY GOD SHOOT IT SOME MORE!"
Because seriously, what kind of cloud would be affected by weapons?
Strange cluuds.
What?QuoteHow so?Being a cloud usually isn't better than the alternative, which makes the quote exotic. Does OOC stuff have to involve macerated ass or something?
That's because they don't exist. You're as much an expert on sky "mehreens" as I am on, say, stars orbiting Jupiter.QuoteNot true.You obviously haven't met a sky mehreen. I am an expert on these things.
"Hey, look, a shiny thing!" (Ice is shiny when clean. And kinda shiny when dirty.) "Oh, look, it is a dragon-shaped shiny thing with a skeleton in the middle! I bet it's some kind of threat!"
Vs:
"Hey, look, that cloud isn't exactly like the rest of the clouds. Must be turbulence or something. Certainly not worth wasting the gunners' time about."
Btw, dwarves exist, so dwarven skymarines is almost undeniably a thing....So many problems with that statement.
Fly back to the starting area. Create a swarm of golems. Make the golems disassemble us and reassemble us in a normal-sized humanoid form with wings. Try and have as much bone in us as possible. Coat ourselves with ice. Create a chest and store the excess bone.-1, aside from being time-consuming enough that we could lose them, it also sounds dangerous.
1. That doesn't solve the issue of breaking us down and building us back up into a humanoid form being potentially dangerous.1. It shouldn't be that dangerous since we could progressively rearrange bones piee by piece, ensuring that for each step in the process, our body can still function.
2. We'd be a dragon-sized dragonman with a dragon-shaped head. Made of ice and bones. How is that less scary?
3. Why are you using parentheses?
I'm not even sure what we're arguing about at this point. Some people want to hide in a cloud. Some want to hide in the blind spot. Some want to telepathically surveil the crew of the airship.That sounds good to me.
So...
Fly above the airship and hide in a cloud in its blind spot and telepathically surveil the crew.
Everyone happy?
1. I still don't think that the danger is worth it when we're on a time crunch.1. That doesn't solve the issue of breaking us down and building us back up into a humanoid form being potentially dangerous.1. It shouldn't be that dangerous since we could progressively rearrange bones piee by piece, ensuring that for each step in the process, our body can still function.
2. We'd be a dragon-sized dragonman with a dragon-shaped head. Made of ice and bones. How is that less scary?
3. Why are you using parentheses?
2. We can have our skull in our chest and use a human skull as a head and see through that. We could always wear an ice mask in front of it as well.
3. Just a habit from ER.
Telepathically communicate with them and ask them to stop shooting at our house. Seek employment from them as well.Employment? Screw that; we be dragon. Employ them.
"The vouice...The ice...Are...Are oyu THE Harbingre of Cold? It is...IT'S IMPOSSIBEUL!"No one expects the Harbinger.
Cacame Apebalded was a dwarven king. Who happened to be an elf.
Elves don't even have kings, just princesses (who are sometimes male) and druids.
Anyways.
Inquire about the legal status of the ownership of my tomb. Specifically, if it and its contents belong to me or someone else.
"Greetings, elves. I am Helchistrasza, owner of this tomb. I have recently woken up from my sleep, if you can call 'dying and getting cases of skeletalism and amnesia' sleeping. I am inquisitive about the world's current state, and according to Tannus (if we remember how to address an elf properly, do that instead), the best course of action would be for me to head to Goldenvale City. If you are heading there, I would wish to accompany you, and if not, I would appreciate some directions."
Oh. Okay then."Greetings, elves. I am Helchistrasza, owner of this tomb. I have recently woken up from my sleep, if you can call 'dying and getting cases of skeletalism and amnesia' sleeping. I am inquisitive about the world's current state, and according to Tannus (if we remember how to address an elf properly, do that instead), the best course of action would be for me to head to Goldenvale City. If you are heading there, I would wish to accompany you, and if not, I would appreciate some directions."
We know where it is, we can see it. We also don't need company- what we do need is to know why they're here and if we'll have problems from them concerning our treasure.
Bah, screw permission! Unless we waltz up to the door guards and ask them- that would be humorous.Because watching them get fussed about how we're staying completely calm at their ranting, if they do so, will be far funnier.
How about: "My name, lady elf, is Helchistrasza, and I would like to inquire as to why you'refiring ondoing whatever it is you're doing to my home."
They're being rather rude, so I don't see why we should be more polite than is absolutely required to be civilized.
Her voice is deep and cold.
deep and cold.
