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Finally... => Life Advice => Topic started by: DFNewb on August 23, 2018, 01:24:53 pm
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Anyone live in a place where if a partner cheats, it's a big deal and people will talk about it and slutshame? (imo you can use this term towards men, women, and anything in between)
Where I live, both genders seem to be encouraged to cheat on each other.
I would prefer if the place was in an English speaking country as I know some that are not English speaking that are like this but I don't want to live there.
Anyone know of such a place? I wouldn't mind if it was heavy religious either as long as the language is English.
I want to start a family but I'm having some serious trust issues due to past experiences.
Thanks!
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Most of Western and Eastern Society? Go somewhere super religious I guess. Anywhere in Alabama, the South in general, or maybe Utah--but Salt Lake City was literally founded by a Christian sect persecuted for having multiple wives sooo...
None of my business, but that's a very unhealthy attitude. You want to live in a place that people are socially punished for their indiscretions because of your own prior experiences? That's messed up dawg. You could move to Saudi Arabia I guess. I don't know where the heck you live, but in most places cheating/adultery is generally frowned upon. Sounds more like you just know some shitty people, my guy.
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Most of Western and Eastern Society? Go somewhere super religious I guess. Anywhere in Alabama, the South in general, or maybe Utah--but Salt Lake City was literally founded by a Christian sect persecuted for having multiple wives sooo...
None of my business, but that's a very unhealthy attitude. You want to live in a place that people are socially punished for their indiscretions because of your own prior experiences? That's messed up dawg. You could move to Saudi Arabia I guess. I don't know where the heck you live, but in most places cheating/adultery is generally frowned upon. Sounds more like you just know some shitty people, my guy.
I'm been looking into Utah, it seems to be my first choice at the moment.
I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
Uh, if you're knowingly having sex with somebody that you know is cheating on somebody else, that means you're part of the problem here. If you don't want people to feel rewarded/glorified by cheating on their partners, maybe don't encourage people who are cheating on their partners?
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
Uh, if you're knowingly having sex with somebody that you know is cheating on somebody else, that means you're part of the problem here. If you don't want people to feel rewarded/glorified by cheating on their partners, maybe don't encourage people who are cheating on their partners?
How am I to know about their relationships before adding them on Facebook / meeting their friends?
I find it funny that you want to blame me and not the woman.
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
I want to live somewhere where I can have a marriage like my father and his father and his father before him had.
But who even cares about sex? I want to have a family and successful children with the support of 2 parents.
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
I want to live somewhere where I can have a marriage like my father and his father and his father before him had.
But who even cares about sex? I want to have a family and successful children with the support of 2 parents.
So...find someone who wants to do that with you and go do that? You can do that pretty much anywhere, really. Strictly speaking you don't even need a closed relationship to do that, let alone a society that will cater to your trust issues.
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I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
I want to live somewhere where I can have a marriage like my father and his father and his father before him had.
But who even cares about sex? I want to have a family and successful children with the support of 2 parents.
So...find someone who wants to do that with you and go do that? You can do that pretty much anywhere, really. Strictly speaking you don't even need a closed relationship to do that, let alone a society that will cater to your trust issues.
I need a closed relationship or I won't have children with someone.
For people who are gonna post in this thread in the future please provide a place other than Utah that fits my criteria or just don't post. I don't need randoms on the internet judging how I view relationships, I need locations.
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Guy. There are no locations there aren't absolute hellholes that fit your really strict condemnations of infidelity. That's what we're trying to tell you. Do YOU even know what you're looking for??? Like I already said, MOST PLACES are already places where people will not actively encourage cheating. That shit is in your head. You can have a faithful relationship/marriage wherever. What do you want, to see people who cheat beaten or their lives ruined???
There ARE allegedly 20 states in the US where adultery is illegal (you can research that yourself)--though it isn't anything more than a misdemeanor in those areas. To be honest, I highly doubt that in those 20 states, that someone is really socially put to the torch when they cheat. If you're asking for a place where cheating DOESN'T happen, like, at all--well, you are shit out of luck, my friend.
That said, if you google "Is [any area] a good place to raise a family" you'll find endless lists of towns and cities that are family-friendly. I assume these might be places to settle down... so, I guess that fits the bill a bit?
I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
I want to live somewhere where I can have a marriage like my father and his father and his father before him had.
But who even cares about sex? I want to have a family and successful children with the support of 2 parents.
If you want an arranged marriage it's probably better to move to a more traditional country like India or China or somewhere in Eastern Europe.
