Oh no, don't tell him to contact Toady, he's done it before about perfectly inane crap and postured like he was a voice of the people. If toady ever gives up developing DF I'm blaming it solely on roseheart's shoulders for pegging him with needless messages.
He doesn't understand that this niche forum is no more than a sidenote for toady, who I hear is working on something big nowadays. Or that he's not a big player on the forum. Or that the forum doesn't need any big players.
What he's doing, again, is looking somewhere where there isn't an issue, saying "yes I can make an issue out of this", doing so, then jumping in with "solutions". Honestly I'd talk some more shit if I didn't think there was an actual problem roseheart needs to work out with himself. One that preferably isn't solved in a thread on bay12
Fun Fact: Neonivek is 4th on the list of most posts on this forum. Above him at 3rd is the similarly banished GWG, whose ban now predates updated ban listThere are pretty obvious reasons for that. It's a numbers game, in some ways. The more you post, the more the responsibility.
Fun Fact: Neonivek is 4th on the list of most posts on this forum. Above him at 3rd is the similarly banished GWG, whose ban now predates updated ban list
Actually, I dunno if x2yzh9 actually got banned.
Again, I feel I have narrowly evaded the banhammer over the years; I have been suckered into 10+ page long tit-for-tat flame exchanges over my bad habit of having (and sharing) hot takes. (I prefer to state the hot take, and the reasoning behindv it to explain it, as I dont take to a position in a vacuum, but tend to end up arguing against the phantasms others invent, instead of accepting my reasoning at face value. This is especially true when somebody new joins, and doesnt realize just how much i live up to my username. ;) )
GoblinCookie was kind of like Neonivek, but stubborn instead of incomprehensible, and mainly focused on derailing suggestions threads. Utterly convinced he was right on a subject while focusing solely on one factor, ignoring all others that were brought up.I had shitfights with GC regularly and even though I still think my takes were correct, my arguing methods meant I wasn't much better than him.
One of the derails involved him asserting that ducks would eventually wipe out all plant life and their own species forever due to overbreeding, while ignoring that they actually need to be able to reach every single plant, and the effects of malnutrition on reproductive capability before that point.
I probably would have gotten banned too if I didn't have the good sense to step back after the Toad posted a warning in a thread. Decided to let others engage instead until the Toad Hammer came down.
Toady doesn't even have an arbitrary "three or other number strike rule" for mutings that escalates to a ban by default.
GoblinCookie was kind of like Neonivek, but stubborn instead of incomprehensible, and mainly focused on derailing suggestions threads. Utterly convinced he was right on a subject while focusing solely on one factor, ignoring all others that were brought up.
One of the derails involved him asserting that ducks would eventually wipe out all plant life and their own species forever due to overbreeding, while ignoring that they actually need to be able to reach every single plant, and the effects of malnutrition on reproductive capability before that point.
I probably would have gotten banned too if I didn't have the good sense to step back after the Toad posted a warning in a thread. Decided to let others engage instead until the Toad Hammer came down.
Toady doesn't even have an arbitrary "three or other number strike rule" for mutings that escalates to a ban by default.
I agree with this quite a lot. Most of the these policies were in some way inspired by the "three strikes" laws of California which were implemented as an experiment during the "tough on crime" era. Somehow they became incredibly influential, to the point where "3 strikes" is now the default way of thinking, even though California's 3 strikes have now been denounced as being overly punishing while doing little to deter crime.
I'm happy that Toady is able to see through this *expletive* and not perpetuate the madness.
The Rule of three is... one of those 'laws' about the Planes, about everything tending to happen in threes... or everything's composed of three parts, or there's always three choices, and so on and so forth.Toady doesn't even have an arbitrary "three or other number strike rule" for mutings that escalates to a ban by default.
I agree with this quite a lot. Most of the these policies were in some way inspired by the "three strikes" laws of California which were implemented as an experiment during the "tough on crime" era. Somehow they became incredibly influential, to the point where "3 strikes" is now the default way of thinking, even though California's 3 strikes have now been denounced as being overly punishing while doing little to deter crime.
I'm happy that Toady is able to see through this *expletive* and not perpetuate the madness.
I am fairly certain thst the "three chances/strikes is the reasonable amount of chances" concept is far older than those laws -- in fact I'd hazard a lot on a guess thst they're based on that pee-existing notion, not the other way around. You guys on your side of the trwnch even got it in baseball even :P
snipIf there's any justice in the world [1], one day you'll end up banned [2] for overusing parentheses and footnotes, mister (or miss (or gender-neutral alternative)).
noooo don't come after my boy starver like this for a harmless communicative idiosyncrasy
noooo don't come after my boy starver like this for a harmless communicative idiosyncrasy
I feel it's common among computer programmers, my ex also did that in his personal emails :V
If Starver's long, footnoted posts bother you, simply don't read them.
Unless, that is, you're Alex.(edit: I read them because it keeps my mind sharp in addition to hearing what Starver has to say.)Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I appreciate the footnotes. They're like little post lootboxes!
I appreciate the footnotes. They're like little post lootboxes!
You'd love Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel by Susanna Clarke. There are pages where half the page is taken up by footnotes, as well as footnotes thst go on for pages
Necro910Actually, he was banned for joking about pedophilia with a user. The quote was something like "The little girl next door was winking at me wtf", and then "You're either a very lucky young boy or a very lucky pedophile. I wish you luck either way.". If it were just MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAing, he surely would have been muted first.
Cosmic Banditos is a truly wonderful book, much recommended. Some of the footnotes even travel through time!I appreciate the footnotes. They're like little post lootboxes!
You'd love Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrel by Susanna Clarke. There are pages where half the page is taken up by footnotes, as well as footnotes thst go on for pages
I didn’t expect this thread to still be going...That's because this is no longer a thread about leveraging absurd hyperboles when discussing moderation.
Starver once sent me a PM that hit the character limit and was cut off mid-footnote.Did I? Was it?
Actually, he was banned for joking about pedophilia with a user. The quote was something like "The little girl next door was winking at me wtf", and then "You're either a very lucky young boy or a very lucky pedophile. I wish you luck either way.". If it were just MAGMAAAAAAAAAAAAing, he surely would have been muted first.I didn't know this deepest lore
To be perfectly honest, so long as the folks weren’t banned for something horrible or stupid, like condoning genocide, and didn’t cause any further issues, Toady would probably be alright with some of them coming back.It's surprising how advocating for IRL genocide has happened before on bay12 whenever Eastern Europe or the Balkans was brought up. It wasn't common but it was surprising to have it nonetheless; I miss some of our slavic posters but they needed to amplify their chill states
I miss some of our slavic posters but they needed to amplify their chill states