Solution: Everyone has a gun. 1 Mafia, they have a 1-shot vest.The moment someone didn't die when shot they'd be outed as mafia and just get shot again.
Solution:Solution: Everyone has a gun. 1 Mafia, they have a 1-shot vest.The moment someone didn't die when shot they'd be outed as mafia and just get shot again.
If you can tolerate me spending most of my free time weightlifting and exercising or engaging in fulfilling hobbies I could join this game.
That's not true. Sometimes there's no weightlifting.If you can tolerate me spending most of my free time weightlifting and exercising or engaging in fulfilling hobbies I could join this game.
We do in every other game you have played... :P
Sadly there always is for me. And the other stuff. ;)That's not true. Sometimes there's no weightlifting.If you can tolerate me spending most of my free time weightlifting and exercising or engaging in fulfilling hobbies I could join this game.
We do in every other game you have played... :P
I'm town once again, so that's nice. How about the rest of you?I'm loyal and royal.
So, who is going to shoot me first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgwD0LhueoHaven't watched all of those, but I'm guessing you got the assault rifle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eqjdT_r6k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq8WIf-2RKo&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsag2j4tHh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cINTXGUjBqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChXantDzGC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbqTINMgPCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftmXPTSkRcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQP9b8EeG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INZqUZhQIRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-1eO6391c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjCEz9y0sVA&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m7Zx5_vUrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzOFky9nWw&t=15s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFB7-bvVKs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFJ13zoMcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HHxuCBwWUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTpgSGXqZVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkiDguYtGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9M3de5mISY
I've got a proposal. We all shoot people who don't even bother to show up. Simple and clean solution. No lurking.You should be Marked over that comment. Unfortunately, that is not in my arsenal.
It is in mine though. You the sniper?I've got a proposal. We all shoot people who don't even bother to show up. Simple and clean solution. No lurking.You should be Marked over that comment. Unfortunately, that is not in my arsenal.
Nah, just another Long Rifle-man here.It is in mine though. You the sniper?I've got a proposal. We all shoot people who don't even bother to show up. Simple and clean solution. No lurking.You should be Marked over that comment. Unfortunately, that is not in my arsenal.
Do I even need to mention how loyal I am?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUgwD0LhueoHaven't watched all of those, but I'm guessing you got the assault rifle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eqjdT_r6k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq8WIf-2RKo&t=8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsag2j4tHh8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cINTXGUjBqc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChXantDzGC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbqTINMgPCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftmXPTSkRcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQP9b8EeG8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INZqUZhQIRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-1eO6391c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjCEz9y0sVA&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m7Zx5_vUrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duzOFky9nWw&t=15s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFB7-bvVKs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAFJ13zoMcw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HHxuCBwWUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTpgSGXqZVM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkiDguYtGw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9M3de5mISY
I've got a proposal. We all shoot people who don't even bother to show up. Simple and clean solution. No lurking.I mean, I plan to shoot ToonyMan if he doesn't show up, and since I don't belong to that group, I'm for that plan.
Toony's Not in this Game >:(I've got a proposal. We all shoot people who don't even bother to show up. Simple and clean solution. No lurking.I mean, I plan to shoot ToonyMan if he doesn't show up, and since I don't belong to that group, I'm for that plan.
Haven't watched all of those, but I'm guessing you got the assault rifle?
He could have the Machinegun (I apparently watched a few more than you).
Personally, I'm shooting one of Max or you, and I assume y'all are doing the same.
@Tric: Do NOT Mark Knightwing. Thanks.What's the point of shooting Knightwing if you don't want to kill him? That's pretty indecisive.
It IS.@Tric: Do NOT Mark Knightwing. Thanks.What's the point of shooting Knightwing if you don't want to kill him? That's pretty indecisive.
Talk like that will get you killed Jack. The entire point of marking an absent player is for them to die. Not be left half dead, lurking, and able to fire another shot. You'd let them live 3 phases, and fire 3 shots?It IS.@Tric: Do NOT Mark Knightwing. Thanks.What's the point of shooting Knightwing if you don't want to kill him? That's pretty indecisive.
I'm proposing to almost-half kill Knightwing.
Unfortunately have to put this as town knightwing..
Marks Max.
a1s, who do you suspect most?
I just got up and I already need to go back to bedI assume you've already submitted your shots then?
Delightful
Nope
Haven’t submitted nothing
Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.Hey, I like Knightwing! I just want them to post is all! I even cancelled my action, and promised NOT to shoot Knightwing today!
