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Title: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 28, 2008, 12:46:23 am
I really don't understand the concept... Armpit hair is not only ugly... but it has a bad reaction to deoderant causing it to flake off easily and even not apply properly. (Id also suspect that not having armpit hair would make non-gel deoderants last longer). It is also something no one is actually supposed to be able to see...

So why arn't guys supposed to shave their Armpits? I really don't understand the concept... It isn't like "Socks with Sandles" where it looks odd (I don't wear sandles because I can't wear socks with them...).

Please fill me in to this deeply kept manly secret that alludes me.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Duke 2.0 on December 28, 2008, 12:57:13 am

 Just one of those things us guys think attracts the ladies but really turns them off unless they happen to have a particularly rare fetish.

 Like beards. Shocked the hell out of me when I found that one out.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Dasleah on December 28, 2008, 12:58:23 am
I never realised that there was a rule against it. If you need to do it, do it - if you get shit from people about doing it, just say you're a swimmer. That, or stop caring about the stupid things people say.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Creamcorn on December 28, 2008, 01:03:46 am
 :-X Armpit hair is really nasty imo, especially when it's all wiry, and sticks out when a guy lifts his arm, gross.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Frelock on December 28, 2008, 01:21:46 am
Theoretically speaking, high amounts of body hair indicate a high amount of testosterone.  As a high level of testosterone is desirable in a mate, a male with more body hair more often is chosen for his supposedly greater ability to breed.  In the words of my German Civilization teacher: "Who would the woman want?  The clean but boring scholar, or the wild hairy satyr of the forest?"  Evidently, most women throughout history would have gone for the satyr if they were looking for physical pleasure.  Body hair really only went out of fashion a few hundred years ago (if that).  Long ago, it was all about the beards and other hair (Romans and far eastern cultures excepted).

So, in sum, it's a "manly" tradition which stays with us from the good ol' days.  Standards of beauty have changed, somewhat, and body hair is now moderately obsolete (unless, of course, you're like me and are too lazy to shave :P).

Also, I should point out here that everything is a matter of personal preference.  The statements made above are Theoretical only, and by no means conclusive of humans as a species.  I'm only talking about cultural trends here, not whether it will work for you as an individual.  Do as you will.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: PTTG?? on December 28, 2008, 01:26:24 am
...The clean but boring scholar, or the wild hairy satyr of the forest?...
Of those two categories, isn't it odd that DF's players are of one type, and it's characters are of the other?
Except, of course, Elves.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: KaelGotDwarves on December 28, 2008, 01:29:24 am
Depends really.

You can't lump all females(or people) together. Some love hair and some don't, just like how some love beards and chest hair and some don't.

I know women who prefer everything shaved, chest, legs, pubes, etc - because it's all nice and soft when you get intimate.

Many merely like things trimmed and under control (not gross and everywhere).

Some girls love the manly mane everywhere  ::)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Duke 2.0 on December 28, 2008, 01:32:20 am

 My generalizations are to be taken with a grain of salt. While such girls do exist, all of the ones I know(More than you think!) have answered my questions on the matter.

 
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on December 28, 2008, 01:42:28 am
Hair shows that you are a man, its dosent matter if its attractive or not. Women dont grow beards (normaly) and have less hair then men, so obviously unless your some sort of woman(or a swimmer) then you should have plenty of hair.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 28, 2008, 01:51:14 am
Hair shows that you are a man, its dosent matter if its attractive or not. Women dont grow beards (normaly) and have less hair then men, so obviously unless your some sort of woman(or a swimmer) then you should have plenty of hair.

Then why does facial not count? (which to admit... I kinda want to wax/pluck off... Which oddly is ALSO considered "Not something a male should do" unless I guess... I am gay (Im not)... but that is due to unfair steriotypes)

I think I just said a convo killer
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on December 28, 2008, 02:19:29 am
Hair shows that you are a man, its dosent matter if its attractive or not. Women dont grow beards (normaly) and have less hair then men, so obviously unless your some sort of woman(or a swimmer) then you should have plenty of hair.

Then why does facial not count? (which to admit... I kinda want to wax/pluck off... Which oddly is ALSO considered "Not something a male should do" unless I guess... I am gay (Im not)... but that is due to unfair steriotypes)

I think I just said a convo killer
I think all hair counts, that is. Except for the hair on your head.(err, you know. regular hair)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 28, 2008, 04:10:45 am

 Just one of those things us guys think attracts the ladies but really turns them off unless they happen to have a particularly rare fetish.

