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Dwarf Fortress => DF Dwarf Mode Discussion => Topic started by: 0leg on February 06, 2021, 12:09:44 pm

Title: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: 0leg on February 06, 2021, 12:09:44 pm

Hello, I'm thinking of turning off the magma sea for fps reasons. But since adamantine is found near magma seas, will this make it impossible for me to find adamantine?

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: Maximum Spin on February 06, 2021, 01:24:32 pm

I believe it will, yes.

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: Immortal-D on February 06, 2021, 05:22:36 pm

Although candy can spawn in the caverns as a disconnected vein, I don't know if having the magma sea as an origin is required.

Edit: Also, there are many many other ways to gain fps.  Off the top of my head; smaller world size & history gen, occasional use of the 'clean all' script, smaller embark size and pop cap.

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: mightymushroom on February 06, 2021, 05:57:52 pm

My recollection (from running different setups a few versions back) is that adamantine veins require "Bottom Layer" as the advanced parameters call it (because of the relationship to spoilers). Bottom Layer, in turn, forces magma sea and even says as much in the parameters.

I had never heard of disconnected deposits in the caverns, but I seriously doubt they spawn if no regular veins are spawning to begin with.

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: Mohreb el Yasim on February 14, 2021, 06:17:52 pm

Yes it will.
You could mod it back (maybe) as an extremely rare gem if you want to...

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: 0leg on July 26, 2021, 12:13:15 pm

Hmm alright thanks guys

Title: Re: Is magma needed for adamantine?
Post by: Moeteru on July 26, 2021, 02:39:49 pm

Is the magma sea really a significant cause of lag?
I wouldn't have thought it would be a problem unless you started moving large quantities of magma around.
Are you having problems with magma-dwelling creatures breeding or something?