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Title: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 10:23:16 am
Welcome, Welcome! To the arena!

Hello everyone, almost a month ago I began a tournament through the object testing arena, it was an awesome success. You may find the link to the original right here (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=150739.0). I have decided to begin this a few days before the 14th due to business. Well, I hope we are going to have an even greater tournament this time! Here is all the rule thingies!

Again, congratulations to Hodekin the Legendary and his manager _Italics_ for their excellent performance in the first arena.

An Introduction

What is this?

A Fight to the death! Dwarf, Human, Elf, and countless other creatures locked in Mortal Kombat!
Arrows Flying! Swords Slashing! Blood and Guts Spread Across the Arena Floor!

To what end?

Countless Riches? No
Honor? Glory? Fame? Perhaps
To be recognized as the strongest, fastest, or cleverest? Most Assuredly
But most importantly, to earn the title:

CHAMPION OF THE ARENA

You'll be the best! Songs will be song about your skills in the ring! Your name will never be forgotten!

At least until the next tournament, of course.

Who came up with this?

It wasn't me, I assure you! In fact, it was our lovely friends at the SomethingAwful forums who deserve the credit.   
One Bard, in particular, deserves high praise indeed!
He is the Founder of the Fight, the Mediator of Discord, the Grand Master himself!

Vox Nihili


We are but feint imitators in comparison

What Format Will the Tournaments Take?

There are many possibilities: Single-Elimination, Double Elimination, Round Robin, etc. It could be Team based, or a Free For All!. The format for any particular tournament will be decided by the Arena Master beforehand.     

How many people can join a tournament?

It Depends on the format and how much interest there is! However, typical sizes are 16, 32, or 64.

How do I join?


It's easy! Usually you'll just have to post a message declaring your interest, and include your Gladiator's name and race!


I don't know much about Dwarf Fortress. What race is best? What Weapons and Armor should I use?

Only the base essentials are provided in the thread. Since this is competitive, its up to you to figure out whats best. Feel free to ask any questions in the thread or on the forums. A good source of information is the Dwarf fortress wiki found at http://dwarffortresswiki.org/ (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/).

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Overview and Rules
These Rules( including the point system ) were originally developed by the esteemed Vox Nihili at the SomethingAwful forums, and were changed throughout the incarnations.

The Arena Master

   The Arena Master runs the tournament. His or Her duties are extensive. They include, but are not limited to, the following: Maintaining and updating these rules, recruitment, running the battles and writing commentary, and settling all disputes that may arise in a just and timely manner. It is essential that the Arena Master remain fair and unbiased. I, Unraveller, shall humbly serve in as the Arena Master for this tournament, and pray that I didn't miss some post that banned these kind of games.

Joining as a Gladiator


   Before the start of a tournament the Arena Master will decide on the tournament format, including whether or not a gladiator's skills and equipment will be known to all or kept secret. The first is called a Open Tournament and the latter is called a Blind tournament. The tournament format will also dictate the number of gladiators who may join, or at least a series of upper limits. For example, in a single elimination tournament typical sizes are 16, 32, 64, etc. In order to join, all you must do is announce your intention to join in this thread, along with your Gladiator's name and race. If its an open tournament, you will need to post your skills and equipment purchases in the thread before the start of the first match, while in a blind tournament you must send them directly to the Arena Master.

   In the event that too many Gladiators wish to spill their blood, the Arena Master may, at his or her discretion: extend the joining period, deny entry outright to the extra combatants, or call for a battle royal to decide who gets the final spot in the tournament. It's first come first serve*, so sign up as early as possible.

*In future tournaments, gladiators who fought in the preceding tournament will have the right-of-way, and a non-random seeding system may be implemented.

About the Tournament

   The subsequent post will lay out the details of the current tournament, including whether or not it will be an open or blind tournament, what system it will follow(Single-Elimination, Round Robin, etc.), whether or not its a team game, etc. If there is something that is not clear, please ask.

The Arena

   The fighting will take place in a variety of different stages as seen below. The two contestants will agree on a stage to be selected. If they cannot come to a mutual agreement one will be randomly selected.

Spoiler: Klassic (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Heat Stroke (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Castletop (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Peaceful Meadows (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Water Hazard (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Vertigo (click to show/hide)


The Version


   The newest version of DF will be used assuming combat and other relevant game mechanics weren't broken. The same version will be used throughout the tournament. The version being used for the current tournament will be listed in the Tournament overview in the next post.

The Races

   The most important decision you'll have to make before the start of the tournament is what race your gladiator will be. Which race you chose will determine what equipment you can use, how much damage you can inflict, grant you special abilities, or even extra limbs.

   Your race will also determine how many points you get to spend on equipment and skills before each round.  This is mainly for balance reasons, but also to represent smaller creatures cleverness.

   The most important distinction between the races, besides the points they receive, is their size. Size effects the amount of damage they will inflict*, and their ability to knock their opponent over. Gladiators that have been knocked over have a nasty tendency to get pulverized(unless they are wearing some nice armor), and is thus a position you'll wish to avoid. Thus, the ability to dodge out of the way is often a crucial skill for smaller players to have. For this reason, races classified as "tiny" get a 10% reduction in the price of dodging skills while races classified as "huge" must pay 20% more.

*smaller creatures can generally match their larger counterparts in slashing and stabbing attacks, but bigger opponents are much better at bashing and punching

   Some of the more fanciful races have different or extra appendages compared to your average humanoid. This may allow them to wield extra weaponry or armor, but it also may mean they can't use certain items. These differences are listed under the special abilities category.

Races may also have special abilities. For instance, many of the animal-like races can bite in unarmed combat.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Points

   Points are the life blood any worthy gladiator. The way you spend them will determine your success in the ring.

   As stated in the previous section, the amount of points you get to spend before the tournament depends on your gladiator's race. If you manage to win a match, you will earn the same amount of points to spend on the next round. You do not have to spend any points to heal yourself.
   
You may spend points on Equipment and Skills, which are summarized below.

Any points left unspent at the end of a round are doubled, for example. Wundle the Crundle has 34 points remaining from the first round. If he reaches the second he would have 68 points in addition to the points he gains from being a Crundle.
   
Skills

   Your gladiator can purchase skills before the start of each round. Skills can be upgraded as many  as 14 times, the first level being Novice and the last being Grand Master.

   The first level of each skill is assigned a base price, and the price of each subsequent level is equal to the base price of the skill multiplied by the level of the skill you are purchasing. For example, if your gladiator was a Level 2("Adequate") fighter and wished to purchase the 4th level, it would cost 3 * 3 + 3 * 4 f=  9 points. 3 is the base cost and does not change, multiplied by the levels to be purchased. Note that the cost is cumulative: you must buy all the preceding levels!

   What each skill does is fairly self explanatory. Please go to the Dwarf Fortress wiki or ask on the forums if you are unfamiliar with any particular skill.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Equipment

   As you've probably surmised, your gladiator will be able to purchase an assortment of equipment, made out of various materials, to wield  in the arena. Equipment can be divided up into two categories: Weapons and Armor.

Note that you cannot make weapons, shields or bucklers, out of leather.

You may sell back equipment before each round for half its original value. You may NOT sell skills back.

   A longsword has a base price of 24; if its made of of steel, which has a "cost multiplier" of 4, the total value will be 96 points.

Materials

   Materials have gotten complicated in Dwarf Fortress of late. In terms of combat, though, materials have 3 primary properties: Weight, Edge, and Stopping Power. [I take no credit for this chart, its taken directly from the SA thread]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Weapons

   Weapons and Shields(including bucklers), are held in your gladiator's hands. Depending on the race, it may take one-hand or 2-hands to wield any particular object, or they may not be able to wield it at all. Please look at the Race table for a summary. Unless you are fighting unarmed, you should try to use all your hands in combat. Once again, if you have any questions about the abilities a weapon or piece of armor, please feel free to ask, but check the wiki first.

Bows come with 35 free arrows and Crossbows with 35 free bolts and are the same material as the ranged weapon.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Armour


   Generally, you can only wear one of any type of armour. Think in terms of body parts, and test your combination out in dwarf fortress to see if it works. If you (or I) notice a problem after the current round is underway, it can't be fixed until the current round is over. For example, you can't wear both leggings and greaves or low boots and high boots at the same time. There are two exceptions though: you may wear a leather cap under a helm, and you may wear a (non-leather) mail shirt under a breast plate. Gloves, Gauntlets and boots come in sets of two. Also note that shields take up a hand-slot, and aren't worn as such. Shields may also be used as weapons and are dependent on the Misc. object skill.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

   
Rule Changes

From Bay12 1st edition
-Tiny gladiators discount on the dodge skill has been reduced from 20% to 10%
-Huge gladiators have been given a minor increase in points
-Whips and scourges have been given an increase in cost to better reflect their balance.
-Morning stars have been added as a weapon type
-The cost of silver has been marked up from a multiplier of 1.00 to 3.00

You may also wish to know that times between 12:00 P.M. to 5 P.M. EST are when I stream on twitch (http://www.twitch.tv/unraveller), it will be impossible for me to post during those times, thank you.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 10:40:56 am
Settings
Format: Classic single elimination tournament, bracket style.
Open Play: Post the fact that you wish to enter as a mighty gladiator and add your skills and equipment when you get the chance.
Number of Participants: (32/32)
Version:  0.40.24
Initial Seeding: Randomly generated numbers by myself, to simulate each gladiator pulling 'em from a box.

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Gladiator Lore (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Tourney Bracket (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Elimination I (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Elimination II (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Quarter-Finals (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Semi-Finals (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: Fan Art (click to show/hide)


Well then, I hope I'm not missing anything. And I sure hope that this will actually garner some attention. And I REALLY hope that you will all enjoy this. I am as dedicated as I could be to see this through to the end, I hope that you will join me. GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 12, 2015, 10:41:44 am
Troll time!

Gotta mow the lawn before it gets hot and I forget if I gave you an updated build or not.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 10:48:57 am
Not since the rule updates, I don't believe. It'll probably be better if you make your gladiator anew.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 12, 2015, 11:21:35 am
-Sath the cloakbearer-
Human Male +240
[Equipment]
Steel 2H Sword - 112 points
[Skills]
Talented Swordsman (6) - 126 points
Total : 2 points remaining
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 12, 2015, 11:42:29 am
Lucan Stone the unbreakable
Human
240 pts
Equipment
Iron two handed sword-56 pts
Iron breastplate-40 pts
Silver greaves-18pts
60pts left
Skills
Skilled swordsman-60pts
56 pts left

Short backstory:  Left by his parents as a bastard child, Lucan stone has spent his life searching for a purpose. Lucan learned at a young age that among the few things in his life worth fighting for are Glory and fame. He would die before seeing his name forgotten.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 12, 2015, 12:40:26 pm
Obuesno Osnukngog the Troll, Managed by Max™

Oak Helm (9)
Oak Mail (18)
Oak Gauntlets (6)
Oak High Boots (7.5)
Copper War Hammer (32.5)
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Fighter 3 (18)
Hammer 1 (6)
Wrestling 1 (4)
Striking 1 (4)
Bite 1 (4)
Armor 3 (12)
Dodge 1 (6)
Observer 1 (3)
---------------------
Total 130

He likes long walks by the magma beach, golf, and barbecues.
Spoiler: Artist's Rendition (click to show/hide)
He also likes that!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 12, 2015, 01:09:57 pm
I'll be joining. WIll post a sheet tonight. :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 12, 2015, 01:44:20 pm
Zavier SaintCloud: Ruler of the Tri-State Area
Manager: Immortal-D
Minotaur
150 Points

Helm, Bronze- 24
Greaves, Copper- 22.5
Breastplate, Copper- 25

Fighting, Adequate- 9
Wrestling, Competent- 24
Observer, Novice- 3
Dodging, Adequate- 18
Striking, Adequate- 12
Biting, Novice- 4
Armor, Adequate- 6

147.5/150 points

Get shrekt :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: FearsomeClarinet on June 12, 2015, 02:02:41 pm
Monty the Dark Gnome

360 Points

30 Points: Competent Lasher
89 Points: Talented Dodger
112 Points: Steel Scourge
12 Points: Competent Armor User
24 Points: Competent Shield User
37.5 Points: Copper Buckler
15 Points: Copper Helm
24 Points: Copper Mail Shirt
7 Points: Leather Leggings
4 Points: Leather Gauntlets
5 Points: Leather High Boots

Unlike everyone else, who's strategy was "Pick the biggest thing" I decided to have a more cunning combatant.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Eritzap on June 12, 2015, 02:13:42 pm
Cadedi Icoricera
Female Elf

Proficient Pikeman (75)
Skilled Fighter (30)
Adequate Dodger (15)

Iron Pike (44)

Copper Helm (15)
Copper Breastplate (25)
Copper Greaves (22.5)
Copper High Boots (12.5)

Points left: 1 /240
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 12, 2015, 02:28:26 pm
Unlike everyone else, who's strategy was "Pick the biggest thing" I decided to have a more cunning combatant.
All I hear is 'squeak squeak, I'm tiny & delicious, please hug me'.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 12, 2015, 03:34:56 pm
Awwww yess ! Time to spill some blood !

Straight from the dungeons of the Royal Colony, House Tesseract is proud to present the beautiful, strong, and ferocious ....

Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss !!!
Ant-Woman (+250)

competent lasher(-30)
competent dodger(-30)

copper whip x4 (-130)

leather helm (-6)
leather cap (-5)
leather mail shirt (-12)
leather breast plate(-10)
leather leggings (-7)
leather greaves (-9)
leather gauntlets (-4)
leather high boots (-5)

Points left : 2


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 03:37:38 pm
Ha ha! Alrighty everyone, I don't believe I see anything wrong. This'll be the beginning of a new great and bloody arena! But where are all the awesome titles! Ah well.

For those of you just joining us, in effort to save some time on my part and be consistent. I'd like for this very simple format to be adhered to.

-GLADIATOR NAME- managed by YOUR NAME
RACE & POINTS
[Equipment]

[Skills]

POINTS LEFT

Thank ya!

Unlike everyone else, who's strategy was "Pick the biggest thing" I decided to have a more cunning combatant.
All I hear is 'squeak squeak, I'm tiny & delicious, please hug me'.

And that's exactly what they thought last tourney, but then a Kobold won.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 12, 2015, 04:07:54 pm
-Dengu the impaler- managed by xub313
Male Human     240p
[Equipment]
Bronze Helm     20p
Bronze Spear     40p
Oak Shield     45p
Silver Breastplate     20p
[Skills]
Proficient Spearman     75p
Skilled Shield User     40p
Points left: 0
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 04:18:19 pm
Just like that thanks! Dengu the Impaler is accepted!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 12, 2015, 04:21:59 pm
Fixed up my entry.  Bonus points if anyone gets the reference.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 04:23:53 pm
Fixed up my entry.  Bonus points if anyone gets the reference.

I haven't the slightest clue. TO GOOGLE!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: coldrake on June 12, 2015, 04:29:46 pm
-Ilpi AmberMead-  managed by coldrake
Human Male                240

[Equipment]
Bronze Battle axe        48
Copper helm               15
Iron mail shirt             48
Copper leggings          17.5

[Skills]
Skilled axeman           60
Proficient armour user 30
Competent observer    18

Points left                   3.5
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 12, 2015, 04:30:55 pm
-- Thurr the Animal -- managed by MrLupenTails.
Hyena Man
240 points

[Equipment]
Iron scourge: -56
Oak buckler: -22.5
Leather leggings: +20 swag, -7 points.
Copper cap: -12.5
Copper gauntlets: -10

[Skills]
Skilled dodger: -50
Competent shield-user: -24
Skilled lasher: -50
Novice armor-user: -2
Novice biter: -4
Novice swimmer: -2

240/240 points used.

(Copied from last thread. This should be interesting.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 04:37:21 pm
You guys are both good! This may prove to be interesting indeed, we've got quite a few humes here.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 12, 2015, 07:26:46 pm
-Hokiak of Dryclaw- managed by DrgnLord
Bark scorpion man (280 points)
[Equipment]
None
[Skills]
Professional Dodging - 225
Skilled Fighter - 30
Competent Striking - 24

Total 279 (1 Points left)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 07:54:38 pm
Beware that poison sting! Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 12, 2015, 08:55:45 pm
I'm interested to see how Hokiak the Bark Scorpion Man will perform compared to Pliskin the Serpent-Man from last tournament. He used a very similar strategy and it worked well for a few fights.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 12, 2015, 10:50:48 pm
By the way, two questions:

This time, will the the after-combat point distribution be public or private ? Last time it was public, but we discussed the possibility of hiding how you spend your points (if any) in order to add a strategic element.

Also, we had a discussion about selecting two prefered arenas and one arena that we want to avoid, and matching with these preferences, to avoid the situation where a gladiator can't be on the forum at the moment of her/his fight. Could we do that ?

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 12, 2015, 11:03:23 pm
Well, due to it being easier on me, I think public points is fine. I also don't have any particular problem with gladiators trying to counter other gladiators.

As for the second suggestion, it is a good idea so that we don't have to wait for people to select their arenas, that or I'll just go random stage every fight to subvert it completely.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 12, 2015, 11:13:46 pm
I am big and heavy, I like the possibility of knocking people into magma, just for the record.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Baffler on June 12, 2015, 11:37:24 pm
Would another go be out of line? If not, I'd take another stab at this.

-Rovod the Red- managed by Baffler
Dwarf: 240

[Equipment]
Iron Spear - 40
Oak Buckler - 22.5
Copper Mail Shirt - 30
Copper Cap - 12.5
Total: 240 - 105 = 135
[Skills]

Competent Speardwarf - 30
Competent Dodger - 30
Competent Shield User - 24
Competent Fighter -18
Competent Observer - 18
Competent Armor User - 12
Total: 135 - 132 = 3

Total: 240 - 237 = 3 Points Left


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 13, 2015, 12:07:40 am
Well, lets give this a shot.

Lumash Zatidar, managed by Mavell_Duceau
Gremlin; 360 points.

Talented dodger (-89)
Proficient knifer (-75)

Adamantine Large Dagger (-192)

Leather low boots (-4)

4 points remain

Just his ludicrous knife and his shitty shoes
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 13, 2015, 12:29:05 am
Varick the Flighty Undying

Some people never learn, and Varick is one of them. How does something that's been decapitated twice crawl its way back into the Arena? It's best not to ask!

(http://i.imgur.com/37cUi1F.png)

I made a spreadsheet to calculate points this time since I screwed it up last time.  :P

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 13, 2015, 12:48:45 am
I am hoping the extra large armor ends up being as annoying as I imagine it would be in adventurer mode, but I gotta go with the troll because of the name/nobody else did one. If I could art I'd draw a trollface with tusks.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 13, 2015, 01:41:52 am
Bark Scorpion Man? Okay, here's King Tuticane, an Egyptian king who was bit by a scorpion and turned half man, half scorpion. Good luck to everyone (you're gonna need it)!

Spoiler: "obsolete char" (click to show/hide)
edit: formatting
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 13, 2015, 01:57:47 am
I am hoping the extra large armor ends up being as annoying as I imagine it would be in adventurer mode, but I gotta go with the troll because of the name/nobody else did one. If I could art I'd draw a trollface with tusks.

Spoiler: Artist's Rendition (click to show/hide)

 :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 13, 2015, 01:58:46 am
Unraveller, put this in your hack/scripts directory as changename.lua, and add "keybinding add Ctrl-N@dwarfmode/LookAround changename" to your dfhack.ini file. This makes the logs much nicer. In the arena mode you can use Ctrl-N in "k-mode" or "v-mode" (basically when you have a selected) to rename them.

It still sometimes say "The NAME stands up", but I'm not sure if that can be fixed. It's probably the job title that usually goes there.

Code: ("changename.lua") [Select]
local dlg=require 'gui.dialogs'

local unit = dfhack.gui.getSelectedUnit(true)

if unit == nil then
  qerror('No unit selected :-(')
end

function setName(unit, name)
   unit.name.first_name = name
   unit.name.has_name = true
end

dlg.showInputPrompt(
  'Rename Unit',
  'Enter a new name for the unit:', COLOR_GREEN,
  unit.name.first_name,
  curry(setName, unit)
)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 13, 2015, 02:09:18 am
I am hoping the extra large armor ends up being as annoying as I imagine it would be in adventurer mode, but I gotta go with the troll because of the name/nobody else did one. If I could art I'd draw a trollface with tusks.

Spoiler: Artist's Rendition (click to show/hide)

 :P
Glorious!
Unraveller, put this in your hack/scripts directory as changename.lua, and add "keybinding add Ctrl-N@dwarfmode/LookAround changename" to your dfhack.ini file. This makes the logs much nicer. In the arena mode you can use Ctrl-N in "k-mode" or "v-mode" (basically when you have a selected) to rename them.

It still sometimes say "The NAME stands up", but I'm not sure if that can be fixed. It's probably the job title that usually goes there.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Interesting approach, I may borrow some of that for the names script I'm working on actually, I've got it where it will pull up the adventurer creation name selection screen and atm I've just got a simple toggle so I can set the name of an artifact or a unit, totally forgot you could do the name prompt like that though... yes, my brain bubbles.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 09:12:44 am
Would another go be out of line? If not, I'd take another stab at this.

Nothing wrong with re-entry, welcome Rovod!

Lumash Zatidar

Welcome aboard, did I mention gremlins are my favorite? Not that you'll get points for it. You're gonna wish you kept those boots!

Varick the Flighty Undying

Why do I bother making a format for applications if no one follows it? Welcome back Varick!

Bark Scorpion Man? Okay, here's King Tuticane, an Egyptian king who was bit by a scorpion and turned half man, half scorpion. Good luck to everyone (you're gonna need it)!

Welcome back _italics_ our first champion's manager! I think they'll keep 280 due to their small size. Oh and thanks for the naming thingy ma-jig, makes it a ton more intimate!


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 13, 2015, 09:18:36 am
Oops, I messed up my testing a bit, making my bark guy superstrong. I think I need to change something. :D

Originally I wanted to try the Serpent Man, so I'm going back to that. Keeping the name though!

-King Tuticane- managed by _italics_
Serpent Man (250 points)
[Equipment]
No equipment
[Skills]
Accomplished Biter (10) 220 points
Competent Dodger (3) 30 points
-----
Remaining 0

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 13, 2015, 09:23:09 am
Because I'm a shit, that's why. :P I'll write it out in the proper format, I was half asleep and had a terrible headache when I put it together, haha.

You did it for me, thanks and I'm sorry. I'll remember not to make forms when I'm dying from migraines in the future.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 09:26:04 am
I'll remember not to make forms when I'm dying from migraines in the future.

The suffering is necessary!

And going to a slippery little serpent huh _italics_? But, uh, where in the ini do I put the "keybinding add Ctrl-N@dwarfmode/LookAround changename"?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 13, 2015, 09:48:20 am
I think you can put it pretty much anywhere, but I with the other lines that has to do with rename.
Code: [Select]
# gui/rename script - rename units and buildings
keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-N gui/rename
keybinding add Ctrl-Shift-T "gui/rename unit-profession"
keybinding add Ctrl-N@dwarfmode/LookAround changename

I'm pretty sure the other lines comes from the Newbie Pack.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 09:58:32 am
Yeah, I don't have that, I suppose I'll stick it randomly until it works.

Probably just me, but wherever I place it, I receive syntax errors and it does not work. Maybe upload your ini?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 13, 2015, 10:27:54 am
You're putting it in "dfhack.init"? Not some other .ini file, right?

Anyway, here's mine in all its glory. My only change is adding that line:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 10:39:46 am
I was most certainly totally absolutely placing in the 100% correct file. It works now thanks!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: FearsomeClarinet on June 13, 2015, 11:39:56 am
Ha ha! Alrighty everyone, I don't believe I see anything wrong. This'll be the beginning of a new great and bloody arena! But where are all the awesome titles! Ah well.