 Like beards. Shocked the hell out of me when I found that one out.

o_O Most of the girls I know approve of my beard. Huh.

Also, trichitillomania = great reason to get rid of armpit hair. Or pubic hair for that matter.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Kagus on December 28, 2008, 09:11:20 am
There are no rules regarding hair, only personal preference.  Yours and theirs.

I know people who are disgusted by bodily hair, and others who are equally turned off by a lack thereof.  It is impossible to appease everybody, so just do what you want to do.  Eventually you'll find someone who wants you for how you like being, which means you just hit the jackpot.


Me, I'm a hairy bastard.  I have hair in places dogs shouldn't have hair.  You can tie braids in my armpit hair, and small animals sometimes get lost in the forest of my nether regions.  I won't say I particularly like it, but I've done something not everyone here has.  I tried shaving it off.

That was hell.  It took me ages to shave off my armpit and chest hair, and I used up an insane amount of shaving cream.  Afterwards, I looked like an underage alien.  Not quite the effect I was hoping for (tip: I wouldn't recommend shaving off your chest/stomach hair unless you have well-defined musculature).

The weeks after that were downright nasty.  My armpits smelled worse than before, my shirts became itching, burning hell due to the stubble (which was too small to shave off fully), and I couldn't bear to take my shirt off due to the ridiculous appearance.

I'm definitely not doing that again.


If you want to have a hair-free body, be prepared to maintain the upkeep.  You'll need to wax and shave regularly, and you'll also have to deal with the cruel joke that is hair's response to regular removal (it grows faster the more you shave).  I can't bring myself to do it, but then again I'm not particularly bothered by my hair.


I shave my facial hair though.  That's just because I prefer a clean-shaven appearance or light stubble over a full beard.  At least on my body.


So, really, do whatever you damn well want.  People who try to put rules and standards on style and appearance are not worth listening to.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: I3erent on December 28, 2008, 10:20:53 am
Is it bad to shave your nuts?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 28, 2008, 02:30:08 pm
Well mostly I want to shave my armpits because it always has a bad reaction to my deoderant... so... yeah...

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Is it bad to shave your nuts?

The odd thing... is that there is an implication that someone would see...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Kagus on December 28, 2008, 02:37:29 pm
I use a deodorant that has absolutely no problem with my armpit hair.  It's long lasting, 100% natural, cheap as hell, and can knock out the most powerfully odorous pits even without cleaning them beforehand.


I am, of course, talking about food-grade white vinegar.


Wet your hands with it (or a paper towel, if you prefer), wipe your pits, and you're done.  They'll smell seriously weird for a minute or so (two at most), and then be completely odorless.  Lasts for just about the whole day if you don't do anything particularly sweaty (work out or get nervous), and several hours if you do.  And if you decide to discontinue using it as your deodorant, you can still use if for cooking.  Nifty stuff.


Is it bad to shave your nuts?

Do this, and your life will be a living hell for the next few weeks.  Don't even think about it.  If you get to the point where someone will be looking at your balls, I don't think style will have all that much of an effect anyways.

Not worth it in any way.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Salmeuk on December 28, 2008, 03:36:53 pm
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Is it bad to shave your nuts?

Speaking from personal experience, yes.

Unless you plan on doing every day for the rest of your life, because as Kagus previously stated, hair growing back in is a bitch.

In the crotch region, life = hell, and you try anything to get rid of the burning/itching.

I think I'll stop with the descriptions for the sake of any females listening in.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: I3erent on December 28, 2008, 08:01:39 pm
Actually its the pubes proper you dont want to shave all the way off (unless you have crabs) the balls dont get itchy if you shave em,  but ingrown hairs and itching are bad if you go all crazy and shave the pubes to the skin.  Try an electric clipper with like a 1 or 2 clip to get that nice trim look without the gayness and itching of a clean shave.  Your women will appreciate the trim when she............YEah...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: umiman on December 28, 2008, 08:04:25 pm
That information about not shaving your balls is nice information...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Strife26 on December 28, 2008, 08:11:27 pm
Time for a thread-redirection!

Vinegar really is a nice tool for a lot of stuff. I use it as an air freshener.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their balls?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on December 28, 2008, 08:19:04 pm
Time for a thread-redirection!

Vinegar really is a nice tool for a lot of stuff. I use it as an air freshener.
I cant really see any good use for vinegar, I heard if you drink too much of it at one time it can erode your throut pretty bad.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 28, 2008, 11:17:58 pm
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I heard if you drink too much of it at one time it can erode your throut pretty bad.