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.That sounds like Traitor talk. Got something to say, or are you going to draw?
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
I'm not gonna shoot you, Tric. You'll have to find someone else.Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.That sounds like Traitor talk. Got something to say, or are you going to draw?
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
Locked and loaded. Double time, fire when ready! Get a load of this. (https://youtu.be/EgX1o-5O66o)I'm not gonna shoot you, Tric. You'll have to find someone else.Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.That sounds like Traitor talk. Got something to say, or are you going to draw?
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
I have questions:
It says we may use primary or secondary abilities. So it's possible to not shoot anyone?
How exactly does that function vis-a-vis a machine gun? Can it shoot 0 or 2 people only, or up to 2 people?
My action's locked in. Sorry, [TARGET].I feel like that is the most Townie thing you've said all game.
I assume it's probably gonna be my only one this game since Tric and Jack have both decided to play dumb, but it's okay.
And despite that, he doesn't even say who they are shooting.That would be the Town Max thing to do, hence why it's the Most Townie thing Max has said
Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.For comparison, this is the Scummiest thing Max has said all game.
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
Wait, did you actually think me being helpful means I'm scum? I thought that was a joke.Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.For comparison, this is the Scummiest thing Max has said all game.
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
Does it... does it not?Wait, did you actually think me being helpful means I'm scum? I thought that was a joke.Tric, are you seriously going to mark me? I promise you that's a waste of time. I would recommend marking one of Jim or a1s in your situation.For comparison, this is the Scummiest thing Max has said all game.
Knightwing, we only have a day per thing in this one, so you really do have to keep showing up and not just wander off, sorry.
Also, literally only Jack has it in for you and, let's be honest, it's Jack, he's probably not being all that clever.
I can absolutely stop being helpful if you want.
(Primary) Sniper Rifle: You aim at your target and do 0 damage if you did not aim in the previous phase. If you aimed at your target in the previous phase, you shoot your target for 3 damage. A Marked target takes an additional 3 damage.
(Secondary) Semi-Auto Pistol: You shoot your target for 1 damage.
(Passive) Marksman: You do 1 additional damage with Rifle weapons, and your starting Primary weapon is a Rifle.
I'm considering shooting a1sYou will regret not killing me, Jack.
I shot Max.That was me. I can't say I didn't think about shooting Max, but he wasn't my top choice.
And somebody shot meeeeeeeeeeeeee
I... shot no one. I thought there would be more time. :'(I want to not believe you, but I kinda believe you.
but someone shot me with a pistol. I'm pretty sure I know who it was too.I'm considering shooting a1sYou will regret not killing me, Jack.
It's safe to assume Jack did shoot Max. Unmarked them, then unloaded with my double barrel shotgun. And Jack's rifle deals 4 damage on marked targetsI shot Max.That was me. I can't say I didn't think about shooting Max, but he wasn't my top choice.
And somebody shot meeeeeeeeeeeeee
I am surprised that no one shot me, though. I honestly thought someone would.
Anyway, it had to be more than you shooting Max.
I don't know why, but I thought our damage would be public knowledge. That's what I get for not paying attention.I... shot no one. I thought there would be more time. :'(I want to not believe you, but I kinda believe you.
but someone shot me with a pistol. I'm pretty sure I know who it was too.I'm considering shooting a1sYou will regret not killing me, Jack.
Ok, you've convinced me. Jack, a man of his word (vis-a-vis Max anyway), shot me with his semi-auto secondary. Jim is cleared.Dibs
My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?
My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?I think you need to remove Knightwing from that list. Poor kids doesn't realize you don't mean it.
I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
Scum.I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
Reloads gun.Scum.I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
I... shot no one. I thought there would be more time. :'(
Nobody shot me. I am very pleasantly surprised.
I did a no action because I thought it ended at 12
MB
I shot Max.That was me. I can't say I didn't think about shooting Max, but he wasn't my top choice.
And somebody shot meeeeeeeeeeeeee
I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
Scum.I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
You can't win the game without killing people so it's not really a surprise that people end up dead.Dead loyalists come from traitorous fire and mistakes.
Justify you sitting on your high horse and tell me your magic solution to the game that kills all the traitors with no dead loyalists.
It's not the first question they avoided either.what question did I avoid?
Well, I would guess, on the first night you kill no one. Then you protect whoever Traitors targeted (medkits are a thing), while trying to figure out who they are.