For those of you just joining us, in effort to save some time on my part and be consistent. I'd like for this very simple format to be adhered to.

-GLADIATOR NAME- managed by YOUR NAME
RACE & POINTS
[Equipment]

[Skills]

POINTS LEFT

Thank ya!

Unlike everyone else, who's strategy was "Pick the biggest thing" I decided to have a more cunning combatant.
All I hear is 'squeak squeak, I'm tiny & delicious, please hug me'.

And that's exactly what they thought last tourney, but then a Kobold won.

Does that mean I should redo mine?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 13, 2015, 11:49:40 am
I hope I set this up right! I really want in on this fun community happening. Also, is it fine that I use the same points (250) as the serpent man, since I'm venomous and have a tail instead of legs? I figure we're about the same character, just a little different. If I need to be knocked down for anything Unraveller, I'll change my stuff in a heartbeat, just lemme know! If everything is good, I'd like to say that I speak for all animal people advocates and subterranean lovers when I say that filthy day walkers will remember why they fear the dark!

Also, I had no idea animal people with tails could wear greaves until I played around in arena mode this morning for the first time. I was pleasantly surprised because I thought my tail would be a super easy target. Hurray!

-Setro of the Wicked Moon- managed by The Enigmatic L
(Albino) Black Mamba man
250 points
[Equipment]
Bronze Helmet (24)
Bronze Breastplate (40)
Bronze Greaves (36)
Bronze Gauntlets (16)
(116/270)
[Skills]
Novice Striking (4)
Adequate Fighting (9)
Skilled Dodge (50)
Proficient Armor (30)
Proficient Biter (60)
(153/270)
POINTS LEFT = 1 (269/270)

EDIT: Got more points, gentle mans. My character is ready to jam.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 13, 2015, 12:11:20 pm
If there's room left, count me in.

THE BOAT MURDERER managed by Azhf
Dwarf - 240 points

[Equipment]
Bronze Short Sword - 40 pts
Copper Helm - 15 pts
Copper Breast Plate - 25 pts
Oak Leggings - 10.5 pts
Oak gauntlets - 6 pts
Oak low boots - 6 pts

Left for skills : 153.5

[Skills]
Competent Fighter - 18 pts
Skilled Swordsman - 60 pts
Competent Dodger - 30 pts
Competent Striker - 24 pts

Points remaining: 5.5 points (or 6 with rounding ;) )

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 03:52:26 pm
You're good clarinet, already remade for the 'Gladiators' tab on the front page.

@Enigmatic L, actually, you should have more points due to the size difference. Serpent men are 50,000 Urists where as Black mamba men are 37,500 Urists. I'd say something like 270! And thank you, I enjoy your attitude, the first tourney was really enjoyable, and a great place to have some fun back and forth. Glad you joined up!

@Azhf, you're doing just fine buddy. There is most certainly room, I'll keep applications open until they start to trickle through. Thanks for joining, nice name by the way!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 13, 2015, 04:36:42 pm
Oh, sweetness! 20 extra points? Aw yeah.
I'll go ahead and tweak my character really quick and be done with it, then.

EDIT: My character on page 3 is completed.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Dancing Anatolia on June 13, 2015, 04:56:07 pm
Ajax the Manifold
Managed by Dancing Anatolia
Ant soldier woman - 250 points

EQUIPMENT
Copper helm: 15 points
Silver Breastplate: 20 points
Iron shortsword: 40 points
Copper whip: 32.5 points
Oak Buckler: 22.5 points

SKILLS
Competent sworder: 36 points
Competent lasher: 30 points
Adequate shelder: 12 points
Competent dodger: 30 points
Novice wrestler: 4 points

Should have 8 points remaining.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Desolate Domain on June 13, 2015, 05:30:44 pm
-Flakshed the Main-Man- managed by Desolate Domain
Eagle Man 280 points
[Equipment]
Platinum Morningstar - 104 pts
Bronze Buckler - 60 pts
Eagle Leather Gauntlets - 4 pts
Eagle Leather Low Boots - 4 pts
[Skills]
Competent Macebird - 36 pts
Skilled Fighter - 30 pts
Adequate Shield User - 12 pts
Competent Dodger - 30
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 05:32:53 pm
Welcome, you are both accepted! Those four armed ant women can really pack a punch, as seen by Myrma the Defi-Ant last tourney with her four shields.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 13, 2015, 07:53:02 pm
Can an ant woman wield two shields and a crossbow ? That would be the DF equivalent of the Droideka from star wars.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 07:55:13 pm
Aww man, now that sounds deadly.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 13, 2015, 08:18:13 pm
Well, for the AI maybe, I'd just grab your crossbow and beat you about the mandibles and thorax with it. T.T
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 13, 2015, 09:33:31 pm
Well, for the AI maybe, I'd just grab your crossbow and beat you about the mandibles and thorax with it. T.T

Which is pretty much how the characters in star wars deal with the Droideka anyway !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 13, 2015, 09:53:02 pm
Yup, incidentally it isn't suited for a hotkey, but I have a script that should properly assign names (https://github.com/maxthyme/dfstuff/blob/master/names.lua) to a -unit which you specify with -first and can then apply the last name or cancel those and run the script again to finalize it then exit, in case you want the translated names to show up properly. :D

Though I learned that Obuesno isn't normally possible for a name, had to fake it:
(http://i.imgur.com/zbL0iPc.png)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 13, 2015, 09:55:38 pm
New to this, let me know if I need to change anything! I'm just throwing in a character a buddy and me made just for fun :)

--Kieran the Killpocalypse!-- managed by BritishBean
Human Male +240

[Skills]
Competent Dodger (3) - 30 points
Competent Swordsman (3) - 36 points

[Equipment]
Steel Longsword - 96 points
Copper Buckler - 37.5 points
Oak helm - 9 points
Oak plate - 15 points
Oak leggings - 10.5 points
Oak gauntlets - 6 points

Total - 240 points, 0 remaining

Although not very experienced or well equipped, Kieran has been given a grand and catchy title by his manager. Now he just has to earn it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Dancing Anatolia on June 13, 2015, 10:20:34 pm
I hope he's the best he can be already, cause he ain't getting no training or upgrades.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Baffler on June 13, 2015, 10:24:28 pm
I hope he's the best he can be already, cause he ain't getting no training or upgrades.

Nah, he just won't get any bonus points. Everyone still in gets their racially allotted points at the end of every round regardless, I think.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 13, 2015, 10:34:17 pm
Yep, after the end of each round, the winners go on of course and gain whatever points that their race suggests. As well as doubling the points left over! And welcome aboard Kieran, let us see if he lives up to the name eh?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 13, 2015, 10:35:59 pm
@Azhf, you're doing just fine buddy. There is most certainly room, I'll keep applications open until they start to trickle through. Thanks for joining, nice name by the way!

Hehe, just came up with the name on a whim because I'm bad at coming up with traditional fantasy names or just names in general. Armok forbid I ever have children...

EDIT: Idea: What if you could spend leftover points to bet on matches? I don't know if it's a good idea or not, but it's an idea anyways.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 12:35:00 am
It is an idea, and could be a good one. However its implementation could be wonky and add unnecessary baggage to an otherwise simple game. Love to hear how anyone thinks it could be worked in though, as well as any other ideas of course.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 14, 2015, 12:44:56 am
As a big dumb happyhammer wielding oaf, my points are precious, betting them so I can watch someone trip into magma doesn't seem like the best use I could make of them.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 14, 2015, 02:09:09 am
Hope it's not a big deal but I decided to give Lucan stone a title. Already changed the entry but he is now Lucan Stone the unbreakable
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 14, 2015, 02:29:15 am
Ehh, I think it would be a bit overkill. If you want something like betting, why not have the winner of each match take the loser's excess points after the match?

I mean it's not really betting but it would net 'extra' points, especially if someone is being conservative in an effort to get a big payoff.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 14, 2015, 05:36:43 am
Honestly, after looking at how the humans fared in the last tournament, I don't really expect mine to make it past the qualifiers! Which is why he has no left over points for bonus.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 14, 2015, 06:51:37 am
I finished making my character, but I noticed people after me made the list and I have yet to join them. Don't leave me behind, Unraveller D:

How will I get to drive on the streets of Valhalla all shiny and chrome?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Swords-Otter on June 14, 2015, 07:06:11 am
if there is still an opening I would like to submit this generic elf character

-Varano the Noble- managed by Swords-Otter
she elf 240
[Equipment]
iron helm         24
iron mail shirt   48
iron high boots  20
iron gauntlets   16
iron longsword  48
oak shield        45
[skills]
adequate sword 18
adequate dodge 15
novice fighting   3
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tavern on June 14, 2015, 08:34:25 am
Shotgun Gai's gonna try again, hopefully he won't get rekt again xD

-Shotgun Gai-
Human (240)
[Skills]
Skilled Dodger (-50)
Talented Swordsman (-63)
Skilled Fighter (-30)
Competent Observer (-30)

[Gear]
Iron 2-Handed Sword (-56)
Oak Gauntlets (one for badass points) (-6)

And 5 points left over :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 08:46:28 am
Hope it's not a big deal but I decided to give Lucan stone a title. Already changed the entry but he is now Lucan Stone the unbreakable

Nothing wrong there, titles are lovely, unless they are not.

Honestly, after looking at how the humans fared in the last tournament, I don't really expect mine to make it past the qualifiers! Which is why he has no left over points for bonus.

I dunno buddy, there are a whole heck of a lot more generic humans and elves than last time. We may see one of them as champ.

I finished making my character, but I noticed people after me made the list and I have yet to join them. Don't leave me behind, Unraveller D:

How will I get to drive on the streets of Valhalla all shiny and chrome?

Don't worry, I am an Elephant, I never forget, except for the times when I do.

if there is still an opening I would like to submit this generic elf character

-Varano the Noble-

There is always an opening, welcome generic she-elf. Step over there with the other lame humanoids.

Shotgun Gai's gonna try again, hopefully he won't get rekt again xD

-Shotgun Gai-

Welcome on back Gai, who was it that obliterated you last time? Pisskin maybe?

And hey, we are at a total of twenty-two gladiators same as the first tourney, shall I wait for more?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 14, 2015, 08:55:53 am
I think waiting for 32 is best, perhaps make a reddit update saying there are 10 more openings, first come (ie. posting a legal competitor) first served?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 09:07:20 am
Thirty two sounds like a ton, but actually it would have less matches than if we were to have a qualifying round with twenty-two gladiators. I'll do just that Italics.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 14, 2015, 09:17:58 am
Uric of Nokzomungsg (Battlefailed)  - manager - the Lupanian
Dwarf - 240 points
Silver War-hammer -78
Bronze Helm -24
Bronze Breastplate -40
Bronze Leggings -28
Copper Gauntlets -10
Copper High boots -12
Adequate Hammerer -18
Competent Dodger -30

Total 240

Points Remaining 0

Ok so technically the grand total should be 240.5 but I would have had to do a bit of juggling make up for 0.5 points so could we just let it slide please?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 14, 2015, 09:20:33 am
NEVAR! ALso warmer?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 09:24:07 am
Ok so technically the grand total should be 240.5 but I would have had to do a bit of juggling make up for 0.5 points so could we just let it slide please?

I'll make an exception just for you and no one else ever, because I am an authoritative ruler with total power! Though, I should warn you, that I don't think silver is a very good insulator.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 14, 2015, 09:42:21 am
NEVAR! ALso warmer?

Ah auto correct, my oldest foe, Fixed it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 10:40:00 am
I believe I'll add Gorlaks next time, that'll be most of the humanoid creatures that can weild weapons, except for the elemental men of course.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 11:03:57 am
Are there still slots left? I'd really like to give this a try.

Ok I think I have this right;

Thud the Mad.

Human -240

Sword -  90 Proficient
Dodge - 50 Skilled

Steel Long Sword - 96

For a grand total of 236 points

Description -
Thud is mad. In more sense than one, he is quite insane and quite furious. He is so insane in fact that he believes the noise a sword makes when meeting flesh is best described as "Thud". For the most part he spends his time raging over the position of the clouds in the sky, the direction the river flows, the color of his hair, in fact it would simply be easier to list the things he doesn't rage about. Any attempt to converse with Thud is met with a blank stare, unless one brings up the art of swordsmanship. Thud can converse for hours on the topic even going so far as to quote famous treatises in the field.

Edit; I did some rearrange after a bit of thought.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 14, 2015, 01:22:24 pm
can i change my steel 2h sword for an iron one? really hoping on those extra points later on all of a sudden lol.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 14, 2015, 03:27:29 pm
How many points would a Platypus man get?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 03:50:12 pm
Are there still slots left? I'd really like to give this a try.

There sure are pal, I'll probably wait until we've 32 gladiators to begin.
can i change my steel 2h sword for an iron one? really hoping on those extra points later on all of a sudden lol.

Absolutely, go right ahead my friend, let me know when you've done it, just post the new one so I can edit my stuffs.
How many points would a Platypus man get?

They are about 35,000 urists in size but due to their venomous kick attack, I'll make 'em 270 points! With that I realized that there is no kicking skill on the chart, assume that kicking is the same as striking.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 14, 2015, 04:17:38 pm
Just a small note, people should start adding a sentence or two of flavor text to their characters.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 04:27:16 pm
^ Ooo, that! It would help me to know what to say in a match description. Otherwise I just make up whatever seems likely from their name and title. Certainly not a necessity.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 14, 2015, 04:38:02 pm
Just a small note, people should start adding a sentence or two of flavor text to their characters.

I like this idea.

I am gladiator 16/32, hehe.

Anyways, if this flavor text thing takes off, here is mine:

An adventurous dwarf who got on the first wagon to Boatmurdered. After failing to create the legendary artifact loincloth of his dreams, he went insane, murdering several other dwarves in his rage before getting arrested and hammered for his heinous crimes.

FAST EDIT: We should try to get the first tournament into the hall of fame considering how quickly it grew.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Dancing Anatolia on June 14, 2015, 04:39:06 pm
I looked it up, and Kicking is it's own skill, Striking is for punches. Just so that platypus guy doesn't wind not being poisonous. Hold up, I realized I misread that. I now realize you meant that Kicking and Striking cost the same.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 04:45:46 pm
Is it cool if I redo the guy I made in my post above? I've had an actual character concept, one that I could easily write a few sentences of flavor text about, however it's a good bit different than what I have above.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 04:52:45 pm
Go right ahead, gladiators aren't set in stone until the tourney begins! And hell, if you wanna get me into the hall of legends, that'd be sweet.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 05:08:47 pm
Cool. How does getting into the hall of legends work?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 14, 2015, 05:10:15 pm
Updated Entry sheet

Lucan Stone the unbreakable
Human
240 pts
Equipment
Iron two handed sword-56 pts
Iron breastplate-40 pts
Silver greaves-18pts
60pts left
Skills
Skilled swordsman-60pts
56 pts left

Short backstory:  Left by his parents as a bastard child, Lucan stone has spent his life searching for a purpose. Lucan learned at a young age that among the few things in his life worth fighting for are Glory and fame. He would die before seeing his name forgotten.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 14, 2015, 05:10:23 pm
Hell the growth of that first thread is legendary on it's own, I mean, spam-type threads in a general discussion area is one thing, but a community-interactive game? I had to look several times to realize that it said 2015, not 2012 above those thirteen pages that came out of nowhere.

Just nominate/vote for it, though it won't be eligible for nomination for a certain period, forget how long exactly.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 05:19:13 pm
Alrighty Zach, I'll update the list soon. Ya know max, I suppose people just like seeing things kill other things.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 14, 2015, 05:28:22 pm
Ok I've amended my character post if you'd be so kind to change it on the list of gladiators as well. I think that will do it for me I like the looks of my new character though I'll be interested to see how he fairs totally unarmored.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 05:48:37 pm
The problem with descriptions is that I have no where to put them, I cannot place a spoiler within a spoiler ya know. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Anti-Paragon on June 14, 2015, 05:56:38 pm
Hi, I saw this elsewhere and thought I'd pop in! It looks kinda fun.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 14, 2015, 05:57:49 pm
If possible, could I make a few changes to my gladiator? After seeing how many humans are in here I think he might have a chance after all!

--Kieran the Killpocalypse!-- managed by BritishBean
Human Male +240

[Skills]
Competent Dodger (3) - 30 points
Competent Swordsman (3) - 36 points

[Equipment]
Steel Longsword - 96 points
Copper Buckler - 37.5 points
Copper Mail Shirt - 30 points
Copper Gauntlets - 10 points

Total - 239.5 points, 0.5 remaining

Although not very experienced or well equipped, Kieran has been given a grand and catchy title by his manager. Now he just has to earn it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 06:17:37 pm
Welcome Pok Pok, I wonder just where you got a hold of that sweet candy. And of course, I'll update Kieran as well.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 14, 2015, 06:31:55 pm
Reposting, with the redundant parts tidied up, and a shiny lore piece!

Lumash Zatidar (Frenzy Stabdog), managed by Mavell_Duceau
Gremlin; 360 points.

Talented dodger (-89)
Proficient knifer (-75)

Adamantine Large Dagger (-192)

4 points remain

Lumash Stabdog has his name for a very, very good reason. After a freak accident involving a drawbridge, two war dogs, five puppies, sixteen green glass serrated discs and half a barrel of Giant Cave Spider venom, he just really doesn't like them any more. He's saving up for a nice pair of boots, for kicking things
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 06:41:56 pm
More little bits of lore! And yet I still feel as if they do not fit well in the 'Gladiators' spoiler on the front page. Still up for suggestions.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 14, 2015, 06:48:58 pm
Uric of Nokzomungsg (Battlefailed)  - manager - the Lupanian

"From the once great city of Nokzomungsg (battlefaild) now ruins in distant mountains, came the dwarf Uric, believing himself to be a self claimed king of dwarven kind, he will not hesitate to crush any opponents, dwarven of otherwise, to win the fame he believes will secure his title."

Dwarf - 240 points
Silver War-hammer -78
Bronze Helm -24
Bronze Breastplate -40
Bronze Leggings -28
Copper Gauntlets -10
Copper High boots -12
Adequate Hammerer -18
Competent Dodger -30

Total 240

Points Remaining 0

This is my final draft of my character, I've added a flavor text, and I've spruced up some other text in my profile.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 14, 2015, 06:51:44 pm
More little bits of lore! And yet I still feel as if they do not fit well in the 'Gladiators' spoiler on the front page. Still up for suggestions.
Could you add a separate "gladiator lore" spoiler section in with gladiators and fanart spoiler sections?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 06:52:42 pm
Ah of course, that'll work!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 14, 2015, 06:59:21 pm
Tortox the Sly, Platypus Man

Skills
Talented Kicker- 84 pts
Skilled Dodger- 50 pts
Skilled Armor User- 20
Adequate Wrestler- 12

Equipment
Bronze Helm- 24
Leather Breastplate-10
Bronze Mail Shirt- 48
Leather Leggings- 7
Leather High Boots- 5
Leather Gauntlets- 4
----------------------------
260/270 pts (13 remaining)

EDIT: Fixed bad math, I hope.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Swords-Otter on June 14, 2015, 07:19:22 pm
-Lady Varano the Proud- managed by Swords-Otter
she elf 240
[Equipment]
iron helm         24
iron mail shirt   48
iron high boots  20
iron gauntlets   16
iron longsword  48
oak shield        45
[skills]
adequate sword 18
adequate dodge 15
novice fighting   3

points remaining 3

"There is not much to say about this newly knighted young warrior, she has no legends or tales to tell, she is just another dime-A-dozen knight. Which is why she has come here, winning this Tournament will be her first step in becoming a legend like the great knights of old"

[ I changed her title and added her remaining points as well as doing her backstory ]   
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 14, 2015, 07:35:04 pm
Use [abbr] tags and you can do this and fit in blurbs/etc.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: RavingManiac on June 14, 2015, 07:37:04 pm
Phalanx
managed by RavingManiac

Soldier Ant Woman: 250

Equipment
Bronze Spear: 40
3x Oak Shield: 135

Skills
Competent Fighting: 18
Competent Spear: 30
Competent Shield: 24

Points Remaining: 3

A disgraced soldier, Phalanx (not actual name) seeks to redeem herself through blood and glory in the arena.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 14, 2015, 07:38:33 pm
Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss has been the warden of the royal dungeons for years. She holds the records for the highest number of whipping given to prisoners. Knowing that her chance to rise to the throne is small (she has about 400 siblings that would have to suffer from unfortunate accidents before she would be considered), she decided to try a new career in fighting. She is, by ant standards, extremely beautiful (meaning that her smell is quite strong, her mandibles are well spaced and her exo-skeleton is shiny and chrome).
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 07:54:27 pm
Thanks for joining everyone! We are at a total of twenty-seven out of thirty-two. Almost there gladiators!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 14, 2015, 08:05:21 pm
Tortox the Sly, Platypus Man

Skills
Talented Kicker- 84 pts
Skilled Dodger- 50 pts
Skilled Armor User- 20
Adequate Wrestler- 12

Equipment
Bronze Helm- 24
Leather Breastplate-10
Bronze Mail Shirt- 48
Leather Leggings- 7
Leather High Boots- 5
Leather Gauntlets- 4
----------------------------
260/270 pts (13 remaining)

EDIT: Fixed bad math, I hope.

Some of the details of my character were wrong, so I went through and re- did my sheet. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: NAV on June 14, 2015, 08:10:10 pm
Strokodogaynkin

Kobold: 290
Copper bow: 32.5
Professional bowkobold: 225
Skilled archer: 30

Left over: 2.5
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 08:34:24 pm
I saw it Doc.

And NAV welcome back, here to avenge Sam Squatch?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 14, 2015, 08:59:32 pm
Tortox the Sly, Platypus Man

Skills
Talented Kicker- 84 pts
Skilled Dodger- 50 pts
Skilled Armor User- 20
Adequate Wrestler- 12

Equipment
Bronze Helm- 24
Leather Breastplate-10
Bronze Mail Shirt- 48
Leather Leggings- 7
Leather High Boots- 5
Leather Gauntlets- 4
----------------------------
260/270 pts (13 remaining)

EDIT: Fixed bad math, I hope.

Some of the details of my character were wrong, so I went through and re- did my sheet. Looking forward to this.

270 - 260 = 13. Are you trying to smuggle 3 points, sneaky Platypus ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 14, 2015, 09:09:33 pm
Lore bits and knowledge crumbs, EH?

-Setro of the Wicked Moon- managed by The Enigmatic L
(Albino) Black Mamba man
250 points
[Equipment]
Bronze Helmet (24)
Bronze Breastplate (40)
Bronze Greaves (36)
Bronze Gauntlets (16)
(116/270)
[Skills]
Novice Striking (4)
Adequate Fighting (9)
Skilled Dodge (50)
Proficient Armor (30)
Proficient Biter (60)
(153/270)
POINTS LEFT = 1 (269/270)

Men fear the dark out of instinct, and they are right to do so, for only the most terrible of beings make their home in the shadowy places of the world. Theirs is a darken land where the craven are eaten by the strong and the strong are eaten by the savage. In a home where only the truly cruel survive, Setro murdered and maimed his way to the top of the food chain. Among the animal folk, he is known as the Wicked Moon on account of his pale albino scales and his evil ways. Rumor mongers among them insist he is born of devils and others will claim he clawed out his own soul in order to make room for more malice, but his true history is a mystery to all.

The only thing that is fact is his legacy: those who have challenged his wroth have been left behind as bleeding masses of flesh and bone that no longer qualify to be called corpses.