Yeah but if you did drink it upright... Id be impressed.

On a side note: I heard washing your hands with Table salt can get rid of Onion smell
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 28, 2008, 11:27:03 pm
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I heard if you drink too much of it at one time it can erode your throut pretty bad.

Yeah but if you did drink it upright... Id be impressed.

On a side note: I heard washing your hands with Table salt can get rid of Onion smell
Another thread direction! (my turn)

GIANT BEWBS!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: JoshuaFH on December 28, 2008, 11:28:51 pm
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I heard if you drink too much of it at one time it can erode your throut pretty bad.

Yeah but if you did drink it upright... Id be impressed.

On a side note: I heard washing your hands with Table salt can get rid of Onion smell
Another thread direction! (my turn)

GIANT BEWBS!

Are actually quite cumbersome, and can damage one's quality of life.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 28, 2008, 11:37:37 pm
Hmm I guess after the earlier derailment ended (Since we took the "Balls" statement seriously)... someone else tried a more dirrect approach.

It is nice to know that people still burgal topics :D

Ohh wait... no it isn't... Make your own nonsense topic!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Kagus on December 29, 2008, 07:39:16 am
Ohh wait... no it isn't... Make your own nonsense topic!

Or, alternatively, don't.  Use one that's already available, we do not need any more.


Also, oversized breasts can also be a distinct turn-off.  There's an upper limit to that particular size-sexiness ratio.

And vinegar is not supposed to go down your throat, it's supposed to be applied to armpits and pennies.  You might be able to use it as a mouthwash, but I generally prefer Hydrogen Peroxide for that.  Gives a nice little tingle.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 29, 2008, 12:21:38 pm
I use vinegar for my rat's cage. makes em smeel all salty n stuff.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 29, 2008, 06:08:56 pm
I use vinegar for my rat's cage. makes em smeel all salty n stuff.

Oddly for someone with a Cheese Avatar this makes sense... Though I don't know how many cheeses use Brine
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 29, 2008, 07:40:49 pm
Brine? I use vinegar!

Brine is a saltwater, mixed with various nutrients and sodium chloride.

Vinegar is..... well vinegar.

Check dis shiz out!
http://theheretik.typepad.com/the_heretik/images/karl_rove_rat_071705_heretik_1.jpg
...kind of what one of my rats looks like.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Fishersalwaysdie on December 29, 2008, 08:34:47 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Brown Jenkin....
And I wanted to sleep... Damn youuuuuuuuuuuu...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Jude on December 30, 2008, 06:40:19 pm
Theoretically speaking, high amounts of body hair indicate a high amount of testosterone.  As a high level of testosterone is desirable in a mate, a male with more body hair more often is chosen for his supposedly greater ability to breed.  In the words of my German Civilization teacher: "Who would the woman want?  The clean but boring scholar, or the wild hairy satyr of the forest?"  Evidently, most women throughout history would have gone for the satyr if they were looking for physical pleasure.  Body hair really only went out of fashion a few hundred years ago (if that).  Long ago, it was all about the beards and other hair (Romans and far eastern cultures excepted).

So, in sum, it's a "manly" tradition which stays with us from the good ol' days.  Standards of beauty have changed, somewhat, and body hair is now moderately obsolete (unless, of course, you're like me and are too lazy to shave :P).

Also, I should point out here that everything is a matter of personal preference.  The statements made above are Theoretical only, and by no means conclusive of humans as a species.  I'm only talking about cultural trends here, not whether it will work for you as an individual.  Do as you will.

Actually, it's more likely that she'd want to pair bond with the one who seems stable and likely to dedicate his resources to raising children (maybe the clean cut one) and, during the right time of the month, want to go around and bang the hairy one for his good genes.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 30, 2008, 06:59:24 pm
ew.....
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Kagus on December 30, 2008, 07:25:39 pm
Monogamy is unnatural behaviour.  Our basic desire is essentially a one-sided relationship, where we share ourselves with as many partners as possible, and all our partners are dedicated only to us.

Has to do with meta-survival instinct.  Should really have died out at the 6,000,000,000 mark, but it's still€ in there. 

Some people try to bring up cases of monogamy in other animals, most popularly swans.  Truth is, although swans will bond with one mate for life, they'll screw around with every other bird on the block when that partner's not around.