Well, I would guess, on the first night you kill no one. Then you protect whoever Traitors targeted (medkits are a thing), while trying to figure out who they are.... Max is dead. It's a bit obvious that that strat doesn't work, yeah?It's not the first question they avoided either.what question did I avoid?
My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?
Well, I would guess, on the first night you kill no one. Then you protect whoever Traitors targeted (medkits are a thing), while trying to figure out who they are.
Not an answer.
There are two players you need to kill to win. Who are they?
There are two players you need to kill to win. Who are they?If you follow my logic to it's conclusion, it's Tric and Jack. They have exposed themselves as the most likely Traitors.
My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?For the sake of argument, if I had to choose from Jim, web, wing and a1s I would choose Jim and web. Only they're not, are they? because it's you two.
In case it's not abundantly obvious, I am asking you to name two players BY NAME that will win you the game when they are dead.I don't know, and neither do you. But I've said my piece and I've made my peace with being dead next turn.
@Jim: Should've been 2 damage unless you got marked.Well, Jack knows what to do now, hopefully. Will need help given it's a traitor here, but that in itself would be proof. 8 damage total and they're still alive, can just pop them next time. Or use the semi-auto to finish it anyway.
@Tric: Hmm, nah, I think you've got this handled.
Personally, I don't see how it's not a1s, but I think that means it's either Jim or Knightwing, and either way, that's a won gamestate.
Jack's already shot them, so they're at 8 HP.I am not paying attention.
Jack's already shot them, so they're at 8 HP.6hp.
There are two players you need to kill to win. Who are they?If you follow my logic to it's conclusion, it's Tric and Jack. They have exposed themselves as the most likely Traitors.My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?For the sake of argument, if I had to choose from Jim, web, wing and a1s I would choose Jim and web. Only they're not, are they? because it's you two.
If you Mark a1s, Jack and I both deal 8, so anyone extra can get to 9.
a1s probably doesn't have armor, since he confirmed taking 1 damage, but it still might be a good idea to go all in on damage, just in case.
Jack's already shot them, so they're at 8 HP.6hp.
a1s is townThere are two players you need to kill to win. Who are they?If you follow my logic to it's conclusion, it's Tric and Jack. They have exposed themselves as the most likely Traitors.My main issue is that there are two traitors among us. Jim, web, knightwing, and you a1s. So, knowing yourself to be town, which of the two are traitors?For the sake of argument, if I had to choose from Jim, web, wing and a1s I would choose Jim and web. Only they're not, are they? because it's you two.
Mafiaso wouldn't be wasting time trying to argue with Jim/Web.
We also have NO evidence that Web actually shot Jim. It's the fatal flaw in this setup.
You can't win the game without killing people so it's not really a surprise that people end up dead.Dead loyalists come from traitorous fire and mistakes.
Justify you sitting on your high horse and tell me your magic solution to the game that kills all the traitors with no dead loyalists.
I kind of skimmed the thread (I am not good at this game,) so I didn't notice they agreed to murder poor max in plain sight (I was wondering how they got so coordinated without a dedicated discord, but actually Tric called marking max and Jack announced he would shoot him) My final concern was that they only pumped max 7DMG full of lead (3 from the shotgun and 4 from the rifle), which kills townies, but not tractors. Jack specifically avoided overkill by shooting me. What is the explanation for that? (no sarcasm- I'm bad at the game and don't know)
We also have NO evidence that Web actually shot Jim. It's the fatal flaw in this setup.
Mafiaso wouldn't be wasting time trying to argue with Jim/Web.
Wait a minute...are you REALLY that dumb?
Wait a minute...are you REALLY that dumb?I take offense at how you phrased that, but... yeah, probably.
@a1s: Read this link, tell me why you're stupid, and maybe I won't shoot you. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180591.msg8446721#msg8446721)Alright, let me try to puzzle this out:
I kind of feel like every time I type a post I dig myself in deeper. :-\Wait a minute...are you REALLY that dumb?I take offense at how you phrased that, but... yeah, probably.@a1s: Read this link, tell me why you're stupid, and maybe I won't shoot you. (http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=180591.msg8446721#msg8446721)Alright, let me try to puzzle this out:
You might think that killing max proved he was town (and it did, in a way) but even if he remained standing that would have proven nothing, since armor exists.
You might think you can't use primary and secondary on the same person, but it doesn't say you can't.
You might think that doing 8 damage is the same as doing 7, but in that case why even shoot me at all?
You might think armor prevents 2 damage, so if I had armor I would shrug off the damage. But that's not how armor works.
