Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 23, 2015, 01:01:22 pm
"Gentlemen! There is that which is due to the Dead, due to your Fellows in Life, and due to the Unborn. That which is due to the Dead in memory, due to the Living in work, and due to the Unborn in art. Do well in all three." -anonymous writing as Capt. Ringo McClellan.
Post by: Dutchling on February 23, 2015, 08:37:17 pm
‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’ - Dutchling
Post by: TheDarkStar on February 23, 2015, 08:38:47 pm
-TheDarkStar
Post by: SomeStupidGuy on February 23, 2015, 08:50:55 pm
Post by: Itnetlolor on February 23, 2015, 09:15:31 pm
"We've been through Hell; and they would never tread Hell, though they have no qualms about putting others though Hell; let's give them Hell." --Itnetlolor
Hell seems to come up alot.
(That in itself is OOC-worthy)
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 23, 2015, 09:55:01 pm
Just to be clear, I’m not a professional ‘quote maker’. I’m just an atheist teenager who greatly values his intelligence and scientific fact over any silly fiction book written 3,500 years ago. This being said, I am open to any and all criticism.Glad you're open to criticism Dutchling, here's three.
‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’ - Dutchling
1. That you say "fiction" fine, that's fair as you believe it to be less than fact. To say "silly" however, is where I draw the line. Age doesn't make it any less valuable than any other philosophical text. Moreover, if you're talking about the Judeo-Christian bible, keep in mind that it is a compilation, not written all at once.
2. Nobody asked for your backstory, Dutchling. :p I wouldn't have been offended by your quote. It's an exceedingly vain platitude but generally inoffensive. Your attempts to explain why it shouldn't be offensive are, if anything, what made it offensive. ( Or else, why would you have made such pains to bring it up. ;p )
3. That you place specific focus on your intellect ( especially above scientific and philosophical inquiry) is egocentric and detracts from any arguments for your worldview. ( And if you didn't want to forward your worldview, you wouldn't have made such pains to bring it up. ;p )
That is all. Hope it didn't offend. No flaming or I'll lock the thread and I'm too exhausted to take this to PM, so don't try. Also, I know you probably didn't mean intelligence in the way you said it, just try to take more care to not come off as condescending, m'k mate? There's too many atheistic blowhards in the world as is. ;p
Eh, why not, let's make that be my quote: "If you're an atheist, careful to say what you mean instead of coming of as a condescending asshole. There's too many atheistic blowhards in the world as is." - anonymous writing as Capt. Ringo McClellan.
( To preempt the obvious and fair counter, Yes there are too many religious blowhards in the world too! :] This conversation is done, ok? I am not about to have Toady lock down another of my threads over quasi-sociopolitical flamewars. Also, disclaimer: Please don't take me too seriously, except for the ban on touchy irrelevant discussion. )
Here's a better quote: "Take a moment to look around at everything and appreciate it - soon it'll all be gone."
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 23, 2015, 09:58:15 pm
"I've always wanted a place to be self-congratulatory and narcissistic." - SomeStupidGuySee, this guy gets it! :p
"I don't have another quote. Or anything special to say right now." - Capt. Ringo McClellan.
Post by: ggamer on February 23, 2015, 09:58:25 pm
Quote from: blathering by ggamer in a group chat
So I just saw one of those comics made by depressed people where their depression is represented by like a shadowy version of themselves. And the first thing I could think of was what I would do if one of you guys had some weird shadow thing that told you you were worthless and you told me about it. And my first reaction was "nah this is persona rules you gotta accept it or else it'll turn into a big scary monster and try to kill you” Also my second reaction would be to give you a hug and listen to what you got goin on that's making you feel like that.Then maybe we can go to waffle house because shit, who is ever happy on an empty stomach. And then you can realize that just because you've got this voice in your head telling you that you’re shit that doesn't make it true
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 23, 2015, 10:03:45 pm
