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Title: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 12:32:47 pm
In case you haven't seen the commercials flooding the cable airwaves, the Discovery Channel has a new miniseries to air starting next week.

The Colony (http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html)

Long story short (I'm guessing), some super powerful virus wiped out a good chunk of humanity, society and industry has broken down, scattered remnants of humanity blah blah blah your typical death of mankind.  From the nonconfrontational Armageddon emerges a band of ten people - four women and six men, all with harrowing/inspiring life stories, each more moderately attractive and racially diverse than the last (except the two old farts, natch) - who against all ration hole up in a Southern California junk yard, to rebuild their own corner of civilization.

I'm ragging a bit on the boilerplate premise and producerizing, but let's be honest.  It's a show we've all wanted to see, based on a scenario we've all fantasized of being in.  The only way you could beef up a pitch like that is if the MythBusters promised a guest appearance.

Now, judging by the split-second teaser shots in the commercials, it'll probably be more about junkyard science tricks and semi-scripted character drama than any revealing implications of post-apocalyptic survival.  Nonetheless, I look forward to it with great anticipation, and expect loads of tangential discussion from our little enclave of anti-social intellectualism.

First question - who will the board rally around?  Michael Raines, the Crazy Prepared survivalist with equal love for crossbows and solar panels?  Or Professor John Cohn, the pyromaniac computer engineer with enough beard for a dozen men?

And I'll want some episode summaries, because naturally it's only going to air when I'm at work.  RAAAGE
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Duke 2.0 on July 11, 2009, 12:52:54 pm
 So basically The Alaska Experiment taken to the next step?

 I'm alright with that. Although I wonder how interaction with the Thugs will play out.

 Then again, lacking the Discovery Channel I'll have to wait for it to appear on On Demmand. Crap.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 01:00:54 pm
Not realistically at all I'm sure, since they're not allowed to shoot or main each other as one would expect.  The promo clip shows them just shouldering people out of the building.  Lame.

Though I always appreciate an excuse for people to work their Road Warrior thang.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Duke 2.0 on July 11, 2009, 01:04:17 pm
Another, more in-depth video. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOKO19BMPKk)

 Goddam did they make the game start hard.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 01:07:25 pm
It might not be to bad, Discovery is one of the better channels.  Personally I think they should of recruited dwarf fortress players, though, since we are awesome and would try and hook a hydro-electric dam up to a volcano or something.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 11, 2009, 01:08:03 pm
I suddenly have an urge to start another zombie apocalypse forum game.

Time to break out FF7!
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 01:15:54 pm
Quote from: Strife26 on July 11, 2009, 01:08:03 pm
I suddenly have an urge to start another zombie apocalypse forum game.

Or just a post-apocalypse survival game.  It's only a matter of time now.  Or maybe make an UnReal World style roguelike in a post-apoc environment.

And I've depressed myself with memories of Angry Red Planet again.  Dammit.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Jreengus on July 11, 2009, 01:23:54 pm
Hmmmm, they don't seem to have chosen a very accurate cross section, where is the primary school teacher? The office worker? The bin men? Are we to believe that in the case of a viral outbreak the only people who would be immune would be those who have handy expertise?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 11, 2009, 01:28:06 pm
We're both going to end up starting a new one or continuing an old one, aren't we?

