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Title: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:00:11 am
Congratulations to our very first champion!
Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator
And his manager: _Italics_
Tourney II Will begin on June 14th be ready!


An Introduction

What is this?

A Fight to the death! Dwarf, Human, Elf, and countless other creatures locked in Mortal Kombat!
Arrows Flying! Swords Slashing! Blood and Guts Spread Across the Arena Floor!

To what end?

Countless Riches? No
Honor? Glory? Fame? Perhaps
To be recognized as the strongest, fastest, or cleverest? Most Assuredly
But most importantly, to earn the title:

CHAMPION OF THE ARENA

You'll be the best! Songs will be song about your skills in the ring! Your name will never be forgotten!

At least until the next tournament, of course.

Who came up with this?

It wasn't me, I assure you! In fact, it was our lovely friends at the SomethingAwful forums who deserve the credit.   
One Bard, in particular, deserves high praise indeed!
He is the Founder of the Fight, the Mediator of Discord, the Grand Master himself!

Vox Nihili


We are but feint imitators in comparison

What Format Will the Tournaments Take?

There are many possibilities: Single-Elimination, Double Elimination, Round Robin, etc. It could be Team based, or a Free For All!. The format for any particular tournament will be decided by the Arena Master beforehand.     

How many people can join a tournament?

It Depends on the format and how much interest there is! However, typical sizes are 16, 32, or 64.

How do I join?


It's easy! Usually you'll just have to post a message declaring your interest, and include your Gladiator's name and race!


I don't know much about Dwarf Fortress. What race is best? What Weapons and Armor should I use?

Only the base essentials are provided in the thread. Since this is competitive, its up to you to figure out whats best. Feel free to ask any questions in the thread or on the forums. A good source of information is the Dwarf fortress wiki found at http://dwarffortresswiki.org/ (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/).

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   Hey there! Its me, your (hopefully) next arena master. The last time I believe this particular format has been used was way back in 2011, I could be wrong though. Anyway, I know what you're thinking, "You are just necroing things from the distant past!" Yeah well, there's a lot to be taken from the past, things to enjoy, things to learn -- Get over it. Some changes will likely be made to accommodate the newest version of Dwarf Fortress and I sure wouldn't mind your input! on the system. Here is a link to the last, to my knowledge, use of this tournament: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65911.0 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=65911.0)

I want to gauge interest in this sort of thing, because I am truly interested in it. Without further ado:

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Overview and Rules
These Rules( including the point system ) were originally developed by the esteemed Vox Nihili at the SomethingAwful forums, and were changed throughout the incarnations.

The Arena Master

   The Arena Master runs the tournament. His or Her duties are extensive. They include, but are not limited to, the following: Maintaining and updating these rules, recruitment, running the battles and writing commentary, and settling all disputes that may arise in a just and timely manner. It is essential that the Arena Master remain fair and unbiased. I, Unraveller, shall humbly serve in as the Arena Master for this tournament, and pray that I didn't miss some post that banned these kind of games.

Joining as a Gladiator


   Before the start of a tournament the Arena Master will decide on the tournament format, including whether or not a gladiator's skills and equipment will be known to all or kept secret. The first is called a Open Tournament and the latter is called a Blind tournament. The tournament format will also dictate the number of gladiators who may join, or at least a series of upper limits. For example, in a single elimination tournament typical sizes are 16, 32, 64, etc. In order to join, all you must do is announce your intention to join in this thread, along with your Gladiator's name and race. If its an open tournament, you will need to post your skills and equipment purchases in the thread before the start of the first match, while in a blind tournament you must send them directly to the Arena Master.

   In the event that too many Gladiators wish to spill their blood, the Arena Master may, at his or her discretion: extend the joining period, deny entry outright to the extra combatants, or call for a battle royal to decide who gets the final spot in the tournament. It's first come first serve*, so sign up as early as possible.

*In future tournaments, gladiators who fought in the preceding tournament will have the right-of-way, and a non-random seeding system may be implemented.

About the Tournament

   The subsequent post will lay out the details of the current tournament, including whether or not it will be an open or blind tournament, what system it will follow(Single-Elimination, Round Robin, etc.), whether or not its a team game, etc. If there is something that is not clear, please ask.

The Arena

   The fighting will take place in a variety of different stages as seen below. The two contestants will agree on a stage to be selected. If they cannot come to a mutual agreement one will be randomly selected.

Spoiler: Klassic (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Heat Stroke (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Castletop (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Peaceful Meadows (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Water Hazard (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Vertigo (click to show/hide)


The Version


   The newest version of DF will be used assuming combat and other relevant game mechanics weren't broken. The same version will be used throughout the tournament. The version being used for the current tournament will be listed in the Tournament overview in the next post.

The Races

   The most important decision you'll have to make before the start of the tournament is what race your gladiator will be. Which race you chose will determine what equipment you can use, how much damage you can inflict, grant you special abilities, or even extra limbs.

   Your race will also determine how many points you get to spend on equipment and skills before each round.  This is mainly for balance reasons, but also to represent smaller creatures cleverness.

   The most important distinction between the races, besides the points they receive, is their size. Size effects the amount of damage they will inflict*, and their ability to knock their opponent over. Gladiators that have been knocked over have a nasty tendency to get pulverized(unless they are wearing some nice armor), and is thus a position you'll wish to avoid. Thus, the ability to dodge out of the way is often a crucial skill for smaller players to have. For this reason, races classified as "tiny" get a 10% reduction in the price of dodging skills while races classified as "huge" must pay 20% more.

*smaller creatures can generally match their larger counterparts in slashing and stabbing attacks, but bigger opponents are much better at bashing and punching

   Some of the more fanciful races have different or extra appendages compared to your average humanoid. This may allow them to wield extra weaponry or armor, but it also may mean they can't use certain items. These differences are listed under the special abilities category.

Races may also have special abilities. For instance, many of the animal-like races can bite in unarmed combat.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Points

   Points are the life blood any worthy gladiator. The way you spend them will determine your success in the ring.

   As stated in the previous section, the amount of points you get to spend before the tournament depends on your gladiator's race. If you manage to win a match, you will earn the same amount of points to spend on the next round. You do not have to spend any points to heal yourself.
   
You may spend points on Equipment and Skills, which are summarized below.

Any points left unspent at the end of a round are doubled, for example. Wundle the Crundle has 34 points remaining from the first round. If he reaches the second he would have 68 points in addition to the points he gains from being a Crundle.
   
Skills

   Your gladiator can purchase skills before the start of each round. Skills can be upgraded as many  as 14 times, the first level being Novice and the last being Grand Master.

   The first level of each skill is assigned a base price, and the price of each subsequent level is equal to the base price of the skill multiplied by the level of the skill you are purchasing. For example, if your gladiator was a Level 2("Adequate") fighter and wished to purchase the 4th level, it would cost 3 * 3 + 3 * 4 f=  9 points. 3 is the base cost and does not change, multiplied by the levels to be purchased. Note that the cost is cumulative: you must buy all the preceding levels!

   What each skill does is fairly self explanatory. Please go to the Dwarf Fortress wiki or ask on the forums if you are unfamiliar with any particular skill.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Equipment

   As you've probably surmised, your gladiator will be able to purchase an assortment of equipment, made out of various materials, to wield  in the arena. Equipment can be divided up into two categories: Weapons and Armor.

Note that you cannot make weapons, shields or bucklers, out of leather.

You may sell back equipment before each round for half its original value. You may NOT sell skills back.

   A longsword has a base price of 24; if its made of of steel, which has a "cost multiplier" of 4, the total value will be 96 points.

Materials

   Materials have gotten complicated in Dwarf Fortress of late. In terms of combat, though, materials have 3 primary properties: Weight, Edge, and Stopping Power. [I take no credit for this chart, its taken directly from the SA thread]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Weapons

   Weapons and Shields(including bucklers), are held in your gladiator's hands. Depending on the race, it may take one-hand or 2-hands to wield any particular object, or they may not be able to wield it at all. Please look at the Race table for a summary. Unless you are fighting unarmed, you should try to use all your hands in combat. Once again, if you have any questions about the abilities a weapon or piece of armor, please feel free to ask, but check the wiki first.

Bows come with 35 free arrows and Crossbows with 35 free bolts and are the same material as the ranged weapon.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Armour


   Generally, you can only wear one of any type of armour. Think in terms of body parts, and test your combination out in dwarf fortress to see if it works. If you (or I) notice a problem after the current round is underway, it can't be fixed until the current round is over. For example, you can't wear both leggings and greaves or low boots and high boots at the same time. There are two exceptions though: you may wear a leather cap under a helm, and you may wear a (non-leather) mail shirt under a breast plate. Gloves, Gauntlets and boots come in sets of two. Also note that shields take up a hand-slot, and aren't worn as such. Shields may also be used as weapons and are dependent on the Misc. object skill.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Google Document
All the rules and spreadsheets are available as a Google document. Check it out here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AmCZedymX32wdDBVX3hXMHUzamo5WkRfX2pDQjVQNWc&hl=en&authkey=CKC3xsAO If you find any errors please tell me.

Conclusion
   That *should* cover everything. A summary and overview are covered in the next post. In the future, there will be an additional History section where past tournaments will be recorded, and perhaps a gladiator history as well space permitting. What follows is a history of the rule changes. Right now, it only shows the modifications I made to the SA rules.
   
Rule Changes

From SA 3nd edition
-Removed Werewolf due to were-beasts being randomized in arena after every load
-Added Crundle, Plump Helmet Man, and Sasquatch races
-Added stage select
-Removed superficial attribute modifiers.
-Removed Slade as a material

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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:00:34 am
Settings
Format: Classic single elimination tournament, bracket style.
Open Play: Post the fact that you wish to enter as a mighty gladiator and add your skills and equipment when you get the chance.
Number of Participants: 22 - 16 qualifying for the elimination bracket
Version:  0.40.24
Initial Seeding: Randomly generated numbers by myself, to simulate each gladiator pulling 'em from a box.

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Qualifying Round (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Qualifying Round II (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Tourney Bracket (click to show/hide)

If you prefer, you may view the bracket here. (http://challonge.com/q0ei32xj)

Spoiler: Eliminations (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Quarter Finals (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Semi-Finals (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Finals (click to show/hide)


Spoiler: Fan Art (click to show/hide)


Well then, I hope I'm not missing anything. And I sure hope that this will actually garner some attention. And I REALLY hope that you will all enjoy this. I am as dedicated as I could be to see this through to the end, I hope that you will join me. GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 14, 2015, 02:04:22 pm
Definitely looks fun. I'll join up. Won't be able to send any gladiator information until a bit later tonight after work though.

We'll call my gladiator Varick if you want a name now, though.  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 02:07:13 pm
Excellent! Our first gladiator, welcome Varick. Take as long as you need to get set up and ready. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask.

Oh, and just so you know, race and name will be public, however skills and equipment will not be, at least for the beginning. As I'm not entirely savvy on having others build to counter but I dunno we'll see.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Girlinhat on May 14, 2015, 03:01:58 pm
I do not understand how to play.  Can you give a TL;DR of "how to gladiator"?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 03:07:44 pm
Ah, yes of course, forgive me if the post was unclear. Essentially, you do not play. The managers (being you) purchase equipment and skills for their gladiator with the points derived from their race. Afterwards, when there are sufficient gladiators they will be placed randomly in a single elimination bracket in which they will duke it out with their fellow gladiators in combat.

I shall place each of the characters in the object testing arena, in a stage that they have selected. They will be AI controlled so it comes down to your race as well as your choices in equipment and skills. After the battle I will write out a detailed description of the fight as well as the battle log, perhaps a gif as well.

Does that explain it well enough?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: FearsomeClarinet on May 14, 2015, 03:16:10 pm
How urgent is this? Like, how long do we have to sign up? I would love to spend the weekend crunching numbers for it, and I definitely can't make a character today.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 03:20:10 pm
There should be plenty of time, after all I was thinking of having the minimum number of players at 16. Though that could be brought down if there isn't enough interest. There is certainly enough time to do what you need.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dibuk on May 14, 2015, 03:29:38 pm

UPDATED after the unfair treatment of Minotaurs, Asbjorns goal is to beat everyone and make the Gladiator Game Master pay for the vile treatment of his entire race.

-Asbjorn The Elf-Eater-
Minotaur - 140p

Adequate Hammer 18p
Adequate Shield 12p

Silver Warhammer - 26p
Oak Shield - 45p
Copper high boots - 12,5p
Copper gauntles - 10p
Copper helm - 15p
Points left: 1,5p

Edited.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 03:36:34 pm
Yep, that is as right as rain. However I was planning on keeping the builds out of the open. But while we are on the subject do you think it'd be better to have builds posted publicly here or rather PMed to me. I feel leaving them in the open will allow for more discussion, though there may also be a ton of countering and such. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 14, 2015, 04:01:44 pm
I get the idea that later players would be able to counter earlier ones, but ... no one actually knows who they're going to be up against, and I would think building to counter ANY of 15 players would be very difficult as well.

If it was going to be teams or we knew who we were gonna fight ahead of time it might be more problematic, but since we don't and it's randomly selected honestly I don't see the harm in posting them for this format.

(If you decide to post them, I just PM'd my entrant.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 04:06:12 pm
You know, that is a quite good point. Let them be open for all to see. So that everyone can trash each other. Or at the very least confirm that no one is cheating with the point values and such.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Desolate Domain on May 14, 2015, 04:28:44 pm
I will be playing as:

-Portabelo the Delicious-
Plump Helmet Man - 270 points to spend
[Equipment]
Adamantite Spear - 240 pts
[Skills]
Adequate (2) Spearman - 15 pts
Adequate (2) Dodger - 15 pts
0 pts left

He'll skewer the competition!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 04:33:53 pm
Excellent, I'm pretty sure you're good. I shall add you to the list.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 14, 2015, 04:41:40 pm
Varick the Flighty - Cutebold Kobold

Kobold (290 pts)

[Equip]
Steel Dagger - 64 pts

[Skills]
Expert ( 8 ) Dodger (Tiny) - 144 pts
Skilled (4) Fighting - 30 pts
Skilled (4) Knife - 50 pts

Total: 288 pts, 2 remaining

Edit: And thanks to Unraveller for pointing out me being unable to do basic math in PMs.  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 04:48:23 pm
Heh, heh, you should be good now (I hope). Well I'm glad that there are already three gladiators. I was originally nervous posting this because for some reason I am afraid of what online people whom I'll never know think about me, go figure.

I wonder If we'll be able to do 32 gladiators?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 14, 2015, 04:50:38 pm
Hey, don't feel bad. I'm always afraid of looking like an idiot in front of literally any strangers, so. I know the feeling!

Hopefully there will be interest; it's not like it's super hard to make a gladiator if you want to poke in just for fun, and you did agree to give time for numbers crunching, so I'm sure we'll see more people coming in. I hope so, anyway. I always have fun in seeing what roles people like to take for community style games.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 04:55:11 pm
You hit the nail on the head, I love to see how people react to each other in this sort of setting. I'd love to see some strange and original builds,, and so far, it seems to be going nicely. I hope a Crundle wins, I love those little guys.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 14, 2015, 04:59:10 pm
Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient

Serpent Man (+250)

Expert Biter [8] (-144)
Talented Dodger[6] (-105)

Total : 249 pts
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 05:03:52 pm
Welcome aboard you vile venom filled cretin! A biting skill like that coupled with your serpent venom could prove to be quite the lethal weapon!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 14, 2015, 05:39:55 pm
About that, is it possible to equip two shields ? Would the gladiator still be considered unarmed ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 14, 2015, 05:45:55 pm
I'd like to play:

Mogwai the Devious
Gremlin (360 points)
Acomplished Dodger (10) 220 pts
Proficient Knife User (5) 75 pts
2 Large Bronze Daggers (32 pts each, 64 total)

1 Point Left.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 05:50:02 pm
I will be

-Steapa the Northman-

Human +240

[Skills]
Competent dodger (3) -30
Competent armor wearer (3) -12
Skilled fighter (4) -30
Competent axeman (3) -36

[Weapons]
Steel Greataxe -120

[Armor]
Leather Greaves -9

Total : 237 points 3 remaining

*I hope I did the math right :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Baffler on May 14, 2015, 06:50:22 pm
I'll bite, how's this sound? It seems like most people are putting most of their points into skills and a weapon, so I'll try more of an all-rounder and see how it goes for me. The high point cost is going to hurt later on (if there is a later on) but hopefully the initial boost in protection will let me make up the lower skill down the line.

-Cerol Chickenkicker-
Race: Dwarf + 240

Equipment:
Steel Dagger:      -64
Iron Mail Shirt:    -48
Oak Shield:         -45
Armor Total:       -157

Skills:
Adequate Knifedwarf:  -15
Adequate Dodger:       -15
Adequate Shield User: -12
Novice Armor User:    -9
Skill Total:                -51

Extra Points: +32
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 14, 2015, 07:03:05 pm
Did someone say all-rounder? :D
Yeah, I am not expecting this build to go very far.

Hugh Mann the Dabbler
Race: Human (+240)

Skills:
Adequate in everything (-228) (I hope I don't have to list all of these!)

Equipment:
Large Oak Dagger (-12)

No extra points!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 07:14:13 pm
Alright! I fell asleep for a bit or else I would have responded a lot quicker to everyone, just going to check over each build now.

About that, is it possible to equip two shields ? Would the gladiator still be considered unarmed ?

I shall do some testing on that and get back to you.

I'd like to play:

Mogwai the Devious
Gremlin (360 points)
Acomplished Dodger (10) 220 pts
Proficient Knife User (5) 75 pts
2 Large Bronze Daggers (32 pts each, 64 total)

1 Point Left.


Aha! A clever little green-skin, I truly hope one of the little guys get far in this tourney! (Not biased)

I will be

-Steapa the Northman-

Human +240

[Skills]
Competent dodger (3) -30
Competent armor wearer (3) -12
Skilled fighter (4) -30
Competent axeman (3) -36

[Weapons]
Steel Greataxe -120

[Armor]
Leather Greaves -9

Total : 237 points 3 remaining

*I hope I did the math right :P

Welcome Steapa the Northman! Clad in naught but his hide, he's got a fearsome swing.


-Cerol Chickenkicker-
Race: Dwarf + 240

Equipment:
Steel Dagger:      -64
Iron Mail Shirt:    -48
Oak Shield:         -45
Armor Total:       -157

Skills:
Adequate Knifedwarf:  -15
Adequate Dodger:       -15
Adequate Shield User: -12
Novice Armor User:    -9
Skill Total:                -51

Extra Points: +32

Ah, Chickenkicker you must regale me of your title one of these days.

Hugh Mann the Dabbler
Race: Human (+240)

Skills:
Adequate in everything (-228) (I hope I don't have to list all of these!)

Equipment:
Large Oak Dagger (-12)

No extra points!

Hugh Man is truly a man among men, jack of all trades, master of none.

Alright! I hope rechecked your math all well and good, there seem to be a ton of daggers in this tournament, I suppose they get the job done and are cheap. You are all accepted and I hope we have a great tourney!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 14, 2015, 07:29:48 pm
Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench

Goblin (+240)

Skills:
Expert Lasher (-108)
Skilled Fighter  (-30)
Proficient Dodger (-45)

Equipment:
Iron Scourge (-38)

Total: 19 pts
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 07:31:32 pm
Your reputation and long title preceded you my lord. Hail Bax, the stinkiest and perhaps ugliest Goblin around!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 14, 2015, 07:34:25 pm
This looks really cool :O Working on building up a good gladiator but I was wondering, is everyone just gonna be average agility, strength, etc.? Didn't see a spot to pay points for better physical stats.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Putnam on May 14, 2015, 07:38:27 pm
Kinesthetic sense, spatial sense and willpower are hugely important for combat and you're not taking them into account... while you are taking into account disease resistance, which is pretty much useless except against brown recluse spider men or whatever.

Also, the observer skill is pretty important.

Also, your chart is wrong. Platinum has a better edge than copper. Also, bronze's stopping power is actually slightly worse than iron's, given a weapon of iron or better, due to iron having better FRACTURE and STRAIN_AT_YIELD values. If the weapon is worse than iron, however, bronze is better.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 07:38:55 pm
This looks really cool :O Working on building up a good gladiator but I was wondering, is everyone just gonna be average agility, strength, etc.? Didn't see a spot to pay points for better physical stats.

Unfortunately yes, there is no way, to my knowledge to change a creature's attributes in the object testing arena. Those +1s and -1s on the race table are hold overs from years ago, there might have been a way to do it then, but not now. Unless I am sorely mistaken.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 14, 2015, 07:39:58 pm
PTW for now, will throw in a gladiator later.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 07:40:43 pm
Is it okay if i post fan art of what I think my gladiator should look like with the equipment he has? :)

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 07:40:58 pm
They aren't exactly my own charts, they've been taken from old versions of this system from around four years ago. I have not reworked them, and I do not know I have the mental capacity to do so.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Old-Gregg on May 14, 2015, 07:41:37 pm
-Expedia The Terrible-

Dark Gnome +340

[Skills]
Skilled dodger (4) (tiny) -40
Proficient armor wearer (5) -30
Talented fighter (6) -63
Talented lasher  (6) -105

[Weapons]
Platinum whip -48

[Armor]
Copper Breastplate -25
Copper Leggings-17.5
Copper Gauntlets-10

Total : 338.5 points 1.5 remaining
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 14, 2015, 07:45:25 pm
Soz for all the questions but would Observer fall under the "Misc." skill costs?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Putnam on May 14, 2015, 07:55:43 pm
Misc. object user refers specifically to fighting with items that do not have skills associated, such as socks.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 07:55:59 pm
Is it okay if i post fan art of what I think my gladiator would look like? :P

I don't see why not, as long as you place it in a spoiler.
-Expedia The Terrible-

Dark Gnome +340

[Skills]
Skilled dodger (4) (tiny) -40
Proficient armor wearer (5) -30
Talented fighter (6) -63
Talented lasher  (6) -105

[Weapons]
Platinum whip -48

[Armor]
Copper Breastplate -25
Copper Leggings-17.5
Copper Gauntlets-10

Total : 338.5 points 1.5 remaining

A gnome? One of horrid descent of course, what vile cave have you crawled out of and why?
Soz for all the questions but would Observer fall under the "Misc." skill costs?