And clearly YOU care about sex! Nobody wants to be cheated on, but mail-order brides just don't fucking exist. You have to love your spouse, or at least respect them. Check out The Stepford Wives, lol. Also, you should know as a big cheater big-person-who-has-caused-others-to-cheat yourself, sex is a big part of any relationship.
You have unrealistic expectations. Cheating happens. Not in a certain are or with certain people, it happens to people who feel neglected or spiteful. It happens even in places where it can be punished with death. But it also doesn't happen a lot too, and that phenomenon isn't attributable to a certain area or people either--it's all down to you and who you meet and how you treat them.
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I can't tell you where to look for your marital elysium, but I can tell you you're better off asking somewhere else than the wretched hive of progressive scum and villainy that Bay12 is.
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This seems to be you wanting a shortcut to what you want. Rather than, you know, asking people to be honest with you and vetting your relationships, you want to find somewhere that culturally punishes people for.....doing the thing you willfully already did in the past?
Rather than extraneously blaming society, or women....try blaming yourself and your own penis? You seem to act like you need a society to check your balls. You need to check your balls, and you need to check the person you want to get involved with.
Prime example: just today a married woman effectively expressed her intentions for a recently divorced friend of mine. She's older but attractive.
And you know what he said? No. "You're married, you're complicated and I don't need that drama or that karma. I think you're hot but it's not just the right time."
That's self control. No societal or cultural pressure needed. He was just a fucking man about it, and self-aware enough to know what trouble is when he sees it, and self-aware enough not to let himself fall in to it.
I don't need randoms on the internet judging how I view relationships
Hypocrisy. Good luck with that.
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Maybe an Orthodox Jewish commune? I dont know if they actually accept converts though
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I heard Malta is full already
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I can't tell you where to look for your marital elysium, but I can tell you you're better off asking somewhere else than the wretched hive of progressive scum and villainy that Bay12 is.
Yea I can tell from the people who blame me for others infidelity are sexist and for some reason don't believe women are capable of making the choice to cheat without telling the person they are cheating with that they are in a relationship.
Maybe an Orthodox Jewish commune? I dont know if they actually accept converts though
With the new laws in Isreal with the DNA testing, I don't think I would fit in even if I did all the work to become Jewish. Good idea to look for more isolated religious groups but I don't want to join a cult either. I was also looking into Amish but they want you to have Dutch blood.
Guy. There are no locations there aren't absolute hellholes that fit your really strict condemnations of infidelity. That's what we're trying to tell you. Do YOU even know what you're looking for??? Like I already said, MOST PLACES are already places where people will not actively encourage cheating. That shit is in your head. You can have a faithful relationship/marriage wherever. What do you want, to see people who cheat beaten or their lives ruined???
There ARE allegedly 20 states in the US where adultery is illegal (you can research that yourself)--though it isn't anything more than a misdemeanor in those areas. To be honest, I highly doubt that in those 20 states, that someone is really socially put to the torch when they cheat. If you're asking for a place where cheating DOESN'T happen, like, at all--well, you are shit out of luck, my friend.
That said, if you google "Is [any area] a good place to raise a family" you'll find endless lists of towns and cities that are family-friendly. I assume these might be places to settle down... so, I guess that fits the bill a bit?
I live in the Western world, cheating is glorified. I've slept with more girls with boyfriend's / husband's than without.
I don't get it. You wanna live somewhere where you couldn't have as much sex?
I want to live somewhere where I can have a marriage like my father and his father and his father before him had.
But who even cares about sex? I want to have a family and successful children with the support of 2 parents.
If you want an arranged marriage it's probably better to move to a more traditional country like India or China or somewhere in Eastern Europe.
And clearly YOU care about sex! Nobody wants to be cheated on, but mail-order brides just don't fucking exist. You have to love your spouse, or at least respect them. Check out The Stepford Wives, lol. Also, you should know as a big cheater big-person-who-has-caused-others-to-cheat yourself, sex is a big part of any relationship.
You have unrealistic expectations. Cheating happens. Not in a certain are or with certain people, it happens to people who feel neglected or spiteful. It happens even in places where it can be punished with death. But it also doesn't happen a lot too, and that phenomenon isn't attributable to a certain area or people either--it's all down to you and who you meet and how you treat them.
Wow this really got you rilied up. Have you ever read cosmopolitan? Every edition has at least 1 article about how great it is to cheat as a woman in 2018.
Yea I would love to see people who cheat in marriage get beat and their lives ruined. People shouldn't make marriage vows if they don't intend to keep them.