I just did a quick scope of what I'd do in a apocalyptic emergency, and I'm surprisingly set. Knife right be my computer (and another one near my laptop), shotgun's easily accessible (although there isn't nearly as much 4 buck as I'd like) with plenty of ammo. I'd start by grabbing the big ladder from my garage and getting it set up on the deck (it'd be the loudest thing to do, so I'd do it first). Then, I've got ruck sack which I'd fill with the MRE's and a few bottle of water (and some rope, which is in an easy to find box with a few big rolls of duct tape), I'd get that stuff to the roof (one handing the shotie  :-\), then go back down. Plug the bathtub (with duct tape in addition to the plug) and start it running, plug the sinks and start filling them. Find/make a sling for my shotgun, grab the R700 from the closet. Grab my cold weather sleeping bag. Go up on the roof, carefully empty the ruck. Tie some rope to something (probably a whirly bird), drop it down with the sack. Tie the R700 in case, fill the sack with whatever and hoist it up.
Go back down, change into better clothes quickly (especially boots!), grab the .22, and fill the sack with clothes (a sweater, the ACU jacket). Run an extension cord from the deck to the roof. Pull up my electric kettle, laptop, cell, chargers.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Cthulhu on July 11, 2009, 02:15:45 pm
I'm wondering what the martial artist is going to be good for in this situation.  She should've beaten up the marauders.  I have to agree with Aqizzar, though, Post Apocalyptic Road Warrior Gangs are up there with chainsaw-launchers and carving the moon into a huge skull and filling its eye sockets with burning copper salts on the list of things that would be totally awesome.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Maric on July 11, 2009, 02:32:58 pm
I don't like the chick with the green overcoat. She doesn't even try to act like its real  :(.

One thing I don't like however is that it will never become a fight for survival in something like this. Its controlled as they said which ruins the entire thing  :(.

Will watch it however as I am interested in this stuff.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Sergius on July 11, 2009, 02:38:20 pm
These survival scenarios are a no brainer, really. It all comes down to:

1) Secure enough materials from junkyard.

2) Build giant robot.

3) Conquer Post-Apocalyptic Earth.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Cthulhu on July 11, 2009, 02:51:06 pm
Someone in the comments on the Youtube video said they should make an HBO series of the same premise, but with a zombie apocalypse.  Since it would be on HBO they wouldn't have to worry about violence, and you know it would be rad.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: ToonyMan on July 11, 2009, 03:50:06 pm
What you need for post-apocolispe world:

1.  An autobioagraphy of some guy in the 1800's.

Surely one of his kind will know how to live in a world with less humans and no electricty (sorta).

2.  A chick.

So you ain't bored.  And not a bird unless you want too.

3.  A source of water.

Make sure that the water source is still so you get the most vitamuns.

4.  A gun.

Most likely a rifle or shotgun of some sort, of course they're harder to kill yourself with though.

5.  Onions (or lemons if you're low on onions)

They are good source of protein and scare away animals.  Bears won't touch the stuff.  Onions have the extra perk in that they scare off vampires.

6.  A DeLorean (if you have access to one)

So you can go back in time to 100 years or something before the apoclipse so you never have to live it.  Or you can go into the futur when humans of repopulated.(or died)

7.  A never ending stairway.

For excersise of course, how would you find a tredmill that works without power duh!

8.  The 10th Kingdom Novel

Just as good as the movie, probably longer.  It never ends.

9.  A Journal(?)

Could keep you busy writing stupid postapoclipse survival guides.

10.  HULK SHORTS

SO YOU CAN HULK SMASH STUFF.  HUZZAH!  BETTER THAN A GUN IF YOU HAVE ONE.  MAKES PEEING DISCOMPFERTING.

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*the page is teared right about here, you stop reading
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 11:23:31 pm
What I think you need in post apocalypse world situation.

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1: Knowledge, if you can't start a fire your probably dead soon, etc
2: Seeds to a easily grown plant that produces food, (vegetables etc)
3: An easily maintained bow (No ammo factories in a post apocalypse world, arrows can be made, See: 1)
4: Knife, preferably a sword (can be substituted with 1 if you have access to flint)
5: A not-easy-to-destroy distraction, (like a book or something, to keep your spirits up or something )
6: Water, at least a few days worth till you can find more
7: Rope, always useful
8: Ducktape, ALWAYS USEFUL

Can't think of more
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Hmmmm, they don't seem to have chosen a very accurate cross section, where is the primary school teacher? The office worker? The bin men? Are we to believe that in the case of a viral outbreak the only people who would be immune would be those who have handy expertise?

If an apocalypse happened the first places that took the hit would be cities, office workers, bin men, teachers, would die,  then again so would the cross section they picked out, (can't remember who though) The higher percentage of survivors would probably be farmers, hunters, sailors, freight haulers (Truck, train etc), after all you don't drop nukes on farms, or random roads or in the ocean.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Duke 2.0 on July 11, 2009, 11:28:19 pm
 Replace sword with club. While a slicing weapon may be nice, it is easier to learn to use a club and can be just as deadly on unarmored opponents. And if a potential opponent stumbles upon Kevlar armor, one wants something that will still knock 'em up rather bad.