No, Observer is its own skill, and I suppose it does have quite a bit to play in combat, I will add it to the skill chart. Misc is actually using objects like chairs or an arm as a weapon, don't believe I can spawn creatures with those kinds of things in the arena now that I think about it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 07:56:11 pm
AMAZING

Slippery d'Snek
Serpent Man (250)
Skilled hammer Snek (60)
Skilled shield Snek (40)
Competent Dodge snek (30)
Adequate Biting Snek (12)

Silver Warhammer (26)
Oak Shield       (60)
leather mail shirt (12)

250 pts spent 0 remaining
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:02:20 pm
Another foul serpent eh? It'll be interesting to see how your venom pans out during this tourney.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:03:59 pm
Another foul serpent eh? It'll be interesting to see how your venom pans out during this tourney.

It's interesting seeing all these builds come out. I think the Champions (can I call them that? =D) that rely on high dodge are going to do poorly on the two maps that are on bridges. I wasn't even going to include dodge but didnt want to get minced by an archer...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 14, 2015, 08:08:16 pm
No, Observer is its own skill, and I suppose it does have quite a bit to play in combat, I will add it to the skill chart. Misc is actually using objects like chairs or an arm as a weapon, don't believe I can spawn creatures with those kinds of things in the arena now that I think about it.
Ah, okay. Lemme know when you work out the Observer costs and I'll get my guy set up :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:10:40 pm
I've chosen for it to equal the fighter skill in cost as they both have sort of a general increase to a character's fighting ability, by my understanding at least.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:12:31 pm
It's interesting seeing all these builds come out. I think the Champions (can I call them that? =D) that rely on high dodge are going to do poorly on the two maps that are on bridges. I wasn't even going to include dodge but didnt want to get minced by an archer...

While we are on the subject of maps, I added that in last minute and haven't really given much thought on it. I'd like to hear some opinions, would you rather be in the klassic arena at all times or do you think extra areas to fight are welcome here?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:13:53 pm
OK! this is my fanart for what my gladiator would probably look like :)

This is also a call-out to you Pliskin you filthy snake!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)



*Also I think there should be extra arenas to fight in, it just makes it more unique! *
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:17:13 pm
That is beautiful! Seems like we've got a little rivalry. Perhaps they should be nudged into battle between each other? Perhaps not.

How long did that take you, I'm curious. And I'm sure that many people would love for you to draw there characters, having you slave away without a bit of reciprocation!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:18:11 pm
I like the varied arenas but the bridge should perhaps be a bit wider.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:20:51 pm
How much wider would you say? 5 Tiles across? 6, 7, 8? And that'd be for both maps with bridges, correct?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:21:57 pm
yes as it is most people will probably die due to dodge deaths. 7 would probably be good.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 14, 2015, 08:23:08 pm
Sam Squatch
Yeti
Talented wrestler
Adequate striker
Novice biter
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:24:35 pm
Thank you!

I'm sure I could draw the other gladiators who ask for a drawing :D I'm just getting excited for those Epic Fight Scenes!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:25:22 pm
Thank you!

I'm sure I could draw the other gladiators who ask for a drawing :D I'm just getting excited for those Epic Fight Scenes!

Do me please ! I'm Slippery d'Snek! Snake man with oaken shield and silver warhammer! oh please please !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:27:47 pm
Thank you!

I'm sure I could draw the other gladiators who ask for a drawing :D I'm just getting excited for those Epic Fight Scenes!

Do me please ! I'm Slippery d'Snek! Snake man with oaken shield and silver warhammer! oh please please !

Sure thing! But just a few questions for the drawing.
Do snakemen have a head of a snake or is it snake torso down :D?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:28:19 pm
Sam Squatch
Yeti
Talented wrestler
Adequate striker
Novice biter

Sam Squatch, truly a great name even for a yeti. Even for a completely unarmored yeti. Ya know what, you're gonna go all the way kid.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:29:42 pm
Thank you!

I'm sure I could draw the other gladiators who ask for a drawing :D I'm just getting excited for those Epic Fight Scenes!

Do me please ! I'm Slippery d'Snek! Snake man with oaken shield and silver warhammer! oh please please !

Sure thing! But just a few questions for the drawing.
Do snakemen have a head of a snake or is it snake torso down :D?

haha I think it's all snake just with arms.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 14, 2015, 08:31:03 pm
Argh, I'm such an idiot xD How much would it cost to put points in Swimmer?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:32:45 pm
Argh, I'm such an idiot xD How much would it cost to put points in Swimmer?

Hmm, do you really want swimmer? Alright I suppose it can be cheaper, let me add that to the skill chart.
Well there you go, swimmer has been added to the end.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:45:56 pm
Here you go AlphaWolf!

This is Slippery d'Snek from the description I got :)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:49:29 pm
Not even twenty minutes, speedy and they look freaking awesome. Good work.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:51:15 pm
Here you go AlphaWolf!

This is Slippery d'Snek from the description I got :)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

wow. you're amazing, that's amazing, wow. I'm flattered!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:51:49 pm
Not even twenty minutes, speedy and they look freaking awesome. Good work.

Thanks Man! :D

I get a feeling that with that sneaky gremlin gladiator, there will be some dramatic scenes to draw! :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 08:52:52 pm
Here you go AlphaWolf!

This is Slippery d'Snek from the description I got :)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

wow. you're amazing, that's amazing, wow. I'm flattered!

Thanks man! Glad you enjoy it! :)

Doesn't mean I won't kill you in the arena though >:)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 08:53:46 pm
Not even twenty minutes, speedy and they look freaking awesome. Good work.

Thanks Man! :D

I get a feeling that with that sneaky gremlin gladiator, there will be some dramatic scenes to draw! :)

man you're amazing. OP should post the battle logs of the fights so we can pour over them! or even record them in .gif
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 08:59:05 pm
Well, that was exactly what I was planning, along with my own narration of these events.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 08:59:42 pm
Crush the crusher

Minautor 140

Proficient Hammer 90
Silver Maul 32
rest 18
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 09:02:57 pm
Crush the crusher

Minautor 140

Proficient Hammer 90
Silver Maul 32
rest 18

Oh hot damn, its a minautor  :o
Make sure to target the snakemen first, those guys are poisonous! ;)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 09:03:43 pm
Dey all get crushed the same
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 14, 2015, 09:04:52 pm
Finally I give you, the technical fighter from the Coalition of Pearls...!!

~Shotgun Gai~

Human (240)

[Skills]
Skilled Dodger (-50)
Competent Swordsman (-36)
Proficient Fighter (-45)
Competent Observer (-30)
Competent Swimmer (-12)

[Gear]
Iron 2-Handed Sword (-56)
Oak Gauntlets (just one on the right arm for badass points ;P) (-6)

EDIT: Oh, and 5 points left over :P
I might draw a thing or two tomorrow if I can find a picture, foxtrot got me in the mood xD

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 14, 2015, 09:06:03 pm
Yes! Record it in .gif, take a screenshot of the combat log, and then write a dramatic narrative.

I'm throwing my hat into the ring for this one, I'll create a combatant soon. Someone on reddit pointed out that minotaurs have a dozen or so [NATURAL_SKILLS], including weapon skills, dodging, and fighting - what do you plan on doing about this?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:06:59 pm
Crush the crusher

Minautor 140

Proficient Hammer 90
Silver Maul 32
rest 18

All will fall before Crush the Crusher!

Finally I give you, the technical fighter from the Coalition of Pearls...!!

~Shotgun Gai~

Human (240)

[Skills]
Skilled Dodger (-50)
Competent Swordsman (-36)
Proficient Fighter (-45)
Competent Observer (-30)
Competent Swimmer (-12)

[Gear]
Iron 2-Handed Sword (-56)
Oak Gauntlets (just one on the right arm for badass points ;P) (-6)



Neato, you finally finished! Heh, I'm going to go try and extend the bridge, but I can't find the place where the bridge is in the arena text.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:07:44 pm
I've rid the Minotaur's of their natural skill, after-all it would clearly be better objectively to play a minotaur.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 09:08:16 pm
Yes! Record it in .gif, take a screenshot of the combat log, and then write a dramatic narrative.

I'm throwing my hat into the ring for this one, I'll create a combatant soon. Someone on reddit pointed out that minotaurs have a dozen or so [NATURAL_SKILLS], including weapon skills, dodging, and fighting - what do you plan on doing about this?

Really! :o I thought minotaurs only had the horns and size bonuses as extra?

I've rid the Minotaur's of their natural skill, after-all it would clearly be better objectively to play a minotaur.

Nvm looks like the problem is solved!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 09:09:43 pm
How many buy points do we get for surviving a round? whats the reward system like?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 09:09:55 pm
I figure, that's why i added proficient hammer. Hopefully it won't induce some bugs ie, if you remove native dodge skills he stops dodging at all.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:12:13 pm
Don't worry, I promise you that removing those tag will not cause bugs. As for rewards, if you succeed in a match the points left over from the previous are doubled, so 18 leftover becomes 36. As well as, you gain the same amount of points that are detailed in your race. So a Kobold would gain another 290 points.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:19:32 pm
I cannot seem to change the edit the arena text without viciously deforming it. If anyone technically superior to myself wishes to widen the bridges for vertigo and water hazard be my guest. If not I'll look into it tomorrow.

And it seems that we are at twelve competitors, excellent. This is growing faster than anticipated!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 09:38:35 pm
I cannot seem to change the edit the arena text without viciously deforming it. If anyone technically superior to myself wishes to widen the bridges for vertigo and water hazard be my guest. If not I'll look into it tomorrow.

And it seems that we are at twelve competitors, excellent. This is growing faster than anticipated!

I think that if you cant change the maps then thats fine :D

As long as its not the same map everytime it'll still be awesome!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 14, 2015, 09:41:31 pm
maybe someone can make a map with traps ^.^
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 09:44:11 pm
maybe someone can make a map with traps ^.^

That sounds cool! I just hope the match isnt everyone dying to traps :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:47:25 pm
Aha! Through a ton of trial and error I bring you the new Vertigo and Water Hazard!
Spoiler: Stages (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wheelo on May 14, 2015, 09:48:46 pm
One Bow Juan

Plump Helmet Man 270
Equip
1 Steel Bows -104
Skills
Adept in archery 84
proficient in bow 75
Novice Swimmer 2
Novice Dodger 5

Modified from Joe Two Bow
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 14, 2015, 09:50:39 pm
Aha! Through a ton of trial and error I bring you the new Vertigo and Water Hazard!
Spoiler: Stages (click to show/hide)

AWESOME!!!

Does this mean you can make custom arena maps :D??
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Baffler on May 14, 2015, 09:51:07 pm
Do note that it's impossible to get a quiver in the arena, so a ranged character will only have one hand to hold the bow and have to hold his ammunition in the other. Unless there's some workaround I'm not aware of taking an archer is a hell of a gamble.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:53:01 pm
It is possible to make custom arena maps, but it involves changing certain text in a text file that is a big jumble of characters, possible but far from ideal.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 09:53:24 pm
Maybe the bows were meant for melee?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 09:54:43 pm
Two Bow Joe

Plump Helmet Man 270
Equip
1 Steel Bows -104
1 iron bow -52
Leather Helm 6
Leather Gauntlets 4
Leather high boots 5
Skills
proficient in archery 45
skilled in bow 50
Novice Swimmer 2
Novice Armor 2

Gotta say, I love Plump Helmet Men! I'll check on how the gladiator reacts to holding two bows and bolts. Are those crossbows or normal bows?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Putnam on May 14, 2015, 09:55:22 pm
Aha! Through a ton of trial and error I bring you the new Vertigo and Water Hazard!
Spoiler: Stages (click to show/hide)

AWESOME!!!

Does this mean you can make custom arena maps :D??

Yes, that's been possible for as long as the arena has existed
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:01:47 pm
Yes, that's been possible for as long as the arena has existed

Hey, do you happen to know of an -easy- way to edit the arena. As it is hard for me to find exactly the places I am looking for in the text file.

Oh, and when the creature wields two bows they will drop either the arrows they are holding or one of the bows. So you may want to rethink your build Wheelo!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 10:03:44 pm
When is the event gonna start? Also any exhibition matches? Crush would volunteer!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:09:30 pm
I'd like to start the event shortly after having a sufficient amount of gladiators. This being either 16 or 32 depending on how many people we actually get to arrive. I'm leaning towards sixteen, any input?

And I suppose exhibition matches could be fun, how would you want them set up?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 10:13:02 pm
Basic arena, duel style? Crush will take on any brave volunteer.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 14, 2015, 10:17:49 pm
This looks too fun not to try. I'm going full elf mode on this and see how it turns out. :P

Ina Thelire, Ina the Tall

race - male Elf (240p)

[Equipment]
steel short sword (80p)
oak buckler (22.5p)
oak helm (9p)
oak breast plate (15p)
oak greaves (13.5p)
oak low boots (6p)
oak gaundlets (6p)

[skills]
competent(2) fighter (9p)
skilled(4) sword (60p)
adequate(2) shield (12p)
novice(1) dodger (5p)
novice(1) armor (2p)

no extra points

Edit: added gladiatorial title.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:18:43 pm
So essentially you'd like anyone to challenge Crush to a match that has no weight. And have me relay the outcome and what not, that could work well as a test, to see how the matches would be displayed. Though, I would say anyone who participates cannot change their gear from then on. Or else they would be able to change stuff around and what not. Any thoughts?

This looks too fun not to try. I'm going full elf mode on this and see how it turns out. :P

Ina Thelire

race - Elf (240p)

[Equipment]
steel short sword (80p)
oak buckler (22.5p)
oak helm (9p)
oak breast plate (15p)
oak greaves (13.5p)
oak low boots (6p)
oak gaundlets (6p)

[skills]
competent(2) fighter (9p)
skilled(4) sword (60p)
adequate(2) shield (12p)
novice(1) dodger (5p)
novice(1) armor (2p)

no extra points

Blasted Elf, you didn't even come up with your own gladiatorial title! Otherwise, I accept!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 14, 2015, 10:22:45 pm
I wouldn't change my stuff after, just for fun. If there's lurkers on the fence, this might help them get in. Also you get a test run of experience. Don't mind if there's one or not or if others want to send their champion instead.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:25:30 pm
Good points! I won't mind doing it. Doesn't even have to be a one on one. Though I suppose if anyone wishes to place their gladiator forward in a superfluous duel against Crush the Crusher there should be no harm.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 14, 2015, 10:31:09 pm
Blasted Elf, you didn't even come up with your own gladiatorial title! Otherwise, I accept!

Alright, how does Ina the Tall sound? As a elf, I need to be as offensive to dwarves as possible. :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:39:17 pm
Perfect, Ina the Tall it is! It might be good to also tell me your gladiator's gender, I could easily get it wrong from looking at just the name.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 14, 2015, 10:41:48 pm
Perfect, Ina the Tall it is! It might be good to also tell me your gladiator's gender, I could easily get it wrong from looking at just the name.

He's male.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 14, 2015, 10:45:15 pm
Unraveller, you forgot to add Sam Squatch to the list  :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 10:47:18 pm
Unraveller, you forgot to add Sam Squatch to the list  :(

I. . . I am so sorry. 1 Billion pardons, no a decatillion. Sam Squatch is love, Sam Squatch is life.

There, Sam Squatch is now the first on the list.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 14, 2015, 11:19:07 pm
Bax seems to be missing from the list as well. He'd also like to cut that blasted tall elf down.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:20:57 pm
Ugh, I'm sorry. There were a lot of things going on and a lot of posts being made. I'll add him right now. Done! Wow, that was way back on the second post that Bax was created. Gee this moved fast.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:31:28 pm
Wheelo has revised his character and sent me:

One Bow Juan
Plump Helmet Man 270
Equip
1 Steel Bows -104
Skills
Adept in archery 84
proficient in bow 75
Novice Swimmer 2
Novice Dodger 5

This brings the total amount of gladiators currently registered to 16. The perfect amount for a standard single elimination bracket. The question arises now, and I'd like all of your input here, Do we wait for more gladiators? if so, how many?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 14, 2015, 11:31:35 pm
It looks like we have 16 fighters already!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 14, 2015, 11:34:01 pm
I wish to enter Narhtan the Crundle Bundle

Class: Crundle.                360p

Skills:
  -Professional dodger  180p
  -Proficient biter.           60p
  -Skilled lasher              50p
  -(novice?) Swimmer    2p
  -Competent armor user 12p
Items:
  -Iron whip.           29p
  -leather shirt.      12p
  -leather helm.      6p
  -leather graves.    9p

I hope his high dodging will be able to account for his lack of strength/squishyness.
Also sign him up for any/all exhibition matches, I'm keen to watch him (hopefully) whip it, whip it gooood.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:36:08 pm
Right, but here is where I have a dilemma, way back on the first page I promised FearsomeClarinet that there would be plenty of time to wait and make their gladiator. And as it turns out there was not, do I simply say better luck next time? Or find a way to include them?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 14, 2015, 11:39:11 pm
I say wait. This thread has only been up for 12 hours - surely there are many who would participate, but simply haven't checked the forums. The rate of new entrants has been pretty steady, and it will probably continue.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 14, 2015, 11:40:19 pm
A fight to the death for all competitors who are over the limit? like a large all out war?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:41:01 pm
I wish to enter Narhtan the Crundle Bundle

Class: Crundle.                360p

Skills:
  -Professional dodger  180p
  -Proficient biter.           60p
  -Skilled lasher              50p
  -(novice?) Swimmer    2p
  -Competent armor user 12p
Items:
  -Iron whip.           29p
  -leather shirt.      12p
  -leather helm.      6p
  -leather graves.    9p

I hope his high dodging will be able to account for his lack of strength/squishyness.
Also sign him up for any/all exhibition matches, I'm keen to watch him (hopefully) whip it, whip it gooood.

I am so glad that someone is playing a Crundle!

All right, that settles it, I just cannot turn people down. There will be more than 16 gladiators, tomorrow, when I wake up, I will likely lock the sign ups however. I can find a way to include everyone into the bracket. I cannot have any gladiators go through more fights than any others, or else there would be a disparity in their power.

I'm think that there will have to be some preliminary round to determine who gets one of the sixteen spots in the bracket. Right now, I need suggestions.

EDIT: Perhaps you are right. The problem is that I am a little daunted by running a 32 man tournament. Though you really bring a good point.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 14, 2015, 11:49:21 pm
I can't draw, here is a shitty serpent-men battlesong about how Pliskin the Miasmagnificient will eat Steapa the northman !

https://soundcloud.com/fabien-29/plissssskin-eats-the-northman
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 14, 2015, 11:58:26 pm
I sure do love how people are already creating media for a game that hasn't even begun yet. Bravo!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 12:01:24 am
16 is alright, there can always be another tourney. From what I read from previous gladiator tournament, if it drags on too long it causes problems. But really I don't mind whatever happens, just my opinion. Also there can be more, they just get free pass at either round 1 or 2.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 12:04:49 am
See, that was my thought earlier and the problem I am facing, I don't want this to drag on and become a bore. But I cannot tell the people who've been accepted to make some room.

So, tourney you suppose the viability is of having a 16 gladiator tournament, and afterwards hosting anotherfor those that were unable to participate in the first?

Another idea I had, if this gains popularity, I could hold one monthly or perhaps annually, and have a large qualifying round for the 16 spots. After 16 months the champions from each tourney could enter a gtand champion ship tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 15, 2015, 12:21:21 am
I vote for 16. Late joiners can be in the next tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 12:23:38 am
16 is a good limit. I like the idea of this tournament so maybe a second one could be hosted at a later date.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 12:24:55 am
There are two roads I'd like to go down.

The first, late joiners will be able to enter thr next tournament.

The second, and I prefer this one, everyone who has signed up until, say 24 hours after the post was made will be placed in a qualifying round. This can be changed, though I like the idea and I feel it is fair. Though criticism will be welcomed.

I feel the 16 gladiator tournaments seem more personal, more grudges, more interaction, more familiarity.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 15, 2015, 12:31:53 am
I like the idea of a qualifying round but it might take a while. It would be pretty cool to have an all out war and only one survivor, however posting combat reports would be time consuming...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 12:33:41 am
For the qualifiers I could pass through it with less descriptiveness, mostly allowing the gif and combat log speak for me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 01:34:14 am
The descriptiveness should be proportional to the importance of a fight. Just logs and gifs for qualifiers, small descriptions at first, and bigger description for the finals.

Depending on how much trouble it is to organize the tournament, monthly could be cool. Some months could have special conditions, like all fights on the bridge, or random weapons, team fights, etc.

By the way I don't follow sports a lot. How does qualifiers work usually ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 15, 2015, 01:51:02 am
Well, whatever you decide to do with gladiators 17-32, I'm throwing my hat in the ring. Presenting...

Myrma the Defi-ant
Soldier Ant Woman (250 pts)
Equipment:
- Oaken Shield x 2 (90 pts)
- Silver Buckler x 2 (60 pts)
Skills:
- Skilled Shield User (40 pts)
- Skilled Misc. Object User (30 pts)
- Competent Dodger (30 pts)
Points left: 0 pts

A little silly, I know. But I'm hoping she'll be a crowd-pleaser.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 15, 2015, 02:50:13 am
So its come to my attention that there are no crundles in arena mode... Am I missing something or should all crundle gladiators be changed to gremlins?
I mean, crundles and gremlins are pretty similar in stats, and it would be far easier than modding raws.

But I'm a tad biased because I would prefer to be a gremlin than a crundle :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Putnam on May 15, 2015, 02:52:56 am
So its come to my attention that there are no crundles in arena mode... Am I missing something or should all crundle gladiators be changed to gremlins?

You can remove [ARENA_RESTRICTED] from crundles to get them better
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dibuk on May 15, 2015, 03:09:09 am
I've rid the Minotaur's of their natural skill, after-all it would clearly be better objectively to play a minotaur.

I'll have to redo my skill-less minotaur (Asbjorn) in that case. brb

This is the same mino on the front page, I'll update that one also. Just telling so it wont end up being two Asbjorns

-Asbjorn The Elf-Eater-
Minotaur - 140p

Adequate Hammer 18p
Adequate Shield 12p

Silver Warhammer - 26p
Oak Shield - 45p
Copper high boots - 12,5p
Copper gauntles - 10p
Copper helm - 15p
Points left: 1,5p
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 05:38:54 am
And here I thought I was weird for starting to draw fanart of my lil dude before the game even began. Far from finished but now I want to show off the prelim sketch. http://i.imgur.com/vXRh6dI.png

Granted, he doesn't have any armor, but I figured drawing him with clothes wouldn't hurt anything. 'Cause a pig tail hood protects from so much.  :P

And while I know Toady's kobolds aren't depicted as 'standard' kobolds, I've been in a species designing mood lately and they -do- lay eggs, so whatever, tiny lizard man gonna try and stab you in the face. Hopefully.

