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Title: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 13, 2016, 10:16:56 pm
(http://1.1.1.1/bmi/i.imgur.com/NjECjIW.png)

Spoiler: About (click to show/hide)

(we need proofreaders, including suggesting revisions, perhaps artists, and anything else that can help contribute to the energy of this project. I myself will be learning how to make an e-book for the first time so it's all new to me!)

1. Be sure to leave intentional miss-spellings and fonics.

2. At this time game elements will be left in. These will be the last thing to be removed, so should be left in there. They may be useful.

3! Player names WILL be changed, unless you ASK to keep it. You can go a step further and offer up a different name. We may also like to use your posts especially character quotes, please let me know if that's okay! Post permissions in this thread to make it official.


Entry 0:
Spoiler: Backstory (click to show/hide)
Proofread by roseheart! No revisions.

Entry 1:
Spoiler: Specters of War (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6529531#msg6529531) Proofread by roseheart! No revisions.

Spoiler: vehicles (click to show/hide)

Note: Character knowledge assumed after this point.

Entry 2:
Spoiler: Blood on the Sand (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6530903#msg6530903) RH, grammar

Entry 3:
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6533415#msg6533415) Proofread by roseheart! No revisions. Note: some game elements left at this time, please leave.

Entry 4:
Spoiler: Emergence of Titans (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6537871#msg6537871) RH

Entry 5:
Spoiler: Vehicular Slaughter (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6540015#msg6540015) RH, minor grammar fixes

Entry 6:
Spoiler: Rendezvous at the Bay (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6545768#msg6545768) RH, grammar

Entry 7:
Spoiler: Bloons' (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6551785#msg6551785) RH spelling

Spoiler: brain chip ret (click to show/hide)

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Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: Tiruin on August 13, 2016, 11:48:22 pm
Hello! I will be acting as Chief Editor on a project to put TCM's first session of Wikipedia Wars into an eBook. I will need writers and editors to help take the material and make the transition smoothly and in a way that's most enjoyable in this format. If you're interested I'd love to hear!

Most of the proceeds will go to TCM as well so this will be a way to help this crafty writer get recognized buy all new readers!

TCM is distracted with college and I myself will be somewhat distracted from putting everything this project needs into it. So I will need help. We've agreed on a vision for the project though and this is something that should be made!

Now tell me how you can help, dammit.
Err, the tone is pretty mixed given the last sentence o_O Sounded great until the last part came up.
And there needs to be more detail overall with what you're doing if you're going to be asking about a project in general--you can ask yourself 'what do prospective writers and editors need to know' at this point, if that's your goal.
If it's to be monetized or if there needs to be finances--this too should be put down in meticulous detail. It sounds a bit rushed as you wrote it here; it sounds more like an announcement.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 14, 2016, 12:04:17 am
Sure! My main contribution here is that I want to see it happen. And I'm going to keep taking steps till that goal is completed or this project has satisfied everyone interested, which currently involves me and TCM. TCM has given me all liberties to do what I want with this.

If you have details and ideas of how the minutiae should be handled, perhaps you should be put in charge of it.

Err, the tone is pretty mixed given the last sentence o_O Sounded great until the last part came up.


And if it sounded good until the last part, then that is just your first impression of my rally call and it's just an issue of semantics. It's the same as "let's do this" or "who's with me?" or a dozen other things that all mean the same thing.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: Skyrunner on August 14, 2016, 06:10:57 am
I suggest you learn how to edit and publish an ebook. That would be a lot faster than hoping a volunteer walks by all ready to work to turn Wikipedia Wars into an ebook.

I just took a look at WW and I have no idea what it is about. The intersection between "wants to volunteer" and "wikipedia wars is interesting" is very small.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 14, 2016, 10:17:11 am
I suggest you learn how to edit and publish an ebook. That would be a lot faster than hoping a volunteer walks by all ready to work to turn Wikipedia Wars into an ebook.

I just took a look at WW and I have no idea what it is about. The intersection between "wants to volunteer" and "wikipedia wars is interesting" is very small.

Fantastic!
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: BorkBorkGoesTheCode on August 14, 2016, 12:49:14 pm
Will this be a public domain eBook distributed using the CC0 license, or is it informal?
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 14, 2016, 12:59:46 pm
Will this be a public domain eBook distributed using the CC0 license, or is it informal?

Well that idea is for it to be a for-profit item so I believe it wouldn't fall under public domain. But perhaps you'd like to advise differently.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: BorkBorkGoesTheCode on August 14, 2016, 01:16:10 pm
Public domain only means that you can't hold a monopoly on the content. you can still sell the resulting eBook.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 14, 2016, 03:00:09 pm
Public domain only means that you can't hold a monopoly on the content. you can still sell the resulting eBook.

I will be using Amazon, and I will review the options provided.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: BorkBorkGoesTheCode on August 14, 2016, 03:23:43 pm
Disclaimer: I Am Not A Lawyer

This project sounds good! Remember to give credit to the authors if you copy content from Wikipedia.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 14, 2016, 03:56:53 pm
Luckily I have some friends (https://m.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/) in the legal department. I'm also playing with some ideas for how to publish this story without having to change things. If I make this a guide how to host this kind of game and then just give this story as an example then it's instructive and it falls under certain protections... One idea :-)
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 18, 2016, 09:27:22 pm
W00t just reached 40,000 char limit, so thats a thing, will continue here.

Entry 8:
Spoiler: Baseball Jesus (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6556806#msg6556806) RH proofread.