Cold.
"Greetings, elves. I am Helchistrasza, owner of this tomb. I have recently woken up from my sleep, if you can call 'dying and getting cases of skeletalism and amnesia' sleeping. I am inquisitive about the world's current state, and so I am planning to head to Goldenvale City. Do you know how I would be able to acquire permission to enter the city?"+1
"Greetings, elves. I am Helchistrasza, owner of this tomb. I have recently woken up from my sleep, if you can call 'dying and getting cases of skeletalism and amnesia' sleeping. I am inquisitive about the world's current state, and so I am planning to head to Goldenvale City. Do you know how I would be able to acquire permission to enter the city?"
Not much of a reference then, now is it?Cacame Apebalded was a dwarven king. Who happened to be an elf.// This is my universe. In my universe, Cacame was an elven king.
Ow. My head hurts.Her voice is deep and cold.deep and cold.Cold.Use ice-mastery powers make the commander insult the other elf.
+1 But do so while flying away from the line of fire of both sides. Carve it remotely by controlling the ice to carve itself.Not much of a reference then, now is it?Cacame Apebalded was a dwarven king. Who happened to be an elf.// This is my universe. In my universe, Cacame was an elven king.Ow. My head hurts.Her voice is deep and cold.deep and cold.Cold.Use ice-mastery powers make the commander insult the other elf.
Well, it has been hurting for the past few hours, but you know what I mean.
Anyways.
Protect the Hoard! Encase all the treasure in one giant hunk of ice and carve, "Property of Helchistrasza" on it.
Well, I think we're supposed to pick a side here.Why?
That would get us out of the crossfire... but only by the virtue of being on one side, instead of the middle. It would probably be safer to run, but, if we have to pick a side, it looks like the dwarves are a better choice, given the way we were treated by the elves.Well, I think we're supposed to pick a side here.Why?
+1Protect the Hoard! Encase all the treasure in one giant hunk of ice and carve, "Property of Helchistrasza" on it.+1 But do so while flying away from the line of fire of both sides. Carve it remotely by controlling the ice to carve itself.
Why do we need to pick a side? Covering the island in a protective layer of ice and holing up in there seems like an option.A bad option, given the fact that the stability of the island is... less than perfect.
+1 to not picking side. We don't know enough about local politics yet.
And of course politeness to skeletal dragons is a well-known trait of dwarves.+1 to not picking side. We don't know enough about local politics yet.
Besides that elves are rude.
I'm suggesting we wait until we know a little more. Hence, +1 to the ice plating.
Well, I say to hell with being nice! We're a skeletal dragon plated in ice, we've died and came back more badass, I say we ice these petty mortal bitches.Finally someone who understands the pride aspect of being a goddamn dragon!
What happens if they kick our ass (or tailbone, since we have no flesh and muscles)? We've already died. Technically, we're still dead.Having our vessel destroyed is a bad thing, no?
What happens if they kick our ass (or tailbone, since we have no flesh and muscles)? We've already died. Technically, we're still dead.
How large are these airships? Would be nice to be capable of investigating the danger.
Can we try to act like an actual fossil. Maybe end up in a museum, if we're carefull.
Well, how about we try to use our icebreath + mist thing. Rapidly cooling the air around the airships will cause the air to contract, increasing the density, and greatly increasing the upward lift generated by their zepellins. They'll shoot up rapidly, enter the warm, lighter air above, and then drop again. If, the air beneath has warmed again by that point, they might crash. Otherwise, they'll be seriously shaken, or colliding.How large are these airships? Would be nice to be capable of investigating the danger.
Can we try to act like an actual fossil. Maybe end up in a museum, if we're carefull.
// We're about half the size of the gondola part. Go figure.
Ideas?My plan, as detailed above? Wouldn't do to much harm if we limited it.
They might well treat it as a direct attack, either because they don't wait to see how effective it is or because they interpret it's lack of effect as a lack of ability on our part, and that would rapidly lead to Bad Thing.Ideas?My plan, as detailed above? Wouldn't do to much harm if we limited it.
They don't have perfect accuracy, so in chasing & taking potshots at the elves they'd likely hit our house as well. And with that many ships, it might not be long before we've sustained a lot of shots.I'm having trouble imagining a way for them to be on the same side of the node and in danger of hitting us on accident, but maybe that's because I'm assuming that the ships will have distances more comparable to RL air combat than to RL atlatl combat.