+1 After the worst of the domestic disputes at my home we usually end up at the Waffle House.Quote from: blathering by ggamer in a group chatSo I just saw one of those comics made by depressed people where their depression is represented by like a shadowy version of themselves. And the first thing I could think of was what I would do if one of you guys had some weird shadow thing that told you you were worthless and you told me about it. And my first reaction was "nah this is persona rules you gotta accept it or else it'll turn into a big scary monster and try to kill you” Also my second reaction would be to give you a hug and listen to what you got goin on that's making you feel like that.Then maybe we can go to waffle house because shit, who is ever happy on an empty stomach. And then you can realize that just because you've got this voice in your head telling you that you’re shit that doesn't make it true
"Waffle House, safe haven for battered souls - confirmed!" aaCRM
Post by: Bauglir on February 23, 2015, 10:14:19 pm
-snip-I think he was trolling. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-this-moment-i-am-euphoric)
Post by: SomeStupidGuy on February 23, 2015, 10:18:02 pm
Those know your meme guys totally stole Dutch's quote! He should sue.-snip-I think he was trolling. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-this-moment-i-am-euphoric)
Post by: Dutchling on February 23, 2015, 10:20:13 pm
Post by: scriver on February 23, 2015, 10:22:37 pm
-scribbabbadabop bapbadabop
Post by: hops on February 23, 2015, 10:25:15 pm
Post by: Tawa on February 23, 2015, 10:26:20 pm
-some lunatic whose name starts with a "T" and ends in a "awarochir"
Post by: hops on February 23, 2015, 10:27:58 pm
Pithy quotes are for fools who haven't parodied Karl Marx enough.After seeing a shell explode in Chemnitz
"Oh dear, that's going to leave quite a Marx." - Chemnitz citizen
Post by: ggamer on February 23, 2015, 10:28:16 pm
I got a living room full of fine dime brizzles
Waiting on the Pizzle, the Dizzle and the Chizzle
G's to the bizzack, now ladies here we gizzo"
-Objective
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 23, 2015, 10:28:24 pm
~4maskwolf
Post by: scriver on February 23, 2015, 10:29:39 pm
Pithy quotes are for fools who haven't parodied Karl Marx enough.
-some lunatic whose name starts with a "T" and ends in a "awarochir"
"I pithy the foo'!"
-Karl Marx
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 23, 2015, 10:46:13 pm
u-u I am embarrased at my lack of meme knowledge. Even so... Please no flaming.-snip-I think he was trolling. (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/in-this-moment-i-am-euphoric)
"Damn, I just got trolled somethin' fierce!" - aaCRM
Post by: Eric Blank on February 24, 2015, 01:45:04 am
Suck my cock's cloaca [insert image of a chicken butt here]
Post by: SirQuiamus on February 24, 2015, 07:46:55 am
-surqimus
Post by: Mechatronic on February 24, 2015, 08:07:37 am
Post by: penguinofhonor on February 24, 2015, 09:19:26 am
Post by: rabidgam3r on February 24, 2015, 11:58:24 am
Post by: timferius on February 24, 2015, 12:09:28 pm
Post by: Parsely on February 24, 2015, 12:25:04 pm
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 24, 2015, 12:29:38 pm
Post by: SirQuiamus on February 24, 2015, 01:48:09 pm
Quote from: surqimus
Quote from: surqimusThe purpose of a quotation is to import another person's thoughts into your text, not to reframe your own thoughts for a certain additional spin.Don't quote me on that; I was merely quoting myself.
Post by: Zrk2 on February 24, 2015, 01:54:22 pm
Post by: hops on February 24, 2015, 02:17:29 pm
Post by: SirQuiamus on February 24, 2015, 02:30:26 pm
- Golgo 13
Post by: ggamer on February 24, 2015, 02:45:59 pm
- Monty Oum
Post by: TD1 on February 24, 2015, 02:52:15 pm
Post by: Helgoland on February 24, 2015, 04:18:05 pm
Post by: MonkeyHead on February 24, 2015, 04:38:17 pm
Post by: TD1 on February 24, 2015, 04:44:19 pm
However, despite his original premise being sound, there is little to no contextual evidence to support his hypothesis. Such an a priori argument strikes me as being less than reasonable. Despite this, the scholar has effectively utilised "probably" and so we may deduce that this is an analytic conclusion. This, whilst carrying little weight, gives his argument the flexibility to withstand critical scorn."
((:P))
Post by: penguinofhonor on February 24, 2015, 04:47:27 pm
Post by: itisnotlogical on February 24, 2015, 04:50:07 pm
Don't worry about death. You already are dead. You just haven't stopped moving yet.
"You don't even know that you are already dead!" - Kenshiro
Post by: ggamer on February 24, 2015, 04:57:11 pm
"To quote the pre-eminent scholar on such things, this thread will "probably end badly" (MonkeyHead.)
However, despite his original premise being sound, there is little to no contextual evidence to support his hypothesis. Such an a priori argument strikes me as being less than reasonable. Despite this, the scholar has effectively utilised "probably" and so we may deduce that this is an analytic conclusion. This, whilst carrying little weight, gives his argument the flexibility to withstand critical scorn."
