"Employee" List [7/7]:
AlleeCat> tn5421 [On-site Journalist]- Worldmaster27 [Lingual Proofreader]
My Name is Immaterial [Semantic Transcriber]-- Lynched D1; Real Profession: LinguistComrade Shamrock> McDonald [Morale Overseer]-- Lynched D3; Codename: Pioneer; Vanilla MafiosoTheDarkStar [Ethical Astrologer]-- Killed N2; Real Profession: Meteorologist- Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum [Acronym Writer]
Krevsin [Neologism Translator]-- Lynched D2; Real Profession: Spetsnaz Intelligence Operator {Cop}
"Intellectual Counselors" (ICs) [2/2]:
Nerjin [SoCom Professor]-- Killed N1; Real Profession: Social Studies Instructor- Silthuri [Medical Representative]
"Subverted Intellectual Counselor" (SCUM IC) [1/1]:
- Persus13 [Resident Philosopher and Balloon Technician]
Scum IC are IC who belong to mafia. Don't trust me, I have never played.Are going to join in?
Quick question. What is difference between IC and "Scum IC"?Regular IC's actually play in the game. The Scum IC doesn't. They just hang out in the Scum Chat and give the scum advice.
I'm in. I haven't played in several months, so I'm probably not going to play as well as I used to.Hey, you're back.
Also, Scum IC indammit.
I'm in. I haven't played in several months, so I'm probably not going to play as well as I used to.Hey, you're back.
Also, Scum IC in
Note: I will often post from phone so don't expect very long posts from me.Similarly, I largely won't be posting from around 11pm to ~4pm GMT -5
Dammit Tiruin, why did you start this while I was on vacation and so missed the signups. I will watch instead.eep :x
Dammit Tiruin, why did you start this while I was on vacation and so missed the signups. I will watch instead.eep :x
Is there anyone on the playerlist willing to move to the replacement queue due to this? Comrade was one of those who wanted to join before the BM was created.
Tiruin, are you buried under a pile of assignments or something?We tend to reuse the OP from the last BM, so she probably just forgot to change that part of the title.
Edit: Title says it's game XLIX but introduction says XLVIII?
PTW
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Immaterial, random lynching is a bad idea, because we have a higher risk of killing our own.That's true, but, if you read Bookthras's rant on D1 lynches, you'd know that its a risk worth taking. Quoted from the OP for convenience.
Spoiler: On D1 No-lynches (click to show/hide)
Random-lynching D1 is not the only alternative to No-lynch. Generally a D1 Lynch is only made after enough information has found to determine someone being scummy. How do you find that information? Ask lots of questions, randomly vote people to try and pressure them (along with questions) , and if you think something seems off, prod at it by asking more questions.Immaterial, random lynching is a bad idea, because we have a higher risk of killing our own.That's true, but, if you read Bookthras's rant on D1 lynches, you'd know that its a risk worth taking. Quoted from the OP for convenience.
I guess I should question someone?This is a good start, but generally you should ask more game relevant questions. Here all AleeCat has to do is respond by saying blue, and she's of the hook. For instance, in one Mafia game I'm in I asked the question "Who do you feel you can reliably tell whether or not they're scum?" to Tiruin in my opening post. While I wouldn't recommend a question like that to a newer player (because you haven't played Mafia with anyone), find some question to ask.
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
(Random.org, who shall D1 lynch?)
TheDarkStar, you scummy-scum!
I guess I should question someone?
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
MNII:Because I was jumping in blindly with the sparse knowledge I've gained from a few games played in person, and half-understood advice in hand.(Random.org, who shall D1 lynch?)
TheDarkStar, you scummy-scum!
Why didn't you ask any questions?
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:
If you were the jailkeeper, would you jail to block or jail to protect?
MNII:Because I was jumping in blindly with the sparse knowledge I've gained from a few games played in person, and half-understood advice in hand.(Random.org, who shall D1 lynch?)
TheDarkStar, you scummy-scum!
Why didn't you ask any questions?
If you were Mafia, who would you not kill?
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:
If you were the jailkeeper, would you jail to block or jail to protect?
It would depend on the situation I guess...
Jailing to block wouldn't accomplish much with two scum, would it? So protect the cop (or wait until there is only one scum) if there were two scum.
But if there was only one, I would try to block the scum, because they couldn't kill someone in jail. That way no one dies, and you learn who the scum is.
Comrade Shamrock:I would be torn between the two. I wouldn't want a scum to be leading the scumhunt. But also their larger number of posts would present an easier read and is more likely to be town. But the one who wasn't doing much could be a scum who is lurking. So, I would probably check the one who wasn't doing much unless I had very strong suspicions of the scumhunter and wanted to confirm.
If you were the cop, would you check the person who wasn't doing much or the person who was leading scumhunting?
Sorry to inject a note of worry. But doesn't the jailer also protect the victim. So if you jailed the victim of the nightkill and you accused them of being scum. You could actually accuse and possibly lynch town. This would then expose your role as jailor for accusing the wrong person.
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:
If you were the jailkeeper, would you jail to block or jail to protect?
It would depend on the situation I guess...
Jailing to block wouldn't accomplish much with two scum, would it? So protect the cop (or wait until there is only one scum) if there were two scum.
But if there was only one, I would try to block the scum, because they couldn't kill someone in jail. That way no one dies, and you learn who the scum is.
Same question to you.
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:Sorry to inject a note of worry. But doesn't the jailer also protect the victim. So if you jailed the victim of the nightkill and you accused them of being scum. You could actually accuse and possibly lynch town. This would then expose your role as jailor for accusing the wrong person.
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:
If you were the jailkeeper, would you jail to block or jail to protect?
It would depend on the situation I guess...
Jailing to block wouldn't accomplish much with two scum, would it? So protect the cop (or wait until there is only one scum) if there were two scum.
But if there was only one, I would try to block the scum, because they couldn't kill someone in jail. That way no one dies, and you learn who the scum is.
Well, scum could also accuse you, and if they can win that lynch, you've lost.Same question to you.
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:Sorry to inject a note of worry. But doesn't the jailer also protect the victim. So if you jailed the victim of the nightkill and you accused them of being scum. You could actually accuse and possibly lynch town. This would then expose your role as jailor for accusing the wrong person.
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum:
If you were the jailkeeper, would you jail to block or jail to protect?
It would depend on the situation I guess...
Jailing to block wouldn't accomplish much with two scum, would it? So protect the cop (or wait until there is only one scum) if there were two scum.
But if there was only one, I would try to block the scum, because they couldn't kill someone in jail. That way no one dies, and you learn who the scum is.
... Rereading, apparently the jailer can use their power multiple times... Oh.
True, but it would narrow it down to the one remaining person... And then you block the real scum the next night... Still wins with only one non-scum killed. And I doubt it matters if they know you are the jailer at that point, because you win anyways.
... Rereading, apparently the jailer can use their power multiple times... Oh.There is also a major hole in your logic. I don't think you are told whether you blocked the activity of the one jailed or blocked the incoming kill. So you are left none the wiser and you just pushed it to another day. For the certainty you are looking for you would have to be the doctor.
True, but it would narrow it down to the one remaining person... And then you block the real scum the next night... Still wins with only one non-scum killed. And I doubt it matters if they know you are the jailer at that point, because you win anyways.
... Rereading, apparently the jailer can use their power multiple times... Oh.There is also a major hole in your logic. I don't think you are told whether you blocked the activity of the one jailed or blocked the incoming kill. So you are left none the wiser and you just pushed it to another day. For the certainty you are looking for you would have to be the doctor.
True, but it would narrow it down to the one remaining person... And then you block the real scum the next night... Still wins with only one non-scum killed. And I doubt it matters if they know you are the jailer at that point, because you win anyways.
I guess I should question someone?Erm... green? Is there a wrong answer?
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
Cptn: To reiterated what TheDarkStar asked me, what do you think is the most important scumtell to look out for?
MNII: What's your experience with mafia? Have you ever indirectly caused your side to lose? If so, how?I've played a few games with friends. I'd guess at a total of 25 rounds as a liberal estimate. 15 is conservative.
MNiI: Who do you think is the most likely scum?I'd like to answer that question later, once I've seen more talking.
MNII: To expound on what I said, have you also ever directly caused your side to lose?No.
TheDarkStar: I have yet to play an actual game of mafia, so I'm not sure what would be the best scumtell. That said, I think that an important one and a good give away would be band-wagoning. It's fine to vote for someone if there is lots of evidence against them and/or one party has a good argument; it's another thing when there's only a couple of pressure votes and a player throws his/her vote in but doesn't contribute much as to why they voted the way they did.
TheDarkStar: If you were, say, scum, and you knew who the doc and cop were, who would you kill first? Which is a more of a threat to you?
Silthuri:I personally would not No Lynch. The lynch is town's main weapon. Deaths, even if they're town, are useful. Or at the very least more than a No Lynch would. No Lynch D1 is also frowned upon because scum is basically getting a free Night Kill and you can't count on the scum killing someone who will provide information. Town will be no further the next Day without a lynch.
If you can't find anyone who is scummy by the end of Day 1, should you no-lynch? Why/why not?
Silthuri and NerjinHmm... flailing. By that I mean rapidly changing focuses. Throwing one's vote around (not necessarily a tell in RVS). Panicking, being a bit too defensive, buddying with another player, excessive WIFOM (see OP).
