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Other Projects => Other Games => Topic started by: Drakale on May 11, 2009, 12:10:58 pm
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Is there any game in developpement right now in the style of freespace 1 or 2 ? I played those games to death and loved every seconds of it. It's true you dont have the freedom of other space game(it's linear and mission based), but the military feel and atmosphere was grand. I still remember the final fight of freespace 1 as one of my greatest gaming moments.
Freelancer came close, but it did not have the same feeling to it.
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There's the Freespace Source Code Project (http://www.hard-light.net), who have maintained the actual Freespace 2 source code since volition opensourced it a few years ago. There's some good mods and total-conversions based on it (the babylon 5 one is particularly nice). Other than that, the space fighter sim genre pretty much died years ago.
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Whoa how could i not know about this, I'm going to give it a try. Hope there are some good fan made campaigns. *dust off his trusty Wingman Joystick*
But still.... I long for a modern commercial space combat sim, made to be piloted with a joystick not a controller. I guess there is just not enough market in that genre anymore.
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Have you tried "Babylon 5: I've found her"? It's not commercial(free!), it's not too modern(~2005?), it's linear and it's great.
http://ifh.babylonfive.ru/
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Have you tried "Babylon 5: I've found her"? It's not commercial(free!), it's not too modern(~2005?), it's linear and it's great.
http://ifh.babylonfive.ru/
It look decent. I must admit I am not a huge Babylon 5 fan, but if the story do not require deep knowledge of the babylon lore to be enjoyed I might try it.
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It doesn't. All you need to know there are people with psychic abilities and the omegacorps(if I remember the name well) policy them.
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If you have a source game, I really advise Eternal Silence (http://eternal-silence.net/) It's a multiplayer space mod, you can run around capships as a marine and pilot smallcraft very much like FS2, only with some extra features like cutting engines and directional thrusters. The spacefights are a lot like FS2. And the infantry combat is better than HL2 itself. It's really good.
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I second the Eternal Silence recommendation. I have fun with it now and then, but it gets repetitive real quick.
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I'm more looking for a single player story driven game, but i might give it a try. Is there a coop mode?
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I'm more looking for a single player story driven game, but i might give it a try. Is there a coop mode?
Technically. It's a coop vs game, team versus team. So yeah, you have to work with your team to beat the other team.
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Hope there are some good fan made campaigns.
Hell yeah there are.
I've played nowhere near them all but I can list the best of the best imho. Their quality might even surpass Volitions work. Some of these were even voice acted by the community.
Semi full list on the wiki: http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/User-made_Campaigns_%28FS2%29
My recommendations:
Derelict(voice acted - top notch)
Blue Planet(voice acting in progress - widely considered one of the best mainly for its storyline and bombastic missions)
Silent Threat: Reborn(voice acted - a fan made remake of the addon to FS1 features entirely new missions and a plot that makes sense)
Procyon Insurgency(not voice acted - probably the most "Freespace'y" feels like something Volition would make)
The newest release of the source code project supports modern graphic affects like normals and glowmaps. Many(most) of the old fs1 and 2 ships have been completely redone to high-poly models. Some of the campaigns feature entirely custom ships unseen in the originals.
New graphics showoff:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZuA9zvxs0Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxhvPas5Bwk
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Thanks for the recomendations Toady Two, I wll try this as soon as possible. The new graphic effects look really great. Hard to believe the original game was made so long ago.
I tried Eternal Silence, and let's just say if i wanted to play a shooter I would just boot up TF2 ;D Weird cross between a space game and Battlefield 1942.
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I just finished the Derelict campaign, and wow it's really good. At first the voice overs are amateurish, but in the later missions it's really top-notch. The whole scenario is also well thought out, and it even have some oh shit moments where the odds seem to stack against you.
Trying out Blue Planet next, the custom skins/models look especially good in this one.
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Hm, I really loved Freespace, never played Freespace 2 though sadly. I'd love ot try this out but my joystick is so old it doesn't even have the right plug for my computer anymore. I guess I need to get a new one. Speaking of Volition, Saint's Row 2 is really good.
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I just finished the Derelict campaign, and wow it's really good. At first the voice overs are amateurish, but in the later missions it's really top-notch. The whole scenario is also well thought out, and it even have some oh shit moments where the odds seem to stack against you.
Trying out Blue Planet next, the custom skins/models look especially good in this one.
"I'll take that medal and duct tape it to my cockpit."
Yeah Blue Planet is a newer campaign and it uses some of most detailed models available. Consider using the voice synthesizer(needs the latest 3.6.10 build) however as BP isn't voice acted yet and is pretty story-heavy, the plot twists during mission and Microsoft Sam is always superior to pausing and reading as that breaks the flow. Also don't get discouraged by the difficulty as BP is one of the hardest campaigns out there. I personally repeated a certain(you'll know the one) mission something like 15 time before finally skipping it.