Oh! I would like to ah, go ahead and say that Varick's default choices for arena are going to be Klassic and Peaceful Meadows, since the front says we're supposed to agree on an arena. I figured since I have weird hours it might be a good idea to go ahead and just say "Hey I want these if my opponent doesn't, randomize the arena" so you don't have to wait for me to show up and say that. :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 05:43:23 am
And here I thought I was weird for starting to draw fanart of my lil dude before the game even began. Far from finished but now I want to show off the prelim sketch. http://i.imgur.com/vXRh6dI.png

Granted, he doesn't have any armor, but I figured drawing him with clothes wouldn't hurt anything. 'Cause a pig tail hood protects from so much.  :P

And while I know Toady's kobolds aren't depicted as 'standard' kobolds, I've been in a species designing mood lately and they -do- lay eggs, so whatever, tiny lizard man gonna try and stab you in the face. Hopefully.

Oh! I would like to ah, go ahead and say that Varick's default choices for arena are going to be Klassic and Peaceful Meadows, since the front says we're supposed to agree on an arena. I figured since I have weird hours it might be a good idea to go ahead and just say "Hey I want these if my opponent doesn't, randomize the arena" so you don't have to wait for me to show up and say that. :P


Holy SHit thats a Nice Kobold! I really like the species variation, makes it seem more combat like then all the cute kobolds people draw :P!

Also my gladiator Steapa's preferences are Burning Castle and Vertigo
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Ambrosia on May 15, 2015, 07:32:38 am
I'm wondering if you'd be alright with a Bat Man submission? I figure that he'd just have the same point limit as a serpent man. Would that be fine? :P
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 08:27:27 am
Well, whatever you decide to do with gladiators 17-32, I'm throwing my hat in the ring. Presenting...

Myrma the Defi-ant
Soldier Ant Woman (250 pts)
Equipment:
- Oaken Shield x 2 (90 pts)
- Silver Buckler x 2 (60 pts)
Skills:
- Skilled Shield User (40 pts)
- Skilled Misc. Object User (30 pts)
- Competent Dodger (30 pts)
Points left: 0 pts

A little silly, I know. But I'm hoping she'll be a crowd-pleaser.

I was wondering when we would get a shield basher, and one with four of 'em no less. Welcome aboard!

I'm wondering if you'd be alright with a Bat Man submission? I figure that he'd just have the same point limit as a serpent man. Would that be fine? :P
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

There is one thing I'm iffy on, flight, I'm not entirely sure how it will affect fights with grounded foes. So I'd like to test it out a couple times and get back to you.

EDIT: Alright, so I have half a mind to allow flight. Though you do have quite an advantage on both Vertigo and Water Hazard, I may give you a tinge less points that serpent men, whcih I might have done already due to bat men being 20,000 Urists larger than serpent men.

By the way I don't follow sports a lot. How does qualifiers work usually ?

Good question, I've only thought of one way to make it work, and I'm sure there are better solutions. Say that we have 16 spots but 22 gladiators. The qualifying round could be a simple one on one duel of 11 matches, those who win get spots in the tournament. The 11 who lose those matches go on to fight with a second chance in a series of 4 one on ones, and a single three man brawl. The winners of which fill the rest of the spots making sixteen gladiators.

Alright, so quick other thing, I'd like to stream these matches and commentate on twitch, and use the forums to post a gif, combat log, and all that other good stuff afterwards for those who've missed the stream. Just a little thought though.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 09:09:05 am
I would definitely weigh in that flight would give a pretty big advantage on those maps. There's no way for a grounded combatant to counter that advantage, either. I'd say they should definitely get less points, because while yeah snakemen have venom they actually have to bite to get it, whereas the batman would just have a flat not-falling-to-their-death buff.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 15, 2015, 10:34:00 am
Being able to fly is a huge advantage, as they NPC can and will fly away when he suffers a lot of damage. I think Batmen should be very expensive :S
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 15, 2015, 10:34:32 am
Being able to fly is a huge advantage, as they NPC can and will fly away when he suffers a lot of damage. I think Batmen should be very expensive, he could hypothetically win a fight without ever having fought anyone
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 10:35:13 am
I'm either going to have to say no to flying or reduce the points you get for having it. I'm leaning on no flying.

Oh and here is a little test gif for stuffs. I should probably slow it down some more, seems like it still moves a bit too quickly.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 10:49:42 am
Registered to participate! Hope its not too late!

Mon-tha-mau
Yeti, M

100 pts to spend

[Items]
Silver maul - 32

[Skills]
Skilled hammer - 60
Novice biter - 4
Novice fighter - 3

1 point left
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 10:56:45 am
Nope, not late! All though, I will have to cut off registration at some point. Any thoughts? We are currently at 20 gladiators.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 11:05:10 am
Nope, not late! All though, I will have to cut off registration at some point. Any thoughts?

Ahh! Great!
Id say when 32 participants are gathered or when time limit is reached. How about 24/48 hours from topic start? Or when you feel unresistable urge to grind some poor fellows!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 11:09:16 am
Well, I would prefer less than 32, as I'd like to not make this drag on for too long, there can always be another tournament, in fact, I'm planning on doing it monthly. Could be fun, and as of six minutes ago it has been 24 hours since this topic has been posted. Would everyone think that now would be a good time to lock up registration and get on with the qualifying round?

Or do you suppose there is something to be had in waiting for 32 participants? My feelings for such are that it would make it less intimate.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 11:18:52 am
You`re the Master of the Games! As im in now, i eager to see how my... "pupil" will behave!
My vote is on "start"! :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 12:02:57 pm
I vote to start as well. There will always be other games for those that couldn't join.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 12:05:33 pm
I don't care one way or the other. Might as well start. I'm very interested to see how the fights turn out!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 12:08:04 pm
Yeah, I'd also say start.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 15, 2015, 12:20:24 pm
Start!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 12:24:34 pm
Well, there seems to be a want for this to get going. I suppose that I shall begin generating the match-ups for the qualifying round.

Is there any interest in seeing the matches played out streaming on twitch, in which I will commentate. I will afterwards post the gifs and combat logs of said matches, along with a short description due to less importance of these matches.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 12:34:43 pm
I'd watch it!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 12:54:13 pm
I'd like one more gladiator, in order to make a nice even number of twenty-two. I shall close the applications afterwards and begin matching everyone up. A bit after that the qualifiers will begin, I shall stream them on my twitch channel (http://www.twitch.tv/unraveller) I have not yet decided when, but I will post here to let everyone know. There probably won't be a high level of detail in these matches as they are simply the preliminaries.

And of course I shall be posting these matches and their outcomes on this forum afterwards.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 01:22:58 pm
I dont know about watching live commentary, but I always like gif/narrations style :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 01:25:44 pm
I think I'll gauge interest in the idea, if there are only two people watching as I do it, I doubt that I'll continue. But there will be without a doubt the normal narration and gif posting on this forum. I may not even do the stream to begin with, I am unsure.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 01:27:29 pm
Can i submit second fighter? If no - can we agree on some kind of filler participant?
I propose "mad coliseum bard" - human in cloth with harp and all points in misc object user/striker/fighter ("from drunken fights").
Not much of a challenge, but still not a free pass.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 01:30:20 pm
I'd rather not have someone with multiple fighters. And I also do not believe that I can spawn a creature with a musical instrument or such in the arena. On the reddit post, someone had expressed interest and said they would post their gladiator soon about a half-hour ago. If worst comes I can create a gladiator to add in. Or everyone can agree on a filler participant like you had suggested.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 01:33:17 pm
I'd say give the person on Reddit a bit if they said they were going to make one, then if they don't post (you can decide the time, half or a full hour? I dunno) ... you could just have someone get a free pass. That happens sometimes in elimination tourneys. It's all up to the draw of the number.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:07:44 pm
The most I'm going to give will be until 3:30 EST. Now that may not be completely fair, but it seems that this should get underway soon. There will always be another tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: vityav on May 15, 2015, 02:16:01 pm
I was going to wait until next tournament, but sounds like you have an empty slot so I'll throw one in. Just found this so not much time to think one up, but lets go with:

Vlad of the Oils
Dwarf (240pt)
Equipment:
Steel Pick (48pt)

Skills:
Expert Dodger (180pt)

Leftover: 12pt

Yes it's just a naked, oiled up, miner.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:18:09 pm
Alright! We shall run with it.

For those who were unable to enter in this tournament, another will likely be held next month. Forgive me.

Time to generate spots! I shall post them shortly.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 02:19:02 pm
Sorry about the delay. I'm going to submit Orthus The Manflayer, a whip-wielding Minotaur with an insatiable thirst for blood.

Race: Minotaur (+140p)

Skills:
Novice Fighter (-3p)
Competent Lasher (-30p)
Competent Huge Dodger (-36)

Equipment:
Platinum Whip (-48p)
Silver Whip (-12p)
Human Leather Armor (-10p)
1 Point Remaining

I treated the Leather Armor as though it were a breast-plate of leather. Feel free to change it to something else if it's not allowed.
Also, please double check my math, as I probably messed something up somewhere in there.

EDIT: If you've already generated the brackets, don't worry about it. I'll join next tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: vityav on May 15, 2015, 02:22:25 pm
Sorry about the delay. I'm going to submit Orthus The Manflayer, a whip-wielding Minotaur with an insatiable thirst for blood.

I'm also cool waiting to let in more well-thought-out gladiators :P just figured I'd fill the spot if needed
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:23:43 pm
Alright, I was getting worried you were not going to show up. But the problem is that you make 23 gladiators, which is a bit more tricky than 22 to qualify you see. It'll be more difficult for me to place matches without doing some wonky three player match as well.

I'm also cool waiting to let in more well-thought-out gladiators :P just figured I'd fill the spot if needed


If that is the case, then I hope you would not mind waiting until the next one.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 02:27:23 pm
If you need me to sit out, that's alright. Or if two other people are okay with a three player match, we could do that.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:31:12 pm
I believe it would be best if one of you chose to sit out.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: vityav on May 15, 2015, 02:32:41 pm
If that is the case, then I hope you would not mind waiting until the next one.

No problem. I'll sit this one out
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 02:33:56 pm
Thanks Vityav! I'll dedicate my victory to you.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:34:27 pm
Thank you very much, you will certainly be participating in the next one. Without further ado, I will be posting the match-ups for the qualifying round.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 02:39:21 pm
Awesome!! This is gonna be soo epic! :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 02:48:49 pm
Time for blood and venom !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 02:50:10 pm
And vomit. Lots and lots of vomit.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 02:55:04 pm
Vomit for the vomit god.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 02:57:07 pm
Alright Gladiators! Thank you for pulling the numbers out of my hat! Thus follows the match-up order for the qualifying round!

Match I (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150739.msg6231964#msg6231964)
-Varick the Flighty- Managed by variablenonsense VS. -Hodekin the Legendary- Managed by _Italics_


Match II (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150739.msg6232030#msg6232030)
-Steapa the Northman- Managed by foxtrot VS. -Sam Squatch- Managed by NAV

Match III (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150739.msg6232098#msg6232098)
-Crush the Crusher- Managed by kiershar VS. -Hugh Mann the Dabbler- Managed by Wofi

Match IV
-Ina the Tall- Managed by xub313 VS. -Wuce Brayne- Managed by Ambrosia

Match V
-Orthus the Manflayer- Managed by Rero Falcon VS. -One Bow Juan- Managed by Wheelo

Match VI
-Mon-tha-mau- Managed by angrykitteh VS. -Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan

Match VII
-Expedia The Terrible- Managed by Old-Gregg VS. -Portabelo the Delicious- Managed by Desolate Domain

Match VIII
-Mogwai the Devious- Managed by Elagn VS. -Narhtan the Crundle Bundle- Managed by nate.219

Match VIV
-Asbjorn The Elf-Eater- Managed by Dibuk VS. -Cerol Chickenkicker- Managed by Baffler

Match X
-Slippery d'Snek- Managed by alphawolf29 VS. -Myrma the Defi-ant- Managed by DS

Match XI
-Shotgun Gai- Managed by Tavern VS. -Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient- Managed by Tesseract



Thank you, please tell me if any names are wrong! The qualifying round will take place in the Klassic arena only. The eleven winners from this round will take spots in the first Elimination bracket, there will be no rewards for winning these rounds. The losers will have another chance to fill the final five spots. There are twenty-two gladiators here from around the world. Only sixteen will pass the qualifying round, but only one will become champion. Gladiators, please take your places, the qualifying round will begin shortly!

Now I must decide if I really want to stream them on twitch or not, I'd like just a little more input before I make my decision.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 02:59:55 pm

Match II
-Steapa the Northman- Managed by foxtrot VS. -Sam Squatch- Managed by NAV


Ha HA HA!
Its been a while since I've killed a yeti!! I'm sure this will be a fight I shall remember!

*Also I vote no twitch, just good'ol gif with epic narrations :D*
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 03:01:16 pm
Let the trash talk commence!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 03:02:45 pm
Huzzah! Good luck Steapa, I look forward to facing your axe (sometime in the future)!

I vote gifs, or just epic narrations.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 03:03:05 pm
If you stream on twitch, I'll watch. :)

Also, BAT BOY IS GOING DOWN!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Desolate Domain on May 15, 2015, 03:06:57 pm
Portabelo shall feast on delicious gnome flesh!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 03:10:45 pm
I have a feeling that twitch is out, alright, that'll make it easier on me I think.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 03:15:49 pm
It would be kinda fun to see the combat logs, or at least hear a bit of them included in the narration. I'm fairly certain gifs are just going to show a few seconds of blood splatters and then a corpse.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 03:19:00 pm
Yep, I am certainly adding the logs in there as well. Worry not!

The first Quallifying match will begin soon. Gladiators, Varick and Hodekin, have you any words before the match?

Now that I think about it, I should probably just get on with it, these are only qualifiers. The match will begin and be posted shortly!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dibuk on May 15, 2015, 03:37:12 pm
Match VIV
-Asbjorn The Elf-Eater- Managed by Dibuk VS. -Cerol Chickenkicker- Managed by Baffler

"Asbjorn fight dwarf who fight chicken? Asbjorn will eat dwarf then chicken. Asbjorn was hoping for a challange but will settle for a happy belly. Asbjorn thinks maybe chicken bigger threat then dwarf."
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 03:45:06 pm
Qualifying Match I
Varick the Flighty VS. Hodekin the Legendary

   Welcome gladiators! It has been years since this tournament's last spotting, I brought it back from the pit it died in just for all of you. Right, our first match to qualify is between two Kobolds that rely on speed and finesse to get the job done. I must remind you that for these qualifying rounds I will not be giving a detailed commentation, rather letting the battle speak for itself. Without further a due, here is Varick the Flighty, and Hodekin the Legendary!

Varick is Kobold 2 on the right side, while Hodekin is Kobold 1 on the left.

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Brütal decapitation by Hodekin the Legendary! He is the first to win a spot in the Elimination Tourney. Well done gentlemen!
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 03:50:00 pm
Jolly good show! I love watching those little buggers go at each other. That .gif is so mesmerizing....
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Post by: alphawolf29 on May 15, 2015, 03:50:05 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7iBTstO.jpg)
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 03:51:13 pm
That was brutal knife play right there! :D

For a pair of kobolds...
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 03:52:21 pm
Now just to stitch Varick's head back on as he is going to get a second chance after these matches, along with the rest of the losers. Afterwards it is on to Steapa the Northman and Mister Sam Squatch duking it out.
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Post by: alphawolf29 on May 15, 2015, 03:58:20 pm
edit: nevermind =D
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Post by: _italics_ on May 15, 2015, 04:07:28 pm
Oh my, what a beautiful demonstration! Stab, dodge, dodge, chop!

Don't worry variablenonsense, I am sure my fellow kobold gladiator will secure a spot in the second elimination round.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:10:52 pm
Qualifying Match II
Steapa the Northman VS. Sam Squatch

   Ah, now that the Kobold viscera has been cleaned I welcome to the arena two great competitors from the far north of Canada! They've arrived here together, though they're far from allies, the buff and manly Steapa the Northman and the racially confused Sam Squatch the Yeti!

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Right out of the gate Steapa had done well to topple the gigantic Yeti. However he truly underestimated his opponent's strength. Sam did not celebrate, no, he seems rather remorseful. Don't worry Sam, with a snap of the finger I'll bring him back!
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Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 04:15:06 pm
Nooo ! Sssssteapa ! Now I have to eat the yeti to taste him !
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:15:55 pm
HAHAhahaha....

Well fought, Sam, it was truly a fight i would've remembered, if my head had not exploded :D

But I will fight you again soon enough, that im sure >: D
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:17:44 pm
Nooo ! Sssssteapa ! Now I have to eat the yeti to taste him !

Good luck with that one Pliskin


You dirty vermin of plague
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:19:05 pm
Heh heh, just so everyone knows, the match-ups are on the first page in the qualifier spoiler.
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Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 04:19:40 pm
Yay! Hooray for yetibro!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:25:23 pm
Right, that brings us to Crush the Crusher and Hugh Mann the Dabbler which will begin shortly.
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 04:27:37 pm
Wow, the start of the battle looked like a clean victory for Steapa, but then Sam seemed to gain a second wind with his words "Our time in the arena is so brief! Begone fear!" I did not expect that.

Good match to both of you!

By the way, do not underestimate Crush's maul. I was running a few test-battles and he consistently beat other fighters to a pulp. My bet is on Crush, but from my experience, The Dabbler fights surprisingly well.
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:36:26 pm
THE FIRST DEATH OF STEAPA

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And hopefully my last :P
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:37:29 pm
Qualifying Match III
Crush the Crusher VS. Hugh Mann the Dabbler

There are many fighters who may surprise you with their skill and masterful execution of techniques. Hugh Mann is not one of those folks, he wandered into the arena to face one of the most terrifying foes, Crush the Crusher. Hugh is adequate at just about everything, but will his combined experience be enough?

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ooh, 'fraid not, better luck in the losers bracket Hugh. At least you were quick to get the first shot?
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 04:37:53 pm

THE FIRST DEATH OF STEAPA

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That's super cool. Also FTFY.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:38:57 pm
Brütal
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Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 04:39:02 pm
Th-that fanart. It's beautiful.

I'm surprised that the kobolds met up in the first round. Maybe the RNG gods couldn't stand the thought of multiple 'bolds in the elimination tourney proper. :P

Huzzah! On with the brutality! And no worries, I'm sure Varick's head will stitch on decently enough. 'Bolds are resilient little buggers.  ;D
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:39:28 pm

THE FIRST DEATH OF STEAPA

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's super cool. Also FTFY.

Oh thanks man! I didnt know how to not make it need a scrollbar :D
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:44:17 pm
I'll post any media you guys create in the second post on the first page. So anyone can see it coming in!
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:46:19 pm
Good Idea! :D
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 04:46:56 pm
You're welcome, foxtrot. Also, my money's on Ina for this one, though it'll be more of a match.
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:51:26 pm
You're welcome, foxtrot. Also, my money's on Ina for this one, though it'll be more of a match.

But Batboy's got that flying :/ so I can agree this will be a longer match! :)
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 04:54:08 pm
Oh right, I forgot to say that I'll allow the bat to be kept as is, but I removed the flying tag due to the fact that it might be rather over powered. I shall post the match soon.
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 04:55:15 pm
Oh right, I forgot to say that I'll allow the bat to be kept as is, but I removed the flying tag due to the fact that it might be rather over powered. I shall post the match soon.

Ohh  :o Ok then this will be interesting :D
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 04:56:04 pm
Oh right, I forgot to say that I'll allow the bat to be kept as is, but I removed the flying tag due to the fact that it might be rather over powered. I shall post the match soon.
Well, uh. Unless he get some really good hits in, he's completely screwed. Thogam is in danger...
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Post by: Baffler on May 15, 2015, 04:58:37 pm
Match VIV
-Asbjorn The Elf-Eater- Managed by Dibuk VS. -Cerol Chickenkicker- Managed by Baffler

Oh crap I got the minotaur I ain't afraid of ye, ya stupid cow! I cut up bigger steers for dinner with duller blades than this!

This should be a quick fight an interesting match.
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 05:12:20 pm
A mere yeti is no match for the Prince.
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Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 05:17:07 pm
Prince of Snacks! Comes with iron dental floss for yeti teeth care! Thats a royal service!  ;)
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 05:18:57 pm
The Banter is real!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:20:54 pm
Forgive the delay, I had to edit some raws in order to create wooden armour in the arena for Ina. Now that that is finished I will be posting the fight soon.
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 05:22:35 pm
Actually, I ran some fights with Orthus the Manflayer vs. Cerol, and the dwarf was surprisingly powerful.

Of course, not powerful enough to defeat Orthus!
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 05:30:01 pm
If it pleases you, Bax can floss the monster's teeth with his scourge before mounting the yeti skull upon his throne as a trophy.
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Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 05:31:00 pm
Crush proud of proper crushing of enemy.
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Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 05:34:28 pm
Bax is 2000 years too young to claim a yeti kill! It will please me to see goblin leather pants on my yeti!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:39:24 pm
Qualifying Match IV
Ina the Tall VS. Wuce Brayne

Sorry for the delay everyone! Ina, in true elven fashion took forever to get dressed up. Well now the tall elf faces a creature, half man, half bat. Back home Wuce is a crime fighting vigilante and master martial artist. He has come to show what he is made of. Lets find out!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

It would seem that I've forgot to tell Wuce not to fly, oh well no harm done. Well other than to Ina's manhood, if you could call it that ha! This forced the elf into a desperate rage. We can see that these two competitors were evenly matched, however the neutered elf won out the day. Well done! Never have I seen an elf bring up such a powerful rage!
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Post by: NAV on May 15, 2015, 05:40:06 pm
THE FIRST DEATH OF STEAPA

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And hopefully my last :P
:D :D :D :D :D
Awesome!

Great fight, you were a worthy opponent.
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 05:42:13 pm
Bax promises to leave his leather pants on his new yeti rug when he retires each night.
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 05:44:21 pm
Othrus will flay both your hides!
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 05:45:33 pm
Damn that was a long battle :D

Well done elf :)
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:47:17 pm
Yep, don't know if ther'll be another long battle like that one. Next up is Orthus the Manflayer and One Bow Juan, who happens to be a fungus.
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 05:48:06 pm
Also at the end of the qualifying rounds, are the losers allowed to change some of they're skills? :D
Or is it winners only? :)
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 05:49:08 pm
Qualifying Match IV
Ina the Tall VS. Wuce Brayne

Sorry for the delay everyone! Ina, in true elven fashion took forever to get dressed up. Well now the tall elf faces a creature, half man, half bat. Back home Wuce is a crime fighting vigilante and master martial artist. He has come to show what he is made of. Lets find out!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

It would seem that I've forgot to tell Wuce not to fly, oh well no harm done. Well other than to Ina's manhood, if you could call it that ha! This forced the elf into a desperate rage. We can see that these two competitors were evenly matched, however the neutered elf won out the day. Well done! Never have I seen an elf bring up such a powerful rage!

