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Title: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Ghostpaw on May 28, 2008, 08:24:00 pm
So I'm mining the bedroom quarters when I bump into Adamantine.  I think screw it even though the adamantine is going to make the rents sky rocket later.  Now when mining the adamantine I bumb into the demon pits.  

When I looked at the lower levels I find an elf in a constructed cage.  I'm thinking "hurray it really is Happy Fun Stuff".  Anybody know if I can deconstruct the cage, construct it somewhere else, and make a zoo out of it?

I never got to find out myself.  From the demon pits came Spirits of Fire.  it was about 10 Spirits of Fires against my 18 dwarves.  In the onsuring battle, one Spirit of Fire died and one lost its hand.  I'm wondering how often do Spirit of Fires come out of demon pits compared to the other types of demons?

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Derakon on May 28, 2008, 09:10:00 pm
Anything in the pits is yours, so yes, you should be able to move the cages around once you've dealt with their guardians.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the type of demon you get depends on the dominate power spheres in your world, but since I don't pay much (any) attention to religion, basically I consider it to be random.

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Ghostpaw on May 28, 2008, 09:17:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Derakon:
<STRONG>Anything in the pits is yours, so yes, you should be able to move the cages around once you've dealt with their guardians.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the type of demon you get depends on the dominate power spheres in your world, but since I don't pay much (any) attention to religion, basically I consider it to be random.</STRONG>


This "dominate power spheres" intrigues me.  Anyone have more information on this?

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Cavalcadeofcats on May 29, 2008, 12:13:00 am
My understanding was that it actually depended on what gods your dwarves (your civilization/outpost) worshipped.
Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Ghostpaw on May 29, 2008, 07:28:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Cavalcadeofcats:
<STRONG>My understanding was that it actually depended on what gods your dwarves (your civilization/outpost) worshipped.</STRONG>

How can you find out what gods your dwarves (your civilization/outpost) worshipped?

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: grelphy on May 29, 2008, 08:29:00 pm
I do it by looking at the relations screen on a variety of dwarves--every dwarf has a relationship with its deity. Highlighting the deity and pressing enter will give you a breif description of the deity.

There's probably a better way--legends, maybe?

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Ghostpaw on May 29, 2008, 09:57:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by grelphy:
<STRONG>I do it by looking at the relations screen on a variety of dwarves--every dwarf has a relationship with its deity. Highlighting the deity and pressing enter will give you a breif description of the deity.

There's probably a better way--legends, maybe?</STRONG>


Which Gods make which demons appear?

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: A_Fey_Dwarf on May 29, 2008, 11:53:00 pm
You might want to put a spoiler note on this topic. You are ruining the "Hidden Fun Stuff" for those "Hidden Fun Stuff" virgins out there.

[ May 30, 2008: Message edited by: A_Fey_Dwarf ]

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Bricktop on May 30, 2008, 10:40:00 am
I thought the whole "dominant sphere" thing with demons was actually connected to what appears in the chamber. Basically, depending on the dominant sphere of the demons depends on what appears in the chamber or something.


Recently, when I broke into a demon pit, I thought it was going to be Spirits of fire, cos there was a magma pit and ashes everywhere, but then I noticed that the pit above had people in chains, an "unknown liquid" (which happens to be white) and pictures of people committing "depraved acts around the place. Got tentacle demons out of it (which, if I remember right, are the depraved act type of demon, possibly with Japanese schoolgirls)

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: LeoLeonardoIII on May 30, 2008, 10:50:00 am
Mo' like dwarven schoolgirls with little ≡Felsite Butterfly Charms≡ in their beard-braids!

So, double eew.

The dwarf is embracing the tentacle demon

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: grelphy on May 30, 2008, 10:57:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by LeoLeonardoIII:
<STRONG>The dwarf is embracing the tentacle demon</STRONG>

O_o

Huh. Now there's an image I'd like to (not) see on an engraving.

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Bricktop on May 30, 2008, 12:40:00 pm
quote:
The Elf is committing a depraved act on the Dwarf


I can only assume its showing an elf give that year's tree-cutting quota.

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Asehujiko on May 30, 2008, 12:51:00 pm
Water in the pits means frogs, white stuff means tentacles and if you don't see anything immediatly obvious then it's spirits for you.
Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Inquisitor Saturn on May 30, 2008, 01:28:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Bricktop:
<STRONG>


I can only assume its showing an elf give that year's tree-cutting quota.</STRONG>


Insert wood joke here

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: A_Fey_Dwarf on May 30, 2008, 03:11:00 pm
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm70/A_Fey_dwarf/Dwarvenembrace.jpg)

This is nearly what you (didn't) want to see.

Any way I got about 25 spirits of fire in my most recent fort. There were ashes everywhere and things on fire. They were absurdly strong, killing my 6 elite hammerdwarves. I did manage to kill 9 Spirits before they overwhelmed me and burnt my fort down.

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Danaru on May 30, 2008, 04:12:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by Asehujiko:
<STRONG>white stuff means tentacles </STRONG>

oh god what

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Ghostpaw on May 30, 2008, 05:40:00 pm
How do you edit titles so I can put spoilers on it?
Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: A_Fey_Dwarf on May 30, 2008, 06:19:00 pm
Edit the first post. At the top of the edit page it should have a space where you can edit the title.
Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: Dwarfaholic on May 31, 2008, 06:17:00 am
quote:
Originally posted by Danaru:
<STRONG>

oh god what</STRONG>


Wut

Title: Re: Elf in Cage & demon randomization
Post by: grelphy on May 31, 2008, 04:49:00 pm
quote:
Originally posted by A_Fey_Dwarf:
snip
This is nearly what you (didn't) want to see.

Huh. I'd never seen 'embraced' on an engraving before.

Also, two demons? That's one heck of a large/depraved dwarf...