Plus, for all we know, it really would be easier to shoot through the node- if it's rather unbalanced, it could fall down with a single volley.If nothing else, they'd be firing blind. And, you know, angering the dragon.
If they're all here for our house anyway,Why do you assume this? Where is the evidence?
I don't think the elf lady gives two shits we're here.All the worse for the elves. Dragons are not to be trifled with. We can't taste them or ketchup, but the elves are still crunchy.
More like RL ship combat. They have canons & muskets, not browning 50s.I'm guessing that anyone with airships is going to have decent ranges on their weaponry. Especially given that what we've seen of their weaponry isn't exactly primitive. Rifled barrels aren't that important to range.
The elf ship won't be on the same side, they'd be near-tangent. Therein lies the danger. You take shots at a guy peeking out of cover with a musket, at range, and you expect the cover to come out of it unscathed?The problem here is that I don't agree with your assumption.
The fact that they're all here is rather convenient, and the elven ship shooting at our house and sending a party to board it is also strange. They must have had some interest in the node, because discovering us was a discovery. They weren't here for us.That doesn't mean they'd care. For all we know, the elves were interested in seeing if this node was worth mining and the dwarves just wanted to kill the elves.
They aren't too plussed by us being a dragon- we've heard of a dragon-king, and the reactions indicate we're not too common. Their technology may have made them cocky, and steampunk's instilled in me a tendency to assume everyone's nationalistic. Aka not estimating opponent's capabilities fairly.We're clearly not a normal dragon, however. In any case, it would take quite a stupid dwarf to decide to antagonize a dragon for no real reason.
"Sir, it looks like there's a...dragon on the rock."
"Destroy it too, the vermin's probably in-league with the elves."
That kind of thing.
Do we really want to stay and have our hand forced like that?As opposed to what, flying away and forcing our hand in a different direction, more strongly and certainly?
I'm not as much of an expert on firearms as I'd like to be.Beg yer pardon? It makes a huge difference- that +bullet profile & what kind of powder they use. According to the wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musket), the difference between a rifled-musket (a rifle) and a musket was a factor of 5. And these things go hand in hand- he had a musket on him. They're not going to be sporting modern artillery pieces if the guy's armed with a musket. It's a good thing airships are nice, fat, slow-moving targets; they can fight eachother with cannon and muskets.More like RL ship combat. They have canons & muskets, not browning 50s.I'm guessing that anyone with airships is going to have decent ranges on their weaponry. Especially given that what we've seen of their weaponry isn't exactly primitive. Rifled barrels aren't that important to range.
Fair enough, my assumption was wrong after all.I'll try to identify and point out your assumptions more quickly in the future.
I cannot think of any reason to antagonize a dragon in this situation. If there was a gain? Perhaps. For no particular reason? No.QuoteOr a headstrong dwarf that has an armada at his back. I don't think they'd be able to tell the difference between a normal dragon and an abnormal dragon, nor would they necessarily care.QuoteThey aren't too plussed by us being a dragon- we've heard of a dragon-king, and the reactions indicate we're not too common. Their technology may have made them cocky, and steampunk's instilled in me a tendency to assume everyone's nationalistic. Aka not estimating opponent's capabilities fairly.We're clearly not a normal dragon, however. In any case, it would take quite a stupid dwarf to decide to antagonize a dragon for no real reason.
"Sir, it looks like there's a...dragon on the rock."
"Destroy it too, the vermin's probably in-league with the elves."
That kind of thing.
Precisely. Hence why I wanted to stay.QuoteWhat direction? If we had stayed and they had all started fighting, we would have been fired upon. Our more belligerent members would have cried for attack!, and they would have been justified. It'd be rather significantly harder to be friends or neutral with the dwarves after that, and we would have gained nothing for it.QuoteDo we really want to stay and have our hand forced like that?As opposed to what, flying away and forcing our hand in a different direction, more strongly and certainly?
There is one problem with being so awesome that the dwarfs are afraid to attack.*smack*
THEY'RE MILITARY DWARFS. If there's one thing they are, it's too dumb to flee.
Every source of fiction I know of has dwarfs that simply won't back down against horrible doomy things, especially when they've got good weaponry.There is one problem with being so awesome that the dwarfs are afraid to attack.*smack*
THEY'RE MILITARY DWARFS. If there's one thing they are, it's too dumb to flee.
Not everything is 110+% DF!
"Yes, I was once known as the 'Harbinger of Cold', though that was far in the past.Yes.