((:P))
90/100
Excellent analysis of the given quote, though your error in MLA formatting leaves something to be desired.
Post by: IronTomato on February 24, 2015, 05:02:18 pm
Post by: scriver on February 24, 2015, 05:06:17 pm
"If you can't get someone else to quote you, it's probably not a good quote." --penguinofhonor, poet and scholar
Proof of theory: This post.
- Dr. Scriver Scriversson, phd.
Post by: Strife26 on February 24, 2015, 05:11:17 pm
"I've always wanted a place to be self-congratulatory and narcissistic." - SomeStupidGuy-Strife
Post by: TD1 on February 24, 2015, 05:14:13 pm
Post by: scriver on February 24, 2015, 05:20:21 pm
Post by: Helgoland on February 24, 2015, 06:35:28 pm
Post by: SquatchHammer on February 24, 2015, 07:10:17 pm
Life's journey is full of ravines. Build a bridge or stop travelling.
When I read that I thought it was Ravens. Oh well, let's try one for myself.
I live in an age where the way science fights ignorance is by ignorance.
Post by: Eric Blank on February 24, 2015, 07:22:52 pm
Post by: Tack on February 24, 2015, 07:58:37 pm
Quote from: Tack
"It is the truest lamentation of man when we are torn betwixt two paths. The first, the path of honor is the path of the self-righteous and the path of the elitist, whereupon we must post in an offending thread to inform the world in general of it's crippled longevity; and the self-righteousness and elitism of such that post within; the path of Irony whereupon we airily inform our ephemeral acquaintances that they have unwittingly participated in the orchestrator's 'circlejerk' whilst clumsily jerking ourselves with our indignance.
The second, the path of cowardice is the path of the lurker, the intelligent and the inoffensive, is for those who have reasoned that once they post upon this thread, they shall forever be tortuted by its offensive presence on their "new replies" slate. These who unerringly realize that their little rants will undoubtedly have zero effect on the longevity of the thread itself and will only force themselves to be subjected to it's subjectively repulsive existence.
Woe most of all to those who know of the second path and choose to follow the first, for this is the path of the martyr.
Post by: Zanzetkuken The Great on February 24, 2015, 08:09:18 pm
"Find Harry Potter and bring him to Narnia. The Death Star is ready for our war against the Time Lords." - Saruman
"I am Groot" - Hulk
Post by: Zrk2 on February 24, 2015, 10:50:40 pm
"If you can't get someone else to quote you, it's probably not a good quote."
I concur.
"I've always wanted a place to be self-congratulatory and narcissistic." - SomeStupidGuy-Strife
You're probably our best narcissist here. How many people decided to blog their life an actually accrued a following?
Post by: Itnetlolor on February 24, 2015, 10:56:40 pm
-Itnet "quoting a quote as my own quote, and 3rd layer of a pyramid" Lolor"I've always wanted a place to be self-congratulatory and narcissistic." - SomeStupidGuy-Strife
Post by: birdy51 on February 25, 2015, 12:24:40 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 25, 2015, 01:34:04 am
Because A) I thought he was being stupid for real, when actually I was and well... A pretty much covers it as my B point was a subset of A and I have no C point to satisfy my urge for odd prime numbers, so you get this instead.Quote"It is the truest lamentation of man when we are torn betwixt two paths. The first, the path of honor is the path of the self-righteous and the path of the elitist, whereupon we must post in an offending thread to inform the world in general of it's crippled longevity; and the self-righteousness and elitism of such that post within; the path of Irony whereupon we airily inform our ephemeral acquaintances that they have unwittingly participated in the orchestrator's 'circlejerk' whilst clumsily jerking ourselves with our indignance.
The second, the path of cowardice is the path of the lurker, the intelligent and the inoffensive, is for those who have reasoned that once they post upon this thread, they shall forever be tortuted by its offensive presence on their "new replies" slate. These who unerringly realize that their little rants will undoubtedly have zero effect on the longevity of the thread itself and will only force themselves to be subjected to it's subjectively repulsive existence.
Woe most of all to those who know of the second path and choose to follow the first, for this is the path of the martyr.
Also Jesus Hell, McClellan, you can't just punch someone in a religious argument and then do the "YOU CAN'T PUNCH BACK THIS ISN'T A RELIGIOUS ARGUMENT NUR NUR" biz.
It is all levels of uncool.
Let the kid have his quote and his of burgeoning god complex- who are you to stop him from quoting in the quote thread.
