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Dwarf Fortress => DF Adventure Mode Discussion => Topic started by: Dakk on December 17, 2008, 01:11:47 am
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Yea, everyone had their adventurers killed at least once, by different things. Some say unicorns became batshit berserkers after the last update, some say elephants are the most powerful force to ever walk the land, while everyone is afraid of the dreadful carp.
But what creature do you think is the deadliest? And Why?
I say the deadliest thing that isn't something that came out from the HFS is the Giant Cave Spider (GCS for short).
Carp will drag you to the water and drown/eat you, elephants will make you as flat as a pancake, unicorns will impale you, but the GCS will paralyze you, poison you, strike you with a bunch of legs in rapid sucession and bite your head off.
They seem kinda rare now, though.
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Right now, for me, its elf bowmen. I'll be merrily slaughtering elf children, collecting their heads in a bag, and all of the sudden I've got an alder arrow stuck in my spleen. I try to chase the bastard down but can never seem to find him before bleeding to death.
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GCS are not rare enough I would say ;) Everytime I get to some cave they kick my a**!
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goblin-baby-snatched dwarven elite marksdwarfs.
my adventurer slautered three GCS, only minor wounds (urist mconearm), and was using a GCS leg as a sword to slaughter gobbo's, when a fellow dwarf severd my head with one shot. further attempts only made the snatched marksdwarf more bad a**.
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Ice. :-[
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Drow elf bowmen squads.
Damn invisible bastards.
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Giant Scorpions. Same thing as the Giant Cave Spider in OP. The thought of an ambush by one of these has caused me to completely avoid deserts or rocky wastelands when traveling.
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Cats.
If left unchecked, they can wipe out a fortress from within.
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Or blow up and prematurely destroy a fortress.
For me, it has to be OMFGIADWESSGCS-A!.
Oh-My-Fucking-God-Its-A-Damn-World-Eating-Soul-Stealing-Giant-Cave-Spider-ACK!
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Aww... You're afraid of giant cave spiders? These things?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Shelobpj.jpg)
Yes. I am scared too.
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Giant Scorpions. Same thing as the Giant Cave Spider in OP. The thought of an ambush by one of these has caused me to completely avoid deserts or rocky wastelands when traveling.
You know, that means Toady has created a game with areas on the world that players are scared of entering and dieing*. This is awesome.
*Unless of course they do the dwarven thing to do: to charge in oblivious to danger, lobbing socks and flies at their foes.
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Well, i personnaly have no issues with GCS or Giant Scorpians. all it takes is a single stab to anything semi-important to their ability to well....live (ie. foot, abdomen, head) and some twistes of a spear to keep them distracted, eventually they pass out and die. i have fought quite alot of the buggers. i have killed ettins,hydras,titans,giants, everything. but by far armys of zombie carp and zombie whales scare the s*** out of me the most. oh yeah, if your not using a spear, pike, bow or xbow you DOIN IT WRONG vs anythin big.
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GCS are very fun.
Skeleton/Zombie Dragons are even more fun.
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Aww... You're afraid of giant cave spiders? These things?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/Shelobpj.jpg)
Yes. I am scared too.
Their so scary, your attempt at making fun of me was dispeled by equal fear of these things. Hot damn is Toady doing it right.
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A Zombie Dragon with an army of GCS behind him WHILE ON FIRE.
USING YOUR BARE HANDS.
WHILE ON FIRE.
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>-cArPpp>
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Carp are no threat if you can swim.
No, the real threat, the real threat are five or six beak dogs.
Fuck those guys.
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Crazy bad ass kungfu wolves. I was playing as a titan in adventure mode and got ambushed by wolves. At the beginning of the fight one of the wolves jumps up and rips out my throat. Made me laugh thinking about how high it would have to jump to do that.
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Crazy bad ass kungfu wolves. I was playing as a titan in adventure mode and got ambushed by wolves. At the beginning of the fight one of the wolves jumps up and rips out my throat. Made me laugh thinking about how high it would have to jump to do that.
Ever seen Princess Mononoke?
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Ever seen Princess Mononoke?
Ooooh. Big ass wolves in there to.
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Erm.
I believe the adjective to use with the wolves is "bad ass".
"big ass" refers to the Princess ... right? ;D
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Ever seen Princess Mononoke?
Ooooh. Big ass wolves in there to.