Is there any less common scumtells not covered in the OP to help us find scum? I'd like to be prepared in case we have IC scummery.
Silthuri and Nerjin:I look for scumtells, of course, but I also look for people who seem to be acting oddly. Most of the time, this is just a gut feeling, but it can be useful nonetheless. It's very hard to differentiate between a newbtell and a scumtell, as many of the scumtells are newbtells as well.
What are you both respectively looking out for when you look for scum? Is it hard for you to differentiate between newbie flailing and scum slipups, or is it obvious?
Krevsin:Because I am a massive noob and have never played a Mafia game.I guess I should question someone?
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
Why did you ask a question that won't give any useful information?
Krevsin: What do you think of D1 lynching? Is it more beneficial to the town or the mafia?Speaking statistically, if it is a random lynch, there is a greater chance of it being beneficial to the mafia because there is a greater number of town players. As such, there is a greater chance of picking a town player and thus benefiting the mafia.
Not really, it was a stupid question anyway. :PI guess I should question someone?Erm... green? Is there a wrong answer?
AleeCat what is your favourite colour?
TheDarkStar:Comrade Shamrock:I would be torn between the two. I wouldn't want a scum to be leading the scumhunt. But also their larger number of posts would present an easier read and is more likely to be town. But the one who wasn't doing much could be a scum who is lurking. So, I would probably check the one who wasn't doing much unless I had very strong suspicions of the scumhunter and wanted to confirm.
If you were the cop, would you check the person who wasn't doing much or the person who was leading scumhunting?
Same question to you.
Immaterial:If it's a BM game, Scumhunter. Sounds like the "Trying too hard to be town" to me.
It is Lylo and there is you, a lurker and the leading scumhunter. Both are claiming cop and both are claiming each other are guilty. Who do you vote for?
AlleeCat:I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
AlleeCat:Well, it's just that I know lurking is a big killer in BMs. I just don't want to get lynched on Day 1 of my first Mafia game.
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
How else are we supposed to lynch people if everyone doesn't have a gun?Rope? It worked for everyone else.
I was joking. And, not that it matters, your suspicion is unfounded.I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
HOping to be on the replacement list if that ever happens :DSUPERBLACKCAT!!!!!
AlleeCat: Thank you for joining us, I hope you heal quickly. Now, as for the question: If you were a power role and everyone was convinced you were mafia, how would you try to get out of the situation?Well revealing on D1 seems like a death sentence, so I would only use it as a last resort. Otherwise I might try to convince people to shift the blame from me to someone I thought was more scummy, and use that evidence of course. On D2 or 3 I would probably reveal, since I've probably already used my role a bit more and if I'm killed during the night at least I've already been useful. My one goal would really just be to get the vote off myself. Not so I can live longer, but because it would be a waste of a lynch.
AlleeCat:I wasn't worried that he was accusing me, I was just getting suspicious because he seemed to be trying to incite something by accusing me od having a gun.
Oh, getting very defensive. As far as I know, there is no pre game play. So, why are you worried? This is about your response to Immaterial btw. I took that up as humour and so it seems very suspicious that you're getting uppity at that and so quickly too. Especially since you seem to be OMGUS'ing Immaterial. Accusing him of being suspicious for making a joke. (At least, I think it was a joke)
AlleeCat:Well, it's just that I know lurking is a big killer in BMs. I just don't want to get lynched on Day 1 of my first Mafia game.
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
Alleecat, you're being very defensive over a casual joke. While I'll be the first to admit that sarcasm doesn't transfer well over the internet, there's no other way to take it. It's pretty plainly irony.Because I have a history of taking things way more seriously than they need to be. I apologize, but I still think that "joke" was not something to just pass off as nothing, with how easily it could be misconstrued. You had to have known that before you said anything, right?
Why are you jumping to such conclusions?
I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
These to me indicate worry. There is no way he could have investigated you. You then go to say you are a normal townie with the last I checked part as if for emphasis. This seems to me like he struck a nerve and you exploded. This make it seem very much like you are scum.I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
I was pointing at MNiI not Shamrock, and again, I reacted that way not out of fear, but because I found it very suspicious that he would accuse me of having a gun or whatever he meant by that "joke," that, by the way, had no real context, either.He was making a play on the words, shot in the foot for the gun. He had absolutely nothing to go on apart from your favourite colour and a question. Where in that could he draw you being scum or even try to pull off an accusation. Don't say your lack of posts, Nerjin has less than 1, which is to say none.
I was pointing at MNiI not Shamrock, and again, I reacted that way not out of fear, but because I found it very suspicious that he would accuse me of having a gun or whatever he meant by that "joke," that, by the way, had no real context, either.No real context? What are you talking about?
I was expanding on Comrade Shamrock's joke. (This was a joke, right?)AlleeCat:I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
Immaterial:Noted.
Next time, make your jokes are clearly noted as such either by smilies or [joke]
Immaterial:Comrade Shamrock, you seem to also be overreacting - it's fairly important to post at least once a day if possible. "Shooting myself in the foot" means impairing yourself in some way, which not posting definitely does. What is it about this that makes you suspicious?
Mine was not a joke. I was asking a serious question. I was picking at her choice of words. Shooting herself in the foot was the phrase which made me suspicious of her. It implied a lot of worry for only missing a day when Nerjin an ICs has not been active. I FOS'ed her which should've made it apparent I was serious.
Immaterial:She was worried about not posting, she made a big deal about it. She had the same number of posts as Silthuri and more than Nerjin, who are the experienced players. I asked 2 questions. Immaterial made a joke and Allee overreacted to it. It made me very suspicious, so I moved from FOS to a vote.
Mine was not a joke. I was asking a serious question. I was picking at her choice of words. Shooting herself in the foot was the phrase which made me suspicious of her. It implied a lot of worry for only missing a day when Nerjin an ICs has not been active. I FOS'ed her which should've made it apparent I was serious.
I was expanding on Comrade Shamrock's joke. (This was a joke, right?)AlleeCat:I think the better question is why she had a gun...
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?
DarkStar
Please note this post, specifically the bolded part.Immaterial:She was worried about not posting, she made a big deal about it. She had the same number of posts as Silthuri and more than Nerjin, who are the experienced players. I asked 2 questions. Immaterial made a joke and Allee overreacted to it. It made me very suspicious, so I moved from FOS to a vote.
Mine was not a joke. I was asking a serious question. I was picking at her choice of words. Shooting herself in the foot was the phrase which made me suspicious of her. It implied a lot of worry for only missing a day when Nerjin an ICs has not been active. I FOS'ed her which should've made it apparent I was serious.
DarkStar
Please note this post, specifically the bolded part.Immaterial:She was worried about not posting, she made a big deal about it. She had the same number of posts as Silthuri and more than Nerjin, who are the experienced players. I asked 2 questions. Immaterial made a joke and Allee overreacted to it. It made me very suspicious, so I moved from FOS to a vote.
Mine was not a joke. I was asking a serious question. I was picking at her choice of words. Shooting herself in the foot was the phrase which made me suspicious of her. It implied a lot of worry for only missing a day when Nerjin an ICs has not been active. I FOS'ed her which should've made it apparent I was serious.
She did not make a big deal, it was just a small note. You made it into a big deal. Also, why do you think she made more of a deal about it than she should have?
Comrade Shamrock, please explain more.
ICs: What do you think of these accusations? Are they just overractions to a figure of speech, or a mafia newb slip-up?
ICs: What do you think of these accusations? Are they just overractions to a figure of speech, or a mafia newb slip-up?
Comrade has 2 votes, and Allee has 2 votes. That correct?Yes. :3
Spoiler: Immaterial (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Krevsin (click to show/hide)
You should only use Spoilers if you're doing a HUGE quote-pyramid or as a sorting mechanism. Keep in mind, also, that people do NOT read walls of text. Once your post grows to a certain point it becomes a skimming. It sucks, but that's how it is.
Comrade, you are really just reading too much into this. I'm not sure if it's because you're new or whatever but you are. She misread a joke. It happens. But let's go with it eh?
You cite the overreaction to the joke, her saying "Last I checked...", and her saying "Immaterial is saying "I know Allee is scum..." yes? That seems to be your three main points. Let's examine them.
Overreaction to Joke
You state that her overreaction to the gun thing is scummy because it is A) A joke, B) Sending suspicion her attackers way.
Well, A) Jokes don't transfer well. What may seem like a joke to you will seem like a serious attack to someone else. It is the medium of the game to blame for this. B) Imagine that someone is claiming they know for a FACT that you're scum [which is what Allee thought at the time] and you know that you are NOT scum. But they phrase it in a way that seems like it may be less of a direct accusation so you're not sure if they're actually saying they think that or not. Wouldn't you be a little wary?
Last I checked
This isn't really worth mentioning. People have little writing tics that just happen. She was likely just typing what came to mind and typed that out. It doesn't mean anything.
Allee: "Immaterial basically said "I know Allee is scum etc. etc.
Is your last point. You state that this is an exaggeration of Immaterial's post. I agree. It is an exaggeration. However, that doesn't mean anything. She wasn't attacking him at that point so far as I could see. She was exaggerating it to prove a point. It happens kiddo. I just don't see this as a problem.
Immaterial:I realized that it was a rather weak arguement, and that tactically, I would be better off not voting based on the information provided this turn.
What made you decide to reconsider your vote?