EDIT: I noticed what you did there at the end of your lore bits, Tesseract. I hope our characters can meet on the streets of Valhalla some day.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 14, 2015, 09:35:07 pm
What a lovely day it'll be !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 09:36:52 pm
Oh man, only four more, I have a feeling that we shall begin tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 14, 2015, 09:42:39 pm
Tortox the Sly, Platypus Man

Skills
Talented Kicker- 84 pts
Skilled Dodger- 50 pts
Skilled Armor User- 20
Adequate Wrestler- 12

Equipment
Bronze Helm- 24
Leather Breastplate-10
Bronze Mail Shirt- 48
Leather Leggings- 7
Leather High Boots- 5
Leather Gauntlets- 4
----------------------------
260/270 pts (13 remaining)

EDIT: Fixed bad math, I hope.

Some of the details of my character were wrong, so I went through and re- did my sheet. Looking forward to this.

270 - 260 = 13. Are you trying to smuggle 3 points, sneaky Platypus ?

No, I'm just bad at math today. I went through and double checked, even.

The thirteen was a typo, I think.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Swords-Otter on June 14, 2015, 09:42:51 pm
so just throwing this out there if it takes to long to get enough combatants and we just want to get this show on the road I have created a gladiator who could fill one or two of the empty spots if you are interested

 Secutores (enter random name here I.E."Jane") managed by THE ARENA
race human 240
 equipment
iron short sword   40
bronze shield       120
bronze helm        24
bronze gauntlets  16
bronze high boots 20

 skills
novice fighting     3
novice sword       6
novice shield       4
novice wrestling  4

points remaining 3

These run of the mill Gladiators are supplied by the arena when there are not enough willing
combatants

again just an idea for if you are interested
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 14, 2015, 10:08:25 pm
It would make it odd if one of them happened to become champion I think. It will be simple, I'm sure four more gladiators will show up for tomorrow. I'm a patient man.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Swords-Otter on June 14, 2015, 10:19:06 pm
yeah I was mostly thinking for future Tournaments if you have a deadline. And I don't think they would do very well they have no body armour and only novice skills   
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 14, 2015, 10:23:36 pm
"Obuesno, that's a strange name. I'm wondering if you'd like to share something about yourself for the people at home?"

'Hi Wondering-if-you'd-like-to-share-something-about-yourself-for-the-people-at-home, I'm Ngog.'
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 14, 2015, 10:32:01 pm
Alright... I know that this is COMPLETELY off topic and unrelated... but is anyone else excited for Dishonored 2 / Doom / Fallout 4 / any other game talked about tonight?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 15, 2015, 12:45:06 am
I'm pumped as hell for Fallout 4. GIMME MY WASTELAND.

Also excited to see so many combatants in this tourney. :D Gonna be some interesting fights.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 15, 2015, 01:10:20 am
I'm quite excited for Metal Gear 5 now after watching the trailers and stuff, that sniper is the most awesome companion AI I've ever seen. Very very smart tricks worked in there having her plink helmets off so you can tranq em, telling her to shoot a tossed hand grenade so it blows up on a chopper. Very cool looking stuff.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 15, 2015, 06:02:52 am
Alright... I know that this is COMPLETELY off topic and unrelated... but is anyone else excited for Dishonored 2 / Doom / Fallout 4 / any other game talked about tonight?
I wasn't even aware that dishonored 2 was in the works, that sounds awesome!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Kishmond on June 15, 2015, 09:36:14 am
Oh, I didn't see this until just now. How many points can a sperm whale man get? No wait, they would air drown. How about an elephant seal man?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 09:56:54 am
Oh, I didn't see this until just now. How many points can a sperm whale man get? No wait, they would air drown. How about an elephant seal man?

I think I'm going to say no elephant seal man. Lets say that if a animal man is more than 400,000 Urists then they pass the weight limit. Sorry, not interested in balancing a 1,535,000 sized creature.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Kishmond on June 15, 2015, 10:13:59 am
Okay then, a moose man. They're slightly smaller than a sasquatch.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 10:40:58 am
They are essentially the same size, so we'll go with the same amount of points as a yeti or sasquatch.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Kishmond on June 15, 2015, 11:41:56 am
-Snamozaspna- managed by Kishmond
Moose man + 110
[Equipment] - 56
Copper Helm - 15
Leather Gauntlets - 4
Copper Breastplate - 25
Leather Leggings - 7
Leather High boots - 5
[Skills] - 54
Competent wrestler - 24
Adequate armor user - 6
Competent fighter - 18
Novice dodger - 6
0 points remaining

Snamozaspna is a moose man enslaved by goblins to fight in the arena.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 15, 2015, 11:54:47 am
*likes Snamozaspna, thinks we should tag-team some little crunchy folks*
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 15, 2015, 01:24:40 pm
 How many points for a molemarian? Actually, since molemarians are probably out, how many points for a jumping spider man?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 15, 2015, 02:52:08 pm
Ahem, I propose that jumping spider men get [NATURAL_SKILL:DANCE:15]:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 03:58:43 pm
-Snamozaspna- managed by Kishmond

Snamozaspna is a moose man enslaved by goblins to fight in the arena.

Awsome, I love moose by the way.
How many points for a molemarian? Actually, since molemarians are probably out, how many points for a jumping spider man?

Molemarians might not actually be a bad idea, though a jumping spider man, with the addition of the best skill in the game, dancing of course, will have 270 points!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 15, 2015, 04:12:32 pm
Jumping spider men are now my second favorite race. :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 15, 2015, 04:31:47 pm
If I had any photoshop skills I'd give Starlord a bunch of extra arms/eyes/hair/spider stuff, add the caption "Dance off, bro" at the bottom, and title the whole thing 'The REAL Gladiator Challenge'.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 05:05:07 pm
I'm gonna pretend I understand what you're saying, right! Three spots left then.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 15, 2015, 05:06:34 pm
The thing with spider-men pro fighters is that they tend to neglect their responsibilities until something terrible happens to their loved ones.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 15, 2015, 05:32:13 pm
-"Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers- managed by PresidentFord
Jumping Spider Man +270
[Equipment] - 165
Oak Buckler - 22.5
Oak Buckler - 22.5
Oak Buckler - 22.5
Copper Whip - 32.5
Copper Whip - 32.5
Copper Whip - 32.5
[Skills] - 102
Competent Lasher - 30
Competent Dodger - 30
Competent Shield User - 24
Competent Fighter - 18

267/270, 3 Points remaining.

Storied hero of the Spider People. Famous, ostensibly, for battling in the nude.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 05:53:27 pm
Dang, that is one six armed menace! Just trying to one up the ant-women huh? Just two more spots.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 15, 2015, 06:37:38 pm
Dang, that is one six armed menace! Just trying to one up the ant-women huh? Just two more spots.

Indeed, I was inspired by the ant-women. But it was the idea of three shields, not whips, that sold me on the idea.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 15, 2015, 06:39:59 pm
Ahem, I propose that jumping spider men get [NATURAL_SKILL:DANCE:15]:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

He's gonna need a sword if he wants to fight in the arena.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 15, 2015, 08:35:44 pm
Oh boy, only what, two more gladiators until we can get this train rolling? And i can find out how many pieces the average gladiator can cut a Gremlin into!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 08:57:06 pm
Yeah, I may have to make my own gladiator so that we only have to wait for one. Totally unbiased of course.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 15, 2015, 09:46:09 pm
Maybe it's time for a last call on reddit ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 10:11:03 pm
Nah, already posted twice. Probably shouldn't do a third.

Swords-Otter had a good idea though, if by tomorrow at 5:00 P.M. there are no new gladiators, I shall create them to fill the final slots.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 15, 2015, 10:48:22 pm
Nah, already posted twice. Probably shouldn't do a third.

Aw, really? I feel like the slot scarcity will get us some entrants pretty quickly. I'll throw up a post if you'd prefer.

I'm eager... if you couldn't tell.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 10:52:29 pm
Understandable, sure though, if you'd like to post on reddit, I won't stop ya.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 15, 2015, 11:22:51 pm
Understandable, sure though, if you'd like to post on reddit, I won't stop ya.

All right I did it, we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 15, 2015, 11:39:09 pm
Nah, already posted twice. Probably shouldn't do a third.

Swords-Otter had a good idea though, if by tomorrow at 5:00 P.M. there are no new gladiators, I shall create them to fill the final slots.

You should make them plump helmet men instead of human though or not, just an idea.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 15, 2015, 11:40:42 pm
No chance in hell they were going to be humans, humes are totally lame! There are just too damn many humans this time around, and much fewer huge races. Let's hope we get some really wild two final gladiators.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 16, 2015, 12:47:55 am
Maybe we could randomize ? Or the players facing them could choose what they want to fight ? Or you make them legit and give the tournament a fair chance against the players.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 16, 2015, 02:07:56 am
Alright, here we go.

Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer
Crundle Male: 360 points
- Professional Knife User, 225 points
- Proficient Dodger (tiny), 67 points
- Steel Large Dagger, 64 points
Left over: 4 points

There was a time when little Cerol was just like the rest of his kind - scuttling about in the darkest of caverns, moving from tunnel to tunnel with bursts of nervous energy - until the day when the little crundle happened upon the corpse of an adventurer, recently slain by some cave monster, and surrounded by all its equipment. Cerol snatched up the shiniest object of the bunch - a gleaming steel dagger - and fled before the monster slew him too. He has been training with the blade ever since, and has developed a fierce reputation amongst crundles (and nobody else) as an accomplished slayer of cave trolls.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: dwarobaki on June 16, 2015, 02:41:35 am
Silver Bull
Minotaur male

Fighting Competent - 18
Wrestling Adequate - 12
Striking Skilled - 40
Armor Competent -12

Silver Helm - 12
        Breastplate - 20
        Greaves - 18
        Gauntlets - 8
        Low boots - 8

"Me big! Me strong! Me shiny!"
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 16, 2015, 03:52:39 am
Ooh, ooh, that should be the full 32! Now we wait for the Arena Master to get back and we can get this show on the road!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: SlyStalker on June 16, 2015, 04:35:20 am
Any spots left? Probs not, but anyway:

Hugh G. Rection - Human (M)

Proficient Hammerman - 90
Competent Shield User - 24

Silver Warhammer - 78
Wooden Shield - 45
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 08:16:46 am
Alright, that's it everyone, thanks for signing up!

Any spots left? Probs not, but anyway:
Afraid not, DS and dwarobaki were the final two. Next month maybe?

Okay, I'm going to draw up the brackets and seed 'em. The tournement will likely begin after my daily stream, 5:00 P.M. EST. Thanks again.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 09:22:32 am
Brackets!

Spoiler: Woo (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 09:43:08 am
And here are all the match ups!

Match I
-Thud the Mad- Managed by Arkansan VS. -Dengu the Impaler- Managed by xub313

Match II
-Lady Varano the Proud- Managed by Swords-Otter VS. -Thurr the Animal- Managed by MrLupenTails

Match III
-Lucan Stone the Unbreakable- Managed by Zach538 VS. -Rovod the Red- Managed by Baffler

Match IV
-Ajax the Manifold- Managed by Dancing Anatolia VS. -Cadedi Icoricera- Managed by Eritzap

Match V
-Phalanx- Managed by RavingManiac VS. -Flakshed the Main-Man- Managed by Desolate Domain

Match VI
-King Tuticane- Managed by _italics_ VS. -Uric of Battlefailed- Managed by Lupanian

Match VII
-Lumash Zatidar- Managed by Mavell_Duceau VS. -Sath the Cloakbearer- Managed by foxtrot

Match VIII
-Kieran the Killpocalypse!- Managed by BritishBean VS. -Hokiak of Dryclaw- Managed by DrgnLord

Match VIV
-Pok Pok- Managed by Anti-Paragon VS. -Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer- Managed by DS

Match X
-Silver Bull- Managed by dwarobaki VS. -"Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers- Managed by PresidentFord

Match XI
-Strokodogaynkin- Managed by NAV VS. -Tortox the Sly- Managed by DoctorMcTaalik

Match XII
-Snamozaspna- Managed by Kishmond VS. -Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss- Managed by Tesseract

Match XIII
-Zavier SaintCloud- Managed by Immortal-D VS. -Setro of the Wicked Moon- Managed by The Enigmatic L

Match XIV
-Monty the Dark Gnome- Managed by FearsomeClarinet VS. -Ilpi AmberMead- Managed by coldrake

Match XV
-Varick the Undying- Managed by variablenonsense VS. -THE BOAT MURDERER- Managed by Azhf

Match XVI
-Shotgun Gai- Managed by Tavern VS. -Obuesno Osnukngog the Troll- Managed by Max

Thanks again everyone! This'll be a good tourney I'm sure. Again, I shall begin matches after I finish my daily twitch stream, 5:00 P.M. EST.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 16, 2015, 10:05:08 am
Welp, it's the fight of the angry naked man with the big sword versus the angry naked gremlin with the tiny knife. This'll be good!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 16, 2015, 10:07:39 am
Good luck all gladiators! May the Arena run red tonight!  ;D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 16, 2015, 10:12:14 am
Oh shit, a minotaur with armor?! Time to buy a can of chrome spray paint ='''D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 10:18:50 am
Will your fangs be able to pierce the metal? We'll find out.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 16, 2015, 10:36:28 am
A scorpion man!!???

I don't think this will go well for me...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 16, 2015, 10:41:31 am
This will be an interesting fight, so much armor...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 16, 2015, 11:20:51 am
My hope is that Setro strikes his arms and legs. I have some chance at piercing his copper stuff, but it's unlikely because of his size. If I can nail his foot or something and get him prone, I think I can win this thing. Otherwise, he might just make play-doh out of me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 16, 2015, 12:45:48 pm
Kobold with a bow?

Interesting...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 16, 2015, 12:55:07 pm
My match looks fun, from what I gather comparing the two I figure it's going to come down to who gets in the first shot. Very similar in skills so I'm hoping it turns into a total brawl.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 16, 2015, 01:00:11 pm
Yeah, good luck. :)

Wait! I mean, YOU'RE GOING DOWN THUD DUD!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 16, 2015, 01:40:02 pm
Uric of Battlefaild the aspiring king against King Tuticane, a coincidence? I thing not!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 01:46:30 pm
I do not envy "Uncle" Dorian right now, Silver Bull is looking strong.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 16, 2015, 02:20:25 pm
If Dorian wins, can you imagine how scared of him the rest of us will be, lol?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Dancing Anatolia on June 16, 2015, 02:22:55 pm
There's only one thing I can say. That Elf is going down. And I don't mean she'll lose. I mean she'll go six feet underground!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 16, 2015, 03:23:34 pm
A scorpion man!!???

I don't think this will go well for me...

Yeah, Kieran will probably be Hokiak's dinner. Sorry for your loss. (cue maniacal laughter)

In all seriousness though armor and steel versus claws and sting who knows.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 16, 2015, 03:50:48 pm
I wonder how many lashes it takes to stop a moose man... It might get intense.

I just realized that, if by chance, all the lightweight gladiators were to fight in one bracket, and the heavy ones in the other, the light weight finalist would be much more powerful than the heavy one, since the advantage of being heavy is static, while having more points gets better at every round.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 16, 2015, 04:00:52 pm
Can I get something to cover up my opponents junk? >.>
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 04:07:18 pm
Elimination I Match I
Thud the Mad VS. Dengu the Impaler

Well, well, well, here we are again at the second monthly gladiator tournament, thank you all for coming! We've many fierce competitors ready to show their metal, let's welcome both Thud and Dengu!

These two humes have come quite a ways to be a part of this glourious tourney, we have Thud the Mad, straight from his hermit shack in some remote mountains, this insane gladiator has come to prove his worth, or perhaps he simply wants to shed the blood of people just like him?

And we also have Dengu the Impaler, channeling his inner Vlad Tepes this guy brings along a mighty spear. His namesake obviously shows it, but he has impaled a total of three hundred and sixty-two creatures, at least by his own word. These two gladiators weigh in at about 70,000 Urists, truly this'll be an interesting match up!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ouch! That was one bloody match, dare I say the most bloody fight I've ever seen in all my time!. Hell, I think a finger landed in my tea! Here I thought it was a shoe in for Dengu at the beginning but man oh man Thud really pulled it off, well done with all those limb removals.

That was only the first match of our fine tourney, and already it is proving to be a massacre, stay tuned kiddos, you won't want to miss this one!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 04:16:57 pm
Dengu almost had it! Reminiscent of The Mountain and the Red Viper.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 16, 2015, 04:19:28 pm
'Tis but a scratch!
A scratch? Your arm's off!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 16, 2015, 04:27:16 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 04:37:02 pm
Elimination I Match II
Lady Varano the Proud VS. Thurr the Animal

And here we have two opposite sides of a coin. On one end, a wise and noble she-elf clad in metal. On the other, a ferocious beast of a man lusting for blood.

Should be fun huh? Our Lady Varano has come from her noble tree court, not disclosing the reason however, perhaps she seeks honor or was she exiled? Whatever the case, she is a powerful fighter to the tune of 60,000 Urists.

Thurr the Animal, what can be said? This hyena man beast drives slaves in his spare time. When not doing so he enjoys murder, torture, pain, and fine dining. Dining on delicious elf-flesh that is! Can our Lady hope to defeat this 65,000 Urist monster?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

A much shorter match than the first! With a vicious onslaught of lashes the she-elf wasn't even able to act! With a few powerful swings of that scourge, Thurr was able to brain the poor girl, looming over her corpse to get that flighty smell of elf blood.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 04:52:43 pm
Elimination I Match III
Lucan the Unbreakable VS. Rovod the Red

Ahhh, smell that? Yep, we still didn't fully get rid of that melted dwarf smell from Cerol Chickenkicker's dunk in the boiling magma. Welcome to heat stroke, where we've two more combatants raring to go!

Welcome Lucan the Unbreakable everyone! Will this poorly skilled human even come close to standing a chance against a dwarven veteran? Doubtful, but maybe the kid can surprise us. After all, he wishes to perish before seeing his name forgotten. This 70,000 Urist human has dreams.

And ironically the late mister Chickenkicker's manager has brought along another dwarf to heat stroke, will this 60,000 Urist guy share the same fate as his predecessor? Or will his spear drip red with the blood of poor Lucan? Let's find out!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Another short match huh? And no magma baths, what a shame. No matter, well done Rovod. Your spearwork was exemplary, though I am unsure if it is a worthwhile victory what with the fact that you killed an unskilled youngun.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 05:07:51 pm
Elimination I Match IV
Ajax the Manifold VS. Cadedi Icoricera

Much better, a cool breeze a lovely little river. The birds are singing and the grass is swying. Oh who am I kidding, I can't stand this meadow, I need something more hardcore.

Well maybe the gladiators prefer to see something peaceful before they fall. Here we have Ajax the Manifold, not sure what her title means, but I sure wouldn't want to face a four armed ant wielding a whip, sword, and shield. This 50,000 Urist insect is not to be trifled with.

But maybe this she-elf can make up for her kin's earlier failure? Will this annoyingly named woman be able to stand up to the four-armed menace with naught but her pikemanship? Let's find out if this 60,000 Urists elf can pull the win!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Did I ever let you people know how much I love to see limbs being lopped off? No? Well damn it might as well be a gore fetish, our lovely elf has managed to win out the day with nary a scratch from her opponent, well done.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 16, 2015, 05:23:12 pm
'Tis but a scratch!
A scratch? Your arm's off!

Twas a glorious battle!

Seriously though that was a fun read and I surely thought Thud was a goner there for a bit. After seeing that I'm starting to suspect that he's going to be a bit of a glass cannon without any armor to cover the soft and squishy bits.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 16, 2015, 05:37:16 pm
Oh great, the LAST person I would want to go against. A lasher, to make things worse.

Yeah, I'm probably screwed unless my copper helm can keep my dome protected. Even then, he'll probably dodge most attacks. In any case, I look forward to it! Good luck vari.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 05:42:21 pm
Elimination I Match V
Flakshed the Main Man VS. Phalanx

Here we are on water hazard, it is a shame, I've never seen a drowning here. Such an outrage!

Anywho here we have the eagle man Flakshed. Constantly referring to himself as th' main man, this eagle dude has wiped out all other eagle dudes like him, at least that he knows about. Hence main man, with his morningstar of platinum and size of 37,000 Urists, can he defeat his opponent?

Phalanx is another soldier ant, 50,000 Urists with four arms -- a perfect place for a wall of metal and a pointed stick. Will her ultimate defense be able to guard against the skull bashing mace that her opponent holds? Let's find out!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Whoo, that is one brutal mallet! Bashing relentlessly through Phalanx's guard as he swoops down to hunt his prey. Well done Flakshed.


The audience has been relatively quiet, I DON'T LIKE IT! Sorry everyone but I may not be able to do more matches today, I'm going somewhere and will not return until later tomorrow. So I'll pick it up when I return!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 16, 2015, 05:46:04 pm
Elimination I Match V
Ajax the Manifold VS. Cadedi Icoricera

Uhh... that already happened :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 16, 2015, 05:46:32 pm
T'was a good fight. I didn't know scourges were so powerful.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 16, 2015, 05:47:50 pm
I'm quietly waiting for my opportunity to roundhouse-kick a kobold in the face. Testing suggests that it's going to be a close fight.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 05:48:12 pm
Uhh... that already happened :P

I have no idea what you are talking about.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 16, 2015, 05:49:18 pm
T'was a good fight. I didn't know scourges were so powerful.

Unless it's changed in the new version whips are more akin to lightsabers than anything else.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 16, 2015, 05:49:40 pm
Oh great, the LAST person I would want to go against. A lasher, to make things worse.

Yeah, I'm probably screwed unless my copper helm can keep my dome protected. Even then, he'll probably dodge most attacks. In any case, I look forward to it! Good luck vari.

Good luck to you too! ;D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 16, 2015, 05:55:06 pm
Uhh... that already happened :P

I have no idea what you are talking about.

I posted that before you fixed it. It originally said Match IV: Ajax Manifold vs. Cadedi Icoricera. Tis good now though.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 16, 2015, 05:55:54 pm
T'was a good fight. I didn't know scourges were so powerful.

Unless it's changed in the new version whips are more akin to lightsabers than anything else.

I increased the cost from last tourney, but I may have to do even more whip balancing, at the end of the day though. People are still going to want to use lightsabers.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 16, 2015, 06:07:38 pm
Well, whips are kind of broken in the current version. You could just ban them from the next tournament.  :P

I mean, really, they are pretty OP. Though it's not like whips won the last tourney, so -shrug-
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 06:08:12 pm
Phew, a brief stay of execution for Uncle D.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 16, 2015, 06:27:17 pm
Good stuff :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 16, 2015, 06:29:07 pm
T'was a good fight. I didn't know scourges were so powerful.

Unless it's changed in the new version whips are more akin to lightsabers than anything else.

I increased the cost from last tourney, but I may have to do even more whip balancing, at the end of the day though. People are still going to want to use lightsabers.

Oh it doesn't bother me at all, I was more commenting on how they actually act in game mechanics rather than their tournament cost.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 06:58:05 pm
T'was a good fight. I didn't know scourges were so powerful.

Unless it's changed in the new version whips are more akin to lightsabers than anything else.

I increased the cost from last tourney, but I may have to do even more whip balancing, at the end of the day though. People are still going to want to use lightsabers.

Oh it doesn't bother me at all, I was more commenting on how they actually act in game mechanics rather than their tournament cost.

I've been playing around with them in Adventure mode and they aren't terribly OP. They have a tendency to fracture bones though, and that has a tendency to make most humanoids give in to pain.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Dancing Anatolia on June 16, 2015, 07:08:47 pm
See, due to a bug in game mechanics, whips are basically super-sonic bullets. They get ridiculous speed no matter what material they're made up of, and the low surface area of contact means they puncture you like your armor was made of jello.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 07:16:18 pm
Lucan Stone the unbreakable

He would die before seeing his name forgotten.