Yea girls seem to cheat when their partner is either long distance, not good looking, short, not well endowed. There are also loads of girls who get into relationships for the resources / lifestyle their partner offers.
If you think cheating doesn't happen a lot, I got bad news for you.
This seems to be you wanting a shortcut to what you want. Rather than, you know, asking people to be honest with you and vetting your relationships, you want to find somewhere that culturally punishes people for.....doing the thing you willfully already did in the past?
Rather than extraneously blaming society, or women....try blaming yourself and your own penis? You seem to act like you need a society to check your balls. You need to check your balls, and you need to check the person you want to get involved with.
Prime example: just today a married woman effectively expressed her intentions for a recently divorced friend of mine. She's older but attractive.
And you know what he said? No. "You're married, you're complicated and I don't need that drama or that karma. I think you're hot but it's not just the right time."
That's self control. No societal or cultural pressure needed. He was just a fucking man about it, and self-aware enough to know what trouble is when he sees it, and self-aware enough not to let himself fall in to it.
I don't need randoms on the internet judging how I view relationships
Hypocrisy. Good luck with that.
You are very sexist, women are people too. It takes 2 to tango. I've only ever intentionally helped girls cheat 4 times, the rest I found out about later. As far as I know I've only ever been with 1 married woman, but I'm sure the boyfriend's of the other girls assumed they were gonna get married.
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Right. Me telling you to manage your own BS instead of trying to place the blame elsewhere is sexist. Nice try. Those women ain't here. You are, asking for help. So manage your shit because it's the only thing you have any control over. You said it yourself. It takes two to tango, so really appreciate what that maxim actually means.
I don't hear any sense of culpability in your words. Just a latent fear of being cuck'd as you have already cuck'd others, and trying to find a way to avoid it.
News flash: all genders in all societies cheat. Regardless of social mores. Whereever in the world people be fuckin', after a while, they're going to lust after some strange. The more forbidden and taboo society considers it, the more allure it will have. Picking a place in the world to live isn't going to change that, just tilt the odds. Especially in the US, where most people that preach family values and fidelity are so full of shit it's coming out their eyeballs.
And if you're going to post to the internet looking for advice, and throwing your opinion out there, you're entitled to people judging that opinion.
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Right. Me telling you to manage your own BS instead of trying to place the blame elsewhere is sexist. Nice try. Those women ain't here. You are, asking for help. So manage your shit because it's the only thing you have any control over. You said it yourself. It takes two to tango, so really appreciate what that maxim actually means.
I don't hear any sense of culpability in your words. Just a latent fear of being cuck'd as you have already cuck'd others, and trying to find a way to avoid it.
News flash: all genders in all societies cheat. Regardless of social mores. Whereever in the world people be fuckin', after a while, they're going to lust after some strange. The more forbidden and taboo society considers it, the more allure it will have. Picking a place in the world to live isn't going to change that, just tilt the odds. Especially in the US, where most people that preach family values and fidelity are so full of shit it's coming out their eyeballs.
And if you're going to post to the internet looking for advice, and throwing your opinion out there, you're entitled to people judging that opinion.
But you're not giving any advice.
I would post the stats that show the less pre marital partners a women has, the lower chance of her cheating or divorcing but I don't think you care.
Yea people cheat a lot cause our society pushes and encourages sex on a level not seen since 1920's Germany or Late Roman Empire before the collapse.
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::) I think we've given you about all the advice that we can, up to and including suggesting several places that might be more palatable to your ideals.
Yea I would love to see people who cheat in marriage get beat and their lives ruined. People shouldn't make marriage vows if they don't intend to keep them.
IDK who hurt you my guy, but that's a punishment that doesn't fit the crime.
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But you're not giving any advice.
I have and you've breezed right past it. S'alright. I tried.
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With the new laws in Isreal with the DNA testing, I don't think I would fit in even if I did all the work to become Jewish. Good idea to look for more isolated religious groups but I don't want to join a cult either. I was also looking into Amish but they want you to have Dutch blood.
Then your best chance is to convert to Salafist Islam and go to Saudi Arabia.
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I wonder if any of the posters in this thread actually think they're helping.
Okay dude, would it be accurate to say that, because you have already developed trust issues, being told "plenty of women probably won't cheat!" or even having statistics on the incidence of cheating is useless to you (much less "the problem is you and your insatiable drive for illicit sex that we're totally projecting onto you!"); you instead want evidence — an honest signal, in biological parlance — of a commitment to not cheating, such as living in a culture where the costs are much higher than yours, so that you can convince yourself to trust a person without that voice whispering in your head about how much sex she's probably having when you're not there?
