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Title: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: magmaholic on October 01, 2013, 01:18:10 pm
I just had an idea:

Brain is a learning machine.It takes neural input,and tries to make use of it.
This is how more advanced prosthetics work.

Now,what will happen if it is wired to something people still cannot understand,as in quantum entanglement?
Will it give one the ability to alter their enviroment at will,or something else?


EDIT:i tried asking it on yahoo answers,and i completely regret it.People kept wawing around some guys crackpot theories,not real answers.

Also apparently there are people who think that magic actually exists.These are not the people i want to ask this question from.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=MAGIC? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: crazysheep on October 01, 2013, 01:22:54 pm
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to ask here.. seeing that quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon which you can't wire directly to an object.

If you're trying to ask whether you could manifest quantum entangled particles in the brain, I'd say it's possible, but tricky, and I'll have to get back to you on that in the morning.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=MAGIC? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: magmaholic on October 01, 2013, 01:30:07 pm
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to ask here.. seeing that quantum entanglement is a physical phenomenon which you can't wire directly to an object.

If you're trying to ask whether you could manifest quantum entangled particles in the brain, I'd say it's possible, but tricky, and I'll have to get back to you on that in the morning.
Question was,if you could entangle particles at will,given the required prosthetics,and what abilities it would give to one.
There are people (biohackers) who have operated permanent magnets against their nerves,and their brain responded by using them as a sensor for magnetic fields(or was it electric fields?),as an extension to their body.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: miauw62 on October 01, 2013, 01:54:32 pm
I can use quantum magic to generate infinite power hah.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: magmaholic on October 01, 2013, 02:06:10 pm
I can use quantum magic to generate infinite power hah.
NO!
BAD DOG!
SIT DOWN!
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: LordSlowpoke on October 01, 2013, 02:19:48 pm
I can use quantum magic to generate infinite power hah.
NO!
BAD DOG!
SIT DOWN!

where exactly are you going with this
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: sjm9876 on October 01, 2013, 02:29:53 pm
I can use quantum magic to generate infinite power hah.
*Miauw harnesses the Magon.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: crazysheep on October 02, 2013, 02:32:44 am
Hmmmmm. I'm very tempted to say that you could create a mind reader, if you entangled nerves and somehow duplicated memories and feelings from there.

But maybe that's just me rereading Peter Hamilton's sci-fi series too often.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: Grek on October 02, 2013, 04:22:27 am
Short answer: No. This would not give you any sort of special powers.

Long answer: A device that produces quantum entanglement is a device that produces pairs of tiny particles that have opposite spin values. The ability to do this is interesting from a physics experiment point of view, but supremely lacking in practical applications. There's no known way to do mind-reading, free energy, FTL communications or any of the things you're likely thinking about using quantum anythings. It would be pretty much like having a remote control for a particle accelerator or a fume hood or some other piece of heavy and expensive lab equipment wired to your brain.

Hmmmmm. I'm very tempted to say that you could create a mind reader, if you entangled nerves and somehow duplicated memories and feelings from there.
A] Creating quantum entanglement requires that the two particles interact. This interaction requires the particles to be very close together. In order to "read" someone's mind with it, you would have to rub all of the particles in the brain of the person to be read up against an equal number of identical particles somewhere in the brain of the reader. Which is obviously all sorts of fatal for both parties.
B] Even if you did somehow get all of the particles in a person's brain quantumnly entangled with all of the particles in someone else's brain, the quantum state of the brain does not determine thoughts: It's the chemical and electrical level interaction that makes your brain think. Quantum entanglement has nothing to do with it.
C] Assuming you did get the a portion of one person's brain to physically match the corresponding portion of the other person's brain in all important respects, that would be as useful in terms of learning their thoughts as cutting out a chunk of the "mindreader's" brain and inserting a chunk of the person-to-be-read's brain. Which is to say: Not very helpful.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: miauw62 on October 02, 2013, 05:58:10 am
Thank you.
Title: Re: Biohacking+quantum mechanics=what? Or am i just being silly?
Post by: magmaholic on October 02, 2013, 09:07:57 am
Thank you indeed.
Now that we have this silly thing out of the way.i can lock tis thread.