I reread this backstory and it made that battle much harder to swallow. He died before he could do much.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 16, 2015, 08:51:11 pm
Lucan Stone's search for purpose should become a life quest for his family line. Wouldn't it be cool to see his descendants carry on the torch in future tournaments? A clan destined to have their name carved into stone, even if they have to stand on the backs of their fallen fathers to reach such a lofty quest?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 16, 2015, 09:07:01 pm
Lucan Stone's search for purpose should become a life quest for his family line. Wouldn't it be cool to see his descendants carry on the torch in future tournaments? A clan destined to have their name carved into stone, even if they have to stand on the backs of their fallen fathers to reach such a lofty quest?

I know for a fact that if Uncle Dorian somehow perishes in the tournament that there's a spider nephew ready to take up the cause for next time.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: NAV on June 16, 2015, 09:30:23 pm
Strokodogaynkin is Sam Squatch's adopted son or something.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Baffler on June 16, 2015, 10:12:44 pm
Take that, magma pit! Cerol has been avenged.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 16, 2015, 11:01:11 pm
Some brutal fights tonight! Excited to see The Serpent King ripping into some juicy dwarfy flesh!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 16, 2015, 11:49:15 pm
Some brutal fights tonight! Excited to see The Serpent King ripping into some juicy dwarfy flesh!
in your dreams, The only king around here who's gonna be ripping flesh is Uric
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 17, 2015, 12:05:59 am
Pff. King. What a strange concept. Why would you crown a drone ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 17, 2015, 12:19:40 am
aww man i was hoping to at least land one good hit Q.Q

I knew i wouldnt win with that build but i was hoping i would at least take a few limbs off
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 17, 2015, 12:26:38 am
It's a shame too, if Lucan had advanced you would have had some crazy points to spend.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: RavingManiac on June 17, 2015, 01:02:43 am
My soldier ant woman had three shields. Three.

Not a single time was she able to block an attack.

Arrrrgh
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 17, 2015, 01:27:56 am
There's that RNG. :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: ofasgard on June 17, 2015, 02:37:02 am
Loving the tournament so far, it's awesome! Could I request that the initial equipment and skill "loadout" for each gladiator is quoted before each match? I think it'd give a better idea of the contestants.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 17, 2015, 03:57:27 am
Loving the tournament so far, it's awesome! Could I request that the initial equipment and skill "loadout" for each gladiator is quoted before each match? I think it'd give a better idea of the contestants.

I too would like this! I had to keep switching back to the main roster because I wanted to know what the stats of each gladiator were.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 17, 2015, 07:24:19 am
Loving the tournament so far, it's awesome! Could I request that the initial equipment and skill "loadout" for each gladiator is quoted before each match? I think it'd give a better idea of the contestants.

+1  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Zach538 on June 17, 2015, 09:25:48 am
Lucan Stone's search for purpose should become a life quest for his family line. Wouldn't it be cool to see his descendants carry on the torch in future tournaments? A clan destined to have their name carved into stone, even if they have to stand on the backs of their fallen fathers to reach such a lofty quest?

Oh don't worry, the stone line will most definitely continue. Besides if anything I think the last thing Lucan heard was his name being shouted, not because people were cheering it but because I don't think the announcer had finished introducing the fighters by the time that it was over.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Kishmond on June 17, 2015, 01:03:26 pm
This is intense. I actually can't wait. So far it seems ant women have been going down easy so fingers crossed. I don't think size makes up much for even a lightly skilled weapon user, though.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 17, 2015, 02:03:38 pm
This is intense. I actually can't wait. So far it seems ant women have been going down easy so fingers crossed. I don't think size makes up much for even a lightly skilled weapon user, though.

But a bug person won't be casually obliterating any skulls with kicks and punches.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 17, 2015, 04:05:01 pm
Where is the arena master ? The crowd is screaming in anticipation !

If I knew how, I would try to use DF tilesets to create intermission events.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: ofasgard on June 17, 2015, 04:07:37 pm
Where is the arena master ? The crowd is screaming in anticipation !

If I knew how, I would try to use DF tilesets to create intermission events.

We want blood! We want blood!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 17, 2015, 04:20:00 pm
Me since yesterday.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 17, 2015, 04:25:12 pm
Hahahaha, omfg you guys.

It's funny because it's so true. I'm also dying to see more dying.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 17, 2015, 04:36:33 pm
You may have missed it, but I had said that I would be unable to run any matches until later today as I am not currently at home, nor do I have access to dwarf fortress.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 17, 2015, 05:22:12 pm
But ! But ! It is later today, is it not ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Timeless Bob on June 17, 2015, 06:09:11 pm
time zones...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 17, 2015, 07:14:02 pm
Actually, I shall not return until tomorrow, I am very sorry for making everyone wait. :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 17, 2015, 07:40:01 pm
It's okay, Unraveller. :) Stuff happens! We're eager but I dont think anyone will die waiting :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 17, 2015, 07:53:13 pm
I'm suddenly leaving on a weeklong trip to hike up a >4000m high mountain. Anyone want to manage the Serpent King?

I'm leaving now so the first person to say "Long live the King!" will be the official manager! Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 17, 2015, 11:13:39 pm
I'll do it. Have fun on your trip and long live the king!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 18, 2015, 04:38:38 am
extremely pre-emptive drumroll for the next rounds
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 11:09:15 am
Redacted
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 18, 2015, 11:12:22 am
The Gamblers Guild (GG), formally of the Church of Armok, presents the odds for each match-up. The organization denies any allegations that large numbers of people resembling the gladiators were abducted and forced to fight to the death.

  • 0/50 Monty vs. Ilpi 50/50

Poor Monty
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: ofasgard on June 18, 2015, 11:26:32 am
The Gamblers Guild (GG), formally of the Church of Armok, presents the odds for each match-up. The organization denies any allegations that large numbers of people resembling the gladiators were abducted and forced to fight to the death.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

100 diamond-cut morions on Monty!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 18, 2015, 11:52:03 am
The Gamblers Guild (GG), formally of the Church of Armok, presents the odds for each match-up. The organization denies any allegations that large numbers of people resembling the gladiators were abducted and forced to fight to the death.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

100 diamond-cut morions on Monty!

I'm not familiar with gambling rules, but I guess that if you win, you get infinite times the amount you bet ?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 12:24:00 pm
redacted
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 12:31:51 pm
I'm not sure if I appreciate the whole 'odds thing' it seems to take some of the enjoyment out of seeing the actual matches and guessing who will be the winner, but what I'm really concerned about is why the hell did you do 50 matches for each of these fights.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 18, 2015, 01:23:52 pm
I'm not sure if I appreciate the whole 'odds thing' it seems to take some of the enjoyment out of seeing the actual matches and guessing who will be the winner, but what I'm really concerned about is why the hell did you do 50 matches for each of these fights.

+1 all this lol
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 01:25:10 pm
1) Its not under the same conditions or environments.
2) Its not absolute. Who knows who will actually win the actual fight.
3) Why does 50 concern you? Iteration is easy in arena mode or is it that its more about your loss of enjoyment at guessing? (I was just using a testing pattern.)
4) People don't just go for the person that has the better odds.
5) I tried to keep it spoiler-ed so people didn't have to look at it if they didn't want to (People broke the spoilers in quotes though).
6) It won't be happening again (Post has been deleted).
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 18, 2015, 01:35:31 pm
This is what I think of your estimates!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 18, 2015, 02:18:21 pm
Looking at the Tourney Bracket makes me very scared. I think that it will be Thurr vs Thud which should be a good fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 03:24:00 pm
Odds for upcoming matches are a tad worrying, if only because the odds are against me, but it's fun to look at the odds for matches that have already passed. Lucan Stone should have had that in the bag!

Edit: Also, not to press, but do we have an estimated start time for today's bouts?

P.S. big thanks to Unraveller for setting this up/bringing it to my attention, I'm going to be introducing it to my weekly game night group.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 18, 2015, 03:36:15 pm
This really is tons of fun. I like going in blind so I've avoided the odds. Looking forward to the next set of matches.

Oh and a quick question to make sure I'm clear. I had 4 points remaining, so does that mean that I have 8 now and if I were to win again it would be 16 afterwards?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Calidovi on June 18, 2015, 04:07:12 pm
PTW
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: hairypotatoes on June 18, 2015, 04:15:17 pm
Damn I would have liked to be part of this. Will you be doing another one after this one finishes?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 18, 2015, 05:21:21 pm
Damn I would have liked to be part of this. Will you be doing another one after this one finishes?

He's doing these monthly, and this is the second one.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Lord Allagon on June 18, 2015, 07:11:35 pm
PTW.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 07:17:14 pm
Alright, just returned home everyone, I am tired and beat but I shall likely begin again soon, so hang in there!

It won't be happening again (Post has been deleted).

I didn't say you had to delete, not sure if I implied it either, I am sorry.

P.S. big thanks to Unraveller for setting this up/bringing it to my attention, I'm going to be introducing it to my weekly game night group.

Daww, thanks buddy!

Oh and a quick question to make sure I'm clear. I had 4 points remaining, so does that mean that I have 8 now and if I were to win again it would be 16 afterwards?

Well, you would be correct, but you forgot that you also gain your racial starting points as well after you've won a match. As an example:

Bob is a human with 240 points
Bob purchases shit until he has 50 points left
After wining his match Bob has 340 points to spend
240 for being a human and 100 from his doubled left overs.

Hope that is clear for everyone!

Damn I would have liked to be part of this. Will you be doing another one after this one finishes?

Don't worry little buddy, I plan to host these monthly and as Azhf has said, this is the second tourney. The very first one can be found in a link on the first page here. Every month around the 14th.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 18, 2015, 07:23:20 pm
We rejoice from the return of the arena master, but make sure to have some sleep too !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 18, 2015, 07:26:27 pm
Sorry I'm asking so many questions, but I'm unclear on one last thing. After each round do we have to buy our skills and equipment again or do we carry the skills and equipment over? Like I had 4 points left last round so would I have 248 this that I would have to use to purchase all my skills and gear again or could it go to furthering the skills I had last time?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 07:32:41 pm
You improve upon what you had from last round! Don't worry about asking questions, I may not be clear enough at times.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 07:33:37 pm
Sorry I'm asking so many questions, but I'm unclear on one last thing. After each round do we have to buy our skills and equipment again or do we carry the skills and equipment over? Like I had 4 points left last round so would I have 248 this that I would have to use to purchase all my skills and gear again or could it go to furthering the skills I had last time?

Anyone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe all skills and gear carry over. You can sell back gear at 50% cost, but your skills are there to stay.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 07:52:46 pm
Elimination I Match VI
King Tuticane VS. Uric of Battlefailed

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

High upon the top of the castle heat stroke we have two noble warriors.

A slithering serpent from cavernous regions. Some say they've simply bought their way into the tourney with their many exuberant gifts, and fresh bath soaps. I know nothing of this of course, I am unsure of what would bring this 50,000 Urist snake to the competition and I can't be sure there are any good intentions.

And his opponent? The would-be king, Uric of Battlefailed, a ruined kingdom once rife with life. Now this dwarf standing just a bit broader than Tuticane at 60,000 Urists intends to gain fame through the gladiatorial combat and use it to wield the power of a noble, will he succeed?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Boy I guess his name fits even more now, hardly able to land blows on this monstrous king. It would seem that the poor dwarf would at least serve some noble purpose, being the delicious food for ruler of a kingdom.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 07:58:13 pm
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Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)


Fucking beautiful. Best fight yet! All hail the king of serpents
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 08:00:34 pm
Oops, looks like I screwed up that battle log. Ah well, it goes on like that until the poor guy finally falls.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Calidovi on June 18, 2015, 08:02:24 pm
Are certain species banned from this event, and is there a place to review how many points you would get if your gladiator were to be species x instead of species y?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 18, 2015, 08:04:50 pm
Ah, that was a good fight! And now it's time to see how Lumash goes!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 08:07:44 pm
Elimination I Match VII
Lumash Zatidar VS. Sath the Cloakbearer

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Mmmm, I just love that smell. Burnt corpses, there's something about that aroma that really sets me off!

Anywho, here surrounded by boiling magma stands two very under-dressed gladiators. On one side stands a small green bugger wielding a dagger of blue sheen. Such a deadly weapon couldn't possibly be used wrong in the hands of a 10,000 Urist creature who calls itself Frenzy Stabdog, could it?

On the other side of the burning pit is Sath the Cloakbearer, his manager has returned after the embarrassing defeat of Steapa the Northman. This man came shrouded in a grand cloak, which he shortly disrobed from of course to reveal his gigantic sword. Can Lumash even hope to defeat the well muscled 70,000 Urist human?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Aha! That's what I want, another reason to work on my surgery skills, numerous limbs flying everywhere. Though Sath finally decides to end it with a brütal decapitation!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 08:09:58 pm
Are certain species banned from this event, and is there a place to review how many points you would get if your gladiator were to be species x instead of species y?

If you are speaking of animal men then any who are larger than yetis / sasquatches are just to big to fit through the arena doors. On your second point, if you are still talking about animal men, you will simply have to ask or message myself to find out how many points that an animal man will receive as there are far to many variations for me to add them all to the 'races' chart on the first page.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 18, 2015, 08:10:50 pm
Ooooeck, that was downright grisly! Ah, if only i'd dodged the first strike. Lumash got Sath's legs though! Ahh, poor poor Lumash.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 18, 2015, 08:13:25 pm
Another close fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 08:14:35 pm
That was a good fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 08:17:07 pm
Ooooeck, that was downright grisly! Ah, if only i'd dodged the first strike. Lumash got Sath's legs though! Ahh, poor poor Lumash.

That tenacity though, his entrails were hanging out the entire time!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 18, 2015, 08:22:19 pm
Well, it was clear he had guts!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 08:24:45 pm
Elimination I Match VIII
Kieran the Killpocalypse! VS. Hokiak of Dryclaw

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Oh boy! Armok really wants to see some magma baths tonight!

And here are our victims gladiators, Kieran is a man, not so well trained, not so well equiped. What the heck is he doing here you ask? Has he even earned the name 'Killpocalypse!', almost certainly not. I mean it has an exclamation mark for crying out loud! Ah well, it can't be helped.

From a desert tribe far to the west comes the creature we know as Hokiak of Dryclaw. I've heard that this elderly 35,001.5 Urist scorpion man works as some sorta shady in between for all sorts of trading and stuff. Well, what has brought this old guy out here has me beat, why not let him have some fun huh?



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Now that is one deadly old fart! These gladiators may need to have some restrictions on their natural powers, oh man! Honestly, I've no clue what kind of venom a scorpion man outputs, but it probably isn't pretty.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 18, 2015, 08:25:12 pm
Well, it was clear he had guts!

Ha ! Good one.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 18, 2015, 08:28:34 pm
Y'know, maybe once the qualifiers are done we could have a battle brawl royale between all of the losers at once, just to see some more blood and guts. 'Course, if its a pain to arrange then it's not needed, but maybe it's a thought.

EDIT: oh my, that was a nasty fight. That bark scorpion venom must really pack a punch!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 08:30:42 pm
Well, it was clear he had guts!

lololol I just tried to find a gif of the war drummer trolls from LOTR for a high fantasy rimshot, but no luck.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 08:42:04 pm
Thought the copper gauntlets would've been more protective. That was an unexpected start.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 08:45:15 pm
Thought the copper gauntlets would've been more protective. That was an unexpected start.

Yeah I was wondering about that, whether it actually penetrated or was just an override. Armor can deflect bites, right? Should do the same for stings.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 18, 2015, 08:53:48 pm
Thought the copper gauntlets would've been more protective. That was an unexpected start.

Yeah I was wondering about that, whether it actually penetrated or was just an override. Armor can deflect bites, right?

It can deflect all the natural attacks I think.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I was worried about the armored opponents because of it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 08:54:32 pm
Elimination I Match VIV
Pok Pok VS. Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

There is truly something special about that good ole klassic arena feel, especially when two midgets are duking it out!!

Midget number one would be a Kobold who seems to constantly mutter to himself, often repeating, 'Pok Pok' we assume that is the guy's name. And I honestly have no idea where all these tiny critters get a hold of powerful candy artifacts. But can this 20,000 Urist kobold use it well?

Number two is our only gladiator with a comma in his name, give it up for the pint sized red scaled crundle Cerol! A great passtime of his is of course slaying trolls with the less spectacular steel dagger. Standing at half of Pok Pok's size, will this famous, by crundle reckoning, guy be able to defeat the better equipped kobold?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Aha ha ha! The little guy managed to do it, which shows you, experience over gleaming metal any day. Well done everyone. And strangely Pok Pok decided to throw off his leather cap, what an odd little 'bold.

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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 18, 2015, 08:57:27 pm
I like how Hoklak went straight for the wrists, despite the fact that Kieran wasn't wearing anything beneath the waist.

Also, Cerol should spend his extra points (if he has enough) on a adamantine dagger, so he can say he looted it from Pok Pok.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 09:01:00 pm
BRING OUT THE BEAST!

Also, nothin' like a pint-sized knife fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 18, 2015, 09:10:32 pm
Without a doubt, match VII has been the best so far.  They hacked off each other's legs, then proceeded to stab until one of them landed a headshot, lol.  BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 18, 2015, 09:27:58 pm
Elimination I Match X
Silver Bull VS. "Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

At last, vertigo, shall we see some bridge falling off action? I sure hope so!

Silver Bull, a mighty creature indeed. I'm sure you already know this, but Mister Bull is a superhero, a warrior for justice and courage. Standing at a sizable 220,000 Urists gleaming from head to toe in his glorious silver armor. Surely he shall be the victor here no?

Of will yet another superhero, Uncle Dorian, the six-armed spiderman be able to pull out the victory with his small stature of 35,000.5 Urists. Don't be fooled though, this guy flays baddies with his salvo of whipping action, whilst hiding behind a wall of wood of course. This should be good!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Gotta say, I was expecting something a little more, dramatic. A bit more climactic, what a shame, personally Silver Bull will always hold a place in my heart!


I'd like to finish the Elimination round tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 18, 2015, 09:32:06 pm
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)
Uncle D you beautiful bastard! I always had faith, no really.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Lupanian on June 18, 2015, 10:11:22 pm
Just got to read for the first time
What do you mean could hardly land a hit, he gave that snake a right good beating considering he had VENOM in my veins! Uric may have lost but he put up a damn good fight before going down, I mean he got up after being paralyzed like five times, if had kept his hammer that snake would be mush
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 18, 2015, 10:20:54 pm
Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Brutal! Gotta love the spreading pool of blood as Cerol goes full stab...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 18, 2015, 10:36:49 pm
We might want an FAQ, just to clarify some things. Also, those were some nice fights! Hopefully those whips aren't as potent in my match up...

As a side note though, we might need to balance whips(and similar OP weapons) a bit more next tournament, they really are ridiculously powerful.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 19, 2015, 12:14:24 am
They aren't as OP as you think. They are certainly good though. Silver Bull was favored over Dorian. And Ajax was in disfavor against Cadedi. You can't really determine anything regarding anything (especially balance) from a single match.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 19, 2015, 12:31:43 am
They aren't as OP as you think. They are certainly good though. Silver Bull was favored over Dorian. And Ajax was in disfavor against Cadedi. You can't really determine anything regarding anything (especially balance) from a single match.

That's why it's still a good idea to do statistical fights. But maybe not reveal the odds until after the fight. That way we'll be able see what needs to be balanced and in what measure.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 19, 2015, 03:11:50 am
Poor Kieran never stood a chance. Well fought scorpion man.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 03:44:22 pm
Alright, I shall be finishing the first elimination round soon!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 04:47:55 pm
Elimination I Match XI
Strokodogaynkin VS. Tortox the Sly

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

I wonder if we'll see a drowning here back on water hazard. I so enjoy when gladiators use their surroundings to win!

Up first we have, uh, Stro-ko-do-gayn-kin? Right, this little kobold has a nigh unpronounceable name. Try saying it quickly, anyway, this 20,000 Urist bugger brought along a bow, making him the only ranged competitor here. Will it do him any good?

And his opponent is the very shady renowned kickboxer Tortox. With his mach speed legs and poison barbs too, this gladiator may have a very good chance of making all the way. He stands at 36,000 Urists and is not to be taken lightly!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Quickly leaping out of the oncoming storm of copper, Tortox was able to place a couple of excellent kicks to send whatever you call it to an early retirement.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 04:56:12 pm
Elimination I Match XII
Snamozaspna VS. Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Peaceful and woodsy, we are here in the meadows with a menacing moose and an ant-woman.

This unfortunate soul whose name is even less pronounceable than Strokodokopokoloko from the previous match. Standing at 297,500 Urists this poor moose man is being forced to fight in the arena by his goblin slave masters. Let's hope that he can win his freedom.

And his opponent? A princess, Klackon something or another, apparently she has over four-hundred other siblings who would be picked before she would rise to the throne. So why not become a gladiator, sound idea huh? This pretty woman is a measly 50,000 Urists, but her whips make up for that fact!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Well, a shame. Though I suppose our moose friend has escaped slavery. With a valiant effort no less, a moment of silence please. Well done princess!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 05:04:56 pm
Elimination I Match XIII
Zavier SaintCloud VS. Setro of the Wicked Moon

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

A snake and a bull are standing over a magma pit. This isn't the start of a bad joke, it's the next match!

This 220,000 Urist minotaur is a world famous wrestler apparently, and he says that he is gonna squash the life outta that little reptile, smashing each and every bone until he squeals like a little piglet. Well, lets see if that'll be the case!

Setro is a black mamba man, much like his serpent brethren he holds a powerful venom that paralyzes his target. Just one bite and the bull will be down. At least, that is what this 36,000 Urist snake man thinks!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Aha yes! That is what I wanted to see, roasted snake. Just smell that lovely aroma! This makes Zavier the second minotaur to cook food live here at heat stroke!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 19, 2015, 05:33:43 pm
Well those were fun!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 05:44:09 pm
Elimination I Match XIV
Monty the Dark Gnome VS. Ilpi AmberMead

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Now that is one delicious smell coming from right below our gladiators, smoked snake. Mmmmm.

On the left side we have a very tiny creature. Monty is a mischievous gnome standing at roughly 15,000 Urists. I've gotten word from the totally legal betting corner that this little guy has zero chance of winning this match. Well, that is a sad thing.

Can he possibly hope to best his opponent Ilpi? A grand dwarf-like man, stout in size at 70,000 Urists with a luxurious beard. In one hand an axe of bronze, in the other, some lovely looking mead. This'll be easy work for the man who towers over his opponent.


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Against all odds! He's actually done it, Monty has actually defeated Ilpi. Those lousy gamblers are clearly trying to pull our legs!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 19, 2015, 06:09:47 pm
I got hit in the finger (which explodes lol) and fell unconscious?! Damn it! And I survived so many blows while I was unconscious! Bah!

+100 for dying in the lava in the middle, though. That was a pretty cool way to go. I didn't think my armor would hold up so well, too. I knew I should've bought an adamantine thimble to put on my first finger, left hand like that gibbering old fortune teller told me the day before the match. I'll never kill an old lady for spouting nonsense again!

EDIT: That bronze took a couple of minotaur punches and horn attacks, looking at it again. I mean, goddamn. This is why armor is super important but also why it's useless sometimes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 06:14:00 pm
Elimination I Match XV
Varick the Undying VS. THE BOAT MURDERER

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Were almost finished here folks, just one more match after this klassic romp.

Ah, back again I see. Varick the 20,000 Urist kobold has been pieced back together quite a few times by your truly. I don't know how that head of his is still attached. Well, he is returned to redeem himself. A round of applause everyone!

And his opponent is a dwarf straight from the hellscape that is Boatmurdered. The man has grown insane in his horrid time living in such a place. He gibbers constantly about elephants and magma, so I suppose that he cannot be so different than a kobold. Let it begin!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Well done Varick, you've actually made it past the first round! Though, what sort of victory is against someone as impaired as that? Well done non the less.


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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 19, 2015, 06:19:41 pm
Damn. I knew I would lose, but I was at least hoping my copper helm would hold true for longer, much like the other dwarf's did. GG Varick, you kobold bastard. I shall return next month, with a new gladiator! And know that I shall study long and hard and find the greatest gladiator to ever live!