But that's straying into dangerous territory, let's keep to body hair and its effect on a person's hypothetical sex life.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Jude on December 31, 2008, 12:38:17 am
Monogamy is unnatural behaviour.
"Unnatural" sets off major alarm bells in my evolutionary psychology perspective
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Our basic desire is essentially a one-sided relationship, where we share ourselves with as many partners as possible, and all our partners are dedicated only to us.
Not necessarily
You may have noticed that people have this emotion that makes them want to devote themselves to one person for the rest of their lives and they do it
Natural selection surely wasnt' so clumsy as to make us all a bunch of hedonists with no inhibitions - something else was apparently more effective

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Has to do with meta-survival instinct.  Should really have died out at the 6,000,000,000 mark, but it's still€ in there. 
There is no generalized survival instinct; for natural selection to create such a thing would be like programming a chess-playing computer program with the instructions "make good moves" and "win the game" and nothing else

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Some people try to bring up cases of monogamy in other animals, most popularly swans.  Truth is, although swans will bond with one mate for life, they'll screw around with every other bird on the block when that partner's not around.
Some animals are polygamous and others are monogamous and others are both depending on circumstances (including humans)
It all depends how their lifestyles developed and what turned out to be the most effective strategy for reproducing among them
Generalizations like that usually turn out wrong...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Vactor on December 31, 2008, 01:05:33 am
just thought i'd throw out a few parcels of advice, If you do decide to remove hair beyond your face, I strongly reccommend investing in an electric clipper, You'll save yourself a mess with shaving cream, the only need for using a razor is in instances like your face, where the smallest of stubble is noticeable.  As far as male groin shaving goes, i'd advise to trim, not shave.  (armpits come in at this point too) one of the benefits of having hair in your groin and armpits is that the hairs act as a buffer so that your skin isn't rubbing against skin.  If you remove all of the hair your skin will cleave and chafe.

trimming however is quite comfortable.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Jude on December 31, 2008, 11:30:56 am
As long as I don't get a hairy back I'm happy

I think I'm good on that front, genetically
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on December 31, 2008, 12:48:02 pm
In some instances Poligamy actually formed after a long period of Monogamy (or rather where Polygamy previously never existed)... Why? because Women weren't objects before.

Polygamy is often a method to ensure that a person can collect a lot of dowry and/or possibly a lot of female servants. (Ignoring perverted implications).

I don't see Polygamy being used often in my studies as a method to devote yourself entirely to multiple partners very often except as an exception within the system. It sometimes is an alternative to divorce as well in that if you suddenly don't find that you can stand your wife, marry again! then simply move your old wife's status as "Out of favor".

I am not going to point any fingers... (though no one will know what I am refering to)

Polygamy to me sounds like an invention that seems to come about upon the occurance of a sedementary lifestyle. (which is a major factor)

Of course I am HARDLY a historian... and if I was this would be my weakest area of study. So honestly... do NOT brag about this information I am saying as I am likely incorrect.

Ps. Sorry about the spelling.

How do you even shave your back? I am flexable enough to do it... but everyone else I know? Heck no.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: umiman on December 31, 2008, 03:12:29 pm
I cry bullshit on Neonivek being flexible enough to shave his back. Proof or begone with thee.

Anyway, I have no clue how to use a razor. I usually use scissors or lighters. Sometimes I use construction tape because it's easier. Don't use sandpaper... it doesn't really work and you'll be in agony.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Jude on December 31, 2008, 04:54:07 pm
Polygamy (polygyny to be specific) occurs mainly in societies where there's a lot of inequality in the distribution of wealth

it's (in terms of reproductive fitness) generally a preferable solution for the men who have the resources, for obvious reasons, albeit not for the other ones

for the women, it's generally the optimal solution as well; it could well be better (in terms of reproductive fitness, again) to be the third or fourth wife of a king than the first wife of a poor peasant who can barely keep himself fed, much less a wife and kids.

When wealth is more equally distributed, people tend to pair off, although there are plenty of exceptions to this, and the rich tend to have a wife and a mistress, for example. Whether you consider this polygamy or not depends whether you define it by technical marriage or by actual sexual practices.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 31, 2008, 06:33:09 pm
Why are we seriously discussing something totally out of the realms of what was origanally intended?

Its like we murdered and raped this thread, and then turned into a frankenstine monster for our own, deliciously evil purposes.

....Unless I skipped the brick here.  :-\
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: JoshuaFH on December 31, 2008, 06:54:45 pm
Why are we seriously discussing something totally out of the realms of what was origanally intended?

Its like we murdered and raped this thread, and then turned into a frankenstine monster for our own, deliciously evil purposes.