Please simply answer yes or no.
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Somalia is a good option too in the fundamentalist areas. They are far less stringent about proof than in Saudi Arabia, too apparently.
In the rest of Somalia it depends on the local warlord. You might want to ask before settling down.
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Dogpiling on this guy is pretty much Bay12's favorite pastime. :P
Sure, the question is kinda squick-worthy, but I doubt any of your condemnations and analyses are going to reach through the interwebs to fundamentally alter his worldview.
As for the question... I'm sure there are plenty of friend groups and social circles that behave in such a manner, but moving to a physical location with such tendencies would probably make you a foreign outsider, making it rather difficult to enter into such a committed relationship in the first place.
Maybe some sort of rural Christian community, like an Amish sect or some shit? So long as you can rock a beard, at least. I'm assuming you're in the US somewhere but I can't remember if you ever mentioned your location.
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One option no one's yet brought up is starting a cult, which is honestly probably the best way to get around most repressed communities' taboo against publicly discussing extramarital relations and thus publicly shaming adulterers as volubly as DFNewb might like. This also frees him from Utah, since cults can be pretty much anywhere -- although it might be best from a land value perspective to put the compound somewhere remote, like one of the Dakotas.
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Dogpiling on this guy is pretty much Bay12's favorite pastime. :P
Sure, the question is kinda squick-worthy, but I doubt any of your condemnations and analyses are going to reach through the interwebs to fundamentally alter his worldview.
As for the question... I'm sure there are plenty of friend groups and social circles that behave in such a manner, but moving to a physical location with such tendencies would probably make you a foreign outsider, making it rather difficult to enter into such a committed relationship in the first place.
Maybe some sort of rural Christian community, like an Amish sect or some shit? So long as you can rock a beard, at least. I'm assuming you're in the US somewhere but I can't remember if you ever mentioned your location.
I have both EU and Canadian citizenship. Yea I think I'll start going to church or something to hopefully find a nice wife. I can get a job in the states in the blink of an eye if I really felt like it (connections / networking).
The Western world is really degenerating I'm worried about the future.
One option no one's yet brought up is starting a cult, which is honestly probably the best way to get around most repressed communities' taboo against publicly discussing extramarital relations and thus publicly shaming adulterers as volubly as DFNewb might like. This also frees him from Utah, since cults can be pretty much anywhere -- although it might be best from a land value perspective to put the compound somewhere remote, like one of the Dakotas.
One of my dreams is to start a cult but I also want to reach outer space and I feel like it's one or the other in a way.
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One of my dreams is to start a cult but I also want to reach outer space and I feel like it's one or the other in a way.
Hey, space works too. They can't cheat on you if there's literally no one else they can reach alive.
Why not go for the brass ring and combine them? If nothing else, "Hey, want to go start a cult in North Dakota until we move to space so I won't think you're cheating on me" is a heck of a pickup line.
Actually, having looked into this before (for professional reasons) there are almost always some relatively remote islands for sale. If you could "connections/networking" your way into owning one you'd be in good stead, and you could outlast the apparently imminent collapse of Western civilization. Also fishing is fun.
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The Western world is really degenerating I'm worried about the future.
You're part of the problem friend. I was going to ignore this but this particular bit of whining was more than I could resist replying to, so if this is bait, good job. But if not, if the western world is degenerating it's a perfect place for a degenerate such as yourself. It's your actions and the actions of others like you that lead it to its degenerate state. As someone who actually does come from a community like what it seems like you're looking for, a relatively insular place where people know about your indiscretions and will let you know exactly what they think about it, I can tell you it's not what you're looking for. It has its tradeoffs and I don't think you'd like it - especially since you would most likely be getting it just as bad as the girl (if not worse since the people you piss off can actually hit you) if you're actually going around fucking people's wives and this isn't just a ruse. Even if you could find such a place, the people living there would most likely not want you.
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I didn't read recent replies.
I just hooked up with a girl from Chile I couldn't communicate with but I made sure to Google translate asking her if she has a bf. She said no
I'm on vacation in DR FYI.
Just so you all know is not like I Chase after taken girls. They go for me.
Anyways this girl was not taken and is in vacation with friends unlike the American girl who paid for her bf's vacation that I hooked up with 2 nights ago. The guy deserved to get cheated on if he couldn't even pay his own vacation.