That said, I will be sticking around for the rest of the tournament.

Also, I think that the champion of this tournament should fight the champion of tournament #1, for fun. Maybe let them have one last round of points too? And sorry to ramble on, but I want to +1 on that Battle Royale with all of the losers.

EDIT: He didn't even have any armor, and yet when I stabbed him I only tore fat. I don't deserve to be called a dwarf.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 06:20:41 pm
Elimination I Match XVI
Shotgun Gai VS. Obuesno Osnukngog the Troll

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

And for our final first round elimination match, let's see someone drown huh?

Another return-e straight from a far away land, wielding his famed blade and runed gauntlet, give it up for Shotgun Gai! He's a bit of a legend back home, though last month he wasn't so tough, has this dude bulked up since then? Let's find out!

And the last gladiator to be announced, straight from his home and loving family, Obuesno Osnukngog! Back home he has three children and a loving wife. This 250,000 Urist troll is looking to bring home the gold back to his family, can he do it?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Well, look at that cyan blood splatter all over, ya know, I can't help but feel sorry for the old troll. I'll go patch him up.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 19, 2015, 06:30:25 pm
Is the second round starting tonight or are you going to start it tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tavern on June 19, 2015, 06:39:08 pm
Yeahhhh! Strong start, hopefully Gai can keep that up!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 19, 2015, 06:45:37 pm
No no no, this was a terrible misunderstanding.  As you can see from the battle log, Setro simply tripped, making it look as though he was trying to bite me.  When he fell in the lava, Zavier grabbed at his arms, trying to save him.  Darn shame, that :P

So how does advance work exactly?  Do I get another 150 points (or hopefully more)?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 06:47:28 pm
Well done gladiators, a loser's all out brawl will be held to blow off some of that loser steam. I will begin the second elimination round tomorrow.

Spoiler: New Bracket (click to show/hide)

Match I
-Thud the Mad- Managed by Arkansan VS. -Thurr the Animal- Managed by MrLupenTails

Match II
-Rovod the Red- Managed by Baffler VS. -Cadedi Icoricera- Managed by Eritzap

Match III
-Flakshed the Main-Man- Managed by Desolate Domain VS. -King Tuticane- Managed by _italics_/xub313

Match IV
-Sath the Cloakbearer- Managed by foxtrot VS. -Hokiak of Dryclaw- Managed by DrgnLord

Match V
-Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer- Managed by DS VS. -"Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers- Managed by PresidentFord

Match VI
-Tortox the Sly- Managed by DoctorMcTaalik VS. -Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss- Managed by Tesseract

Match VII
-Zavier SaintCloud- Managed by Immortal-D VS. -Monty the Dark Gnome- Managed by FearsomeClarinet

Match VIII
-Varick the Undying- Managed by variablenonsense VS. -Shotgun Gai- Managed by Tavern

Those of you who have managed to win may begin to upgrade your gladiators, post them of course. And if you are unable to do so by your match, I shall choose the most relevant upgrades for you.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 06:48:13 pm
So how does advance work exactly?  Do I get another 150 points (or hopefully more)?

You recieve whatever points your race begins with as well as getting any points left over from the first round doubled.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 19, 2015, 06:50:21 pm
So how does advance work exactly?  Do I get another 150 points (or hopefully more)?

You recieve whatever points your race begins with as well as getting any points left over from the first round doubled.
Sweet!  I'll post my updated Minotaur here.

Zavier SaintCloud: Ruler of the Tri-State Area
Manager: Immortal-D
Minotaur
300 points
2.5*2 leftover, +5

Helm, Bronze- 24
Greaves, Copper (sold)+ 11.5
Breastplate, Copper (sold)+ 12.5
Breastplate, Bronze- 40
Greaves, Bronze- 36
Gauntles, Bronze- 16
High Boots, Bronze- 20

Fighting, Adequate- 9
Wrestling, Talented- 60
Observer, Novice- 3
Dodging, Adequate- 18
Striking, Talented- 72
Biting, Novice- 4
Armor, Skilled- 20

322/329 points

Having completed my upgrade, I realize just how completely outmatched the larger characters are.  The point allotment of the tiny creatures means they exponentially surpass the big guys after just 1 round.  Still, should be an interesting set of bouts.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 19, 2015, 07:03:59 pm
Ah, good show! I look forward to the next bracket, and the battle royale!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 07:12:18 pm
Unfortunately my gif recording thing has crashed twice trying to do this. I tire of setting it up. Would anyone else like to do the little loser's battle royale for me? I'd be very grateful.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 19, 2015, 07:15:21 pm
These were some nice fights! I'll have King Tuticane updated soon. (I'm subbing in for _italics_ if you didn't already know)

Unfortunately my gif recording thing has crashed twice trying to do this. I tire of setting it up. Would anyone else like to do the little loser's battle royale for me? I'd be very grateful.

I can record it. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 07:18:27 pm
Anyone who feels the need to do their own guest narration and record the royale and what not may very well do so.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 19, 2015, 07:43:23 pm
So how exactly does the point system work if I want to buy levels when im past 0.

for example Sath has level 6 swordsman so how much would it cost to go to level 7?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 07:55:56 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/E2d39bg.jpg)

Read the italiced sentence on top.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 19, 2015, 08:04:43 pm
Ayyyy, Varick made it past eliminations!

I guess meeting death a few times changes you. ;D

Unraveller,  will you be doing tourney stuff around the same time? Not able to get to my comp right now to format upgrades but should be able to before this time tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 19, 2015, 08:12:43 pm
I appreciate the loser championship battle royal. I was quite morose over dying in such a way :(

I forgive you, Immortal-D! I understand now that you were just trying to help get the duel underway and I just rolled a critical miss. Terrible bout of misfortune, wot?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 19, 2015, 08:18:53 pm
Ok I think I got it
So my new setup is

-Sath the Cloakbearer- Managed by Foxtrot
Human +240 +240round1
[Equipment]
Steel 2H Sword - 112 points
[Skills]
Accomplished Swordsman (10) - 330 points
Competent Dodger (3) - 30 points
Total : 8 points remaining

Also my character Lore
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 19, 2015, 08:21:20 pm
Ooh, very nice drawing of Sath. I assume he's also noted for the two enormous scars he has just below the knee on both legs, and the disgusting gremlin-blood stains all over him.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 19, 2015, 08:23:31 pm
Ooh, very nice drawing of Sath. I assume he's also noted for the two enormous scars he has just below the knee on both legs, and the disgusting gremlin-blood stains all over him.

Lol :D thats a good idea actually il do a second version after the fight!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 19, 2015, 08:40:39 pm
And here is Sath after the first round against - Lumash Zatidar - :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 19, 2015, 08:45:19 pm
OOOOH YEAAAAH.  Big beef man in the hoousse!

That was a good warmup (haw), but now we're getting serious.  You hear that little Gnome?  I pick runts like you off my horns for breakfast, and when we meet, you'll be begging me to snap your head with my mad wrestling skills!  SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!!!


I had to get that out of my system, since my RPG group has explicitly banned both me & and my characters from acting, resembling, or in any way taking on the characteristic mannerisms of Macho Man Randy Savage.  Their loss :(
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 19, 2015, 08:52:03 pm
Alright, so I'll take charge of the loser's bracket, unless Unraveller wants to do something different.

Here's the loser's bracket.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm thinking no upgrading for the loser's. It'll make things quicker and won't distract from the main tourney. If anyone wants me to change something, speak up. I'll start recording tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 19, 2015, 08:52:46 pm
-Hokiak of Dryclaw- managed by DrgnLord
Bark scorpion man (Total: 561 (280 + 281) points)
[Equipment]
None
[Skills]
Professional Dodging - 225
Skilled Fighter - 30
Skilled Striking - 40 (+16)
Total 295 (266 Points left)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Hokiak is feeling confident after his last fight, forgoing any additional training and armor. (He got an upgrade in striking because of disarming Kieran with a single strike.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 19, 2015, 08:57:27 pm
Okay, I know this has been asked several times in as many different ways, but for this next round am I building Dorian with 270+6 or 540+6?

Great fights today. Big upsets, longer fights, and an unexpected magma bath, sooo good.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 09:03:09 pm
Alright, so I'll take charge of the loser's bracket, unless Unraveller wants to do something different.

Here's the loser's bracket.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I'm thinking no upgrading for the loser's. It'll make things quicker and won't distract from the main tourney. If anyone wants me to change something, speak up. I'll start recording tomorrow. :)

Sorry to break it to you, I wasn't planning a bracket. Just a all out royale.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 19, 2015, 09:07:31 pm
Okay, I know this has been asked several times in as many different ways, but for this next round am I building Dorian with 270+6 or 540+6?

Great fights today. Big upsets, longer fights, and an unexpected magma bath, sooo good.

I think its, 276 to upgrade on what you have already (+ selling equipment back for half cost if you chose to do so)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 19, 2015, 09:11:10 pm
And here is Sath after the first round against - Lumash Zatidar - :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

That is goddamn perfect.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 19, 2015, 09:28:58 pm
Okay, I know this has been asked several times in as many different ways, but for this next round am I building Dorian with 270+6 or 540+6?

Great fights today. Big upsets, longer fights, and an unexpected magma bath, sooo good.

I think its, 276 to upgrade on what you have already (+ selling equipment back for half cost if you chose to do so)

Right, that's what I thought. I believe some of the other gladiators might be under the impression that it's the other way though.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 19, 2015, 09:34:04 pm
Anyone else notice that when Sath cut off Lumash's head, it sailed up into the lava?

Does that sort of count as a lava kill? The head is still aware for a couple seconds after decapitation, yeah?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 09:36:11 pm
My favorite part was when it said that Lumash was knocked unconscious after being decapitated.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 19, 2015, 09:41:08 pm
My favorite part was when it said that Lumash was knocked unconscious after being decapitated.

Well, if anything's going to knock a gremlin out cold, decapitation will definitely do the trick!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 19, 2015, 10:02:30 pm
Sorry to break it to you, I wasn't planning a bracket. Just a all out royale.

That's fine. I might expand klassik a bit to fit all the gladiators. Thank's for letting me know. :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 19, 2015, 10:21:28 pm
Do whatever you need buddy.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 19, 2015, 11:09:09 pm
TORTOX THE SLY- LEVEL UP

I have 290 pts to spend.

Sell Bronze Helm: +12
Buy Adamantine Helm: -144
Skilled to Expert Dodger: -130
Talented to Adept Kicker: -28
----------------------------------------------
Balance: 0
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 19, 2015, 11:45:43 pm
TORTOX THE SLY- LEVEL UP

I have 290 pts to spend.

Sell Bronze Helm: +12
Buy Adamantine Helm: -144
Skilled to Expert Dodger: -130
Talented to Adept Kicker: -28
----------------------------------------------
Balance: 0

And thus, the most dope hat in all the lands was made
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 20, 2015, 01:30:35 am
Did he even swing his hammer? What the hell. Oh, he did, missed looks like, ah well, not enough points to play with.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 20, 2015, 01:32:11 am
And here is Sath after the first round against - Lumash Zatidar - :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Damn man, that's awesome!

Oh and as to Thud, if I understand the way the points work correctly, I'm just going to dump my 240 into Sword bumping it up to Accomplished. Which leaves me with 8 points remaining.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 20, 2015, 02:16:54 am
And here is Sath after the first round against - Lumash Zatidar - :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Damn man, that's awesome!

Oh and as to Thud, if I understand the way the points work correctly, I'm just going to dump my 240 into Sword bumping it up to Accomplished. Which leaves me with 8 points remaining.

That is terrifying. The art is very good but the fact that you raised your swordsman skill that high...

-Thurr the Animal- managed by MrLupenTails
Hyena Man
240 points
[Equipment]
Steel scourge: -84 (Sold Iron Scourge)
Oak buckler: -22.5
Iron Breastplate: -40
Leather leggings: +20 swag, -7 points.
Copper Helm: -15
Copper gauntlets: (Sold for 5 points)
[Skills]
Talented dodger: -50 + -45 = -95
Competent shield-user: -24
Talented lasher: -50 + -55 = -105
Competent armor-user: -2 + -10= -12
Novice biter: -4
Novice swimmer: -2
478.75/480 points used. 17.25 points remaining. (I made an edit, the match hasn't started yet so I think it will be ok, otherwise I can undo it.)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 20, 2015, 03:30:46 am
And here is Sath after the first round against - Lumash Zatidar - :D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Damn man, that's awesome!

Oh and as to Thud, if I understand the way the points work correctly, I'm just going to dump my 240 into Sword bumping it up to Accomplished. Which leaves me with 8 points remaining.

That is terrifying. The art is very good but the fact that you raised your swordsman skill that high...

-Thurr the Animal- managed by MrLupenTails
Hyena Man
240 points
[Equipment]
Steel scourge: -84 (Sold Iron Scourge)
Oak buckler: -22.5
Iron Breastplate: -40
Leather leggings: +20 swag, -7 points.
Copper cap: -12.5
Copper gauntlets: -10
[Skills]
Talented dodger: -50 + -45 = -95
Competent shield-user: -24
Talented lasher: -50 + -55 = -105
Competent armor-user: -2 + -10= -12
Novice biter: -4
Novice swimmer: -2
474/480 points used. 6 points remaining.

I figure it's sort of imperative with Thud. He's a glass cannon, he can be dangerous but with no armor he really can't afford to get hit, well at all honestly so I figure it's best just to go with the chance for that one big shot.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 20, 2015, 05:03:20 am
Okay, so I have 360 points, plus another 8 from having 4 left over, for a total of 368.

I'll spend 300 points to train Cerol up to Grand Master Knife User, and another 56 points train him to Adept Dodger. His updated stats:

-Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer- managed by DS
Crundle Male: 360 + 364 points
[Equipment]
- Steel Large Dagger, 64 points
[Skills]
- Grand Master Knife User, 525 points
- Adept Dodger (tiny), 123 points
Left over: 12 points
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 20, 2015, 05:34:33 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-Varick the Undying-
Kobold Round 1: 290 pts | Round 2: 328 pts
[Equipment]
Platinum whip - 104 points
[Skills]
Master Dodger - 345 points
Talented Lasher - 105 points
Novice Swimmer - 2 points
4 Points left
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 20, 2015, 06:28:20 am
Looking forward to the battle royale! I imagine it's just all the losers as they are in a hunger-games style setup arena? It'll be one heck of a bloodbath.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 20, 2015, 07:44:17 am
Okay, so I have 360 points, plus another 8 from having 4 left over, for a total of 368.

I'll spend 300 points to train Cerol up to Grand Master Knife User, and another 56 points train him to Adept Dodger. His updated stats:

-Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer- managed by DS
Crundle Male: 360 + 364 points
[Equipment]
- Steel Large Dagger, 64 points
[Skills]
- Grand Master Knife User, 525 points
- Adept Dodger (tiny), 123 points
Left over: 12 points
See, this is what I was afraid of.  The little buggers with their obscene points are going to wipe the floor with everyone :o
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 20, 2015, 08:57:52 am
Tiny people have late game strength while large creatures have early game strength, unless whips are involved.

That seems like a decent trade-off to me. Plenty of us tiny creatures died to bigger creatures in the first elimination.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tavern on June 20, 2015, 09:57:20 am
Spoiler: Shotgun Gai's LVL UP!! (click to show/hide)

New stats:

[Equipment]
Iron helm
Iron 2-handed sword
Oak gauntlets (one for badass points)

[Skills]
Adept Fighter
Expert Swordsman
Talented Dodger
Proficient Observer

Always bring a helmet to a whip fight ;)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 20, 2015, 11:16:06 am
Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss level up:

points left from last round : 2

250 + 2*2 = 254

modifications:

dodging:
competent -> adept ( -110 pts)

lashing:
competent -> adept (-110 pts)

points left : 34
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 20, 2015, 11:30:27 am
TORTOX THE SLY- LEVEL UP

I have 290 pts to spend.

Sell Bronze Helm: +12
Buy Adamantine Helm: -144
Skilled to Expert Dodger: -130
Talented to Adept Kicker: -28
----------------------------------------------
Balance: 0

And thus, the most dope hat in all the lands was made

The better the hat, the less likely it is Klackon will slam Tortox's skull through his brain with a single lash.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 20, 2015, 11:36:23 am
Tiny people have late game strength while large creatures have early game strength, unless whips are involved.

That seems like a decent trade-off to me. Plenty of us tiny creatures died to bigger creatures in the first elimination.

Some of us tiny creatures died to other tiny creatures too, even.  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 20, 2015, 11:40:49 am
TORTOX THE SLY- LEVEL UP

I have 290 pts to spend.

Sell Bronze Helm: +12
Buy Adamantine Helm: -144
Skilled to Expert Dodger: -130
Talented to Adept Kicker: -28
----------------------------------------------
Balance: 0

And thus, the most dope hat in all the lands was made

The better the hat, the less likely it is Klackon will slam Tortox's skull through his brain with a single lash.


Here is what I imagine is a masterfully crafted, gem-incrusted adamantine helmet.
http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/bhunplpby80wnsiovtcj.jpg (http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/bhunplpby80wnsiovtcj.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 20, 2015, 12:17:17 pm
TORTOX THE SLY- LEVEL UP

I have 290 pts to spend.

Sell Bronze Helm: +12
Buy Adamantine Helm: -144
Skilled to Expert Dodger: -130
Talented to Adept Kicker: -28
----------------------------------------------
Balance: 0

And thus, the most dope hat in all the lands was made

The better the hat, the less likely it is Klackon will slam Tortox's skull through his brain with a single lash.


Here is what I imagine is a masterfully crafted, gem-incrusted adamantine helmet.
http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/bhunplpby80wnsiovtcj.jpg (http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/bhunplpby80wnsiovtcj.jpg)

It'd be interesting trying to fit a platypus bill in that.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 20, 2015, 03:06:46 pm
It didn't work well against Thurr although I don't think you will see him after this fight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 20, 2015, 03:09:00 pm
-"Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers- managed by PresidentFord
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

turns into

Jumping Spider Man +270 + 6

[Equipment] - 0 (already purchased)
Oak Buckler - 0
Oak Buckler - 0
Oak Buckler - 0
Copper Whip - 0
Copper Whip - 0
Copper Whip - 0
[Skills]
(Competent +18 - Expert Fighting -108) net -90
(Competent +30 - Talented Dodger -105) net -75
(Competent +24 - Talented Shield -84) net -60
(Competent +30 - Proficient Lasher -75) net - 45

Total: 270/276

Please check all the math and stuff.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Baffler on June 20, 2015, 03:26:29 pm
Spoiler: Rovod the Red: Level I (click to show/hide)

Rovod level up! I have 246(?) points to spend.

Sell iron spear: +20
Sell copper mail shirt: +15
Sell copper cap: +6.25
Steel Spear: -80
Bronze Cap: -20
Bronze mail shirt: -48
Bronze mail leggings: -28

Competent -> Proficient Speardwarf: -45
Competent -> Skilled Fighter: -12
Competent -> Skilled Armor User: -8
Competent -> Proficient Dodger: -45

Cost: -244.75
Extra Points: 1.25

That leaves us with:


It might bite me to invest so heavily in armor user so early on, but if Rovod survives long enough to get more heavy equipment he'll be a terrifying opponent because of it, and it'll allow him to keep the edge the armor gives him in longer fights in the short term.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 20, 2015, 03:48:55 pm
Alrighty, I'll be updating the gladiators soon and getting ready to start some action. Though I would like it for whoever plans on hosting the loser's battle royale to do it before I begin.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 20, 2015, 03:59:39 pm
Alrighty, I'll be updating the gladiators soon and getting ready to start some action. Though I would like it for whoever plans on hosting the loser's battle royale to do it before I begin.

I got everything set up this morning. I'll update King Tuticane and then record it real quick. :)

EDIT: updated King Tut.

Spoiler: King Tuticane Lv. 1 (click to show/hide)

250 points to spend.

[Equip]
iron helm     -24p
iron mail shirt     -48p
copper leggings     -17.5p
[Skills]
Master Armor user     -156p

leftover: 4.5
Spoiler: King Tuticane Lv. 2 (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 20, 2015, 04:12:47 pm
Alrighty, so I'm thinking next tourney will see tiny creatures have their points scaled back a bit. And some buff to huge creatures as well, perhaps some scaling points as the tourney goes on so they do not fall behind so quickly?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 20, 2015, 06:24:02 pm
Alrighty, so I'm thinking next tourney will see tiny creatures have their points scaled back a bit. And some buff to huge creatures as well, perhaps some scaling points as the tourney goes on so they do not fall behind so quickly?

I reckon that would be good! And if they already get a huge point bonus/penalty for being small/huge, does the dodge discount/markup really make sense? I might be overthinking that, but i dunno.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Eritzap on June 20, 2015, 06:29:49 pm
\o/ LEVEL UP \o/
Cadedi Icoricera
Female Elf

Adept Pikeman (140)
Talented Fighter (63)
Skilled Dodger (50)

Steel Pike (88)

Copper Helm (15)
Steel Breastplate (80)
Copper Greaves (22.5)
Copper High Boots (12.5)

Points left: 9 /480
Spoiler: Updates (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 20, 2015, 06:37:35 pm
Alrighty, so I'm thinking next tourney will see tiny creatures have their points scaled back a bit. And some buff to huge creatures as well, perhaps some scaling points as the tourney goes on so they do not fall behind so quickly?

I reckon that would be good! And if they already get a huge point bonus/penalty for being small/huge, does the dodge discount/markup really make sense? I might be overthinking that, but i dunno.

Well I wonder if maybe they could get away with doubling points more early on and relying on raw power before going into skilled combat/armor.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 20, 2015, 07:07:26 pm
Scaling actually seems to defeat the risk of lower points bur more raw power.

I would adjust the points some, but idk about scaling over time. Maybe give tinies a bit less, huge a bit more; I'd agree with removing the dodge discount, except tinies won't fair exactly well on equal grounds as armor isn't as useful? It'd be worthwhile to see how somewhat rebalanced point amounts would work first.

I mean, we get hit, we go squish. Can't even use shields! :P

I do agree that the point difference is noticeable pretty quickly in dodge specialist tinies. Then again,  most players aren't building bigger chars similarly... it could be a deeper issue that hitting hard and fast is just deadly in inexperienced fighters in the game. Last game for example,  Varick got destroyed by another kobold with a more focused skillset. Specialists are very effective.

Anyway! Less tiny points, more huge points, sounds like a decent idea to me.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 20, 2015, 07:27:39 pm
Scaling actually seems to defeat the risk of lower points bur more raw power.

I would adjust the points some, but idk about scaling over time. Maybe give tinies a bit less, huge a bit more; I'd agree with removing the dodge discount, except tinies won't fair exactly well on equal grounds as armor isn't as useful? It'd be worthwhile to see how somewhat rebalanced point amounts would work first.

I mean, we get hit, we go squish. Can't even use shields! :P

I do agree that the point difference is noticeable pretty quickly in dodge specialist tinies. Then again,  most players aren't building bigger chars similarly... it could be a deeper issue that hitting hard and fast is just deadly in inexperienced fighters in the game. Last game for example,  Varick got destroyed by another kobold with a more focused skillset. Specialists are very effective.

Anyway! Less tiny points, more huge points, sounds like a decent idea to me.

Ah yep, agreed. I didnt see the part about scaling when i read the post first time round, it seems like it might mess with stuff. Definitely more points for biggy mcSmashjaw, and a few less for Tiny macLegstabber
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 20, 2015, 08:02:38 pm
(sorry for the delay, my crappy narration took longer than I thought. :-[)

Howdy folks! and welcome to the first ever loser's battle royale! Yes, we'll be watching the worst of the worst. Each one of these 16 failures is here to die for your enjoyment. Lets bring 'em out!