AlleeCat: Why is it that you sometimes seem to be not responding to questions posed at you? It seems a bit scummy to me if you don't answer questions, especially if you've otherwise been more or less active in the thread. Also when a question was in the post directly above yours, which you ignored.I've been responding to every question I've noticed. If you ould point out some questions I didn't answer that you would like me to, please go ahead and quote them.
DarkStar:
Who, besides me, do you have on your list of likely scum?
AlleeCat: Thank you for joining us, I hope you heal quickly. Now, as for the question: If you were a power role and everyone was convinced you were mafia, how would you try to get out of the situation?And, soon after this post
with a distinct lack of an answer to my question. You did respond to my question soon enough so that was fine. However, the following is what peaked my interest.AlleeCat:Well, it's just that I know lurking is a big killer in BMs. I just don't want to get lynched on Day 1 of my first Mafia game.
Why did you feel you shot yourself in the foot? Something to hide?I think the better question is why she had a gun...Woah hey what? I'm not sure if you're trying to say you investigated me and found a gun, or if this is some hypothetical roleplay stuff or what, but last I checked, I was a normal townie. So either way I'm getting pretty suspicious of you.
AleeCat: The cop finds out that TheDarkStar is scum, and TheDarkStar reacts by claiming you are his scumbuddy. How do you defend yourself?Granted, you could have just missed this but you posted
I reread my post and discovered that it did come off as a little jumpy. I didn't mean it that way. The fact was that I didn't know how investigations were working and whether or not he was trying to reveal himself and pin me as a suspect. This combined with my being loopy on pain meds and having very poor word choice because of that did not make for a very good post, I'm afraid.after about twenty minutes of inactivity in the thread. There was not much else to distract you from the question that you couldn't have read in 5 minutes, much less 20.
I distinctly remember answering this one. The problem is that a lot of times people post questions while I'm typing a reply to something else. Instead of trying to answer the newly posted question in the same post, I try to get the current post out ASAP and then read over the other question(s) and reply to them in a second post. This is mainly due to me effectively having one arm for the purposes of typing.AlleeCat: Thank you for joining us, I hope you heal quickly. Now, as for the question: If you were a power role and everyone was convinced you were mafia, how would you try to get out of the situation?
AleeCat: The cop finds out that TheDarkStar is scum, and TheDarkStar reacts by claiming you are his scumbuddy. How do you defend yourself?I would point out that there are only two reasons TheDarkStar would try to sell out his scumbuddy. Either he's just being a dick to his teammate by throwing them under the bus and making them lose, or he's trying to take a town down with him by claiming someone else. Either way, it's not a very good move, since the former would ensure a town victory and the latter is pretty easy to see through.
Allee:Sorry, did not explain WIFOM properly. It is a circular argument of logic stemming from the belief that's what he wants me to believe.
Look at the situation you just presented. There is another line of thinking to that. He could be actually be outing his partner but thinks the town won't lynch the partner because he believes they'll think it's a plan to lynch town. This is what WIFOM is. The town will probably lynch out of caution.
Immaterial:I don't understand the question.
Are you just providing yourself an excuse to vote at who seems easiest?
Immaterial:No.
I was asking if you are lying about being susceptible to peer pressure thing to give yourself a way to explain voting with the crowd, bandwagoning and the like. But, I think you are genuine for not understanding the question.
DarkStar:
Fair enough. Do you think Immaterial is providing an excuse or is it genuine?
Allee:
Look at the situation you just presented. There is another line of thinking to that. He could be actually be outing his partner but thinks the town won't lynch the partner because he believes they'll think it's a plan to lynch town. This is what WIFOM is. The town will probably lynch out of caution.
Allee:Usually when you vote for someone to be lynched, it means you're willing to lynch them.
And how willing was I to lynch you over that overreaction? I'm not saying you wouldn't have a chance to defend yourself. But, I'm saying some err (me included) on the side of caution and will lynch just to be sure.
Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?
Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?
I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.
I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.
My Name is Immaterial is the scummy looking one here. He says he was prodding, but it seems more like bandwagoning to me. Then he says he needs to sleep on it, then that he would be better off not voting at all. That is a big turn around, and is suspicious.Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?
I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.
Even if we're busy asking questions, you should, too. You probably have a slightly different perspective, and we want to hear that.
What do you think of the AlleeCat situation so far? Who seems scummy to you?
Not neccessarily. From what I've read of some older games, voting for someone can be used to apply pressure to them just to see how they react. Of course, one can never tell whether the accuser was merely swayed by the accused's argument or whether such a tactic has been employed.Allee:Usually when you vote for someone to be lynched, it means you're willing to lynch them.
And how willing was I to lynch you over that overreaction? I'm not saying you wouldn't have a chance to defend yourself. But, I'm saying some err (me included) on the side of caution and will lynch just to be sure.
My Name is Immaterial is the scummy looking one here. He says he was prodding, but it seems more like bandwagoning to me. Then he says he needs to sleep on it, then that he would be better off not voting at all. That is a big turn around, and is suspicious.Cptn:
So far, you have been very passive. You have only responded to questions never asked them. Is there a reason behind this or are you just letting us lynch ourselves?
I'm sorry, but you guys seem to be doing the questioning fairly well yourselves. Also, I wasn't sure what I should be asking at the beginning.
Even if we're busy asking questions, you should, too. You probably have a slightly different perspective, and we want to hear that.
What do you think of the AlleeCat situation so far? Who seems scummy to you?
Then saying he is easily swayed by peer pressure, when at first he said he was prodding.
((Should I be putting in the quotes here?))
Okay, I'm sorry. I'll try to ask more questions now.
Nerjin, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
Comrade Shamrock, who do you think the scum are most likely to kill night one this game?
Sorry, I was really tired last night because I just got back from a trip, and so I wanted to get some sleep before making a vote. (Also I kind of forgot I could vote for people, not sleeping is bad).*snip*
Captain:
Why did you list a bunch of suspicious things about MNiI but not vote him or ask him any questions? It looks like you're noting things so that you don't seem scum, but not voting so that people don't put pressure on you (or maybe so that you're not voting your scumbuddy, but that's less likely). Also, yes, it's good to use quotes.
Sorry, I was really tired last night because I just got back from a trip, and so I wanted to get some sleep before making a vote. (Also I kind of forgot I could vote for people, not sleeping is bad).*snip*
Captain:
Why did you list a bunch of suspicious things about MNiI but not vote him or ask him any questions? It looks like you're noting things so that you don't seem scum, but not voting so that people don't put pressure on you (or maybe so that you're not voting your scumbuddy, but that's less likely). Also, yes, it's good to use quotes.
Now that I've slept, My Name is Immaterial, I think you are a scum.
TheDarkStar, if you were the jailkeeper, who would you protect/block tonight?
Nerjin, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?
Comrade Shamrock, who do you think the scum are most likely to kill night one this game?
Silthuri:
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?
Nerjin:
Does Silthuri usually play with so little posts?
Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.
My Name is Immaterial, if you were scum, who would you kill night one?At this stage in the game, I don't see any benefit from killing a specific player. The layers of bluff and double bluffs that exist around such a choice are too inpenetrable to handle. I would use Random.org. If there's no method to my madness, there are no leads.
Silthuri:I also want to point out in your posts like Cptn. you have been very passive. While Cptn. has inexperience to explain that, you do not. You're only piece of proactivity was to FoS me.
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?
Both Darkstar and Nerjin saw fit to actually vote me. Darkstar voted before you. You possibly FoSed me to seem like you were doing something but not actually bandwagoning. You even promised to try and put questions in your post before that.ICs: What do you think of these accusations? Are they just overractions to a figure of speech, or a mafia newb slip-up?
I'm more inclined to believe it's a figure of speech, implying that she thought she'd be branded a lurker and lynched for missing a day. I also feel that Comrade Shamrock is the one who made it a big deal by blowing a figure of speech way out of proportion.
Keep in mind that many players take mafia extremely seriously. Jokes that seem incredibly obvious and funny will not be obvious or funny to others. I do suggest using joke tags or a :P, but sometimes even they can't block the conspiracy theories that people cook up.
I'll try to post a few questions sometime tomorrow.
Worldmaster: Say it's D3 and you're the last scum left. One of the two towns left is sure it's you, but the other is still on the fence. How would you try to convince them to vote for the other one?It would depend on the way I had played up until that point, and how the other two have been playing. If the accuser has been lurking or could be seen as active lurking, or had some evidence of bandwagoning in the past or any other behaviors that could be interpreted as scummy then I'd exploit that as much as possible. I'd also try to play off any concerns the guy on the fence had before about the accuser or his/her's hesitation to lynch fellow town. I'd also try to exploit any weak points in the accuser's argument and try to turn them into something that makes the accuser seem scummy. Mostly just playing off the areas where s/he's unsure about, and breaking down my oppenent's argument wherever possible. Taking advantage of any questionable actions in the past, i.e. erratic behavior, would also be a big focus.
Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.Nerjin and Slithuri play with you (and you don't know if they are scum or not). I coach the scum players. I will rarely post in the actual thread, and hopefully this will be my last post in-thread until the game is over.
Silthuri:RL sapping my time. College more specifically. It's only week two of the semester and work is already piling up. So no. I'm not lurking. I'm just smothered in text books. :P
Is there a reason why you have faded? You have two posts. The last was 32 hours ago. Are you lurking?
