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Title: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 20, 2021, 03:48:40 pm
Time to revive my favorite strategy game on this forum: Era of Diesel! (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144361.0)

Make up a Nation and race other Players to conquer the continent in 1900s atmosphere of technological progress and savagery of near-modern warfare with fancy new toys like: aeroplanes, tanks, and bombers! All this without bothering with naval combat and transports, diplomacy and treaties and multitude of other fancy options.

Spoiler: 1.Rules and Stuff (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: 2.Nation Traits (click to show/hide)


Nationlist:
7.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 20, 2021, 03:56:32 pm
Sheet coming shortly, but the map link is broken.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 20, 2021, 04:04:00 pm
No wonder, I forgot to add the link, lol.

It's fixed now.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: a1s on May 20, 2021, 04:22:29 pm
I'll play.

Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 20, 2021, 04:27:00 pm
Oh blast, you took a province I wanted.  Time to adjust...

Spoiler: Union of Tradesmen (click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 20, 2021, 04:31:06 pm
[Defunct, see later post]

Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 20, 2021, 04:41:46 pm
Haspen:  Thank you for posting this game.  I came by just to refresh this board thinking "Boy, I wish there was another TBS game starting up that I could join..."


TricMagic:  I don't see why we would need to fight.  You have plenty of room to expand around to the south and west.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 20, 2021, 05:24:02 pm
So long as you don't take up the province separating us. May we prosper in peace.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Kashyyk on May 20, 2021, 05:29:26 pm
Spoiler: Republicá del Sol (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 21, 2021, 07:43:17 pm
Three game spots left, three obvious map spots left.  Will someone make it spicy by splitting the difference?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Taricus on May 22, 2021, 01:42:48 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 22, 2021, 09:44:34 am
Fuck it, I'm in. I'm going to have to play defensively though, or I'll be eaten by everyone else. I don't expect to win, I'm nowhere near vicious enough, but if I survive to the end with all my original provinces under my control, I'll count it as a win.

Also, I made a map to see where everyone's nations were and what room was left available. I decided to clean it a bit and post it here, in case it's any help to anyone. Let me know if I got anything wrong.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have borders with... almost everyone, so I'm very much open to diplomacy right now. If any of my core provinces, or province #34, get taken from me, I will not cease fighting until I get it/them back. Please don't kill me immediately.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 09:56:58 am
Something seems off, you can't be adjacent to another capital, so why is blue at the mountain passes? That's adjacent to my capital.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: a1s on May 22, 2021, 10:00:24 am
Only capitals can't be adjacent to each other.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 10:08:56 am
... I'm going to bow out, given I'll die as soon as they decide to send a few armies against me. Which they have.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 22, 2021, 10:37:46 am
Perhaps you two could negotiate modifications to your territories? Or perhaps you could move tour nation to a more defensible location?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 22, 2021, 11:17:26 am
... I'm going to bow out, given I'll die as soon as they decide to send a few armies against me. Which they have.

The "small" trait is a risky game to play. 


...actually, your setup doesn't work at all.  You have "modernized" which specifically excludes "small" size nations (because it doesn't actually give them any benefit.  Perhaps you should give up one of your other traits to become normal sized and pick up 24 and 28?  Or drop from "modernized" to "heavily industrialized" and have two trait points to play with?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 11:24:50 am

Edits made, also moved to the farleft. Come at me!
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 22, 2021, 11:58:01 am
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 22, 2021, 12:00:14 pm
Tric, you might want to edit out your first one for clarity.



Also, that kind of limits where Player #7 can be.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 12:29:54 pm
Tric, you might want to edit out your first one for clarity.



Also, that kind of limits where Player #7 can be.

It doesn't actually. Just be "Small", a bite-sized morsel among giants. (IE, going to lose. There isn't enough space to play the small game.)

The current rules mean that only Small can be chosen, since Normal needs them all adjacent to the capital. In this game, size matters far more than long-term planning.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 22, 2021, 01:01:39 pm
Hopefully the rules are bendable to put a "normal" in that hole.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: a1s on May 22, 2021, 01:30:10 pm
The current rules mean that only Small can be chosen, since Normal needs them all adjacent to the capital.
That is surely a typo (perhaps meant for small nations?) Haspen?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 01:37:22 pm
The current rules mean that only Small can be chosen, since Normal needs them all adjacent to the capital.
That is surely a typo (perhaps meant for small nations?) Haspen?
Based on small my old area was also in violation, as they need to be ALL adjacent to one another. So doubt it's a typo.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 22, 2021, 01:45:03 pm
Let's get clarity, then.