....Unless I skipped the brick here.  :-\

Would you prefer that a separate thread be made, named "Monogamy or Polygamy: a history of sexual practices"?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on December 31, 2008, 07:02:39 pm
Yes pl0x.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 01:32:42 am
Well it depends whether or not we consider Marriage the begin all and end all of sex.

Warning: Graphic language ahead

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Nathiuz on January 01, 2009, 02:28:52 am
(Romans excepted).


Those damn barbarians trying to taint our Roman way of life!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Frelock on January 01, 2009, 12:49:11 pm
Somewhat off-topic semi-rant
(Romans excepted).
Those damn barbarians trying to taint our Roman way of life!

I was not referring to roman sexual practices or orientations, I was referring to their preference to go clean-shaven, verses the traditional barbarian beards.  Hence why I also included far-eastern peoples.  If I was making a more complete list, I would have also included African tribes, Asian-Pacific peoples, Native Americans of all types...Actually, most of the world save for Europe and the Mid-East.  Perhaps my point was not as valid as I originally thought.

"I say, Blackadder, it seems that there's a large, orange hedge moving towards us."
"Oh, that's not a hedge; that's the scots."
"Continuarte"
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on January 01, 2009, 12:59:41 pm
Try an electric clipper with like a 1 or 2 clip to get that nice trim look without the gayness and itching of a clean shave. 

This is like the only good advice so far.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 02:47:22 pm
How does an electric clipper differ from an electric shaver?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on January 01, 2009, 02:49:37 pm
How does an electric clipper differ from an electric shaver?

1. Greater ability to tackle thick clumps of hair.  Imagine trying to shave a full head of hair with a shaver.
2. "Guards" that attach to the clippers so that you can leave a certain length of hair behind.  1 and 2 mean 1/8 and 2/8 of an inch.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 03:24:16 pm
but don't most shavers come with sheers now?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Fenrir on January 01, 2009, 03:32:53 pm
You humans and your "shaving". I don't know how you can stand not being covered in fur, and you want to trim what little hair you have? You'll all freeze to death.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: woose1 on January 01, 2009, 03:43:37 pm
You humans and your "shaving". I don't know how you can stand not being covered in fur, and you want to trim what little hair you have? You'll all freeze to death.
Thats why we have you.

Bah-dum tish!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on January 01, 2009, 03:52:10 pm
but don't most shavers come with sheers now?

Yes, but scissors are slower and more difficult to use, especially if you're trying to achieve a uniform length -- clippers are extremely fast at buzz cuts, etc.  Typically you'll want to have both so you can buzz the sides/back and scissor the top and bangs or whatever.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on January 01, 2009, 04:24:41 pm
Well it depends whether or not we consider Marriage the begin all and end all of sex.

Warning: Graphic language ahead

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NO, ALL romans and greeks were gay. They had sex with men, if you had sex with a man and someone asked you if you were gay and you said "Well, it was just sex" That would make you gay. The only reason they even had sex with women was to keep their numbers up. Thus, if men could have children then they would all be gay without argument.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 04:29:58 pm
It depends on your definition Doom. Is Sex just Sex?

Also by Sheers... I am refering to something that kinda looks like a Trimmer except the blades can be seen or soemthing like that... Electric and all that. I use it to trim sideburns
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on January 01, 2009, 04:36:15 pm
It depends on your definition Doom. Is Sex just Sex?
Of course sex is just sex, what else would sex be? Bread? I know for a fact that sex is not bread Neonivek, as for being gay.
being homosexual is having a prefrence for someone of the same gender, not having to do with if the sex "matters" or whatever.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 04:46:31 pm
Meh to this area of discussion. Don't read the spoiler

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What do you do if you don't want to use a Razor but you want a really close shave? I use the Electric Trimmers but they don't seem to work very well on fuzz.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Cthulhu on January 01, 2009, 05:29:18 pm
What does sweaty man-love have to do with shaving?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on January 01, 2009, 05:30:38 pm
Meh to this area of discussion. Don't read the spoiler

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Well mabey if you didnt make it so tempting...
You dont have to read my spoiler, but I should at least have the ablility to respond.
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What does sweaty man-love have to do with shaving?
I dont really know either, I just heard "the romans arent gay per se" or something like that and decided to awnser to that.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Neonivek on January 01, 2009, 06:34:57 pm
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any definition you use they still were

Uhhh... don't test me on this...

Anyhow Romans tie into this because of their strict "No Bodyhair" policy that excluded facial hair.

Interesting to not that modern depictions of Jesus are based on Roman (or possibly Greek) Art. So the real Jesus would look entirely different (though he would still have quite a beard and would probably also have long hair having died in his 30s I think)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Squeegy on January 01, 2009, 08:17:25 pm
I cry bullshit on Neonivek being flexible enough to shave his back. Proof or begone with thee.