I also want to point out in your posts like Cptn. you have been very passive. While Cptn. has inexperience to explain that, you do not. You're only piece of proactivity was to FoS me.I have a habit of reserving my vote, only voting when I think someone's genuinely scummy. I handle my vote with care and I hadn't had the time to think your actions through. I am also a very passive player in mafia.
Both Darkstar and Nerjin saw fit to actually vote me. Darkstar voted before you. You possibly FoSed me to seem like you were doing something but not actually bandwagoning. You even promised to try and put questions in your post before that.I was undecided as to whether it was all a scum ploy or if you genuinely thought Allee was scummy. As I've said, I tend to use my vote only when I really think someone's worth lynching. If I'm unsure, I usually will not vote.I'll try to post a few questions sometime tomorrow.
Immaterial:I just dont have the drive to start something right now.
Why are you waiting for someone to prod? Conduct something yourself if you're waiting.
In the commanding center of the Underground, notably a fancy term for a nondescript and similarly spartan room which contained a full map of the facility and the surrounding regions, Tiruin held up a paper and pushed it through the fax machine...or particularly that machine which is able to transport and transmit encoded messages in text to multiple areas at any one time.Wait, ICs actually play with us? Or am I getting confused? That seems odd to me since we'd already know Persus is scum and Nerjin and Silthuri aren't.Nerjin and Slithuri play with you (and you don't know if they are scum or not). I coach the scum players. I will rarely post in the actual thread, and hopefully this will be my last post in-thread until the game is over.
MNiI Are you always this indecisive on D1?Yes. It's always such a conundrum for me.
Comrade: Who do you think is the most suspicious right now and why?I think Immaterial is the most scummy player. There was that completely random vote at the start. No questions, just a vote and a thank you to random.org. While probably just a mistake on an account of inexperience, I do attach a little scumminess to this. Then there was when he voted Allee, when Nerjin and DarkStar opposed it he withdrew his vote. While he said it was for consideration but did not reveal his conclusion until prompted by me. This may indicate a hope his vote might be overlooked or that he could be a scum who dislikes unpopularity. There is now also his failure to start a case. He states he can't find the drive for it but it may just be that he can't spot anything another doesn't put in front because he is scum.
You not doing anything does not help town. You know what happens when someone lurks until the last couple of days? People will vote to lynch them. If you are town, then that means your laziness now will screw town over in the future. Surely there is SOMETHING you want to ask other people. Even if it's a followup to someone else's question.Mind you the original advice is to Cptn. I also removed the bits about being new.
Pseudonym: "MNII"
Profession: Linguist
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You are employed as an on-field Linguist and Proofreader, having a 'knack' with words and situations where they must be used. You have applied to this post due to past experiences, rather unstated in the resume, as personal observations have called you towards their usage in everyday life. You are a man of insight--having seen the power of words in how society adapts and is moulded by. There is much ahead in your life, and this peaceful power will lead towards that fate.
There only lies determination, wisdom and a will to persevere. Your life is what you make of it, and in these troubled times, you must stand firm. You have a choice--that is something that will never be taken from you. Your tongue is your sword and your mind is your shield.
You are town.
Wincondition: You win when all of the mafia are eliminated.
And my incompetence has been my undoing. Urgh.Shoosh. Snacktime for you. :I
[REDACTED]Stop talking means stop talking. End of discussion. After day ends, you DO NOT TALK.
Bloop!do not exist. In fact, Tiruin might give you all permission to edit out those posts.
D1 has ended! :O
Please wait for printing of finalized documents.
Any game relevant posts after this post:Yep, please do, everyone! :DBloop!do not exist. In fact, Tiruin might give you all permission to edit out those posts.
D1 has ended! :O
Please wait for printing of finalized documents.
Any game relevant posts after this post:Yep, please do, everyone! :DBloop!do not exist. In fact, Tiruin might give you all permission to edit out those posts.
D1 has ended! :O
Please wait for printing of finalized documents.
It's all trivial in hindsight though. No big damage done (if at all).
Pseudonym: Nerjin
Profession: Social Studies Instructor
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You are employed as a teacher and Intellectual Counselor, due to your knowledge in humanism and the general art of society, its hierarchical mechanics and constructs. You are a man of insight, though also a person of benevolence--your knowledge is a sword and shield in itself, and of great value as proven by history. There is much ahead in your life, and this peaceful power will lead towards that fate.
There only lies determination, wisdom and a will to persevere. Your life is what you make of it, and in these troubled times, you must stand firm. You have a choice--that is something that will never be taken from you. Your tongue is your sword and your mind is your shield. Your teachings will have far more worth in this fight than any other weapon--they will be remembered.
You are a counselor and [REDACTED]
You are town.
Wincondition: You win when all of the mafia are eliminated.
Okay, let's start this.
Everybody, sum up your mafia experience. How many games did you play? Do you know people here?
Okay, let's start this.
Everybody, sum up your mafia experience. How many games did you play? Do you know people here?
TheDarkStar: Since you mentioned power roles, if you were a Cop and found out somebody is scum this night, what would you do?
McDonald - I'm not sure how much Comrade's action should carry over to him, so he's a fresh slate.
Everybody, sum up your mafia experience. How many games did you play? Do you know people here?None. No.
Hooray post quick before I have to go.
DarkStar: I'm honestly terrified of misusing the town's only weapon. I'm trying to only use it when I'm sure that someone is scum, but that obviously isn't working out. I'll try to make a case when I get back on later tonight based on whatever happens today.
Hooray post quick before I have to go.
DarkStar: I'm honestly terrified of misusing the town's only weapon. I'm trying to only use it when I'm sure that someone is scum, but that obviously isn't working out. I'll try to make a case when I get back on later tonight based on whatever happens today.
Here's the thing about voting: You can change it later. You can pressure vote someone now, and then change or retract it when you don't want to vote for that person anymore. Also, if you don't want to vote for someone/are already voting for someone else, you can put their name in to indicate that you're suspicious of them.
However, you don't have to vote to pressure someone at all. You can just ask questions about what people have said.
Krevsin: Question me if I haven't given much info.Okay. In your list, you never raised suspicion of anyone, being mostly neutral about their stances. Who do you think is scum? Why?
I'm super sorry for being absent again. The reasons behind this disappearance will probably be explained in detail in the sad thread but suffice it to say that it's medical. I'll probably need to be replaced, unfortunately.It's related to the injury of the arm before, mm... :S
TheDarkStar: Do you have any more questions?
TheDarkStar and ICs: Why is it that appearing to be active lurking is more important to you than just plain lurking?
I'm asking to be sure if you read my answers, and... To see if you have more questions.
Slithuri: If you were mafia and this was a regular non-BM game, who would target next and why?I don't like this question. If I were to explain this, scum could easily kill who I claimed I would and suspicion would fall upon me.
Everybody, sum up your mafia experience. How many games did you play? Do you know people here?
Krevsin: I'm suspicious of Worldmaster and Silthuri, because of their possible lurking.*facepalm* You're suspicious of me for having legitimate RL reasons for being absent?
Well, I hope that the replacements are able to play.
AlleeCat's replacement: What do you think of her actions? Do you think that her overreaction was justified? Who do you find scummy?
Krevsin's replacement: What do you think of the things that have happened? Who do you find scummy?
Silthuri, did you ever post your reads? (This is not entirely a scumhunting question, so it's a bit different).
My problem is, I think McDonald is scummy because of what happened day one, but I don't know what to do because replacements...
Does anyone have any comments on my vote? Come on, no one has attacked my case at all.
@Everyone: Why are you voting to shorten the day?
Can anyone provide a summary of what has occurred so far?
Wait, can't the cop only investigate at night?Yes, cop can only investigate at night.
Can anyone provide a summary of what has occurred so far?Not much worthy of note, aside from the current cop claim. Just skim through. There hasn't been much activity.
Can I replace?
Cptn Kal votes McDonald...Err. Crud. I just send SBC Krevsin's Role.
McDonald votes Krevsin
Cptn Kal votes Krevsin
Silthuri votes Krevsin
Worldmaster votes Krevsin
Silthuri opposes the Shorten!
tn54 votes Krevsin; Shorten
McDonald adds Shorten
Worldmaster Shorten
Silthuri Shortens.
[...D end]
TDS votes Krevsin; Shortens
SBC appears! :O
Worldmaster un..shortens.
Tiruin, calm down. Don't panic. We can wait while you sort this out.He learns Krevsin's role...That's it.
If superblackcat has read it, just let him replace Krevsin and die, removing the problem. Actually, is it that big of a deal? Besides the private chat, does SBC learn anything we won't know from lynching?
Just end the day.I can't do it now because I'm busy :I
Pseudonym: Krevsin
Profession: Spetsnaz Undercover Agent
Cover Occupation: General Translator
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You are employed as a linguistic translator, having persuaded the higher-ups in the Press of the capabilities and power of translated and natural languages. You are a man of insight, though tempered by your duty and open-mind--having seen the tyranny of the government. You work towards your own goal with a sect of the military, though to prove something that is a rarity in history: to fight and win through word alone, where guns and force is a common solution.
There only lies determination, wisdom and a will to persevere. Your life is what you make of it, and in these troubled times, you must stand firm. You have a choice--that is something that will never be taken from you. Your tongue is your sword and your mind is your shield.
You carry a radio set and a set of encoded documents, connecting your status and authority with the rebellion.