Post by: Tack on February 25, 2015, 01:40:59 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 25, 2015, 07:30:26 am
It is very difficult to stop at A, isn't it?Yes, yes it is.
Post by: TD1 on February 25, 2015, 11:38:43 am
'Better to satisfy a pig than to dissatisfy a man. In short: Sometimes you have to take one for the team, even if it means fucking livestock.'
...
Bentham and Mill are turning in their graves.
Maximum happiness, indeed :P
Post by: SquatchHammer on February 25, 2015, 03:37:10 pm
Post by: Orange Wizard on February 25, 2015, 03:41:04 pm
Post by: Eric Blank on February 25, 2015, 03:43:57 pm
Post by: 4maskwolf on February 25, 2015, 11:00:33 pm
~4maskwolf, playing dwarf fortress
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 26, 2015, 08:55:25 am
"If I ever get quoted from another person is that I am a horrible man in history or a great man in history."So far, neither.
Post by: SquatchHammer on February 26, 2015, 01:05:24 pm
"If I ever get quoted from another person is that I am a horrible man in history or a great man in history."So far, neither.
I figured if I ever get quoted, I would want it in the most esoteric way to confuse most amount of people.
Post by: Zanzetkuken The Great on February 26, 2015, 08:22:33 pm
Post by: SquatchHammer on February 26, 2015, 08:42:11 pm
Post by: Powder Miner on February 26, 2015, 08:50:42 pm
"pithy adjective \ˈpi-thē\
1. (of language or style) concise and forcefully expressive.
2. (of a fruit or plant) containing much pith."
-Merriam-Webster
Post by: hops on February 27, 2015, 12:03:28 am
Post by: Remuthra on February 27, 2015, 12:10:01 am
Post by: penguinofhonor on February 27, 2015, 01:14:44 am
Post by: Zrk2 on February 27, 2015, 02:39:01 am
"An arbitrary object has a certain usefulness value, expressed as x. Fire has a usefulness value expressed as y. Fire has several important uses; thus, the value of y must be positive. Hence, y+x>x. Conclusion: Setting an object on fire makes it more effective." -Remuthra
Hmm, yes. I concur!
Post by: hops on February 27, 2015, 03:24:08 am
Post by: Eric Blank on February 27, 2015, 03:28:38 am
Post by: Tack on February 27, 2015, 04:20:20 am
"I'm disappointed that nobody caught my pithy pun.""I'm disappointed that nobody caught my subtle admonishment (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=148747.msg6060769#msg6060769).
Post by: Orange Wizard on February 27, 2015, 04:42:39 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 27, 2015, 08:37:11 am
"Thusfar success.""If I ever get quoted from another person is that I am a horrible man in history or a great man in history."So far, neither.
I figured if I ever get quoted, I would want it in the most esoteric way to confuse most amount of people.
"This thread is nonsensical bollocks." - Me, after wading through all the pith."I fear I have spawned a monster." - myself.
"100% of participants in a recent study decided to dodge the hunks of wood thrown at them rather than catch them, regardless of the pithiness of the wood in question." - throwing things at people is fun, especially when you can justify it with "its for science""Everything from the upmost atrocity to the most miniscule of inanity can be justified as being 'for science'. After all, what is science but doing a thing that noone thought was a good idea then repeating it until everyone is too tired to reject your reason of why the thing you were doing is done the way it is. Kind of like tradition, but under the guise of being new, rational, and the end-all path to knowledge, enlightenment and happiness. Tell me, what scientist is happy except the one who is being paid exorbitant sums of green slips of cloth paper by another man to do the science he is too smart and sane to do himself, but needs the answer to trick others into giving him their green slips of cloth paper instead of buying food." -Capt. Ringo McClellan
"I might well flunk out of college due to this thread." -Capt. Ringo McClellan
Post by: Darvi on February 27, 2015, 08:42:45 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 27, 2015, 08:44:53 am
"This is a ☼☼Quote☼☼, all craftsmanship is of the highest quality. It is made of bullshit and adorned with rings of loquaciousness. It menaces with spikes of recursion. On the bullshit is an engraving of McClellan and forumites in jaded ego. The McClellan is speaking, the forumites are disinterested. It refers to the establishment of the 'Pithy Quotes Thread' of 'Bay 12' in 2015.""Thusfar success.""If I ever get quoted from another person is that I am a horrible man in history or a great man in history."So far, neither.
