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Other Projects => Curses => Topic started by: Servant Corps on November 10, 2008, 03:31:13 pm
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http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-fg-sadr10-2008nov10,0,1627051.story
This article inspired me...What if there is an LCS mod where you play as a milita in a war-torn area such as Iraq (like the Madhi Army)?
Of course, modding LCS must be pretty hard, so meh. Is it possible to keep the basics of the LCS game, but just rename organizations, for example, renaming the "Conservative Crime Squad" to the "Sons of Iraq"?
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No.
LCS is funny because it's in America, a functioning democracy where the government does a pretty good job of representing the people. It's about a group of revolutionaries who are completely blind to the world and that's what makes it funny. Putting it in Iraq would be tasteless and would ruin the game.
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Oh. Er.
Sorry then. Request withdrawn. I guess I have a terribly dark sense of humor.
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I think I would fear actually inspiring people to engage in violence by making it look like it's effective. But for what it's worth, I sometimes look to the middle east for source material. Kind of sad, really, that I could look anywhere for source material for this game. :(
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No.
LCS is funny because it's in America, a dysfunctional democracy where the government does a pretty bad job of representing the people. It's about a group of revolutionaries who are completely fucking awesome and that's what makes it funny. Putting it in Iraq would be realistic and would ruin the game.
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No.
LCS is funny because it's in America, a functioning democracy Constutional Republic where the government does a pretty good job of representing the people. It's about a group of revolutionaries who are completely blind to the world and that's what makes it funny. Putting it in Iraq would be tasteless and would ruin the game.
Fixed that for ya.
But yes, this is why the game works. Ever see that video "If the other side wins"? Basically that in a game.
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I really hope the "Other side" isn't the south... because TECHNICALLY if the South won the American Civil war they would have broke from America and split the USA as we know it into two (or possibly more) Countries.
At least how I interpret it.
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I really hope the "Other side" isn't the south
I think he's referring to this video about the 2008 election (http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1888086), or something similar, where the "other side" is just whichever side you disagree with.
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But for what it's worth, I sometimes look to the middle east for source material. Kind of sad, really, that I could look anywhere for source material for this game. :(
Really? I thought the game was more in the spirit of Latin American revolution. After all, American capitalist greed features quite prominently in said revolutions.
Also, Duke, words have meaning according to how they're used, and when I say democracy, people understand it to mean a government with elections not just direct democracy. Don't play semantic games or I'll get angry. And you won't like that...
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The game was written in the spirit of SLA-style US revolution, and to my eye still cleaves pretty strongly to it.
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While I do sometimes look to middle eastern militant groups for inspiration, this is not to in any way diminish the influence that Latin American models have on the game. It is definitely correct to say that the game is in the spirit of Latin American revolution.
As E. Albright points out, the primary influence on LCS is the SLA, which was a small group of US militants based in California in the 70s. The SLA was directly inspired by Latin American revolutionary ideas, and misguidedly transplanted these ideas into California, where they made international news with various LCS-like activities before being eventually crushed by the police.
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Crushed is an understatment.
Didn't their hideout catch on fire?
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yeah, but a few of them weren't in the safehouse, but in a hotel room so they got away to recruit a few more ppl. Unfortunately, those were killed or arrested too. There's only like 3 that weren't killed, one of which is getting out in March
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one of which is getting out in March
Hah! Now the LCS can begin it's work anew!
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I didn't quite see the Middle Eastern influence on this.
To me, it seemed like a dystopian future where the US was trying to become 1984, but instead of being communist or whatever, it happened to be conservative.
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There isn't much in the game right now. The middle eastern influence is relegated primarily to when I'm looking for explanations as to why and how a militant group like the LCS could become popular and influential. The objective isn't to make it realistic, but look to a real-world example to get ideas for how to direct future developments.
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According to a book on the Basque terrorists, the Basques conduct terrorist attacks because they knew the Spainish government would react heavily against the terrorists and conduct a terrible crackdown. The crackdown would be unpopular, targeting other Basques not affilated with the movement, and thereby make the Basques more sympatethic with the terrorists.
Is there such a mechanic within the game, where causing a terrorist attack means the Conservative Government begin cracking down on Liberals, meaning Liberals may become more likely to lean towards you? It might be a tad imbalancing though...
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According to a book on the Basque terrorists, the Basques conduct terrorist attacks because they knew the Spainish government would react heavily against the terrorists and conduct a terrible crackdown. The crackdown would be unpopular, targeting other Basques not affilated with the movement, and thereby make the Basques more sympatethic with the terrorists.
Is there such a mechanic within the game, where causing a terrorist attack means the Conservative Government begin cracking down on Liberals, meaning Liberals may become more likely to lean towards you? It might be a tad imbalancing though...
The Liberals are always kinda on your side anyhow
You want the Undecided and Concervatives themselves to swing to your favor.
Though if the game got mechanics where the community itself could aid you (Such as starting a riot when your running away from the police or putting pressure on court cases) then I could see where it would be helpful.
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According to a book on the Basque terrorists, the Basques conduct terrorist attacks because they knew the Spainish government would react heavily against the terrorists and conduct a terrible crackdown. The crackdown would be unpopular, targeting other Basques not affilated with the movement, and thereby make the Basques more sympatethic with the terrorists.
Is there such a mechanic within the game, where causing a terrorist attack means the Conservative Government begin cracking down on Liberals, meaning Liberals may become more likely to lean towards you? It might be a tad imbalancing though...
The Liberals are always kinda on your side anyhow
You want the Undecided and Concervatives themselves to swing to your favor.
Though if the game got mechanics where the community itself could aid you (Such as starting a riot when your running away from the police or putting pressure on court cases) then I could see where it would be helpful.
another idea, have liberals you meet in encounters with the conservatives fight along side you, depending on the country's liberal status, with a slight chance of accidentally hitting them of course, instead of just running away
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another idea, have liberals you meet in encounters with the conservatives fight along side you, depending on the country's liberal status, with a slight chance of accidentally hitting them of course, instead of just running away
Nah, they're not determined to do something. They'll bolt because they're civvies. Plus, since they're Liberals they need to be weak-kneed pacifists, even moreso when doing so is socially acceptable. ;)