Also a sequel to Blue Planet is in the works, currently being tested so might be coming out soonish.
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But still.... I long for a modern commercial space combat sim, made to be piloted with a joystick not a controller. I guess there is just not enough market in that genre anymore.
X3 is pretty much the king of these types of Elite clones, me thinks. i dont think the moding community is as big for it as for Freelancer (or am i thinking of Freespace?) but there are still a number of them out there.
The stock games ("reunion" and "terran conflict") are both pretty solid on their own, from what i understand. I've only played reunion.
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X3 is pretty much the king of these types of Elite clones, me thinks. i dont think the moding community is as big for it as for Freelancer (or am i thinking of Freespace?) but there are still a number of them out there.
I tried X3 (no expansion) and didn't like it. The universe felt bland and nothing fun ever happened. The solo campaign was beyond dull too(and buggy). The game permit you to become the owner of vast fleet and space stations, but it is pointless since there is no active invasions or anything exciting that ever happens(again I am talking about the original vanilla X3, this might have changed). It's not that i dislike a free environment, but too often thats synonymous with a static environment.
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really? i'm pretty sure there are active invasions based on economic necessity, so factions go to war when their merchants start having to path through each other's space to reach resources they need.
i could be misunderstanding whats going on in the background, though. most of the combat does seem to be based on randomly generated pirates on the major trade lanes through a sector, though.
you can certainly invade others once you build up an economy and a fleet. but thats just pushing things around in a static environment, as you say.
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Yeah, when you can fully predict how you will get attacked and why, it's not really exciting, there is no unknown. I did not recall actual faction invasion attacking my stations unless i provoked them first from vanilla X3, but maybe it's just my memory... I did not play the game very much at all, so my opinion of it might not be very informed.
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X3, after all the mods, is an amazing game.
Never judge a game from it's vanilla state. That's a lesson I learned from Pirates of the Caribbean. After 6 years, the modding community is still active and has been updating a truly epic mod since the game was released.
Same goes for X3.
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Wish I'd had Sea Dogs 2...
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Wish I'd had Sea Dogs 2...
Pirates of the Caribbean + Build Mod = Sea Dogs 2 :P
Anyway, Age of Pirates 2 has been released in Europe.
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Wish I'd had Sea Dogs 2...
Pirates of the Caribbean + Build Mod = Sea Dogs 2 :P
Anyway, Age of Pirates 2 has been released in Europe.
That sounds great, but I never got PotC so I can't play Sea Dogs 2... I remember when they changed the name. They didn't announce it or anything, it was just like, one day I went to visit the SD2 forums and the next day they were gone, replaced by that skeleton manning a ship's wheel. It was so totally WTF, and I never did find out whether they explained it or not. I kinda lost interest when it became clear what had happened. I wonder though who was behind this. Akella or Bethesda...
Edit: Hey, I read up on the build mod, and as far as I can tell, it makes it more like Pirates of the Carribean rather than Sea Dogs 2. They're talking about adding Krakens...
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Yeah Blue Planet is a newer campaign and it uses some of most detailed models available. Consider using the voice synthesizer(needs the latest 3.6.10 build) however as BP isn't voice acted yet and is pretty story-heavy, the plot twists during mission and Microsoft Sam is always superior to pausing and reading as that breaks the flow. Also don't get discouraged by the difficulty as BP is one of the hardest campaigns out there. I personally repeated a certain(you'll know the one) mission something like 15 time before finally skipping it.
Also a sequel to Blue Planet is in the works, currently being tested so might be coming out soonish.
I finished it and I wasn't too trilled with it. The story get weird and throw you around a lot in a deux ex machina way that feel a little out of your hands. Plus the order vs chaos thing for Shivans seem a little cliche.
And as you said some missions are quite insane. It's one thing to demand good skills to complete a mission, but when you have to rely on computer AI for some mission critical event it end up being frustrating if they make you fail. Plus some mission I only succeeded once I knew exactly what was going to happen and where I should be BEFORE anything in the game hints you to it. Add the fact that you cannot complete a mission with partial success and it's quite annoying.
The new models and weapons are well done however and everything else is very professional.
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You're giving me flashbacks to TIE Fighter. D:
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I second the Eternal Silence recommendation. I have fun with it now and then, but it gets repetitive real quick.
I played that one back when it was open beta. Did they ever fix the utterly, horribly broken flamethrower imbalance issue?(Flamethrowers kill instantly, and the other team didn't have any sort of reasonable counter. One game, my team got trapped in our spawn point, which had L-shaped exit corridors, when the other team just flooded the angles with fire and let us rot.)
My other complaint is that the ships had a maximum speed which was reached by holding down any accellerate button for about 2 seconds.