...would you happen to know anything about current laws and regulations regarding the establishment of a business? I'm considering making and selling frozen confectionery."
"Oh my Lord, she is here! SHE IS HERE! THE HARBINGER OF COLD IS UPON US AGAIN!"
Don't be silly."Oh my Lord, she is here! SHE IS HERE! THE HARBINGER OF COLD IS UPON US AGAIN!"
Comfort the poor silly dwarf with motherliness. Clearly he's having a bad day and needs a hug.
What he needs is a frozen confectionary
I think he was talking about the elves.Yar, but the elves were still well-armed. Didn't strike me as an archaeology crew, (though they could be a martial society for all we know, (though in that case, why would they waste time on silliness like archaeology when there's wars to be fought?)).
If their legends are that vague on what we are, they probably haven't seen many dragons in the past century, if any in the past millenium. Also important: If we are a legend to them, attacking us would be about as smart as punching, say, Thor.
If they are of the 'who cares about the dragon, we have stuff to do' attitude, they're still likely to think "Let's be willing to spend an extra minute on this simple task so we don't risk the wrath of such a being anyways."
I was asking for plans of how to make it clear that we were not to be trifled with, not plans of how to abandon everything we have for no particular reason.
"For that matter...tell me all the lore of myself that has survived the ages."
Yush, do what those two said.
"I would also like to know why there is, apparently, some sort of rebellion going on."
"Oh my Lord, she is here! SHE IS HERE! THE HARBINGER OF COLD IS UPON US AGAIN!"
Comfort the poor silly dwarf with motherliness. Clearly he's having a bad day and needs a hug.
Yar, but the elves were still well-armed. Didn't strike me as an archaeology crew, (though they could be a martial society for all we know, (though in that case, why would they waste time on silliness like archaeology when there's wars to be fought?)).I'm guessing that those weapons they had were for protection and/or dealing with whatever things they found in those ancient tombs. And as for why: Ancient artifacts and the like, of course!
One might not be so scared if one were to meet thor, and he were only 6' tall and wielding a normal hammer.Not seeing the relevance. We're hardly unintimidating, and they haven't had evidence that we're anything less than their legends.
Nah, we're imagining different possible dwarves.I'm imagining dwarves who take 5 seconds to think before acting and avoid taking stupid risks.
The reason was to stay neutral (& (alive)). I'm of the 'easy come easy go' attitude towards our worldly 'possessions', (they may not legally belong to us).I prefer sticking around until we have reason to flee.
-Or perhaps dwarves/elves are old enough to remember the last time we were upon them?Usually not, no. Unless we find wizards or vampires or something.
QuoteNah, we're imagining different possible dwarves.I'm imagining dwarves who take 5 seconds to think before acting and avoid taking stupid risks.
So yes.
Considering the dwarf didn't shoot at the dragon at random like the elf did, they might be more rational.
the dwarf saw a flying skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and decided that the thing to do was to use a jetpack to leave the warm cozy safety of his 10 airship armada to fly solo up that skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...to ask if it was the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and then panicked only after she politely said yes and asked about the market for frozen confectionaries.FTFY.
So, braver, maybe. More rational? I'm not so sure.
Considering the dwarf didn't shoot at the dragon at random like the elf did, they might be more rational.
On the other hand, while the elf that fired did so as a careless fear reaction to a flying skeletal dragon....the dwarf saw a flying skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and decided that the thing to do was to use a jetpack to leave the warm cozy safety of his 10 airship armada to fly solo up that skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...to ask if it was the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and then panicked only after she politely said yes.
So, braver, maybe. More rational? I'm not so sure.
Less violent, certainly. Which proves that they are not DF-like dwarves, which proves that they would neither inflict wanton destruction for no reason nor attack a dragon because it's there.Considering the dwarf didn't shoot at the dragon at random like the elf did, they might be more rational.On the other hand, while the elf that fired did so as a careless fear reaction to a flying skeletal dragon....the dwarf saw a flying skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and decided that the thing to do was to use a jetpack to leave the warm cozy safety of his 10 airship armada to fly solo up that skeletal dragon hanging out near the tomb of the legendary Harbinger of Frost...to ask if it was the legendary Harbinger of Frost...and then panicked only after she politely said yes.
So, braver, maybe. More rational? I'm not so sure.
Yarr, fair enough.Yar, but the elves were still well-armed. Didn't strike me as an archaeology crew, (though they could be a martial society for all we know, (though in that case, why would they waste time on silliness like archaeology when there's wars to be fought?)).I'm guessing that those weapons they had were for protection and/or dealing with whatever things they found in those ancient tombs. And as for why: Ancient artifacts and the like, of course!
