Bay 12 Games Forum
Other Projects => Curses => Topic started by: Nonanonymous on October 14, 2008, 07:21:47 pm
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One of the primary aspects of the game is to paint the Conservatives as horrible evil monsters, right? Well, considering we already have genetics research facilities full of purple gorillas and giant mosquitoes, why not have an even higher security facility where teleportation research is conducted, as well as experiments on a few demonic entities? I mean, who wouldn't want to recruit a Mancubus or Cyberdemon to go with their tanks in security uniforms?
This game needs some boat-murdering conservative Elephants and Donkey steeds for our paraplegic crime squad members.
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Lets keep it closer to something a bit more realistic.
Like a toxin/poison that turns people into conservatives
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My rose tinted glasses beg me to ask what's so much more realistic about fire breathing bunnies and talking guard dogs that you can ask out on a date compared to cybernetic demons and teleporters.
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Well, LCS is a game of satire. In real life, the far left tells horror stories about twisted genetic experiments that go on in animal testing laboratories, and the game, keeping with its mood, takes that one step further (thus fire breathing bunnies, and purple gorillas). However, no where in real life have I heard of anyone consorting with demons (except maybe in the fine publication known as World Weekly News, which sadly no longer exists).
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But the UAC was one of the greatest, most fuzzily defined examples of the science fiction archetype of the evil mega-corporation!
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Teleporters and Aliens arn't a satire or Homage (Mutants are Satire and Guitars are Homage) unless you go to Area 51
It needs to fall under one of those.
Now if the Teleporters transported you to the headquarters of a Shadow President or something who happens to come from another planet or something... Maybe.
Though Ill still have to stick with Mind Controlling devices / drugs
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I will agree to this only if the Big Fuckin' Gun 9000 is added too.
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Teleporters and Aliens arn't a satire or Homage (Mutants are Satire and Guitars are Homage) unless you go to Area 51
It needs to fall under one of those.
Now if the Teleporters transported you to the headquarters of a Shadow President or something who happens to come from another planet or something... Maybe.
Though Ill still have to stick with Mind Controlling devices / drugs
You seem to have no idea what I'm drawing this from if you think that this isn't an homage. (http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/Doom)
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Guitar music is associated with many liberals. Putting guitars in is an homage to their efforts at liberalism. A Doom reference would not be an homage to liberalism.
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Guitar music is associated with many liberals. Putting guitars in is an homage to their efforts at liberalism. A Doom reference would not be an homage to liberalism.
Not considering how many conservatives wanted to ban the game?
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Guitar music is associated with many liberals. Putting guitars in is an homage to their efforts at liberalism. A Doom reference would not be an homage to liberalism.
Guitars are also a reference to a Cyberpunk world(s) where people fight the power by becoming the cyberpunk version of a Bard. Making Guitars in this game to be an Homage (and possibly a Parody on how people once wanted to ban rock and roll because it "corrupts the youth" and is "the devil's music")
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Guitar music is associated with many liberals. Putting guitars in is an homage to their efforts at liberalism. A Doom reference would not be an homage to liberalism.
Not considering how many conservatives wanted to ban the game?
That's not a culturally iconic thing. Conservatives wanting to ban Harry Potter was a cultural icon and get's a shout out in the game. Doom is no Harry Potter.
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Guitar music is associated with many liberals. Putting guitars in is an homage to their efforts at liberalism. A Doom reference would not be an homage to liberalism.
Well, at the very least, they both share gratuitous violence.
On a less related note, why haven't we seen any Elephants in this game yet? They're iconic of Bay12, not to mention the national symbol of the Republican party.
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To admit the lack of Elephants and Donkeys in this game is a mystery I agree.
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New thread topic. This game needs some boat-murdering conservative Elephants and Donkey steeds for our paraplegic crime squad members.
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Steeds = win.
But let's be clear that we in no way endorse the concept of "knights" or "nobility." Class structure is an evil capitalist construction.
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You don't have to make a suggestion even if you can't come up with anything good, you know.
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Some sort of ren fair might be a good sight location though. Swords, hammers and costumes for sale, weird hippies/students and the like to pick up.
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If you want elephants, a Zoo location where poor Animal-Americans are oppressed and belittled for the amusement of the Conservative public could work, with the option of opening cages much like in the Genetics plant (and maybe getting a nice zebra running out, maybe a hungry tiger... or perhaps an unpredictable elephant).
But this would only make sense if we added an issue specifically addressing Animal Rights.
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You don't have to make a suggestion even if you can't come up with anything good, you know.
Edit to be less of a dick: Look, you might not appreciate the absurd very much, but I, for one, do. Plus, in my opinion, riding a donkey into battle is about twice as badass as using a wheel chair.
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If you want elephants, a Zoo location where poor Animal-Americans are oppressed and belittled for the amusement of the Conservative public could work, with the option of opening cages much like in the Genetics plant (and maybe getting a nice zebra running out, maybe a hungry tiger... or perhaps an unpredictable elephant).
But this would only make sense if we added an issue specifically addressing Animal Rights.
That's an interesting point. I was surprised to see that there wasnt much in the way of animal rights in the game beyond the genetics labs, even though that's a pretty big liberal subject. Also, zoos for the win!
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On the topic of demons;
Left: "They're evil! They're creating genetic monsters! The poor rabbits!"
Right: "They're evil! Liberalism is THE DEVIL. Literally!"
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Reminds me of the satire where a Donkey and Elephant are in a room where there is one Lethal Injection bag with two wires to a criminal and a unborn child (who TECHNICALLY is born but you know what I mean) and they both say to the other "You monster"
This is kinda why I think the two party system is sorta odd in the sense that... No reasonable person could ever be ENTIRELY Liberal or Conservative... So thus the United States is doomed to eternal horridness because there can never be "Sane" party. Though I guess it is balanced by the fact that they do have to cater to the people (Who don't really try to control the government as a whole... thus giving them a "License to do whatever we want")
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"The elephant punches Urist McOperative in the head."
"Urist McOperative shouts, "FATHER! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?!" and dies in a heap."
Elephants=Win, only if they are like the Deathphants of old.
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If we are doing this satire wise and add in animal rights, cops should be riding into battle on elephants at arch conservative level and cleaning up after donkeys at elite liberal. Not sure how that last part would affect gameplay but during sieges you could face mounted cops who would get two attacks a turn 1 with their mp5's and one from the elephant. That would also help to balance out sieges.
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If we are doing this satire wise and add in animal rights, cops should be riding into battle on elephants at arch conservative level and cleaning up after donkeys at elite liberal. Not sure how that last part would affect gameplay but during sieges you could face mounted cops who would get two attacks a turn 1 with their mp5's and one from the elephant. That would also help to balance out sieges.
the only problem there would be that then we'd have animal enemies, and it wouldn't be very liberal to kill animals
"Policer Officier gasps and then slowly drifts away
1980 Elephant hit a parked car and flips over"
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the only problem there would be that then we'd have animal enemies, and it wouldn't be very liberal to kill animals
It isn't liberal to use guns either, and yet...:)
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the only problem there would be that then we'd have animal enemies, and it wouldn't be very liberal to kill animals
It isn't liberal to use guns either, and yet...:)
Liberalism taken to the extreme could be seen as giving animals all the rights that humans have and thus human life and animal life would be all but equal. Thus there would be no qualms with Liberals, who kill anyone they want, who want to kill a bunch of animals.
A Donkey (or Elephant I forget) who wants to support Conservatism then it deserves to die! (Speaking within respect of LCS... In real life the Liberal Crime Squad would clearly be the villains)