Haspen: Given the state of the map (there aren't any other contiguous sections of open map) is 24-28 a legal Normal size nation?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 22, 2021, 02:07:20 pm
Nope, there would always be 2 provinces not adjacent to Capital.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 02:19:10 pm
Stick Haspen in there We could just start now?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 22, 2021, 02:36:20 pm
Haspen can you build multiple of the same development in the same province, such as two military bases, or three academies, if there's enough room in said Province?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 22, 2021, 03:15:18 pm
Yeah, only spot that's left isn't great.  Unless a 54 and 55 appeared that both touched 26...  (or you convinced a lot of people to move around)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 22, 2021, 03:19:13 pm
Unless a 54 and 55 appeared that both touched 26...
@Haspen
(https://d1dd4ethwnlwo2.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/PuppyDogEyes1.jpg)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 22, 2021, 03:41:40 pm
Alternatively, delete that chunk of map, and create a true brawling ground for 6 players.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 22, 2021, 05:03:05 pm
Haspen can you build multiple of the same development in the same province, such as two military bases, or three academies, if there's enough room in said Province?

Nope. I gotta write that in.

We starting tomorrow.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2021, 04:28:45 am
Game thread is up and so is Turn 0! (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=178556.0)

Get to army deployment!
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Imic on May 23, 2021, 07:08:57 am
@Haspen My capital is meant to be in #35, unless this was a deliberate change?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2021, 07:44:41 am
Will be fixed in Turn 1 map, thanks for noticing ;v
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 23, 2021, 08:05:35 am
Tric's secret project engines are listed as 45/80 instead of 45/50.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: TricMagic on May 23, 2021, 08:11:52 am

Edits made, also moved to the farleft. Come at me!

Beyond which, my traits changed, so why would I still have a secret project? The Revivalist Republic of Reval has a Traditional Military Tradition. And names starting with R.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Toaster on May 23, 2021, 02:07:30 pm
/me gets popcorn


Looks like the West is going to get pretty wild pretty fast.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 7 Players needed?
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2021, 02:20:19 pm
Ye, all lil errors fixed. I think.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on May 23, 2021, 02:27:53 pm
/me gets popcorn


Looks like the West is going to get pretty wild pretty fast.
I would also get popcorn, but I'm a bit too scared shitless at the moment.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on May 23, 2021, 03:22:27 pm
If you build a Military HQ, do both armies have to start the turn in the province or can you move one in and use it same turn?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2021, 03:28:00 pm
Placed armies cannot be moved in the same turn.

Oh wait, you mean for constructin HQ? The order stuff is resolved is: bombings -> placings -> movings -> buildings -> the rest
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on May 23, 2021, 03:33:16 pm
Yeah, I meant "I start with two armies in adjacent provinces and move one into the other so I meet the two army requirement for building an HQ" which means by that order, yes that is okay.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on May 23, 2021, 04:00:43 pm
I would also get popcorn, but I'm a bit too scared shitless at the moment.
Currently I'm just wary with the one important border liable to become contentious. If that settles though, I'm all good.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 23, 2021, 04:39:16 pm
Pink is looking sus, but red apparently only has 3 armies, not 4. So good chances to wreck them if they are still in the area when my turn comes around.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on May 23, 2021, 04:41:07 pm
Except shouldn't Sordland have 4 armies there, given they started as a large nation?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on May 23, 2021, 04:43:51 pm
Except shouldn't Sordland have 4 armies there, given they started as a large nation?
Every single sheet of data with Sordland on it records them as having four armies, even the data sheet on the turn one post, where they only have three on the map.
Edit: It says that they have four armies to deploy on the turn 0 deployment data as well.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 23, 2021, 05:45:48 pm
Well, the only question left is if they want to end this now or later. All or nothing, cause you know I'm coming after you with all the force I can muster after this.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 23, 2021, 11:56:38 pm
Also fixed.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on May 24, 2021, 07:08:21 am
Can I build 2 (different) buildings in the same territory on the same turn?

And so we don't have to come back to this later: can one build in conquered territory (running, of course, the risk of wasting their build/turn if it does not in fact get conquered?)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 24, 2021, 10:58:44 am
As long as you don't exceed the PI/Turn number, sure.