I figured if I ever get quoted, I would want it in the most esoteric way to confuse most amount of people."This thread is nonsensical bollocks." - Me, after wading through all the pith."I fear I have spawned a monster." - myself."100% of participants in a recent study decided to dodge the hunks of wood thrown at them rather than catch them, regardless of the pithiness of the wood in question." - throwing things at people is fun, especially when you can justify it with "its for science""Everything from the upmost atrocity to the most miniscule of inanity can be justified as being 'for science'. After all, what is science but doing a thing that noone thought was a good idea then repeating it until everyone is too tired to reject your reason of why the thing you were doing is done the way it is. Kind of like tradition, but under the guise of being new, rational, and the end-all path to knowledge, enlightenment and happiness. Tell me, what scientist is happy except the one who is being paid exorbitant sums of green slips of cloth paper by another man to do the science he is too smart and sane to do himself, but needs the answer to trick others into giving him their green slips of cloth paper instead of buying food." -Capt. Ringo McClellan
"I might well flunk out of college due to this thread." -Capt. Ringo McClellan
I gotta say, this thread is excellent for separating the self-congratulating narcissists from everybody else."This is a ☼☼Quote☼☼, all craftsmanship is of the highest quality. It is made of bullshit and adorned with rings of loquaciousness. It menaces with spikes of recursion. On the bullshit is an engraving of McClellan and forumites in jaded ego. The McClellan is speaking, the forumites are disinterested. It refers to the establishment of the 'Pithy Quotes Thread' of 'Bay 12' in 2015."
Post by: G-Flex on February 27, 2015, 09:03:24 am
The madman jumped into their midst and pierced them with his eyes. "Whither is God?" he cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him -- you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.
"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."
Here the madman fell silent and looked again at his listeners; and they, too, were silent and stared at him in astonishment. At last he threw his lantern on the ground, and it broke into pieces and went out. "I have come too early," he said then; "my time is not yet. This tremendous event is still on its way, still wandering; it has not yet reached the ears of men. Lightning and thunder require time; the light of the stars requires time; deeds, though done, still require time to be seen and heard. This deed is still more distant from them than most distant stars -- and yet they have done it themselves.
It has been related further that on the same day the madman forced his way into several churches and there struck up his requiem aeternam deo. Led out and called to account, he is said always to have replied nothing but: "What after all are these churches now if they are not the tombs and sepulchers of God?"
- G-Flex
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 27, 2015, 09:21:53 am
EDIT: Though he's purported to still keep up correspondence with some, and I believe he has set signs in place, hidden in nature as plain things, that point to some evidence or notion of himself. Perhaps to point the way for those who wish to find him, perhaps as warning signs, perhaps just as a signature on a work... that is arguably in progress, but may well be completed.
Post by: scrdest on February 27, 2015, 09:39:30 am
Nietzsche? It feels like it's Nietzsche, or at least a similar school of thought. I've pondered such before, but cannot conclude the means by which we would even do such a deed. More aptly, though still arrogant, I would say we've banished God. Though some call for him to return, would he do so? I don't know. Perhaps. Perhaps not. At least, it seems, it hasn't happened yet.It was a poetic metaphor entirely, Nietzsche loved his snappy one-liners.
EDIT: Though he's purported to still keep up correspondence with some, and I believe he has set signs in place, hidden in nature as plain things, that point to some evidence or notion of himself. Perhaps to point the way for those who wish to find him, perhaps as warning signs, perhaps just as a signature on a work... that is arguably in progress, but may well be completed.
The entire point was that the traditionally understood God as the source of Morality and the thought of the point of living being was to go to Heaven after you die was, as an idea, inadequate. At the time of his writing, the intellectual world at large had a massive crisis of values; Nietzsche's point was that there isn't a point to life, indeed - but so what? There isn't a rule you cannot make one for yourself.
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 27, 2015, 10:14:39 am
Also, it's a really long reply that isn't a quote, even an original quote, in the sense that quote means a witty snippet or aphorism.
( I'm joking, of course, there's way more to it than that... and even if Nietzsche veiled the point and may not have understood it himself... I think Nietzche was sort-of kind-of right? I mean, as beings that are ostensibly given either true free will or the illusion of it, we should exercise our right to decision to make our own way in this world. There are morals though, that it is far better to abide by than shirk, but most people follow at least one of these so how much this conversation means anything may well be moot. In that case, it's not really life that has no point, it's intellectualism. :p )Post by: Cthulhu on February 27, 2015, 10:16:13 am
The pithiest quote of all, though, is "this."