You might think that a med-kit can tell you if the target has 9HPMax, but AFAIK it can't. it either heals you, or it doesn't.
What am I missing?
We also have NO evidence that Web actually shot Jim. It's the fatal flaw in this setup.Here's the thing:
(Primary) Double Barrel Shotgun: You shoot your target for 3 damage.
(Secondary) Signal Flare: Your target is Marked for this phase. A Marked target does not benefit from Cover.
(Passive) Vengeful: You may use either a Primary or a Secondary ability the phase after your death.
Scum.I love how you guys teamed up to kill a townie, but somehow you're not on the list of suspects.What are people's thoughts on this post?
I mean, it's kinda stupid, you teaming up like that, but is it just stupid enough to work?
We also have NO evidence that Web actually shot Jim. It's the fatal flaw in this setup.Here's the thing:
Even if I didn't shoot Jim, that means I either did nothing, I shot Max, or I'm a Sniper, and I'm damage prepping, unless you think I'm out there healing people before they got injured. The only reason that matters is if you think Jim and I are a team. Do you think there is sufficient evidence for this claim?
The real issue is that a1s can't be proven to even be a Machine Gunner and could be holding a Cannon or something else. Not shooting at Night is super scummy because it indicates that you either shot someone that died and didn't claim it, or you are holding a cannon and are saving shots.
Ah yes, lead a charge while deflecting any suspicion through unofficially making yourself town leader.
I don’t trust it, Tric is never this coherent
TricMagic
I suspect they shot EuchreJack and TricMagic with their machinegun which if they are town could probably be categorized as some of the worst town decision making in recent memory.Actually I shot Tric and webadict. Because they shot me. That's not cool. Even with my armor vest I'm now at 1 HP. which I would also be at if I was a traitor. I ask again "WTF kind of play it is to deal 7 DMG to a suspect, if that only and specifically kills them if they are loyalist?" Since Tric is now dead, I would like Jack to explain it. Without calling me dumb, please.
As for me, I have only shot you once with the Semi-Auto Pistol for one damage at end of Phase 1. I suspected you were scum at that time, and wanted to determine to what degree you would obtain damage. Read the abilities if you wonder why I would do that.I suspect they shot EuchreJack and TricMagic with their machinegun which if they are town could probably be categorized as some of the worst town decision making in recent memory.Actually I shot Tric and webadict. Because they shot me. That's not cool. Even with my armor vest I'm now at 1 HP. which I would also be at if I was a traitor. I ask again "WTF kind of play it is to deal 7 DMG to a suspect, if that only and specifically kills them if they are loyalist?" Since Tric is now dead, I would like Jack to explain it. Without calling me dumb, please.
With this much conversation we will surely find the traitors and shoot them.Someone is reading my mind...
As for me, I have only shot you once with the Semi-Auto Pistol for one damage at end of Phase 1. I suspected you were scum at that time, and wanted to determine to what degree you would obtain damage. Read the abilities if you wonder why I would do that.This proves is that I don't have "evasive". Doesn't say anything about my alignment though.
Why are we shooting Web?
Jim, did you shoot me last Night?
Did you do 3 damage?Jim, did you shoot me last Night?
Yes.
No.Then you either did 4 damage, and you're cleared, or you did 2 damage, and you're not.
If my action resolved you would not have taken three damage from me.
I shot you with my Flechette Cannon.That's what I thought. I'm the one that healed you last Night. That doesn't cover me for my primary, but I did shoot a1s. It's a1s and one of Euchre or Knightwing.
Sorry, busy day, and... busy. This was a terrible week to play, and I won't be here for the same amount of time Tomorrow.
a1s, you're saying you shot Tric and I, but that's a preemptive defense for an action that hadn't happened, so your defense doesn't make any sense.
Jim, did you shoot me last Night?
Knightwing, I don't believe you. There's no way that you did no action twice.
You healed me, you say.Lol, wait, did I actually save your life?! Jim owes me a lifedebt, lol!
Then I took five damage last night.
Nobody's claimed shooting me. :|
I don't think it's possible for you to not be a shooter here.Sorry, busy day, and... busy. This was a terrible week to play, and I won't be here for the same amount of time Tomorrow.
a1s, you're saying you shot Tric and I, but that's a preemptive defense for an action that hadn't happened, so your defense doesn't make any sense.
Jim, did you shoot me last Night?
Knightwing, I don't believe you. There's no way that you did no action twice.