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The guy deserved to get cheated on if he couldn't even pay his own vacation.
Ah, so our fundamental moral principles that were once the bedrock of a now-degenerate Western society are only applicable if you're rich enough, which excuses your behavior but we must still ostracize everyone who enables you.
You'd fit in well on Capitol Hill. Ever considered running for Congressional office as a Republican?
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The guy deserved to get cheated on if he couldn't even pay his own vacation.
Ah, so our fundamental moral principles that were once the bedrock of a now-degenerate Western society are only applicable if you're rich enough, which excuses your behavior but we must still ostracize everyone who enables you.
You'd fit in well on Capitol Hill. Ever considered running for Congressional office as a Republican?
Careful Trekkin, our forum political bias is showing. :3
That said, for the OP:
Why do you wish to move to a more culturally conservative locale? I highly doubtful that the rate of jnfidelity will actually be significantly lower there. If you want a partner that is less likely to cheat, I would recommend looking on a personal values level.
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I really didn't want to make a pointless, off-topic comment, but... wowie! OP acts like he's straight from r/braincels, down to "I'm entitled to have sex with women" mentality.
Also, DFNewb, do you really believe that cheating partners should be beaten for infidelity? If that's so, do you believe that men also should be punished for cheating on their wifes? Not that it matters much, though: If you think that someone should be beaten and their life ruined for such a devious crime as infidelity, then you really are an IIHS (Interesting Individual of Human Species)...
I'm not going to debate OP's views, or anything like that. I simply said my personal opinion.
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I really didn't want to make a pointless, off-topic comment, but... wowie! OP acts like he's straight from r/braincels, down to "I'm entitled to have sex with women" mentality.
Also, DFNewb, do you really believe that cheating partners should be beaten for infidelity? If that's so, do you believe that men also should be punished for cheating on their wifes? Not that it matters much, though: If you think that someone should be beaten and their life ruined for such a devious crime as infidelity, then you really are an IIHS (Interesting Individual of Human Species)...
I'm not going to debate OP's views, or anything like that. I simply said my personal opinion.
Yes the gender shouldn't matter, if you made a vow on the day you get married that you will love and take care of another person through sickness and health, then there should be no reason to break that by cheating. You can always divorce before going back on your word.
I don't know what braincels is, but no one is entitled to sex. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. I've never been the one to suggest sex the first time with a new girl, kinda just my style. Like I said before I don't even care about sex too much.
Wow people making a big deal over the guy who can't even pay his own vacation? Here is a tip, if you don't wear the pants then you better keep the other person who does happy.
Yea I guess I'm looking for socially / culturally conservative place to live. A place where people still keep things like the sacredness of marriage, and want to raise healthy kids in a non-sexualized environment. I just want a happy and healthy family, I'm willing to slave away 8 hours or more a day to make this happen. The traditional family unit is the best way to raise successful children in my opinion and the purpose of life is to make sure your genes go as far as possible, again in my opinion.
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In 2008, a female 13-year-old rape victim was stoned to death by 50 men in Somalia under the government's strict adultery laws.
Yeah, I think Islamic Somalia is what you are looking for
Here you have more info as to how to apply to immigration services in Mogadishu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Somalia
This article with the Somalian Constitution is a must read so that you are familiar with Somali nationality law... and all other laws: https://www.webcitation.org/6Bct8nAdJ?url=http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Aug_12/Somalia_Constitution_English_FOR_WEB.pdf
Anyways, enjoy your new nationality!
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How many narcissists does it take to change a lightbulb?
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We live in a society.
DWARFS RISE UP
But seriously, if you're looking for a silver bullet where you'll get a magic relationship where nobody can cheat, nobody can be dishonest, and there's no chance of either party falling out, you aren't going to find it. It does not matter how sacred a culture views it, it can and will still be broken and that holds the chance that it may happen to you. Even those who should technically uphold the values religiously can and do break them. You also seem to be projecting your own dishonesty and lack of trust onto others, whilst simultaneously defending it. Not a good look.
Alternatively, could you try to get a DPRK citizenship and walk us through the difficulty of the process and how totalitarian their relationship laws really are?
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How many narcissists does it take to change a lightbulb?
Many. :3
That said, OP again: I would look for a person that shares your values. Amusingly enough, online dating may be of assistance here, there are sites.
Also, be honest with your partner if you find one. Treat them well. Be a good person. We definitely don't agree with much of the things you are saying and doing. but we can hopefully agree that being a decent person is good.