Post by: Urist Arrhenius on February 27, 2015, 12:02:27 pm
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 27, 2015, 01:31:51 pm
You guys know pithy is an actual adjective that means something right? A lot of these quotes aren't pithy at all.Yeah... sorry about that. It's just all gone downhill since I posted the thread. (Not that the thread started that great either. ) It was inevitable, I suppose. I should've come down harder on the rules and reiterated that we were only supposed to make quotes not quote existing quotes, but it's far too late now.
The pithiest quote of all, though, is "this."
Post by: Zanzetkuken The Great on February 27, 2015, 01:41:37 pm
"It is better to believe and be wrong than to not believe at all. For if you believe and are wrong, you have lost little, but if you do not and are wrong, then you have cost yourself a great deal."
Post by: Darvi on February 27, 2015, 01:42:50 pm
Post by: Itnetlolor on February 27, 2015, 01:43:09 pm
Post by: TD1 on February 27, 2015, 02:23:06 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
Urghhh
Post by: Urist Arrhenius on February 27, 2015, 02:33:02 pm
I'll take arguments that can be made indiscriminately for nearly any belief system, for 500☼.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager
Urghhh
Post by: Antsan on February 28, 2015, 05:44:42 pm
I gotta say, this thread is excellent for separating the self-congratulating narcissists from everybody else."Nah, I haven't posted here yet."
Wait…
-snip-
Nietzsche? It feels like it's Nietzsche, or at least a similar school of thought. I've pondered such before, but cannot conclude the means by which we would even do such a deed. More aptly, though still arrogant, I would say we've banished God. Though some call for him to return, would he do so? I don't know. Perhaps. Perhaps not. At least, it seems, it hasn't happened yet.It's Nietzsche. I read that passage just yesterday (although in German).
EDIT: Though he's purported to still keep up correspondence with some, and I believe he has set signs in place, hidden in nature as plain things, that point to some evidence or notion of himself. Perhaps to point the way for those who wish to find him, perhaps as warning signs, perhaps just as a signature on a work... that is arguably in progress, but may well be completed.
Considering the topic of God being mentioned, here's on I ran across once:That rests on the unproven assumption that believing is always a boon when it as well could be a bane. Just imagine a God who punished people who believed based on this kind of argument (a God valuing honesty above anything else would mean I definitely shouldn't dishonestly convince myself I believed in something I find utterly unbelievable).
"It is better to believe and be wrong than to not believe at all. For if you believe and are wrong, you have lost little, but if you do not and are wrong, then you have cost yourself a great deal."
Actually, let me put it like this:
"A God valuing honesty above anything else would mean I definitely shouldn't dishonestly convince myself I believed in something I find utterly unbelievable."
Seems much more official this way. :P
Post by: Tack on February 28, 2015, 07:08:33 pm
However, taking the idea that One of those gods might exist, you'd still pick one randomly and worship it to your utmost, again hedging your bets- It's just made the whole argument a lot slimmer (Until there appears a god of atheism).
Personally: "I'd rather donate my money than blow it in a casino."
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on February 28, 2015, 09:13:53 pm
-snip- (Until there appears a god of atheism).According to Futurama, by the year 3000 that will have happened.
-snip-
Post by: Tack on March 01, 2015, 04:38:08 am
Post by: Orange Wizard on March 01, 2015, 05:02:28 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 01, 2015, 04:25:06 pm
Groening, in any case.Aye.
Post by: Criptfeind on March 01, 2015, 06:38:13 pm
Or even better, which god is the real one? Each wants you to believe in them or their pantheon to the exclusivity of all others; therefore by picking ANY you're hedging the odds against eternal damnation.
However, taking the idea that One of those gods might exist, you'd still pick one randomly and worship it to your utmost, again hedging your bets- It's just made the whole argument a lot slimmer
This is why I pretend to worship the god of pretending to worship the god of ect ect ect.
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 01, 2015, 07:12:37 pm
Post by: Eric Blank on March 01, 2015, 09:55:40 pm
You could rename it "Stupid quotes you dreamed up thread"
Post by: SquatchHammer on March 01, 2015, 10:53:51 pm
You cant lock the quote. Where will we post our stupid then?
You could rename it "Stupid quotes you dreamed up thread"
Only the people that use the quotes will decide if it's stupid or deep insight. In the end, sometimes the best quotes come from a storm of thought.
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 01, 2015, 10:55:44 pm
I''m not sure this is a storm of thought as much as monkeys with a typewriter. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem)You cant lock the quote. Where will we post our stupid then?
You could rename it "Stupid quotes you dreamed up thread"
Only the people that use the quotes will decide if it's stupid or deep insight. In the end, sometimes the best quotes come from a storm of thought.