 Then again, I'm not sure if Kevlar is cutproof or not.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 11:31:52 pm
Quote from: Duke 2.0 on July 11, 2009, 11:28:19 pm
Replace sword with club. While a slicing weapon may be nice, it is easier to learn to use a club and can be just as deadly on unarmored opponents. And if a potential opponent stumbles upon Kevlar armor, one wants something that will still knock 'em up rather bad.

 Then again, I'm not sure if Kevlar is cutproof or not.

A sword has other uses though  (try skinning a deer with a club)

The 'Biker' gang is basically a non issue until you actually start trying to build a new civilization, initially survival is the goal, and thats easier away from population centers, give it a year and all those biker gangs will either of perished or formed an alliance with the farmers, which is the first step to civilization.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:33:19 pm
There would still be loads of store clerks, bus drivers, airline pilots, state troopers, road workers, and unemployed drifters.  Especially in America, you'd have to nuke the crap out of everything to do more than dent the population, since we're so spread out over semi-small towns and exurbs.

I'm pretty sure that's why the show went with a virus as an explanation.  Pretty good chance of killing everybody, regardless of occupation or geography unless you're already hiding way out in the woods.  That said, I'll be very interested to see how well these guys do, because if such a hand picked crew of born improvisers can't hack it, we're all fucked.

A sword?  What, do you think the Humungus is going to roll up and shout "Stand And Deliver!"  And no, kevlar is not cut proof.  In fact, that's one of it's most commonly cited shortcomings as police armor.  Not that I would skin a deer with something as unwieldy as a sword either.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Duke 2.0 on July 11, 2009, 11:36:04 pm
 Alright, so the Kevlar defense is busted.

 Still, I would prefer the 'ol blunt weapon. And using anything other than a knife to cut things like a tool is awkward and crude. You would need to use a knife even if you had a sword.

 Edit: Screw it, this is not turning into the Guns vs. Swords debate(Which is stupid, but is a similar situation). Back to improvised gadgets.

 Also, I wonder where they got the desolate abandoned city to do this at.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:38:47 pm
That's why I, like the almighty Wez, would make crossbows out of car parts.  Versatile, dangerous, and logistical.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 11:46:41 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:38:47 pm
That's why I, like the almighty Wez, would make crossbows out of car parts.  Versatile, dangerous, and logistical.

Bow would be better since its just a piece of wood. and some string.

Also, the knife/sword is just a matter of taste.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:49:44 pm
Crossbow is better, because you can make it out of car parts instead of trying to track down good bow-wood in an urban environment.  Really, it's not a matter of style, it's a matter of practicality.  That none of us are ever likely to contend with, of course.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 11:52:14 pm
Why are you in an urban environment, you can't grow crops on cement.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:55:55 pm
Because I live in an urban environment, and it's two hours by car to get to any place that could be called "rural".  Even so, I would stay here for at least a month or two, because of the far better scavenging options and abundance of resources.

Necessity may be the mother of invention, but it's not going to turn me or you into farmers overnight.  I've tried growing stuff.  It's a lot harder and more effort consuming than just tossing some seeds around and waiting for the Garden of Eden to sprout.  I'd be better off hunting feral dogs for a while.  Besides, there is plenty of dirt and grass and such in cities you know.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 11, 2009, 11:57:11 pm
I already AM a farmer.

I've lived on a farm all 19 years of my life, I don't know everything, but I know enough to get me through if needed.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 12:00:46 am
My apologies then.  Not knowing any different, I'd figured you were another suburbanite like 99% of the Internet.