You are town. Each night, you can inspect a fellow player in order to see their alignment.
Wincondition: You win when all of the mafia have been eliminated.
Pseudonym: TheDarkStar
Profession: Astrologer/Meteorologist
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You are employed as a general writer and meteorologist, able to watch the skies to predict good days for the sale of your paper in subtlety--especially in these dark times. You have applied to this post due to past experiences, rather unstated in the resume, as your past was one of peace and intellectual bliss. You are a man of forewarning and experience--having been entrusted books and education in your youth, though tempered by a creative and quick-learning mind. There is much ahead in your life, and several times have you thought about that.
There only lies determination, wisdom and a will to persevere. Your life is what you make of it, and in these troubled times, you must stand firm. You have a choice--that is something that will never be taken from you. Your tongue is your sword and your mind is your shield.
With knowledge of the weather and skies, you are a vital though subtle asset to the rebellion. Your knowledge spans high and above that of the governments, and your job as a freelance contributor to the scientific fields is quite a boon to the people--one less mind controlled by the tyranny that oppresses the masses.
You are town.
Wincondition: You win when all of the mafia are eliminated.
Just saying, McDonald, that you should probably get a sig.
Keep looking for interesting quotes; like I did for mine.
My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.
Clearly we are waiting on Silthuri to reverse his 'oppose shorten' vote to end the day.
Don't need to waste time updating me; I did read most of the thread. And hopefully we get another replacement.
I'd put tn5421 in vanilla/jailkeeper. I would trust her with my life!
I am town. There is a strong chance that McDonald is also town.
McDonald didn't try to abuse that fact that I implied he was conftown, this makes me feel better about him.
I don't think we should vote him without a lot of discussion first.
McDonald didn't try to abuse that fact that I implied he was conftown, this makes me feel better about him.
Hey, Silthuri, where are you? You were online at Seven Thirty it says. Why didn't you post?
I am town. There is a strong chance that McDonald is also town.This... this seems very scummy to me. You appear to be trying to buddy with McDonald, who we are 100% sure is scum, and you're trying to stop us from voting for him, at least for now.
McDonald didn't try to abuse that fact that I implied he was conftown, this makes me feel better about him.
I don't think we should vote him without a lot of discussion first.
No, it's just the way you said it and the fact you are scum. Mostly the second bit.
tn5421 appears to be defending a scum player, and that by itself is scummy. Also, tn5421 is actively lurking, and, as Worldmaster says, they could have been working together say one so it seems they weren't together. He also isn't posting much of use. I'll ask again, what did you hope to gain by blocking McDonald?
Hey, Silthuri, where are you? You were online at Seven Thirty it says. Why didn't you post?
tn5421 is town. I'm honest.
Cptn: I've been thinking about this, and actually I think it may be more beneficial to get the potential mafia now and then be 100% sure on who the last mafia is on the final day. This way we won't have to wonder and possibly be tricked or convinced otherwise on who the mafia is tomorrow.
As such, I change my vote to tn5.
tn5: Your active lurking isn't helping matters. Be more helpful if want to convince us that you aren't mafia.
No, it's just the way you said it and the fact you are scum. Mostly the second bit.
tn5421 appears to be defending a scum player, and that by itself is scummy. Also, tn5421 is actively lurking, and, as Worldmaster says, they could have been working together say one so it seems they weren't together. He also isn't posting much of use. I'll ask again, what did you hope to gain by blocking McDonald?
Hey, Silthuri, where are you? You were online at Seven Thirty it says. Why didn't you post?
No, it's just the way you said it and the fact you are scum. Mostly the second bit.
tn5421 appears to be defending a scum player, and that by itself is scummy. Also, tn5421 is actively lurking, and, as Worldmaster says, they could have been working together say one so it seems they weren't together. He also isn't posting much of use. I'll ask again, what did you hope to gain by blocking McDonald?
Hey, Silthuri, where are you? You were online at Seven Thirty it says. Why didn't you post?
I assumed that he fake claimed cop as scum and therefore was the person to block to stop a nightkill.
It's still probably true, but he wasn't the person to submit a kill.
My impression of this post: blah blah im scum that needs to push a mislynchTo me, it seems as though you're just meekly accusing me without putting any thought into it. You're not even giving me an FoS.
tn5: Really?I thinkMy impression of this post: blah blah im scum that needs to push a mislynchTo me, it seems as though you're just meekly accusing me without putting any thought into it. You're not even giving me an FoS.
I assumed that he fake claimed cop as scum and therefore was the person to block to stop a nightkill.And
It's still probably true, but he wasn't the person to submit a kill.
I am town. There is a strong chance that McDonald is also town.Defending McDonald, saying he is town, but also saying he is scum. Why?
I don't think we should vote him without a lot of discussion first.
No, it's just the way you said it and the fact you are scum. Mostly the second bit.
tn5421 appears to be defending a scum player, and that by itself is scummy. Also, tn5421 is actively lurking, and, as Worldmaster says, they could have been working together say one so it seems they weren't together. He also isn't posting much of use. I'll ask again, what did you hope to gain by blocking McDonald?
Hey, Silthuri, where are you? You were online at Seven Thirty it says. Why didn't you post?
I assumed that he fake claimed cop as scum and therefore was the person to block to stop a nightkill.
It's still probably true, but he wasn't the person to submit a kill.
tn5421, why did you say you thought he was town then? You did know we have two scum, yes?
tn5: Really?My impression of this post: blah blah im scum that needs to push a mislynchTo me, it seems as though you're just meekly accusing me without putting any thought into it. You're not even giving me an FoS.
That's not going to make you seem any less scummy.
Could you please at least try to make an argument? Or even seem moderately not scum? ::)
tn5: Really?I thinkMy impression of this post: blah blah im scum that needs to push a mislynchTo me, it seems as though you're just meekly accusing me without putting any thought into it. You're not even giving me an FoS.she (Silent anger at always typing she) is OMGUSing Worldmaster.
Worldmaster didn't post an argument, and it is possible she is correct, he is pushing a mislynch. But, she also didn't post any reasoning behind that thought.
I actually skipped this before because of the blahblahblah at the beggining, and the lack of any substance.
Also, she said that she thinksI assumed that he fake claimed cop as scum and therefore was the person to block to stop a nightkill.And
It's still probably true, but he wasn't the person to submit a kill.I am town. There is a strong chance that McDonald is also town.Defending McDonald, saying he is town, but also saying he is scum. Why?
I don't think we should vote him without a lot of discussion first.
Worldmaster27 votes McDonald
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum votes Worldmaster
" Unvotes
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum votes tn5421
Silthuri votes McDonald
Worldmaster27 changes to tn5421
tn5421 votes McDonald
Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum changes to McDonald
McDonald votes tn5421
If the game is in a LYLO or MYLO situation, there will be no formal deadline. >50% Players must vote to end the day, or votes must not change for 24-hours.Now, unsure if anyone else stated it--we're in a LYLO situation: Lynch or Lose; LYLO/MYLO is a term from the town perspective that unless the first 2 acronym letters are done right, they lose.
Pseudonym:"Comrade" ShamrockMcDonald
Codename: Pioneer
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You have worked in various fields related and pertaining to the profession of literature ever since a young age. Having been brought up by the government as an 'orphan' (with knowledge of your parents having been murdered as political dissidents years ago), you were trusted and learned enough to be sent on this "mission" with another co-operative; unarmed and in the midst of the people you trusted, even with some called friends, your motive is of exposure and wit--merely by the tongue, as a show of intellect of the government instead of forced arms.
Though you have ulterior motives, and your conscience hinders you from attempting any other form of misdeed to hurry the objectives. You are a curious individual, and not all seems right with how you started this attempt.
You are mafia. You have access to the shared night kill of your faction.
If you have forgotten or require aid from your allies, the Department of Philantrophy has given you a reminder in a tiny note. (http://nooooooooooooooo.com/)
Wincondition: You win when the town faction has equal or less players than your faction.
I doubt you're willing to listen to me, but both me and the scum know what happened.
Tiruin: Can scum choose to not kill someone at night?Any player who has an ability has a choice to use it or not use it--this also pertains to factional actions like the scum NK. Unless said otherwise [ie Overeager Vigilante], there is a choice to not commit an action.
Request Replacement then. Have at it, 4mask.
Okay, so the way I see it is:
Worldmaster and me are town.
tn5421 seems extremely scummy, and has done about half of the list on common scum tells in the OP. She is using the claim of jailkeeper to protect her from any attempt to attack her, but not actually making defences. Also, ragequitting the scum is a really dumb move here. Why would you even try that? The scum would win, because you can't protect everyone. If you know who they are like you say, kill them!
Silthuri is lurking. Seriously, it's been almost a week since your last post, and that was only because I coloured your name blue. "Ah! Schoolwork!" is not a real excuse. You could spend five minutes posting something, you are online quite a bit! Or weekends! Should we replace you? It's a bit late now, but seriously?
Okay, so the way I see it is:
Worldmaster and me are town.
tn5421 seems extremely scummy, and has done about half of the list on common scum tells in the OP. She is using the claim of jailkeeper to protect her from any attempt to attack her, but not actually making defences. Also, ragequitting the scum is a really dumb move here. Why would you even try that? The scum would win, because you can't protect everyone. If you know who they are like you say, kill them!