Spoiler: gladiators (click to show/hide)

(going clockwise starting at the south end) Lucan Stone the Unbreakable, Obuesno Osnukngog the Troll, Dengu the Imaler, Ilpi AmberMead, Lumash Zatidar, THE BOAT MURDERER, Ajax the Manifold, Kieran the Killpocalypse, Setro of the Wicked Moon, Lady Varano the Proud, Uric of Battlefailed, Pok Pok, Phalanx, Snamozaspna, Strokodogaynkin, and last but not least, Silver Bull

Enough talking, Let's begin shall we.


There are simply too many combat logs to take screenshots of, and the log exceeds the character limit, so you'll have to view it here (http://drive.google.com/file/d/0BykHuRrjfXrRZXExZ2I3aUR6aGs/view?usp=sharing).

Right off the bat Strokodogaynkin launches an arrow right into Snamozaspna's chest. Good thing he had that copper breastplate or it would have likely pierced his heart. Well, bad for Strokodogaynkin, as Snamozaspna then promptly smashed his arm into pulp.

Meanwhile, Dengu confronts Obuesno, the monster sized troll. Has he bitten off more than he can chew? Apparently not! Dengu punches the troll right in the face with so much force the giant is knocked out!

Ajax and The Boat Murderer are dueling off in the northwest. Boat Murderer seems to be getting the upper hand when Kieran jumps in and chops Boat Murderer's foot off. The Boat Murderer continues to fight with Ajax while ignoring Kieran. He's surrounded, what else can he do?
 
With both Ajax and The Boat Murderer fallen, Kieran takes the opportunity for an easy kill. He slashes TBM across the belly, spilling his guts. But TBM just won't die! TBM continues to puts up a strong defence but is eventually decapitated by Kieran's steel long sword.

In the southeast, the bull and the moose face off. Neither of these gladiators carry weapons, both relying on their size and strength to deal damage. Both gladiators continue to try to gore the other with their horns but neither can deliver any serious blows.

Lumash and Dengu fight, but eventually  the little gremlin proves too much for Dengu and his foot is cut off. With Dengu fallen over, Lumash takes little time to cut off Dengu's head with his unbelievably sharp adamantine dagger.

Kieran finds another foe to fight, it's Setro of the wicked moon. It seems to be anyones game until Setro gets a bite on Kieran and injects his potent venom. Setro then begins to messily devour his meal.

Back in the southeast, Snamozaspna finally makes a fatal blow by ripping out Silver Bull's throat with his teeth! His victory is short lived however. Lumash, no longer preoccupied with Dengu, stabs Snamozaspna's antler, which is apparently extremely painful because he immediately passes out. It's no time before the gremlin finishes him off.

This whole time, Lady Varano, Uric, Pok Pok, and Phalanx have been trading blows but none of them serious. But finally things are happening. Pok Pok cuts of Varano's foot while Uric smashes Phalanx's leg. Both gladiators quickly finish their fallen opponents off. They then turn to fight each other.

Setro's meal is rudely interrupted by Lumash, who quickly slices Setro's head clean off. Those adamantine daggers are the real deal. Lumash then shanks Pok Pok and Uric without much opposition and is the last gladiator standing!

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 20, 2015, 08:21:02 pm
-snip-

Well, that was gory. Beautifully so.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 20, 2015, 08:39:13 pm
I'd even venture to say that Lumash murdalized most of them. Of course, in usually gremlin fashion, like a sneaky bastard. In up front honorable combat he couldn't beat someone like Sath.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 20, 2015, 08:45:07 pm
Well done Lumash :D

I hope I dont have to test my luck against you a second time...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 20, 2015, 09:33:58 pm
That battle royale was wonderfully gory. Good show, wot?

Kierran, you seriously don't die easy. I sort of envy you for that, hahaha!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 20, 2015, 09:47:28 pm
My favorite highlight was when I cut Ajax's leg off...

and immediately got my own taken off by Kieran.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

DAMN YOU KIERAN!

As a sidenote, I lasted longer than I expected to. If Setro hadn't got the bite in, I would have lasted probably an extra few turns before I bled out anyways. Still, GG.

It's nice how my name is in ALL CAPS, it makes it easier to find my name!

EDIT:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I did enjoy how I was defending fairly well even with me guts on the ground. A true dwarf's death, much more respectable than my battle with Varick.

Also, I think I got the kill on Ajax... he bled out, but I'll say it was out of the hole where his leg used to be :P

(Sorry for the long post, hehe)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: NAV on June 20, 2015, 10:25:24 pm
Oh awesome, my Strokodog was the first one killed. Archers really don't do well in these tournaments, do they?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 20, 2015, 11:19:30 pm
Naw, I think One Bow Juan from before did well? Also, archers might want misc objects user for meleeing with their bows. Crossbow users might be a superior choice.

And if you'd like to know, your kobold actually won the royale while I was trying it, though my gif stuff kept crashing.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 20, 2015, 11:39:14 pm
Holy hell, that was AMAZING! I dare say Lumash has redeemed himself well, and well indeed!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 20, 2015, 11:46:21 pm
Naw, I think One Bow Juan from before did well? Also, archers might want misc objects user for meleeing with their bows. Crossbow users might be a superior choice.

And if you'd like to know, your kobold actually won the royale while I was trying it, though my gif stuff kept crashing.

On the note of bow meleeing, apparently that falls under the umbrella of Swordsdwarfship.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 20, 2015, 11:51:55 pm
Yeah, I think crossbows in melee are treated as hammers and bows as swords. Last tournament, there was a guy that shot another guy in the tooth.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 20, 2015, 11:53:39 pm
Bows as swords.

This is correct, not misc objects.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Max™ on June 20, 2015, 11:59:14 pm
Well, I already had an idea of what I wanted to do if not for the troll joke.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 21, 2015, 06:26:35 am
i've been messing around a little in the arena, and it seems like some races come packaged with stats, i.e minotaurs are default pretty rad with everything. Is that addressed in the official setup, or has it been overlooked?

I'm a clever lad sometimes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 21, 2015, 09:26:39 am
If it was overlooked minotaurs would be raining supreme right now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 21, 2015, 10:05:35 am
If it was overlooked minotaurs would be raining supreme right now.

Sorry for doubting you, oh arena master :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 21, 2015, 10:14:38 am
And in a moment of self-congratulatory backpattery, i drew Lumash post-brawl. Don't mind the bandages, he's an excellent doctor. http://i.imgur.com/rFSVFd6.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/rFSVFd6.jpg)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 21, 2015, 10:19:20 am
This I like, though I always liked thinking gremlins as having a large rounded body. My gremlins look ridiculous of course.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 21, 2015, 12:29:28 pm
Gremlins will forever look like this to me.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 21, 2015, 12:33:06 pm
And in a moment of self-congratulatory backpattery, i drew Lumash post-brawl. Don't mind the bandages, he's an excellent doctor. http://i.imgur.com/rFSVFd6.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/rFSVFd6.jpg)

So thats what Lumash looks like :D

Now I can draw his severed head on Sath's sword  :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 21, 2015, 03:54:15 pm
I believe I require Monty the Dark Gnome and Flakshed the Main-Man's upgrades. So FearsomeClarinet and DesolateDomain. I'd appreciate it if you were to post those soon.

Hope no one minds that I'll be waiting a day. I'd rather not purchase equipment for them, and I'll be very busy today anyhow.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 21, 2015, 05:26:16 pm
I believe I require Monty the Dark Gnome, Thud the Mad, and Flakshed the Main-Man's upgrades. So FearsomeClarinet, Arkansan, and DesolateDomain. I'd appreciate it if you were to post those soon.

Hope no one minds that I'll be waiting a day. I'd rather not purchase equipment for them, and I'll be very busy today anyhow.

You don't have to make their purchases for them. If I were you, I'd just default to a "no post, no upgrades" policy.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 21, 2015, 05:50:38 pm
I believe I require Monty the Dark Gnome, Thud the Mad, and Flakshed the Main-Man's upgrades. So FearsomeClarinet, Arkansan, and DesolateDomain. I'd appreciate it if you were to post those soon.

Hope no one minds that I'll be waiting a day. I'd rather not purchase equipment for them, and I'll be very busy today anyhow.

Thud the Mad upgraded his sword skill to Accomplished. I believe it is on page 24 or 23. To my dismay of course.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 21, 2015, 05:54:43 pm
Page 22
Damn man, that's awesome!

Oh and as to Thud, if I understand the way the points work correctly, I'm just going to dump my 240 into Sword bumping it up to Accomplished. Which leaves me with 8 points remaining.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 21, 2015, 05:58:44 pm
Ah! Forgive me, I tend to easily overlook some things.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 21, 2015, 08:28:48 pm
I wonder, d'you think people would do a tag-team tournament? So, pairs of gladiators againts one another. It could be interesting, and a decent way for archers to get better action.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 21, 2015, 09:01:12 pm
I was just thinking about that, you mind reader you. But I wouldn't want to host it.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 21, 2015, 09:32:36 pm
I really like the concept of alt-tournament with the eliminated gladiators, like the grand melee we did. It could keep things interesting during intermissions, and give more time to the arena master and the active gladiators to post results and level-up info. It also makes the fun last longer, which I don't mind ! Different style of games could be organized, like melee, 2v2, team vs huge monster, etc.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 21, 2015, 10:48:56 pm
I was just thinking about that, you mind reader you. But I wouldn't want to host it.

I'd consider it, but i have a weird timezone and little knowledge of the finer arts of the object arena.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 22, 2015, 08:28:56 am
Quick question because of... Reasons.

Would it be feasible to have a wild boar man, with nether-cap gloves, and this is the important bit, a bituminous coal maul that had been set alight. And if so, how much would that perchance set one back?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 22, 2015, 08:33:05 am
I believe I require Monty the Dark Gnome and Flakshed the Main-Man's upgrades. So FearsomeClarinet and DesolateDomain. I'd appreciate it if you were to post those soon.

Hope no one minds that I'll be waiting a day. I'd rather not purchase equipment for them, and I'll be very busy today anyhow.

Also, bump. C'mon people, don't hold up the murder train!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 09:03:08 am
As far as I know.  Absolutely not, the only thing that cannot be done id the flaming maul, which I also think wouldn't make any difference in weapon effectiveness.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 22, 2015, 09:26:20 am
As far as I know.  Absolutely not, the only thing that cannot be done id the flaming maul, which I also think wouldn't make any difference in weapon effectiveness.

Ahh, pipe dreams. Well, i've got plenty of gladiators that aren't quite as absurd, stowed away for a rainy day.

Seriously though, grillpig.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 22, 2015, 11:09:57 am
What about setting up gladiators against actual monsters? Like, do you think all the losers could kill a dragon?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 22, 2015, 11:50:46 am
That battle royale was wonderfully gory. Good show, wot?

Kierran, you seriously don't die easy. I sort of envy you for that, hahaha!

It'll take more than a few shakes of the head to put Kieran down!

It's a shame he's always been on the receiving end of venom...I feel like venomous creaturemen need a bit of a nerf. One bite and they're pretty much home free.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 22, 2015, 12:03:00 pm
My favorite highlight was when I cut Ajax's leg off...

and immediately got my own taken off by Kieran.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

DAMN YOU KIERAN!

As a sidenote, I lasted longer than I expected to. If Setro hadn't got the bite in, I would have lasted probably an extra few turns before I bled out anyways. Still, GG.

It's nice how my name is in ALL CAPS, it makes it easier to find my name!

EDIT:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I did enjoy how I was defending fairly well even with me guts on the ground. A true dwarf's death, much more respectable than my battle with Varick.

Also, I think I got the kill on Ajax... he bled out, but I'll say it was out of the hole where his leg used to be :P

(Sorry for the long post, hehe)

It was a good fight! The dwarves truly are a hardy race.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 22, 2015, 12:20:57 pm
It'll take more than a few shakes of the head to put Kieran down!

It's a shame he's always been on the receiving end of venom...I feel like venomous creaturemen need a bit of a nerf. One bite and they're pretty much home free.

Depends because different venoms have much different effects. Armor also usually works well to deflect the attack.
Bark Scorpion venom for instance only causes strong pain, which sometimes doesn't seem to do much at all. Ran a simulation against a human male where he got stung three times and then just swung his sword decapitating his enemy. Many times the venom was only ever injected after the opponent had been immobilized.
Black mamba would be much worse causing Dizziness, Drowsiness, Strong pain, Fever, Unconsciousness, and Complete paralysis.
Platypus causes pain and swelling with possible necrosis.
Many times one shot by anyone can end up deciding the match whether it is poison or sword.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 22, 2015, 01:39:07 pm
I really like the concept of alt-tournament with the eliminated gladiators, like the grand melee we did. It could keep things interesting during intermissions, and give more time to the arena master and the active gladiators to post results and level-up info. It also makes the fun last longer, which I don't mind ! Different style of games could be organized, like melee, 2v2, team vs huge monster, etc.

Team vs. Huge Monster sounds awesome! Two or three gladiators battling a hydra, it'd be great, like DF monster hunter.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 22, 2015, 03:53:19 pm
That battle royale was wonderfully gory. Good show, wot?

Kierran, you seriously don't die easy. I sort of envy you for that, hahaha!

It'll take more than a few shakes of the head to put Kieran down!

It's a shame he's always been on the receiving end of venom...I feel like venomous creaturemen need a bit of a nerf. One bite and they're pretty much home free.

Perhaps. On the other hand, the venom attack isn't likely to be used unless your character is completely unarmed.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 22, 2015, 04:00:30 pm
That battle royale was wonderfully gory. Good show, wot?

Kierran, you seriously don't die easy. I sort of envy you for that, hahaha!

It'll take more than a few shakes of the head to put Kieran down!

It's a shame he's always been on the receiving end of venom...I feel like venomous creaturemen need a bit of a nerf. One bite and they're pretty much home free.

Perhaps. On the other hand, the venom attack isn't likely to be used unless your character is completely unarmed.

But then it's as if the character is already starting with a weapon, and the rest can be dumped into skills. A human with less points pretty much needs to purchase a blade as well as skills
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Desolate Domain on June 22, 2015, 04:24:52 pm
-Flakshed the Main-Man- managed by Desolate Domain
Eagle Man 280 + 280 points
[Equipment]
Platinum Morningstar - 104 pts
Bronze Buckler - 60 pts
Eagle Leather Gauntlets - 4 pts
Eagle Leather Low Boots - 4 pts
Steel Cap - 40 pts
Copper Mail Shirt - 30 pts
Steel Leggins - 56 pts
[Skills]
Proficient Macebird - 36 pts
Skilled Fighter - 30 pts
Proficient Shield User - 12 pts
Skilled Dodger - 30
Proficient Armour User - 30 pts
Competent Observer - 18 pts
4 Left

Alright, sorry to keep you waiting for so long.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 04:34:18 pm
That works then, I suppose I'll update Monty myself and get on with this.

-Monty the Dark Gnome- managed by FearsomeClarinet
360 + 360 Points
[Equipment]
112 Points: Steel Scourge
37.5 Points: Copper Buckler
15 Points: Copper Helm
24 Points: Copper Mail Shirt
7 Points: Leather Leggings
4 Points: Leather Gauntlets
5 Points: Leather High Boots
[Skills]
30 + 195 Points: Professional Lasher
89 + 107 Points: Professional Dodger
12 Points: Competent Armor User
24 + 16 Points: Skilled Shield User
12 Points Remaining
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 22, 2015, 05:57:21 pm
But then it's as if the character is already starting with a weapon, and the rest can be dumped into skills. A human with less points pretty much needs to purchase a blade as well as skills
But it doesn't scale and is rendered less effective if your opponent builds armor. Plus it uses unarmed skills so if you wanted to wield weapons you'd be splitting your points. Something the human doesn't need to do for his steel/copper weapon which works far better against armored foes. Compared to choosing to use whips it may even be less of a consideration. And that human with a sword has a good chance at one shot-ing you if he hits.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 22, 2015, 05:58:11 pm
Is that everyone in the Quarter Finals updated now?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 22, 2015, 06:34:28 pm
Let the bloodshed commence!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 06:51:59 pm
Elimination II Match I
Thud the Mad VS. Thurr the Animal

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Ahh, what a way to kick off the second elimination round better than to have a great match in klassic territory?

Our dear insane gladiator, Thud the Mad, truly lives up to his name with his reckless manner and glorious bloodshed, before the match we got an interview with the madman, who had this to say, "Mice, mice are nice. But hyena is nice dead." Apparently he is not only mad, but also dumb. However, his blade will surely meet flesh tonight.

His rival, another one of our more unstable gladiators, Thurr, a hyena man from a den of villainy and deceit. In fact, I have a striking feeling that this crazy bugger sold Snamozaspna into slavery with the goblins to begin with. An evil slave driver, can Thud hope to thud this hyena?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Aha, yes! I love a vicious decapitation, and here our good victor delights in the thud of a hyena head smashing upon the arena wall!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 22, 2015, 06:57:50 pm
There is something really classy about ending a fight with decapitation.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 07:02:01 pm
Elimination II Match II
Rovod the Red VS. Cadedi Icoricera

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

A classic match up here, elf versus dwarf upon a grand bridge over an endless pit!

Rovod the Red hails from the dwarven mountainhomes of something or other. It is unknown if the dwarf's name comes from his glorious red beard or his vicious speardwarfship as he bleeds his target dry. In any case, he is out for elf blood tonight, can he defeat;

Miss Icoricera, the lovely elven mistress who also happens to have been a veteran during many elvish conquests. With her mighty pike of iron in hand, clad in copper, there's no way a puny little dwarf can overtake her. Let's see how this classic match plays out!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Cadedi was simply too nimble, too graceful for her blunt opponent to land a telling blow upon her. Even in such heavy armor she remains quick, this'll be one tough elf to beat!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 22, 2015, 07:02:45 pm

this crazy bugger sold Snamozaspna into slavery with the goblins to begin with. An evil slave driver, can Thud hope to thud this hyena?


Hmmm i'm beginning to see some interesting lore :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 07:10:20 pm
Elimination II Match III
Flakshed the Main-Man VS. King Tuticane

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Peaceful meadows, such a perfect scenery to disrupt and leave viscera all over the place.

If there would be three words to describe Flakshed they'd be boastful, brash, and obnoxious. Or maybe beligerant if we wanted to stick with the three b's. This guy has slain countless other eagle men in attempts to be the only one left in the world, so that he of course can be the main-man. Moral quandaries aside, that platinum morningstar is amazing for bashing brains.

His opponent is quite the opposite, such a regal bearing. King Tuticane may be one of the most noble under critters I've ever met. 'Cept for the good lady Klackon of course. Any who, this kingly serpent has fangs and venom aplenty, this should be easy for the totally unfair snake man's advantage.


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ohh, as expected. Our eagle man lost hope rather quick as the paralytic poison crept through his system. Leaving the king with but only a bruised heart.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 07:11:18 pm
I've been rather busy, so these might be the only three I'll get out tonight.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 22, 2015, 07:14:48 pm
Sounds good Unraveller
makes the next fight, which is mine, more intense anyway! :D
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 22, 2015, 07:15:29 pm
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 22, 2015, 07:17:33 pm
Elimination II Match II
Rovod the Red VS. Cadedi Icoricera

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

A classic match up here, elf versus dwarf upon a grand bridge over an endless pit!

Rovod the Red hails from the dwarven mountainhomes of something or other. It is unknown if the dwarf's name comes from his glorious red beard or his vicious speardwarfship as he bleeds his target dry. In any case, he is out for elf blood tonight, can he defeat;

Miss Icoricera, the lovely elven mistress who also happens to have been a veteran during many elvish conquests. With her mighty pike of iron in hand, clad in copper, there's no way a puny little dwarf can overtake her. Let's see how this classic match plays out!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Cadedi was simply too nimble, too graceful for her blunt opponent to land a telling blow upon her. Even in such heavy armor she remains quick, this'll be one tough elf to beat!


Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 22, 2015, 07:27:02 pm
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?

Honestly, now I'm not sure.

Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?

Ooopsie, forgive me. I seem to over look a ton.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 22, 2015, 07:36:31 pm
Sounds good Unraveller
makes the next fight, which is mine, more intense anyway! :D
The suspense!

Also learned today that: "... though stings from a bark scorpion man will also rely on the kicking skill"
So that was an oversight maybe
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 22, 2015, 07:57:09 pm
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?

Honestly, now I'm not sure.

Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?

Ooopsie, forgive me. I seem to over look a ton.

Oh well, he survived either way so that's all that matters. I checked my post history, I dumped 240 points into his sword skill bringing it to Accomplished and had 8 points left over. However I didn't repost his updated stats like everyone else so maybe that's what happened.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 22, 2015, 10:38:26 pm
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?

Honestly, now I'm not sure.

Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?

Ooopsie, forgive me. I seem to over look a ton.

Oh well, he survived either way so that's all that matters. I checked my post history, I dumped 240 points into his sword skill bringing it to Accomplished and had 8 points left over. However I didn't repost his updated stats like everyone else so maybe that's what happened.
I think he upgraded it. Eitherway, that was a good fight. I was hoping Thurr would disarm Thud with a hit, but Thud is a true glass cannon, hitting very hard when he hits.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 22, 2015, 10:45:21 pm
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?

Honestly, now I'm not sure.

Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?

Ooopsie, forgive me. I seem to over look a ton.

Oh well, he survived either way so that's all that matters. I checked my post history, I dumped 240 points into his sword skill bringing it to Accomplished and had 8 points left over. However I didn't repost his updated stats like everyone else so maybe that's what happened.
I think he upgraded it. Eitherway, that was a good fight. I was hoping Thurr would disarm Thud with a hit, but Thud is a true glass cannon, hitting very hard when he hits.

Definitely a good fight. Yeah I figure when Thud finally does get hit he's going to shatter rather quickly. So long as he makes a spectacle of it that's fine by me  :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 23, 2015, 12:46:33 am
Did I forget to upgrade Thud for this fight or did his gladiator listing just not get changed?

Honestly, now I'm not sure.

Not that it made much difference, but didn't Cadedi upgrade to a steel pike?

Ooopsie, forgive me. I seem to over look a ton.

Oh well, he survived either way so that's all that matters. I checked my post history, I dumped 240 points into his sword skill bringing it to Accomplished and had 8 points left over. However I didn't repost his updated stats like everyone else so maybe that's what happened.
I think he upgraded it. Eitherway, that was a good fight. I was hoping Thurr would disarm Thud with a hit, but Thud is a true glass cannon, hitting very hard when he hits.

Definitely a good fight. Yeah I figure when Thud finally does get hit he's going to shatter rather quickly. So long as he makes a spectacle of it that's fine by me  :)

I believe weapon skill allows you to block more easily with your weapon. That was definitely a wise choice to make.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 23, 2015, 03:37:33 am

I've been wounded. This is annoying.

Hah, classic.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 10:12:49 am
Ah, time for Sath to step up to the plate! After what he did to my beloved bastard, you'd best pull through this. Prove to me your worth!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: drgnlord on June 23, 2015, 01:10:07 pm
My terrible drawing.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 23, 2015, 04:55:07 pm
Would someone like to be a guest announcer for the rest of this elimination round. I've been quite busy lately and haven't been able to spend enough time doing these. I have recorded all the matches, but would someone like to annotate them in my format?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 23, 2015, 05:44:34 pm
I would but honestly I'm not very creative and it would probably be very boring haha.

EDIT: So if noone is going to pick it up, no matches for today?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 06:38:22 pm
Would someone like to be a guest announcer for the rest of this elimination round. I've been quite busy lately and haven't been able to spend enough time doing these. I have recorded all the matches, but would someone like to annotate them in my format?

Rrrhhhhh... Look, i'll plunder the formatting from your previous posts and write up the blurbs and recaps if you want! I feel i might be capable enough in the linguistics department, and if you already have the logs etcetera happily stashed away i'm entirely willing to weld together some suitable wordcraft for the rounds.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: StagnantSoul on June 23, 2015, 06:54:23 pm
Can I sign up as a serpent man with an iron long sword, proficient swordsman, with an iron helm, mail shirt, and gauntlets?

