Aqizzar, you should write a book about your life working for UPS. You can get some awesome title like "Riding the Clock: The Story of My Life Carrying Other People's Crap," but better and more relevant.
Surely there's something beyond self-preservation that keeps 40% of the population from turning all Liberal Crime Squad on greater society at any given time.Find out why people go "postal" and compare it to anyone else who's simply disgruntled. They're missing something.
Sounds like a Steven King book.
A delivery boy for a package delivery company keeps the addresses of the houses of families that come off as too rich, and he comes back later in the night to kidnap with his van and eat them. Police reports describe a man of sturdy build and heavy jaw with squinty eyes.
Find out why people go "postal" and compare it to anyone else who's simply disgruntled. They're missing something.
Have you ever actually seen someone "postal"?
You talk about how bad your job is Aqizzar, but surely it must have it's good points?
The one thing I have learned (among many) is that some people honestly have no idea how to pack a box. Ideally, you pack it so that NOTHING moves around inside, and you make sure that it will survive the shipping process. Accidents do happen in shipping, but 7 times out of 10, damaged product is the fault of the person who packed it. >:(
I don't want to see what happens to the obscenely rich. I'm talking crucifications en masse.
That sounds ridiculous Torak.
Don't you think your animosity towards the wealthy is misplaced? The wealthy aren't inherently bad, and it is the wealthy people that pay your salary.
it is the wealthy people that pay your salary.No, it's business owners who pay you.
The Revolution WILL be televised.... and probably made into at least a
half dozen reality shows.... "Dancing with the Militiamen" "Survivor
Detroit" "Big Brother form San Quentin" "Trading Wives....for ammo
and food".
Haven't there been enough examples of Communist systems in the past to make us realize that mankind will never allow themselves to be put under it? The carrot is a better motivator than the stick.Start with a democracy and slowly take away their rights 'till they might as well be under a Communist system?
Haven't there been enough examples of Communist systems in the past to make us realize that mankind will never allow themselves to be put under it? The carrot is a better motivator than the stick.
Communes survive much better when they're voluntary.
Communes survive much better when they're voluntary.
And I read this as "Communes survive much better when they're volatile.
>.>
That being said, I don't want to see communism anytime soon either, but I'm afraid that closing my eyes to what is going on is a rather stupid course to achieve that end.
-(e)EP
There would need to be a bureau for every good and service, and these bureaus would have to communicate and cooperate quickly and efficiently, or the entire system falls apart. Without the knowledge that quality work will bring benefits, people will do the bare minimum required to get what everyone else gets.
As I see it, Warren Buffet is like Robin Hood in a suit. If you want to rebel against society in the most effective way, imitate him to the best of your ability.
There's a little saying. The harder the job, the less it pays.
There's a little saying. The harder the job, the less it pays.
Wouldn't it be great if anyone making over X each year had to be tested for political corruption? With a risk of losing their jobs?
Or at the very least, corperations found to be producing harmful products and faking studies that say they are harmless and then selling them to the general public for profit that they don't really need because they are RICH but want more money anyway, those should be fined all of their money and their executives forced to work in their own sweatshops for a few weeks.
Simple proof: today's economy. Everyone got screwed over not because we're a labour-focused economy, but rather a capital-based one. Incidentally, countries that support a large labour force suffered the least from the economic downturn but countries that support a large labour force also don't have basic amneties like say... clean water.
Adam Arvidsson. . "The ethical economy: Towards a post-capitalist theory of value. " Capital & Class 97 (2009): 13-29,179.
Abstract: Social production has risen on the agenda of the social sciences. Yet most observers have been reluctant to confront the question of the value of these practices. Instead they have mostly been characterised as 'free', 'common' or beyond value. This article argues that far from being free, social production abides to a particular value logic, an 'ethical economy' where value is related not to the input of labour time, but to the ability to give productive organisation to a diffuse connectivity or, which is the same thing, to transform weak ties into affectively significant strong ones. The article concludes that progressive politics should work with this new emerging value logic.
David H Autor. . "Explaining trends in wages, work, and occupations. " Chicago Fed Letter 1 Apr. 2009: 1-4.
Abstract: It is widely recognized that inequality of labor market earnings in the US has increased dramatically in recent decades. Over the course of more than three decades, wage growth was weak to nonexistent at the bottom of the distribution, strong at the top of the distribution, and modest in the middle. While real hourly earnings of workers within the bottom 30% of the earnings distribution rose by no more than 10 percentage points between 1973 and 2005, earnings of workers at the 90th percentile rose by more than 40 percentage points. Thus, the periods of 1973-1989 and 1989-2005 represent two distinct periods of rising inequality: the first one of diverging wages throughout the distribution and the second of polarizing wage growth. Employment polarization presents both challenges and opportunities for the US, as well as other industrialized economies. The rising productivity of highly educated workers is good news. But the growing importance of manual and service tasks presents a challenge.
Liu Heguang, Minoru Tada, Sun Dongsheng. "Changing patterns in comparative advantage for agricultural trade in East Asian countries. " China Agricultural Economic Review 1.2 (2009): 227-238.