Nat 20 to punch the elf's dick off. Well done!

Othrus will flay both your hides!

I wish you luck on your next battle so that you may fall to Bax in the arena.
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Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 05:49:21 pm
Wait, why does Ina have a wooden sword. Oh well, he is an elf after all. But I'd like my steel sword in the tournament please. :P

Edit: We can sew that back on right?
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 05:49:41 pm
What is this fungal abomination? Nevermind his putrid hide! Othrus will devour the creature whole!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:50:04 pm
The qualifying rounds have no rewards other than winning a spot in the elimination bracket. There will be no changes in skills or equipment until that point. Sorry, what you got is what you got.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:51:34 pm
Wait, why does Ina have a wooden sword. Oh well, he is an elf after all. But I'd like my steel sword in the tournament please. :P

Edit: We can sew that back on right?

Well that was a big mistake! Holy moly, I'm sorry. The whole time I was handling him, what with the raw changes and stuff. I was convinced he was clad in full wooden gear. I am again, very sorry.

Yes, yes. I tell you I'm a wonderful surgeon!
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 05:53:47 pm
Ninja'd
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 05:54:02 pm
Yes, yes. I tell you I'm a wonderful surgeon!

Yes but are you Legendary V?

(ps: Is it actually possible for a doctor to fix that injury in-game?)
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 05:55:19 pm
No, he means Ina had a steel sword in his original loadout. Here:

That first message was to Foxtrot.
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 05:56:22 pm
No, he means Ina had a steel sword in his original loadout. Here:

That first message was to Foxtrot.
Never mind, then.
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Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 05:57:22 pm
The elf was clearly saved by the oak helmet. If the bat had a weapon..
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Post by: _italics_ on May 15, 2015, 06:05:22 pm
Can be surprisingly hard to bash someone's head in, unless you're a Yeti of course.
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Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 06:07:03 pm
I'll post any media you guys create in the second post on the first page. So anyone can see it coming in!

Sssssweet ! That way the gloriouss warsong of the ssssserpent folk can be heard by everyone !
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Post by: Avis-Mergulus on May 15, 2015, 06:09:31 pm
Hey Unraveller, you can resize images with tags like [img height=600] or whatever number. It's just that the fan art is a bit too large for most screens.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 06:24:51 pm
Qualifying Match V
Orthus the Manflayer VS. One Bow Juan

Well well, the very last gladiator to arrive, says he was late tanning a hide. Apparently the human leather armour he is wearing is fresh, great. His opponent is One Bow Juan, son of the legendary fungus Two Bow Joe, as long as his aim is true than this beast will come down quickly!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
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A shame, Juan's aim was not true enough, all he needed was an arrow to one of Orthu's mighty legs to chip the bone. Alas, perhaps Portabelo shall avenge you Juan?
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 06:27:23 pm
Hey Unraveller, you can resize images with tags like [img height=600] or whatever number. It's just that the fan art is a bit too large for most screens.

Thank you, they've been fixed.
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Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 06:29:53 pm
Isn't the plump helmet men's head very big? Quite the feat to decapitate one with a punch.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 06:33:53 pm
Indeed! Our next match to go on to the elimination bracket is between Mon-tha-mau and the stinkiest goblin around, lord Bax!
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 06:35:32 pm
Hah! Death can NEVER horrify Othrus the Manflayer!

Good game Juan! Hopefully you'll still make it! You'll probably do a lot better on Vertigo or Water Hazard where you have more time to aim.
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Post by: variablenonsense on May 15, 2015, 06:36:17 pm
Plump helmet stew for everyone!

 :P
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Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 06:38:02 pm
My coins are on Bax, but the next fight could go either way!
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 06:38:23 pm
Bring the blood!
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Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 06:39:56 pm
Bring the goblin!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 06:46:44 pm
Qualifying Match VI
Mon-tha-mau VS. Bax the Prince of the Land of Stench

Well that sure is a mouthful, and by just being around the cretin you get a noseful of horrid odor, eyuk. His challenger is Mon-tha-mau cousin of Sam Squatch, a social outcast in his family unfortunately. Hoping to win their attention he has come to the arena! Let there be blood!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ooh, Mon was unable to land a hit on the deft Bax, perhaps he was distracted by the goblins repulsive stench. In any case the lashing of Mon lasted until his brain was tortured to death. May he redeem himself in the loser's bracket!
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Post by: angrykitteh on May 15, 2015, 06:49:52 pm
Filthy goblin!  >:(
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 06:52:58 pm
Well.. I'm guessing your not just a prince for no reason :o
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 06:54:14 pm
Prince or not, Orthus can out-lash him any day!
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 07:09:41 pm
Not even a scratch!

Best of luck to Mon-tha-mau in his redemption match.

Prince or not, Orthus can out-lash him any day!

Bax accepts Orthus' challenge.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 07:10:29 pm
Qualifying Match VII
Expedia the Terrible VS. Portabelo the Delicious

A bout between two rather tiny individuals, one is a gnome from a deep dark mountain pit. The other, a sentient fungus with an artifact of pure candy, truly the most dangerous weapon we've seen in the arena so far. Will the lashing gnome be able to withstand being poked by such a sharp object? Let us find out!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
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An excellent maneuver from out lasher! Disarming an enemy with such a dangerous weapon is truly a clever move, it might not have gone as well if Expedia hadn't pulled that one off! The Plump Helmet Men sure have their work cut out for them if they wish to proceed to the Elimination round!
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Post by: Desolate Domain on May 15, 2015, 07:14:13 pm
Dang! That is one skillful gnome.
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 07:15:10 pm
That's the most ferocious mushroom I've ever seen.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 07:28:16 pm
Only four matches left in this qualifying round! Next up are two equally sized creatures, both mischievous little buggers.
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 15, 2015, 07:30:48 pm
Will we break after the qualification rounds and resume tomorrow, or continue? I'm not sure what time zones you all are on but it's nearly nighttime here, and you know what they say about traveling alone at night.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 07:35:49 pm
I'll likely finish up the first round of qualification and finish it tomorrow. And I'd like to begin the Elimination round tomorrow.
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Post by: Tavern on May 15, 2015, 07:38:32 pm
Can't wait for Shotgun's fight, sorry foxtrot but it looks like I'm getting the first shot at Plisskin >:D
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 07:41:22 pm
Qualifying Match VIII
Mogwai the Devious VS. Narhtan the Crundle Bundle

Yet another match of small bodies and sharp wits. Magwai the gremlin enters the fray with his two bronze daggers, hoping to stick the crundle whose brought along a whip. This battle may prove to be evenly matched. Let it begin!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

The two small fries dance around one another, neither conceding an inch. Lashing out at each other not a single blow connects, that is until the devious Mogwai distracts Narhtan by pointing and saying, "Look over there." A backstab later and we have our winner.
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 07:46:34 pm
Another well matched fight! :D
Congrats sneaky gremlin! But your dodging wont save you from my axe once we meet!
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Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 07:49:49 pm
Can't wait for Shotgun's fight, sorry foxtrot but it looks like I'm getting the first shot at Plisskin >:D

I'm already sssalivating (or is it venomating?) little human !

That last kill by the gremlin was smooth.
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 07:50:07 pm
Another well matched fight! :D
Congrats sneaky gremlin! But your dodging wont save you from my axe once if we meet!

There, I fixed that for you. LOSER!
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Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 07:55:09 pm
I'll likely finish up the first round of qualification and finish it tomorrow. And I'd like to begin the Elimination round tomorrow.

I'd like to request Bax vs Orthus as the first elimination match!
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Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 08:02:07 pm
Another well matched fight! :D
Congrats sneaky gremlin! But your dodging wont save you from my axe once if we meet!

There, I fixed that for you. LOSER!

LOL :D
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Post by: Baffler on May 15, 2015, 08:07:07 pm
Come on Chickenkicker, I believe in you! please at least put up a fight before you get flattened...
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 08:09:17 pm
Qualifying Match VIV
Asbjorn The Elf-Eater VS. Cerol Chickenkicker

A trio of minotaurs have come to this arena, each incredibly powerful monstrosities. Asbjorn is no different, his hobbies include eating elves,
dwarves, humans, and playing golf. Can the stout dwarf wielding naught but a steel dagger even hope to survive this battle? Shall we find out?

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Such ferocity for one faced with such an enormous foe, Asbjorn greatly underestimated the chicken kicker and thus was his down fall. Cerol proves that size does not matter with his skillful victory!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 08:12:05 pm
I'll likely finish up the first round of qualification and finish it tomorrow. And I'd like to begin the Elimination round tomorrow.

I'd like to request Bax vs Orthus as the first elimination match!

I'd like to leave it up to chance if you don't mind. We shall see what happens.

Everyone must be in awe seeing Cerol win, that's why they aren't talking.
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Post by: DS on May 15, 2015, 08:23:21 pm
Come on Myrma! You can do it! For the hive!
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Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 08:27:50 pm
The ssssnakes will prevail ! Sssslippery d'Ssssnek should fall only to the mighty Plissskin !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 08:29:01 pm
Qualifying Match X
Slippery d'Snek VS. Myrma the Defi-ant

Welcome both of you! Two gladiators from deep subterranean caverns here tonight, Slippery plans to use his warhammer to crush the thorax of Myrma. However she boasts that her four-point defense is impenetrable! Should be an interesting match up!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

The two trade blows, bashing metal upon each other. Myrma's leg is snapped in twain, however she keeps her resolve and mercilessly pounds her wall of shields down unto the serpent who falls victim to her onslaught a pile of gore. Excellent fight!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 08:30:55 pm
Snake ? Snake ? Snaaaaaaake !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 08:31:32 pm
I'll likely finish up the first round of qualification and finish it tomorrow. And I'd like to begin the Elimination round tomorrow.

I'd like to request Bax vs Orthus as the first elimination match!

I'd like to leave it up to chance if you don't mind. We shall see what happens.

Everyone must be in awe seeing Cerol win, that's why they aren't talking.

Curse the gods of chance!

It was definitely an unexpected victory by Cerol.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 08:34:35 pm
We've one more match in the qualifiers!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 08:35:44 pm
Yesss ! Bring me that delicious sack of blood !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 15, 2015, 08:37:08 pm
It was definitely an unexpected victory by Cerol.

I dunno about all that.... Shields OP as hell, once he starts improving woth more points he'll be untouchable. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins the whole thing with shield spam :/
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 08:39:31 pm
Shi
It was definitely an unexpected victory by Cerol.

I dunno about all that.... Shields OP as hell, once he starts improving woth more points he'll be untouchable. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins the whole thing with shield spam :/

Shields are powerful, but whips are nasty too. I think we can still be surprised.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 08:46:00 pm
It was definitely an unexpected victory by Cerol.

I dunno about all that.... Shields OP as hell, once he starts improving woth more points he'll be untouchable. Wouldn't be surprised if he wins the whole thing with shield spam :/

Myrma is the one to worry about when it comes to shields.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 15, 2015, 08:48:32 pm
What a battle!

Quote from: Myrma
"I've been injured badly. I will not lose hope."

So inspirational!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 08:54:06 pm
Aww, I missed Hugh's first battle. Nice job, Crush! You were a great opponent. I'll make sure to bring the tomatoes next time I see you. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:02:27 pm
Qualifying Match XI
Shotgun Gai VS. Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient

Gai hails all the way from that wacky land the Coalition of Pearls! He brought along his famous greatsword as well as the trademarked carved gauntlet, can he put down and send the last serpent who appears weaponless? Perhaps not, the creature has leathal fangs and venom even more so, this could prove difficult for Gai.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Alas, it was over in but a single bite. Pliskin's paralytic venom flew throughout Gai's body in a heartbeat. Rendering the human useless. Ugh, we're subjected to watch the serpent devour the poor man's carcass.

Well! Thus ends the first Qualifying Round our winners are:
-Hodekin the Legendary- Managed by _Italics_
-Sam Squatch- Managed by NAV
-Crush the Crusher- Managed by kiershar
-Ina the Tall- Managed by xub313
-Orthus the Manflayer- Managed by Rero Falcon
-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan
-Expedia The Terrible- Managed by Old-Gregg
-Mogwai the Devious- Managed by Elagn
-Cerol Chickenkicker- Managed by Baffler
-Myrma the Defi-ant- Managed by DS
-Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient- Managed by Tesseract

They shall take eleven of the sixteen spots in our first Elimination round! Those who have lost will all receive a second chance to redeem themselves. Thus follows the line up for tomorrow's second Qualifying round!

Match I
-Narhtan the Crundle Bundle- Managed by nate.219 VS. -Steapa the Northman- Managed by foxtrot

Match II
-Varick the Flighty- Managed by variablenonsense VS. -Asbjorn The Elf-Eater- Managed by Dibuk

Match III
-One Bow Juan- Managed by Wheelo VS. -Mon-tha-mau- Managed by angrykitteh

Match IV
-Slippery d'Snek- Managed by alphawolf29 VS. -Hugh Mann the Dabbler- Managed by Wofi

Match V
-Wuce Brayne- Managed by Ambrosia VS. -Portabelo the Delicious- Managed by Desolate Domain
VS.
-Shotgun Gai- Managed by Tavern

Thank you!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 09:06:46 pm
That snake venom is more potent than I thought...

Anyway, is the three way battle going to be a free for all or a round robin?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:08:00 pm
That snake venom is more potent than I thought...

Anyway, is the three way battle going to be a free for all or a round robin?

Free-for-all so I don't have to keep track of another format, hope that is all right.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 09:09:07 pm
Ouh, that fight was brutal. It's not looking good for Hugh. Also, why does he have to fight Kin? I kind of like Kin. :( *ahem* Anyways, good job Pliskin and everyone else! May you meet victory! Except Crush. I'm still bringing the tomatoes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 09:10:23 pm
Free-for-all so I don't have to keep track of another format, hope that is all right.

That's fine. Whatever works for you. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 09:11:35 pm
Shotgun Gai wasss delicioussss !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 09:12:49 pm
Shotgun Gai wasss delicioussss !

Tell me about it. Don't you love eating your fallen enemies. ;)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:13:13 pm
Well now that that is over. What did everyone think? An enjoyable little game? I know I had fun.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 09:14:25 pm
Shotgun Gai wasss delicioussss !

Yeah, I hope it was worth it. Now snakes are going to eat me in my nightmares. :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 15, 2015, 09:18:19 pm
It's an interesting and enjoyable concept. I can't wait to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 09:21:34 pm
Well, I certainly enjoyed myself ! Can't wait for the next fights ! Around what time will it start tomorrow ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:23:27 pm
Possibly anytime from 9:00 to 12 A.M. EST.

Oh, I've improved a map to better reflect its name!
Spoiler: Heat Stroke (click to show/hide)

Gotta love magma pits!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 09:23:49 pm
I really liked it!! :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:31:12 pm
You know, I never expected this to garner so much attention so quickly. This topic has been here for about 34 hours and we already have roughly twenty pages! I'll be glad to do this monthly, hopefully it would grow even more as it goes on!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 09:34:46 pm
I like the new version of Heat Stroke. It's good that it's more compact, but it's disappointing that it has significantly magma. Maybe have a magma moat around the edge?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:35:22 pm
That could work! I'll get on it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:40:56 pm
So how do you feel about this:
Spoiler: Heat Stroke (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 15, 2015, 09:41:16 pm
That looks epic!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 09:42:25 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 09:42:43 pm
Ditto.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 09:45:41 pm
I too like the new map. On the original, the exposition to magma would have been unlikely. It might be hard to design, but it would be cool to have magma falling on grates, generating magma mist. Or traps ? I have no idea of the limitations of arena design.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 09:59:44 pm
I too like the new map. On the original, the exposition to magma would have been unlikely. It might be hard to design, but it would be cool to have magma falling on grates, generating magma mist. Or traps ? I have no idea of the limitations of arena design.

Very limited - Take a look (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Object_testing_arena#Modifying_the_Arena_layout)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 15, 2015, 10:05:10 pm
Oh, I see. I never even used that mode. I'll probably have to, if I want to train efficient warriors !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 15, 2015, 10:26:31 pm
These fights were awesome. Its is a great Tournament, and I'm glad it has plentiful participation.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Baffler on May 15, 2015, 10:36:33 pm
Ooh, that's looking good. That magma ought to be quite the hazard set between the combatants like that, should make for some tense matches. And the fights have been great so far. I'm amazed at how close the match between Cerol and The Elf-Eater was, and how potent that serpent man venom really is.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 15, 2015, 10:40:45 pm
These fights were awesome. Its is a great Tournament, and I'm glad it has plentiful participation.

As am I chum, I'm really glad that I haven't screwn up this tournament and that you peoples are enjoying it. I'm planning on doing one or two more stages if I get around to it, any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 11:23:39 pm
Good fight Hugh, Crush will carry a scar on his arm for a long time. Sorry for your head.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 15, 2015, 11:37:58 pm
Unraveller, It looks like you forgot to include variablenonsense's awesome Vadrick drawing in the fan art section. :)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 15, 2015, 11:49:40 pm
Good fight Hugh, Crush will carry a scar on his arm for a long time. Sorry for your head.

Now I'm gonna have to buy Hugh a new skull. And a new arm. Those are expensive!

Good fight, though. I hope Crush is allergic to tomatoes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 15, 2015, 11:54:28 pm
I'm sure you can find proper replacement in the refuse pile.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Zach538 on May 16, 2015, 12:16:22 am
Karban Thunderhorn
Minotaur
140 points
Skills
Fighter adequate 9 pts.
Striker Proficient 60 pts.

Equipment
Bronze Halberd 60 pts.
Copper Gauntlets 10 pts
Total 139 pts

Just realized the tournament already started. oh well hopefully i can get in next time :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: alphawolf29 on May 16, 2015, 12:28:02 am
Wow damn I thought that first good strike in secured Slippery the victory! Unfortunately the 70 subsequent shield bashes to the head were too much....amazing fight either way, I'm happy with Slippery either way

Amazing tournament. DF 4 EVER
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: vityav on May 16, 2015, 12:35:18 am
This tournament is amazing. Thanks for running it, Unraveller!

As am I chum, I'm really glad that I haven't screwn up this tournament and that you peoples are enjoying it. I'm planning on doing one or two more stages if I get around to it, any suggestions?

I don't know how well it would lend itself to the 1-Z level camera, but I always liked the fighting games where you could knock your opponent off an edge and down onto a lower platform, then continue the fight there.

Another idea: Water sources lining both/all sides of the arena constantly forcing everything towards a chasm, so if anyone is knocked off their feet they're swept away. (I was trying to think of something to create a constantly buffeting wave-pool in the arena, but I don't see any toggle-able features)

Edit: Some testing later shows that chasms don't work how I thought they did, and water sources have to be on an edge. I built a large water spout 3 levels up and had them start fighting on it. One threw the other off the slippery ledge by the foot, dove in after (I think), and then they both drowned. Will continue testing.

Edit 2: Put a large floor surrounded by fortifications under the "faucet". The fight inevitably ends up with people being thrown onto this floor, where either the water runs red with the blood of victory, or someone gets thrown through a fortification and drowns. Either way, success. Getting late so throwing progress so far on pastebin. I'm sure someone else can make it more elegant, if it's something you'd want to use: http://pastebin.com/Hi2dxPKf (http://pastebin.com/Hi2dxPKf) . Look in the lower left corner a few levels up, and just spawn fighters in that flume.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 06:58:45 am
Ahhh, I'm loving these matches.

Honestly I wouldn't mind running one myself sometime, if it's this popular, since Unraveller mentioned only doing one a month.

And since I saw someone mention it last page, you're right, my art was missing from the front. In the meantime I decided to go ahead and take the sketch and work on it more, so have the original sketch of Varick and a colored version. I don't think anyone should be offended by me not having his outfit done...

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:20:25 am
Aw man, I love the artwork and non-tradition Kobold look. The only thing I would say about running these is that I feel like putting a month in between gives everyone that little bit of anticipation and gives a good break between them. See if it were every week or as soon as the last one was done, it'd probably begin to drag on and die out quicker. At least that is my understanding.

This tournament is amazing. Thanks for running it, Unraveller!

As am I chum, I'm really glad that I haven't screwn up this tournament and that you peoples are enjoying it. I'm planning on doing one or two more stages if I get around to it, any suggestions?

I don't know how well it would lend itself to the 1-Z level camera, but I always liked the fighting games where you could knock your opponent off an edge and down onto a lower platform, then continue the fight there.

Another idea: Water sources lining both/all sides of the arena constantly forcing everything towards a chasm, so if anyone is knocked off their feet they're swept away. (I was trying to think of something to create a constantly buffeting wave-pool in the arena, but I don't see any toggle-able features)

Edit: Some testing later shows that chasms don't work how I thought they did, and water sources have to be on an edge. I built a large water spout 3 levels up and had them start fighting on it. One threw the other off the slippery ledge by the foot, dove in after (I think), and then they both drowned. Will continue testing.

Edit 2: Put a large floor surrounded by fortifications under the "faucet". The fight inevitably ends up with people being thrown onto this floor, where either the water runs red with the blood of victory, or someone gets thrown through a fortification and drowns. Either way, success. Getting late so throwing progress so far on pastebin. I'm sure someone else can make it more elegant, if it's something you'd want to use: http://pastebin.com/Hi2dxPKf (http://pastebin.com/Hi2dxPKf) . Look in the lower left corner a few levels up, and just spawn fighters in that flume.

Now I may just be dumb, but how exactly is it supposed to work? I've spawned gladiators in the fortification walled in floor, but no water ever flows onto it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 07:36:41 am
That's true I suppose. I was thinking more bi-weekly, because two weeks is still a decently long amount of time without a full month, but I suppose a month isn't that long.  :D

Also, thanks!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 08:11:20 am
Although I would love to see more tournaments, I agree that bi-weekly or monthly is a good idea. It allows for a lot of anticipation, and thus more attention.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:25:19 am
Well, I have been planning on doing it monthly. But that certainly doesn't mean that anyone cannot host one whenever they want. I believe they should just keep in mind that having the tournaments so close together isn't that great of an idea. Perhaps a team tournament would be interesting!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 16, 2015, 08:54:19 am
Oh yeah! Team tournament would be a great fun!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 09:25:20 am
If you wanted some kind of schedule on it, what about a bi-weekly alternating tournament sort? Of course, I don't want to stop anyone else from organizing one, but that seems like it would be a good balance of anticipation and participation, if enough people enjoy coming up with new builds.

