I wonder if I should have gotten a fortress setup and chosen the first child to hit adulthood, just to make the most of that.
Stay dwarfy, my friends.
I wonder if I should have gotten a fortress setup and chosen the first child to hit adulthood, just to make the most of that.
Stay dwarfy, my friends.
If you're going that route, I'd recommend choosing the first child to get a skill-enhancing strange mood.
Hm - it sounds like leveling the dwarf in all those skills at once might be inefficient. Wouldn't it be better to have him parked in one place, doing one thing at a time? Less walking-around time.
The hermit challenge with orcs is just a goddamn nightmare.No.
The hermit challenge with orcs is just a goddamn nightmare.No.
Just stones, mechanisms and long tunnels.
Slowly clearcutting the map now with other dwarves to have enough wood on hand to get the various wood skills. Carpenter, wood burner (gets lye), wood crafter, siege engineer, potash. That's 3,000 wood, minimum. Lots of trees...
I can always thin the orc numbers with a marksdwarf. I'll probably have at least 3 champions before I even start on military - and most of the mil training will be done by sparring.Orcs > Marksdwarf. "Lethal hits" are shrugged off with no fear, and they will quite literally. Fight. Until they die. No "Giving in to pain", they will fight until they are dead, or the marksdwarves are dead ( And if it's one it's a waste of a dwarf, trust me i tried just now. Epic fail. ) you got to remember, Once he is out of bolts. He will try to melee them, regardless of how suicidal it is. "Yeah, their swords are no match for my copper crossbow!". Marksdwarves should always be paired with melee, that's the results of my current fort. Twice i sent a marksdwarf ( Alone ) to fight an ambush. Twice the markswarf died horribly.
And thus lockable doors behind your archery station, so they can't charge emat all unless you decide legendarry hammer and masterwork steel crossbow are enough.
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That's a good plan. Except eventually, so many caravans will be lost, the elves and humans will get pretty pissed. I reckon you should have a 3 tile wide corridor, with a drawbridge ( With a massive moat underneath. ) that opens in the direction of the Trade Depot ( Therefore stopping arrows and etc. Not perfect but it's safer ).QuoteAnd thus lockable doors behind your archery station, so they can't charge emat all unless you decide legendarry hammer and masterwork steel crossbow are enough.
Actually, lockable doors in front of the archery station. I'm not trying to make the military part of this a challenge, I just want the bones, armor, and enough regular enemies to polish off some skills on.
I use a setup like this:Code: [Select]WWWWWWWWWWW
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A = Ammo quantum stockpile, Marksdwarf station
D = Door
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That passageway to the east is at least 50 tiles long - it extends over the top of the magma pipe and has a retractable bridge in the middle.
Once I lure orcs past the bridge, they start pathing to the doors. I can lock the doors and they'll walk right up and bump into them. They'll just mull around the depot getting shot at with no new place to path to. Once that group is wiped out, unlock the doors and the next set will path in.
I lose a lot of trade caravans that way, and sometimes need to lock in the liaison for a while, but with this setup I've had a single dwarf defend the fortress for two decades, and rack up around 1000 kills. With 3000 bolts at their feet, they drop Orcs like a machine gun nest. Truth be told, with all 3 stations manned with Champions, only a champion orc will make it to the door. The other benefit of the narrow hallway is the orcs get jammed up and by firing on the same z-level, almost every bolt will hit someone. There's a nice overlapping field of fire that crosses over right around the point where the dwarves start firing. It's brutally effective.
Once the siege breaks I usually have about 15 or so orcs still standing just out of range. I pull the drawbridge so they can't leave the area and send Morul in. Once they've stopped the siege commitment, the orcs generally avoid combat, so a well equipped and strong soldier should be able to take them.
Remember, before Morul can go into the military, he needs to have at least 50 legendary skills including armor, weapon, and strand extracting. He'll have unbeforeseen stats and he'll be walking in with masterwork adamantine weapons and armor. Since the orcs are slightly nerfed (closer to gobbos than the 0.3 orcs) I don't think it'll be a problem, and I'll have him avoid any ranged units.
Still, make a backup. It just takes one lucky shot for you to lose the most skilled dwarf known to man.
I fear you may run out of animals before he becomes a legendary ambusher, but your quest is a righteous one and I wish you luck.
If I may, I offer a suggestion regarding your potential hunting and animal training problem. Use cage traps on wild animals, but don't train them. Let them run loose in contained areas so that they breed and produce wild offspring. Then release a bunch of them at a time to train hunting, and then let them breed back again.
Provided you haven't run out of wildlife yet.
And I don't think you have to worry about Morul suddenly becoming an elite weapon user if he's training weapons through hunting. I think he will only be locked out of the civilian professions if you ever activate him while he's Great in at least one weapon.
I thought untamed animals generally didn't breed? I know that some do like cave crocs and giant cave swallows, but I don't recall wild surface animals ever reproducing.Tell that to the hippos of my last fortress.
My dwarves just all simultaneously crapped themselves.QuoteI thought untamed animals generally didn't breed? I know that some do like cave crocs and giant cave swallows, but I don't recall wild surface animals ever reproducing.Tell that to the hippos of my last fortress.
Urist McArchitect cancels Construct Building: Mauled to death by marauding hippos. Again.
Honestly, that fortress had hippos that would give birth to three or four more calfs every season. It became a serious problem for my FPS. Hipposplosion.
...Morul finally became both a legendary milker, but also a legendary cheese maker, each a rather rare achievement among dwarves.
Has Morul had any time to sit down and chat with his fellow dwarves?
well he doesnt get any better as ultra-mighty is the best strenght and so on and i think he have them maxed out...
No, not really. I tend to yank him off of breaks as well. He's competent in the social skills but that's it.
It's important to remember that altho' they are listed as maxed out, Toady has stated that they can keep improving invisibly beyond the max listed. Experience keeps accumulating.
This is epic.
Also, animal training should be extremely quick. Just set tame animal on repeat, and they'll constantly tame the same animal over and over, gaining skill about as quickly as wrestlers become legendary. Do you still need bins? Have him start forging aluminum bins; fucking tears through the Metalsmith ranks, and useful too!
I'm considering if I can mod anything to get fish dissection now that I've concluded I have no moghoppers.Gonna extract turtle wax?
I don't think you can add smelter reactions after worldgen, but I was going to try doing that. I should have thought of it before I started.You can't add them, but you can completely modify an existing one. Simply change the reaction that makes rose gold bars.
How about an "official" modded copy for the competition?
I propose that "strand + flux = raw adamantium" be the reaction modded in.
Faster than a Dwarven bullet,It's important to remember that altho' they are listed as maxed out, Toady has stated that they can keep improving invisibly beyond the max listed. Experience keeps accumulating.
If that's right, then he's well on his way to being 'Superdwarf'.
'Faster than a speeding bolt!' (Better than Perfectly Agile)
'More powerful than a buffed-up megabeast! (Better than Ultra Mighty)
'Able to leap tall...' er... maybe not.
But still, he's going to be zipping around the map at the speed of light, carrying a block of stone with each finger, and if anyone attacks him, the weapons will just bounce off...
This is epic...
He should be able to take on Megabeasts by himself by the end of it...
Kudos
This is epic...
He should be able to take on Megabeasts by himself by the end of it...
Kudos
Champions can easily take megabeasts solo. Even if they are damblock 100 or something. Reference: Nist Akath.
(Morul)'s not terribly happy losing his bed and getting constantly attacked...
3 tantrums and a dwarf snaps. Legendary thrower is impossible to have on a sane dwarf without DC.Depends on personality. I once locked a Countess Consort with the "Quick to anger" personality tag in a small unfinished room with a large supply of food. She threw repeated tantrums constantly for years without going mad. Not one long tantrum, not berserk, just repeated small tantrums and lots of throwing things and smashing furniture. I didn't think check to see what her throwing skill was after that. I've also had dwarves go melancholy without tantruming once.
Hah, dwarven hysterical bitch. ;-)3 tantrums and a dwarf snaps. Legendary thrower is impossible to have on a sane dwarf without DC.Depends on personality. I once locked a Countess Consort with the "Quick to anger" personality tag in a small unfinished room with a large supply of food. She threw repeated tantrums constantly for years without going mad. Not one long tantrum, not berserk, just repeated small tantrums and lots of throwing things and smashing furniture. I didn't think check to see what her throwing skill was after that. I've also had dwarves go melancholy without tantruming once.