Lol
I don’t know what to tell you
It’s true, if it makes you feel better, my gun is trash so it wouldn’t have helped much anyway
@Knightwing: Then the only possibility here is that Jim was shot twice by a1s and Jack. I wasn't shot by a1s.
I took 4. I have Evasive, so I assumed that my total damage reduced by 1, but Fallacy has corrected me and said that it's EACH instance of damage. So, if a1s had dealt damage, I should've taken 5, but I only took 4.@Knightwing: Then the only possibility here is that Jim was shot twice by a1s and Jack. I wasn't shot by a1s.
Hmmmmmmm.
If a traitor has combat stims then they could use the flamethrower on TricMagic while shooting their primary.
How much damage did you take total? Flechette Cannon is supposed to bypass cover so it should be at least four.
Do I believe Knightwing64 is perpetually incompetent and is functionally indistinguishable from an vacant slot and wouldn't submit an action two phases in a row?Damn, dude, that's harsh. I like to think that Knightwing is better than that.
Unfortunately, yes.
Do I believe Knightwing64 is perpetually incompetent and is functionally indistinguishable from an vacant slot and wouldn't submit an action two phases in a row?Damn, dude, that's harsh. I like to think that Knightwing is better than that.
Unfortunately, yes.
Yeah man, I kinda get it. I was at a work function all day, so I honestly don't blame you if you shoot me, but I think that as long as Knightwing shoots Jack, we're in the clear here.Do I believe Knightwing64 is perpetually incompetent and is functionally indistinguishable from an vacant slot and wouldn't submit an action two phases in a row?Damn, dude, that's harsh. I like to think that Knightwing is better than that.
Unfortunately, yes.
It is, but I am frustrated with how little Knightwing64 has shown up this game.
Man, I really want to believe you, webadict, since the things you're saying right now have a certain clarity to them.
Maybe it is a1s. a1s spends Phase 2 complaining about EuchreJack and TricMagicHis reaction on Day 2 was to go after people for killing Max when confronted for being scummy. It's a newbtell.
and then shoots TricMagic and EuchreJack
and then survives with 1 hp after taking more than 7 hp in damage.
If you could say who TricMagic should shoot with his vengeful shot who would it be?Either a1s just to be sure or Jack. It's entirely possible that a1s is lying about how much damage they actually took or that I was roleblocked.
Do I believe Knightwing64 is perpetually incompetent and is functionally indistinguishable from an vacant slot and wouldn't submit an action two phases in a row?
Unfortunately, yes.
I shot Web, who is also still alive.Uh, I gained Health, so you should consider better ammo or better aim.
I shot Wing and Jack for 2DMG each. Wing because I think he is a traitor, and Jack because I have to shoot 2 people.Why would you shoot Knightwing and why would you not shoot me?
I didn't get shot at (or I got revived?) and am still at 1HP.
Hip hop hurrayReally?
If I was a traitor I would’ve shot you by now
That almost sounds like a Tric question...I shot Wing and Jack for 2DMG each. Wing because I think he is a traitor, and Jack because I have to shoot 2 people.Why would you shoot Knightwing and why would you not shoot me?
I didn't get shot at (or I got revived?) and am still at 1HP.
I shot Web, who is also still alive.Uh, I gained Health, so you should consider better ammo or better aim.
webadict, how much health did you gain?I gained 1 HP
I plead the fifth on who I shot.
Don’t ask me, please. You won’t like the answer
Ignorance is bliss
I took no (apparent) damage.I think Jack shot KW, along with a1s, and a1s Machine Gunned KW and I.
Something doesn't add up.
webadict healed Knightwing64
webadict shot a1s
a1s shot Knightwing64
a1s shot EuchreJack
Knightwing64 shot ?
EuchreJack shot webadict
TricMagic shot ?
Jim shot nobody
Knightwing64 took damage
EuchreJack took > 2 damage
webadict gained health
a1s took no apparent damage
Jim took no apparent damage
If webadict is indeed telling the truth about healing Knightwing64, then Knightwing64 took >2 damage, but there's no claimed source of damage on Knightwing64 other than a1s' machine gun shot.
a1s claims to be at 1 hp (still), so either a1s possessed more health than they claim, they took no damage, either by nobody actually shooting them, or damage mitigation through soft or hard cover, or they were saved by a player with the Medic passive and a Medical Kit.
EuchreJack took >2 damage but there's no claimed source of damage besides a1s, so either Jack was shot by TricMagic or Knightwing64 or false claiming scum.
webadict gained health, so he has the Medic passive and healed himself and is lying about healing Knightwing64, or there's another player with a Medical Kit who has not claimed. This also means he was healed for more damage than he was dealt, which therefore would mean he was healed in excess of the 2 or 3 damage it would be expected that Jack shot him for by several players, or Jack is lying about shooting webadict.