And head-shooting-off too. I just watched it. The wolves didn't really do anything that special themselves though...
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All I can remember from that movie is tens of thousands of boars marching to their deaths faster than lemmings... and some freaky apes or something...
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I'd say for the most shocking insta-death it has to be giant cave swallow(men?)s. It seems like every time I'm on a good, healthy rampage hunting down a giant I get side-tracked by one or two of these guys, then turn a corner just to have my brain pecked through.
Maybe not the deadliest in a stand up fight, but definately a number one adventurer life-taker.
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the only thing i ever seem to have issues with is elite bowmen or crossbowmen of any kind. ive never died to a giant cave swallow, but i keep hearing about how bad they are... to me they are just annoying feathery meatbags who run annoyingly fast when i lightly injure them.
but things which have range... even with good armor and skills there is still a pretty high chance that they will get a piercing organ skewering shot from outside your vision range when your raiding a goblin fort or something.
also, ive never been able to beat the champion dwarves i leave behind when i abandon in fort mode, though ive only done so when they are berserk and i cant recruit them. but i tend to have them legendary in as many different skills as i can manage though... so yeah.
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Never make GCS breed like rabbits.
I found a cave with nearly thirty of the things.
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I just tried to spite you. Holy hell, that world was nuked from my files so fast I was scared.
EDIT:
Yes in the span of 22 minutes I edited some files for the creature, made a world, and found a cave. Died in under a minute.
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Not to derail the thread to badly, but it'd be a cool experiment to set them up as a race in place of the elves and see what happens. Giant Cave Swallow Archer men. or some such thing.
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hah, to that poor unlucky bronze colossus guy who had his throat torn out by a wolf, i just went around with a brand new wrestler, found nothing to do at my starting civ and no weapons or people to recruit, so started marching towards the nearest human town.
i had taken all the clothes from a trade wagon that somehow fell from a great height along with its mules and diplomat as soon as i spawned, and i got ambushed by tonnes of wolves along the way, and beat them all to death with a pig tail shoe i happened to have been holding in my hand.
and the biggest ambush was 8 wolves in one go. with a pig tail show. with a brand new character who was only a competent wrestler. till i finally lucked out and got eaten by a cougar who was unimpressed by my blood soaked shoe of doom.
and seriously, ive had goblin towers collapse as soon as i enter the area, and one town sink into the sea when i arrived in it, but do random wagons fall out of the sky often? ive never even seen a wagon before in adventure mode, and to have one go splat right in front of me was a bit of a surprise.
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hah, to that poor unlucky bronze colossus guy who had his throat torn out by a wolf, i just went around with a brand new wrestler, found nothing to do at my starting civ and no weapons or people to recruit, so started marching towards the nearest human town.
i had taken all the clothes from a trade wagon that somehow fell from a great height along with its mules and diplomat as soon as i spawned, and i got ambushed by tonnes of wolves along the way, and beat them all to death with a pig tail shoe i happened to have been holding in my hand.
and the biggest ambush was 8 wolves in one go. with a pig tail show. with a brand new character who was only a competent wrestler. till i finally lucked out and got eaten by a cougar who was unimpressed by my blood soaked shoe of doom.
and seriously, ive had goblin towers collapse as soon as i enter the area, and one town sink into the sea when i arrived in it, but do random wagons fall out of the sky often? ive never even seen a wagon before in adventure mode, and to have one go splat right in front of me was a bit of a surprise.
Now first, i was a titan. If i was a bronze colossus my throat wouldn't matter at all. Second, i have also owned legions of wolves with inferior equipment on other characters. Third, awesome wagon rain.
Did it just die an turn into wood?
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yeah, there were a few peices of wood and some barrels and lots of clothes. it gave me the message "the oak wagon has been scuttled!" and then spammed me constantly about the diplomat who would wake up, walk a few squares and pass out again from his injuries.
and really unlucky with the wolf, i guess.
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I had an Ettin kill off 7 adventurers.
7.
Just an Ettin.
I don't know what I'll do if I ever see a GCS.
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You'll get owned is what you'll do.
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I wonder if you can make spider-men with 6 arms.
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Skeletal GCS.
I don't even know how that works, since GCS have exoskeletons, not Endoskeletons.
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Maybe they have an extra skeleton? Or maybe we should be imagineing...you know, like hollowed out spiders with empty eyes and stuff. Wait...your right. That wouldn't work...