Hah, dwarven hysterical bitch. ;-)The weird thing is, hysterical bitch she may have been, she was the longest-surviving noble in the fortress. I threw all the nobles in that fort in locked caves. All the others went melancholy after a bit, but she was still alive and tantruming years later. I suspect the frequent small joy she got from throwing and smashing things kept her mood from getting bad enough to go melancholy.
Are you forgetting plain old health care? make a legendary doctor as well.
I want to know your plan for Throwing - how many tantrums does it take to make Legendary? 8)
I'm only going to have him carry one because training shield can be very difficult (sometimes it's easy, sometimes damn near impossible) and I don't want him to ever not have a shield.Weird, my dwarves usually hit legendary shield user and armor user at the same time, I think it only took like a couple years, Course, they were off duty that whole time, wrestling. hoho.
Weird, my dwarves usually hit legendary shield user and armor user at the same time, I think it only took like a couple years, Course, they were off duty that whole time, wrestling. hoho.
Wha... my dwarves usually get shield pretty fast, and I have to wait a long time for armour because they never get hit.
Architecture could take quite some time, to design 600 trade depots will also put a strain on your recources
Architecture could take quite some time, to design 600 trade depots will also put a strain on your recources
Not really. 1800 stones = 42*42 area of stones. He'd probably want to use a macro for the designation.
Isn't dwarf companion able to get a better, true, reading of the stats?
Has he got legendary social skills yet?
Legendary in forty-one jobs translates into... what, around 360 attribute increases just from those jobs alone? Wait, there was an artifact in there so it should be somewhere around 370.
Then fart himself up to the sky and beat it into submission, where he gets the sun to be used in a masterwork thong to wear.This is a !!sun thong!!. All craftsdwarfship is of the highest quality. On the item is an image of blazing suns in sun. On the item is a depiction of Morul and the moon. The moon is making a plaintive gesture. Morul is laughing. It menaces with spikes of nuclear fission.
One orc siege is usually good for just about legendary from nothing if he takes it singlehandedly and I'll probably have him break two of them. It's pretty fast, and they need to be done anyway.
Never really see an impact from this one... less happy thoughts from sand bags he walks by?
5th Hematite, 228, Early Summer
Well, the days of tossing war dogs off a cliff are done. Morul is now a legendary animal caretaker...
LOL - so that's how it's done. Ah, the things they'll do for the love of animals.
Morul currently has 7 war dogs assigned to him, and they've all healed, so animal care does work, but it took 7 to get him to legendary.
Hmm, so I guess we were too impatient in declaring that animal care didn't work. Or the dogs healed of their own accord. Either way, good to know.
They healed pretty quick - the last one went from three red wounds and 2 yellow ones to no wound inside of two seasons, so I'm thinking it wasn't just them healing naturally.
If the dwarf is manager, then he has to also go make the item to fill it, I think the fastest way to get two with one stone is to put into the jobs que
10X make 30 Giant (metal) Serated Disks.
For each metal you have a lot of.
Then set him loose as the only weaponsmith.
This will get your metalsmithing, and those 300 disks will melt back down to 150 bars. It will also give him 3,000 points per metal type towards master manager.
He doesn't really care about anything anymore.
Why do all dwarves get this eventually? What does it mean?
But the manager gets extra experience in organising when the task gets done.
Spikes, corkscrews, and giant axes give the best return when melting. So you got it right.
Personally prefer the trap hall of doom, but whatever.
* His armor and weapons, of course. Why settle for merely masterwork adamantine when it could be decorated with strips of cow leather too?1: Sadly, armor can only be decorated with bone, I assume shell, and studded with metal.
* Make a gem window, then decorate it with every gem type.
Have you considered modding to make him able to get the "Legendary thrower"? You've used mods to make other impossible skills possible, so why not thrower too?
The best way to do it is to just flood your meeting room with depth 4 water. 1,2 won't do it, and any more will have them drown. Do you have a river, perchance?
Also flood your barracks. Best to do as a military dwarf. Like the social skills.
I say let him build a massive tomb for himself. A tomb made of soap, metal blocks, raw adamantine blocks (assuming you have a reverse extract strands reaction) and other things. Include a waterfall for mechanic and architect. Put in ropes for weaving, dyeing and clothesmaking. And so on, try to let him use every possible skill and add a masterpiece object made with every skill that couldn't be used in the construction.
Then let him destroy an entire orc siege while inside of it to mark the tomb with his military skills. (Perhaps do this in a particular level of the tomb and then seal it, letting the bones and blood remain there).
EDIT: Also, perhaps you should place a coffin for a good friend/lover of him in the tomb as well, to mark social skills.
With a mini-volcano inside of it?
Would there be some way to change the xp gained from something, or copy the throwing part of the tantrum text?Have you considered modding to make him able to get the "Legendary thrower"? You've used mods to make other impossible skills possible, so why not thrower too?
I'm open to suggestions, but I haven't found any way to do this yet.
You can get any skill in adventure mode with modding, even tracker, druid, or knife weilder; you just got to change what skill a weapon uses.you can also get knife wielding by swinging a dagger.
I suggest making several full suits of Adamantine armor, plate and chain, with Adamantine cloaks, tunics, trousers, and socks, with several sets of Adamantine weapons, and shields. Then go equip Morul in some of them, put them in a lead bin, and go get them, and Morul, as an adventurer.
Sounds like a plan. Make him haul, too. Make sure they are all masterpeices. No exceptional or worse allowed.
I need to think about what kind of grand suite to give him. It's most tempting to put it in the magma pipe.
Morul Cattenmat likes Brimstone, Billon, Claro opal, pearl, black bear bone, the color blue, mountains, chain mail, quivers and dogs for their loyalty. When possible, he prefers to consume strawberry wine. He absolutely detests fire snakes.
I should note that there is no vermin. Morul eliminated them all. And the pipe is tapped. I wussed out, turned off temp, and sent the miners in. My reason for that is that I don't think you can drain a pipe with a single tile tap, so my tap is 3 tiles wide. With temp on, I couldn't think of any way to achieve that.
His pipe geometry sucks, Wahad. I'm sure he would have done that.
You have to have 3 separate taps to do it normal. Make sure to wash that miner off before you turn temp back on.
Dig up to the last obsidian edge, then channel from above. Could be one tile wide, four tiles, even six tiles if you have the space for it.
Do you have legendary strand extracting?
If so, just screw it and do the infinite adamantine reaction.
Hah, you might want a lot of extra military, incase the HFS entails SoF.
Wait wait wait, there WAS HFS, right?
If he dies, can we hold a forum-wide funeral? :(Hah, you might want a lot of extra military, incase the HFS entails SoF.
Wait wait wait, there WAS HFS, right?
Yes, and I haven't unleashed anyone, but when I last played this site it tossed out a dozen+ SoF.
I was saving that for when Morul was fully trained up.
Forty types of awesome...
Will you upload a save before he gets military skills?
Will you upload a save before he gets military skills?
I'll upload two files in one package - pre-military, and post-.
And swimming is turning into a bit of a nightmare to do. As far as I can tell, you need to lock the person in the room and then flood it without drowning them. They simply won't path into a room with even 3/7 water.
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Another design for a swimming room. The + are doors, the dots floor, the #s wall and the spaces empty space. The left arrow is the intake. Fill the right room, lock the intake. Station someone inside the lower left room, lock the door. Open the lower right door. 4/7 water everywhere.Bah!
I just had to savescum when Morul teleported through a steel wall grate in the swimming room and fell in a chasm. Stupid bugs...
If you really want throwing, mod the skill on crossbow from hammer to throwing and beat orcs to death with it. Not sure how you can justify it but, you can gain any skill like that if there is no other way.
(Don't forget to make a masterwork adamantine backpack for him. He needs one, clearly.)
Do the pacifier and consoler skills go up just talking to people? I thought you had to get yelled at to get them.
We all know how he's going to die though...Quiet non-believer!
We all know how he's going to die though...
He lacks liar which I only ever see on children.
Make a weapon use the Liar skill?
Interpret that in character as you may...
A rocket launcher that shoots rocket lawnchairs that shoot flaming mouths that scream words filled with lies and deceit.Make a weapon use the Liar skill?
Interpret that in character as you may...
I'm putting that under the 3rd category of 'Make Morul Legendary, no matter the means or rationale'. So yes, a crossbow that shoots liar will be attempted.
Still tryinng to imagine that. Sounds awesome.Make a weapon use the Liar skill?
Interpret that in character as you may...