This is, of course, all assuming that everybody is telling the truth about the damage they took this round.
Knightwing64, claim who you shot and with what.
EuchreJack, how much damage total did you take? Who did you target with your long rifle and your pistol?
webadict, how much health did you gain?
So, my current theory is that at least one of Web or Jim is scum. Because seriously, if they were both town, at least one mafia would be dead.... We should absolutely be shooting a1s.
So, can I count on Web & Jim to shoot each other (and not me)? In fact, that sounds like great advice for everyone. Shoot Jim or Web, but not Jack. Thanks much.
@Web: Why shoot a1s over Jim?Because I've shot a1s for approximately 8 damage and he still hasn't died, and there's absolutely no reason why he should still be alive.
Do you really believe in an a1s/Knightwing scumteam?
If not, you shoot Jim (or me), and let the newbie flounder.
a1s claimed body armor. Plus they probably healed you.@Web: Why shoot a1s over Jim?Because I've shot a1s for approximately 8 damage and he still hasn't died, and there's absolutely no reason why he should still be alive.
Do you really believe in an a1s/Knightwing scumteam?
If not, you shoot Jim (or me), and let the newbie flounder.
If a1s is a Loyalist, this is probably their setup:a1s would've claimed healing me, though. It makes no sense to heal me.
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Secondary) Medical Kit: You heal your target for 2 HP and remove Bleed from them.
(Passive) Body Armor: You start with 2 additional HP.
If a1s is a Loyalist, this is probably their setup:a1s would've claimed healing me, though. It makes no sense to heal me.
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Secondary) Medical Kit: You heal your target for 2 HP and remove Bleed from them.
(Passive) Body Armor: You start with 2 additional HP.
Is your suggestion that it's Jim and Knightwing?If a1s is a Loyalist, this is probably their setup:a1s would've claimed healing me, though. It makes no sense to heal me.
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Secondary) Medical Kit: You heal your target for 2 HP and remove Bleed from them.
(Passive) Body Armor: You start with 2 additional HP.
I think they think you're town.
I mean, they shot me and Knightwing, and you were working with confirmed town Tric, so...
I'm leaning that way, yes.Is your suggestion that it's Jim and Knightwing?If a1s is a Loyalist, this is probably their setup:a1s would've claimed healing me, though. It makes no sense to heal me.
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Secondary) Medical Kit: You heal your target for 2 HP and remove Bleed from them.
(Passive) Body Armor: You start with 2 additional HP.
I think they think you're town.
I mean, they shot me and Knightwing, and you were working with confirmed town Tric, so...
So, my current theory is that at least one of Web or Jim is scum. Because seriously, if they were both town, at least one mafia would be dead.
So, can I count on Web & Jim to shoot each other (and not me)? In fact, that sounds like great advice for everyone. Shoot Jim or Web, but not Jack. Thanks much.
I don't really see how it's possible for Jim to be Town.*not be
It's not impossible for Jim to be scum, but it's entirely unlikely for Jim to be scum. Jim shot me with his primary weapon on the same Phase as the Flamethrower, so it's not at all likely that he's scum here. Additionally, Jim using his primary weapon on Max on Phase 1 is a solidly Town move. I don't really see how it's possible for Jim to be Town. If you want to claim Knightwing is scum, that's an entirely different story, and I don't have solid proof unless he's the one who healed me.
Okay, maybe I should explain it better:It's not impossible for Jim to be scum, but it's entirely unlikely for Jim to be scum. Jim shot me with his primary weapon on the same Phase as the Flamethrower, so it's not at all likely that he's scum here. Additionally, Jim using his primary weapon on Max on Phase 1 is a solidly Town move. I don't really see how it's possible for Jim to be Town. If you want to claim Knightwing is scum, that's an entirely different story, and I don't have solid proof unless he's the one who healed me.
I should shoot YOU for that logic.
Obviously, Jim's partner used the flamethrower. Both mafia players get a freebie from the Mafia Gift Bag.
I wish I had ammo because I really want to shoot Knightwing64.It do be that way.
OKAY JESUS... That's... That's not possible, dude.
I did another no action. I tried to use my one shot but I submitted it 2 minutes too late
I have a 3 day no action streak
This is why I didn’t want to say anything bruh
Jack, why do you shoot me Phase 2?
