Bay 12 Games Forum
Finally... => Life Advice => Topic started by: RoseHeart on February 12, 2021, 12:52:24 am
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What is a game I've hosted that didn't finish, that you'd like to see play out?
I guess I should take this opportunity to say why it's so difficult for me. The biggest factors are that I am autistic, and where I lie on the spectrum makes it very difficult to remain professional. I have short attention span. Infact I read slow, not because I take longer to process a word, but because I lose my train of thought mid paragraph. I forget why I open a new tab. Or why I am even holding something sometimes. There's been games I took a small break from, and forgot I was even hosting it, until weeks later.
I also don't often host well established game formats, like Arms Race, or Mafia, or games with a clear path to completion. It's usually an experiment, and I have not always clearly communicated that. These days I add "[Lab]" to my game to signify it is something new.
I wasn't diagnosed until last year, and for about 5 years, I could not hold a job for any length of time, and I didn't know why. I was homeless. The only creative outlet I had access to was hosting forum games on public library computers. Often urgent matters relating to basic survival made it impossible to continue at times. Fortunately the happy ending already came. I was diagnosed, and I am living safely.
Sorry for oversharing like that, but I am constantly reminded by a handful of people that they proudly proclaim me to worst GM, the only true failure on Bay 12. I can't be more than I am, but I can be more honest about why I falter, and the risk that it will happen. It is a goal to reach the credits of my games, like I did with Tribe, hell or high water, I fucking did it.
I'm about to complete ArenaCraft tonight, and am considering what people want. Maybe it won't be my next game, but I'd love to hear what you liked...
MOVED:
This topic has been moved from forum games and roleplaying so I can field more non-forum games related questions, comments, and discussion. Though I'll still take suggestions for rehosting unfinished forum games I hosted in the past.
(Also, I did just finish ArenaCraft, another complete game in the can! :D)
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So are you asking what kind of game we want you to run or are you asking for thoughts on arena craft?
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Sorry for oversharing like that, but I am constantly reminded by a handful of people that they proudly proclaim me to worst GM, the only true failure on Bay 12.
Hey, don't feel bad, people fail to GM all the time. I know I do. I think I GMed a total of one game to completion (Shattered Lands).
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Most forum games don't finish. What makes me stand out, is that I abandon so many. Not just players losing interest.
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Nah, you should run one of my abandoned games instead. Power&Pulse or Vessel would be really fun~
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Here K_Z,
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=176691.msg8154809#msg8154809
downGRADE (SG)
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175684.msg8093213#msg8093213
Eye of Evil
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175552.msg8087511#msg8087511
Hero Saga
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=175369.msg8077668#msg8077668
Iron Defenders
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=174809.msg8038852#msg8038852
Blobs
That's a list of some of my most recent unfinished games. But there were many more. I am asking if anyone missed/still thinks about any for consideration for a new run of one. Or back when I was GameBoyBlue.
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Anyway, it's not the only reason I have a reputation. It's because I tried to charge for a game. It was years ago, I was homeless and I was reading a lot of spiritual stuff about following your passion. I just always had to figure out my own way to do things (I didn't know why at the time, things were harder or easier for me than others and I didn't know why) so I made an offer to host a forum game, and I'd charge if they wanted to play again. I never did host the free one, not enough players.
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Charging for a forum game is a strange concept to me.
Also I remember most of those games, even though some of them died before they even started.
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Yeah, it's much simpler to just open a Patreon and emulate popular webcomics. It made sense to me back then because I was in a place where 50 cents (I think that's what I was asking) would have been a big deal. And others in my circumstances were being thrown $20 bills for holding a cardboard sign. I felt I was doing something creative and producing something that...I was able to do. Not saying it was a brilliant strategy or anything. People want to pay for forum games about as much as they do for pornography.
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Nah, you should run one of my abandoned games instead. Power&Pulse or Vessel would be really fun~
Links?
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I was homeless
If you were homeless, you probably should have had higher priorities than hosting a forum game.
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Power & Pulse (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=167656.0) (PvP focused game pitting interdimensional mech pilots against mages)
Power & Pulse 2 (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=170274.0) (Retry of the earlier abandoned P&P, got a little further before getting bogged down)
Vessel (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=173350.0) (Immortal angels possessing expendable human bodies on a mission)
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Hey, those are all RTDs
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yes what of it
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If you were homeless, you probably should have had higher priorities than hosting a forum game.
I certainly did, I was working. Most recently I was a gametester for Microsoft. But other than that, a library was the safest place to spend the rest of my time.
I couldn't hold down enough hours to pay for a home, so I lived out of a vehicle (eventually parking at a church that had a homeless parking program).
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This topic has been moved from forum games and roleplaying so I can field more non-forum games related questions, comments, and discussion. Though I'll still take suggestions for rehosting unfinished forum games I hosted in the past.
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I mean, the sooner you can support yourself the better. This means living somewhere that makes you comfortable, having a way to get to work (not really necessary in most jobs right now, but will still be relevant in the future), and having a reliable income. As someone with shitty criminal parents who didn't support me I had to seek the help of others, don't be ashamed of doing this if you're in trouble, but also don't shirk responsibility when it inevitably falls on your head.
I don't expect most non-mafia forum games to actually finish. Heck, every non-mafia forum game I ran here never finished. This was because they were overly ambitious and vague in scope. On the other hand, every mafia game I've ever run has finished. I think scale and scope is important for creating a game. The more open-ended it is, the more challenging it will be to run.
Personally I don't agree with most Youtube/Twitch/Patreon incomes unless the quality is professional and consistent. If you want that as a secondary income that's fine, but I would not rely on the fickleness of internet donation money.
Why was your autism diagnosis so late? I've always seen diagnoses like that happen during public school. Your weren't diagnosed and sheltered until literally living on the streets?
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I mean, the sooner you can support yourself the better. This means living somewhere that makes you comfortable, having a way to get to work (not really necessary in most jobs right now, but will still be relevant in the future), and having a reliable income. As someone with shitty criminal parents who didn't support me I had to seek the help of others, don't be ashamed of doing this if you're in trouble, but also don't shirk responsibility when it inevitably falls on your head.
I don't expect most non-mafia forum games to actually finish. Heck, every non-mafia forum game I ran here never finished. This was because they were overly ambitious and vague in scope. On the other hand, every mafia game I've ever run has finished. I think scale and scope is important for creating a game. The more open-ended it is, the more challenging it will be to run.
Personally I don't agree with most Youtube/Twitch/Patreon incomes unless the quality is professional and consistent. If you want that as a secondary income that's fine, but I would not rely on the fickleness of internet donation money.
Why was your autism diagnosis so late? I've always seen diagnoses like that happen during public school. Your weren't diagnosed and sheltered until literally living on the streets?
^ I want to reiterate I am not homeless anymore, not for more than a year.
My Patreon is an Art Blog for family to follow, and tip jar for anyone that feels like it. I'm maneuvering to host forum games that are more and more like webcomics, but with players driving the story.
My autism was diagnosed late for a number of reasons. I was above average performance in gradeschool. So the thinking I was not challenged but gifted. Pride, on my part later in life. Wasn't worth it to not accept help.
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I think that's enough. Thank you for the kind words and comments. If you really want to see an old game comeback, my PM box is open. Goodnight.
Edit: Mental Illness can greatly impair your abilities, and from what I could tell it is one of the leading causes of homelessness. You may be able to get diagnosed For Free at the same place you apply for foodstamps, which could make you applicable to assistance with housing, employment, and government assistance. Be safe.