I'm putting that under the 3rd category of 'Make Morul Legendary, no matter the means or rationale'. So yes, a crossbow that shoots liar will be attempted.
You should really upload this map after you're done with him. So much fun can be had with a dwarf that über lolPay attention. He is already doing that. Twice.
New Quest: FILL AN ENTIRE F*CKING FORTRESS WITH ALL LEGENDARIES!
I might take on my solitary confinement challenge next, though.
Skills define the profession of a dwarf. So it doesn't matter at all where the skills come from - once he hits rank 15 he becomes a Hero and he's permanent military.
This is true, you can get legendary weapon skills without becoming a hero/champion, provided you have a way to train those weapons outside of military.Skills define the profession of a dwarf. So it doesn't matter at all where the skills come from - once he hits rank 15 he becomes a Hero and he's permanent military.
I will need to test it, but I seem to remember having hunters who were legendary marksdwarfs without becoming champions.
Ah - so a dwarf can be "eligible" to become a hero, but doesn't until he is Activated for the Military. Interesting distinction.
So our hero (small "h") Morul could become a legendary Marksdwarf without being locked out of civilian jobs.
Yes, my understanding is that activation for the military is a separate thing. Skills don't automatically draft someone. Once you activate them, it's permanent, however.Well actually, the activation isn't permanent unless they gain a weapon skill while activated.
So, if you get to level 25 in all weapon skills through painful tedious hunting, your reward will be the ability to activate AND deactivate the most effective dwarven fighter mathematically possible? :o
Yes, my understanding is that activation for the military is a separate thing. Skills don't automatically draft someone. Once you activate them, it's permanent, however.Well actually, the activation isn't permanent unless they gain a weapon skill while activated.
So, if you get to level 25 in all weapon skills through painful tedious hunting, your reward will be the ability to activate AND deactivate the most effective dwarven fighter mathematically possible? :oNo, as soon as you activate him, he becomes a champion.
That's good to know, but it might be difficult to get Morul around as a hunter. I suppose the 'lever assigned only to Morul connected to nothing outside the gates' might work for sieges.as long as he is not military and does not fight you can have him drafted all you want as long as you don't mind the unhappy thoughts ;D
That's good to know, but it might be difficult to get Morul around as a hunter. I suppose the 'lever assigned only to Morul connected to nothing outside the gates' might work for sieges.
You should give him the crappiest weapon for leveling up, so that it takes more than one strike to kill whatever he is hunting.
Basically he walks up to a horse, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a goat, touches it, and it dies. Walks up to a macaque, touches it, and it dies. He's not even gotten a stuck spear yet. Walks up to another horse, touches it, and it dies.
Not much progress. Life has seriously intervened but the fortress will have time to run today. Morul knocked the wild animal population down from ~500 to <100 and only got competent speardwarf to show for it. I drafted a new solider, took two of my champion marksdwarves and set them for wrestling as well as Morul and am trying to get the 4 of them to spar. So far nobody will spar with Morul, but it's only been a few weeks. The barracks level is finished and furniture is going in and I'm moving weapons and armor around. None of the other soldiers have any armor and I have a bunch of masterwork steel for them to get into once the hauling is done.
I haven't gotten around to making weak weapons, but that'll be easy enough - there's plenty of silver and wood.
You can't make your own weak weapons, they can only be bought from elves.
You can make bone/wood crossbows though, and without bolts he will use it as a weak hammer, which would be great for training hammerdwarf.
Dude, I could oufit most of my fort with 37 bars of silver.
This may sound like a really odd question, but is he off duty? Are the other dwarves off duty?
Archery at least should be fairly trivial to train so long as you have hostile targets. Each shot grants a significant amount of experience, and I don't believe strength has any impact on killing power for crossbows (and if it does, it really, really shouldn't). I seem to recall getting a champion marksdwarf just by cleaning out the contents of a cave river once.
And who knows how much further if he hadn't run outa hallway. Might have still been flying.
(He had gotten a light gray brain injury ages ago while hunting which hasn't healed yet. Sometimes they do, so we'll see...)
I do have a treat, though. The mace is all blunt force so we can get some sense of his striking ability:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
You need to figure out a way to trap the siege so that they can't run away from Morul. Maybe set up a system of drawbridges that rise up behind then.
I've played a game like this for the longest time. One dwarf trying to legendary every skill.
After some 16 years of playing I've got 7-8 levels in 20 or so skills and legendary in maybe 4.
And I just fixed Morul's brain injury to see if that would get him sparring - and sure enough it did.
Kinda cool process. I took out [THOUGHT] as Jim suggested, and everyone passed out and became winded, but the brain injury healed up before I could select him after unpausing. Saved, put [THOUGHT] back in, and after everyone woke up he went off to spar.
I think this is also a solution to the problem of champions claiming artifact items. When everyone passes out, they drop everything they were holding - including weapons/shields/etc. If you have your forbid settings done right, the artifacts will be forbidden when they hit the ground, so plan accordingly.
Kinda cool process. I took out [THOUGHT] as Jim suggested, and everyone passed out and became winded, but the brain injury healed up before I could select him after unpausing. Saved, put [THOUGHT] back in, and after everyone woke up he went off to spar.
"Morul Cattenmat Nentukmerseth Deg"
What does all that translate into exactly?
Morul needs to fight some Children of Armok megabeasts.
Then claim the Throne from Armok himself.
"Morul Cattenmat Nentukmerseth Deg"
What does all that translate into exactly?
Morul Channeledbent the Withered Luck
Have you tried dropping Morul down your dog injuring shaft and seeing how fast he heals yet?
I see Morul the Paratrooper in the near future.Orbital Insertion Trooper, more like.
I might need to take his bedrooms away (he has two - he and his wife each had one before they got married) - that's usually where he goes when he's on break. Remember, he dislikes intellectual conversations.
The trick is getting Morul to idle where other dwarves are idling. If you made the only meeting zone in the fortress be in Morul's bedroom, that would probably do the trick. Creative, and I wish I'd thought of it.I might need to take his bedrooms away (he has two - he and his wife each had one before they got married) - that's usually where he goes when he's on break. Remember, he dislikes intellectual conversations.
Couldn't you just put a statue in each bedroom and designate it as a sculpture garden?
The trick is getting Morul to idle where other dwarves are idling. If you made the only meeting zone in the fortress be in Morul's bedroom, that would probably do the trick. Creative, and I wish I'd thought of it.
And that's what I just did. I'm going to be really suspicious if his wife gets pregnant after having 40-odd dwarves and pets there to observe.
I'd say the moral of the story is that no matter how hard the journey, how difficult the quest, how impossible the mission, it's worth it if you get to throw an orc 155 tiles and splatter him against the wall at the end.Pretty soon I bet you'll see him splatter orcs right next to him without flying anywhere.
I'd say the moral of the story is that no matter how hard the journey, how difficult the quest, how impossible the mission, it's worth it if you get to throw an orc 155 tiles and splatter him against the wall at the end.Pretty soon I bet you'll see him splatter orcs right next to him without flying anywhere.
But that's just an optical illusion: in fact he'll send orcs flying through the 6th dimension and they will come right back to the same spot at the sime time instantaneously.
If this game could simulate to the particle level, Morul would smash those into even smaller pieces.
What I'm trying to say is that Morul is now stronger than the game's physics. Don't be surprised if he starts time traveling.
The problem is that the orcs just aren't showing up in numbers. They used to siege 5 squads 2x a year and now I'm lucky to see 3 squads once. Sparring is working again, so I'm going to give it some time and see how it plays out.
on the sieges, are you still making lots of expensive things? maybe part of sieges is from overall value and some is from newly created value?
236 - 202 = 34 yearsActually, that was when he got his first legendary.
You still gotta level up the throwing! Make him ANGRY!
Ironblood vs Morul
Natural badassery vs intense lifetime training
Nothing will survive.
Really though, talk about your fortress destroying tantrums; I'm betting Morul would take out the entire military without breaking a sweat before he calms down.
sorry for this but.... Who the hell is ironblood?!
[ITEM_WEAPON:ITEM_WEAPON_CRUMPET]
[NAME:crumpet:crumpets]
[DAMAGE:600:BLUDGEON]
[CRIT_BOOST:10]
[WEIGHT:3]
[SKILL:HAMMER]
[MINIMUM_SIZE:4]
[MATERIAL_SIZE:1]A morul - Ironblood showdown could end in 3 ways:
3: Both are simply immortal, playing tennis with each other as the balls for the rest of eternity. All copies of dwarf fortress, EVERYWHERE, would be shocked so badly that whatever they are installed on would explode violently*
Morul just got done sparring with one of the other champions with a silver mace in one hand and a barrel of sunshine in the other.