Well, usually you'd expect thor to be 10' tall, clad in shimmering god armor and wielding a hammer of pure lightning. Since we're just...How tall are we anyway? Since we're only that tall instead of the size of a large castle and not currently murderating everything, I'd say that's evidence against our (possible) legends right there.QuoteOne might not be so scared if one were to meet thor, and he were only 6' tall and wielding a normal hammer.Not seeing the relevance. We're hardly unintimidating, and they haven't had evidence that we're anything less than their legends.
"Oh my Lord, she is here! SHE IS HERE! THE HARBINGER OF COLD IS UPON US AGAIN!" - he shouted, and he could have probably been heard even by the now-absent elves."Now then, mountaindweller. I have destroyed thousands, brought down entire civilizations, and defeated death himself, yet here you are to brave me alone, without even the help of your mechanical monstrosities. Such courage impresses me .
// No BBCode because I'm on my phone atm. Sorry!
Hellboy hardly seems practical.
10 feet tall, with a hammer made of lightning? What kind of legends have you been reading?
Says the guy saying all elves are Nazis based on a few not liking the undead dragon? On a more practical note, we can easily see what dwarves are not like by viewing the behavior of the fleet.
Yeah. I can't wait to hear what we supposedly did.
"Now then, mountaindweller. I have destroyed thousands, brought down entire civilizations, and defeated death himself, yet here you are to brave me alone, without even the help of your mechanical monstrosities. Such courage impresses me .-1 to anything evil or aggressive
Now tell me why you're here, and I might happen unto someone else. "
Going from full evil to quite nice won't work. I mean, we're so culturally entrenched in their histories, and I doubt they understand us decently, that they'll just treat us as an impostor, or a mad ghost.They have jetpacks. Functional jetpacks that work for more than 8 seconds and barely ever flip out and kill the user when he's not being accidentally mindraped by a skeletal abomination. What makes you think flavoured ice is anacronistic?
On a side note, since we're dealing with -1's anyway.
-1 to any and all anachronistical things
We were frozen for 5000 years. What makes you think we know about any of these new ideas. Hell, if the history is at all similar, we're older than writing, or the majority of civilizations. We've probably been deified or something.Yeah, but we might have just thought up the idea of frozen-confectionery. We haven't done anything that indicated that we knew about the existence of ice-cream we merely indicated that we had an idea that involved making frozen foods.
We were frozen for 5000 years. What makes you think we know about any of these new ideas. Hell, if the history is at all similar, we're older than writing, or the majority of civilizations. We've probably been deified or something.1) Frozen confectionaries have been around for thousands of years IRL.
1) We have been around for 3000 years more.We also have the ability to make ice out of thin air. That would drastically increase the chances of it being used for things like deliciousness.
2) Which would indicate an unusually slow progression of technology. Probably a few incidents, that knocked them back to the beginnings.How do you know?
The existence of frozen confectioneries is not a problem since we are intending to invent them. Hence we are assuming that they do not exist and that we will develop the first ones. Therefore, whether or not we could have known about them has no relevance.A valid point.
The existence of frozen confectioneries is not a problem since we are intending to invent them. Hence we are assuming that they do not exist and that we will develop the first ones. Therefore, whether or not we could have known about them has no relevance.It's hard to speak about things when you don't even know what it is. Also, you can't intent to invent something.
Not really. Supply of ice isn't the problem. I mean, glaciers and stuff exist, and storing ice to cool food is a fairly common practice. Also, winter. In fact, the ability to freeze things at will would actually decrease the chance of developing frozen confectionaries, as it tremendously decreases the need for them. (Don't need refreshments to keep you cool when you can just decrease temperature.)1) We have been around for 3000 years more.We also have the ability to make ice out of thin air. That would drastically increase the chances of it being used for things like deliciousness.
Whoops, miscalculation.2) Which would indicate an unusually slow progression of technology. Probably a few incidents, that knocked them back to the beginnings.How do you know?
You're making a number of fairly large assumptions there, not to mention that you ignored the fact I specifically said we have the ability to make it out of thin air.Not really. Supply of ice isn't the problem. I mean, glaciers and stuff exist, and storing ice to cool food is a fairly common practice. Also, winter. In fact, the ability to freeze things at will would actually decrease the chance of developing frozen confectionaries, as it tremendously decreases the need for them. (Don't need refreshments to keep you cool when you can just decrease temperature.)1) We have been around for 3000 years more.We also have the ability to make ice out of thin air. That would drastically increase the chances of it being used for things like deliciousness.