Well this is the Internet. Home of things that spit in the face of logic.
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Alternately: Skeletal Giant eagle.
YOU CAN'T BREAK BONES WITH BOLTS.
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Now first, i was a titan. If i was a bronze colossus my throat wouldn't matter at all.
Doesn't [SEVER_ON_BREAKS] mean head-falls-off then though? I'm not experienced on the matter.
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Or maybe we should be imagineing...you know, like hollowed out spiders with empty eyes and stuff. Wait...your right. That wouldn't work...
...compared to regular skeletal beings, which make perfect sense?
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Heh, I wonder if you could get lucky and climb into the shell/armor/exoskeleton of a Skeletal Giant Scorpion. Maybe something for version 1.
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you can climb into a dead giant scorpion. just go fort mode and make them into leather armor. leather armor made from giant desert scorpion chitin should really be better then normal leather armor. as it is when i make it its just more valuable. oh well. waiting for the day when i can make mugs from peoples skulls. earings and bracelets are all fine, but i want my dwarves drinking from elf skull tankards...
GCS is always extra nasty because it can web you then chew away at its leisure. interesting to find in fort mode. never met one yet in adventure mode. the wiki article on it is funny. i still hate elite bowpeople the most.
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I've made a fortress on the side of a river filled with carp. Two dwarves died. Not from the carp. From a sea lamprey.
A fucking sea lamprey.
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That would be intense, I can see a lamprey twisting around some helpless dwarf, sucking on his tender flesh.
Also, just set the GCS pop to 25:50.
Will update with the horrible results.
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Giant lions in groups are the most horrible thing ever to fast spawn on as a new spear user >.<
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Groups of anything are GG for a spearman.
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The single scariest thing I've ever encountered has been a giant bat. Doesn't seem all that scary, does it? But somehow, out of absolutely nowhere, the thing materializes *inside* my fortress, *inside* one of my dwarf's bedrooms, and then laid waste to atleast 6 or 7 of my dwarfs, while they were asleep. I finally had to gather up all my dwarf sentries, in full armour, and march them all back down inside my fortress in the middle of the night to kill the thing, and it still ate 3 of those. I'm not even 100% that they actually killed the f-ing thing, I don't think I ever found remains, just gallons and gallons of blood splashed everywhere...
It was exactly like that scene in Jeepers Creepers, where the Creeper breaks into the police station and slaughters all the cops.
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Obviously.
;)
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Most dangerous? Macaques. They pushed a town's priests off the highest level.
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Yeah those silly monkeys. Always up to no good.
Dern Macaques.
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The single scariest thing I've ever encountered has been a giant bat.
I completely agree with you now.
I had a gold vein that crossed the chasm designated to mine out, and one miner got there ahead of the others. He starting mining, but then a giant bat swooped in the newly breached hole in the wall and he ran for his life. He sprinted down the mined-out vein, up the staircase, and was at the top about to escape past my cage traps... when the giant bat grabbed him from down in the staircase and ripped both legs off. He fell unconscious at the top of the stairs, and was then gnawed on by the bat, which stayed down in the staircase. It managed to also rip off his right arm before killing him. Another miner arrived and put a pick through the newly named Edanágesh's heart. I think she gets a nicer room and a fancy tomb...
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(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/b3/Dwarf-r.jpg)
Probably the deadlies creature to you, uh, lower body, if it was ever implemented.
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I would have to say the worst thing I have come across are Giant cave swallows. Sure they are not as bad as the GC Spiders, least your military dwarfs will recognize them as dangerous. I have had my military, which was set to harass the wildlife completly ignore them, while they were running rampant inside my fort. The military was stationed right next to them as well.
After this one happening, all GC swallows become instant markdwarf targets for me. I go out of my way to station marksdwarfs pretty much underneath, or near any I find on my maps.
I'm sure even in adveture mode they can be a handful, thanks to their flying and most military dwarfs just ignore them. Though once they do get engaged they don't last all that long.
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I think the deadliest thing in adventure mode is definetly ice. You're having a nice afternoon swim when you see the ~'s turn to ice and a 'you've been encased in ice'. I think that's what happened to my very first adventurer ever...
But the scariest was definetly when I managed to get my second ever adventurer to a cave for the very first time and started looking for that minotaur or something. What I ran into was I capital S... So I quickly looked it in the wiki and decided to run away just to get the 'You've been spotted' message followed by X pages of announcements of being killed by a GCS...