Abstract: Economies in East Asia are at different development stages. Economic development has an impact on factor endowments and the intensities, then on the mode of agricultural trade. To examine the trade modes of these seven East Asian countries' agricultural products will give us some hints to understand the question how economic development impacts the changing patterns in comparative advantage (CA) of agricultural products. Therefore, this paper aims to test the question by using a four-quadrant method. Trade specialization coefficient is used to analyze the agricultural CA among aggregated agricultural products and two typical kinds of products: labor- and land-intensive agricultural products. Then a four-quadrant method is applied in this study, where trade specialization of agricultural products consists of 2D: labor-intensive and land-intensive. The study intends to test the changing routes of CA of agricultural products under the background of economic development and changing situation of factor endowments. The analysis result supports that economic development has impact on the trade mode of agricultural products. The four-quadrant method is firstly applied to analyze the changing pattern of agricultural products in East Asian countries. This study shows that the changing routes of CA of agricultural products will not limit to only one mode as found by current studies.
Nguyen Khanh Doanh, Yoon Heo. "Impacts of Trade Liberalisation Commitments on the Vietnamese Economy: A CGE Approach. " The World Economy 32.4 (2009): 606.
Abstract: This article quantifies the economic effects of tariff reduction following Vietnam's WTO accession. It differs from previous studies in several aspects. First, the model incorporates non-standard features of the Vietnamese economy (e.g. changes in the domestic tax system). Second, the model divides Vietnamese households into 10 groups, allowing for the assessment of household welfare and income distribution. Third, the model has been run employing the most up-to-date database available. The major findings are summarised as follows. First, Vietnam as a whole would benefit from trade liberalisation. Second, the overall gain would be accompanied by a redistribution of income and a moderate increase in inequality between the rich and the poor. Third, concerning sectoral output, export-oriented sectors, sectors with large shares of input in total imports, and those with increased domestic demands are likely to expand, whereas, in contrast, domestic-oriented sectors are likely to contract. Measures to increase labour mobility, target disadvantaged groups and areas, and further liberalise service sectors are recommended as the recipe for effective utilisation of integration, as well as a more equitable pattern of growth.
"World News: World Watch. " Wall Street Journal [New York, N.Y.] 28 Feb. 2009, Eastern edition: A.6.
Abstract: Newspaper article.
"Lithuania. " Oxford Economic Country Briefings : Lithuania 11 Feb. 2009: 1-5.
Abstract: Demographics. Example country of what I'm talking about.
I stand to gain nothing from attempting to appease you nor will I lose anything. Simply put, if you refuse to take steps to at least understand the case, then I won't bother attempting to dissuade your either.
Needs Citation/Elaboration.
Keep in mind that developing economies tend to be very dependent on the export of low value resources (mineral extraction/agriculture/fossil fuels.) Currency instability and reduced imports by developed economies thus can have a devastating economic effect.
Just want to dispute this point. Which workers are laid off in economic instability, farmers or secretarys? Miners or bankers? And what can we more do without, food or ipods? Houses or movies?It's not that people stop eating. It's that the price farmers get for food goes down due to changes in the exchange rate, even as consumers pay the same price.
Read Atlas Shrugged, by Ayn Rand, for a rationale that wealth in and of itself is not evil, but many of the pursuits of it are. Read about how producing something is good, and that it is also the goal of those capitalists that the real world loves to hate. Read about how picking yourself up, and DOING something with your live is way more moral than forcing others to support those who won't support themselves, through ignorance, greed, or whatever. I am no Objectivist, but the most important part, in my honest opinion, is the explanation that money is not evil. If you can read just one part, read that one. And maybe about how faith and force the the biggest sticks to beat honest producers over the head with. Surprising how many communists and anarchists would agree with that last sentence, eh?
But this one is a very difficult read for me. Rand suffers from verbal diarrhea. I get it, oppressive nationalization of other peoples' creations is akin to human sacrifice (ahem, "eat the rich"), you don't need to write another 20-page essay on it!
No, AIG and Fannie and Freddie Mac and all the other corrupt banks and other money movers don't directly kill people. They merely destroy people's mortgage's, causing people to lose their homes, wipe out savings and retirement funds, causing those people to work harder to earn back their hard earned money, while the executives who ruined the companies get bonuses paid with MY tax dollars.
If you want classless greed pick up a newspaper. Read about robberies and gang shootings and all that. As much as an excuse for class warfare that the AIG guys or Paris Hilton is, they aren't leaving anyone bleeding to death in a gutter.
Revolution is not idle talk. Crazy extremists call for it in the developed nations, sure. Crazy Facists, Anarchists, and Communists. Crazy will be crazy no matter who is in charge. The Left gets into a tizzy claiming the Right in America is sewing the seeds of it with all their gun talk and criticism of Obama. They think that Rush Limbaugh, Fred Phelps, the KKK, the Vatican, Fox News, any church without gay or women ministers and believe in the devil, anything that espouses personal responsibility, limited government, and things that scare Europeans are all the same beast. Just because they believe it, doesn't make it true. I am no racist, I do not murder gays, I won't force quadriplegics to go to work. Just like not all Left wingers favor nationalization of industries, disabling the military or police, or abortion-on-demand. Glenn Beck, right wing radio guy, believes that disenfranchisement of citizenry of all types, Left, Right, Bi, and Non Partisan will lead to revolution. He's just a glass half empty sort of guy about this subject.
You want to see a real nut who I would love to see his civil rights get trampled on over and over again. Google Alex Jones, Google FEMA Camps, check out prisonplanet.com. I am not worried about this 9/11 Truther starting the revolution, he's too busy making money off of the racket. I am worried about the posters to his websites, and the callers whenever he is featured on Coast-to-Coast AM, the late night conspiracy theory radio program. I don't think the Left or the Right would be glad for enough of these guys to get together with stuff that explodes.
Great Thread
Full disclosure: I am a social conservative, believe in the free market. I am a Kounter-Revolutionary 4 life after reading about the Archipelago. I'll be going to the camps eventually, lol