"Sure, we can fight. Do I have to put down my beer first? No? Ok, cool."
I'm hoping for a siege this season. It's been a while.
Morul just got done sparring with one of the other champions with a silver mace in one hand and a barrel of sunshine in the other.
"Sure, we can fight. Do I have to put down my beer first? No? Ok, cool."
I'm hoping for a siege this season. It's been a while.
Have you tried enraging other civilizations into sending a siege of their own?
B: If you keep comparing Morul to Ironblood, someone's going to write a slash fic. Nobody wants to see that.Unless of course, by slash-fic, you mean a fan-fic involving hacking and slashing with swords and axes.
If only, but now I'm imagining lesbian dwarven sex.B: If you keep comparing Morul to Ironblood, someone's going to write a slash fic. Nobody wants to see that.Unless of course, by slash-fic, you mean a fan-fic involving hacking and slashing with swords and axes.
If only, but now I'm imagining lesbian dwarven sex.
But what happens if Oldbeard decides to stop watching and jeering and joins in on the fighting?
Not yet, but I can turn the ballista on the human caravan if the need arises. The 4 orc squads was encouraging. I've been building and installing clear glass windows which adds about 100K to the fortress wealth for each floor, so maybe that's helping bring the orcs back.
58 artifacts out of 74 dwarves.
I've essentially stopped digging at this point, so there hasn't been a mood in ages. Once the windows are in, I'll start making some other things. Maybe just a shitton of masterwork obsidian statues to install in rooms, or mechanisms, or something.
Bah!What about wall BARS?
I just had to savescum when Morul teleported through a steel wall grate in the swimming room and fell in a chasm. Stupid bugs...
Don't know - the Mac 40d doesn't give framerate (I understand this is fixed up in d10 or so). But it's a bit slow. Not sure why - item count isn't climbing. Population is stable. Critters are all locked up tight.
But I've been doing a lot of other work on the computer, so it might just be all of that - haven't been able to spend too much time on Morul or creating wealth.
And a pop-up box reading 'Thanks' will appear on Martin's screen, just before Morul takes over the internet.Don't know - the Mac 40d doesn't give framerate (I understand this is fixed up in d10 or so). But it's a bit slow. Not sure why - item count isn't climbing. Population is stable. Critters are all locked up tight.
But I've been doing a lot of other work on the computer, so it might just be all of that - haven't been able to spend too much time on Morul or creating wealth.
My theory is that Morul is slowly reaching some manner of data critical mass, and will soon achieve sentience.
And so Morul will be the first thing to ever actually win the internet. :D
How many injuries has he caused sparring? Even with a silver mace I'd imagine that his strength would kill/injure recruits left and right.
Morul would strike on Ironblood's shield while Ironblood would try to shieldbash Morul's weapon away. In essence, the sheer force of the combined impact would force upon the apocalypse. Both would survive this, of course, but the rest of dwarf- man- and elfkind would be destroyed and wiped away from all history.
Fools. If Morul was to fight Ironblood, none of them would be victorious.morul brining his hammer down on ironblood's shield may very well be a makeshift lhc.
Something along the lines of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZZlyM1wK5Y&fmt=18) would happen. (Don't mind the bothering narrative and the non-dwarven combatants. :P )
Morul would strike on Ironblood's shield while Ironblood would try to shieldbash Morul's weapon away. In essence, the sheer force of the combined impact would force upon the apocalypse. Both would survive this, of course, but the rest of dwarf- man- and elfkind would be destroyed and wiped away from all history.
And somewhere, on a distant planet light years away from the world as dwarves know it, a utopian society will go lost due to a shockwave pushing its planet out of orbit, and into the nearby sun.
Sounds like it's time to mod in some WEAKER weapon materials!
Don't know - the Mac 40d doesn't give framerate (I understand this is fixed up in d10 or so). But it's a bit slow. Not sure why - item count isn't climbing. Population is stable. Critters are all locked up tight.
Don't know - the Mac 40d doesn't give framerate (I understand this is fixed up in d10 or so). But it's a bit slow. Not sure why - item count isn't climbing. Population is stable. Critters are all locked up tight.
With my experience with both versions, Mac DF is crazy slow when compared to its Windows Counterpart. When I moved from Mac DF to Windows DF, the game moved so fast that I actually couldn't keep up with it at first.
Now in summer, 240.Have you considered making a walled off area to trap attackers in so you get them all?
Got another siege - 5 squads. Morul cleared out 3 1/2 but the rest ran off. Lots of ranged units in this one, and they still present a risk to Morul - he got dinged up this time. Nothing to stick him in bed, but it looks like he caught a bolt in the arm and got a brown wound and a bunch of light grey ones. They healed up quickly, but one of these times he might catch a crit in the throat, heart/lungs, or face. They really unloaded on him though - bolts flying everywhere.
He's up to master macedwarf and the social skills are high master. I think after mace I'll move him to sword.
We've got about 20 full sets of masterwork steel armor now as part of wealth creation. I thought about making some statues, but realized that the only legendary blacksmith is Morul. Might have to train up another one.
We've got about 20 full sets of masterwork steel armor now...
He did strand extracting with a bogus reaction.
Dwarf Companion naturally does not work on Macs. Looks like your options are either to savescum back a bit, or get someone to fix it for you.
Ok, I think I have a real problem now.
My last siege resulted in an orc who got stuck inmidair.geostationary orbit.
It's a known bug. The fortress doesn't see him, the 'k' menu doesn't show him, if you build a wall on him, he remains there. The problem is that the siege won't end. I'm a full 3 seasons on and the siege is still ongoing.
if you build a wall on him, he remains there. The problem is that the siege won't end. I'm a full 3 seasons on and the siege is still ongoing.
I may have to savescum back a year to before the siege. Any thoughts?
What happens when you drop a roof onto him?
BTW, didn't someone make a mac companion somewhere?Somebody made a mac version of Dwarf Foreman.
How are you going to get liar? Looks like thats the only one you might not be able to get.
How are you going to get liar? Looks like thats the only one you might not be able to get.he could always lie about it ;)
I see what you did there.How are you going to get liar? Looks like thats the only one you might not be able to get.he could always lie about it ;)
How are you going to get liar? Looks like thats the only one you might not be able to get.
Apparently the crossbow can be modded to train any skill. Once the normally achievable ones are done, I'll mod in the usually impossible ones such as throwing, etc.
I know that, i just thought that you didnt want to resort to such methods.
What are you gonna do with him when he's done? Abandon? Or do something really fun like drop him from the highest z level and see how much damage he takes?
Morul is as awesome as this guy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Churchill)
Since the majority of fighting took place in the forest, he figured the best way to stop the invasion was to grab his trusty rifle, a couple of cans of food and hide in a tree all day shooting Russians. In six feet of snow. And 20-40 degrees below zero.
Of course when the Russians heard that dozens of their men were going down and that it was all one dude with a rifle, they got fucking scared. He became known as "The White Death" because of his white camouflage outfit, and they actually mounted whole missions just to kill that one guy.
They started by sending out a task force to find Hayha and take him out. He killed them all.
Then they tried getting together a team of counter-snipers (which are basically snipers that kill snipers) and sent them in to eliminate Hayha. He killed all of them, too.
Over the course of 100 days, Hayha killed 542 people with his rifle. He took out another 150 or so with his SMG, sending his credited kill-count up to 705.
Actually, I always though of Morul more like this guy (http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html): Simo Hayha.QuoteSince the majority of fighting took place in the forest, he figured the best way to stop the invasion was to grab his trusty rifle, a couple of cans of food and hide in a tree all day shooting Russians. In six feet of snow. And 20-40 degrees below zero.
Of course when the Russians heard that dozens of their men were going down and that it was all one dude with a rifle, they got fucking scared. He became known as "The White Death" because of his white camouflage outfit, and they actually mounted whole missions just to kill that one guy.
They started by sending out a task force to find Hayha and take him out. He killed them all.
Then they tried getting together a team of counter-snipers (which are basically snipers that kill snipers) and sent them in to eliminate Hayha. He killed all of them, too.
Over the course of 100 days, Hayha killed 542 people with his rifle. He took out another 150 or so with his SMG, sending his credited kill-count up to 705.
Has a nice writeup on Mad Jack in there as well as a few others.