Silthuri is lurking. Seriously, it's been almost a week since your last post, and that was only because I coloured your name blue. "Ah! Schoolwork!" is not a real excuse. You could spend five minutes posting something, you are online quite a bit! Or weekends! Should we replace you? It's a bit late now, but seriously?
The fact that there was not a kill in the same night I targeted someone should tell you that either I'm lying (which I have no reason to do) or that I'm telling the truth and that I either blocked scum or scum decided to nokill.
Cptn, let me put it like this.Are you talking about my town read about you? Or my actual town read? Can someone explain this please?
If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
The fact that there was not a kill in the same night I targeted someone should tell you that either I'm lying (which I have no reason to do) or that I'm telling the truth and that I either blocked scum or scum decided to nokill.
If you are scum, you have every reason to lie.
Tn5421, what is the reason you won't tell us who you blocked?Cptn, let me put it like this.Are you talking about my town read about you? Or my actual town read? Can someone explain this please?
If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
If you die, I become a confirmed town? Because that's what it sounds like you are saying to me...
And the only way I could be confirmed town (In game) is if a cop looked at me, and our cop is dead. Do you mean the game ends if you die?
Tiruin, can the scum rolecop use a night kill and a search in one night?
You only have one townread that isn't yourself and that's World, but please pretend im talking about 'clearing' you because the game will be over.
Like, did you drop some fucking acid before you logged in?
You're REALLY deluded at this point, but I guess I can ask you a question.
Why would I be interested in having a townie cleared before LYLO in the event of my death?
Cptn, let me put it like this.
If I die, your townread is confirmed town.
Tiruin, can the scum rolecop use a night kill and a search in one night?In this game? Yes. In the past games I've BM'd? No--mostly because I thought of the matter as 'training as if regular game', wherein the scumteam would be planning in advance how to efficiently conserve the powers at hand.
You only have one townread that isn't yourself and that's World, but please pretend im talking about 'clearing' you because the game will be over.
Like, did you drop some fucking acid before you logged in?
You're REALLY deluded at this point, but I guess I can ask you a question.
Why would I be interested in having a townie cleared before LYLO in the event of my death?
Are you seriously attacking me because I'm sick and tired and can't think straight?
Also, not everyone understands things the same way you do. Worldmaster and I both didn't get it. No need to freak out at me!
You need to remember this is a beginner game. I haven't played mafia before, and I think differently from someone who has.
But now that you've explained it, I see what you mean. Talking about who I see as town. That makes sense.
If you were a jailkeeper, to win the game. If you were a scum, to say Worldmaster was the scum when no one dies tonight.
Also, you are changing your story again. Before you said you wanted to troll the scum until they ragequit, and now you say you want to sacrifice yourself to win the game.
tn5:
If you think I'm scum, FoS me. Unless you don't want to seem suspicious if I'm killed and end up being town...
And how so is she deluded? Why does she seem more scummy than yourself? When did you state that you were supposedly blocking me?
One townread besides herself is to be expected. There's four of us, and one scum. It would be smart to have more than one suspect.
Cptn I literally didn't read the rest of your post and don't intend to, since only scum have motivation to use out-of-game elements to deflect criticism.... Are you serious? This coming from the person who swore at me, and accused me of being on acid. Okay.
I will role block you every single day of the week, and if a kill happens then you're confirmed town. If no kill happens you look more and more suspicious, and if the mod is worth his salt mafia faction will lose because of inability to kill.Tiruin is a girl, and I think she is a good mod. Since you keep bringing this up, lets ask her.
since only scum have motivation to use out-of-game elements to deflect criticism.
hardclaimAre you now saying that Cptn is likely scum? Because there's only one scum left and you also seem to be claiming that I'm scum.
read: throw the game because you know im right and dont want to admit it
I don't want you lynched today. I want a no-lynch today so that I might continue to target you.By target, do you mean attempt to make him seem scummy by not night killing?
Mafia is a game of interaction. Your refusal to have any legitimate discussion with me hurts the game.Your refusal to calm down and stop insulting us or even try to have a debate is what paints you as scum. You refuse to to believe that there is any possibility of your being wrong either.
You completely and utterly refuse to believe that there is any possibility of you being wrong. This attitude has no place in a game of mafia, and certainly makes me feel better about what I'm going to do, which would be permaban worthy in just about any other circumstance.
Blackmailing the town, like "You can lynch me, but you'll be sorry when you see I was town all along!"List of common scumtells in the OP.
Voting yourself for any reason.
What happens if I Unvote, and there isn't a hammer?O_O
Tiruin decided if the game is over or not, not you.
This is a perfect example of why I'm leaving after FHPBYOR.You could pretty much stop generalizing us all ::)
there isn't even a fucking hammer*points at OP*
you can't really call this mafia, because its not
there isn't even a fucking hammerCorrection: it is not mafia as you understand it from the mafiascum forums. However, our beginner games do not have hammers to allow for maximal discussion time and ease of life for the mod.
you can't really call this mafia, because its not
The game is over.I don't think any of the players here dislike you on a personal level. They are trying the best they can to play the game to their wincons (whatever those are), and are following the Bay12 meta of seeking out scumtells actively quite well, I'd say. They are new, yes, but they are playing the game well. They both believe you to be the last scum (or are scum lying that they do), and as such are voting you.
I 'claimed' scum. Pile your vote on so town can learn that just because they don't like someone on a personal level doesn't mean they're scum.
Tiruin, could you Lock the thread please? Give people time to calm down?This.
-removed-
Okay, 4mask.
@4mask: the version that doesn't employ a hammer is called werewolf, actually.That depends on the forum you go to. Here, we call things mafia even if they lack hammers.
@mod: Why don't you tell me word for word how a lynch is decided.In the B12 forums, Mafia board subsection of the Forum Games and Roleplaying Board, we decide lynches in these ways:
im spent and no amount of break time is going t ofix thatIt may not change the situation your environment is in, however in my state I can infer that it must be toxic enough to affect your daily life either in stress or through mental frustration.
I went out of my way to commit a bunch of tells on the list of common tells to see who would try to look past that and who would fall into the trap.Well, considering it is possible (Read the OP well) for there to not even be a jailkeeper this game I don't think this was a good idea. Why would you set a trap for your teammates tn5421?
It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.How could we be familiar with it? This is our (or at least my) first game of mafia with you.
It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.How could we be familiar with it? This is our (or at least my) first game of mafia with you.
Are we supposed to just take your word that you're jailor?</rhetorical questions> You're just as easily scum not killing any one.
Why should we not put stock into the scum tells?
Let me add onto Cptn's question in the way I think she meant it: "If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"
I don't see how appearing as scum would "catch scum" any more than suspicious town members.
I am not actually familiar with much meta, considering this is my first game ever...
And I don't fully trust Worldmaster, but I consider him the least scummy.
I am aware scum has access to them, but they are common for a reason. If no one was doing them this game, then I would focus on other things.
Also, yeah. Worldmaster explains it better then me.
"If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"
The scum tells are what makes me think you are scum. Is you were faking them, then you had me fooled. I was focusing on you, because you seemed the most scummy.
She didn't target anyone..... Presumably why she had to be replaced in the first place.Okay. She actually had to be replaced due to medical reasons...
She didn't target anyone..... Presumably why she had to be replaced in the first place.Okay. She actually had to be replaced due to medical reasons...
As I've said before, nobody wants to engage with me and it has nothing to do with the frequency I post at.
As I've said before, nobody wants to engage with me and it has nothing to do with the frequency I post at.
And I'm back, having slept and done school all day. RL is the real reason here.
tn5421, your reason for acting scummy was so people would attack you? How would you differentiate between town thinking you were scum and scum looking for an easy kill?
@nerjin: is there a reason you're giving me such intentionally misleading advice?Well, it wouldn't be a wall if you posted a couple two/three sentence posts together. The way you post is three or four extremely short posts at once.
Say I consolidate everything I've said into one or two posts. The rest of the game says "lol wall" and doesn't read. What a surprise.
I'm very much a stream of consciousness player, I simply wouldn't be able to play any other way, especially since I'm doing a majority of my posting from mobile.
@nerjin: is there a reason you're giving me such intentionally misleading advice?Well, it wouldn't be a wall if you posted a couple two/three sentence posts together. The way you post is three or four extremely short posts at once.
Say I consolidate everything I've said into one or two posts. The rest of the game says "lol wall" and doesn't read. What a surprise.
I'm very much a stream of consciousness player, I simply wouldn't be able to play any other way, especially since I'm doing a majority of my posting from mobile.
And Fourmaskwolf, you seem to be lurking. Why?
You said it was misleading advice, and so I was trying to point out something. No one would say it was a wall if you posted together. And also, I've been posting from mobile this whole game...@nerjin: is there a reason you're giving me such intentionally misleading advice?Well, it wouldn't be a wall if you posted a couple two/three sentence posts together. The way you post is three or four extremely short posts at once.
Say I consolidate everything I've said into one or two posts. The rest of the game says "lol wall" and doesn't read. What a surprise.
I'm very much a stream of consciousness player, I simply wouldn't be able to play any other way, especially since I'm doing a majority of my posting from mobile.
And Fourmaskwolf, you seem to be lurking. Why?
As I told you, I've done a large portion of my posting from mobile.
Either you want me to actively lurk or you want me to post. Pick one.
Tiruin, how long would the game have to go without kills for you to end it?
Tiruin, I asked before but I don't think we got an answer, how long can the scum go without lynching someone?Eep, I thought I answered it earlier (considering the benefits of our net here...err.)