What I mean is like:

Week 1 of month: Individual elim tourney.

Week 3 of month: Team tourney?

I thought about suggesting round robin but that would take a while, so that would kinda be up to the organizer, but just alternating team and individuals might work pretty well.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 09:39:21 am
It is a great idea, and I certainly wouldn't stop anyone from organizing it, though I wouldn't want to host it. I'd rather just spend the one week on my monthly single elimination tourney and have the rest of the month to do other things.

With that said, if anyone were to organize a team tournament, I'll happily corroborate and aid them in anyway possible.

I'd like to begin the losers qualifiers in an hour or so.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 11:21:08 am
I think that monthly is enough for the "official" tournament. That way we have time to anticipate, test some builds, etc.

It could be cool to sometimes impose restrictions, for example, having large beasts only tournaments, or with specific weapons, or even random things !

Edit: Is it possible to expand the available creatures to have a divers pool to chose from ? I like the idea of having to chose from a different roster each time.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 11:29:10 am
What about a tournament with a massive amount of points, where you purchase multiple gladiators, and possibly large beats? Like, army vs. army. I'm not sure how well that would work due to retarded AI, but it might be fun to try.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 11:39:28 am
I think that monthly is enough for the "official" tournament. That way we have time to anticipate, test some builds, etc.

It could be cool to sometimes impose restrictions, for example, having large beasts only tournaments, or with specific weapons, or even random things !

Edit: Is it possible to expand the available creatures to have a divers pool to chose from ? I like the idea of having to chose from a different roster each time.

Different restrictions and modes are a wonderful idea, but would they be welcome in the 'official' tournament? Or simple for side tourneys hosted by others?

Can you explain what you mean by a divers pool? Not sure I'm following you there.

What about a tournament with a massive amount of points, where you purchase multiple gladiators, and possibly large beats? Like, army vs. army. I'm not sure how well that would work due to retarded AI, but it might be fun to try.

It could work, but at that point I believe building such stuff would become too complex for its own good, the system would probably haave to be reworked in some areas for that.

I'll be posting the first Loser's Qualifier in a moment.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 11:43:57 am
Diverse pool. I suck at typing and at speaking english !

For example, tournament 2, we can choose between yeti, human, drawf and elephant. Tournament 3, we have elf, ant-lady, bee and forgotten beast to choose from.

Except with more, less silly, choices.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 11:45:33 am
Diverse pool. I suck at typing and at speaking english !

For example, tournament 2, we can choose between yeti, human, drawf and elephant. Tournament 3, we have elf, ant-lady, bee and forgotten beast to choose from.

Except with more, less silly, choices.

Wouldn't that be less diverse? Since you gave fewer options? Maybe I'm just stupid.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 11:54:53 am
Loser's Qualifiers, Match I
Narhtan the Crundle Bundle VS. Steapa the Northman

Welcome back gladiators, I trust that you've all had a decent rest, hmm? Well we are moving on to the second qualfying round, those who have lost in the first are back to redeem themselves! Up now is Narhtan who fell prey to Mogwai's devious trick in the first round and the Northman who wishes to go on to the elimination round and meet Pliskin in combat! Let us see who wins out the day!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Well, wouldn't you know it! Sometimes the little guys just surprise you. Steapa went in for his foot chop of doom, however he seemed unaware that a crundle could pack such a wallop! Falling unconscious after having his bone chipped, Narhtan wasted no time and brained the fool.
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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 11:59:41 am
What I mean is, say we have a total of N creatures to choose from. At every tournament, M (with M < N) are selected at random. There would be less choice at each individual tournament, but each tournament would be different from the others.

But maybe it's not such a good idea, maybe just let everything available is better.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:05:31 pm
What I mean is, say we have a total of N creatures to choose from. At every tournament, M (with M < N) are selected at random. There would be less choice at each individual tournament, but each tournament would be different from the others.

But maybe it's not such a good idea, maybe just let everything available is better.

Ah, that makes sense, so as to have a more diverse cast throughout each tournament, that is a good idea. Though I don't know how well it really fits for this sort of thing. I'd like to include more races, though I have nearly every humanoid already on there. There is the possibility to mod in new races.

I'll think on it!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: vityav on May 16, 2015, 12:08:57 pm
Now I may just be dumb, but how exactly is it supposed to work? I've spawned gladiators in the fortification walled in floor, but no water ever flows onto it.

I'm not sure why you wouldn't get water flow, but here's what it looks like for me:
Spoiler: Image (click to show/hide)

On the left, in the faucet thing, is where I start them, and on the right is the level below with the fortifications where they inevitably end up fighting. It certainly needs a lot of improvement to be a gladiatorial combat arena (almost too easy to get thrown through a fortification and drown), but I thought it was an interesting proof of concept for the style.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:18:13 pm
It was actually due to the way that I got it off of pastebin. It works now! And I do like the concept quite a bit. By the next tournament it shall be another stage, after a little sprucing up. Thanks for that!

Next up we've got another match of David and Goliath, Kobold and Minotaur!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 12:24:36 pm
I'm honestly scared by the whip guys and the quadra-shield ant-woman. That last fight was brutal. I was really hoping that Pliskin would get a taste of Steapa. I'm going to have to settle for Crundle Bites.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 12:27:11 pm
Was the bug where whips punched through armor like butter ever fixed?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 12:28:03 pm
I don't think so!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 12:29:34 pm
Hmm, maybe that's something to consider as a restriction for the next tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:30:52 pm
Loser's Qualifiers, Match II
Varick the Flighty VS. Asbjorn The Elf-Eater

Gladiator's! Turn your attention to the arena where you'll see one of the tiniest of fellows face off against one of the largest and meanest! Varick was defeated in the very first match by another Kobold, can he make up for it today? And Asbjorn was embarrassed to lose to a stout little dwarf named Chickenkicker! Who will redeem themselves? Let us find out!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Freakin' Brütal this little Kobold lived up to his name, leaping into the air and bringing down sweet separation! Both of Asbjorn's arms were severed clean off, the poor bastard, he'll never be able to show his face back home! Looks like it's the little guys you need to look out for!
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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:32:37 pm
At the very least, whips might need a higher cost to compensate.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 12:38:13 pm
Excellent displays by Narhtan and Varick. This looks like a good day for the underdogs.

At the very least, whips might need a higher cost to compensate.

Scourges might need to be included in that, too.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:43:14 pm
Right, scourges as well. After this tournament is over I'll count up statistics on which weapons caused the most deaths and such as well as scan over the battle logs. We shall see.

Up next we've a mushroom and yeti. I have nothing humorous to say about that.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 16, 2015, 12:50:27 pm
Holy molly! That bull was 11 times his weight! :o
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 12:57:39 pm
Loser's Qualifiers, Match III
One Bow Juan VS. Mon-tha-mau

Earlier in the first round Juan was devoured whole by the Manflayer, while Mon was knocked out by the stinkiest goblin whose ever lived, now they're up against each other to see who'll go on to get their revenge. Lets go!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

It does seem like this is a round for the underdogs! This time Juan's aim was steady and true, first placing a shot in the mouth of the charging yeti, who attempted to pump himself up with resolve. However it didn't do much good, as the chipping bone was too much for him to bear, now he is a pincushion.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 16, 2015, 12:59:25 pm
Wow, I thought this was an older thread by the page count, fun stuff!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:00:26 pm
Wow, I thought this was an older thread by the page count, fun stuff!

Believe me, I was incredibly surprised how quickly this grew.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 16, 2015, 01:05:32 pm
I saw "May 15 2013" at first because my eyes autocorrected the 2015/7 pages, what a trip.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 16, 2015, 01:06:54 pm
Oh, no!  >:( Go Sam! Avenge your yetibro!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 01:07:55 pm
Wow, those matches were great. Both arms? Eugh.

I'm still sort of confident Hugh will win!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:08:59 pm
Well now that you're here, welcome! This is just a little bit of info for anyone unaware; the second post on the first page has links to all the matches so far in the Qualifying spoilers.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 01:13:08 pm
Holy cobra ! That mushroom could be a real problem ! Arrows in the teeth ! That could make the venom delivery a bit harder.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:18:20 pm
Loser's Qualifiers, Match IV
Slippery d'Snek VS. Hugh Mann the Dabbler

Speaking of underdogs! We've got Hugh Mann, the underdog's underdog. But I suppose anyone can surprise us as we've seen thus far. Though he faces Slippery d'Snek, and though this serpent fell to the Defi-Ant he is not to be trifled with. Let us see what they can do!

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Hugh's combined experience does him no good, with an onslaught of furious attacks from his wooden stick he is unable to land a blow on that slippery snake. Unfortunately it ends as was expected, and now both of the insidious serpents have advanced to the elimination round!.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 01:20:23 pm
It was inevitable.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 16, 2015, 01:21:29 pm
He aaalmost reached that tasty morsel in time... but then he was punctured by ten steel arrows
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 01:24:27 pm
Darn. Good fight, though. Now I have to buy more tomatoes! :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 01:35:00 pm
Don't mess with the mushroom men.

So there's just one more battle in the qualifying round, correct! Unraveller, do you plan on continuing on with the first round of eliminations today, or will you wait until tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:40:07 pm
I'll probably proceed with the Eliminations after a short break, don't count on finishing them today however.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 01:43:03 pm
Cool! I can't wait to see the tournament brackets. Then the real kibitzing can begin.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:47:26 pm
Loser's Qualifiers, Match V
Wuce Brayne VS. Portabelo the Delicious VS. Shotgun Gai

Due to the odd number of gladiators, this final qualifying match will be a three-man brawl! The winner of which will go on to fill the final elimination round spot! We have Wuce Brayne, the vigilante from the dark caves of Togham, Portabelo the Delicious with his artifact of pure adamantite! And Shotgun Gai whose brought along his trademarks from the Coalition of Pearls. Lets begin shall we?

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

What a round! Shamefully the plump helmet man has never made a single hit with his spear in this entire tourney, he'll have to hope on Juan to bring home the gold. Wuce and Gai go at it afterwards, the former using his flight to stay above the human. However it isn't enough, due to one thrust into the heavens, Gai's sword slices through the bat's neck decapitating it! Brütal! The creature falls to the floor defeated, well done Gai!.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 01:51:32 pm
Well done, Well done! These gladiators will be going on to the Elimination Round, good luck out there!

-Hodekin the Legendary- Managed by _Italics_
-Sam Squatch- Managed by NAV
-Crush the Crusher- Managed by kiershar
-Ina the Tall- Managed by xub313
-Orthus the Manflayer- Managed by Rero Falcon
-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan
-Expedia The Terrible- Managed by Old-Gregg
-Mogwai the Devious- Managed by Elagn
-Cerol Chickenkicker- Managed by Baffler
-Myrma the Defi-ant- Managed by DS
-Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient- Managed by Tesseract
-Narhtan the Crundle Bundle- Managed by nate.219
-Varick the Flighty- Managed by variablenonsense
-One Bow Juan- Managed by Wheelo
-Slippery d'Snek- Managed by alphawolf29
-Shotgun Gai- Managed by Tavern
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 01:53:47 pm
Congrats to those who made it. I'm exited to see what the brackets look like.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 01:55:56 pm
Great! I can't wait to see the brackets!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 01:56:34 pm
You ssssay bracket, I ssssay menu !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dibuk on May 16, 2015, 01:59:51 pm
How come everyone else's silver warhammer worked but poor Asbjorn the armless could not even get through the skin of a kobolt.
Ah well skill before size.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 16, 2015, 02:01:35 pm
Ayyy, Shotgun (barely) made it! :D

So do we all get points to spend now or do they start to be given out after the first elimination round?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 02:03:48 pm
During the elimination round, if you win a match the points you currently have in reserve are doubled, you also gain a number of points equal to your race's starting value.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 02:07:21 pm
Can I change up Hugh's skills/equipment in preparation for the next tournament(s)?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 16, 2015, 02:12:20 pm
How come everyone else's silver warhammer worked but poor Asbjorn the armless could not even get through the skin of a kobolt.
Ah well skill before size.

I believe it was a grazing hit, but there's no text for that specifically.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 02:39:10 pm
Can I change up Hugh's skills/equipment in preparation for the next tournament(s)?

Of course! Seeing as he is no longer in this tournament, feel free to change him how you like.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 02:40:48 pm
Yes it looks horrible, yes it was on MS Paint, no I'm not a graphics designer. Deal with it!
I had to give everyone unique font, I just had to!

Spoiler: Tourney Bracket (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 16, 2015, 02:48:13 pm
Ohhh, poor Varick! variablenonsense, you have my condolences.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 02:49:41 pm
Plissskin is very sssatisssfied with hisss font !

But Crush the Crusher now look like one of the baddies from Running Man. Lucky guy !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 02:52:26 pm
It looks like Othrus will have a pair of snake skin gloves to wear soon! His vote is for Vertigo, although Klassic and peaceful meadow would also be fine.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 02:55:10 pm
That is right, Narhtan and Ina! I'll give a little bit of time for you guys to decide on an arena. If the two of you cannot make a decision or are simply away at the moment one will be chosen randomly.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 03:00:09 pm
Great! We're going places! but Hugh isn't.

I don't want to diss your absolutely amazing graphic design, but I made a mirror. (http://challonge.com/q0ei32xj)

It doesn't include the qualifiers because there isn't a way I could imitate that in Challonge.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:01:48 pm
Great! We're going places! but Hugh isn't.

I don't want to diss your absolutely amazing graphic design, but I made a mirror. (http://challonge.com/q0ei32xj)

It doesn't include the qualifiers because there isn't a way I could imitate that in Challonge.

Neat! That helps too, I'll add it to the front page.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 03:02:37 pm
Ina would probably like Peaceful Meadows, but I'm gonna vote for Vertigo.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:05:39 pm
Alrighty then, I'll give a little bit to see if nate.219 is here.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 03:10:40 pm
Ah ha, a worthy match! Well met, Wheelo, it's always a pleasure for Myrma to duel brave combatants from the dark caverns. Those steel bolts are nothing to shake a fist (or four) at.

For the match between Myrma the Defi-ant and One Bow Juan, I cast my vote for Klassic.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 03:17:53 pm
In the future, maybe we should prevent mirror rounds from qualifier in elimination round one.  :P

Sad to see Varick up against Hodekin again immediately after that beautiful showing against the minotaur (and am amused at the RNG's ability to match them up twice, hah), but such is life! I shall be cheering for whatever kobold makes it through. Probably not Varick.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
The RNG giveth, the RNG taketh away! there is plenty chance for Varick to win, do not give up hope. Maybe mirror rounds could go, we'll see.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 03:21:22 pm
No steak for Bax tonight. It looks like he'll have to settle for man flesh.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 03:21:43 pm
Pfffft, I was being silly anyway. The odds of them getting matched up are pretty ridiculously low anyway. I say all hail the RNG gods.

They're just making the tournament more equal by eliminating the number of kobolds in play.  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 03:22:35 pm
I added a predictions bit to the mirror (if that's fine with Unraveler) so if anyone wants to do that sort of thing, they can.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:23:58 pm
Don't see why not! It'll add that extra bit of community this baby needs.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 03:29:44 pm
Allright, so I'm going up against a lasher eh, I hope Ina can parry as well as Mogwai can. Good luck. ;)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:34:52 pm
Alright, I feel this is sufficient. A stage shall be selected at random, I shall post the match soon.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 03:37:01 pm
I pick the Meadow or the Castle Top for Bax's first round.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 03:38:11 pm
I'll wait until the first round is finished to close predictions, but that will make the mirror outdated until the first round is finished.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 03:39:44 pm
In the future, we could select our favourite maps at the beginning, maybe something like selecting 2 maps that we like and one that we dislike. If the opponents share a liked map, that map is used, otherwise a random one is selected from the map pool without the disliked maps. That way we could have an impact on the selected map even if we can't be there.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on May 16, 2015, 03:40:40 pm
What in the circus did you just say about Shotgun, you little gobbo? I'll have you know he's an ex-Army of the Coalition of Pearls swordsman with over 300 confirmed kills!

Also I'm down with fighting in the Meadow, too.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 03:46:42 pm
In the future, we could select our favourite maps at the beginning, maybe something like selecting 2 maps that we like and one that we dislike. If the opponents share a liked map, that map is used, otherwise a random one is selected from the map pool without the disliked maps. That way we could have an impact on the selected map even if we can't be there.

Excellent idea!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 03:51:04 pm
In the future, we could select our favourite maps at the beginning, maybe something like selecting 2 maps that we like and one that we dislike. If the opponents share a liked map, that map is used, otherwise a random one is selected from the map pool without the disliked maps. That way we could have an impact on the selected map even if we can't be there.

Agreed. That sounds like an exceptional suggestion.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 03:52:38 pm
I did mention Varick's preferred arenas, so I agree with that idea. It makes it much easier since people always have different hours and availabilities.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 03:57:28 pm
Storming the royal halls of men,
The goblins kill them once again,
And when his mighty scepter swings,
Man dies at the hand of the goblin king!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 04:08:27 pm
Elimination Match I
Ina the Tall VS. Narhtan the Crundle Bundle

Welcome ladies, gentlemen, and assorted other! Today is the beginning of the Elimination round in our grand tournament! Twenty-two gladiators have battled it out in the qualifiers, sixteen of whom have advanced. Lets have a round of applause for the losers!

Alright! Now entering the arena is a cannibal straight from the Spooky Trees, weighing in at 60,000 Urists, it's Ina the Tall! Ina is large, even for elf standards, today he has come to our lovely den of gore to prove that even elves can fight on the level of their rivals the dwarves. Even if they're clad in soft wood.

And his opponent, an old little fellow that just doesn't fit in right at home. Weighing a meager 10,000 Urists, welcome Narhtan the Crundle Bundle! Supposedly he is too docile and intelligent to live with other crundles, so let us welcome him into our family with open arms!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

I think this may have been one of the quickest matches in our short history! The elf valiantly charges into the steadfast little Narhtan. However, his speed and small stature win out the day, sending the poor elf into a stupor after chipping a bone. Two more vicious lashes to the head leave the elf deader than dead. Proving that even a crundle as tame as Narhtan is still a crazy little bugger!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 04:12:37 pm
That bundle of crundle is quite the fighter.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 16, 2015, 04:13:31 pm
That crundle is not small, he`s bloody concentrated...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 16, 2015, 04:13:54 pm
Hodekin's preferences are Castletop and Peaceful Meadow. Dislike: Water Hazard (poor guy can't swim)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 04:15:16 pm
Well, that was quick. Good job Crundle Bundle. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 04:15:56 pm
Whoa! And I thought crundles were only dangerous in large numbers...

Our time in the Arena is so brief. Begone fear!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 04:16:10 pm
That was great! Good job Narhtan! That whip is pretty strong. I hope Hugh doesn't have to face that!

Edit: I've decided to close predictions now instead of waiting. I hope that's OK with everyone!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 04:24:17 pm
Ah Shit looks like Steapa's out :D

Is it ok to make a new character for the next tournament, now or should I wait till this one is done? :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 04:28:03 pm
His [my] vote is for Vertigo, although Klassic and peaceful meadow would also be fine.

I'm gonna quote myself here just in case you didn't see it, Unraveler. I might be unavailable for the next few hours so I wanted to make sure I wasn't holding anything up.... again.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 04:30:07 pm
Hodekin's preferences are Castletop and Peaceful Meadow. Dislike: Water Hazard (poor guy can't swim)

Looks like the kobolds will be duking it out in the Peaceful Meadow, then!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 04:31:26 pm
Ah Shit looks like Steapa's out :D

Is it ok to make a new character for the next tournament, now or should I wait till this one is done? :)

Go right ahead! Looks like you'll have to draw other people's stuff now heh.

Alright, the next match is coming up!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 04:31:35 pm
Oh, can I make a motion to hold the final match at Heatstroke? I feel like it would be a epic end to the tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 04:34:00 pm
His [my] vote is for Vertigo, although Klassic and peaceful meadow would also be fine.

I'm gonna quote myself here just in case you didn't see it, Unraveler. I might be unavailable for the next few hours so I wanted to make sure I wasn't holding anything up.... again.

We are going to have to do random due to alphawolf's non-presence.

Oh, can I make a motion to hold the final match at Heatstroke? I feel like it would be a epic end to the tournament.

I could get behind that if others agree.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 04:36:18 pm
Oh, can I make a motion to hold the final match at Heatstroke? I feel like it would be a epic end to the tournament.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 04:39:57 pm
Oh, can I make a motion to hold the final match at Heatstroke? I feel like it would be a epic end to the tournament.

That sounds like it would be pretty cool.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 04:46:56 pm
Elimination Match II
Orthus the Manflayer VS. Slippery d'Snek

Hello, hello everyone, you know, it really is a shame that Orthus hasn't had any men to flay yet, that'd be the minotaur now entering the meadow, swinging his dual whips! He weighs approximately 220,000 Urists and he's looking for some snake skin boots!

Beside the bovine now is Slippery d'Snek, one of two serpent men to enter this competition. I'd almost feel sorry for the guy, if he wasn't an evil cretin. Though he has powerful weapons himself, a silver warhammer and let us not forget those venomous fangs! He weighs a paling in comparison 50,000 Urists. Lets get it on!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

I'm truly surprised at how agile both of these gladiators seem to be, astounding! The two pirouette around one another for a short while, both fighting very ferociously, disturbing the peaceful tranquility of the meadow. Soon enough the powerful Orthus finds his opening and decimates the poor snake with two lashes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 04:47:27 pm
Oh, can I make a motion to hold the final match at Heatstroke? I feel like it would be a epic end to the tournament.
Sounds perfect to me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 04:50:12 pm
Elimination Match I

This is elimination match II... :)

Good match, good job Orthus!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 04:57:39 pm
If you people want Heat Stroke to be used as the final fight, would you rather me take it out of the pool for other matches?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 04:59:02 pm
Good game Slippery, you got a few hits in but I guess all of Orthus' fat cushioned the impact.

Good match, good job Orthus!

Thanks!

Unraveller, I get 140 points to spend now, correct? If so, is it alright if I purchase skills and equipment now?

If you people want Heat Stroke to be used as the final fight, would you rather me take it out of the pool for other matches?

Doesn't matter to me!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 05:01:15 pm
I agree with everyone to hold the final fight surrounded by magma. That's how Vaders are born !

My preferences for the stages will be Peaceful Meadows and Klassic. I would avoid Castletop if possible.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 05:05:39 pm
Unraveller, I get 140 points to spend now, correct? If so, is it alright if I purchase skills and equipment now?

