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Dwarf Fortress => DF General Discussion => Topic started by: powercat on December 07, 2022, 01:51:37 pm

Title: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: powercat on December 07, 2022, 01:51:37 pm
Hello,

I noticed that the Steam version is 50.01, but the ASCII version if 47.05, and is almost 2 years old

Dev's said they'd keep updating the ASCII version.

Any idea when we'll get an update to the ASCII version? thx
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Bumber on December 07, 2022, 01:58:21 pm
Quote from: Toady One on December 02, 2022, 06:04:59 pm
As you've probably seen, Classic is shortly after launch now - basically the next thing I'm working on, and there are just a few things to clean up.  I can't predict what's going to happen with sudden issues and etc. after launch, since it'll be a whole new universe, but if things are settled quickly, it shouldn't take very long.  The conversion is mostly done - there are just a few display issues (title screen, world maps, buildings don't print, sky looks weird, a few buttons don't show.)
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: powercat on December 07, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Thank you!!

Btw, any way to get the classic ASCII UI with the steam version? I prefer the old ASCII to the graphics
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Bumber on December 07, 2022, 02:22:55 pm
Quote from: powercat on December 07, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Btw, any way to get the classic ASCII UI with the steam version? I prefer the old ASCII to the graphics

No, it's not ready yet in general.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 07, 2022, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: powercat on December 07, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Thank you!!

Btw, any way to get the classic ASCII UI with the steam version? I prefer the old ASCII to the graphics
If there were it would have been released. He's not making us wait just for lols....
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: powercat on December 07, 2022, 05:22:00 pm
Quote from: Shonai_Dweller on December 07, 2022, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: powercat on December 07, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Thank you!!

Btw, any way to get the classic ASCII UI with the steam version? I prefer the old ASCII to the graphics
If there were it would have been released. He's not making us wait just for lols....

I guess what I'm asking is, in the future, will the Steam version be able to toggle to classic text UI? or should I just skip the Steam version since I don't want the graphics/mouse UI?
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: LuuBluum on December 07, 2022, 05:26:36 pm
The mouse UI will also be a thing in classic. The only difference between the two will be the graphics, music, and how the UI actually looks.

There's also a "keyboard cursor" option in settings to make designations work without the mouse, though as far as I can tell there's no keyboard-only menu navigation just yet. I threw a suggestion up for it.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 07, 2022, 05:38:48 pm
Quote from: powercat on December 07, 2022, 05:22:00 pm
Quote from: Shonai_Dweller on December 07, 2022, 05:15:53 pm
Quote from: powercat on December 07, 2022, 02:13:49 pm
Thank you!!

Btw, any way to get the classic ASCII UI with the steam version? I prefer the old ASCII to the graphics
If there were it would have been released. He's not making us wait just for lols....

I guess what I'm asking is, in the future, will the Steam version be able to toggle to classic text UI? or should I just skip the Steam version since I don't want the graphics/mouse UI?
You'll be able to toggle between text and graphic versions yes.
The game will be the same though, so hopefully more useful keybindings will be added before Classic is released.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Maloy on December 07, 2022, 05:40:04 pm
I imagine we will be waiting a bit for that release considering the steam version doesn't have adventure mode.
Seems like theirs a lot to do for the classic version, but I could certainly be wrong
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: LuuBluum on December 07, 2022, 05:49:53 pm
Classic is slated first, I believe.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Thisfox on December 07, 2022, 06:54:01 pm
Me, I'm really looking forward to the Mac version, but it will be sad if it's not got the ASCII visuals, I've always loved that about Dwarf Fortress. No doubt it will "happen when it happens" and I'm fine with that. So delighted it's been a successful launch, even if I can't play the game! Very very awesome that it's happened so well.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Shonai_Dweller on December 07, 2022, 06:56:41 pm
As has been mentioned (and quoted above), classic is what Toady is working on now (well, after the parties I guess....).
So it'll most likely turn up way before Adventurer as that's a huge amount of work.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: hirsute_offender on December 08, 2022, 07:00:16 am
classic mode is great, but i don't get why they are still releasing the free version
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: FantasticDorf on December 08, 2022, 07:03:36 am
Quote from: hirsute_offender on December 08, 2022, 07:00:16 am
classic mode is great, but i don't get why they are still releasing the free version

The steam version is basically a continuation of the patreon they've had for many years, with extra bells and whistles which usually resulted in some sort of content drive for one thing or another (like many of the animal species were suggested by patreons).

Its still essentially a free game as its always been.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Lidku on December 08, 2022, 10:48:48 am
So what content is in the 50.01 release?
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: LuuBluum on December 08, 2022, 11:44:42 am
Steam workshop, the tileset, the music, nicer icons for the GUI.
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Darkgamma on December 08, 2022, 07:10:45 pm
Quote from: LuuBluum on December 07, 2022, 05:26:36 pm
The mouse UI will also be a thing in classic. The only difference between the two will be the graphics, music, and how the UI actually looks.

There's also a "keyboard cursor" option in settings to make designations work without the mouse, though as far as I can tell there's no keyboard-only menu navigation just yet. I threw a suggestion up for it.

This implies the death of the linux terminal and ssh version as well, not just obligatory remapping of half the thing in GUI mode to make the mouse obligatory, huh...
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Thatotherguy23 on December 10, 2022, 01:15:25 am
There is new content, below. Also very below content. There's agitated creatures based on how much you're chopping trees, building outside and fishing(destroying their environment so they're enraged). That also extends to underground visitors... Fine grained difficulty options in the menu now. Elves are even more hated because they're more annoying to trade with but not sure if there's anything else new with them. New noble stuff. World generation seems changed, at least in regards to surface volcanoes? There may be more but we didn't get patchnotes this time
Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Raven on December 11, 2022, 04:12:22 am
Quote from: Thatotherguy23 on December 10, 2022, 01:15:25 am
There is new content, below. Also very below content. There's agitated creatures based on how much you're chopping trees, building outside and fishing(destroying their environment so they're enraged). That also extends to underground visitors... Fine grained difficulty options in the menu now. Elves are even more hated because they're more annoying to trade with but not sure if there's anything else new with them. New noble stuff. World generation seems changed, at least in regards to surface volcanoes? There may be more but we didn't get patchnotes this time
elves
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Title: Re: Any news when 50.01 gets released classic?
Post by: Bumber on December 11, 2022, 09:18:55 pm
Quote from: Raven on December 11, 2022, 04:12:22 am
elves
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Just reminded me of the picture of a dwarf doing the ancient aliens meme regarding elves. I forget whose avatar it is.