The contingency plan is the most bad ass plan in all of video games, right up there with the forerunners and the rings.
I thought Mayday just added up the levels, but now that I think about it, that doesn't really make sense. Ask him how he did it.
In other news, I just put morul into my fortress. He doesn't have all the skills he does in your game because that would require somebody to have all the skills in general, but he has all the military skills and ridiculous stats which are all that's needed in this fight.
Edit: The captain is there too. I just need to build a basic arena, get them geared up, and get this show on the road.
I thought Mayday just added up the levels, but now that I think about it, that doesn't really make sense. Ask him how he did it.
In other news, I just put morul into my fortress. He doesn't have all the skills he does in your game because that would require somebody to have all the skills in general, but he has all the military skills and ridiculous stats which are all that's needed in this fight.
Edit: The captain is there too. I just need to build a basic arena, get them geared up, and get this show on the road.
Getting a real fight would be a challenge. I think you need to make one berzerk and the other in a martial trance or something (to balance out the berzerk modifier) in order to get them to go full-force.
I thought Mayday just added up the levels, but now that I think about it, that doesn't really make sense. Ask him how he did it.
In other news, I just put morul into my fortress. He doesn't have all the skills he does in your game because that would require somebody to have all the skills in general, but he has all the military skills and ridiculous stats which are all that's needed in this fight.
Edit: The captain is there too. I just need to build a basic arena, get them geared up, and get this show on the road.
Getting a real fight would be a challenge. I think you need to make one berzerk and the other in a martial trance or something (to balance out the berzerk modifier) in order to get them to go full-force.
The contingency plan is the most bad ass plan in all of video games, right up there with the forerunners and the rings.
Looks to me like the weapon skills make quite a large difference. Since Morul's a higher Wrestler, he kills in hand-to-hand much easier than if Ironblood has his highest weapon versus Morul's.
I don't think we know what the modifier is. There's all those numbers in the wiki bandied about, but I can't vouch for their accuracy. It wouldn't be the first time the wiki was grossly mistaken on something. It may be two times, it could be five times, it could be ten times, who knows.
Better forbid that baby fast; don't want Morul picking it up and never letting it go. Even his cold dead hands might prove too difficult to pry open.
Finally, I put both dwarves in full adamantine gear: Exceptional or masterwork platemail, greaves, gauntlets, shields, low boots, helms, and weapons. Let the ultimate battles begin!What, not all masterwork, and not clothes(like Morul has)? They have armor value to be multiplied too. And I mean, why AREN'T you cheating up their gear to bests attainable by slow work? It's not like this is about you being able to make the gear.
What, not all masterwork, and not clothes(like Morul has)? They have armor value to be multiplied too. And I mean, why AREN'T you cheating up their gear to bests attainable by slow work? It's not like this is about you being able to make the gear.
edit: What was the weapon matchup? MW axe v MW mace?
This reminds me SO MUCH of Deadliest Warrior. Do any of you guys watch it? Such a sick show. I can just imagine the host reading out the names and bios of Ironblood and Morul. I have a question though; Crash, maybe I missed a few posts and if so I'm sorry, but how are you making them fight? Did you drive one of them insane or something; I noted that one of them was a @ as opposed to a smiley? Or was this like a dwarf companion thing? Either way, pretty awesome. I think the fact is that Morul will murk in anything other than Ironblood's favourites.He use DC to set one as an invader.
This reminds me SO MUCH of Deadliest Warrior. Do any of you guys watch it? Such a sick show. I can just imagine the host reading out the names and bios of Ironblood and Morul. I have a question though; Crash, maybe I missed a few posts and if so I'm sorry, but how are you making them fight? Did you drive one of them insane or something; I noted that one of them was a @ as opposed to a smiley? Or was this like a dwarf companion thing? Either way, pretty awesome. I think the fact is that Morul will murk in anything other than Ironblood's favourites.Yeah, I love Deadliest Warrior too. I'm sure it's turning my brain into some kind of gooey paste, but there's a strange satisfaction in watching men hit ballistics-gel dummies with medieval weapons for an hour. I have to say this isn't like Deadliest Warrior because there isn't nearly enough trash-talking between Martin and Capt Mayday.
He use DC to set one as an invader.Exactly. I posted it in my earlier fights, but I switch which dwarf is the invader every round, and I used to alternate between inv1 and inv2, but later I switched exclusively to inv1 because inv2 runs away when it takes yellow damage.
It would be like Wolverine, where you see missing chunks of flesh start to regrow themselves the moment they're torn off.
I think it might have been a fluke.
I recalled reading this when looking at my dwarves just now.How are you going to get liar? Looks like thats the only one you might not be able to get.
Apparently the crossbow can be modded to train any skill. Once the normally achievable ones are done, I'll mod in the usually impossible ones such as throwing, etc.
The game just doesnt dare to call him a liar.Hmm...
The game just doesnt dare to call him a liar.Hmm...
I wonder if it would still be considered heresy at this point to say that Morul>Chuck Norris?
The most interesting dwarf has no need to lie.
"Uhh... I didn't eat the cookie!"Except it was there all along. It altered the timestream.
*A cookie appears in the cookie jar out of thin air*
The most interesting dwarf has no need to lie.
If Morul says it, it becomes the Truth.
well he doesnt get any better as ultra-mighty is the best strenght and so on and i think he have them maxed out. and if you have a meeting hall all dwarves get these because of the speech skills.Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.
Yep. I think Morul's super high strength pretty much breaks the combat formula.well he doesnt get any better as ultra-mighty is the best strenght and so on and i think he have them maxed out. and if you have a meeting hall all dwarves get these because of the speech skills.Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.
Actually i checked Dwarf Companion and i noticed that indeed Dwarf strength agility and toughness increase BEYOND what they say they do. I had a miner with 13 Toughness ( 100 Being the actual max and 6 being Super(Racename)lytough. ), so by the time Morul is finished...He will be able to wrestle...I would say he could beat a Giant with his bare hands, quite easily. And yes. Attributes beyond 6 DO count. A maxed out Frog Demon can beat anything.
I'm still hoping that if Morul isn't wearing anything flammable, that he'll fare reasonably well. Not yet, since his weapons skills still all suck other than wrestling, but in about 10 years or so, that should be a much different situation.So...he's fighting in the buff? I'm just picturing naked Morul charging a SoF, and failing, because my brain keeps rebooting.
So...he's fighting in the buff? I'm just picturing naked Morul charging a SoF, and failing, because my brain keeps rebooting.
I thought they melted adamantine if they were holding it. Maybe getting a stuck in would instantly melt an adamantine weapon? Hmm, does this happen, and does the SoF then have molten adamantine embedded in it?
You're going to want multiple champions in there, even if he has L100 shield/weapon/etc, SoF are just 'that' lucky sometimes.QuoteI thought they melted adamantine if they were holding it. Maybe getting a stuck in would instantly melt an adamantine weapon? Hmm, does this happen, and does the SoF then have molten adamantine embedded in it?
I think that's the extent needed. Maybe a stuck weapon would melt, but I don't recall a single instance of a champions armor catching fire or melting when battling SOF. The champs either kill it or die. My thinking was to send Morul in with either hammer or axe, adamantine from head to toe including weapon, and lock the door behind him. He needs some skills though, and I'm thinking now (based on the tests so far) he's got to be in the L100 shield/armor range. That'll take some time.
I was so inspired by this awesome dwarf that I just created a tribute animation to him.
Click for More-ul of Morul. (http://ablindorphan.deviantart.com/art/And-the-Morul-of-the-story-is-127571600)
I'm pretty sure Morul or Ironblood could both trounce frogs or tentacles, but the random flamingness of the SoFs seems to be causing problems for both of them. Locking them in is one thing to try, or possibly making a waterfall between them and their beds to extinguish random fires.Yeah, fireballs are basically instant "Run away!!" Without, fire imps would be cake.
Morul Ironblood....Run away!!
W = Wall
. = Floor
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Wait, 17 z levels deep is a minimal moat? Woah. Mine are a grand total of 1 z level usually (2 if water freezes in winter).
What are you talking about, knock a hole in the ground?All the elves would die then....IT MUST BE DONE!
Morul will push the planet out of it's alignment, sending us into a spiral of ice ages the likes of which noone but the Dwarves will survive.