And please, let your kids be themselves. There is a very good chance they may not agree with your values. Please treat them with kindness and love, and let them express themselves.
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We live in a society.
DWARFS RISE UP
But seriously, if you're looking for a silver bullet where you'll get a magic relationship where nobody can cheat, nobody can be dishonest, and there's no chance of either party falling out, you aren't going to find it. It does not matter how sacred a culture views it, it can and will still be broken and that holds the chance that it may happen to you. Even those who should technically uphold the values religiously can and do break them. You also seem to be projecting your own dishonesty and lack of trust onto others, whilst simultaneously defending it. Not a good look.
Alternatively, could you try to get a DPRK citizenship and walk us through the difficulty of the process and how totalitarian their relationship laws really are?
Adultery is actually legal in the DPKR. Its Somalia or bust
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Okay well, I'm not here to judge you.
But I might consider your taste in women bad.
If women keep cheating on you, those women you chose could be the problem.
I think trying to change society is the wrong way to solve the problem. But there is hope.
Adultery runs down cultural boundaries, and genetics. So you are looking for a woman that isn't likely to cheat on you.
Sadly, the most open and promiscuous women might be easiest, but the first to leave you.
I suggest finding someone from a different country, or of different genetics.
Maybe you should try a dating site. If you are looking for a real relationship, I'm sure you can find someone. Maybe a hot woman tired of the random hook ups, or a less showy woman who just wants love.
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A cynical who believes in the sacrednes of marriage, I pitty your future children, what a pipedream.
btw the country he is looking for is antique rome
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Pakistan is sort of functional and has fornication punishable by whipping, and adultery by stoning. You have to convert to Islam though, and even then immigration to Pakistan is extremely difficult. Unless you are a Commonwealth citizen have $5m lying around to invest in Pakistan's economy you'd have to get an equivalent of a green card marriage, but for most people it's unlikely you'd be able to find a woman willing to do such a thing while bringing you to Pakistan rather than taking her out of it.
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A cynical who believes in the sacrednes of marriage, I pitty your future children, what a pipedream.
Unless it's someone else's marriage, you mean.
I mean he's said he wants a society in which cheaters get beaten up or whatever, but he fails to note that he would be on the receiving end of this several times.
Even if he does manage to find a woman to start a family with, I'd be quite willing to put money on him being the cause of it breaking down.
It's funny what stuff you can find in the Life Advice forum.
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A cynical who believes in the sacrednes of marriage, I pitty your future children, what a pipedream.
btw the country he is looking for is antique rome
I've said it many times, I will say one more time. Don't make marriage vows that say you will stay with the person till death do you apart, if you don't mean it.
But for some reason you and others on here think it's ok to lie.
A cynical who believes in the sacrednes of marriage, I pitty your future children, what a pipedream.
Unless it's someone else's marriage, you mean.
I mean he's said he wants a society in which cheaters get beaten up or whatever, but he fails to note that he would be on the receiving end of this several times.
Even if he does manage to find a woman to start a family with, I'd be quite willing to put money on him being the cause of it breaking down.
It's funny what stuff you can find in the Life Advice forum.
I'm not the one breaking a promise.
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You are facilitating that, however.
If I say "I've stabbed someone, could you hide this knife?" and you do it, that's accessory to murder and you go down too.
Edit: you've got some interesting cognitive dissonance going on here, indulging in that same decadent behaviour you decrying as the moral decline of the civilised world.
Unless you've slept with millions upon millions of women, your sample size is far too small to be representative. You're looking in the wrong places if the women you meet are only interested in a hook-up.
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Oh certainly, Dfnewb seems to be blissfully unaware of how would said "traditional societies" regard him
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: Allah's Messenger as saying: Receive teaching from me, receive teaching from me. Allah has ordained a way for those women. When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female, they should receive one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.
— Sahih Muslim, 17:4191
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Oh certainly, Dfnewb seems to be blissfully unaware of how would said "traditional societies" regard him
'Ubada b. as-Samit reported: Allah's Messenger as saying: Receive teaching from me, receive teaching from me. Allah has ordained a way for those women. When an unmarried male commits adultery with an unmarried female, they should receive one hundred lashes and banishment for one year. And in case of married male committing adultery with a married female, they shall receive one hundred lashes and be stoned to death.
— Sahih Muslim, 17:4191
Why do you keep posting in my thread?
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Why, because you want to know about places where adultery is punished in a big deal fashion. I'm educating you about which places are those and how you would fare in them, just as I educated you about the consequences of your drug abuse. It's a duty of sorts.