I can do this too, and even hold hands with myself behind my back.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on January 01, 2009, 08:19:24 pm
I cry bullshit on Neonivek being flexible enough to shave his back. Proof or begone with thee.

I can do this too, and even hold hands with myself behind my back.
Humans grow hair on their backs? I sure havent heard of anything like that before. :-\
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: SolarShado on January 01, 2009, 08:28:35 pm
I cry bullshit on Neonivek being flexible enough to shave his back. Proof or begone with thee.

I can do this too, and even hold hands with myself behind my back.
I can't quite "hold hands with myself", but i can hook my fingers together (one arm up over my sholder and the other up from my back). Never tried shaving my back, but i'm not too hairy either so...
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on January 01, 2009, 08:30:09 pm
Humans grow hair on their backs? I sure havent heard of anything like that before. :-\

What country are you from?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Tormy on January 01, 2009, 08:34:04 pm
Well mostly I want to shave my armpits because it always has a bad reaction to my deoderant... so... yeah...

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Is it bad to shave your nuts?

The odd thing... is that there is an implication that someone would see...

Talk to this young lady also [random google picture  ;D]:
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Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Cthulhu on January 01, 2009, 10:35:03 pm
Well mostly I want to shave my armpits because it always has a bad reaction to my deoderant... so... yeah...

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Is it bad to shave your nuts?

The odd thing... is that there is an implication that someone would see...

Talk to this young lady also [random google picture  ;D]:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Well done, Tormy.  I'm dead.  I am physically dead.  That image caused my brain to explode inside my skull, and I am dead.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Vucar Fikodastesh on January 01, 2009, 11:16:13 pm
Strangely, i don't have a negative reaction to that picture at all. While it doesn't turn me on, her armpit hair looks kinda cute.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: cowofdoom78963 on January 01, 2009, 11:21:59 pm
Well mostly I want to shave my armpits because it always has a bad reaction to my deoderant... so... yeah...

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Is it bad to shave your nuts?

The odd thing... is that there is an implication that someone would see...

Talk to this young lady also [random google picture  ;D]:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

You looked through google for that? Certainly you went through hell and back for it, so I must comend you for that. Bravo, (golf claps)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Tormy on January 02, 2009, 08:12:03 am
Well mostly I want to shave my armpits because it always has a bad reaction to my deoderant... so... yeah...

Quote
Is it bad to shave your nuts?

The odd thing... is that there is an implication that someone would see...

Talk to this young lady also [random google picture  ;D]:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Well done, Tormy.  I'm dead.  I am physically dead.  That image caused my brain to explode inside my skull, and I am dead.


Hey, there’s always something good in bad...at least she doesn't have facial hair!  ;D
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: soup_alex on March 24, 2009, 12:07:19 am
Talk to this young lady also [random google picture  ;D]:
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I'm only slightly disturbed by the maiden's eyebrows.

Guys, I think some of us need to grow up a little here with regards to body hair, and in particular female body hair. Although it's perhaps not as useful today as it was once before, growing hair on your body (yes! even under the armpits! and yes! even if you're a girl!) is quite natural and nothing to be ashamed of (like farting, for example. Though we're conditioned to consider the scent of each others' rectums (recta?) repellent, not farting is ultimately more harmful to one's health).
Fair enough if you consider it important to shave for health reasons. Shaving the hair from one's body, legs or underarms for any other reason, to me, indicates vanity—and I can remember when vanity was not considered a virtue. Then again, I have my own peculiar code about "fashion" and "beauty" and conforming to others' standards. I am in the minority.


Pardon the threadomancy, if it can be considered as such. I have strong feelings about this subject (in case it evaded your notice).
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on March 24, 2009, 01:05:57 am
Though we're conditioned to consider the scent of each others' rectums (recta?) repellent,

I don't think that's conditioning.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Yanlin on March 24, 2009, 01:28:38 am
Mah rectum brings all the boys to the yard, they're all like, eww man.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: soup_alex on March 24, 2009, 02:31:00 am
Well, at least partially learned behaviour, I expect.

...I would like to make it known that I am not actually in any way attracted to the smell of arseholes, human or otherwise.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on March 24, 2009, 02:37:04 am
Well, at least partially learned behaviour, I expect.

...I would like to make it known that I am not actually in any way attracted to the smell of arseholes, human or otherwise.

Yeah, I was wondering exactly how peculiar your code is.