That was fun! :D
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Skeletal fish.
They're fucking hardcore.
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no matter how many evil seas or rivers i embark on i never get the skeletal fish. i really wanted to be beating off skeletal sharks and zombie whales, but ive never met any yet. only ever get zombie hairy marmots and goats and things.
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A zombie titan. I had no trouble with his skeletal beast-men, but I staggered into his section of the caves and discovered one very important fact; Zitans can make a full steel plated, master axe wielding, dwarven adventurer their bitch without even trying. :(
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(http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr75/ToonyMan93/AGHThepainofthelefthand.png)
(http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr75/ToonyMan93/Aghthepainofthelefthand22.png)
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You right handed? Don't need lefty for anything anyway.
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I then procedded to whack a cougar with my left hand before it got annoyed and killed me.
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Of the Megabeasts the most dangerous is between the Dragon and the Bronze collosus.
I will go with the Bronze Collosus being the most dangerous (except in world generation...)
Of the Semimegabeasts Ill go with the Giant
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Bronze colossus, dragons I find to be really easy once your shielding is at a high enough level, bronze colossuses on the other hand can just rip the thing out of your hand without even trying. :(
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I then procedded to whack a cougar with my left hand before it got annoyed and killed me.
I choked two cougars and a tiger (I think) with one of my own kobold chunks once. Next one got me, though.
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eventually we need a tag that lets us put bits back on.
THen when you chop off the Zitans arm with your steel axe? only useful until he picks it up and puts it back on.
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lets us put bits back on
Only if you can attach bits from other creatures, thus turning yourself into an ever-tortured abomination of dragon wings, demon tentacles, and dozens of GCS legs.
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Only if you can attach bits from other creatures, thus turning yourself into an ever-tortured abomination of dragon wings, demon tentacles, and dozens of GCS legs.
For some reason, all I can think of right now is the evil(er) Ms Bitters from the Invader Zim halloween special...
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lets us put bits back on
Only if you can attach bits from other creatures, thus turning yourself into an ever-tortured abomination of dragon wings, demon tentacles, and dozens of GCS legs.
Only at a fort with the Mad Scientist noble ;)
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Mad Scientist? Thats a brilliant idea!
Oh god. A Mad Scientist themed Community fortress! That'd be awesome.
Awesome.
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Mad Wizards, rather.
# CONTROL A WIZARD ENTITY: Not just one of those guys that backs up the team and shoots fireballs, but run something more like a dwarven outpost and construct your own multilevel tower or other such dwelling. This could include adventure style elements where your wizard is engaged in various activities, as well as larger scale army battles and so on. Randomized creatures could also be introduced as you create your minions, and they should be able to breed and expand outward, perhaps becoming a playable race in either adventure or civilization modes. Related to Bloat134, Bloat147, PowerGoal58 and PowerGoal60.
Carry on.
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bah. more like one of the proposed Necromancer-style ideas that have floated around.
Fireballs. bah. Dwarves make fireballs out of raw materials. who needs wizards?
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toady also has more dev notes about worldgen wizards creating their own creatures as minions to serve them, who over time become races in their own right, who build towns and elect leaders and wage wars, and may be playable in adventure mode. i think i saw this mentioned in an interview where he was asked about other games with completely randomized creatures, and he said he like having a stock world, but that wizards minion races could add that random interest.
having control over this as a player would be really great, as people in this thread have already described their desire to turn themselves into many legged winged fanged poisonous swimming flying fire breathing monstrosities. coupled with turning the citizens of an abandoned fort as an entity capable of influencing world events...
so, we could be seeing some pretty interesting random creatures and races being thrown up in the distant future.
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Alternately: Skeletal Giant eagle.
YOU CAN'T BREAK BONES WITH BOLTS.
Wait... wait. How the hell do they fly without feathers?
Oh yeah, a wizard did it, sorry.
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i really wanted to be beating off skeletal sharks and zombie whales, but ive never met any yet.
...I won't say it. I swear I won't ask.
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i really wanted to be beating off skeletal sharks and zombie whales, but ive never met any yet.
...I won't say it. I swear I won't ask.
Yeah, don't. That would be totally wrong...and stuff.
Heh.
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They fly via the power of pure dwarf-demolishing EVIL!
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Guards, I tend to throw live turtles at them.
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And then you jump and stomp on their heads?