Anyway, the current course of actions will likely result in them thinking of us as an imposter, or just plain mad.To the first: Yes, you're right, they likely often encounter ice covered animated dragon skeletons claiming to be the legendary Harbinger of Cold right outside the tomb of said legendary dragon right when it's scheduled to be freed from imprisonment in its own corpse. Probably happens all the time.
We were frozen for 5000 years. What makes you think we know about any of these new ideas. Hell, if the history is at all similar, we're older than writing, or the majority of civilizations. We've probably been deified or something.Demonized, more likely...
"Dead and useless, or just dead?"
"How long have the elves & dwarves been fighting?"
blargh, darn dwarf didn't answer the question. Did they start fighting a month ago or 10 years?
Does the shield just turn everything to stone? Hehe, the naming committee would have a field-day if that was the case.First, the elves put up a shield that turned everything that was dropped on them to stone.
They wouldn't hit anything vital on those elves.Does the shield just turn everything to stone? Hehe, the naming committee would have a field-day if that was the case.First, the elves put up a shield that turned everything that was dropped on them to stone.
Then, they all died from head trauma.
Simple, I assume you're familiar with the fall of the Mountainhome GildedTrees. It fortifications were considered undestructable, it's militaries legendary. I covered it in a glacier, never to be seen of heard again.Siege warfare activate!
Now their shield blocks everything it considers harmful. We just block them in, cover the shield in Ice, so to speak. No air, no light, no escape. They will surrender within a month, or starve.
Simple, I assume you're familiar with the fall of the Mountainhome GildedTrees. It fortifications were considered undestructable, it's militaries legendary. I covered it in a glacier, never to be seen of heard again.Siege warfare activate!
Now their shield blocks everything it considers harmful. We just block them in, cover the shield in Ice, so to speak. No air, no light, no escape. They will surrender within a month, or starve.
I -1 to warfare, we are a peaceful purveyor of frozen goods, killing customers is bad for business and we still have little idea of the situation.
Attempt to calm the dwarf down.If this fails, freeze the dwarf. Ice freezes fire, dwarf! And if it doesn't, the melting ice should impair the equipment.
he paused and ran straight into the building.
if he discovers your hoard his reaction will be obvious.
You were right.
"GOLD! GOOLD, GOLD EVERYWHERE!".
"GOLD! GOOLD, GOLD EVERYWHERE!".
Then he runs out
He had to show the dwarves were crazy too- things were stacked against the elves.
Let's just kill everybody then.I think you need to re-examine your business strategy.
and given that his scales were flashing like golden coins, he must've been long in the tooth.
btw, what do you mean by// He's old. Older dragons have shinier scales than the young ones.Quoteand given that his scales were flashing like golden coins, he must've been long in the tooth.
five thousand years
"and even less will survive for long enough to get to it before the demons."I'd wager it's billions of ground creatures, if many cities will fall just today- explains why our node was in the shape it was, (pristine).
"And lo, the Legions of Hell did Invade Once More, as they would every Thousand Years. And lo, the Creature they were originally made Pacts with to stop did Return after 5000 Years of Slumber. And Verily did the Great Beast look upon the Legions of Hell and Command them to "chill out and buy some frozen confectionaries, guys, it'll deal with your temper problems no worries!" And the Demon Legions did Purchase the Frozen Confectionaries of the Great Beast for Very Reasonable Prices, and Consume them Rapidly, lest they should Melt and be Less Frozen.That is the most epic thing I've heard all day XD. WE SHALL FIGHT THE LEGIONS OF HELL USING CAPITALISM!
And it was good."
Which reminds me: did we actually manage to freeze Urist McGOOOLD's napalm stream? What's that, it'd need to be around -160 to do that? I don't care!Hmm... I wonder whether or not demons are immune to fire, if they are, we can sell them frozen napalm-based confectionery...
Question: what kind of mortality rate would it take to undo all technological advances? 60%? 80%? 90+?
Ha, that would be ironic. (Weak to ice)
Which reminds me: did we actually manage to freeze Urist McGOOOLD's napalm stream? What's that, it'd need to be around -160 to do that? I don't care!
Protect the golden dragon on his way to the chamber. Make icy mist all around the battlefield along the way.