Nobody wants to really engage anymore anyway.I'm just not posting because I don't have much to say. I have my suspicions, but the obviously correct choice is to just no-lynch.
The scum wants to hide behind inactivity and the town doesn't want to post because they're afraid of looking scummy.
I've been blocking your friend Worldmaster or w/e his name is.Okay, that makes sense.
He would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
Oh for the love of...Care to share? You can't be penalized for giving us your thoughts and it may win the game for us.
vote end game in draw
Sorry, but bejesus this is so pointless.
I know who the scum is with 99.9% certainty, but I can't take the risk on the .1% this late in the game.
Right, I'm an IC.Oh for the love of...Care to share? You can't be penalized for giving us your thoughts and it may win the game for us.
vote end game in draw
Sorry, but bejesus this is so pointless.
I know who the scum is with 99.9% certainty, but I can't take the risk on the .1% this late in the game.
We're here to learn how to play the game, and we won't get the most information by ending this in a draw.
Oppose draw
I know who the scum is with 99.9% certainty, but I can't take the risk on the .1% this late in the game.Hey, just tell us your thoughts. Plus, is drawing really that much better then losing?
Oh, ninja'd.Happens to everyone.
[...]and there is only a 50% chance there even is a jailkeeper.*bloop*!
Yeah, ending in a draw seems best, but I want to end it better then that... *shrugs* I guess a loss is better then a draw to me.
tn5421, you seem the scummiest out of all of us. Worldmaster hasn't done much to seem scummy, and Fourmaskwolf would have attacked someone by now. Whereas you, well you did that whole descent into madness thing, and there is only a 50% chance there even is a jailkeeper.
It tell me that neither you or world are at all familiar with my meta.How could we be familiar with it? This is our (or at least my) first game of mafia with you.
Are we supposed to just take your word that you're jailor?</rhetorical questions> You're just as easily scum not killing any one.
Why should we not put stock into the scum tells?
Let me add onto Cptn's question in the way I think she meant it: "If you're town, why would you want to set a trap for your teammates?"
I don't see how appearing as scum would "catch scum" any more than suspicious town members.
Mafia is a game of interaction. Your refusal to have any legitimate discussion with me hurts the game.Your refusal to calm down and stop insulting us or even try to have a debate is what paints you as scum. You refuse to to believe that there is any possibility of your being wrong either.
You completely and utterly refuse to believe that there is any possibility of you being wrong. This attitude has no place in a game of mafia, and certainly makes me feel better about what I'm going to do, which would be permaban worthy in just about any other circumstance.
How have I thrown the game? Voting for someone I'm sure is scum isn't throwing the game - it's playing it.
I'll withdraw my vote for a no-lynch if you or 4mask can convince me that a no-lynch is better. (in 4p mylo, 1scum/3town)
You're threatening to rage quit if we don't immediately switch our votes to align with yours? ::)
It's "suboptimal" because if we lynch you, then we win right?
Insulting us won't convince anyone of the contrary.
PPE: When was the last time you answered any question? Whether or not you thought it was to paint you as scum.
We don't need to do that - you're doing it well enough on your own.
He would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.
Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
Cptn: I haven't been posting because I haven't felt that there's anything to post about. The mafia hasn't killed anyone in a few days, supposedly because I'm being blocked, and there otherwise hasn't been much activity.
I've also become a bit disinterested in the game since there's nothing happening.
Another thing to think about: tn5 has said that he's blocking me, right? Well, if he is mafia, what's stopping him from choosing not to kill anyone and then he can safely say that he's jailor, a role that isn't currently in the game. No one can dispute him, everyone but the accused thinks he's actually the jailor and they lynch a townie. The next night, he'll kill someone and win.
Oh, and I would like to report Worldmaster forBustedHe would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.
Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
No, because I'm auto-scum unless I'm the one that dies. "Fakeclaiming" as you stated would not be my best available option as scum. I would have simply claimed cop with a guilty on 4wolf to play into the World/Cptn friendship thing going on.
You don't have to believe me, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that you're throwing away your last and probably only PR, as well as auto-losing the game, by lynching me.
"Fakeclaiming" as you statedI didn't. It was implied, but I didn't state it. I don't get why you need the quotation marks. </nitpicking>
Oh, and I would like to report Worldmaster forCop was dead already, that's why you chose jailkeeper.No, because I'm auto-scum unless I'm the one that dies. "Fakeclaiming" as you stated would not be my best available option as scum. I would have simply claimed cop with a guilty on 4wolf to play into the World/Cptn friendship thing going on.He would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
You don't have to believe me, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that you're throwing away your last and probably only PR, as well as auto-losing the game, by lynching me.
Right so...I've gotten a nice PM from JimNice fakeclaim, scum. Tiruin.
Oh, and I would like to report Worldmaster forBustedHe would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.
Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
No, because I'm auto-scum unless I'm the one that dies. "Fakeclaiming" as you stated would not be my best available option as scum. I would have simply claimed cop with a guilty on 4wolf to play into the World/Cptn friendship thing going on.
You don't have to believe me, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that you're throwing away your last and probably only PR, as well as auto-losing the game, by lynching me.
Cop died already.
No need to drag this on longer than it need to be.
Let's win this thing.
Shorten!
...What do you want me to see? Your point flew over my head, if there was one to begin with. Here, I'll address each of the bolded segments.
"How could we be familiar with [your meta game]"
I don't see how this is scummy, it's me honestly telling you that I don't know what your meta is.[1]
"just take your word [that you're jailor]"
You can't give much proof beyond saying that you've been jailing me, which as 4mask and myself have said before, could just be a ploy.[2]
"in the way I think she meant it: "If you're town[...]"
How's this scummy? I was trying to help clarify what I thought was what she meant.[3]
"what paints you as scum. You refuse to to believe that there is any possibility of your being wrong either."
I admit that this possibly could have been worded better, but you haven't been doing a good job of appearing as town.[4]
"convince me that a no-lynch is better."
What's wrong with this? If I'm thinking that you should be lynched but you want a no-lynch, why shouldn't you try to convince me that your point of view is better?[5]
"immediately"
This was a hyperbole. I suppose I should have put </exaggeration> right after it, no?
PPE(x2)
As far as not the best possibility goes, claiming cop would be the worst. Krevsin was the cop, and he's dead. As 4mask said.[6]
"I haven't felt that there's anything to post about." & "I've also become a bit disinterested"
When you say reasoning, I assume you mean reasoning for not posting? Even so, I don't see how this is pushing any suspicion from me to you.[7]
<nitpicking>"Fakeclaiming" as you statedI didn't. It was implied, but I didn't state it. I don't get why you need the quotation marks. </nitpicking>
Don't need to waste time updating me; I did read most of the thread. And hopefully we get another replacement.You sure you didn't read the thread?
EVERYONE!!!!! THE DAY IS OVER!!!!! SHUSH!!!!!Don't need to waste time updating me; I did read most of the thread. And hopefully we get another replacement.You sure you didn't read the thread?
Did you, by chance, fail elementary school reading comprehension?Insulting the IC, or any for that matter, is not a good way to convince us that you're actually town.
My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.Wait, th5421, you were in the game when the cop died...
I am not ending this yet. I'll post the final post in a day from now.
Yes, there was a shortening. I'd like you all to keep on talking.
Because I'm rushing to school and the best time I can deliver the official day end is approx 8 hours from now, due to uni reasons.
Did you, by chance, fail elementary school reading comprehension?Insulting the IC, or any for that matter, is not a good way to convince us that you're actually town.
Relevant trope. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RefugeInAudacity)
Now then, let's go over your counterpoints.
1: I have read your "dossier" thing. It gave me no information on whatever your meta is. Also, how would claiming that I do know it reveal me as scum?
2: I stand by what I said. Voting for the most likely scum in MYLO is how to win, right? We can't very well wait for a cop to magically give us the answer when he's dead.
3: *Herself, and again, I stand by what I said. I was clarifying it because I thought it needed clarification.
4: And you show me what posts of mine, recently, have had absolutely no town-motivation behind them?
Your posts don't have much, if any, pro-town motivation behind them. Or can you tell me how insulting us helps you find the scum?
5: Seriously? You're comparing something that can't currently happen with genocide. Since we apparently aren't allowed to kill anybody without a cop's guilty read, are we supposed to end the game in a draw or just sit here?
6: You can't be bothered to read the game that you're actively participating in? How was I supposed to know that you don't care enough about the game to be an adequate player?
7: Have I not put accusations on you before? And besides, you seem to be slipping under the pressure of that one vote, now accompanied by two others.
tn, please stop blaming others and retreating.this
Please don't act victimized.
I am not ending this yet. I'll post the final post in a day from now.
Yes, there was a shortening. I'd like you all to keep on talking.
Because I'm rushing to school and the best time I can deliver the official day end is approx 8 hours from now, due to uni reasons.
Could you answer this then?My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.Wait, th5421, you were in the game when the cop died...
Why are you acting like you didn't know he died?
6: You do realize I didn't read the thread when I replaced in right?You are using this as an excuse to not know the cop died, but you had already switched in. In fact, you were one of the ones who voted to lynch the cop.
My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.Krevsin was the cop, and this was two posts after you voted to lynch him.
Clearly we are waiting on Silthuri to reverse his 'oppose shorten' vote to end the day.