No conditionals whatsoever.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 24, 2021, 11:57:45 am
I was wondering why the Democracies had so little PI/Turn and turns out I forgot to add the Industrialist party bonus :P

EDIT: Not that it matters right now, but Radar didn't had its extra requirement listed, is fixed.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 24, 2021, 03:20:06 pm
Toaster freshly placed Armies cannot be moved in the same turn.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on May 24, 2021, 03:44:31 pm
Agh, sorry, let me reread the order for the 5th time...


That should be all legal.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 24, 2021, 03:45:12 pm
Toaster freshly placed Armies cannot be moved in the same turn.
Can they be spent in the same turn? And/Or does this just apply to all the armies we placed pre-game?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 24, 2021, 04:12:21 pm
Toaster freshly placed Armies cannot be moved in the same turn.
Can they be spent in the same turn? And/Or does this just apply to all the armies we placed pre-game?

No.

No.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 25, 2021, 03:26:48 pm
Kashyyk no building in provinces you don't own at start of turn.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on May 25, 2021, 03:28:41 pm
You know I asked about this earlier and you said it was fine as long as it wasn't conditional.  :-\
But at least now we know.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on May 25, 2021, 03:30:06 pm
Yeah, it's guaranteed I'll get it this turn, and if be happy to lose the PI attempt if it were on the whim of the dice. I can edit if you'd prefer though.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 25, 2021, 03:31:09 pm
Quote
And so we don't have to come back to this later: can one build in conquered territory (running, of course, the risk of wasting their build/turn if it does not in fact get conquered?)

If
>province gets conquered?
Is
>allowed building of stuff?

No.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on May 25, 2021, 04:00:39 pm
I guess I can't be too mad.  At least I lost nothing but some international prestige.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 25, 2021, 04:50:46 pm
Welp, looks like Pink is going to die first.
Haspen, doesn't it take a full turn for the crossing to occur? Hence they would arrive during pink's next turn.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 25, 2021, 11:45:34 pm
It needs they need a full move, not partial one after they travel railroads first. So all troops from pink will have to stop on the other side of the sea before they step over.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 26, 2021, 07:52:45 am
... That is mean and I don't like it. I thought I would have more time to counter them. Ugh. Perhaps I should have gone with my instincts and just not played.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on May 26, 2021, 11:29:55 am
We're all trying to fit our heads into the rules.  A few turns in and this'll all be smooth as silk.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on May 29, 2021, 07:49:52 am
Several corrections: I should have gotten +3 on the combat rolls, because of my For the Motherland modifier (this changes nothing to the outcome, of course). And I should have 8 RP points due to Militaristic by Default modifier.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on May 29, 2021, 10:27:42 am
You also have Typhus. Thank you for the HQ by the way, I'll make good use of it.

Note that I won't be invading you, I promise that. Have to deal with pink first.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on May 29, 2021, 11:25:12 am
Several corrections: I should have gotten +3 on the combat rolls, because of my For the Motherland modifier (this changes nothing to the outcome, of course). And I should have 8 RP points due to Militaristic by Default modifier.

Fixed and fixed.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 03, 2021, 04:30:59 am
Taricus you cannot move armies deployed in the same turn ;v
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on June 06, 2021, 03:16:36 am
Haspen, I should still have an army in 31; I have military traditions thus that HQ only consumed one army.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 06, 2021, 03:26:43 am
Fixed.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on June 07, 2021, 07:36:32 am
Quote
Typhus epidemic in Hibernia

... Fuck.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 07, 2021, 07:10:21 pm
Keep that away from my borders, please  :D



Slightly tweaked my turn when I realized an illegal move.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on June 12, 2021, 05:08:02 am
You've missed the icon for my academy in 46.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on June 13, 2021, 01:17:43 pm
It says it's my phase again, shouldn't it be Tricmagic's phase?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 17, 2021, 07:41:40 am
I believe there is an error in the map, given the shore has 2 armies in position instead of one.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 17, 2021, 07:47:01 am
I believe there is an error in the map, given the shore has 2 armies in position instead of one.

I don't see any errors. What do you mean?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 17, 2021, 09:31:53 am
There is no way for two armies to move there while a new army is deployed to the nearby area.

Wait no, rails...