Merp, nevermind.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 08:44:38 pm
Elimination II Match IV
Hokiak of Dryclaw VS. Sath the Cloakbearer

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

This is your new announcer here, bringing you the fourth match of the second qualifiers, from the rustic arena of Klassic! A bold Human warrior, with a sword that's probably taller than his opponent, a wily Bark scorpion man!

Sath the Cloakbearer is returning once more to the arena, having had his legs stitched back on, and he's even rinsed the smears of gremlin off of his famous cloak!

And Hokiak of Dryclaw, full of vim, vigour, and a venom so toxic it makes grown men beg for mercy! Will his pincers beat Sath's cold steel? Let's find out!




Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Sath, Sath! He disarmed, or perhaps dishanded Hokiak with his first solid blow! Poor Hokiak was left grasping at straws, until Sath's sword introduced his chest cavity to a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 23, 2015, 08:57:20 pm
Yay! Thanks for covering for me, I currently don't have computer access, so it'd be difficult to do.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 09:28:39 pm
Yay! Thanks for covering for me, I currently don't have computer access, so it'd be difficult to do.

No problem :) I'll spit out the others any minute now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 23, 2015, 09:44:20 pm
Waiting with bated breath right now, things do not look good for Uncle Dorian.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 09:47:42 pm
Elimination II Match V
"Uncle" Dorian, Hero of the Freeclimbers VS. Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Here on Water Hazard, a strange duo enter the arena. "Uncle" Dorian, the whip-wielding Jumping-spider man, faces down the diminutive-but-deadly Cerol Trollbane, the knife-wielding Crundle!

Dorian has been using his impressive array of limbs to great effect in this tournament, crushing his Minotaur opponent under his 35,000 Urist carapaced heel. But will his whip-shield-whip-shield-whip-shield combo pull through?

Cerol, at a diminutive 10,000 Urists of weight, has proven a merciless gladiator, downing his opponent in the first round and killing him in a horrifying and prolonged stabfest. But will this corpse-looting Troll-slayer best his arachnid opponent?




Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Cerol went absolutely wild this match, sending Dorian's many, many hands and arms flying around the arena as if they were twigs! Dorian got a few shots off in return, and his spiderish lack of a pain sense served him well to continue fighting, but eventually the blood loss from so many severed limbs got to him. The tiny, behorned Cerol Trollbane wins the match!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 23, 2015, 10:03:55 pm
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)


"I've been injured badly. I can't take it"

Dorian, you coward!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 23, 2015, 10:45:32 pm
Ohh, Nice job crundle ! My money would have been on Dorian.

And glory to our new assistant to the arena master !
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 23, 2015, 11:13:15 pm
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)


"I've been injured badly. I can't take it"

Dorian, you coward!

Yeah, not great for last words. Sorry, Dorian.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 11:50:40 pm
Elimination II Match VI
Tortox the Sly VS. Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Ah, the smell of roasted gladiators and molten bronze. Smells like Heat Stroke! The kickboxing Platypus man, Tortox the Sly faces off against the chitinous lasher, Princess Klackon-ktsss-ktsss!

Tortox the Sly beat his last opponent down with a flurry of kicks, crushing them under his webbed feet (and probably dancing on the remains), will this 36,000 Urist monotreme, clad in the finest helm that money can possibly buy, be able to withstand the Princesses barrage and lay her out with his deadly kicks?

Klackon, weighing in at a sturdy 50,000 Urists, has her four whips primed and ready to spank. Will she crush the duck-billed fighter, for the glory of her nest(and as good practice for proactive rise through the ranks of succession)? Or will she succumb to his poisoned barbs and deadly flipperslaps?




Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

A- ahh... Oh. Oh boy. Well, ladies, gentledwarves, neuters, and whatever other denomination might strike your fancy, that was a rather disappointingly short match. After a single whiffed strike by Tortox, two strikes from Klackon with her copper whips chipped his hand, and then turned his brain to so much platypus stew. Despite the incredible grade of Tortoxes armour, the second blow breezed through it like a sword through paper. Maybe these whips ought to have some further regulations enforced, but what do I know, I just commentate. Klackon wins, while Tortox is slowly being grilled on the hot rock of the arena and should be ready to eat in 30-45 minutes, or until golden brown.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 23, 2015, 11:51:43 pm
Ohh, Nice job crundle ! My money would have been on Dorian.

And glory to our new assistant to the arena master !

Why thank you, Tesseract! :D
I do try my best.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 24, 2015, 12:00:35 am
What was that little dance they seemed to do in the gif?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 12:03:00 am
What was that little dance they seemed to do in the gif?
I'm guessing they were each deciding to pathfind closer to the other, but chose different direction. Repeat a few times.

That or some kind of platypus Haka
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 24, 2015, 12:23:56 am
I thought surely, a helmet forged from the strongest material known to dwarf would be sufficient to guard Tortox' noggin from a mere copper whip. Good game, Klackon.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 01:35:01 am
Elimination II Match VII
Monty the Dark Gnome VS. Zavier Saintcloud

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Well, we sent out the Arena's cleaning crew (an ettin with a bucket) and the mess that was Tortox has been cleaned up! Try not to slip on the roast platypus juices, it's time for Monty the Dark Gnome versus Zavier Saintcloud, the Minotaur wrestler!

Monty won his first round with a very simple tactic: Bash them over the head with his oversized scourge until they die. Will this 15,000 Urist drinkguzzling flayer give us a repeat performance, or will he be torn to pieces by his opponents armoured fists?

Zavier Saintcloud, a seasoned and well-armoured wrestler, is already used to the heat of this arena! Last fight he cooked himself up a quick lunch of Serpent-man, but will this behooved behemoth do the same to his diminutive opponent?




Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

The battle started all according to plan, but one false step from Zavier sent the bull falling straight into the central lava pits! The smoke and smell of roasting beef filled the arena, whilst Monty gleefully bashed him over the head to keep him down, as befits his modus operandi. Eventually, and after some mouth-watering smells, the mighty bull succumbed to having his body converted to what is basically Minotaur soup. Monty wins the round, and the janitor-ettin gets more lunch.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BritishBean on June 24, 2015, 02:48:59 am
Oh my god the image of the dark gnome whacking the minotaur over the head as it tries to pull itself out of the lava.... Not sure whether to laugh or be scared.  :P :P
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 03:47:26 am
Elimination II Match VIII
Varick the Undying VS. Shotgun Gai

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Here we are, back in Klassic, for a standoff between two returning gladiators! The ambitious human, Shotgun Gai with his iron two-handed sword, facing off against the kobold Varick, a veteran decapitatee with a whip of platinium.

Gai won his first round in peerless style, hacking his trollish foe to pieces without taking a hit. Will he pull the same trick off against his new, and notably smaller foe?

Varick brained his foe in the previous round, spreading his deeply traumatised brains over half of the arena. But will this flighty veteran see his fortunes hold true, or will he lose his head once more in the arena?




Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

After a vicious opening barrage, a gentle tap from Varick sends their opponent into a murderous rage! Unluckily for Gai, the next attack inflicts an agonizing bone chip to his arm, and he goes down in pain. The next horrifyingly long section of combat consists largely of Varick tenderising each and every one of Gai's internal organs, until a stray bruising of the heart wakes the sleeping beast! Unfortunately, without his trademark sword, Gai can't stand up to Varicks whippery, and is promptly disposed of with an array of cracked bones, until eventually his brain is ripped to shreds, much the same as Varicks last foe. Varick wins!

And with that, we've finished the second qualifiers! Onward, to the Quarter Finals, gladiators! Onwards, to glory!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 24, 2015, 05:10:15 am
Poor Gai... No man deserves that kind of death...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tavern on June 24, 2015, 07:02:29 am
Dammit :( Shotgun Gai will be back again, someday he'll be champ!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 07:08:39 am
Dammit :( Shotgun Gai will be back again, someday he'll be champ!
He's gonna be, the very best!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 24, 2015, 07:33:16 am
That ... that was ... wow Varick. You were supposed to be beating an opponent, not tenderizing meat for dinner or butchering a corpse.

Even I feel terrible for Gai, that was awful.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 24, 2015, 08:43:27 am
I thought surely, a helmet forged from the strongest material known to dwarf would be sufficient to guard Tortox' noggin from a mere copper whip. Good game, Klackon.

Yeah I think whips do need a debuff then. If a copper whip can pierce the strongest possible armor that easily they are a bit OP imo.

Also Princess Klackon and Tortox's dance was hilarious. Also brutal victory by Varick. I'm glad he finished off the Boat Murderer mercilessly...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 24, 2015, 09:13:03 am
Magma giveth, Magma taketh away :'(  Interesting to note that in both Zavier's matches, whomever started on the left side wound up falling in.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: The Enigmatic L on June 24, 2015, 09:24:54 am
How does it feel to get hit in the hand and spend the rest of the match unconscious and burning in lava, Zavier?

Not too good, is it? xD

EDIT: Someone should draw all of the losers cooking Setro and Zavier over spits who are brofisting or something while we look like the shit was beaten out of us.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 24, 2015, 09:32:27 am
Thank you very much for covering me Mavell, I really appreciate it, round of applause everyone?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 24, 2015, 09:41:30 am
Thank you Mavell, I'm glad you did it because I know I couldn't pull that shit off
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 09:47:32 am
Thank you Mavell, I'm glad you did it because I know I couldn't pull that shit off

Thank you very much for covering me Mavell, I really appreciate it, round of applause everyone?

Glad to be of service! We couldn't have delays in the tournament, could we? The show must go on!

And i will admit, i'm partial to a good bit of writing here and there.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 24, 2015, 10:14:42 am
Spoiler: New Bracket (click to show/hide)

Match I
-Thud the Mad- Managed by Arkansan VS. -Cadedi Icoricera- Managed by Eritzap

Match II
-King Tuticane- Managed by _italics_/xub313 VS. -Sath the Cloakbearer- Managed by foxtrot

Match III
-Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer- Managed by DS VS. -Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss- Managed by Tesseract

Match IV
-Monty the Dark Gnome- Managed by FearsomeClarinet VS. -Varick the Undying- Managed by variablenonsense

Well done everyone! Would those of you who have prevailed update their gladiators now?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 24, 2015, 10:20:35 am
Update

-Sath the Cloakbearer- Managed by Foxtrot
Human +240 +240 round 1 +240 round 2
[Equipment]
Steel 2H Sword - 112 points
[Skills]
High Master Swordsman (13) - 549 points
skilled dodger Dodger (4) - 50 points
Total : 9 points remaining
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 24, 2015, 10:27:28 am
Yeah, I tend to agree that whips are OP. Copper going trough adamandine like butter doesn't seem natural.

That being said, here is Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss' level up :

left over points from last level: 34

2*34 + 250 = 318

Adept doger -> High Master dodger (315 pts)

new character sheet:
Ant-Woman (+250)
[Equipment]
copper whip x4 (-130)
leather helm (-6)
leather cap (-5)
leather mail shirt (-12)
leather breast plate(-10)
leather leggings (-7)
leather greaves (-9)
leather gauntlets (-4)
leather high boots (-5)
[Skills]
adept lasher(-140)
High Master dodger(-455)

Points left : 3
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 24, 2015, 11:39:21 am
Alrighty, so this is Thud's upgrades

-Thud the Mad- managed by Arkansan
Human -240 + 248 round 1 + 256 round 2
[Equipment]
Steel Long Sword - 96
[Skills]
Sword -  90 Accomplished ----> High Master
Dodge - 50 Skilled ------> Proficient

So that leaves me with 241 points spent and 15 remaining.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 24, 2015, 02:51:08 pm
Wow, that match between Cerol and Dorian was close! That lash to the neck moments before Dorian bled out... if he had lasted just a little longer, Cerol would have been helplessly passed out and would certainly have lost.

I'll update as soon as I am able, at work right now.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 24, 2015, 04:03:51 pm
Wow, that match between Cerol and Dorian was close! That lash to the neck moments before Dorian bled out... if he had lasted just a little longer, Cerol would have been helplessly passed out and would certainly have lost.

I'll update as soon as I am able, at work right now.

Right!? Upon further research, it's clear I should have just ditched the fighter skill and put the rest into lashing, dodging, and shielding. Next time....

But for now I've got my money on Cerol to win it all.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 24, 2015, 04:27:03 pm
Wow, that match between Cerol and Dorian was close! That lash to the neck moments before Dorian bled out... if he had lasted just a little longer, Cerol would have been helplessly passed out and would certainly have lost.

I'll update as soon as I am able, at work right now.

Right!? Upon further research, it's clear I should have just ditched the fighter skill and put the rest into lashing, dodging, and shielding. Next time....

But for now I've got my money on Cerol to win it all.

Are we even sure entirely what Fighter does?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 24, 2015, 04:34:43 pm
Wow, that match between Cerol and Dorian was close! That lash to the neck moments before Dorian bled out... if he had lasted just a little longer, Cerol would have been helplessly passed out and would certainly have lost.

I'll update as soon as I am able, at work right now.

Right!? Upon further research, it's clear I should have just ditched the fighter skill and put the rest into lashing, dodging, and shielding. Next time....

But for now I've got my money on Cerol to win it all.

Are we even sure entirely what Fighter does?

Haha, that was the research! From the DF wiki:
Quote
Its use or significance is currently not known. However, when tested in arena mode with two dwarves, one unskilled and one grand master fighter, the one with fighter skill won consistently while armed with any of the default weapons. Unarmed dwarves showed no preference.

So it seems pretty useless.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 24, 2015, 04:38:33 pm
I think that it could be useful for an ant-woman or jumping-spider-man if they use a different weapon in each arm.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 24, 2015, 04:42:25 pm
I think that it could be useful for an ant-woman or jumping-spider-man if they use a different weapon in each arm.

Hmmm, that makes sense. I'm guessing the skill exists to give powerful warriors a little bit of a buff should they be forced to fight with unfamiliar weapons.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 24, 2015, 05:28:38 pm
Strange, I had thought it much more useful than such. Ah well.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 24, 2015, 05:47:04 pm
Well, this is DF we're talking about. It probably factors in to combat in countless, inscrutable ways.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 24, 2015, 07:10:35 pm
Alright, here's my update. I found an error in my point costs in the previous round - it only took 54 points to increase Cerol's Dodging (tiny) skill from Proficient to Adept, not 56. As a result, I had 14 points left over last round, not 12. I've made the corrections to his old stat block, here they are:

Spoiler: Corrected Old Stats (click to show/hide)

So this round, Cerol has double the 14 points left over from the previous round, plus 360 from being a crundle, for a total of 388 points to spend this round. I'll spend 346 points to improve his Dodging (tiny) skill from Adept to Grand Master.

Presenting!

Spoiler: Updated Stats (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 24, 2015, 08:12:33 pm
Alright, here's my update. I found an error in my point costs in the previous round - it only took 54 points to increase Cerol's Dodging (tiny) skill from Proficient to Adept, not 56. As a result, I had 14 points left over last round, not 12. I've made the corrections to his old stat block, here they are:

Spoiler: Corrected Old Stats (click to show/hide)

So this round, Cerol has double the 14 points left over from the previous round, plus 360 from being a crundle, for a total of 388 points to spend this round. I'll spend 346 points to improve his Dodging (tiny) skill from Adept to Grand Master.

Presenting!

Spoiler: Updated Stats (click to show/hide)

Looking at this makes me realise the real depth of the power gap between early and late game. A Crundle in the third round has at the very least 1080 points, whilst a Sasquatch would have 330, less than the crundle or gremlin in the very first round. Blimey charlie.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 24, 2015, 11:01:54 pm
There is obvious balance needed. This will be worked on after the tourney.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: xub313 on June 25, 2015, 12:39:17 am
Here's King Tuttcane's update. :)
Spoiler: King Tut Lv. 2 (click to show/hide)
[Sold]
all the armor for 44.75 points. for a total of 294.75 points.
[Bought]
steel helm, steel mail shirt, steel breastplate, and steel chain leggings. -280 points
-----
14.75 points left over
Spoiler: King Tut Lv. 3 (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 25, 2015, 12:39:42 am
There is obvious balance needed. This will be worked on after the tourney.

I imagine it will be very difficult to balance as the bigger creatures are usually physically stronger yet the smaller creatures are usually more skilled.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 25, 2015, 01:39:58 am
Yes, balance is definitely needed. It might be as simple as narrowing the point gap between the largest and smallest races, and adjusting all others in between accordingly. Or perhaps smaller races would start out with more initial points, with equal point awards for winning matches.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: NAV on June 25, 2015, 01:55:09 am
Yes, balance is definitely needed. It might be as simple as narrowing the point gap between the largest and smallest races, and adjusting all others in between accordingly. Or perhaps smaller races would start out with more initial points, with equal point awards for winning matches.
+1 to the bolded.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: dwarobaki on June 25, 2015, 07:31:18 am
Or perhaps smaller races would start out with more initial points, with equal point awards for winning matches.
+1 to the bolded.
+1
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 25, 2015, 08:10:02 am
Or perhaps smaller races would start out with more initial points, with equal point awards for winning matches.
+1 to the bolded.
+1

Maybe around +150 plus whatever's saved (doubled) for each competitor? So there'd still be an advantage to being a little snot, which is to say more initial spendable/bankable points, but the big guys don't get shafted, and littleuns don't end up with grand master in two skills one round in.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 25, 2015, 12:18:00 pm
I feel that 150 points would not be much. Having everyone have less points doesn't seem fun. I'm trying to find a way to balance that, but I always end up with impractical and overly complicated solutions.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 25, 2015, 12:57:15 pm
Wow, what a beautiful set of matches!

Obviously, I particularly like how The Serpent King has been shaking everything in his path into delicious little pieces. Great job, xub313!

Surely Sath will be decloaked in the same manner!


Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Eritzap on June 25, 2015, 01:23:41 pm
I can't believe Cadedi is still in game. I'm no confident for her next match however...

\o/ LEVEL UP \o/
Cadedi Icoricera
Female Elf

Expert Pikeman (180)
Expert Fighter (108)
Proficient Dodger (75)
Skilled Armor User (20)

Steel Pike (88)

Steel Helm (48)
Steel Breastplate (80)
Steel Greaves (72)
Steel High Boots (40)

Points left: 9 /720
Spoiler: Updates (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 25, 2015, 02:34:51 pm
I can't believe Cadedi is still in game. I'm no confident for her next match however...

\o/ LEVEL UP \o/
Cadedi Icoricera
Female Elf

Expert Pikeman (180)
Expert Fighter (108)
Proficient Dodger (75)
Skilled Armor User (20)

Steel Pike (88)

Steel Helm (48)
Steel Breastplate (80)
Steel Greaves (72)
Steel High Boots (40)

Points left: 9 /720
Spoiler: Updates (click to show/hide)

I don't know, upgrading to steel armor might just make things interesting. Thud is still unarmored so if she can get home first it's still likely to go in her favor, particularly if it's a head or limb shot.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: MrLupenTails on June 25, 2015, 02:40:29 pm
The best defense is a good offense. I've learned that the hard way.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 25, 2015, 03:26:21 pm
The best defense is completely paralyzing your opponent!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on June 25, 2015, 03:53:45 pm
The best defense is completely paralyzing your opponent!

I second this.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 25, 2015, 06:32:44 pm
I feel that 150 points would not be much. Having everyone have less points doesn't seem fun. I'm trying to find a way to balance that, but I always end up with impractical and overly complicated solutions.
Having thought about it a bit more, more than that might be good yes. It's hard not to unintentionally get all overelaborate with solutions and alterations.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 26, 2015, 10:06:18 am
Two more updates left until the next round can start, i believe. Monty, who had to be freakishly posessed by the arena master in order to churn out an upgrade last time, and... Varick? Oh Variablenoooonsense~!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 26, 2015, 10:47:35 am
Sorry guys, gimme a minute and I'll update. :P

EDIT

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

-Varick the Undying- managed by variablenonsense
Kobold Round 1: 290 pts | Round 2: 328 pts | Round 3: 298 pts
[Equipment]
Platinum whip - 104 points
[Skills]
High Master Dodger - 404 points
Great Lasher - 330 points
Novice Swimmer - 2 points
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 26, 2015, 02:37:31 pm
FearsomeClarinet (Monty's manager) last posted on June 13th. That's almost two weeks of inactivity - I don't think we should wait for them to show up to continue the tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 26, 2015, 05:59:11 pm
I agree with DS
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 26, 2015, 06:01:25 pm
Agreed, I'd hate to see us get hung up. I'm sure they would be ok with it circumstances given. I know I'd want the tournament to continue if I weren't posting for some reason.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 26, 2015, 07:08:35 pm
I guess that makes Monty property of the arena, sorry for making you wait everyone, I shall begin the quart-finals soon!

-Monty the Dark Gnome- managed by FearsomeClarinet
360 + 360 + 372 Points
[Equipment]
112 Points: Steel Scourge
37.5 Points: Copper Buckler
15 Points: Copper Helm
24 Points: Copper Mail Shirt
7 Points: Leather Leggings
4 Points: Leather Gauntlets
5 Points: Leather High Boots
[Skills]
30 + 195 + 300 Points: Grand Master Lasher
89 + 107 + 45 Points: Accomplished Dodger
12 Points: Competent Armor User
24 + 16 Points: Skilled Shield User
27 Points Remain
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 26, 2015, 07:38:30 pm
Quarter-Final Match I
Thud the Mad VS. Cadedi Icoricera

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Ugh! Leave your seat for one moment and some random bastard decides that he is the new commentator. Disgusting, you have no idea how often random jokers wander into the arena master booth. I need some guards, any who;

Welcome to the first quarter-final match. Today we have the ever more maddening Thud. Looks like he has picked up quite a few new tricks with a blade, a master swordsman I would say. But can his spindly metal stick penetrate the grand defense of his opponent?

That's right, that little she-elf has come a long ways. Now clad in a full set of steel plate, she's traded out mobility for a skin of metal. But can she and her pikemanship withstand the furious onslaught of the insane? Let us find out!



Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Aha! It would seem the the madman didn't have to penetrate the thick armor at all! With his superior positioning, Thud was able to force Cadedi straight into that sweet hot drink. The poor elf remarks that such a defeat is irritating, I'm sure it is.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 26, 2015, 07:46:58 pm
Quarter-Final Match II
King Tuticane VS. Sath the Cloakbearer

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

And now we've returned to the lovely meadows. Ya know I'm surprised how well our janitors clean up all the blood and gore left behind, just look at this place.

King Tuticane returns, his paralytic venom has caused many a creature to expire. Perhaps to the point where more regulations should be put on natural weapons as such. Anyway, can this regal lord continue his vicious streak of consumption?

Especially against the cloaked Sath, let us not forget the exceedingly large pointed stick he carries in both hands. We've seen decapitations and other limbs flying from his mighty cleaves, surely this will be no different!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Well I suppose it was quite different, the horrid serpent king took but one bite upon the poor unarmored human. And thus the match was over, taking his time, Tuticane began engulfing the flesh of the defenseless Sath.

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 26, 2015, 08:07:27 pm
Quarter-Final Match III
Cerol Trollbane, Monster Slayer VS. Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

There really is something special about having a good old klassic arena bout, ya know? There's that lovely scent, metal and blood simply divine.

Ah, here is that lovable little scamp, the monster slayer from the underdark caverns, give it up for Cerol the crundle! Yes indeed, this little red rascal has put an end to countless trolls and other horrors from the deeps. Can such a legendary crundle defeat another cavern dweller?

That's right, his opponent is Princess Klackon, a much different sort of deep creature. This four armed beauty has brought along her mighty defense to ward off blows. Will this ant woman slay such an innocent looking creature as Cerol?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

It would seem so, thanks mostly to the princess's immense resistance to pain! Some may see it as a weakness, but not this dazzling ant woman. Surely she has the audience swooning over her!

Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 26, 2015, 08:19:54 pm
Quarter-Final Match IV
Varick the Undying VS. Monty the Dark Gnome

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Let's hope that we see some lovely drowning. I wanna see the light fade from a gladiator's eyes as they lose consciousness, being engulfed by the sea monster infested waters!

Varick the Undying, truly such. But only thanks to my surgery of course. I've put that little 'bold back together countless times! But still, the guy is truly a warrior, endless perseverance aids his fights through the tourney, but will it be enough?

Monty the Dark Gnome, now in the arena's possession due to the unfortunate passing of his manager, has been blasting through his fights excellently, well, maybe not so. After a match where the odds were stacked impossibly against him, he prevailed. Will we see such an outcome today?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

I suppose not, looks like I'm going to have to revise water hazard, I must say, I'm a bit disappointing in its performance thus far. Not a single drowning! Ah well, congratulations to our semi-finalists!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 26, 2015, 08:44:18 pm
A fine round of fights! Shame about Thud's match, I was hoping for a real slobber knocker. On a side note that damn snake is scary!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 26, 2015, 09:05:25 pm
Curse ye poison resistance!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 26, 2015, 09:06:37 pm
Some good fights there! Thud's shaping up to be a terrifying competitor. Pity sath lost though, i was banking on him after the eliminations.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Immortal-D on June 26, 2015, 09:16:14 pm
I muse that not only has every battle in Heat Stroke resulted in fiery death, every victim of the lava only fell in after having their hand attacked ::)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 27, 2015, 01:43:28 am
Quote from: King Tuticane
Sssath'sss time in the arena wasss ssso brief, but ssso tasssty!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 27, 2015, 07:58:54 am
A fine round of fights! Shame about Thud's match, I was hoping for a real slobber knocker. On a side note that damn snake is scary!

I was a bit surprised at the sad performance of the serpent men in the previous round. They seemed to have a lot more potential. Now that damn scary snake King Tuticane has certainly redeemed them.

So, after devouring a few hundred practice elves and humans, he has decided on the following build, continuing on Master xub313's Armor-Serpent idea. He doesn't have legs, but he does indeed have arms, so some diamond adorned steel gauntlets are in order.

I present:

King Tuticane, the slayer of Uric of Battlefailed, devourer of Flakshed the Macebird and decloaker of Sath the Cloakbearer!

-King Tuticane- managed by _italics_
Serpent Man (250 points)
[Equipment]
Steel helm
Steel mail shirt
Steel breastplate
Steel leggings
Steel gauntlet [2]
[Skills]
Competent Dodger
Accomplished Biter
Grand Master Armor user

Remaining 211.4 points

Spoiler: Update info (click to show/hide)

Good luck to Thud the Mad, hopefully his insanity shields him from understanding what will happen to him!

edit: Save points for finals instead of Grand Master Biter
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 27, 2015, 03:33:56 pm
Ok so for this round Thud has 270 due to leftover points.

So I'm going to upgrade his Sword skill to Grandmasters and his Dodge to Professional. Leaving him 36 points.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DS on June 27, 2015, 04:25:29 pm
Whoa, what an upset! Cerol, noooooooooo!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 27, 2015, 04:29:52 pm
Alright, just need Varick and Klackon's updates. And then the semi-finals.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 27, 2015, 05:26:47 pm
All right, here it is for Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss:

points left from last level-up : 3

3* 2 + 250 = 256 (gotta love a nice round number)

high master dodger -> grand master dodger (70)
adept lasher -> accomplished lasher (135)

points left : 51
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 27, 2015, 08:26:05 pm
I have an idea for balancing smaller and bigger creatures. I think that Mavell was onto something with giving the bonus only on the first fight and afterwards keeping the amount of level-up points the same for everyone. A thing that we could do is give points to smaller creatures that can only be spent for equipment, and cannot be banked. The bonus value could be a function of weight, something like nbEquipmentPts = maxValue - (weight * coefficient). That way, smaller creatures dont end up with incredibly high skills and bankable points, yet keep an ongoing advantage.

I don't know what the exact formula should be. Logically, the biggest creature available should have near 0 bonus equipment points, and the smallest creature would have close to the max value. The amount of points given to every gladiator at each level should be around 250 I think. I believe that 500 points for a max value could work, but maybe it's too much.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 28, 2015, 08:34:27 am
Interesting suggestion, Tesseract. Though, I think there is a lot of charm in having to balance equipment versus skills. Unarmored skilled gladiators vs. fully clad ones etc.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 28, 2015, 10:29:31 am
ahm, please someone update varick with idk lasher and then fighter skills. I am on mobile briefly but typing is seriously not fun with my arm right now so I'd appreciate it  a lot.

 :-\ Sorry for any delay again. still loving reading the matches but sitting at my desktop to update hurts.

edit he should have 290+28 so 318 i believe
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Azhf on June 28, 2015, 10:30:50 am
Vari, you defeated me waaay back in round 1. Now go be a champion. I'd rather be a stepping stone to victory than a side character.

Also, a shame Cerol lost. I was rooting for him.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 28, 2015, 10:33:15 am
haha I hope so!  that's all i was gonna put on him anyway so we'll see how it goes :)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 29, 2015, 03:29:47 am
ahm, please someone update varick with idk lasher and then fighter skills. I am on mobile briefly but typing is seriously not fun with my arm right now so I'd appreciate it  a lot.

 :-\ Sorry for any delay again. still loving reading the matches but sitting at my desktop to update hurts.

edit he should have 290+28 so 318 i believe

Oh, the nasty little kobold has broken your arms?

So, 318 points
Great -> High Master Lasher: 195 points
Expert Figher: 108 points
Remaining: 15 points

-Varick the Undying- managed by variablenonsense
Kobold Round 1: 290 pts | Round 2: 328 pts | Round 3: 298 pts | Round 4: 318 points
[Equipment]
Platinum whip - 104 points
[Skills]
High Master Dodger - 404 points
High Master Lasher - 525 points
Expert Fighter - 108 points
Novice Swimmer - 2 points
Remaining 15 points
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 29, 2015, 05:51:12 am
looks good now let the fighting begin
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 29, 2015, 06:21:32 am
Choo choo, semi-finals, awaaaaay!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 29, 2015, 08:39:43 am
looks good now let the fighting begin

Oh hey, it's the amazing artist Foxtrot! (Rolling 1d20 for flattery skill check) While we're waiting for the arena master, perhaps you could draw up the regal armored serpent anxiously waiting to sink his teeth into some delicious Thud flesh? <3
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on June 29, 2015, 05:07:21 pm
Quote
Oh hey, it's the amazing artist Foxtrot! (Rolling 1d20 for flattery skill check) While we're waiting for the arena master, perhaps you could draw up the regal armored serpent anxiously waiting to sink his teeth into some delicious Thud flesh? <3

Of course!
Here is an image of King Tuticane in his steel armor.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 29, 2015, 05:13:52 pm
Dude, that's incredible.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 29, 2015, 05:48:46 pm
Ohh, that is awesome! Don't suppose I could get one of Thud could I?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 29, 2015, 05:56:44 pm
The semi-finals shall begin soon!

Match I
-Thud the Mad- Managed by Arkansan VS. -King Tuticane- Managed by _italics_/xub313

Match II
-Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss- Managed by Tesseract VS. -Varick the Undying- Managed by variablenonsense
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 29, 2015, 06:17:55 pm
Semi-Final Match I
Thud the Mad VS. King Tuticane

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Welcome everyone, the semi finals are a very tense time. Perhaps even more than the finals itself for some people, who will be going onward?

Will it be the rather insane swordsman Thud? The man who has proven again and again that true swordsship does not require a zen like state nor any sort of finer intelligence. Perhaps the only true way to mastery is through great emotion, whether that be rage or otherwise.

Or will it be our great lord Tuticane, the wise and noble and lovely and strong and etc. Yeah I swear he didn't pay us off with beautiful bath soaps. Any who, this slippery serpent has been paralyzing and consuming flesh left and right. Will Thud just be another bit of viscera in the snake's fangs? Let's find out!


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

Ohh, looks like it is so. How lovely, the kingly serpent is now picking the nasty bits out with the poor madman's metal stick! Well done lordly serpent.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Arkansan on June 29, 2015, 06:22:07 pm
Ahh blast it! Oh well, he had a good run. They don't call that snake "King" for nothing apparently.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on June 29, 2015, 06:29:37 pm
Semi-Final Match I
Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss VS. Varick the Undying

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Now I've said that there is something special about the klassic arena, but in all honesty the best has gotta be when you see those roasting corpses. Mmmm.

Who is gonna burn today? Will it be the beautiful princess? Her spinning whips of extreme death and punishment are surely to be feared. Perhaps one of the strongest weapons we've ever seen around these parts. A simple string of copper, destroying a helmet of pure candy.

Or will Varick, that courageous kobold who just won't stay down. I just hope I don't have to put his head back on after this fight. I'm a surgeon not a miracle worker. In any case, he also wields a whip, though a much heavier weapon of pure platinum. Will it be enough?


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

The poor guy was dead before he even hit the magma. Ah well, we still have that lovely roasted flesh smell, well done dear princess.

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Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: PresidentFord on June 29, 2015, 06:49:20 pm
Hahahaha, whip crack to the dome before collapsing backward into the magma? Beautiful, a truly dwarfy death for the little 'bold.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 29, 2015, 06:57:13 pm
You where a truly mighty kobold, Varick. It was an honor to lash you in the face and dump you in magma.

The final battle will be of royal proportions !

Here is Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss' level up:

points left from last level-up : 51

51 * 2 + 250 = 352

accomplished lasher -> grand master lasher (250)
0 -> adept observer (84)
0 -> competent armor user (12)
0 -> novice fighter (3)

points left : 3

New character sheet:
Ant-Woman
[Equipment]
copper whip x4
leather helm
leather cap
leather mail shirt
leather breast plate
leather leggings
leather greaves
leather gauntlets
leather high boots
[Skills]
grand master lasher
grand master dodger
adept observer
competent armor user
novice fighter
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Calidovi on June 29, 2015, 07:48:24 pm
Certainly a courageous fighter.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: variablenonsense on June 30, 2015, 02:08:06 am
'Twas a beautiful fight! ;D Good luck, Princess!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 30, 2015, 02:57:30 am
Ah, great Semi-finals! aand an interesting pair of gladiators facing off, too! Snake versus ant, ever so odd.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 30, 2015, 04:26:21 am
Question for the more statistically inclined amoung us, just purely objectively, and in no way directly related to my next potential tournament gladiator entry, how terrifying would you expect a monitor lizard man wielding two great axes to be?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 30, 2015, 08:05:59 am
I don't know, but being amphibious, they could be cool on a map with lots of water. However, the min size to equip a great axe one-handed is 77500. Reptile-men being 50000, it might not work. No idea what the rules are for multiple heavy weapons.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 30, 2015, 08:40:46 am
I don't know, but being amphibious, they could be cool on a map with lots of water. However, the min size to equip a great axe one-handed is 77500. Reptile-men being 50000, it might not work. No idea what the rules are for multiple heavy weapons.

Ah, but you must remember the distinction between the underground "reptile man" and the more specific "humanoidish variant of 'X'" animal men, the latter being what a monitor lizard man is. Checking the raws as according to the wiki, they clock in at a cool 80,000 urists, just large enough for the einhanding of those sweet sweet axes. A reptile man would be cool too though, the amphibious could really bail someone out. Or perhaps a plump helmet man, to survive prolonged lava dunks relatively unharmed.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on June 30, 2015, 08:48:34 am
Oh ! Well then, I don't know much about statistics but I think that a monitor lizard man with two great axes would be terrifying.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 30, 2015, 09:04:34 am
Oh ! Well then, I don't know much about statistics but I think that a monitor lizard man with two great axes would be terrifying.
Perfect.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 30, 2015, 10:30:41 am
Good morning everyone, what's that delicious barbecued smell? Oh, it's poor Varick!  And holy crap, that magma pool is dangerous for the dodgers. Will Varick the Undying be patched up again or was he reduced to cinders?! Hopefully someone is really good with the glue! I look forward to killing him again...

Thud scratched the hand of the King. Royally unacceptable and the King was quite shaken up about it! Or was that Thud? Yes, Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it! Thud was shaken around by it!

(Technical note: I'm not sure if upgrades got through, the gladiator stats posted before the match seem to be pre-upgrade and no sign of steel gauntlets, which may have helped me because I didn't spend my skills. Though, my pregame testing hinted that Thud had no chance to win in a classic match even with his upgrades. If he swapped his steel sword with an adamantium one, it would be an even fight (assuming I upgraded dodge))

In any case, leftover from previous round was 211.4 points, so this King of the Desert should have a whopping 672.8 points for the final match against the princess who will (probably) never be queen.

After determining that armor and other skills are completely useless here, Tuticane sells his steel armor and dons his Adamantine Crown.

Roll out the bloody carpet for King Tuticane!

-King Tuticane- managed by _italics_/xub313
Serpent Man (250 points)
[Equipment]
Adamantine helm
[Skills]
Grand Master Dodger
High Master Biter
Grand Master Armor user

Spoiler: Upgrade details (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 30, 2015, 11:00:39 am
Question for the more statistically inclined amoung us, just purely objectively, and in no way directly related to my next potential tournament gladiator entry, how terrifying would you expect a monitor lizard man wielding two great axes to be?

Not at home now, but I can run a few statistical tests tomorrow if you show me the variations. However, my earlier testing indicated that the kobolds seemed to fare better with one dagger and more skill than with two, but then again my testing used to have a lot of flaws. Probably still does.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on June 30, 2015, 11:02:52 am
Quote
Oh hey, it's the amazing artist Foxtrot! (Rolling 1d20 for flattery skill check) While we're waiting for the arena master, perhaps you could draw up the regal armored serpent anxiously waiting to sink his teeth into some delicious Thud flesh? <3

Of course!
Here is an image of King Tuticane in his steel armor.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Absolutely awesome! Thanks!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on June 30, 2015, 06:36:18 pm
Question for the more statistically inclined amoung us, just purely objectively, and in no way directly related to my next potential tournament gladiator entry, how terrifying would you expect a monitor lizard man wielding two great axes to be?

Not at home now, but I can run a few statistical tests tomorrow if you show me the variations. However, my earlier testing indicated that the kobolds seemed to fare better with one dagger and more skill than with two, but then again my testing used to have a lot of flaws. Probably still does.

Maybe i'll start with one axe and more skill, then pick up a second axe once my skill is notably high.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 01, 2015, 06:19:59 am
Cmon Unraveller, we're ready as anything. Bracing ourselves, all that jazz. Hit us!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: dwarobaki on July 01, 2015, 07:57:40 am
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on July 01, 2015, 10:15:37 am
Here's a backstage view of my test arena before the cleaning crews set in.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(Not shown: Dwarven Fortress where the completely voluntary test subjects are recruited)

This is after 1000 fights between Monty vs. Ilpi. As a reward, the winner is slain, of course. Don't want old injuries to interfere with the !!SCIENCE!!. So in total there are 2000 corpses and countless body parts here. If you were wondering what that 2 in the peaceful meadow is, it's Dark Gnome 344's right lower arm. Actually all the body parts outside the arena are Dark Gnome body parts, but there's also a decent amount of human blood outside.

(For FPS reasons, all liquids were removed and usually the arena is cleaned between fights)

I was wondering if drgnlord made a mistake in his simulator, or find out exactly how lucky Monty was to win that fight. Indeed he was incredibly lucky. After 4000 simulated fights, I found that Dark Gnome 3730 managed to beat the human battle axe wielder. If the probability is indeed 1/4000, that's like getting 12 tails in a row with a fair coin or getting Four of a kind in five card stud poker. Not impossible, but very lucky!

Here's some data which shows what happens to the win ratio when whip skill is increased:
Spoiler: Monty vs Ilpi (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 01, 2015, 10:41:07 am
Here's a backstage view of my test arena before the cleaning crews set in.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

(Not shown: Dwarven Fortress where the completely voluntary test subjects are recruited)

This is after 1000 fights between Monty vs. Ilpi. As a reward, the winner is slain, of course. Don't want old injuries to interfere with the !!SCIENCE!!. So in total there are 2000 corpses and countless body parts here. If you were wondering what that 2 in the peaceful meadow is, it's Dark Gnome 344's right lower arm. Actually all the body parts outside the arena are Dark Gnome body parts, but there's also a decent amount of human blood outside.

(For FPS reasons, all liquids were removed and usually the arena is cleaned between fights)

I was wondering if drgnlord made a mistake in his simulator, or find out exactly how lucky Monty was to win that fight. Indeed he was incredibly lucky. After 4000 simulated fights, I found that Dark Gnome 3730 managed to beat the human battle axe wielder. If the probability is indeed 1/4000, that's like getting 12 tails in a row with a fair coin or getting Four of a kind in five card stud poker. Not impossible, but very lucky!

Here's some data which shows what happens to the win ratio when whip skill is increased:
Spoiler: Monty vs Ilpi (click to show/hide)

Blimey charlie. That's, uh. An awful lot of dead gnomes.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on July 01, 2015, 04:30:05 pm
Now there's something you don't see everyday.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on July 01, 2015, 05:43:27 pm
CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT
Princess Klackon-Ktsss-Ktss VS. King Tuticane

Spoiler: Gladiators (click to show/hide)

Welcome! Welcome! The final match of our humble tourney. Today on this fine day we have two very deadly competitors facing off upon the great vertigo bridge.

Up first we have the impossible beautiful princess. This royal blooded ant-woman has really shown what four arms can do. Each holding this incredibly potent copper whips that she holds so dearly. This girl has cracked countless skulls just to be a part of the tourney, and several more within its walls. But can here grand skills of lashing really save her from the vile maw of her foe?

A returning manager, _italics_ has brought us his next in line to become champion. After proving his worth as a manager in the previous tournament he has certainly come back, in force, to defend the title. Now here with his mighty serpent king, Tuticane and their paralytic venom, they've eaten all the competition. Donning his regal crown for this battle, he hopes to take the win. For whatever reason a king would be interested in such.


Spoiler: Battle Gif (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Battle Log (click to show/hide)

What an upset! I say so because, let's all be honest, we thought that the king of venom would easily win out the day. But no, no, no, Klackon gave the poor king a taste of his own medicine with a gnaw of her own! The wise princess made sure not to aim for the head, surely such a helm would defend against any attack, well, don't tell that to Tortox. In the end, the unconcious serpent falls before the in-line ant-woman, may she now have the recognition to become queen!

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Thank you so much everyone, sorry I have been so lax on the updates, streaming (http://www.twitch.tv/unraveller) eats up so much of my time, but it is so worth it! I hope each of you enjoyed this as much as I, see you all again on July 14th for the third tourney!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: foxtrot on July 01, 2015, 05:50:18 pm
Well done Princess,


Il defeat your gladiator one day Tesseract,
one day...
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 01, 2015, 06:20:25 pm
Oh my! Well, the helmet definitely did its job, but that breastplate would have likely been appreciated for about four fifths of that gruesome combat log.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: DoctorMcTaalik on July 02, 2015, 12:32:42 am
I'm actually relieved that Tortox died in a single hit, after seeing the fury with which Klackon lashed King Tuticane. Well done, princess. Well done.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on July 02, 2015, 12:41:51 am
Victory ! That match was intense! I bit his thumb before opening him and lashing his organs. Thanks for the tournament, Unraveller. It was as fun as last time and I look forward to the next one.

Well played everyone!

I believe that whips are still too strong for their cost.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: _italics_ on July 02, 2015, 04:44:15 am
WHAT?! Did you not receive the bath salts, Unraveller? She was supposed to be drugged! Oh well, I guess the world is actually better off without his extravagant daily diet, eating a bit of flesh of each of the sentient races at every meal.

Congratulations, Tesseract! I will now download Master of Orion and give the Klackons a total and humiliating subjugation.

It really is pretty difficult to balance this game. However, the whips remove the point of armor from the game a bit too easily.

Results with full steel: tuticane 851 x 149 klackon 85.1% x 14.9%
Results with just the crown: tuticane 834 x 166 klackon 83.4% x 16.6%

So a breastplate wouldn't actually have helped much. Also this shows how good the serpent was, though, I think that was mostly because of the massive amount of skill point difference. Which he actually had *because* of the steel armor versus his semi-final opponent who couldn't penetrate it easily enough. Pre-upgrade I believe he had something like 60% win chance against Klackon, so serpent venom is also pretty OP. But the princess only had leather armor, so...

Anyway, fun round again, thanks for hosting!
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on July 02, 2015, 11:44:48 am
Well done Princess,


Il defeat your gladiator one day Tesseract,
one day...


All I have to say about that : https://youtu.be/R_eNtBFRc_w?t=5s
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 02, 2015, 06:22:13 pm
Victory ! That match was intense! I bit his thumb before opening him and lashing his organs.

Do you quarrel, sir!?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: BigHatLogan on July 03, 2015, 01:42:51 am
Noooo! I forgot about this! I'll have to join the next one if it happens.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Rumrusher on July 03, 2015, 05:32:32 am
wonder if mounted combat would be a thing next season. I learn that you can stack loads of combatants onto a single mount.
and creatures with MOUNT tokens can be used in arena as ridden combatants. so tournament owner could just slap the mount token on everyone/thing and set up more match types.
then again this leads to the question how many points does it take for someone to buy a bull or cat to ride into battle?
haven't tested if sharks could be mounted and thus allows for Sea battles, Whale vs Whale Team battles.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 03, 2015, 08:26:22 am
wonder if mounted combat would be a thing next season. I learn that you can stack loads of combatants onto a single mount.
and creatures with MOUNT tokens can be used in arena as ridden combatants. so tournament owner could just slap the mount token on everyone/thing and set up more match types.
then again this leads to the question how many points does it take for someone to buy a bull or cat to ride into battle?
haven't tested if sharks could be mounted and thus allows for Sea battles, Whale vs Whale Team battles.

I... Oh my. I'm just imagining all of my potential gladiators mounted on mighty steeds etc as well and i thiiink im a bit aroused.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Calidovi on July 03, 2015, 10:59:00 am
wonder if mounted combat would be a thing next season. I learn that you can stack loads of combatants onto a single mount.
and creatures with MOUNT tokens can be used in arena as ridden combatants. so tournament owner could just slap the mount token on everyone/thing and set up more match types.
then again this leads to the question how many points does it take for someone to buy a bull or cat to ride into battle?
haven't tested if sharks could be mounted and thus allows for Sea battles, Whale vs Whale Team battles.

Why haven't team gladiator matches been put in?
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Tesseract on July 03, 2015, 01:27:53 pm
wonder if mounted combat would be a thing next season. I learn that you can stack loads of combatants onto a single mount.
and creatures with MOUNT tokens can be used in arena as ridden combatants. so tournament owner could just slap the mount token on everyone/thing and set up more match types.
then again this leads to the question how many points does it take for someone to buy a bull or cat to ride into battle?
haven't tested if sharks could be mounted and thus allows for Sea battles, Whale vs Whale Team battles.

Why haven't team gladiator matches been put in?

We're keeping it simple for the main tournament, but it has been suggested that during the downtime for level-up, matches could be held between the losers with different rules, like team matches, melee, team against monsters, etc. However, it would have to be organized by someone else because Unraveller already has a lot to do with the main tournament.
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Mavell_Duceau on July 05, 2015, 07:29:56 am
Also. ahem. OI! Unraveller! Go update the main posts of the thread! Just so it's evident at a glance as to how the competition went :p
Title: Re: The Bay12 DF Gladiator Challenge Tournament - Reborn! II
Post by: Unraveller on July 14, 2015, 05:46:00 pm
Tourney number three is up, come on everyone, let us makes some waves! (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=151960.msg6373702#msg6373702)