That is correct, spend them whenever you'd like.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 05:15:53 pm
If you people want Heat Stroke to be used as the final fight, would you rather me take it out of the pool for other matches?

I'd prefer if that didn't happen, but I'm fine either way.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 05:23:42 pm
How many more matches are we doing today?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 05:28:55 pm
Elimination Match III
Varick the Flighty VS. Hodekin the Legendary

Well, well, well, what are the chances of having a repeat match from the qualifiers? Pretty slim! And yet here we are, frolicing in the peaceful medows are the two Kobolds who've entered the arena.

The first is Varick the Flighty, who de-armed the minotaur Asbjorn The Elf-Eater in the redemption round. He's come back to have another go at his opponent, Hodekin the Legendary, who is well on his way of fulfilling that title of his. They both weigh in at 20,000 Urists. Varick on the left, Hodekin on the right, who will be victorious?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

That's it, they've done it! The shortest match conceivable! The two dash on up to each other and with split second timing Varick is yet again decapitated! You've put up a good show Varick, but at least you'll be able to cheer on your Kobold kin throughout the tourney!.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 05:29:54 pm
How many more matches are we doing today?

I don't have a set number, I'll probably do them for about six more hours. So probably six or seven more matches. The reason I wait so long is that I like to give time for comments on the fight, and like to take breaks to do other things as well.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 05:31:12 pm
Wow... That's all I have to say...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 05:32:13 pm
This tournament is showing the true viciousness of those kobolds!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 05:32:33 pm
Wow! That's some knife skill there, Hodekin.

Wait, I should cheer for my own guy...

That's a ridiculously short fight, hah! Poor Varick, his neck was just too nice a target.  :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 05:34:01 pm
Nice job, Hodekin. I swear, you guys are killing my prediction chances. :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 05:34:13 pm
Wow! That's some knife skill there, Hodekin.

Wait, I should cheer for my own guy...

That's a ridiculously short fight, hah! Poor Varick, his neck was just too nice a target.  :D

Yeah, I must have done a poor job stitching it together.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 05:59:41 pm
Elimination Match IV
Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench  VS. Shotgun Gai

It seems that everyone loves spreading gore and guts upon the peaceful meadow! Here we have a rather classic match-up, goblin and human.

Boy, it sure does reek like the flatulence of a thousand rotting walruses. Oh, thats just Bax, soon to be ruler of the Land of Stench, that is, as soon as his odor becomes even more rank than the king's. He weighs in at about 60,000 Urists.

And his opponent is the rather well-known hero Shotgun Gai, he comes from the Coalition of Pearls, a very wealthy and respected trading community. And those that live there are as cleanly as can be, spotless, just like their trade goods. Gai weighs a bit heavier at 70,000 Urists, will that be enough of an edge? Lets find out!



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ouch! 'fraid is was not enough for the man, a shame really after his excellent performance in the three way qualifier match. It would seem that whips have been an extremely potent weapon in this tourney thus far, strong enough that more regulations may be placed upon them in the future. But for know, we'll battle on.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 06:03:08 pm
Nice job, Bax. I hope your predictions turn out false.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 16, 2015, 06:04:35 pm
These fights are awesome. I cant wait until mogwai's second fight, I hope he can kill a large, ugly cow person.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 06:08:55 pm
These fights are awesome. I cant wait until mogwai's second fight, I hope he can kill a large, ugly cow person.

I take it you guys haven't made any particular arena arrangements, so random?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 06:18:38 pm
Updated build for Bax

-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan
Goblin (+240) (+278)
[Equipment]
Iron Scourge (-38)
Oaken Shield(-45)
[Skills]
Proficient Fighter  (-45)
Adept Lasher (-140)
Proficient Dodger (-75)
Expert Shield User (-144)
Competent Swimmer (-12)
Total: 9 pts

Nice job, Bax. I hope your predictions turn out false.

As long as Bax fights Orthus, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 16, 2015, 06:29:29 pm
Sam will crush Mogwai like a tiny bug.

Random map? Sure.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 06:35:18 pm
Elimination Match V
Mogwai the Devious  VS. Sam Squatch

Yet again we have a match between the largest of our gladiators and the smallest, the yeti and the gremlin, and at last a battle somewhere other than the meadows.

Right, well standing upon the bridge is Sam Squatch, the racially confused yeti who was able to slay the Northman by making a fist sized hole through his head, though the poor guy clearly showed remorse after doing so. What can the talented wrestler do to a much smaller creature like Mogwai? This beast weighs in at 300,000 Urists

And this little bastard, Mogwai the Devious truly lives up to his title. In the qualifying round against Narthan the Crundle Bundle, Mogwai pulled the old, 'look over there!' trick before backstabbing the poor crundle. This cankerous little bugger weighs a measly 10,000 Urists. If there was ever a time that I'm biased, it is now. Beat that cheating little green guy Sam, beat him to a pulp!



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

That little. . .! Mogwai can never be trusted ladies and gentlemen, pulling yet another trick from his book, using the area to his advantage. During the fight the tiny gremlin told Sam that he was going to slip off the edge, the yeti of course turned around long enough for Mogwai to cling to Sam's head, repeatedly stabbing it until the brain was punctured. If were seeing anything here folks is that the little guys are just as dangerous as the big-uns..


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 06:37:51 pm
Updated build for Bax

-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan
Goblin (+240) (+278)
[Equipment]
Iron Scourge (-38)
Oaken Shield(-45)
[Skills]
Proficient Fighter  (-45)
Adept Lasher (-140)
Proficient Dodger (-75)
Expert Shield User (-144)
Competent Swimmer (-12)
Total: 9 pts


Perfect, updating now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 06:38:02 pm
Nice job, Mogwai.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 06:39:56 pm
Wow!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 06:44:02 pm
Damn, it almost seems like the little guys have an advantage due to their size.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 06:45:18 pm
Damn, it almost seems like the little guys have an advantage due to their size.

There might need to be some balance with the point totals and discount on dodging.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: angrykitteh on May 16, 2015, 06:49:21 pm
Yeah, since AI doesnt charge anymore at the first attack and dodge/parry/block occurs much more often i call for points rebalance!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 06:52:26 pm
Yeah, since AI doesnt charge anymore at the first attack and dodge/parry/block occurs much more often i call for points rebalance!

Damn, it almost seems like the little guys have an advantage due to their size.

There might need to be some balance with the point totals and discount on dodging.

We could try weight classes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:01:55 pm
I don't want to needlessly complicate things, next tourney I'll lower the points marginally for tiny characters and reduce their dodging discount just a bit.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 07:06:49 pm
As the tournaments continue, I'm sure we'll have a better grasp of what is balanced and what needs tweaking.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 07:09:38 pm
Anyway, we're all DF players. We take pleasure in losing in totally unfair situations ! The balancing process will be as fun as the stable tournaments !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:10:27 pm
Elimination Match VI
One Bow Juan  VS. Myrma the Defi-Ant

Welcome back gladiators, to Water Hazard, here we have the sharp-eyed(?) mushroom man and the incredibly defensive ant woman.

One Bow Juan has come to this tournament with one goal in mind, make his father, Two Bow Joe, a proud fungus. And I believe no matter the outcome of this match, he has done it, he's the last hope for Portabelo though, at least for Plump Helmet Men wining this tourney. Weighing in at 50,000 Urists this is one fun guy. (Yes I said that)

A mushroom with impeccable aim is hard to beat, that is unless you've the strongest guard in the known world. It is as if Myrma was made to counter Juan, with her four-point defense, it sure is difficult to land a scratch on this insect! She weighs a neat 50,000 Urists, not too shabby.


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

And just as expected, Myrma's four shield technique staved off any arrow that Juan could fling at her! And with the mushroom not being all that good at hand-to-hand combat the rest was history. One tenderized plump helmet later and we have an ant going on to the quarter finals!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 07:15:34 pm
5 for 6 on predictions! These fights have been pretty brutal so far.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 07:18:02 pm
I would remove the different dodging prices entirely. They already begin with extra points, I feel like that's a pretty huge advantage in itself. Of course, I'm definitely biased.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 07:18:29 pm
Nice job, Myrma!

one fun guy

UNRAVELLERRRRR!!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:19:58 pm


one fun guy

UNRAVELLERRRRR!!

You don't understand, I had to!

I would remove the different dodging prices entirely. They already begin with extra points, I feel like that's a pretty huge advantage in itself. Of course, I'm definitely biased.

You may be correct, we'll find out as we move forward.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 07:24:23 pm
I would remove the different dodging prices entirely. They already begin with extra points, I feel like that's a pretty huge advantage in itself. Of course, I'm definitely biased.

I too am biased and agree with your opinion
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 16, 2015, 07:35:12 pm
100% Biased agreement. Small creatures need to be given less points, or large creatures need to be given more points. it's very unbalanced right now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:44:37 pm
Elimination Match VII
Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient  VS. Expedia The Terrible

Ah, smell that Klassic arena smell, oh and here come the gladiators. The last serpent in circulation as well as the creepy dark gnome!

So Pliskin has been an antagonizer since the moment he's gotten here. First picking a fight with Steapa which will unfortunately not come to fruition, and going after the others he has face in the most cold blooded (heh) of manner. This snake man weighs a solid 50,000 Urists of muscle, and has fangs that drip a paralytic venom.

Fighting as his opponent is the relatively small and much more so creepy Expedia the Terrible. Wearing one of those red gnome caps this creature hails from dark pits in unexplored mountains. Its beady eyes unnerve even the most stalwart of gladiators. It weighs a meager 15,000 Urists, but it's whip packs a punch.



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

All it takes is one solid bite for that serpent venom to course through the blood of its target, shortly after expunging into a painful paralysis, where the only wish the victim has left is to be eaten. Unfortunately that is just what happened here. This sick and vile snake is moving on to the quarter finals.

Only one match left in the Elimination round, better make it a good one!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:45:33 pm
Agreed, little people are given too much extra swag, while the big guys don't have nearly enough.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 07:46:41 pm
Good job Pliskin! Snake venom OP.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 16, 2015, 07:47:31 pm
I too am completely biased and disagree with more points for the big guys.  :P

Realistically though, they probably should get a bit more, and we could probably drop the dodge discount (either 10% or none at all, it really depends on if you dropped little guys' points or not).

Dat snake venom tho.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 07:50:46 pm
It will certainly be a balancing process over numerous tournaments, but we'll get there.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 07:57:09 pm
*disgusting slurping sound effect*

Yeah, maybe serpent man a bit intense, we'll see how Pliskin will manage against the knife kobold and the mighty 4-shield ant !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 16, 2015, 08:00:42 pm
I'm updating Orthus' ledger. Please check my math, as there's a very big chance I've done it wrong.

[Orthus the Manflayer]
Race: Minotaur (+140p)
Leftover points: 1 (+2p)

[Skills]
Novice Fighter
Competent Lasher -> Talented Lasher (-75p)
Competent Huge Dodger -> Proficient Huge Dodger (-54)

[Equipment]
Platinum Whip
Silver Whip
Human Leather Armor

Leftover points: 13
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:10:12 pm
I believe everything is in order there!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 08:16:56 pm
Nice job, Myrma!

Thanks Wofi!

As for the tweaking of point costs, I would be interested to see the results of repeated matchups of the same combatants. As it stands, the points could conceivably be balanced, and the smaller gladiators have been favored by chance. Personally, I think that's unlikely, but I'd feel better about changing the point costs if we had a little more evidence on our hands.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 16, 2015, 08:26:15 pm
Poor Cerol, we're gonna have to get him out of the arena with shovels and buckets. Random arena for Crush, always!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:30:44 pm
Elimination Match VIII
Cerol Chickenkicker  VS. Crush the Crusher

What's this? Do I smell singed hair and sweating flesh? Of course I do, because we're bringing you a fight from Heat Stroke, between a dwarf and a minotaur! We've come to the final match-up of the Elimination round, and it's one you don't wanna miss!

Cerol Chicken kicker is a rather small dwarf, likely his title is a reference to such. But do not let his small stature sway you from him for he is a right dangerous foe with that steel dagger. In-fact he's faced a minotaur before in the qualifiers and won! Will this be a repeat of that match? He weighs in at 60,000 Urists.

Crush the Crusher has come to the tournament because he's had a severe crushing deficiency back home, we're sorry Crush, but let us make it up to you! You'd be a fool to underestimate the slayer of Asbjorn The Elf-Eater however! At a mighty 220,000 Urists this won't be an easy match!



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Right outta the gate mister Chickenkicker is doing great! A flurry of stabs and slashes render Crush's crushin' arm useless! It seems that this was going to be another poor end for a bovine, however just as he was losing hope, Crush remembered that he had horns! Responding with his own onslaught of goring he begins to push back the now frightened dwarf. Finally the great beast grabs Cerol and dunks him in and out of the magma, the flesh pours of of the dwarf's bones which Crush in turn gnaws.

Great fight you two! Real Brütal! Great job everyone who's participated!


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 08:35:31 pm
Crush is indeed the Crusher.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:36:08 pm
These fine gladiators have advanced to the quarter finals! Let us all hope for great matches!

-Narhtan the Crundle Bundle- Managed by  nate.219

-Orthus the Manflayer- Managed by Rero Falcon

-Hodekin the Legendary- Managed by  _Italics_

-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan

-Mogwai the Devious-
Managed by Elagn

-Myrma the Defi-ant-
Managed by DS

-Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient- Managed by Tesseract

-Crush the Crusher- Managed by kiershar

Remember, you receive your race's value in points as well as doubling any points left in reserve from the previous round! If you require assistance do not hesitate to ask, if you do not upgrade your gladiator by the time of your match, the most relevant skills will be increased. Thank you all!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 16, 2015, 08:38:32 pm
These fights have been great so far. :) Hopefully it doesn't take too long for everyone to get their gladiators updated.

Edit: nevermind, OP has that covered. :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:39:33 pm
Here is the updated bracket!
Spoiler: Tourney Bracket (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 16, 2015, 08:45:07 pm
I can't update narhtans equipment right now, but if you run through the other matches first I would be most greatfull.

Also my I vote for the water map. Let's hope we can swim!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 16, 2015, 08:45:53 pm
Nice gore in the head! That's what the arena is all about.

The little races managed to get a lot farther than I expected, this might not end well for Crush. I was counting on the lashers to die in first round.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 08:46:17 pm
Crush make sure to not let Piss-skin bite you or else you're done for
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 08:46:58 pm
Water Hazard or Vertigo for Bax's next fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:47:55 pm
And here are the Match-ups

Spoiler: Quarter Finals (click to show/hide)

I can't update narhtans equipment right now, but if you run through the other matches first I would be most greatfull.

Also my I vote for the water map. Let's hope we can swim!

How long would you like? To update it I mean.

Oh and, I'd like to thank each and every one of you for making this possible so far, it has been grand!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 16, 2015, 08:53:59 pm
Not too worried about poison, Crush is not a small critter that get overwhelmed by a few drop of snake drool! Crush will carry on the will of Steapa, and cave in the skull of Pisskin!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 08:59:02 pm
[CE_PARALYSIS:SEV:100:PROB:100:RESISTABLE:SIZE_DILUTES:START:5:PEAK:10:END:20]
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Baffler on May 16, 2015, 09:02:32 pm
Alas, poor Cerol. He died as a dwarf should, bathed in magma rather suddenly. I can't wait to see the rest!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 09:03:40 pm
Good job Crush and everyone else who made it to the quarter finals! And good luck next time for the people who didn't! Boo! *throws tomatoes at Crush*

Friendly reminder that my mirror of the tournament bracket is still around over here. (http://challonge.com/q0ei32xj)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 09:08:11 pm
You know, I am curious as to why no one wanted to have a troll gladiator.

I'll be back in around half an hour. If, by that time no one has updated their gladiators I'll probably decide to hold the Quarter finals tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 09:09:44 pm
You know, I curious as to why no one wanted to have a troll gladiator.

The more races the better! As long as you're able to fairly add them of course :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 09:11:08 pm
[sarcasm] Shouldn't you be drawing stuff, LOSER! [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 16, 2015, 09:11:27 pm
Updating Narhtan (also doing calculations in my head whilst in the car on my phone, sorry if I make a mistake)
Crundle: 360p
Skills:
Adept lasher 90p
Talented shield user 84p
Talented armor user 30p

Equipment:
Copper helm 15p
Copper mail shirt 30p
Copper greaves 22.5p
Copper gauntlets 10p
Copper low boots 10p
Bronze whip 24p
Oak shield 45p

I would actually prefer a meadows arena.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: nate.219 on May 16, 2015, 09:27:30 pm
Also completely biased, I think that maybe dodging should be at 10%discount but I don't think the bigger gladiators should get more points. They have a far superior advantage when it comes to wrestling and heavier weapons, just build upon your strengths.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 09:33:13 pm
Updating Myrma the Defi-ant:

Soldier Ant Woman (250 pts + 250 pts)
Equipment:
- Oaken Shield x 2 (90 pts)
- Silver Buckler x 2 (60 pts)
Skills:
- Skilled Shield User (40 pts) --> Professional Shield User (+140 pts)
- Skilled Misc. Object User (30 pts) --> Professional Misc. Object User (+105 pts)
- Competent Dodger (30 pts)
Points left: 5 pts

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 09:43:56 pm
Alright, nice upgrades everyone! Let's see, who is left: Hodekin, Mogwai, Pliskin, and Crush. Try and get those purchases in whenever you can.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 09:54:17 pm
Alright, nice upgrades everyone! Let's see, who is left: Hodekin, Mogwai, Pliskin, and Crush. Try and get those purchases in whenever you can.

Of course it has to be one person from each match. (Not giving them a hard time, I was just making an observation.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 09:55:59 pm
Yeah, We shall wait until tomorrow and hope that everyone participating will update their stuff.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 09:58:01 pm
I appreciate the going through the trouble of getting from the final qualifying matches and the whole elimination round.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 10:10:38 pm
Pliskin upsate:

2 * Points left from before + 250 = 2 * (1) + 250 =252.

I spend nothing.

Points left: 252
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 16, 2015, 10:12:25 pm
Points left: 252

Oh dear.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 10:13:23 pm
RISK TAKER AHOY! BREAK 'IM TWAIN CRUSH!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 10:19:03 pm
Here is an accurate representation of pisskin the filthy :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 10:23:38 pm
I don't know how manageable it would be, but since we know who we are fighting with, maybe it would be nice to hide the improvements we buy. I don't know how to call that particular dynamic, when you have to guess how much points your opponent was willing to invest in this fight or keep in bank to gain more. Those of you who are familiars with board games like Battlestar Galactica and Game of Thrones will know the kind of play we get from that kind of dynamic. This time, I am biased since I like closed-hands games.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 16, 2015, 10:34:47 pm
Crush keeps his 176 points. Buying nothing.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 10:37:57 pm
Here is an accurate representation of pisskin the filthy :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is a masterful art work. It is encircled with bands of humor. It menaces with spikes of wit.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 10:38:31 pm
Unraveller, can I make a change to the build or is it locked in?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 10:40:00 pm
Crush keeps his 176 points. Buying nothing.

You guys are crazy.

Unraveller, can I make a change to the build or is it locked in?

The builds will be locked in after the first match begins.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 10:43:05 pm
Whoa! Both Crush and Pliskin keep their points? What a twist!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 10:44:45 pm
It is a viable strategy.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 16, 2015, 10:46:17 pm
Especially since they are fighting each other - although, if this were a blind competition and we were unable to see our opponent's choices, it would be much more of a gamble.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 10:53:05 pm
Right, perhaps a blind tourney would be a good idea, though would it be blind in the sense of knowing only one anither's race? Or perhaps being able to see their skills and equipment while being oblivious to their remaining points?

With that being said, I prefer the open format.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 11:12:50 pm
So, this one remains open?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 16, 2015, 11:21:22 pm
Yes, I don't think I'll ever change the format of an un progress game. That doesn't rule it out for the future however.
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Post by: Tesseract on May 16, 2015, 11:41:21 pm
Here is an accurate representation of pisskin the filthy :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Wow ! This officially will be printed and put on my wall for a while !

Right, perhaps a blind tourney would be a good idea, though would it be blind in the sense of knowing only one anither's race? Or perhaps being able to see their skills and equipment while being oblivious to their remaining points?

With that being said, I prefer the open format.

Ideally not 100% blind. Too much random doesn't leave much space for strategy. I was more thinking about knowing who you will be fighting and the gladiator's initial stats/equipment, but you don't know how the manager distributed the points. Since you know who you are fighting, you can try to gauge how they will distribute their points.

Yes, I don't think I'll ever change the format of an un progress game. That doesn't rule it out for the future however.

To change the rules in the middle of a game is a mortal sin !
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Post by: foxtrot on May 16, 2015, 11:44:31 pm
Here is an accurate representation of pisskin the filthy :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Wow ! This officially will be printed and put on my wall for a while !

I'm glad you enjoy it! :D

You venomous wretch
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 16, 2015, 11:47:14 pm
Is there a set time for the round tomorrow? I don't think I'll be able to access my computer until the morning so I can't post the new build for Bax.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 16, 2015, 11:55:21 pm
Troll, 120 base

Oak Helm (9)
Oak Mail (18)
Oak Gauntlets (6)
Oak High Boots (7.5)
Silver War Hammer (26)
------------------------------
Equipment (66.5)

Fighter 3 (18)
Hammer 1 (6)
Wrestling 1 (4)
Bite 1 (4)
Armor 3 (12)
Dodge 1 (6)
Observer 1 (3)
---------------------
Skills (53)
--------------------
Total 119.5

Obuesno Osnukngog the Troll

Since it was pointed out that there weren't any, lemme know if you see it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 12:07:40 am
Is there a set time for the round tomorrow? I don't think I'll be able to access my computer until the morning so I can't post the new build for Bax.

Don't worry, I probably won't start the matches until everyone involved has updated their gladiator.

Oh Max, you may already know this, but there are no spots in this tournament, but your troll will certainly get a spot for the next one, I promise!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 17, 2015, 12:21:41 am
Oh I do, and that would be great.

I'll go ahead and share the joke btw:
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Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 12:28:25 am
[q]uote author=Max™ link=topic=150739.msg6235016#msg6235016 date=1431840101]
Oh I do, and that would be great.

I'll go ahead and share the joke btw:
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[/quote]

HA! I was planning on finding the translation tomorrow, excellent choice.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 01:25:34 am
I don't know why I thought I'd need my computer.

-Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench- Managed by BigHatLogan
Goblin (+240) (+278)
[Equipment]
Iron Scourge (-38)
[Skills]
Skilled Fighter  (-30)
Great Lasher (-330)
Proficient Dodger (-75)
Total: 8 pts
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 07:31:17 am
I sent you my upgrades in a reddit message yesterday (so secret!), but after learning steel armor does almost nothing against whips, I have changed it as well.

