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Dwarf Fortress => DF Gameplay Questions => Topic started by: Shizmoo on April 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm

Title: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: Shizmoo on April 10, 2017, 06:09:26 pm
Theres a river and at its end dips to 4-5-6/7 randomly right at the edge of the map and 3 guests refuse to leave that spot. I built a channel and one went out, took 5 steps, then turned around and went back into the river edge with the other guests. Why are they doing this? Is the Inn/Library/Temple full or something? I even had a human diplomat who decides to cross the river by jumping in where they are, but atleast he gets out and acts normal. The fort is out in the open and accessible not even needing to be around a river to get in.
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: Dorfson on April 11, 2017, 01:22:34 am
I have the same problem. But is not a river but a pond near the map edge.
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: vanatteveldt on April 11, 2017, 01:45:34 am
Have you tried magma?
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: PatrikLundell on April 11, 2017, 03:35:32 am
It's a known bug that can also affect Titans and more normal invaders.

If you're using DFHack you can work around it by using the "teleport" command to move them sufficiently far towards a legitimate entrance to path correctly. If you just teleport them out of their body of water they'll just return back.
You can presumably block the path down into the water with a floor (or obsidianize the water with magma, for a similar effect with a larger effort).
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: nuget102 on April 11, 2017, 12:31:02 pm
I would dam the river. I like to dam rivers and to actually expand rivers to sweep away invaders. Heck, move your entrance into the dry  river bed!!!
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: YetAnotherLurker on April 11, 2017, 03:45:22 pm
I would dam the river. I like to dam rivers and to actually expand rivers to sweep away invaders. Heck, move your entrance into the dry  river bed!!!
And then a Gremlin manages to sneak into your fort and pulls the lever controlling the river flow, and everyone drowns.

Damming or diverting the river is my usual solution to visitors and diplomats stuck at the far end as well, though I usually prefer to use a line of pumps across it rather than mess about trying to build things in the riverbed itself.
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: reynoldsj on April 11, 2017, 07:27:40 pm
Umm...how do you dam a river?  Will my dwarves actually build a wall or floodgate in flowing water?
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: Ziusudra on April 11, 2017, 07:37:54 pm
Easiest is if it freezes - then just dig out the ice and replace it with a wall. A more difficult option is to use pumps to try to empty a tile of its water. Here's a guide (http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Damming) on the wiki.
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: reynoldsj on April 11, 2017, 08:41:57 pm
Thanks, I'll read it.
Title: Re: Guests hanging out in river....
Post by: vanatteveldt on April 11, 2017, 10:07:53 pm
Umm...how do you dam a river?  Will my dwarves actually build a wall or floodgate in flowing water?

Have you tried magma? ;-)

Seriously, a fun way to dam a river is to obsidianize tiles near the start with magma, then you can build a bridge/floodgate behind that and channel the obsidian when you're done.

The alternative (if non-freezing biomes) is with pumps, you can pump the water back upstream and create a dry riverbed so you can build the floodgates.