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Anyone living in the great 51st state of America, Britain for all those people who havn't been watching the news... in the last 4 years, westminster has just passed the 42 retention period for 'terrorists'. This is a truely horrible outrage for everyone. Anyone else gonna show their support against this retarded law? It might have a chance of being scrapped though, it only went through with a majority of 9, as its still go to go through the house of lords.
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i resent you calling it the 51st state.
Also, i've never really followed this debate, but i can see why it's hated, it'll never get through the house of lords though, because they'll be all for upholding british values and whatnot.
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Ach, I was only making fun of our suck up attitude to the US. that'll end soon i hope.
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Because animosity between Britain and the US would be great for the world.
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Wait, you guys call your congress The House of Lords?
That is epic, I wish I lived there.
I'm still trying to decide whether to vote for McCain or Obama. A third and much more appealing choice is to not vote at all, or vote for the independent candidate with the funniest name.
[ June 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]
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Originally posted by Cthulhu:
<STRONG> or vote for the independent candidate with the funniest name.[ June 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]</STRONG>
I'm amazed how similar our voting tactics are.
But I'm going to need to read up on this. Hopefully I can get by the cooler names for the parts of their government to get content.
And we already know the 51st state is going to be either Canada or Mexico. America just needs to stop dicking around. ;)
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According to Obama we have like 57 states.
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actually there are only 46 states, there are 4 commonwealths.
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Originally posted by Cthulhu:
<STRONG>Wait, you guys call your congress The House of Lords?</STRONG>
The House of Lords is more comparable to the Senate. The House of Commons is roughly equivalent to your Congress.
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You should fuse them together into The High Council, or The Shadow Council.
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we have shadow ministers, if that counts.
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1) I agree with Bullion, we are not the 51st State. This is an international forum, so there's no need to create relevance by tying what happens here to America.
2) I agree with you. I'm pissed off that Gordon freaking Brown managed to pull enough strings to get that idiotic law passed. Particularly since we;ve never needed to hold anyone for the full 21-day period that it is now. I really hope the House of Lords kills this one. Failing that, there's always the Queen.
(Okay, the Queen thing is a joke. She DOES have the power to veto any law. It's just that she's only allowed to have said power on the condition that she never ever uses it.)
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yeah, well stay in touch with it. It's annoying, cause i used to pride myself of Britain being the upholder of great justice and freedom. But we're worse than most dictatorships now. ID cards are coming in, segregating all the ethnic minorities, 42 days in jail without being told what its for. I have a sneaky suspicion that the government will uses these awesome tools of corruption to frame people they don't like. hold them in jail for 42 days, while you fake the ID cards. seems simple enough.
And, i doubt america has the money to take over mexico, let alone canada :D
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Originally posted by Bullion:
<STRONG>we have shadow ministers, if that counts.</STRONG>
I saw a BBC article in which a tory from the house of lords was called a Shadow Lord.
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Originally posted by Toady One:
<STRONG>I saw a BBC article in which a tory from the house of lords was called a Shadow Lord.</STRONG>
Well then, i've never heard of one of them in british politics, there you go.
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Wow. We have Shadow Lords? We'll take over the world yet!
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Lucky. We don't have anything that cool. Our only real talent is the busting of fills.
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Well, Fillibusting AND Gerrymandering.
Anyway, no matter who wins the election, don't blame me. I'm voting to succeed.
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You think your situation is bad? Then come to Belgium, my friends. And return crying.
We are having a quasi(sp?) civil war between the French and Dutch part. Flanders wants to become independent and take as much territory ( Brussels ) as it can with it. And the French part is stubborn and wants to keep as much of its federal power as possible.
Politics...
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Really? Wow. I wonder what effect that's going to have... or having... on the European Parliament.
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i always thought flanders was a nice guy.
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Laws never really have monumentous effect of any government...and as for the U.S. it controls most of the world! (entire western hemisphere and parts of the eastern) Although its not under direct laws its under heavy 'push' persuation.
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Originally posted by DreaDFanG:
<STRONG>Laws never really have monumentous effect of any government...and as for the U.S. it controls most of the world! (entire western hemisphere and parts of the eastern) Although its not under direct laws its under heavy 'push' persuation.</STRONG>
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Whaaaaaaaa?
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Originally posted by Asheron:
<STRONG>We are having a quasi(sp?) civil war between the French and Dutch part. </STRONG>
Come on now, I think you're overstating those issues.
Do you have separatists terrorists who shoot anyone who disagrees, like the various bunches of armed retards in Basque, Belfast, Corsica? Nah. Much violence between the two groups? Nope. Any recent mass murders, like in former Yugoslavia? Nope.
I'd say there are problems, but the main thing noticeable about them is how few Belgians seem to care, and how little seems to actually happen.