Two tiny guys with no armor, powerful weapons and masterful weapon skills... This is certainly going to be a verrry quick fight as well!

Points: 290 + 290 + 4 = 584

Steel dagger: 64
Master knife user: 390
Adept dodger: 112
Competent observer: 18

Total: 584/584

Edit: Foxtrot, since I have no artistic skills, I would loove an illustration of one of Hodekin's legendary fights! (if you feel inspired of course)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 07:43:57 am
Il see what I can do ;D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 08:13:33 am
Kobolds are a "peaceful" race
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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 17, 2015, 08:16:23 am
Cloudy with a chance of red showers!  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 08:42:35 am
Amazing, thanks!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:14:00 am
Alrighty, adding those two works of art and updating some builds!

I think that makes everyone, lets see; Hodekin, Mogwai, Pliskin, and Crush.

Mogwai? Is there a Mogwai the Devious in the house? I don't believe you've purchased any upgrades for your next match, do so when you can.

I'll begin the quarter finals in thirty minutes, if, by the time your match comes up and you have not upgraded your gladiator, I will do what I assume is best for them.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 11:26:46 am
Sorry, I was unavalible for a time.
Mogwai's Upgrades:
I get 360 pts for gremlin, + 2 for what I had left, so 362
From Acomplished to Grand Master Dodger (200 pts)
Profesional Observer from scratch (135)
and competent fighter from scratch (18)

This leaves me with 9 left.

(note, Im keeping my 2 bronze daggers and proficient knife-user)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 11:28:59 am
Excellent! The quarter finals can begin!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 17, 2015, 11:34:29 am
How exciting! Whoever wins between Mogwai or Myrma, the victor will have to go on to face a foe boosted with saved points. What a tense situation! And that Grand Master Dodger skill...

Is it possible for someone with artistic ability to illustrate the last moments of the battle between Mogwai and Myrma? I don't think either of them have had their likenesses drawn yet.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 11:51:08 am
Quarter Finals Match I
Narhtan the Crundle Bundle  VS. Orthus the Manflayer

Welcome everyone, things are really beginning to heat up, we're here at the peaceful meadows to bring you the first match of the quarter finals! And yet again it is a battle between small and tall!

In the Elimination round Narhtan the docile crundle showed us that he really can cause a ruckus, lashing the poor elf Ina the Tall's brain into mush. This little crundle comes in at 10,000 Urists and sadly he believes he does not have a home. Come on everybody, let's show this little guy how much we love a grand fighter like this one!

Sure, we'll welcome the kid with open arms, but that doesn't mean we won't send him up against one of the most bloodthirsty bovines we've every seen, give it up for the 220,000 Urist cow, Orthus the Manflayer! You know, it really is a shame, because this big guy hasn't had a single man to flay as of yet. Let''s hope he doesn't turn on the audience anytime soon!



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ah, nothing beats a nice flowery field with a minotaur flaring over a streak of viscera that was once a crundle. Two lashers coming up against each other in this struggle, though Orthus uses twice as many whips as the poor little Narhtan. The two frolic around for a little bit before a powerful lash from the cow sends this little bugger flying. Great show everyone, Orthus will be moving on to the semi-finals!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 11:54:16 am
How exciting! Whoever wins between Mogwai or Myrma, the victor will have to go on to face a foe boosted with saved points. What a tense situation! And that Grand Master Dodger skill...

Is it possible for someone with artistic ability to illustrate the last moments of the battle between Mogwai and Myrma? I don't think either of them have had their likenesses drawn yet.

Tricky indeed, and now I'm starting to understand the importance of not knowing what they've spent their points on. Next tourney will likely have only a gladiator's initial equipment in the open, however their points shall be a mystery to other gladiators.

I'm sure one of these losers, (foxtrot) will pick it up for you.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 11:56:47 am
Should we call him Orthus the Crundleflayer now ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 12:00:32 pm
That was a hell of a flaying.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 12:02:21 pm
Oh, and it looks like a random stage for the next match!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 12:03:50 pm
Nice job, Orthus! They should call you the Everythingflayer, at this rate.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 12:07:26 pm
Random is okay with me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 12:19:00 pm

Quarter Finals Match II
Hodekin the Legendary  VS. Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench

Now things are literally beginning to heat up, as the gladiators have just crossed into Heat Stroke, you can still smell the burning dwarf!

Right, here we have another one of those concentrated little guys. Hodekin the Legendary is well on his way of claiming his spot as a legend, having separated his Kobold kin's, Varick the Flighty, head from its body twice now he's really itching for a different sort of fight. Weighing in at 20,000 Urists, this is one tough bold that you don't wanna mess with.

I'd say the most overpowering smell down in this arena is the crispy dwarf flesh, and that'd be true if it weren't for the demented prince from the Land of Stench. We can owe that to the heat, making this goblin sweat buckets of nasty liquids, ugh. This offensive creature weighs in at 60,000 Urists and has proven that he too is not to be trifled with.



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Looks like we're going to have to change this little kobold's name to Hodekin the Decapitator! Every match he has shown to be incredibly precise in his actions. Hodekin will be moving on the the semis while we get a hazmat crew in here to remove the pieces. Stand by folks.


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 12:19:53 pm
Nooooooo!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 17, 2015, 12:29:00 pm
Those kobolds, man!

Come on, Myrma! Crush the gremlin!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 12:37:07 pm
Damn, these kobolds are brutal.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 12:55:53 pm
Nooooooo!

Does this make you feel better you poor thing?

Spoiler: Art (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 01:00:28 pm
Nooooooo!

Does this make you feel better you poor thing?

Spoiler: Art (click to show/hide)

Yes! My next gladiator will have to be the goblin king's second favorite son.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 01:22:46 pm


Quarter Finals Match III
Mogwai the Devious  VS. Myrma the Defi-Ant

We are well underway with the quarter finals, and for the first time the gladiators are meeting atop of the burning castle known as Heat Stroke. Fumes rise from below, the gremlin and the antwoman lock gazes.

On the left side we have the most clever of gladiators to enter the tourney, Mogwai the Devious has been shown to succeed not through brute strength, no, but through his razor sharp wit. Pulling numerous tricks on the other gladiators in order to win, this little bastard is a stone cold cheater, weighing in at 10,000 Urists, let us hope that his opponent can put 'im down!

Myrma the ant woman has arrived, much like Mogwai, from subterranean caverns. Unlike Mogwai, she holds a very high and respectable position in her society. She has brought along all of her raw talent in the form of a technique she calls the four-point defense, the name comes from her four shields of course. In previous rounds this 50,000 Urist insect has beaten her opponents to a pulp, can she do the same here?


Due to the multiple levels, I will be following one gladiator's perspective, this was chosen randomly.

Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

What could have possibly been expected from this devious green snot? This match likely would have gone in Myrma's favor had the little lout not fooled her, saying that they should go fight down there, you go first, I have to tie my -- uh, shoes! What a horrid little trickster. Do to his cheap tactics Mogwai was able to sever an arm and send her into an unconscious state. Regrettably the gremlin shall go on to the semi-finals.



Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 17, 2015, 01:26:25 pm
I was not expecting that win from Mogwai, wow.

Not that it matters. Kobold powah! C'mon Hodekin!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 01:27:30 pm
Mogwaiiii! I wanted the bracket to make a nice pattern... :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 17, 2015, 01:28:23 pm
What a match! I have one clarification, though...

Do to his cheap tactics Mogwai was able to sever an arm and send her into an unconscious state. Regrettably the gremlin shall go on to the semi-finals.

Myrma didn't pass out from her wounds - she passed out from exhaustion. The fight went on so long that Mogwai tired her out! It was the only way to defeat the four-point defense!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 01:45:51 pm
Well he is a cheater I tell you!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 01:54:45 pm
That was a beautiful fight ! Had I been a gambler, I would have lost my house on that fight !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 02:15:31 pm

Quarter Finals Match IV
Plisssskin the Miasssmagnificient  VS. Crush the Crusher

Welcome ladies and gentlemen, to the final round of the quarter finals! We are currently on a Water Hazard, look out for those currents!

Today on the bridge is Pliskin, a serpent man that many are betting on. This snake carries no weapons of metal or wood, no for his weapons are the piercing fangs in his mouth. More so then that their venom has fell many a foe. Weighing in at 50,000 Urists, will this cretin's toxins be potent enough to bring down a much larger foe?

Crush the Crusher is planning on winning this tournament for his family, a father of four this lovable beast does anything for his children, especially crush heads. With silver maul in hand he is looking to pound out a new front door mat. Weighing a hefty 220,000 Urists Crush says he'll go all the way.



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

What!? This is a surprising out come everyone! There was a majority betting on Pliskin's victory, turning this into a long drawn out feast for himself, but Mister the Crusher was having none of that, striding directly toward the doomed serpent he brought his hammer down one, two, three, four times! And the head of Pliskin is no more! Well done everyone!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 02:20:04 pm
The updated bracket!
Spoiler: Tourney Bracket (click to show/hide)

The Semi-Final Matches!

Match I
-Orthus the Manflayer- Managed by Rero Falcon VS. -Hodekin the Legendary- Managed by  _Italics_

Match II
-Mogwai the Devious- Managed by Elagn VS. -Crush the Crusher- Managed by kiershar

Who will go on to the finals? We shall find out soon!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 02:23:15 pm
Oh. I am crushed by the news of the demise of my champion! I should not have been so greedy with my points !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 17, 2015, 02:26:21 pm
Go Crush! Crush the gremlin with all your bonus points!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 02:29:23 pm
If anyone needs help with their points and stuff, just let me know. Not sure how long I'll give, but I'd like to get through the semi-finals today, and perhaps the finals as well.

I will need, Mogwai, Crush, and Hodekn's upgrades! The Manflayer has sent me his on reddit do to not being able to post for a bit.

So assuming I beat Narthan the Crundle Bundle: [Orthus the Manflayer] Race: Minotaur (+140p) Leftover points: 13 (+26p)

[Skills] Novice Fighter Talented Lasher -> Professional Lasher (-120p) Proficient Huge Dodger -> Talented Huge Dodger (-36)

[Equipment] Platinum Whip Silver Whip Human Leather Armor

Leftover points: 10
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 02:46:58 pm
Oh. I am crushed by the news of the demise of my champion! I should not have been so greedy with my points !

Are you gonna make a new character for the next tourney or stick with Pisskin :D?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 17, 2015, 02:49:21 pm
The last battle gif is broken, and did anyone else notice you can see the ant womans head flying through the air as the gremlin climbs back up the pyramid?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 02:50:27 pm
did anyone else notice you can see the ant womans head flying through the air as the gremlin climbs back up the pyramid?

Ya, it was a nice touch :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 02:53:25 pm
The last battle gif is broken, and did anyone else notice you can see the ant womans head flying through the air as the gremlin climbs back up the pyramid?

What is broken about it? I can see it just fine :/
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 03:24:32 pm
Oh. I am crushed by the news of the demise of my champion! I should not have been so greedy with my points !

Are you gonna make a new character for the next tourney or stick with Pisskin :D?

Probably going to go with something else, but Pliskin will be back!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 03:27:38 pm
Yeah, that rivalry needs to be resolved at some point!
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Post by: Rero Falcon on May 17, 2015, 05:05:04 pm
I'm back! Good fights everyone! Orthus is a bit upset that he won't be able to fight Bax, but at least he'll have a Kobold skin to flay!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:06:52 pm
Who knows, you might go up against Crush in the finals.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 05:12:22 pm
I think you made a mistake in your post. Narhtan lost, and you should need Mogwai's updates. They are:

Points: 360 gremlin + 9*2 leftover + 378

Upgrades:

Proficent (5) knife user to Great (11) knife user (255 pts)
Profesional (9) Observer to Master (12) Observer (99 pts)
Competent (3) Fighter to Skilled (4) Fighter (12 pts)

This leaves 12 points left over.

I still have from previously:

2 large bronze daggers
Grand Master Dodger

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:15:41 pm
Gee, all you tiny things look the same! I'm sorry!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 05:21:50 pm
Crush was:
Proficient Hammer
Silver Maul
276 pts

Upgrades to :
Proficient -> Expert Hammer
Silver Maul

Novice Observer
Novice Armor
Novice Shield
Novice Huge Dodger
Adequate Fighting
Adequate Swimming


I'd say, there needs to be an exhibition match between Pliskin and Steapa.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:23:18 pm
Great!, now we just need Hodekin.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 05:36:43 pm
I was most scared of Bax and Expedia in this tourney, great that they got killed early on! Couldn't hope for a better opponent than Mogwai because Crush is 22 times his size. It's all gonna come down to the bronze daggers... are they gonna be enough to chop limps off? I would think so, because I once cut a roc in half from the lower body, but it's extremely unlikely!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:38:03 pm
You say that now, but you forget that the cheating little bastard defeated a yeti, 30 times larger than him.
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Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 05:43:01 pm
Unarmed Yeti with poor weapon skills. Crush has a lifetime of experience when it comes to smashing small critters into gibblets!
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Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:46:09 pm
I dunno, it is tough to call. Same goes for Orthus and Hodekin.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 05:49:54 pm
The problem with crushing Mogwai, is that you have to hit Mogwai. He has grand master dodger, and your hammer will never contact him, while his daggers can cause very fun puncture wounds into all parts of your body :)

Oh, and for my battle, I would like the castletop, medow, or standard.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 05:56:07 pm
If Mogwai gets charged and collides, the next hit can't be dodged. Just need one hit and he will explode into gore!

Heatstroke or random for Crush.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 05:57:06 pm
Fight! Fight! Fight!
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Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 06:00:38 pm
Puncture wounds to the head for the win. Besides, do you realy think that such a big, clumsy, beast would be able to actualy collide with Mogwai in a charge? That is what dodge is for.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 06:03:00 pm
Looks like you two will be flying random. By the way, so far I think Castletop is a really underrated map.
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Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 06:08:17 pm
Nice job, Crush! I missed your fight, so I couldn't throw the tomatoes. :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 06:14:24 pm
Crush already completely red from the body part explosions, bring on the tomatoes!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 06:18:22 pm
**YAWN** Crushing people requires a functional spinal cord, brain, and arm. Puncture wounds are good a eliminating all of those.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 06:20:23 pm
They all think they will win, up until they turn into a fine pink mist. Crush will dunk Mogwai in water and make more critters to smash... just for fun!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 06:22:27 pm
They all think they will win, up until they turn into a fine pink mist. Crush will dunk Mogwai in water and make more critters to smash... just for fun!

Heh, aren't you going to add the explosion of Pliskin's head to your signature?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 06:32:01 pm
This debate with the beast who cant think beyond it's hammer bores me. There is no point argueing with the unreasonable. We will see the result in the actual fight.
May the Force be with you. Or rather-May the knives be (stuck) in you.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 06:32:37 pm
Heh, aren't you going to add the explosion of Pliskin's head to your signature?

Just did now!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 06:49:08 pm
Well, that was annoying. I tried to see how the results in the battle between Mogwai and Crush would turn out on my own, just to get a general idea. I didn't turn off the minotaur natural skills, and as such, the battles were neither accurate or pretty. In case anyone is wondering, if a minotaur gets their natural skills in the tournament, it isn't anywhere close to a fair fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 06:49:30 pm
**Acidental Double-Post**
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 07:03:55 pm
I believe minautors are naturally expert at weapons, which is the exact skill level Crush is at right now! How do you like your odds now?!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 07:11:15 pm
I've removed all of the Minotaurs natural skills, and boy are there a ton, do not worry.

Shall I wait for Hodekin to respond or give the most relevant upgrades to him and go on with the semi-finals?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 07:16:26 pm
I had forgotten the natural skills, and with the skills I gave, the minotaur was legendary + some in hammering, and higher in other relevant skills too. THAT is why it had been overpowered
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 07:18:32 pm
Woah! I did not think I'd survive Bax... I guessed he'd win two out of three fights or so.

Minotaurs, however. Hodekin began his gladiator life fighting against cows, and Orthus will be another head on the trophy wall. Not fighting a puny man this time, but the legendary decapitator!


-Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator-
Managed by _italics_
[Points]
290 + 294 + 290 = 874
[Equipment]
Steel dagger: 64
[Skills]
Grand Master Knife User: 390
Great Dodger: 112
Competent observer: 18
Novice Fighter: 3
Total: 874/874

edit: formatting
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 07:19:36 pm
Perfect! I can begin the semi-finals!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 07:22:10 pm
Awesome, thanks for waiting, I had a visitor all day. And thank you Unraveller for the accurate depiction of our fight!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 07:23:06 pm
Woah! I did not think I'd survive Bax... I guessed he'd win two out of three fights or so.

It was more like 60/40 in favor of Hodekin according to the tests I ran beforehand. Good fight!

I had forgotten the natural skills, and with the skills I gave, the minotaur was legendary + some in hammering, and higher in other relevant skills too. THAT is why it had been overpowered

When the tournament first opened, I tested some races to see which ones performed well. I wondered why the minotaur was even an option until Unraveller mentioned that the natural skills were removed.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 07:36:18 pm
Semi Finals Match I
Orthus the Manflayer VS. Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator

Welcome back ladies and gentle, thank you for waiting! Welcome back to the peaceful meadows, where we see a bovine grazing in his natural habitat! This is one of two semi-final matches so pay close attention folks.

Orthus the Manflayer, what can be said, some people might call his need for skinning his opponents alive unsavory. I call it a healthy obsession. This 220,000 Urist beast is looking to make itself a beautiful pair of kobold hide trousers, shall we see if they come to fruition?

This whole David and Goliath trope just keeps popping up in this tourney, here we have an extremely deadly gladiator, one whose seemed to earn a new title, and rightfully so. Please welcome this 20,000 Urist kbold, Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator! This little creature is looking for a new mantle piece, and hes sized up this minotaur just for it.



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Amazingly one of our most physically dominant gladiators was unable to do more than bruise this little 'bold with his weighty platinum whip! And while Hodekin was unable to remove the cow's head, at least he'll be able to keep a souvenir, a hand to be exact! Well done to the both of you!

Hodekin, if you will upgrade yourself real quick, that'd be great!


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 17, 2015, 07:38:58 pm
Hahahahah yessss go Hodekin go!

Kobolds seem fond of removing body parts. Must have quite a collection by now eh?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 17, 2015, 07:40:33 pm
Supervene? Something extraneous? What? Souvenir?

The gif was cached in a frozen state on my side btw, it's fixed now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Sarrak on May 17, 2015, 07:42:49 pm
Kobold seem like professional dismemberers to me. And it gets slightly horryfying when they mince creatures far bigger than them.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 07:48:16 pm
Supervene? Something extraneous? What? Souvenir?

The gif was cached in a frozen state on my side btw, it's fixed now.

Don't make fun of my typing skills! Or lack thereof.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 07:49:21 pm
I think a duel of large daggers as the finale would be awesome. This is interesting that the large creatures like getting dismembered by the tiny ones.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: NAV on May 17, 2015, 07:50:08 pm
Go crush! Crush that cheater!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: endlessblaze on May 17, 2015, 07:53:48 pm
I want to join the next one. How man points do firemen get?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 07:55:07 pm
Define "Cheating". I prefer to think of his methods as utilizing all of his resources, body and mind.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 07:57:42 pm
I want to join the next one. How man points do firemen get?

That reminds me, Unravel, are we allowed to suggest a race to chose and you decide weather it can work and how many points it gets, or is it only the races we're using right now?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:02:57 pm
Semi Finals Match II
Mogwai the Devious VS. Crush the Crusher

Back atop the castle, magma fumes pour up from that inferno of a sea. And standing close to one another are yet another pair of the smallest and largest gladiators.

Mogwai the Devious has skill with the blade, that much cannot be denied. However, every last one of this snot ball's matches have been won through honorless tricks and deceit. This little guy is 10,000 Urists big and pure, concentrated evil. Will he trick the big minotaur? Of that I am certain, but will it be enough? 

Crush the Crusher is a bovine full of fatherly pride, honestly he is a true hero, an antithesis to Mogwai. He is honorable and fair, and lets be honest, not that bright. I'm rooting for him to bring back the gold for his loving family! This guy is twenty-two times the size of his opponent, it should be child's play for him, right?



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

This cannot be! The scum, the villain, the sick twisted little green guy did not pull a single trick from his endless bag! No, using his speed and small stature the gremlin was able to topple Crush with a slash to the achilles! And soon after torturing the poor cow he ended it with a knife to the brain. At least the mighty minotaur passed with an even mightier laugh.

Mogwai, if you will upgrade yourself real quick, that'd be great! The finals are coming up and it seems the small have wormed their way to victory. I'll see you all again in Heat Stroke!


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:05:51 pm
That reminds me, Unravel, are we allowed to suggest a race to chose and you decide weather it can work and how many points it gets, or is it only the races we're using right now?

Go ahead suggest away, and we'll talk about what's what.

I want to join the next one. How man points do firemen get?

Tough question, and the reason I say so is the fact that creatures like firemen, mudmen etc. are so fragile that a dwarven child will fell them with a single punch, not really gladiator material.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 08:06:35 pm
Mogwai will be updated in a few minutes, I have to work out a little math first.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 08:09:32 pm
Ok, is it possible to be a human animated corpse? :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 08:09:52 pm
I don't think I can wait a whole month to do this again.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 08:11:31 pm
This tournament is insane ! I love it, thanks for doing it, Unraveller !

Will the one for next month be hosted in a new topic or we will be continuing this one ? I'm not familiar with forum-based games mechanics. I seems it would be more orderly to do it in a separate topic, and would also help preserve this one.

