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Dwarf Fortress => DF Adventure Mode Discussion => Topic started by: NRDL on January 30, 2016, 08:15:03 pm
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Although its probably dependent on the actual skill, what random ass objects prove to be the best weapons? The one that comes to mind is obviously the pickaxe, although I'm not sure if that actually falls under misc object user. Do chests do any damage? What about statues, staffs, or crutches?
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The pick isn't misc weapon, it uses and improves Miner skill in combat. The density of wooden crutches is to low to be good for anything other than cherry tapping someone for fun and humiliation. A player fortress can produce metal crutches, but if worldgen forts produce them, it's probably at a very low frequency. Bronze and iron shields are solid, heavy and easily obtainable, and they're near enough in impact strength that you can take whichever you find the higher quality for.
If you can handle the encumbrance, there are plenty of high density instruments and furniture. If you're willing to start a fortress to produce something, or use adv-fort, you should try trap components in the best quality materials you can find. From my experience even glass ones are bloody good fun.
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They take a hefty amount of Strength to wield without over-encumbering you, but Corpses of large foes do sizable amounts of damage. My vampire Adventurer was able to pulp body parts into Gore with only a Dabbling rank in Misc. Weapon skill.
Arguably one of the best weapons is to use a Coffin, and then fill it with the bodies of those you've killed, thereby increasing the weight, and by association its power. Hilarious, practical, and pretty damn metal all in one package.
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Shield is the best because you should always have one available.
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From personal experience I've been finding--oddly enough-- a barn owl corpse to be pretty powerful.
I don't even know why I started using it. I was playing a goblin adventurer, killed a barn owl, and just decided it was my new weapon.
Whenever someone gets hit over the head with it, it ever drives the skull through the brain for a kill right then and there or chips the skull and knocks them out.
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Serrated disks rarely get a one shot, but almost always open a major artery and tear tendons and motor nerves. They're a slow but certain death. If you're trying to maximize misc weapon gain rather than optimize damage output right away, these would be ideal weapons. You can deal a mortal wound and disable their ability to attack, so the target is already dead but still standing so you can slash as much and as cruelly as you like until the inevitable. What's more these are light enough to carry multiples for throwing. If they don't finish off a fleeing enemy with one hit, he'll leave a convenient blood trail to follow later, perhaps to his corpse.
Enormous corkscrews are a little heavier, multigrasp, and get one-shots pretty regularly. Just drilling your enemies to death makes them fun.
All trap components have the drawback that you can't attack/dodge with them; if you try, all your attacks will be skipped, including attacks from other sources.
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Slade statues.
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Coffin full of corpses.
Bonus points if are a necromancer, because then you can throw it at your enemies and play pokemon animate a ton of corpses right in their face.
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Rip the enemy's limbs off and beat them to death with it. Or steal tons of skeletons from a tomb, equip as many as you want, and go on a rampage, more skeletons means more fun.
You get more fun if the skeletons are on fire, or if you are on fire.
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Rip the enemy's limbs off and beat them to death with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBgdFi1y98 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBgdFi1y98)
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Ammo counts as misc. object user when used in melee, and it's great at chipping bones and piercing skulls. It also makes a great throwing weapon. When you take into account the time it takes to fire an arrow or shoot a crossbow, you're almost always better off throwing away the bow and playing darts instead.
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Ammo counts as misc. object user when used in melee, and it's great at chipping bones and piercing skulls. It also makes a great throwing weapon. When you take into account the time it takes to fire an arrow or shoot a crossbow, you're almost always better off throwing away the bow and playing darts instead.
The encumbrance of keeping a supply makes them unfeasible for players. Thrown bolts and arrows are always retrievable, so you don't have to carry dozens of them.
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Coffin full of corpses.
Bonus points if are a necromancer, because then you can throw it at your enemies and play pokemon animate a ton of corpses right in their face.
I've never tried to find a coffin in adventure mode. Where do I find our reliably? Will a wooden coffin be worth it? Or can you reliably wield a stone coffin?
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I find that throwing furniture usually works extremely well, especially gold thrones, but they are really heavy and slow you down immensely.
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So yet another suggestion that sounds cool, but isn't feasible for adventurers' purposes. On the other extreme, a simple copper coin has everything you need in a throwing weapon.
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Slade statues.
I've tried using slade statues before as a weapon, but failed to live up to expectations compared to the titans corpse I was carrying behind me. The statue was just so damn heavy, but only did similar amounts of damage.
Coffin full of corpses.
Bonus points if are a necromancer, because then you can throw it at your enemies and play pokemon animate a ton of corpses right in their face.
That's incredibly hilarious, I didn't know you could use coffins! I'm definitely going to try that... Gotta catch em all
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(http://i.imgur.com/V4Lz5kQ.png)
My full speed is 9.9, I stuffed enough dead goblins into my minecart to slow me down to 3.6, it weighed 8500 Urists and combined with my strength sent people flying to the edge of the screen.
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platinum crutch
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My full speed is 9.9, I stuffed enough dead goblins into my minecart to slow me down to 3.6, it weighed 8500 Urists and combined with my strength sent people flying to the edge of the screen.
How'd you get it up to 9.9? The highest I've gotten mine is 3.8, although I am carrying armour. I've also become a vampire to double my attributes, I'm not even close to 9.9.