Well, I turned temp back on while the miners were in the swimming tank under 6/7 water. One died immediately and 4 others slowly burned to death the moment they left the tank. I was afraid of that since the ichor doesn't wash off, at best the water kept its impact to red wounds and once they left they'd just combust - which is precisely what happened. They're tough mofos and had no problems walking around for a week leaving a rather nice trail of smoke behind them. Since they've all been in the fortress for 40+ years, the fortress is now on the brink of a tantrum spiral. 8 dwarves are currently tantruming. And the world is on fire.Why are your miners on fire again?
Morul, ecstatic, is standing by...
Why are your miners on fire again?
if we go on old age about how long will morul be able to live?
i mean hes not going to live forever unless you modded dwarves maxage.
if we go on old age about how long will morul be able to live?
i mean hes not going to live forever unless you modded dwarves maxage.
A random question that just occurred to me, Martin: what, if anything, do you buy from the caravans? Given that you chose the site expressly because it had (almost) every possible resource, it seems like there wouldn't be much left to buy these days. Especially since Morul's finished cheesemaker and dyer, which are otherwise a bit annoying to skill up.
I think Martin's still busy with the rivercross challenge, so Morul's game is on hold for the time being.
I'll compete. Morul just running around killing stuff right now. Nothing much to build, and I like to build.
So, what's the plan in case everyone but Morul ends up dead/injured?
Cheat and heal a few guys to tend to the wounded?
The biggest casualty is the magma pipe moat. Not enough guys to keep the pumps manned 24/7 to allow miners in there. Maybe once everyone is healed up.
So Morul didn't even come down from ecstatic during the spiral, I'm guessing?
How many kids does morul have? Also, how many are dead?
What's that leave, excluding the crazy ones like Liar and Nature Magic?
I can only think of spears, swords and axes off the top of my head...
Like giving them weapons?
Is it possible to mod the orc to have no arms or legs but be huge, slow and hard to hurt?
That way morul can stand beating on them for ages before they die and they won't be able to grab him.
Morul still needs to train a little more to beat the Captain
You can change speed without a regen I'm pretty sure. You could mod the orcs to be super super incredibly slow and they'd be unable to occupy the same spot as Morul as easily as they do now.
Hey Martin, I made a fortress the other day on the Dwarf Heaven site
It was called "MorulTost" one letter off "MorulToast"
Even the very ground that Morul walks Toasts to his name!
Interesting note: Recent research (I went into the language raw and used crtl+f) shows that 'Morul' means 'Page' in the common tongue. Interessant.
[ENTITY:MOUNTAIN]
[CREATURE:DWARF]
[TRANSLATION:DWARF]
. . .
[SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:ARTIFICE]
[SELECT_SYMBOL:REMAINING:EARTH]
. . .
Why is morul naked?
I like your current avatar... makes me want to do some more of those animations... :D
Armored in Adamantine plates? That's what you'd THINK from looking at him, but he's ACTUALLY naked. :)
Why is morul naked?
If there's a problem with weapon quality... why not give him a better weapon? Last I heard, you had given him a weak silver axe, in an attempt to keep the Orcs alive longer for more hits. Since that's not working, why not try the other end - a steel or ada axe might be able to punch through their defenses.
And even if it doesn't, remember to record the video so we can see the DF equivalent of a blender. ;)
From what I've heard, two axes don't actually cause a dwarf to dual-wield, but rather will allow them to pull out a second axe in case the first one is lost.
From what I've heard, two axes don't actually cause a dwarf to dual-wield, but rather will allow them to pull out a second axe in case the first one is lost.
Do you have any plans to armour the others soldiers with adamantine? (they'd need the protection, being Morul's sparring partners).
Or have I missed something, and they are already armoured thus?
Morul's an Artifact. However, that doesn't mean we can't steal his final stats and remake him as every other species in a giant Thunderdome, recording the chaos and knowing, once and for all, what is THE BEST OF THE BEST.
Martin, you try to set the stick_chance to 0 on the axe? If Morul is sticking his weapon, that'll fix it. It'll be global, but it might speed Morul up.
Do you plan to take Morul out in adventure mode?
I remember reading on the forum, that some have been able to.
I'm fairly new to adventure mode as well.
Note that as a Play Now! You have no skills or gear whatsoever, so life will be HARD.
I didn't think Dwarf Companion worked in adventure mode. Nobody showed up in DC when I tried it.
REMOVE STUCK CHANCE FROM THE SPEAR, otherwise it'll get stuck and abandoned practically every time he uses it.
There's a new version of the visualizer now that doesn't require shader support , which is simply awesome ;D
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WMWWWWWWWMWhow high i his thrower skillMost likely it is still 0, since there is no feasible way to raise it legally.
It indeed would be awesome to watch Morul single handely rip the HFS to shreds.
Does water even extinguish fire currently?There was a post about this on the last page, me thinks, water does extinguish fire, but the dwarves have to enter the water themselves or the water has to come to them, so using tweak and placing 7/7 water on top of the dwarves won't help any.
Does water even extinguish fire currently?
And it's not only fireballs. Don't SoFs cause heat damage just by standing next to dorfs, due to heir extremely high temp? If Morul's going melee with them, he's likely to at least sustain some injuries. If he has some time to recover and heal between one SoF and the next, and if he kills them quick, he might be able to do it.Morul kills them in 1 hit so its no problem, they have tested Morul against SoF's before. if you go back som pages you may find it. he died later by a fireball.
I must know, who is Cacame? I've seen the name before on some of my elven traders, (before the drowning) but have not heard of a legendary elf of that name.Check Holy Mittens sig, Cacame has joined the rank(s?) of the legendary dwar-Elves apparently.
Morul's highest skills are wrestling, shield use, and armor use, and they're all quite absurdly high. Recruiting him will require a bunch of grinding, at which point you won't really need him any more.
ToadyOne will eventually implement rules for fighting Armok.
You lose.
I just lost the game.Son of a bitch!
Losing is Fun!I just lost the game.Son of a bitch!
It's resurfacing everywhere you look, it's evil. Especially if it kicks of in your real life.Losing is Fun!I just lost the game.Son of a bitch!
Plus, he'll survive pretty well, even on fire. The full adamantine he's walking around in now will help, and wasn't it morul who walked through magma to get to an enemy? Or am I thinking of someone else...
Just read all 52 pages in one sitting. :'(Ditto. I too am now horribly gay for Morul.
Pat Robertson would be gay for Morul.Just read all 52 pages in one sitting. :'(Ditto. I too am now horribly gay for Morul.
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=12598;sa=showPosts
:-[
I was under the impression that Morul was "finished", at least to the point of non-mod-training.
I nominate Morul to be a swordsdwarf when he's finally done.
You had mentioned that Morul was married but never had kids because the birth cap had been reached. Any of the kids Morul's?
Also interesting is that Morul has no friends. Well, he did, but they all caught on fire and died.*Snrrrk*
"I managed to get three giant cave spiders!"
"Mmhm. What did you do with the rest of the day?"
I forget, is his wife okay?
"I managed to get three giant cave spiders!"
"Mmhm. What did you do with the rest of the day?"
I forget, is his wife okay?
He defeats orc sieges without breaking a sweat.
He has created more wealth than the rest of his civilization combined.
He once got a yellow wound just to see how it would feel.
He is Morul, the most interesting dwarf in the world.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink Nob Ucat"
You had mentioned that Morul was married but never had kids because the birth cap had been reached. Any of the kids Morul's?
No, not yet. Also interesting is that Morul has no friends. Well, he did, but they all caught on fire and died. He spends most of his time off-duty but doesn't usually hang out around the meeting area. He likes his suite.
He defeats orc sieges without breaking a sweat.
He has created more wealth than the rest of his civilization combined.
He once got a yellow wound just to see how it would feel.
He is Morul, the most interesting dwarf in the world.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink Nob Ucat"
He defeats orc sieges without breaking a sweat.I was expecting Burma Shave.
He has created more wealth than the rest of his civilization combined.
He once got a yellow wound just to see how it would feel.
He is Morul, the most interesting dwarf in the world.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink Nob Ucat"\
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/OrcStrikeAnnot.pngIs that on a trope?
This picture is what made me play dwarf fortress, just saying.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/OrcStrikeAnnot.pngIs that on a trope?
This picture is what made me play dwarf fortress, just saying.
He defeats orc sieges without breaking a sweat.
He has created more wealth than the rest of his civilization combined.
He once got a yellow wound just to see how it would feel.
He is Morul, the most interesting dwarf in the world.
"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I drink Nob Ucat"
Kudos to you, Martin. Glad to see Morul will be finishing his most epic quest.
He does. He prefers strawberry wine.Why would Morul need a crude drink?