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Why does OP want to go to a country where they'd get ostracised and punished for their behaviour? Masochism or smt?
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He doesn't understand the idiom "two to tango".
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Why does OP want to go to a country where they'd get ostracised and punished for their behaviour? Masochism or smt?
If I was married, I wouldn't be sleeping with committed people.
Why are you a condescending loser not giving life advice on the life advice sub forum and instead mock me?
Why, because you want to know about places where adultery is punished in a big deal fashion. I'm educating you about which places are those and how you would fare in them, just as I educated you about the consequences of your drug abuse. It's a duty of sorts.
In the OP I clearly said English speaking yet all you can talk about is non-English speaking places. You are clearly triggered.
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Why does OP want to go to a country where they'd get ostracised and punished for their behaviour? Masochism or smt?
If I was married, I wouldn't be sleeping with committed people.
Why are you a condescending loser not giving life advice on the life advice sub forum and instead mock me?
Why, because you want to know about places where adultery is punished in a big deal fashion. I'm educating you about which places are those and how you would fare in them, just as I educated you about the consequences of your drug abuse. It's a duty of sorts.
In the OP I clearly said English speaking yet all you can talk about is non-English speaking places. You are clearly triggered.
I hope you are not serious. Every day we stray further from God's light.
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Considering you are asking for help, what do you hope to gain by insulting the folks trying to figure you out?
You have proposed a goal which seems at odds with your current lifestyle, you can’t blame people for wanting to dig deeper.
Edit: oh hey OP made a similar thread last year. Looks like their opinion of the lady people hasn’t changed. One wonders why they thought B12s view on that would change in the interim.
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Why does OP want to go to a country where they'd get ostracised and punished for their behaviour? Masochism or smt?
If I was married, I wouldn't be sleeping with committed people.
Why are you a condescending loser not giving life advice on the life advice sub forum and instead mock me?
Why, because you want to know about places where adultery is punished in a big deal fashion. I'm educating you about which places are those and how you would fare in them, just as I educated you about the consequences of your drug abuse. It's a duty of sorts.
In the OP I clearly said English speaking yet all you can talk about is non-English speaking places. You are clearly triggered.
You said preferably English speaking but that's regrettably not an option. You're going to have to learn either Arabic, Urdu, or Hebrew. I'm sorry but that's how it rolls. But dont worry, I'm sure you wont need too many lamguage classes
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You keep doing it.
If I was married, I wouldn't be sleeping with
Allmost there, now stick the landing.
committed people
aaw... :-[
Why are you a condescending loser not giving life advice on the life advice sub forum and instead mock me?
Nice touch, because it's obvious to everybody here, but you, that you are contributing to the erosion of the very morals you are mourning. Moral principles that you seem to fail to understand to be an illusion, come on if nobody is cheating on you because they get lapidated or whipped, does that really count? You should have more pride than that, but it's apparent that you're looking for an assymetrical safeguard.
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You keep doing it.
If I was married, I wouldn't be sleeping with
Allmost there, now stick the landing.
committed people
aaw... :-[
Why are you a condescending loser not giving life advice on the life advice sub forum and instead mock me?
Nice touch, because it's obvious to everybody here, but you, that you are contributing to the erosion of the very morals you are mourning. Moral principles that you seem to fail to understand to be an illusion, come on if nobody is cheating on you because they get lapidated or whipped, does that really count? You should have more pride than that, but it's apparent that you're looking for an assymetrical safeguard.
So you are saying it's wrong to sleep around if you are single?
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So you are saying it's wrong to sleep around if you are single?
Every society that fits your criteria would say that, actually.
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I'm saying that with morals as regulatory device, you can only breed dishonesty. You want to get a working set of ethics to be able to find somebody who has the same, and in order for that person to even want to be with you.
But things like "if you don't satisfy your partner you deserve x" are just iredeemable if it wasn't for your age; and boy are you in for a bad surprise when you move in together with someone. If you need a guideline: don't do to others what you don't want them to do to you; better yet, treat other like you want to be treated.
The thing is you could get me to agree that is a sad state of affair when young girls brag about their high number of sexual encounters, just like the men, as if it was equally hard to be pull off... or even an achievement in the first place. But all that western society wee is just alt right alt right talking points designed to make young men like yourself resentful.
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I'm educating you
It depresses me that I believe you really believe that.
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Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it? Why does she keep touching me?
See how live is?
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No, you shouldn't go for it. That would be wrong.