Pink, why do you insist on attacking me anyway. There is no way I'm moving onto the mainland when I'd just get crushed afterward.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 18, 2021, 04:32:14 pm
Can armies deployed be used to construct an HQ immediately? (Time for my Military Tradition to prove why it's a bad idea to mess with me like this if so.)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 18, 2021, 04:38:30 pm
If you deploy an Army, that means there's HQ in there already, silly.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 18, 2021, 04:39:23 pm
And if you mean use the army you just deployed to move and build HQ, then...

Taricus you cannot move armies deployed in the same turn ;v
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 18, 2021, 05:16:04 pm
If you deploy an Army, that means there's HQ in there already, silly.

Capital doesn't have an HQ though.

Though reading the rules, I guess it counts as one, so no double dipping on it sadly. (Plus I'm already at four.)


Is it possible to transverse through player zones without capturing them? Just a thought I had, since attacking from green's territory would be a lot easier. They would get mad though, so I won't do so without permission.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 18, 2021, 05:31:13 pm
No.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on June 20, 2021, 05:20:36 am
I have Explosive Shells, does that tech work vs Neutrals?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 20, 2021, 05:35:35 am
Dang, I was looking at wrong one. Lemme fix that.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on June 20, 2021, 05:44:30 am
In the code, it says I have only 9 provinces though I actually have 10.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 24, 2021, 06:05:40 am
Hey, Kasshyk :P
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 09:49:11 am
What in the world just happened haspen? I thought I'd only be taking a malus, where in the world did their +1 come from?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 09:54:56 am
Sordland is a Dictatorship, with that tasty +1 defense rolls.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 09:57:49 am
... WHY IS CROSSING SO FREAKING HARD.

And why is my luck so bad, if I won that first engagement I'd have a bonus at least. Instead a total defeat without a single victory.

The fact del Sol is forcing me to keep defenses up on the other side is also annoying. I demilitarize, you militarize. Please go somewhere else so I can deal with Red?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 10:02:02 am
With a 4 point delta on combat bonuses, you're only winning if you roll a six and the enemy rolls a 1, aka 1 in 36 aka don't even bother.  Get you some advanced engineering, heavy artillery, and/or explosive shells and tanks.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 27, 2021, 10:04:13 am
Even just Explosive Shells would be massive help already.

a1s knew what he was doing holing up on the island as a Dictatorship.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 10:05:44 am
You guys have that, I have Radioactivity and armies.

Had I known about that bonus before I wouldn't have done that. But they looked so tempting.
The fact sea travel happens on the turn it's done also messed me up.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 10:08:34 am
Oh yeah, if you had landed on his island you'd have completely conquered him.  The math was just too against you, though.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 27, 2021, 10:42:07 am
You guys have that, I have Radioactivity and armies.

Nuclear-based superpowers are not available in this game.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 10:48:49 am
You guys have that, I have Radioactivity and armies.

Nuclear-based superpowers are not available in this game.
Yeah, just +5RP for research.

What is with Atomic Theory only providing an extra +1 though, despite it's 200 cost? (Not like there is an atom bomb option, so seems a bit useless.)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 11:14:15 am
That's +1 per academy, so potentially very high if you've eaten a rival or two.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 11:19:22 am
K, much better then.

Still expensive..
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 11:36:14 am
With 10 academies, it pays for itself in 20 turns.

With 20, ten turns.  The earlier you get it, the better it is.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on June 27, 2021, 11:50:12 am
Hey, I'd love to deploy 5 armies, but I think I can only deploy 3, right?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 27, 2021, 12:07:48 pm
I think your army number is wrong; it says you have five, but you have three on the map.  Regardless, you only have three deploy points, and there's a late tech required to deploy a second per HQ.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 12:34:36 pm
Toaster, red is open if you want to take some land.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on June 27, 2021, 01:44:45 pm
What if you throw two armies into the meat grinder before the end of the turn?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 01:52:49 pm
What if you throw two armies into the meat grinder before the end of the turn?
I was the one who demilitarized. Then you built up on the border with an HQ. And your lands are already a meatgrinder.

Also, I just did against red. I have no interest in fighting you for the foreseeable future. If you'd let some off that area I am perfectly willing to move mine to where they are actually needed.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 27, 2021, 03:31:46 pm
Case in point, Sordland managing a landing. If you attack me after this, I am literally going to give everything to red so they can kill you.