Goddamn girly man. I would have pegged him for Sewer Brew or Swamp Whisky.
He does. He prefers strawberry wine.
Goddamn girly man. I would have pegged him for Sewer Brew or Swamp Whisky. The drink we have the most of in stock is sunshine (5000) since I can grow sunberries. Trying to round out the drink menu since the dwarves were getting tired of it.
Don't s'pose you could spare a screen of Morul's prefs/thoughts? I'm curious now.
Morul Cattenmat Nentukmerseth Deg has been ecstatic lately. He was glad to have punishment delayed recently. He had a wonderful drink lately. He slept without a proper room recently. He had a satisfying sparring session recently. He admired own completely sublime Container lately. He admired a very find Door lately. He had a truly decadent drink lately. He admired own completely sublime tastefully arranged Statue lately. He has complained of thirst lately. He has complained of hunger lately.
He is married to Zefon Giltdwellers. He is a casual worshipper of Id Flickercrystal the Heat of Gold.
He is an enemy of The Cruelty of Jungles. He is an enemy of The Deceiver of Hermits. He is an enemy of The Scourge of Eyes. He is an enemy of The Doctrine of Funerals. He is a citizen of The Young Lance. He is a member of The Immortal Boats-Armor.
He likes Brimstone, Billon, Claro opal, pearl, black bear bone, the color blue, mountains, chain mail, quivers and dogs for their loyalty. When possible, he prefers to consume Strawberry wine. He absolutely detests fire snakes.
He is confident under pressure. He does not have a great aesthetic sensitivity. He dislikes intellectual discussions. He is modest. He is confident. He has a sense of duty. He acts impulsively. He needs alcohol to get through the working day. He likes working outdoors and grumbles only mildly at inclement weather. He doesn't really care about anything anymore.
No, his bed isn't set as barracks, but it's possible he did sleep in the barracks recently. He regularly breaks for a nap or a nosh between orc squads.Have you changed his squad settings to say "Sleep in room"? Not sure why he would get a sleep without a proper room except from being locked out, in the military or hunting, and the last two don't (I think) give negative thoughts.
He is a member of The Immortal Boats-Armor.
He is modest. He is confident. He has a sense of duty. He acts impulsively.
No, his bed isn't set as barracks, but it's possible he did sleep in the barracks recently. He regularly breaks for a nap or a nosh between orc squads.Have you changed his squad settings to say "Sleep in room"? Not sure why he would get a sleep without a proper room except from being locked out, in the military or hunting, and the last two don't (I think) give negative thoughts.
Did you pick Morul for his personality because I think that fits him perfectly.
Also I think he may have decided to sleep in the barracks recently.
At embark I loaded him up on difficult skills, but I couldn't yet see his personality. I don't even think I knew his gender for certain.
Uh, sorry, didn't mean to come off as condescending. You said you couldn't see, and I thought you might not have noticed. I didn't see it myself until like five months after I started playing. No harm meant.
I don't see any reason whatever for Morul to hold with a stereotype.
Pity he isn't female. Then we might claim she was the child from Boatmurdered.He is a member of The Immortal Boats-Armor.
He is modest. He is confident. He has a sense of duty. He acts impulsively.
Best traits by far for Morul. Also he isn't just a member, he's the mascot.
I bet if you let food, water and Morul locked outside the fort and let it run overnight he'd be done.
I bet if you let food, water and Morul locked outside the fort and let it run overnight he'd be done.
I think Morul needs to be micro mange in combat to survive though.
That's for after Morul is done, since players would want to as well.
also, is he still flammable when he lacks flammable clothes?
That's for after Morul is done, since players would want to as well.
also, is he still flammable when he lacks flammable clothes?
I would assume so. I've seen all manner of other non-clothed things catch on fire. :)
And yes, the HFS waits for the end. It'd be wrong to take that away from everyone. I do know what's in there though, and it will be challenging.
We've finished 70 out of 71 legendary skills, and the last is 1/3 done. I started this challenge in March and NOW you are impatient?
Would it be possible to mod animals for him to skill up on?It'd be too late for modding I believe, He's already genned the world a long time ago.
No, there's always a possibility to edit existing animals. ;-)Would it be possible to mod animals for him to skill up on?It'd be too late for modding I believe, He's already genned the world a long time ago.
Ok, I've got a newbish question here.
Morul's kills are, of course, mostly in Lashedwines, but he has a very few (4 out of 1589 lesser kills) in 'The Grim Rust of Arenas'. Along the west edge of the map, there's a 4 tile wide strip that I cannot station Morul or any other soldier in. I get a red X instead of the usual yellow. Is it possible that's actually considered a different region?
Morul's kills are, of course, mostly in Lashedwines, but he has a very few (4 out of 1589 lesser kills) in 'The Grim Rust of Arenas'.
Morul's kills are, of course, mostly in Lashedwines, but he has a very few (4 out of 1589 lesser kills) in 'The Grim Rust of Arenas'.
Maybe it counts where his kill landed.
if so, I dunno. Check legends to see what the name means, and 'historical map' to see extents of territories if that's it.
>_>if so, I dunno. Check legends to see what the name means, and 'historical map' to see extents of territories if that's it.
Anyway, Morul is up to High Master Swordsdwarf just through sparring. If the 'higher skills = fewer injuries' during sparring theory is correct, it's possible he's going longer before hurting his opponent now. I noticed before they'd start sparring and almost instantly break it off even though nobody was seriously hurt. Morul appears to spar longer now, so maybe that's it.
I wonder how long it'd take Morul to fire a few thousand bolts if he had a constant stream of targets or even just a Wild Horse with size 10,000 or so to shoot them at. With the infinite quiver trick, I'm guessing he'd be the dwarven equivalent of a gatling gun.
I wonder how long it'd take Morul to fire a few thousand bolts if he had a constant stream of targets or even just a Wild Horse with size 10,000 or so to shoot them at. With the infinite quiver trick, I'm guessing he'd be the dwarven equivalent of a gatling gun.
Flshing in all the colors of theRainbowdorf.rainbowCGA palette?
I think this makes Morul the first 2M+ exp dwarf, and the first 30+ stat dwarf. Another 5 levels of wrestler, 7 shield user, 3 armor user.
I think this makes Morul the first 2M+ exp dwarf, and the first 30+ stat dwarf. Another 5 levels of wrestler, 7 shield user, 3 armor user.
I thought Cpt. Ironbloods fellows were WAY above that? Even I have 2 dorfs in my current fortress with 4M+ XP and 40+ or 35+ stats.
Trained them for about 20 years in my no-immigration-fort. Its really not that hard.. ^^... screenshot or it didn't happen...
Morul's wife is a level 46 weaver and level 38 flatterer and still hasn't gotten knocked up
I just checked some of my other dwarves, and weapon sparring is insanely productive for some dwarves, but not for others. One is a level 63 swordsman, and nobody was given a sword until Morul was, so Morul had as much sparring opportunity as the others, yet is still only level 14, even with all the orc slaughter. There are two others in the high 50s, so there's something about sparring when other skills/xp/stats are factored in. Nobody else is over 1.2M experience though. Some other notables:I don't think a mere level 38 flatterer could do Morul justice to be honest.
level 79 appraiser (other than Morul's stint, I think I've had the same trader for the whole life of the fortress)
level 96 furnace operator plus a level 78 furnace operator (yes, a lot of armor to melt and a lot of adamantine wafers to make)
level 84 grower and level 30 potash maker (2131 clear glass windows, plus clear glass blocks)
Morul's wife is a level 46 weaver and level 38 flatterer and still hasn't gotten knocked up
level 41 strand extractor
63? Wow. What level is legendary?
Morul's wife is a level 46 weaver and level 38 flatterer and still hasn't gotten knocked up
How long does he have to live?Dwarves are pre-determined at birth to die at some age between 150 and 170 inclusive. This gives Morul 46 ± 10 years left. We could potentially find out if we killed off the rest of the fort (to increase FPS) and let him coast along for a few decades.
I mean assuming he doesn't die from the balista bolts and 20 z-level drops...
Idea for a new project: The Most Interesting Adventurer In The WorldIt should be possible to level an adventurer to far exceed the capabilities of any fortress dwarf, simply because the relative timescales favour adventurers in actions per year. It is complicated by requiring food, water and rest, but these can be turned off if cheating is your thing. There's only so much fighting you can do with a massive pack of food (and a nearby pool for water) before you run out and have to buy more. And in adventure mode, buying more is difficult. If you first collect all HFSite from the gameworld in fortress mode and convert it into mugs then your adventurer would have a near-infinite amount of purchasing power (requiring trips to collect the mugs, of course). By the time your strength is over legendary you would probably be able to carry an incomprehensibly large amount of rations anyway.
