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Title: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: nimbilus on April 09, 2017, 05:48:28 am
In the PC Gamer interview: http://www.pcgamer.com/why-the-creator-of-dwarf-fortress-is-really-excited-about-boats/ , Tarn was asked, "When you're implementing a system like economy, for example, do you do a lot of research?" In response, Tarn mentioned his inspiration for Economy in DF came from, "collected economic... I don't remember the name of the book anymore, but an economic geography of the middle ages, like three volumes."

Do you happen to have the name of the book? I searched around and came across a couple and wondered if these were the correct ones.

Mediaeval Economy and Society by M. M. Postan

and

A Social and Economic History of Medieval Europe by Gerald A. Hodgett

In addition, this sounds like a comparable book:  Medieval Cities: Their Origins and the Revival of Trade by Henri Pirenne, Michael McCormick

Thanks,
Nimbilus
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: Streeter on April 12, 2017, 04:46:56 pm
Heck, I'd love to know about what books Toady uses to research no matter the subject. Tell us, Mr Adams!
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: Parsely on April 12, 2017, 08:37:15 pm
PTW
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: mactorg on April 13, 2017, 05:03:03 pm
Not sure if this is the book he talked about but it is a start:  https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-economic-history-of-europe-from-the-decline-of-the-roman-empire/BF4088E7BB8871894D46E2CF1A3494FC (https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/cambridge-economic-history-of-europe-from-the-decline-of-the-roman-empire/BF4088E7BB8871894D46E2CF1A3494FC)

Best,

MacTORG
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: Devast on April 13, 2017, 07:27:04 pm
I have Economic and social history of medieval Europe by Henri Pirenne
I feel it focus's mostly on the economic rather than the social history
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: Toady One on April 14, 2017, 12:05:25 am
Yeah, that link was correct, I think, though I'm not sure about the editions and such.  Think it was the first three volumes here:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/series/cambridge-economic-history-of-europe/45E27C55D4B2F5F793520E4FE0CFFAE7

From Vol 4 on it gets well past the 1400 cutoff.
Title: Re: Books Mentioned in PC Gamer Interview
Post by: Inarius on April 18, 2017, 01:22:20 pm
Moreover, Pirenne is quite obsolete (dating from the 1920's or something like this) and part of his thesis were proven wrong later.

I don't know if it was translated in english but Philippe Contamine has written a very good "L'économie Médiévale" (The Medieval Economy)