When you say that shaving for non-health reasons is vanity, are you including any form of hair trimming or removal?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: soup_alex on March 24, 2009, 02:54:47 am
When you say that shaving for non-health reasons is vanity, are you including any form of hair trimming or removal?
For example?
(As far as I can imagine, yes, hair trimming/removal for reasons other than health seems quite vain.)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on March 24, 2009, 03:01:14 am
For example?
(As far as I can imagine, yes, hair trimming/removal for reasons other than health seems quite vain.)

There's lots of practical reasons for keeping scalp hair short, plus I have yet to meet the person who likes to pick pubes out of their teeth.  Also the increased odor and lessened effectiveness of deoderants/antiperspirants associated with abundant armpit hair, although presenting no health risk, should be reason enough for men and women alike to get a decent trimmer.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Yanlin on March 24, 2009, 04:12:13 am
Not to mention the itch.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Kagus on March 24, 2009, 05:40:43 pm
It itches a hell of a lot more when it's just been shaved than when it's fully grown.  Also, there was no change in scent production when I shaved my pits, and I use a liquid deodorant that I can only assume is not affected by long hair.

But then again, that's not to say it's perfectly hygienic to have long hair either.  That's a lot of extra area for stuff to get caught in/stuck to.

It really, really only comes down to what the individual prefers.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Raz on March 25, 2009, 11:38:54 pm
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh
Brown Jenkin....
And I wanted to sleep... Damn youuuuuuuuuuuu...
Ha! Enjoy your voyage through the shapeless abyss! ;D
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 25, 2009, 11:56:13 pm
Fair enough if you consider it important to shave for health reasons. Shaving the hair from one's body, legs or underarms for any other reason, to me, indicates vanity—and I can remember when vanity was not considered a virtue. Then again, I have my own peculiar code about "fashion" and "beauty" and conforming to others' standards. I am in the minority.

But wouldn't someone choosing to leave hair there mean they'd just be conforming to your standards?

Also, for some reason, this sounds oddly like an excuse to be lazy about personal maintenance. Here's a good reason: Very few people like seeing a ridiculously hairy person. Is avoiding others' ire also vanity?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: eerr on March 26, 2009, 03:14:37 am
it's not about how much hair you have, but how you have hair that makes people tolerate alot.

when your lazy, people stop appreciating that you have alot of hair
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: soup_alex on March 26, 2009, 04:15:17 am
But wouldn't someone choosing to leave hair there mean they'd just be conforming to your standards?

Also, for some reason, this sounds oddly like an excuse to be lazy about personal maintenance. Here's a good reason: Very few people like seeing a ridiculously hairy person. Is avoiding others' ire also vanity?
Perhaps, but hair occurs ("normally", anyway) naturally. I think it's more a case of choosing to let one's hair grow than choosing to deliberately grow more hair. I don't think I'd enjoyed being "copied" in the way you suggest; other people "conforming to [my] standards", for purely aesthetic means, at least. I would be happy, however, if more people stopped caring so much about how they had to appear to other people (and how other people had to appear to them), especially from a gender-based perspective ("why aren't guys supposed to shave their armpits?", after all: equally, why are girls "supposed" to share theirs? and countless other sensible questions with ridiculous answers).

I'm not sure I would classify myself as "ridiculously hairy"! I would also think that the point at which hairiness becomes ridiculous, it could also be classified as dangerous to health.
I'm not sure what you're suggesting by "avoiding others' ire". I was bullied at school, I suppose, about the length of my hair, and am still (albeit rarely) subjected to comments and insults about it today; but this isn't my problem—more specifically, it's not my problem if some ignorant, backwards-thinking or fashion-led folk feel sufficiently offended by the hairs on my head to want to direct personal insults towards me. Now, if I felt threatened enough by others' aggression about hair (really, of all things?), if I really believed that not conforming to others' standards, would result in physical harm, I might be persuaded to lose some hair. However, this has not been the case, and in my experience the sort of people who would make it clear without solicitation that they find some aspect of your appearance to be distasteful, will likely try to find some other aspect of your self to be offended by should you attempt to "rectify" the first.


