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Dwarf Fortress => DF General Discussion => Topic started by: Shonai_Dweller on December 25, 2022, 05:21:21 am
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Anyone else experiencing monastery spam in longer worlds?
Might just be because I have so many civs in my mod and therefore way too many gods.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJCrFdX7/mon-spam.png)
Have a feeling this was also a thing in 47.05 too.
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Can't say i have THAT much but in my worlds even after standard 250 years monasteries are very dense
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That's.... a lot of monastries
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and most (if not all) are empty
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So… what we’re dealing with is a band of traveling monastery builders?
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It's been a problem since monasteries were introduced. When a monastic religion gets founded, it creates a new monastery. New religions get made indefinitely forever so long as civs don't die. Monasteries also don't respect the site cap.
If Toady introduced a religion cap or some mechanic to prevent new religions from creating new sites after some time, it could solve this issue. Or have them be hidden by default on the map, like camps and lairs. For now, the only way to reduce monastery spamming is to reduce the number of pantheon-worshiping civilizations itself.
I just ignore it for now, though it doesn't help that these sites are uninteresting places to travel to in adv mode. There could be more locations like libraries, hospitals or underground crypts and not just a single temple and couple shrines for each monastery.
and most (if not all) are empty
There's an apparent bug or oversight where the monks and abbots who're supposed to inhabit monasteries are absent and are found at other sites instead, wandering in large groups or idling in the keeps respectively, sometimes conflating the already problematic lag in large populated sites.
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Monks spend time converting others to their religion in worldgen, so I don't think it's a bug to have them out at other sites.
But, yeah, mouseover across the map and I can see a lot of these are empty ("monastery" as opposed to "hobbit monastery, etc"). There are still quite a few occupied ones so it's not all of them.
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I haven't seen that many. But in Adv mode they're like everywhere. It's by far the most common site.
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hm... I checked some of my own world.
There's...
7 shrines
25 caves
35 castles
52 forts
174 Bandit camps
256 Monasteries
151 Night creature lairs
Interesting thing about lairs, shrines, caves and camps is that they don't show up on the map until an adventurer finds them, while monasteries are always visible.
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So… what we’re dealing with is a band of traveling monastery builders?
A band of 7 monastery builders by any chance? Prone to self extinguishing bouts of tantrum spirals? Maybe not just one band, many singular bands...