Entry 9:
Spoiler: Fancy Flyin' (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://) RH proofread

Entry 10:
Spoiler: Relative Stagnation (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6561490#msg6561490) RH spelling

Entry 11:
Spoiler: Showdown at the Bay (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6563223#msg6563223)

Entry 12:
Spoiler: The Final Duel (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6564743#msg6564743)

Entry x:
[spoiler=x]x[/spoiler] [url=http://](source)[/url]
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 18, 2016, 09:27:44 pm
Just incase.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: Person on August 19, 2016, 10:21:37 am
Been following this sort of on and off, but I'd like to state officially that I like this project. Am assuming that most of the entries are just in a sort of "first pass" stage to get everything in one place, and that more detail will be added later. The main problem with converting a game like this to a novel I think, is tenses. Third person omnipresent is nice and all, but this could benefit greatly by looking into the characters minds. The only real problem with that is of course the people that played those characters might have different ideas about their thought processes. Wiki Wars constantly shifts between characters due to the nature of how actions are submitted and processed, and that's probably not ideal for a written format. All the same, I can't wait to see how this goes.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on August 20, 2016, 09:39:29 pm
Yes I'd rather ask for too much help and not need it. Then finish compiling the as you say 'first pass' which is exactly right and being underhanded which would slow things down more than they really need to with I know how much enthusiasm and love there is for the games TCM hosts for us. And lets him make a little bit of money and prove it's a possible thing to do for a game host because we're freaking creative people and we shouldn't have to be broke ass and unrecognized.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: TheBiggerFish on September 10, 2016, 09:02:13 am
Thiiiis exists.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on September 11, 2016, 10:33:22 am
Thiiiis exists.
Yessss.
I'd like to announce my officiazation and endorsement for Roseheart's Wiki Wars: The E-Book project. The end goal of the project is to produce an E-Book chronicling the events of the first game of Wiki-Wars that appeared in this thread in a fictionalized format. If you are interested, you can check it out here. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=159981.msg7132772#msg7132772)
My head finally stopped spinning. I'll be sending out post use requests TODAY.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: birdy51 on September 11, 2016, 01:34:40 pm
Hey! Listing my support here as per request. Good luck!
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: tntey on September 11, 2016, 05:56:58 pm
Good luck! Feel free to use my entries!
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: McDonald on September 12, 2016, 03:35:03 pm
Hell yeah, good luck with your project
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: NAV on September 14, 2016, 03:34:51 pm
Cool project. Keep up the good work. You can use my posts.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: Hawk132 on September 25, 2016, 03:21:17 pm
Using my posts is completely fine. There was no need to ask me for this.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: TheBiggerFish on September 25, 2016, 06:13:41 pm
If I ever pop up, you can use my posts as well.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: FallacyofUrist on September 27, 2016, 08:22:38 am
Go ahead and use my posts.
It'll be a while before you need to, but go ahead.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on October 06, 2016, 07:43:51 pm
Thank you! If you happen to see nunzillor, who is a guest, please point em here and let them know I'd appreciate their permissions.

Since, atleast in large users are OK with this, though a few or not or have not declared it so, fo those that have an effort will be made, to preserve their representation of their characters in the book.

Edit: I think that perhaps nunz was banned?
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on November 10, 2016, 11:02:15 pm
Toady has given permission.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on November 15, 2016, 12:37:15 am
This is a quick summary of my vision. Such as to paint a path for the future of this project. Copyrighted material will be replaced. Readers will likely know what is it supposed to be there but will be different enough. I think this will be a place to grow from.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on December 28, 2016, 11:51:43 am
Posting to say and affirm for one, I'm going to continue to see this is a viable and worthwhile project. While it was invigorating to see how much positivity there was for the project, the weight of realizing this was going to be a solo project and I would not get this support I anticipated made it seem like a heavy load.

But my hibernation is nearly complete and this has always been on my mind. Next I'm going to begin tagging elements from the story that have an IP. I will welcome discussion on what they should be replaced with.

Thank you for your interest in this project.
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on January 11, 2017, 07:06:46 pm
Posting back-up copy of post grammer, but otherwise clean copy.

Entry 0:
Spoiler: Backstory (click to show/hide)
Proofread by roseheart! No revisions.

Entry 1:
Spoiler: Specters of War (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6529531#msg6529531) Proofread by roseheart! No revisions.

Spoiler: vehicles (click to show/hide)

Note: Character knowledge assumed after this point.

Entry 2:
Spoiler: Blood on the Sand (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6530903#msg6530903) RH, grammar

Entry 3:
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6533415#msg6533415) Proofread by roseheart! No revisions. Note: some game elements left at this time, please leave.

Entry 4:
Spoiler: Emergence of Titans (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6537871#msg6537871) RH

Entry 5:
Spoiler: Vehicular Slaughter (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6540015#msg6540015) RH, minor grammar fixes

Entry 6:
Spoiler: Rendezvous at the Bay (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6545768#msg6545768) RH, grammar

Entry 7:
Spoiler: Bloons' (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6551785#msg6551785) RH spelling

Spoiler: brain chip ret (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Wikipedia Wars the eBook
Post by: RoseHeart on January 11, 2017, 07:07:39 pm
W00t just reached 40,000 char limit, so thats a thing, will continue here.

Entry 8:
Spoiler: Baseball Jesus (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6556806#msg6556806) RH proofread.

Entry 9:
Spoiler: Fancy Flyin' (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://) RH proofread

Entry 10:
Spoiler: Relative Stagnation (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6561490#msg6561490) RH spelling

Entry 11:
Spoiler: Showdown at the Bay (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6563223#msg6563223)

Entry 12:
Spoiler: The Final Duel (click to show/hide)
(source) (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=153330.msg6564743#msg6564743)

Entry x:
[spoiler=x]x[/spoiler] [url=http://](source)[/url]