Post by: SquatchHammer on March 01, 2015, 11:01:13 pm
Also, I do have a theory that kinda aligns with quotes. It sort of goes with the right people showing up at the right time in history.
Post by: Zanzetkuken The Great on March 02, 2015, 12:16:32 am
Post by: SquatchHammer on March 02, 2015, 02:19:04 pm
Post by: TD1 on March 02, 2015, 02:32:02 pm
Post by: Itnetlolor on March 07, 2015, 07:19:20 pm
Or abridged: "Who is stronger? The slaver or the slave?" --Itnetlolor
For context, I've seen some shows and movies where the, often bullied, victim ends up doing something suicidally crazy/stupid, and oftentimes, against their will (ordered/dared/blackmailed by said bully/"superior"/"Alpha"), and you never see the bully ever go through the same ordeal; or even just outright Karma Houdinis, and they (the bully) brags as if they're more hardcore (from mob bosses to schoolyard jackasses). Now, if only the victim realized this hidden truth, they could take on said bully in a heartbeat, and their lack of confidence (or enduring good will; or hell, legal action) is the only thing holding them back from killing/returning the favor to said bully.
Post by: bahihs on March 07, 2015, 08:02:52 pm
"All porcupines float. But more importantly, scientists have tried to drown porcupines." -Helen Keller
"Everything is funnier when said by Hellen Keller" -Hellen Keller
Post by: Eric Blank on March 07, 2015, 10:12:07 pm
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 08, 2015, 12:15:50 am
"In many of my observations (and in turn, some experiences), I tend to wonder; who is the stronger being? The one who delivers abuse, and forces someone into (many) a situation against their consent, or the one who endures it all (in lieu of said abuser)?" --ItnetlolorIn essence that's the truth of martyrdom, not to throw oneself at horror for vainglorious or selfish ends, but to endure against the abuser who would persecute you even unto death, for their sake and salvation do you endure. That to pay abuse of oneself back to the abuser is a great thing, to halt those who would be abusers by your perserverence is greater. If that sounds sanctimonious, keep in mind that I'm speaking as the would-be abuser.
Or abridged: "Who is stronger? The slaver or the slave?" --Itnetlolor
For context, I've seen some shows and movies where the, often bullied, victim ends up doing something suicidally crazy/stupid, and oftentimes, against their will (ordered/dared/blackmailed by said bully/"superior"/"Alpha"), and you never see the bully ever go through the same ordeal; or even just outright Karma Houdinis, and they (the bully) brags as if they're more hardcore (from mob bosses to schoolyard jackasses). Now, if only the victim realized this hidden truth, they could take on said bully in a heartbeat, and their lack of confidence (or enduring good will; or hell, legal action) is the only thing holding them back from killing/returning the favor to said bully.
Not pithy, but I tried my best.
Post by: Cryxis, Prince of Doom on March 08, 2015, 01:15:00 pm
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 09, 2015, 09:18:51 am
PtwWtp
Post by: Cryxis, Prince of Doom on March 09, 2015, 09:38:11 am
TpwPtwWtp
Post by: Helgoland on March 09, 2015, 10:26:41 am
Post by: Zrk2 on March 09, 2015, 10:37:47 am
Post by: Cryxis, Prince of Doom on March 09, 2015, 10:45:17 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 10, 2015, 11:26:52 am
¨He who dies with the most toys wins¨ -My dad/Me"That's a terrible philosophy, but an excellent pun." - meSpoiler (click to show/hide)
Aaaand derail commenced."The derail happened long ago."
Post by: TD1 on March 10, 2015, 02:34:21 pm
Post by: hops on March 11, 2015, 04:10:49 am
¨He who dies with the most toys wins¨ -My dad/MeI'm pretty sure that's a common quote. Or well, at least back in the days of yore Gaiaonline said it. Which is strangely appropriate for a community that currently embody commodity fetishism like no other.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cats, despite being the subject of a cuddle, will never fully participate.Yup, cats are still my spirit animal all right.
Meow stop cuddling me human.
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 11, 2015, 04:17:13 am
Post by: Caz on March 11, 2015, 09:35:32 am
"In many of my observations (and in turn, some experiences), I tend to wonder; who is the stronger being? The one who delivers abuse, and forces someone into (many) a situation against their consent, or the one who endures it all (in lieu of said abuser)?" --Itnetlolor
Or abridged: "Who is stronger? The slaver or the slave?" --Itnetlolor
"You can either get broken, or you can be the one doing the breaking."