... vs Morul.
One one hand, our dear dorf has hundreds of extra legendary levels. On the other hand, an adventurer has one thing Morul does not, cannot, and will not ever have. Legendary Throwing.
My proposition: Someone gen a Large world, and take it to the Age of Emptiness. Then, (retire and?) copy this omnicidal adventurer into a 15-z deep pit made of obsidian (That's SOLID obsidian, folks! Better brush up on your magma management!) and engraved by a team of Legendary Engravers (Perhaps Morul could help?), then put Morul and Urist McMurdereverything in the pit, and wage them against each other for our amusement, in every permutation we can imagine. With shields, without shields, in adamantine, in wood, on obsidian, on sand. With bare fists, with artifact weapons, with swords, hammers, crossbows and spears. In the pit, surrounded by skeletal elephants. In the water, surrounded by sturgeons. With clowns, with horribly overpowered megabeast, in a three-way free-for-all with Ironblood, whatever you can think of.
Then, when we tire of pitting them against each other, we team them up. Morul and Urist McMurdereverything versus a dozen Bronze Colossi! Versus burny clowns, versus magma men, Versus 50 Giant Eagles standing on a 20-z tall 3x3 pillar, whatever sick fantasies we can come up with. And once, when we're finally done, and no one can think of another challenge ever again... we ship them.
In summary, I want to pit an adventurer dwarf who has spent his entire life strangling skeletal groundhogs against Morul.I have another proposition. Morul vs Obok (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=27591.msg941291#msg941291) Meatgod (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=27591.msg958271#msg958271).
And once, when we're finally done, and no one can think of another challenge ever again... we ship them.Yes.
In summary, I want to pit an adventurer dwarf who has spent his entire life strangling skeletal groundhogs against Morul.
Congrats on finishing your quest. Morul is truly a testament to the dwarven spirit. A shame he is so old.
One one hand, our dear dorf has hundreds of extra legendary levels. On the other hand, an adventurer has one thing Morul does not, cannot, and will not ever have. Legendary Throwing.It's not impossible, just not easy.
Oh, if anyone could run visualizer on it, I still can't seem to get it working. In particular I'd like to see the front approach with the moat, the center atrium with all the windows and suspended platforms, and Morul's suite. Not sure what it does with clear glass windows + magma.
Am I doing it wrong? I can't get the save to work. Every time I boot 40d16 it makes new object files (that are named files, while the ones I downloaded are called text files) and running the save only gets me errors about compressed files
Morul is either absorbing or dodging Ballista bolts. (I don't think they're tipped though)
He's standing right in front of the thing and each one either passes through him (to no effect so far) or he goes around them as they fly.
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This guy who was standing BEHIND Morul and apparently is Superdwarvingly Tough was hit by one and barely survived. (missing a hip and all connected to it.)
I stationed another military guy at the same place Morul was and he dodged a few but soon lost his own hip.
So far it seems that Morul is immune to ballista.
Ugh. Edit: If anyone else cares to continue this line of investigation you are welcome to it. I am the type to savescum whenever a dwarf dies so I can't go on. I took note of a planter who's husband and sibling have died as a result of my testing (and who had a red heart and lungs at the time herself) and couldn't stand it.
Who wants to make Morul Legendary +5 in everything?Unfortunately not possible without cheating, as it would require standing him down from the military.
ahhh , sheesh! someone just beaten me to it!
seriously now , i was also aiming to get all-legendary on one of my dwarfs , only currenly at eight legendaries , shit....
I get that it takes a long time, but really now. It's not like he built a house with his bare hands. The dwarf does most of the work.ahhh , sheesh! someone just beaten me to it!I don't want the huge amount of work Martin's done to be devalued.
seriously now , i was also aiming to get all-legendary on one of my dwarfs , only currenly at eight legendaries , shit....
He's the most interesting dwarf in the world, but can he see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?Morul: It has masterfully designed swirls on it?
He's the most interesting dwarf in the world, but can he see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?With Legendary Judge of Intent, yes, yes he can.
Morul is either absorbing or dodging Ballista bolts. (I don't think they're tipped though)
He's standing right in front of the thing and each one either passes through him (to no effect so far) or he goes around them as they fly.Spoiler (click to show/hide)
This guy who was standing BEHIND Morul and apparently is Superdwarvingly Tough was hit by one and barely survived. (missing a hip and all connected to it.)
Then they finish their construction and they don't know what the hell it is but they fall so in love with it that even a hairline crack on it will throw them into a berzerker rage where the only way to stop it would be to drown the entire fortress in magma.
^ Must..resist..urge..to make GIF..
^ Must..resist..urge..to make GIF..
Why resist?
^ Must..resist..urge..to make GIF..
Why resist?
Resistance is futile.
Nah, if you get E high enough, R doesn't matter.I'm pretty sure Morul could punt an elf high enough.
I'm pretty sure Morul could punt an elf high enough.And it all circles back to the beginning.
I don't want the huge amount of work Martin's done to be devalued.I get that it takes a long time, but really now. It's not like he built a house with his bare hands. The dwarf does most of the work.
There's a sizable region between "grammar nazi" and "communicating effectively" that you also appear to be not in.
Back when Al Gore invented the internet. WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.I think you mea-
Back when Al Gore invented the internet. WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.
There's a sizable region between "grammar nazi" and "communicating effectively" that you also appear to be not in.
Since when did we all become pricks?
Back when Al Gore invented the internet. WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.I'm picturing Al Gore getting surgery to replace his hands with bear paws...
and the his legs replaced with pigs legsBack when Al Gore invented the internet. WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.I'm picturing Al Gore getting surgery to replace his hands with bear paws...
and the his legs replaced with pigs legsBack when Al Gore invented the internet. WITH HIS BEAR HANDS.I'm picturing Al Gore getting surgery to replace his hands with bear paws...
Good work on your most interesting dwarf! Much fun. :)
Double fix'dGood work on your most awesome dwarf! Much fun. :)
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Triple :DDouble fix'dGood work on your armok! Much fun. :)
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That doesn't even make sense!Triple :DDouble fix'dGood work on your armok! Much fun. :)
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So I've made some attempts at an adventure mode run at the fortress. I was bummed when I got to the seventh floor of the main staircase and realized there was no floor around it, so I had to check the map archive to work out how to get to the suite.I leapt off the floor above and while for some reason it doesn't list the contents they should still be in the bin, they were for me. Weirdly enough because I had grabbed all the steel armour and sheilds I could find they couldn't hurt me but then I over exerted passed out and it said I suffocated. Is it possible to suffocate if enough creatures are in your square?
I hadn't seen dwarf nor creature all the way in, and then the very moment I stepped into the suite I'm mobbed by a dozen or more ratmen and troglodytes. Close quarters (and stepping into a doorway right next to all of them) did not bode well for my legendary thrower.
Has anyone sought out Morul in adventure mode after abandoning? He's nowhere near Lashedwines at least. I'm going to need some followers or some undead to strangle if I'm going to make it in there. I've thrown a half dozen hammerdwarves at the place trying to clean it out, but every time I go back I run afoul of a different group of ratmen and troglodytes and don't even know if they're respawning or just prolific.
Edit: I made it into the suite, but all of the armor and weapon bins had rotten away except for the adamantine plate. Perhaps I took too long getting there, everything was XXBinXX and XXWoodThingsXX, but its a little interesting that the contents of a bin disappear if it rots in adventure mode.
EVERY time I see the title of this thread I think of a Dwarf in a robe surrounded by Dwarf ladies and he says "I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Longland."
Try to make some sense?
I'm thinking the new version's dwarves saw the commercial and took the "stay thirsty" bit a little too seriously.
I don't want the huge amount of work Martin's done to be devalued.I get that it takes a long time, but really now. It's not like he built a house with his bare hands. The dwarf does most of the work.
A VERY useful thing to do when your involved with any near-constant pause/recenter is to go into the data/init/announcements.txt and change the settings on the event so that it doesn't pause and recenter.[Did it for warm/damp rock so i could have a room cleared of non-__ then come back and peel it off a layer at a time instead of 1-2 tiles at a time]Morul was made in 40d, and there were no such settings to alter, so Martin truly did have to do it by hand. He had no choice.