Addendum: I have trimmed/shaved/cut facial and head hair in the past when it was required by law (i.e. at secondary school, where a code of uniform was enforced) and where an "excessive" volume of hair would have potentially resulted in losing (or not gaining) a job... albeit reluctantly.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Techhead on March 27, 2009, 09:41:52 pm
I somehow felt compelled to post this at the mention of "ridiculously hairy", although a thumbnail was all I could find.
(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:4657OHHLzAUkWM:http://www.hareguu.com/downloads/04dtpic.jpg)
From the bizarre anime Hare+Guu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har%C3%A9%2BGuu).
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: soup_alex on March 27, 2009, 11:35:53 pm
From the bizarre anime Hare+Guu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Har%C3%A9%2BGuu).
Calling an anime "bizarre" is like saying that fire is "hot".

Looking at your pic, and having just rubbed one out to Vincent Price in another thread (not really), I feel compelled to post this:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/wanderingmoon/tob7.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: kotekzot on April 04, 2009, 09:32:28 am
shaving your armpits is a matter of courtesy during a warm season, unless your sweat and decaying bacteries smell like roses.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Wiles on April 04, 2009, 11:29:02 am
shaving your armpits is a matter of courtesy during a warm season, unless your sweat and decaying bacteries smell like roses.

If you have good hygiene it doesn't really make a huge difference.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: IndonesiaWarMinister on April 05, 2009, 06:51:31 am
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*Maybe NSFW* or not

That's what armpits should looks like, guys.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 05, 2009, 12:26:45 pm
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*Maybe NSFW* or not

That's what armpits should looks like, guys.

Our armpits should look like some anime chick? I'm sure the big googly eyes would freak out alot of people.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Yanlin on April 05, 2009, 12:59:24 pm
That is one disgusting armpit.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: umiman on April 06, 2009, 01:35:38 am
That's a strange sunburn.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Maggarg - Eater of chicke on April 06, 2009, 07:18:41 am
men don't shave armpits because it takes to much effort for no discernible gain.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Yanlin on April 07, 2009, 03:16:37 pm
Then why do girls do it?
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Navian on April 07, 2009, 05:10:02 pm
Generally, people of other gender will only remove hair on skin that they expose. Since modern culture has a double standard in terms of dress, it therefore has a corresponing double standard in terms of hygiene. A lot of men who do go shirtless do removal their body hair, but expectations are still lower, for the reason I mentioned.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: aklyatne on April 08, 2009, 06:05:09 pm
Armpit hair is actually kind of useful - it makes it much less slippery down there on a hot day, and if you're wearing deodorant, you're usually fine. 
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Dwarf on April 09, 2009, 10:00:38 am
Dunno, I shave. It's more of a 'scratchy' thing.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Wiles on April 09, 2009, 04:49:33 pm
Then why do girls do it?

Not all women do.

Those that do shave do it because it is part of their culture's notion of what is aesthetically pleasing.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Yanlin on April 10, 2009, 05:19:25 am
Right. I'm calling the liberal crime squad. This is unfair treatment of women. It violates female rights by being a double standard.

WE NEED A SLOGAN!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: JoshuaFH on April 10, 2009, 02:09:23 pm
This violates male rights by being a double standard too!

Masculinists, ASSEMBLE!
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: inaluct on April 10, 2009, 02:13:48 pm
A while ago, in a crowded place with a bunch of other teenagers (right before a competition-type thing) me and my friends got in a circle and cheered "ONE! TWO! THREE! MISOGYNY! YAAAAY!" There were actually other people who started cheering with us on the counting part, including some girls. When the girls heard what we were cheering about, they looked embarrassed and walked away.

It was great.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Footkerchief on April 10, 2009, 02:24:56 pm
Hi thread, just trimmed my armpit hair to a comfortable 1/8 inch and it feels great.  Y'all missin out.
Title: Re: Why Arn't guys supposed to shave their armpits?
Post by: Puck on April 11, 2009, 06:20:29 am
Free protip: never shave your balls and/or buttcrack 2 days before a looooong paintball day.

If you dont know why, you can find out by lining your boxers with sandpaper.

And shaved armpits have a longer timeframe before they start to stink. I cultivate hair everywhere and even listen to the musical "hair" (I really do) but my armpits get a shave every month or so. That's usually enough, as if I trained my hair there. because my beard grows a hell lot faster.

I think people should be a lot more .... practical than they should be vain. So when you know you gonna be out all day, and active too, and it will take 14 hours to your next shower, consider shaved armpits ;)

and yet another thing to add ! Guys, get a shaving knife. Best way to shave, really. Once you learned the proper way to shave with it, you just cant go back. It's fast, it's clean, it's efficient, stylish... you can shave a 3 day old beard with it, and you can shave urist mchairyface after 2 years of jail, no problem, at the same speed. And it's like instant meditation. Also, a sharp knife on your throat gets you awake in the morning real good, its better than coffee.