Mogwai is impressive ! I really don't know where to put my dwarfbucks between him and Hodekin.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Sarrak on May 17, 2015, 08:13:29 pm
I'll cheer for both fighters!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: endlessblaze on May 17, 2015, 08:16:19 pm
actualy if you give a fireman armor there not as venerable, not the most sturdy, but still not that venerable.

thing is I was thinking that not having armor from the start would be the only thing keeping the fire abiltys from being op


but fire is why I want to play with one...................


want me to run some test?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 08:17:03 pm
I'll root for "whatever ruins the other two predictions", so either can work, I guess.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 08:17:24 pm
I'll cheer for Hodekin assuming there is still Bax blood on his knife.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: kiershar on May 17, 2015, 08:18:02 pm
Nooo! Crush!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 08:20:48 pm
OK - Mogwai's Updates

Before:
Grand Master (14) Dodger
Great (11) Knife User
Master (12) Observer
Skilled (4) Fighter
And 2 Large Bronze Daggers

Points 12*2=24+360=*384*

After:
Grand Master (14) Knife User -195 points
Grand Master (14) Observer - -81 points
Expert (8) Fighter - -78 points
Adequete (2) Swimer - -6 points

Grand Master (14) Dodger
2 Large Bronze Daggers

24 points left
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:21:15 pm
Alright, I'd just like everyone to know that I really don't think it would be viable to run this tournament more often than once a month. Also that it just drains me considering that I have to check back constantly. With that said, I loved doing it and am dedicated to doing more. As for having this on a different topic, I am unsure. On one hand it would keep order, on the other hand, I really like seeing that something I've made has so many pages and views, plus that can make it seem reputable for those looking for a community game. Input?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 08:21:50 pm
-Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator- Managed by _italics_
[Points]
290 + 294 + 290 + 290 = 1164
[Equipment]
Steel dagger: 64
Steel helm: 48
Steel gauntlet x2: 32
Steel high boots x2: 40
Steel mail shirt: 96
[Skills]
Grand Master Knife User: 390
Great Dodger: 112
Competent observer: 18
Talented Fighter: 63
Competent Armor User: 18
Total: 1162/1164
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:23:35 pm
Excellent, I shall post the finals tonight. As for animated anything, that might be a challenge. Considering just how much stronger something becomes when turning undead. I'm sill iffy on firemen, but these are conversations for a different time.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: DS on May 17, 2015, 08:26:15 pm
Is be happy to run the next tournament, if there's enough demand for it to happen more than once a month.

Also, WHOA. Crush saved his points and racked up double, but Mogwai still slew him without breaking a sweat. That seems to point towards some kind of imbalance, in favor of the smaller gladiators.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 08:27:06 pm
I think it will be much easier to run if you have set deadlines so you have all the information in advance. E.g. all entrants needs to be in before the 14th of June, matches start at 17pm, upgrades need to be in by the next day at 10am, etc. I'm also thinking if someone doesn't give you the information, you can count it as no points spent, so there is less for you to do.  (Of course participants can enter upgrades blindly in advance if you don't think you can be there etc.)

We should make a second thread about tournament format and ideas.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 08:27:15 pm
Alright, I'd just like everyone to know that I really don't think it would be viable to run this tournament more often than once a month. Also that it just drains me considering that I have to check back constantly. With that said, I loved doing it and am dedicated to doing more. As for having this on a different topic, I am unsure. On one hand it would keep order, on the other hand, I really like seeing that something I've made has so many pages and views, plus that can make it seem reputable for those looking for a community game. Input?

That's understandable. I'm hoping someone else is willing to host another one soon. I think different topics would be easier to manage and you could link the old ones in the main posts so people can see the history. Alternatively, you could just make a make link to the page of the next tournament on the first post.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 08:27:33 pm
Right, we can talk about that later, and for the monthly thing, I say pick whatever doesn't take too much time from more important things :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 08:29:02 pm
I'm willing to host mini-tournaments or gauntlets after the first week of June.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 08:29:09 pm
Oh, I just noticed, the last fight says "Quarter Finals" when it Semi-Finals. I just had to point that out.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:31:38 pm
Is be happy to run the next tournament, if there's enough demand for it to happen more than once a month.

Also, WHOA. Crush saved his points and racked up double, but Mogwai still slew him without breaking a sweat. That seems to point towards some kind of imbalance, in favor of the smaller gladiators.

The only problem I see with running it more often is that people will likely become burnt out quicker, thus it losing popularity and soon dying out. At least that is my understanding of it.

But by all means, I'm really interested in a separate league that has two man teams, if you'd be interested in that, then awesome. Perhaps find a time to run it between my once a month single elimination tourneys. So that they do not overlap.

We shall begin the balancing process after the finals!

I'd be happy to discuss all format and such as well after the finals.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 08:36:32 pm
I feel that if we do this more than monthly, we may lose interest. It was awesome to see that much participation, that would be a shame to lose that. Too much of a good thing tends to ruin it.

I agree that setting deadlines in advance will simplify the process a lot.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Elagn on May 17, 2015, 08:39:48 pm
Well, Mogwai's going to loose. I ran several tests myself. Mogwai can hit first and better, but he cant penetrate the steel armor. I should've thought of that, but too late now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:54:28 pm
CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT
Hodekin the Legendary Decapitator VS. Mogwai the Devious

This is it folks, the moment you've all been waiting for, the finals! Tape open your eyelids, pucker your collective asses and sit down to see the very first gladiator be crowned champion, this is history in the making! On either side of the magma pit we have our finalists, both small in stature but deadly in skill!

Hodekin the Legendary, slayer of Varick the Flighty (Twice!), slayer of Bax, the Prince of the Land of Stench, slayer of Orthus the Manflayer, lord of decapitation. This amazing little kobold has shown that with precision and hard work, any creature can rise to the top! He comes from a clutch of dragon worshiping kobolds and hopes to bring the gold home for recognition, and to be inducted in the annals of history forever! Weighing in at 20,000 Urists he is twice the size of his opponent.

Mogwai the Devious, purveyor of rude gimmicks, slayer of Narhtan the Crundle Bundle, slayer of Sam Squatch, slayer of Myrma the Defi-Ant, and slayer of Crush the Crusher. This green snot-bucket has more than a little mischievous side. In fact, I would say that he has not a single good bone in his tiny little frame. The deceitful little bugger has no purpose here but to cause mayhem and accrue haters. He weighs in at 10,000 Urists and is looking to trick Hodekin into submission. Will he succeed?



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ladies, gentlemen, and assorted others, that was the final match of our tournament! Mogwai the Devious attempted his tried and true, 'look over there' cheap shot, expecting it to work lowering his guard. Hodekin knows better folks, Varick fell for it. Removing Mogwai's left arm, his blood began draining from the small body, still having fight left in him they continued on parrying one another's attacks. Eventually the blood loss became too great and Mogwai succumbed.


I now give you our very first grand champion!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 08:57:56 pm
Congratulations Hodekin! :D

Now will it be Hodekin entering the next tournament or will it be a new fighter :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: xub313 on May 17, 2015, 08:59:05 pm
Woo! Congrats Hodekin. :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 08:59:13 pm
Champions may not enter another tournament, that is, until sixteen champions have been made. At which point there will be held a grand tournament for greatest fighter in the universe!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 09:02:09 pm
Champions may not enter another tournament, that is, until sixteen champions have been made. At which point there will be held a grand tournament for greatest fighter in the universe!

That sounds AWESOME!
There should be a custom map for that tournament! If it ever happens, that is...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 09:02:56 pm
Champions may not enter another tournament, that is, until sixteen champions have been made. At which point there will be held a grand tournament for greatest fighter in the universe!

Aha ! Pliskin may still have a chance! If he comes back, that is.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 09:03:16 pm
Hodekin's not called The Legendary for nothing!

Thanks to all participants for all the body parts!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:04:46 pm
I want to thank everyone who has participated, and everyone who has not. You have all made this possible. I remember when I first posted this, as if it were three days ago. I was very meek about the idea and thought it would quickly be abandoned, I am so very glad that that was not the case. Again, thank you guys!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 09:09:03 pm
Good job Hodekin !

Is there a way to import a character in Adventure mode ? We should make a gladiator pack !

Thank YOU Unraveller. It must have taken you a lot of time and trouble. I really enjoyed it.

Also the drawings of everyone are awesome.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:10:24 pm
Right! Now the first order of balancing business; I have increased the whip and scourge prices to better reflect their strength in this version of dwarf fortress. I hope everyone we'll see this as a just and fair change.

Spoiler: Whip Price Change (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 09:11:26 pm
Nice job Hodekin! Thanks for running this, Unraveller!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 09:13:29 pm
12 to 28 for the whip seems reasonable
19 to 19 for scourge is a mistake ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 09:14:58 pm
Thank you for running this Unraveller, now for the details of when the next tournament will be active?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 17, 2015, 09:16:14 pm
Thanks a lot for organizing!

Though it cut into my workday on friday, testing out various builds, I learned a lot about dwarfy combat. I was very surprised at the power of the small guys! Needs some balancing here and there.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Sarrak on May 17, 2015, 09:23:01 pm
It was fun. Hail to Hodekin the Legendary!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:25:41 pm
12 to 28 for the whip seems reasonable
19 to 19 for scourge is a mistake ?

That is a mistake, I will fix it.

Spoiler: Fixed (click to show/hide)

I have also decided to lower the discount on dodging for tiny gladiators to 10% I feel this is reasonable, I have not lowered the huge gladiators price however, as I feel that it is fine where it is.

Spoiler: Dodge Change (click to show/hide)

Huge gladiators will be given a slight increase in points to compensate.

Spoiler: Huge Points (click to show/hide)

Thank you for running this Unraveller, now for the details of when the next tournament will be active?

I shall host a single elimination tournament much like this one on the 14th of every month.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 09:33:37 pm
Sounds good!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:35:57 pm
Alright, with that aside, are there any pertinent, or even not so important, questions anyone needs answering? Or anything that needs to be said?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: foxtrot on May 17, 2015, 09:40:35 pm
For the next tournament you'll make a post on the dwarffortress subreddit right? :o
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:42:32 pm
Absolutely, I have a feeling that about half of the gladiators that participated here were from reddit.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 09:48:16 pm
I'm going to make sure to test out my build next tournament.

Prediction ranking:

1. BigHatLogan with 7 pts
2. Tie between:
Me, with 6 pts
Unraveller, also with 6 pts

I'll make sure to open the predictions ASAP next time.

Unraveller: Will you make a new thread for the next tournament?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:51:30 pm
I have not completely decided on continuing this thread or not, I'm leaning on creating new ones and just linking them to each other. That'll help with organization.

Oh and that other prediction was me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Wofi on May 17, 2015, 09:52:31 pm
The bog?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 17, 2015, 09:53:23 pm
I don't think that totally unbiaised is me in fact ! I filled the thing but never validated it. I think ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 17, 2015, 09:56:51 pm
No silly, I am totally unbiased. I have to be, I'm the arena master after all! Yes, I thought Pliskin would win the tourney.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: BigHatLogan on May 17, 2015, 10:17:20 pm
Thanks for the awesome tournament and congrats to _italics_ for decapitating everything!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Zach538 on May 18, 2015, 12:33:45 am
Champions may not enter another tournament, that is, until sixteen champions have been made. At which point there will be held a grand tournament for greatest fighter in the universe!

After someone wins the grand tournament will they be able to return for the next grand tournament to try and defend the title? maybe turn it into a 3 way fight between the 2 finalists and the previous champ and whoever wins is the new champ? that is assuming people are interested in this long enough for that kind of thing to work which i hope they do, could be something nice to look forward to every month!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 18, 2015, 07:44:25 am
HAHAHA yesss kobolds for the win.  :P

I'll definitely be looking forward to the next one and new builds of Varick the Flighty Undying
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Rero Falcon on May 18, 2015, 08:37:15 am
Well, I just read through the semi final and final matches, and I have to say, Hodekin completely surprised me. I thought the only reason he got his wins was because he fought Varick twice. I was almost certain that Bax would win, and was more afraid of his whips than of Hodekin's blade. I guess I underestimated the little guy!

Congrats to Mogwai and Hodekin for making the finals! That really was an exciting tournament!

Also, big thanks to Vityav for letting me do this first. It was a blast, and I hope he can join us next tournament.

Finally, can we all give a round of applause to Unraveller for making this happen? It really was a great little game, and I know he put a lot of effort into it!

/applause
/endspeech

Edit: I actually had an idea about whip pricing. I agree they need to be raised, but I would only raise them a bit, and instead make the cost of silver much higher. I think the biggest thing with blunt weapons is that silver, an incredible material for impact weapons, is very cheap. If the cost was raised to 3x, I think it might even it out a bit.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 09:32:32 am
Finally, can we all give a round of applause to Unraveller for making this happen? It really was a great little game, and I know he put a lot of effort into it!

/applause
/endspeech

Edit: I actually had an idea about whip pricing. I agree they need to be raised, but I would only raise them a bit, and instead make the cost of silver much higher. I think the biggest thing with blunt weapons is that silver, an incredible material for impact weapons, is very cheap. If the cost was raised to 3x, I think it might even it out a bit.

This community is too kind, where are all the people calling me names and stuff?

That is a very good idea, I hadn't even realized that silver was so low in price. I'll work it out with different balancing and such when I get home.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 11:35:55 am
With the exception advice from Rero Falcon, I've decided to reduce my change on whips and scourges by a tiny amount. As well as increase the cost multiplier of silver to 3x from 1x. I feel that these changes will be the groundwork for the balance of blunt weapons, namely whips, and bring about a more diversified cast of weapons and materials to be used in future tourneys.

Spoiler: Material (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Weapons (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 18, 2015, 12:59:57 pm
I feel like that balance was a good idea. Props to Rero for it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 04:04:56 pm
Just so everyone is aware, the next tournament that I will be hosting will be held on the 14th of June. That leaves about a month for you guys to plan out your gladiators and all that jazz.

I'd like to hear any suggestions or thing you'd like to see in the next tournament, so if anyone has anything to say about such, you are more than welcome to use this thread.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: variablenonsense on May 18, 2015, 04:42:16 pm
Hey sweet, day after my birthday.

How many gladiators are you going to allow this time, Unraveller? I definitely want to participate again.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Timeless Bob on May 18, 2015, 04:45:54 pm
I'd like to see a succession game based around different dwarven civs each creating champions that have to actually be recruited by adventurers (ie: "Managers") to travel to the Gladiator Arena/s to compete with all the others who are doing the same.  The stats, weapons and armors for each could be copied into a file format for the actual gladiator tournament in the testing arenas, but role-playing wise, it would be fun to see them trickle in and each get rooms at the local inn or something.  (I'm reminded of the venerable movie Bloodsport (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEo6ogAnoZ8))
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 04:54:30 pm
How many gladiators are you going to allow this time, Unraveller? I definitely want to participate again.

Not sure, it really depends on just how much interest there is. Thirty-two seems like a good number, it allows for a even number of matches. However that still seems like a ton of people. At the moment I really don't know.

I'd like to see a succession game based around different dwarven civs each creating champions that have to actually be recruited by adventurers (ie: "Managers") to travel to the Gladiator Arena/s to compete with all the others who are doing the same.  The stats, weapons and armors for each could be copied into a file format for the actual gladiator tournament in the testing arenas, but role-playing wise, it would be fun to see them trickle in and each get rooms at the local inn or something.  (I'm reminded of the venerable movie Bloodsport (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEo6ogAnoZ8))

That does sound like a very interesting concept, however it may be too complicated for my blood. And I have a feeling that many people participating in these tourneys want instant satisfaction through the gorey fights. That being said, I would gladly participate and look on if anyone were do do such.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 18, 2015, 05:46:42 pm
Hosting a 32 gladiator tournament would mean  16 + 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 = 31 matches. This one was 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 + (16 qualifier matches) = 31 matches. That would take about the same time to do, if there are no qualifiers. If more than 32 gladiators are accepted, I would suggest to have all the qualifier fights in a same post with smaller commentaries.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 05:57:14 pm
I guess when you do the math it sounds a ton easier. I had to do some odd stuff with qualifiers and what not due to the number of contestants that entered this one. But yeah, thirty two could be a solid number.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 18, 2015, 06:42:28 pm
Finally, can we all give a round of applause to Unraveller for making this happen? It really was a great little game, and I know he put a lot of effort into it!

/applause
/endspeech

Edit: I actually had an idea about whip pricing. I agree they need to be raised, but I would only raise them a bit, and instead make the cost of silver much higher. I think the biggest thing with blunt weapons is that silver, an incredible material for impact weapons, is very cheap. If the cost was raised to 3x, I think it might even it out a bit.

This community is too kind, where are all the people calling me names and stuff?

That is a very good idea, I hadn't even realized that silver was so low in price. I'll work it out with different balancing and such when I get home.

...

*froths at the mouth*

"This community is too kind, where are all the people calling me names and stuff?" you say?

YOU... YOU... ELVISH [EXPLETIVE_DELETED]!

No, it's a good call, I was counting on whips taking the brunt of the nerfbat and war hammers being overlooked as a result so I could pew pew folks all over the place.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 07:00:58 pm

...

*froths at the mouth*

"This community is too kind, where are all the people calling me names and stuff?" you say?

YOU... YOU... ELVISH [EXPLETIVE_DELETED]!

That's more like it!

Well silver is a very prominent material for the blunt weapons, so I feel that takes them all down a notch. And also whips, lets be honest, lightsabers are just too powerful in this version. Warhammers not nearly as much.

What I want to see is flails and morning stars being used in the next tourney!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 18, 2015, 07:09:55 pm
We all love the arena master! I doubt he's elvish, despite the occasional flowery description. Remember his only mistake? Giving the only elven gladiator a wooden sword instead of a steel. Hahahahahahahah!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 07:30:53 pm
That elf still managed to win that match, beating the bat man with a stick. Oh, right, I wanted to do some stats on weapons and stuff used here. I'll do that now. Nah I'm too lazy.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 18, 2015, 07:57:42 pm
Against lightly armored foes a war hammer is surprisingly brutal, at higher skill levels I favor axes for sending limbs flying, but having a really strong adventurer means you can whack someone in the head with a war hammer and send em flying through the air before cutting off their head with a battle axe in mid-air.

The axe gets the glory, but the hammer is what killed em. I guess copper would be acceptable though.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 08:07:09 pm
Personally, I believe that your troll gladiator should use two flails.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 18, 2015, 09:16:07 pm
Cost too much and I've never been impressed with flails. Hammers, axes, picks, especially against normal sized targets. My adventure mode bias might mess me up some because I can choose to whack someone in the neck or foot or head instead of wailing away on their shin for half an hour, but hey.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 09:26:15 pm
Yeah, the AI really change what you'll build. The closest way to tell how potent your gladiator is will be through the object-testing arena. And even then the RNG can change the outcome on a whim.

You know, it might be interesting for me to give a little reward to the champions, I was thinking something along the lines of having them describe a creature they would like to see as a race in the arena and mod it in for them. Of course we'd balance it, but it would prove a good way of subverting the desire for more playable races. And allows the champion to affect the future of the arena, just a thought.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 18, 2015, 10:06:09 pm
If you add custom races the balancing will be harder. I think the coolest thing would be to have some sort of hall of champions, maybe an image wallpaper sized that would get updated with a statue of every victor.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 10:08:07 pm
If you add custom races the balancing will be harder. I think the coolest thing would be to have some sort of hall of champions, maybe an image wallpaper sized that would get updated with a statue of every victor.

I hope you aren't even thinking of the chance that I can art. Have you not seen those MS paint pictures?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Max™ on May 18, 2015, 10:25:01 pm
[SELECT_POSTER:UNRAVELLER]
[REMOVE_SKILL:ART]
[USE_POSTER_TEMPLATE:TOURNAMENT_ORGANIZER]
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 10:30:01 pm
Well there! See, I absolutely cannot do arting.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tesseract on May 18, 2015, 11:35:00 pm
We could keep it simple then, a small image of a great hall of champions drawn from DF tiles. Or a banner consisting of a character string containing the character icon of each champion ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 18, 2015, 11:38:11 pm
Now that sounds like something I can do better, screen shot things and paste them in MS Paint, its what I've been doing this whole time after all.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dampe on May 22, 2015, 08:07:39 am
Is it too late for me to sign up for this?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 22, 2015, 09:16:03 am
Is it too late for me to sign up for this?

Well, yeah. Considering it already ended. However I am planning to hold a tournament every month, so watch out for it on the 14th of June. Hope I see you there!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dampe on May 22, 2015, 11:40:19 am
Okay, do I have to wait for June to roll around to submit a character?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 22, 2015, 12:53:03 pm
I think you can make your gladiator whenever you want, but I don't think the tournament rules have been set in stone yet. At least, I believe the next one might be semi-secret, where you only show your name and race.


Unraveller: I have figured out how to change the names of the gladiators in the arena. This makes the logs way better than "Serpent Man 1 bites Serpent Man 2". Will post it when I'm totally happy with it.


(http://i.imgur.com/tuwAedL.png)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Dampe on May 22, 2015, 04:15:12 pm
Oh, yeah, you can do that with customize in the status window.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on May 22, 2015, 05:19:38 pm
You can actually do that! I had mo clur. What is the exact process?

Dampe, you can create your gladiator but like mister italics said, things aren't in stone.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Timeless Bob on May 23, 2015, 03:26:01 pm
OK, I've genned a world and am in the process of setting up a super squirrel secret location for the possible recruited champions to get to.  Along the way, they'll be able to amp up their skills and attain a list of kills and whatnot to wow the crowds at the Arena.  I imagine that if a PC "manager" continues recruiting heroes and truckin them along to the Secret Arena Entrance (retiring them there), then they could build up a whole stable of gladiators to compete against each other.  Best part about this is that multiple copies of the World save file could be played at the same time by multiple Players, so that we wouldn't have to wait for one person to pass it along - The gladiators would be the best of the best from multiple parallel worlds, who step through a dimensional Portal to represent their world Mortal Kombat style...

Of course, the entrance fee for each hero should be an artifact from their world - the hero would have to be carrying it when they entered the Portal, and that would be the prize of the other hero that bested them, (something that still-living heroes could enjoy, until the final winners were living like kings with artifacts surrounding them...)

Just imagine that each manager is one of those "outsiders" that suddenly appear in a world with no history or knowledge of the world around them - it would explain things pretty well if they were like that because they were inter-dimensional recruiters for a multi-dimension hero's challenge...

edit:  Each artifact would have to be unique, if one was already used in one world, it would stop being accepted in all the others.  The finite nature or artifacts in the world would make the number of heroes able to qualify finite as well.  (Unless a hero was able to bring a named weapon or something.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: _italics_ on May 23, 2015, 05:03:17 pm
Oh, yeah, you can do that with customize in the status window.

That doesn't help, unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: MrLupenTails on May 28, 2015, 05:56:34 pm
-- Thurr the Animal --
Hyena Man
240 points

Skills:
Skilled dodger: -50
Competent shield-user: -24
Skilled lasher: -50
Novice armor-user: -2
Novice biter: -4
Novice swimmer: -2

Equipment:
Iron scourge: -56
Oak buckler: -22.5
Leather leggings: +20 swag, -7 points.
Copper cap: -12.5
Copper gauntlets: -10

240/240 points used.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 10:31:50 am
For those of you following this topic - http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=151339.msg6296280#msg6296280

I have begun the signing up for the next tourney somewhat early, head on down there!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn!
Post by: Tavern on June 14, 2015, 08:33:36 am
EDIT: woops, wrong thread .//__//.