( It kinda reminds me of Austria's privince of Carinthia, where a power-mad racist governor is preventing slovene-speaking Austrians from receiving "Welcome to Cow Village" signs in Slovene (and telling the surpreme court to f* off basically).
Yes, they have a whole bunch of insane, bigoted, undereducated redneck freaks down in Carinthia, freaks who usually vote on the far right ... but then, Austria has that problem with Carinthia, Australia has that problem with Queensland, the USA have Texas and Oklahoma and some other states with a sorta blue-collar redneck bible-basher image; Germany has that problem in former Saxony; and so on.
So until I start hearing of any real problems - like killing, blowing people up, not allowing people to use a language - please allow me not to take Belgium's problem too seriously. :-)
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Hmmm. Blue collar and red neck. All they need is the white hood and the patriotic image is complete.
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Well, I guess I used the wrong term. We don't have a civil war, we have a civil disagreement. As in, half the country wants x, half the country wants y. Which can be quite the problem when you want to have a government that actually works ::)
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Well, I guess I used the wrong term. We don't have a civil war, we have a civil disagreement. As in, half the country wants x, half the country wants y. Which can be quite the problem when you want to have a government that actually works ::)
Welcome to everywhere.
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Well, I guess I used the wrong term. We don't have a civil war, we have a civil disagreement. As in, half the country wants x, half the country wants y. Which can be quite the problem when you want to have a government that actually works ::)
Welcome to everywhere.
I feel a lot better now I know being Belgian does not make me unique. I thought I was, just like everybody else... :)
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Well, I guess I used the wrong term. We don't have a civil war, we have a civil disagreement. As in, half the country wants x, half the country wants y. Which can be quite the problem when you want to have a government that actually works ::)
Welcome to everywhere.
Epic quote is epic.
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Heh, why won't the governments stop this sillyness. They're now planning to move the buying of alcohol age up to 21. Well in off licenses anyway. I still find it ridiculous that your allowed to sign up, get yourself killed in the name of your country, before you can vote/drink/smoke. What would dwarves do if they could only drink at the age of 21? They'd slow to a slugs pace and do nothing! Theres a valuable life lesson to be learned here.
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What, here in the UK?
Well, they are trying to tackle the binge drinking culture. Then again, it's not like it's a total ban. It's legal to drink alcohol in private at any age, just not to buy it or have it in public.
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America's been 21 and up for as long as I can remember.
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Haha, atleast that's ONE point for Belgium.
Minimum drinking age is 16 here, I believe. But they want to raise it to 18. Not sure if they have done it yet though.
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I thought Belgium didn't have a drinking age. I went to Brussels (I'm not even going to try spelling that correctly) when I was eleven and I got offered the wine list. Also, no one gave me any trouble about being in a pub (alright, so I was being accompanied, but that doesn't seem to count here in the US).
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Brussels
You actually spelled it right. Hurrah!
But by the way, that really is common. The bartenders seem to be too drunk to determine if you are above the drinking age or not. IF they cared.
Sometimes, I wonder why Korsakov wasn't Belgian.
Uhmm... what were we talking about again? Ah yes, politics. Bloody old scum, those politicians, aren't they. Pinko's, all of them. *the rants starts to get Monty Python qualities*
And then, I had this cheese biscuit stuck up the bishop's nose! So I try to distract him when...
And now for something completely different, a man with ten fingers.
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Wait, you guys call your congress The House of Lords?<P>That is epic, I wish I lived there.<P>I'm still trying to decide whether to vote for McCain or Obama. A third and much more appealing choice is to not vote at all, or vote for the independent candidate with the funniest name.<p>[ June 13, 2008: Message edited by: Cthulhu ]
There is the House of Commons, and the House of Lords. They're like the House of Representatives and the Senate in the USA Congress. The Commons are elected, like a normal country, but the House of Lords is "appointed" - and they're actual Lords in the feudal sense. Originally, a place in the house of lords was a birthright for the nobility. In the modern day it's so much better, half of them are appointed by the crown on advice from the Prime Minister, and the other half are Bishops of the Church of England. I think a lot of people in England wouldn't mind if the whole thing got blown up.
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Dude, look at the date.
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Hmmm. Blue collar and red neck. All they need is the white hood and the patriotic image is complete.
I don't think people have properly appreciated this comment. It's amazing. Sig worthy, even, but alas, mine is full.
America's been 21 and up for as long as I can remember.
That's not an argument in favour.
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Dude, look at the date.
Yowch, I never expected the troll to go necroing old threads. You'd think he'd get more mileage doing hit-and-runs off active threads.
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Oh, fuck. This is old.
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Dude, look at the date.
Yowch, I never expected the troll to go necroing old threads. You'd think he'd get more mileage doing hit-and-runs off active threads.
They've been doing it for a while.