Red, take notes on that.

del Sol, I am perfectly willing to offer myself up on a silver platter to Sordland just to spite your invading ways.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on June 28, 2021, 01:25:11 pm
Has, you forgot about military traditions again, I should still have an army in 40 :V
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 28, 2021, 01:57:45 pm
It keeps happening bro V:
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 28, 2021, 02:00:28 pm
Also, why am I the only one at war anyway...
You're the only one who attacks other players. I just wanted to have an HQ from which to attack 9. (and now my precious HQ is destroyed, which you will of course pay for in blood)
You already have one on the other side. Not to mention that would still put you on my border. Stay on your island till someone else attacks you.

I'm honestly surprised the tradesmen didn't. Not like you have any force projection across the ocean. [It would also sharply cut your army size down so you'd be stuck there.]

I am not in the best position given everyone else is in peace mode.

Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on June 28, 2021, 02:13:34 pm
Becomes the moment Toaster attacks a1s, Taricus can attack Toaster.

Then Imic attacks Taricus, or Toaster, which promptly leaves Imic vulnerable to Kashyyk stab.

No matter how you mix-and-match that, it's potential disaster dominoes nobody wants to trip.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 28, 2021, 03:05:14 pm
I do, given I'm already in the middle of things.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on June 29, 2021, 04:28:25 pm
The Hiberian Commonwealth is advised that due to talks with Sordland, the previous treaty between the Republic and Commonwealth is set to break.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F8I2HqVUXZwc%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
This is fine.

I can see no possible subtext or implications which mean I am in any immediate, impending danger whatsoever.

I'm fortifying all my borders now.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on June 29, 2021, 04:38:38 pm
The Hiberian Commonwealth is advised that due to talks with Sordland, the previous treaty between the Republic and Commonwealth is set to break.
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F8I2HqVUXZwc%2Fmaxresdefault.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
This is fine.

I can see no possible subtext or implications which mean I am in any immediate, impending danger whatsoever.

I'm fortifying all my borders now.
:D
Probably a good idea. Though it will take a few turns for Sordland to take control of Reval. Still not invading you though.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on June 30, 2021, 02:36:13 pm
/me sips tea and watches
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 02, 2021, 11:47:06 am
The Union diplomatic corps issues a formal apology to Sordland; there was a mixup in army orders that sent troops into the northeastern province of the Union that was intended to head toward the mouth of the mountain pass.  The officer responsible has been sacked.


Attention A1s:  That army in 18 was intended for 16; I got it wrong in the turn edit and just now noticed.  My bad!
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on July 03, 2021, 03:24:48 am
I built an Academy in 42 last turn, but my RP income didn't go up. I should be at 78 progress.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 03, 2021, 09:57:50 am
Le fix'd.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 05, 2021, 01:25:07 pm
Kashyyk you can't fetch army from 45 to 42 before Railroads are there ;v
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on July 05, 2021, 01:29:51 pm
Kashyyk you can't fetch army from 45 to 42 before Railroads are there ;v

I mistyped. Meant to go to 43, where my HQ will be
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 07, 2021, 10:22:16 pm
Does the capital itself count as a province improvement?  (With regards to the four/province limit)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 07, 2021, 11:40:41 pm
Nope. It's just an icon on the map to help find it.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 13, 2021, 05:16:54 pm
I'm sorry Imic, but with Sol about to take a bite out of you, there's no good choices here.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on July 13, 2021, 07:09:26 pm
Hey Haspen, are we able to trade techs at all?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 13, 2021, 11:48:50 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 14, 2021, 02:12:43 am
Vlosavi  should be getting an extra 4RP per turn due to being militaristic.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 14, 2021, 07:04:57 am
I keep forgetting the damn bonus v;
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 16, 2021, 04:33:26 am
Huh, I could have sworn there was a rule that if you outnumber the enemy by 3 armies you get a bonus. I guess I was confused with the old EoD.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 16, 2021, 07:10:27 am
There was such a rule in some old EoDs, you are correct. Not this one tho.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on July 16, 2021, 08:10:57 am
Is it meant to be my turn already?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 16, 2021, 08:12:35 am
Yes you got whole freebie turn so that best democracy on the map can have a fighting chance :P

/jk
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 16, 2021, 06:03:37 pm
Yes you got whole freebie turn so that best democracy on the map can have a fighting chance :P

/jk

I'm right here  :'(


Boy I worried over that turn a lot.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 17, 2021, 09:40:56 pm
I'll be away for several days, but I'll try to keep up.  B12 and my phone aren't great friends but I'll do what I can.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 18, 2021, 01:14:52 am
Noted.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 22, 2021, 09:05:04 pm
I'm back!