Don't need to waste time updating me; I did read most of the thread. And hopefully we get another replacement.
No, because I'm auto-scum unless I'm the one that dies. "Fakeclaiming" as you stated would not be my best available option as scum. I would have simply claimed cop with a guilty on 4wolf to play into the World/Cptn friendship thing going on.Yeah, this post, it doesn't make sense. Claiming cop was the worst thing you could have done, not the best. You said you didn't read through the game, but did you really not read it as you were playing it? I mean, you should have at least read the moderator's posts to figure out who had died...
You don't have to believe me, of course, but it doesn't change the fact that you're throwing away your last and probably only PR, as well as auto-losing the game, by lynching me.
Cptn I literally didn't read the rest of your post and don't intend to, since only scum have motivation to use out-of-game elements to deflect criticism.And in case you are going to say you don't have time or something along those lines, here is a helpful quote from you.
My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.Krevsin was the cop, and this was two posts after you voted to lynch him.
Clearly we are waiting on Silthuri to reverse his 'oppose shorten' vote to end the day.
Don't need to waste time updating me; I did read most of the thread. And hopefully we get another replacement.
Could you answer this then?My view of what's going on: McD has a guilty on our homeboy Krevsin.Wait, th5421, you were in the game when the cop died...
Why are you acting like you didn't know he died?
Because you have been playing as if you were the only power role, when everyone, including you, should know we had a cop.
I'll go quote, because otherwise you will ignore my message, even though I'm on a phone...6: You do realize I didn't read the thread when I replaced in right?You are using this as an excuse to not know the cop died, but you had already switched in. In fact, you were one of the ones who voted to lynch the cop.
Ignoring the fact that when you switched in you said you read the game, you still should know the cop died.
Cptn I literally didn't read the rest of your post and don't intend to, since only scum have motivation to use out-of-game elements to deflect criticism.And in case you are going to say you don't have time or something along those lines, here is a helpful quote from you.
(Sorry for the multiposting, but it's a bit difficult to put in so many quotes on a phone... And I would like some answers to these questions.)
If you think I'm scummy then force my lynch.
And then cry in postgame because you're wrong.
Because I'm completely apathetic toward the result of this game now.
Since you can't even show the basic level of respect to quote what you're talking about, I won't respond.Talking of town motivation, where is it here? You show no town motivation in a lot of your posts. Can you show us some of your posts that have "town motivation" begin them? Or at least explain what you mean by town motivation?
Please look at reply #510 and tell me where there is town motivation.
Since you can't even show the basic level of respect to quote what you're talking about, I won't respond.This wouldn't be a town response, would it? No.
Please look at reply #510 and tell me where there is town motivation.Please explain what you mean by town motivation. Also, please explain what he should have done if he had "town motivation". I actually want to know what you mean here.
How am I responsible for Krevsin being unable to post his result due to timezone and meatspace stuff?
Or is his request for a replacement just another think you couldn't be bothered to read?
Please look at reply #510 and tell me where there is town motivation.Please explain what you mean by town motivation. Also, please explain what he should have done if he had "town motivation". I actually want to know what you mean here.
And all of the reason's you have given to think of Worldmaster as scummy is that his posts have little of this "town motivation", but I think he is acting more townie then you are...
Also I went and read a mafiascum game of yours. You got accused of being scum, so then you OMGUSed the guy who attacked you, then refused to talk about it and attacked him without evidence every time he made a post.
I really learned nothing about your meta. Why are you so obsessed with us reading those?
Normally when a cop is dead everyone and their grandmother knows about who he investigated, but it seems this initiative is being blocked somehow *cough*worldmaster*cough*You are implying that, somehow, I have been blocking Krevsin's ability to post his cop reads on people.
It is relevant because you accused me of affecting something I am very obviously unable to affect. This, in my eyes, was just a feeble attempt to try to draw any amount of suspicion off of you and to try and put it on me. You also seem to be trying very hard to avoid answering the majority of questions thrown your way. This is a very bad way to play town, IMO, if you are one.How am I responsible for Krevsin being unable to post his result due to timezone and meatspace stuff?
Or is his request for a replacement just another think you couldn't be bothered to read?
How is any of this information relevant?
Quote what you're talking about or don't post.
I read apple mafia and sorbet mafia. The apple you were a pretty bad scum, and the sorbet is the one I'm talking about there.Please look at reply #510 and tell me where there is town motivation.Please explain what you mean by town motivation. Also, please explain what he should have done if he had "town motivation". I actually want to know what you mean here.
And all of the reason's you have given to think of Worldmaster as scummy is that his posts have little of this "town motivation", but I think he is acting more townie then you are...
Also I went and read a mafiascum game of yours. You got accused of being scum, so then you OMGUSed the guy who attacked you, then refused to talk about it and attacked him without evidence every time he made a post.
I really learned nothing about your meta. Why are you so obsessed with us reading those?
Tell me what game you're talking about please.
tn5421, why do you expect us to read all your games to learn your meta, when you don't even readthe whole game you are inany of the games you switch into?
Now about the cop stuff, Krevsin had to be replaced. There was no one who was playing as the cop, and so no one could post his results. tn5421, could you explain how this is Worldmaster's fault?
Please look at reply #510 and tell me where there is town motivation.Please explain what you mean by town motivation. Also, please explain what he should have done if he had "town motivation".
Or, we could just end the game now...Aye, I would've during the weekends but am currently disabled due to sickness. Sorry about that.
Tiruin, would you like to finish it?
You could just declare the day over now and write it up when you're feeling better, if that's preferable.Good idea.
In any case, I hope you get well soon. :c
Pseudonym: AlleeCat
Profession: Field Reporter
The Printing Press of Xlixia has always been the source of wisdom, news and opinions for the people to ponder about. You are employed as a general writer and field reporter, having a 'thing' with the masses and social situations. You have applied to this post due to past experiences, rather unstated in the resume, as the streetlife and harsh times have tempered your spirit. You are a woman of character and potential--having been learned in the hard knocks of life, yet enlightened by the thought of hope and determination. There is much ahead in your life, and several times have you thought about that.
There only lies determination, wisdom and a will to persevere. Your life is what you make of it, and in these troubled times, you must stand firm. You have a choice--that is something that will never be taken from you. Your tongue is your sword and your mind is your shield.
You are town.
Wincondition: You win when all of the mafia are eliminated.
You wake up and check the closet for your coat--another day. Your coat is warm and fuzzy, having the trimmings of fox fur in the neckline. A jingling rouses you to full wakefulness.
Your hand slips into your right pocket, lower jacket. There is a set of keys there.
The feel of metal renews your purpose and jogs your memory.
You are town. Each night, you can guard another player to prevent them from acting or being acted upon.
/me cackles diaboliclyI really should have read over the thread, shouldn't I? I probably should have. I might actually have found you.
We can talk now, right?yes
Son of a bitch...You could've also talked more, than in brevity.
I should have listened to that niggling doubt in the back of my mind...
Never rest on possibilities. There should be certainty./me cackles diaboliclyI really should have read over the thread, shouldn't I? I probably should have. I might actually have found you.
On the other hand, maybe not, I'm not that great at scumhunting.
Good game, all.
Yeah, it would have been nice if you (The IC) actually talked...Son of a bitch...You could've also talked more, than in brevity.
I should have listened to that niggling doubt in the back of my mind...
Yeah, this proved you as scum to me. You should have said us...He would still have to convince you all that he's jailor, and if he did kill someone during the night after claiming that he was jailor he would have to explain away his lack of diligence as he let the scum kill town. If people still believed him in the slightest, that is.Well, I mean if he had done it before. He said he was blocking you, it would have been easy to kill me/fourmaskwolf and blame it on the other. The longer he waits, the less likely fourmaskwolf and I are to be scum.
PPE: Ah, that's a good catch. However I could try to explain it away as, since he's trying to convince you all to lynch me, he doesn't need to convince me. Just you guys. Thus, you all.Ah, but the thing is, he would have been trying to lynch me or fourmask. Not you...
Y'know you can edit posts now, Kal. ;3(I know, just habit. I did actually edit in the bold text...)
There's no cut-off for changing your vote besides day end.There actually is: Your decisions, and how far you'd choose to consider others' words. :P
Mm, fair enough. I should actually read the full quote instead of assuming things.
Yeah, if you pointed that out and pushed it you could have won.
There's no cut-off for changing your vote besides day end.
You could just declare the day over now and write it up when you're feeling better, if that's preferable.Good idea.
In any case, I hope you get well soon. :c
So day end was around here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=142461.msg5703981#msg5703981) due to 4 people shortening and one opposing the shorten, equaling 3 shorten requests, thereby ending the day.
I am not ending this yet.
Yeah...that's because I couldn't end it at that time due to RL constraints. >.>I am not ending this yet.
Ah, okay.It was learning time.
So past that point what we were doing didn't matter.
Anyone have advice for me, other than not bandwagoning?So I'll assume that my play was perfect apart from that?
Well another loss on my record that gives me... One win in all of my mafia games. How delightful...Win or lose doesn't matter in a BM. What matters is what you learn from it--that doesn't mean that you should throw the game away in any situation just because its a BM though. :P
Well another loss on my record that gives me... One win in all of my mafia games. How delightful...I thought I had the worst record. Apparently not!
This game isn't very kind to my mental health.Yeah mafia is intense, but it's good training in keeping a cool head under pressure.