Anyway, just to forestall this thread from having any further reason to exist and continue to annoy me personally, which it does so much, look, OP, you can find the kind of social norms you're looking for all over America as long as you stay away from certain subcultures (read: metastatic SoCal). You may lock the thread and begin applying for your visa now. No I will not put you up, but staying away from metastatic SoCal also has the benefit that rent is much lower.
Oh, and PM me if you want advice overcoming your trust issues, because you sure as hell aren't going to get that from anyone else.
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Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it?
Wait, is the girl or the boyfriend touching you?
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Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it?
Wait, is the girl or the boyfriend touching you?
There is only one grammatically valid way to interpret that sentence. The boyfriend cannot possibly be the subject of that clause. Please try harder to be a troll next time.
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inb4 "h-hah sorry guys I was just sooo drunk TROLED XD". Exaggerated drunk text tends to prelude such things.
Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it?
Wait, is the girl or the boyfriend touching you?
There is only one grammatically valid way to interpret that sentence. The boyfriend cannot possibly be the subject of that clause. Please try harder to be a troll next time.
I can't believe he got with her boyfriend while crying so hard about the horrors of infidelity. Just as a genuine word of warning in case the OP is serious: it is very easy to view everything as being terribly dishonest if you constantly engage in and immerse yourself in such activity whilst pushing off the responsibility to others.
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I can't believe he got with her boyfriend while crying so hard about the horrors of infidelity.
Certainly not without asking after societies where homosexuality is frowned upon, at any rate.
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OP should go for the threesome, maybe it would change his mindset.
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That would only increase the numbers of cheaters by one though
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That would only increase the numbers of cheaters by one though
If both partners are willing and involved in the act its not quite cheating though, more like a nonstandard open relationship
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That would only increase the numbers of cheaters by one though
If both partners are willing and involved in the act its not quite cheating though, more like a nonstandard open relationship
Exactly, it stops the cheating situation and ensures fun for all.
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No because the third person is in a relationship
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No because the third person is in a relationship
What?
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No because the third person is in a relationship
But it's a relationship with the second person.
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Ah, It has become abundantly clear that we should leave this thread to rot.
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I'll make the Toad-Signal.
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No because the third person is in a relationship
What?
If he has threesomes with his girl and the boys she wants to cheat on him with (as it has already been established all women are cheaters in this scenario) so as to prevent said cheating, the guy will turn out to be in a relationship with someone else (as it has been established that everyone he sleeps with is a cheater) making three cheaters of the threesomites instead of the usual two.
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No because the third person is in a relationship
What?
If he has threesomes with his girl and the boys she wants to cheat on him with (as it has already been established all women are cheaters in this scenario) so as to prevent said cheating, the guy will turn out to be in a relationship with someone else (as it has been established that everyone he sleeps with is a cheater) making three cheaters of the threesomites instead of the usual two.
Congrats, this post made my brain hurt more than the original thread's.
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Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it? Why does she keep touching me?
See how live is?
Maybe you need to quit hanging around people of low moral caliber like you say you want, even though your actions directly contradict that.
Whatever. This is starting to come off as narcissistic bragging.
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I don't think I'm the only one who is assuming none of the sexes happened
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It would be news that Chad plays DF, but we live in a strange world.
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Boys I'm drunk and in Lsd and a girl with a bf keeps touching me, should u go for it? Why does she keep touching me?
See how live is?
Maybe you need to quit hanging around people of low moral caliber like you say you want, even though your actions directly contradict that.
Whatever. This is starting to come off as narcissistic bragging.
It's because this thread is a self-indulgent what if scenario, if not outright trolling. It's a vision of what a deeply inexperienced and insecure person (or someone emulating them for laughs) may view people with active sex lives to be. Just look at his prior posts on the topic, this is a huge jump from "guys how do I ask a girl out, guys how do I know if a girl likes me?" and the occasional ">tfw no GF".
"You may have heard of people who don't have sex, well nuh uh, not me! I have at least seven adulteries a day, and I do ALL THE DRUGS. But that's just me, Chad Notavirgin.". Long story short is to stop feeding the ego of OP, as in either case that's what he's here for.
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It better be, the prospect of some genuinly confused lad leaping from one bad decision to the next, reading trough comments of him in the third person while coming down from acid isn't exactly uplifting... I'd hate to strengthen cognitive dissonance by affirming some perceived hostility, that would be due to the inherent properties of the misconception. Not exactly "pedagogically valuable" in case of trust issues and drug abuse. On the other hand there is the good old "sometimes you have to land on your butt".