Sarge doesn't let me have other guns, sir.Because I thought you were scum.
Also,Jack, why do you shoot me Phase 2?
I also don't believe no-action times three Knightwing.
Good luck with shooting me tonight lolSo, does that mean you have actually submitted your action?I also don't believe no-action times three Knightwing.
The crazy thing is, I wish I was scum and this was all a elaborate method of lying
And not a stunning display of incompetence
But Jack surely shot a1s with both his weapons as well.... Knightwing stopped that. Knightwing may have protected a1s.
This is a silly game.I don't know if this game can even end.
Good luck with shooting me tonight lol^wowI also don't believe no-action times three Knightwing.
The crazy thing is, I wish I was scum and this was all a elaborate method of lying
And not a stunning display of incompetence
Vote to end phase early+1
Vote to end phase earlyThis.
It could be that scum picked:Right, I don't see a reason to pick that unless you have a Machine Gun, but there are some bonuses.
(Passive) Combat Expert: All damage instances you inflict with Primary abilities are increased by 1.
Which is probably the stupidest thing to pick.
Sorry guys. I've been lying the whole time.
The flamethrowerer can't be EuchreJack since I took all his damage on Phase 2 and it can't be me since I shot my primary at webadict in the same phase and I have a proven secondary in my Medical Kit, which rules out combat stims. The flamethrowerer must be within Knightwing64, a1s, and webadict then. I'm going to rule out Knightwing64 since his claims of doing nothing for three phases in a row is believable and his do nothing claims line up for Phases 1 and 3, so the flamethrowerer is likely within a1s and webadict, which lines up with a1s and webadict being the weirdest parts for Phase 2.
So basically shoot a1s.
Don't worry. I still think scum have routinely been trying to kill me, so they'll probably shoot me dead tonight.So basically shoot a1s.
I guess you can shoot Jack too.
But focus on killing one of them dead.
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Passive) Vengeful: You may use either a Primary or a Secondary ability the phase after your death.
(Secondary) Suppressed Pistol: You shoot your target for 2 damage.
(Primary) Long Rifle: You shoot your target for 2 damage. A Marked target takes an additional 2 damage.
(Secondary) Semi-Auto Pistol: You shoot your target for 1 damage.
(Passive) Evasive: You always have Soft Cover. Soft Cover reduces all damage instances taken by 1.
'Kay.No worries. Knightwing is next to fall.
Spit it out, friends.
What's your load out?Well, I'm not exactly willing to tell you what I actually have on the off-chance that you do have something that counters me, but I believe that no matter what happens, the game either ends with either you two both dying or all three of us dying, which I believe might be a tie, since you already are aware I don't have the Explosive Vest, since I was, indeed, the one with the Flamethrower.
The game may come down to me flipping a coin between myself and Knightwing64 on who to heal but I don't think the odds are in the Loyalist's favor on this.
I am out of ammo. I cannot do any damage and have not been able to for several phases.
I am out of ammo. I cannot do any damage and have not been able to for several phases.
^
incompetent
Ahh.
That felt good.
incompetentYou have no right to claim this after not shooting 3 times. You are not entirely to blame for your team potentially losing, but you are a majority stakeholder. Jim did his fucking best, and if you think it's his fault, then you didn't pay any attention.
Two of those 3 times were totally not my faultWho would you have shot on those days?
If we want to be technical
So
As Jim would say
Bite me
... Okay, technically, TricMagic was the Town MVP, but Jim was a really close second. He did literally all of the work for you guys, and he didn't deserve to lose.
Two of those 3 times were totally not my faultWho would you have shot on those days?
If we want to be technical
So
As Jim would say
Bite me
@Knightwing: Then the only possibility here is that Jim was shot twice by a1s and Jack. I wasn't shot by a1s.
Well, there were other areas that I didn't do enough. This one was less thorough, but it was an attempt for me to remain neutral on assuming it was you, and giving you the benefit of the doubt. I'd likely have been more adamant it was EuchreJack, but the problem was that he was focused elsewhere. I felt like drawing his attention would've ended with me being shot, and also, part of it was to get TricMagic on my side as well. TricMagic shooting me would've been really bad, so I had to setup some plausibility elsewhere. Really, I should've been telling TricMagic what to do, but that's... difficult.@Knightwing: Then the only possibility here is that Jim was shot twice by a1s and Jack. I wasn't shot by a1s.