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The thread is metal.
Personally, I love heads. Especially throwing them at fleeing foes.
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My full speed is 9.9, I stuffed enough dead goblins into my minecart to slow me down to 3.6, it weighed 8500 Urists and combined with my strength sent people flying to the edge of the screen.
How'd you get it up to 9.9? The highest I've gotten mine is 3.8, although I am carrying armour. I've also become a vampire to double my attributes, I'm not even close to 9.9.
Mods, the full set of items from semimega/megabeast hearts caps my speed and strength, with each individual one giving varied portions of the total buff.
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Barrels full of sharp rocks can be good, as you can either bash with the barrel or throw the rocks, but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can compare to severed guts. You may be laughing, you may be wondering "hahaha what, how is that better than a chair or a corpse?", but let me explain!
Severed guts (in this case, kobold) seem to have, or at least have had in the past, incredibly high bone damage, even through armor. I whacked a bandit in iron armor with my kobold guts and his ribs were driven through his heart in a single strike.
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With the new bone carving element in the game, I'm wondering how well a bone sceptre would do, compared to say, wooden training weapons.
I tested them out in arena mode to see if they could parry, alas, they can't.
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Barrels full of sharp rocks can be good, as you can either bash with the barrel or throw the rocks, but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING can compare to severed guts. You may be laughing, you may be wondering "hahaha what, how is that better than a chair or a corpse?", but let me explain!
Severed guts (in this case, kobold) seem to have, or at least have had in the past, incredibly high bone damage, even through armor. I whacked a bandit in iron armor with my kobold guts and his ribs were driven through his heart in a single strike.
So it's an organic whip, then? XD
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So yet another suggestion that sounds cool, but isn't feasible for adventurers' purposes. On the other extreme, a simple copper coin has everything you need in a throwing weapon.
Remember that guy who had a stack of coins coated in horrible bleeding dust?
As a superhumanly strong but wounded vampire, I find crutches to be very effective. But not on armored foes, or you'll be beating on that helm all day.
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Most recent adventurer uses two skulls, theya re like maces (especially for a creeping mist thrall)
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Dead elves. Hit them with dead elves.
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Dont like making threads so heres a derail.
Do gauntlets/gloves boots and such effect the damage punches and kicks do?
So if a mood creates a platinum glove, will the punches be heavier?
And do the spikes or ornaments on the item effect it?
Cause I want a platinum glove if it does
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No on all counts. You'll just be getting heavier, less durable armor.
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Your swag rating goes through the roof. Experts say that swag rating is the most important character stat.
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My newest adventurer is bashing skulls in with a *bronze statue* and a chest full of corpses + one stone statue (I had to put the statue in a bag first to fit it in the chest. I was a bit amazed it would actually work). He's having no problems carrying around stuff that weighs tons, as I put some points in his strength.
He's also an elephant man.
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I killed a king with a candy crown with an image of him on it. Then wore it and -wished- I could sit on his thrown.
I also had a long-living adventurer who happened to use teeth to kill people. I even killed a dragon, though it cost me my legs.
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i got a lasher human adventuerer and i carry around some corpses for throwing, and a knife, i just throw jump, pickup and then lash, or i wrestle around the neck then bite them
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Rip the enemy's limbs off and beat them to death with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBgdFi1y98 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvBgdFi1y98)
I thought more of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L83QJODwWfk
Accurate, even down to the head exploding.
Personally I once used a chest which I filled with corpses of my enemies as I went on, along with other heavy objects. Went to the point I got it jammed into a lord's torso.
Coins, as has been already said, are also pretty nice, though I find they're better as substitutes for a ranged weapon than as a bludgeon - they're basically shurikens. I never really managed to kill anyone with coins, but they cripple people really badly and make them easy enough to finish off. For melee severed limbs are pretty good - guts are good too.
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I've got a world with dust clouds that cause paralysis, suffocation, and blinding.
I'm gonna coat things in it.
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I've got a world with dust clouds that cause paralysis, suffocation, and blinding.
I'm gonna coat things in it.
How do you do that without jumping in, does it get coated from just being thrown in the cloud and wouldn't it effect your hands?
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1. Drop something in front of the cloud
2. Wait for it to pass
3. Retrieve item
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1. Drop something in front of the cloud
2. Wait for it to pass
3. Retrieve item
1: Inhale Cloud
2: Stab self in lungs
3: Hold cloth in front of chest wound
4: Rub cloth onto desired item
5: Best plan complete
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If that dust is husking, then that would probably work. I wish you could mutilate yourself, it would be great to cut off infected fingers.
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...I wish you could mutilate yourself...
hehe Only in dwarf fortress.
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Only in dwarf fortress do you actually have a cause to amputate a limb; infected wounds on fingers that wont heal, and no healing potions.
How about beating people with stacks of meat?
I do actually like copper shields, because of how dense they are, for bashing weapons. Always good to have a shield on you.
Your backpack, depending on how much swag you carry around with you, will also make a wonderful bag of hurt.
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All the hardasses seeking a glorious warrior's death must have incurable stubbed toes.
When I get to it I should try "toriko weapons". I found a pestle in a keep and I think it would be good to combo that with another culinary item like a mug or ladle or something. I feel like night creatures are pretty rare which sucks because they are really good chef villains.