Post by: Itnetlolor on March 12, 2015, 11:28:06 am
"Why?" -All humans."Why not?" --Everyone Else
Post by: TD1 on March 12, 2015, 06:48:51 pm
"WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE?!?!" --Confused man with voices in his head"Why?" -All humans."Why not?" --Everyone Else
Post by: Itnetlolor on March 19, 2015, 05:47:29 pm
Lazy people like to have fun, and the more fun you have, the better you get at something (regardless if it's boring to someone else), and when you're having the time of your life, whether be it relative (to oneself, or local social circle) or absolute (to everyone else and the big leagues), you're an expert in your field, and you know you rock at what you do.
To enjoy what you do (for a living, or as a hobby), can also make you an 'instant-expert' 'sans-practice'. Remember, lazy people, like myself, hate hard work and dedication. It's a waste of our time, and is no fun at all, and nothing more than a hassle to us; especially the recognition we get for it (I don't mind having fans, it's the fandom that develops that irritates me). We work hard enough to avoid said hassle. Artists don't work, they do art." --Itnetlolor
ADDENDUM:
I basically see that last bit about fandom as how I think Christ would feel about religion based around him as of late. He doesn't mind those that respect him; it's the zealots that bug him the most. For example, I've been to a -con before, and the artists/creators were awesome, but I can feel their pain when they see a total "fanboy" bug them about stuff. I never thought life would imitate art like that. Though it wasn't too far-fetched. It kinda reminded me about how I made more friends in school because my artistic abilities and my aims could net me big bucks as a future career. It made me feel like they respected the artist (money-maker they could sponge off of), but not the person (Me, the artist).
I never thought I'd feel relieved to fail in my ambitions like that. I avoided having tons of annoying non-friends thanks to failure.
"See, there's even a brightside to total darkness." --Itnetlolor, addressing to those that don't like negative/pessimistic people. Mostly blind-optimists that have their contrasts set too high, from being in the light for too long (AKA- Having their heads up their ass, with a wire hanger in the mouth 24/7.).
EDIT:
"What's more painful than not being helped? Being helped by those that don't understand you, or your situation, and also refuse to understand you, or the cause of the issue, to help you out, more efficiently; no matter if what you say to them (that would help/serve as a translator) would make their job easier to accomplish, or their advice easier to understand, and to accept, in general." --Itnetlolor; More times than not, any help I ask for, and aid in the advice-giving by providing a "rosetta-stone" of reference, the "rosetta-stone" is never taken into consideration. For example: Translating my pessimism in a way an optimist would understand. To find a neutral-ground, if you will. Like explaining context to a content-oriented person; especially if they have no idea how context works. It's like asking for an argument, and getting abuse instead. (https://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y)
EDIT EDIT:
Oops. I may need to re-adjust my personal definitions. I've read some rather large quotes that seemed rather normal-scaled to me lately. That seemed short enough IMO. :P
Then again, by my definition, with how elaborate I can get into those, those ARE short. I guess, unless I can complete the thought, those not-so-short quotes would be incomplete, otherwise. Plus, first quote's 199 words.
Post by: Urist Arrhenius on March 19, 2015, 09:28:43 pm
synonyms: succint, terse, concise, compact, short and sweet, brief, condensed, to the point, epigrammatic, crisp, less than 500 words, other words which do not describe above post
Post by: That Wolf on March 20, 2015, 12:20:15 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 20, 2015, 07:27:29 am
pithy: concise or forcefully expressiveAgreed.
synonyms: succint, terse, concise, compact, short and sweet, brief, condensed, to the point, epigrammatic, crisp, less than 500 words, other words which do not describe above post
Sorry Itnetlolor, you lose 7 internet points. You can win these back by needless meme references, confusing syntax, and saying something using less words than would make it grammatically correct.
/me flees to the memeout shelter to hide from the incoming memestorm.
Post by: Helgoland on March 20, 2015, 08:16:08 am
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 20, 2015, 08:40:53 am
Morals are nothing more than a subtle form of force employed by the community against the individual.Except when they're internal aspirations to arete.
Post by: Helgoland on March 20, 2015, 09:22:05 am
Using this argument the other way around, you can argue that autonomous decision-making is a ridiculous ideal to strive for and that societal norms aren't a bad thing.
Post by: CaptainMcClellan on March 20, 2015, 10:23:09 am
Oppression is more or less a construct (probably moreso than morality is), but I'd argue that it's less a societal construct than a point of view. IE, you can't be oppressed without someone to recognize you are oppressed. ( Even if that person isn't you. )
*More or less it's not anyway.