You gave in way too fast here. Town Web wouldn’t have given in that fast. I suspect you were trying to buddy me
either Loyalists win or it's a draw
Depends on if Medic or not, I think?Trolling? No. Lying? Sure. I don't have Evasive. I've just been claiming I do.
Or webs been trolling.
I don't see how a traitor win isn't at least possible unless Knightwing64 has more health than I think he does.Hey man, I have no idea either, but it's entirely possible that Knightwing has a bunch of shit that no one knows about. I claimed because the game was dragging, and there was a LOT of elements that made for bad strategy. If Knightwing also had Evasive, then this game was literally rigged against Traitors for no fucking reason.
Web could have won if he stayed silent cause of that.Meh. That's not a win worth having.
Tric, I hope you at least regretted marking me a little.Honestly no. It revealed a1s hard on my end of things. I was sorta expecting to either live and murder them, or die and murder them. As is it at least gave me an ally in Jack, for how long that lasted. (Who was the one who suggested I shot Jack? Web would have cottoned on to mafia-jack, and since he didn't, it ended up being normal web fallacies.)
Fair. Just trying to drive it home for knightwing.Web could have won if he stayed silent cause of that.Meh. That's not a win worth having.
<Knightwing64>
(Primary) Assault Rifle: You shoot two targets for 1 damage each, or shoot one target for 2 damage.
(1-Shot, Secondary) Deployable Barricade: Your target and yourself gain Hard Cover for this phase. Hard Cover reduces all damage instances taken to 0. You and your target can still take damage from each other.
<EuchreJack>
(Primary) Long Rifle: You shoot your target for 2 damage. A Marked target takes an additional 2 damage.
(Secondary) Semi-Auto Pistol: You shoot your target for 1 damage.
(Passive) Evasive: You always have Soft Cover. Soft Cover reduces all damage instances taken by 1.
<TricMagic>
(Primary) Double Barrel Shotgun: You shoot your target for 3 damage.
(Secondary) Signal Flare: Your target is Marked for this phase. A Marked target does not benefit from Cover.
(Passive) Vengeful: You may use either a Primary or a Secondary ability the phase after your death.
<Maximum Spin>
(Primary) Sniper Rifle: You aim at your target and do 0 damage if you did not aim in the previous phase. If you aimed at your target in the previous phase, you shoot your target for 3 damage. A Marked target takes an additional 3 damage.
(Secondary) Semi-Auto Pistol: You shoot your target for 1 damage.
(Passive) Marksman: You do 1 additional damage with Rifle weapons, and your starting Primary weapon is a Rifle.
<Jim Groovester>
(2-Shot, Primary) Flechette Cannon: You shoot your target for 4 damage, bypassing Cover.
(Secondary) Medical Kit: You heal your target for 2 HP and remove Bleed from them.
(Passive) Medic: You may target yourself with a Medical Kit, and if a player other than yourself would drop to 0 or less HP when you use Medical Kit on them, you stabilize them at 1 HP. You gain a Medical Kit if you did not already have one.
<webadict>
(Primary) Long Rifle: You shoot your target for 2 damage. A Marked target takes an additional 2 damage.
(Passive) Vengeful: You may use either a Primary or a Secondary ability the phase after your death.
<>(1-Shot, Primary) Flamethrower: You incinerate your target for 5 damage. It is publicly revealed that your target was incinerated.
<a1s>
(Primary) Machine Gun: You shoot two targets for 2 damage each.
(Passive) Vengeful: You may use either a Primary or a Secondary ability the phase after your death.
<>(Secondary) Suppressed Pistol: You shoot your target for 2 damage.
Web would have cottoned on to mafia-jack, and since he didn't, it ended up being normal web fallacies.Especially the part where he changed his mind on Jack toward the end there. Only scum web does that! I already figured it was him by that point, but still.
TellmehowmuchHPweallhadinthefinalstandoffThen it was a tie.
I had 4
Literally everyone had a better role than I did.I think we have learned that 100% random role generation is shit.
No, wait, wow, Healing is fucking busted.It's a lot worse without the Medic perk (in that case, Knightwing would be dead and you'd have won), but it'd be a lot more reasonable if it was, say, a 3-shot.
I did itPossibly. But, I figured that if the game was balanced in any way, you wouldn't have Medic.
I guessed right in Phase 6
WHEW
web I think if you shot me in Phase 6 instead of Knightwing64 traitors would have won since I healed Knightwing64 that phase.
Like, I cannot stress how not balanced the game was.Clearly, purely random role generation doesn't work.
Knightwing, you need to step up your game.