...I didn't miss much.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 23, 2021, 04:20:55 am
I wonder if Taricus quit. Someone should PM him.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Taricus on July 23, 2021, 04:35:50 am
Yeah, I'm quitting.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on July 23, 2021, 06:51:14 am
But why? Things have barely started  :-[
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 23, 2021, 06:58:16 am
I would suggest looking for a replacement (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=124700) but the country is not in good shape.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 07:31:48 am
Taricus always quits when he loses one province because his master defense plans ain't working :P

24h for a replacement to step up, otherwise Vlosavi is no more and we movin' on.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on July 23, 2021, 08:08:17 am
Taricus always quits when he loses one province because his master defense plans ain't working :P

24h for a replacement to step up, otherwise Vlosavi is no more and we movin' on.
Revalian rebels have taken over control of the country! (I'll step up.)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 08:12:14 am
You've already played this game.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 23, 2021, 08:14:27 am
I, for one, support TricMagic's return as Vlosavi. (not that this is any kind of democracy)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on July 23, 2021, 08:15:28 am
Maybe we could change the name of the thread to attract new blood like moths to a flame that’s actually a volcano?
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on July 23, 2021, 08:36:16 am
You've already played this game.

I don't see any issue with this; it's not like there's secret knowledge in this game.

(As long as Tric ignores what happened to Reval and plays like he's been Vlosavi this whole time)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 1 replacement needed! Join today!
Post by: TricMagic on July 23, 2021, 08:41:17 am
Revalvian Rebels, so yeah. We are Vlosavi, always have been.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 1 replacement needed! Join today!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 09:03:16 am
Revalvian Rebels, so yeah. We are Vlosavi, always have been.

Actually hell, let's make it an event-esque thing. Call up a new name and color for Vlosavi if you want.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 1 replacement needed! Join today!
Post by: TricMagic on July 23, 2021, 10:09:13 am
Leadership change! Restalin Renaz has taken over the Vlosavi Principality in a coup. The previous leader has been executed in a grand ceremony, and Dictator Renaz promises that they will make great strides in overtaking the invading forces and pushing deep into their country. The orange star of the Revived Principality flies high.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread! 1 replacement needed! Join today!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 10:11:09 am
Nice, now go to IC Thread and post orders.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 10:24:10 am
Your deployment orders are invalid. 38 would require a HQ to be able to deploy two armies there (Capital + HQ) and 31 would require Mass Production first to deploy 2 Armies per HQ.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: TricMagic on July 23, 2021, 10:26:21 am
Ah.. That correct?

Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on July 23, 2021, 10:32:20 am
The orders from 5:30:44 are correct, now processing turn.

EDIT: You have no Military HQ in #30.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on July 29, 2021, 09:14:16 am
The airfield in Province #16 caused lots of casaulties in Sordland forces before finally the province was captured.
The attack on the other side of the mountains, however, proved to a disaster!
Quote
Armies to deploy: 5
It's only 4 armies according to the spreadsheet.
Also, I must protest your use of 'Disaster' here. Sordlanders are... while not cowards per se, excellent users of tactical withdrawal. :P
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Imic on July 29, 2021, 06:03:06 pm
If I attack anywhere, I'm fucked, if I stay here and do nothing, I'm fucked. All I can do at this point is put my hope and faith into three more turns of mercy, which is uh unlikely.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Toaster on August 18, 2021, 10:21:32 pm
I see that there's an alliance against me...
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on August 19, 2021, 02:38:32 am
Well you are the strongest player right now. It's a compliment, if you think about it.  :P
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Kashyyk on August 26, 2021, 10:11:14 am
My railway not got built in #40
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on August 26, 2021, 10:27:51 am
Is now.
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: a1s on September 16, 2021, 05:21:28 am
Do events happen  before or after research? Because I have only made 28 progress on my research (implying before) but Toaster had his bonus against typhus (implying after.)
Title: Re: Era of Diesel:RE OOC Thread!
Post by: Haspen on September 16, 2021, 07:23:08 am
Although the viewing order is Research -> Events -> Typhus, gameplay-wise its Events -> Research -> Typhus.

I keep forgetting to arrange the quotes correctly :P