I still stand by my commitment to urbanization though.  Call me a city slicker, but I'll take my chances here.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 12, 2009, 12:05:24 am
Don't count guns out. Even with my horrible short coming supply of ammo, I have:
1 12 gauge with (I counted them today) 14 of 4 bird, 8 of 5 bird, and 4 of 4 buck.
1 .22 long rifle with about 30 rounds (note that I've never shot this particular gun, so it's possible that it might take awhile to get sorted out)
1  Scoped R700 with 8 .357 magnums (easily capable of taking down an elk, in my dad's words, it's overkill on a deer; never shot it before)

That's just my house. I could go up and down the street and gets lots more ammunition. Plus, at first sign of apocalypse, I'm damn sure going to stock up on everything.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:14:39 am
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/bios/

How does any of these professions, except doctor, have to do with survival?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Jack_Bread on July 12, 2009, 01:15:49 am
Maybe... maybe... ROBOT ZOMBIES!!
It's a good thing they have those scientists.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 12, 2009, 01:17:58 am
Independent contractor would be especially useful (builds stuff for a living).
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 01:23:29 am
Quote from: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:14:39 am
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/bios/

How does any of these professions, except doctor, have to do with survival?

Like I said, there's a hell of a lot more to survival than farming.  All those mechanics and engineers would certainly come in handy for doing anything except regressing into the medieval ages.  However, the computer and martial arts people do seem rather superfluous, at least in an immediate sense.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:30:06 am
Quote from: Strife26 on July 12, 2009, 01:17:58 am
Independent contractor would be especially useful (builds stuff for a living).

Quote from: Wikipedia
An independent contractor is a natural person, business, or corporation which provides goods or services to another entity under terms specified in a contract or within a verbal agreement.

Not really a person who builds stuff. 

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Like I said, there's a hell of a lot more to survival than farming.  All those mechanics and engineers would certainly come in handy for doing anything except regressing into the medieval ages.  However, the computer and martial arts people do seem rather superfluous, at least in an immediate sense.

Just doesn't seem realistic in my eyes I guess, if the world ends the last thing I'm worrying about is building solar panels or flying planes, or riding whales. (thats what marine scientists do right?) The Mechanics might be useful for building complex death traps for immigrants though
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 12, 2009, 01:31:37 am
I'm a horrible person:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

At least around Fargo, Independent Contractors are the smallish businesses that do Handyman jobs (like the friend who builds decks, or the surprisingly large crew who gutted our basement after the flood).
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 01:34:38 am
Come on Rilder, have you really spent your whole life so far from cities that you've never heard of Day Laborers?  That's what "Independent Contractor" euphemistically refers to - he used to be a guy who builds houses on a day-by-day cash payment.  That's good survivalist material.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:39:10 am
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 01:34:38 am
Come on Rilder, have you really spent your whole life so far from cities that you've never heard of Day Laborers?  That's what "Independent Contractor" euphemistically refers to - he used to be a guy who builds houses on a day-by-day cash payment.  That's good survivalist material.

Well I just needed a bit of clarification, since all the rest seemed specialized to hell instead of general working class lads, I just figured he was also specialized to hell in some obscure craft.

Looks like he's gonna be the guy that everybody else tells what to do then heh.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 12, 2009, 01:58:28 am
I'd guess he'll be more the sort who actually does the things rather than talks about it.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Ampersand on July 13, 2009, 03:41:07 am
Quote from: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:39:10 am
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 01:34:38 am
Come on Rilder, have you really spent your whole life so far from cities that you've never heard of Day Laborers?  That's what "Independent Contractor" euphemistically refers to - he used to be a guy who builds houses on a day-by-day cash payment.  That's good survivalist material.

Well I just needed a bit of clarification, since all the rest seemed specialized to hell instead of general working class lads, I just figured he was also specialized to hell in some obscure craft.

Looks like he's gonna be the guy that everybody else tells what to do then heh.

Psh. He'll probably end up kicking the most ass on the show. I mean, just yesterday the house behind mine was getting it's roof repaired by about four day laborers, standing on the roof without any safety equipment, over hot black tar, handling heavy nail guns, in 108 degrees, in direct sunlight.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 13, 2009, 03:46:49 am
Quote from: Ampersand on July 13, 2009, 03:41:07 am
Psh. He'll probably end up kicking the most ass on the show. I mean, just yesterday the house behind mine was getting it's roof repaired by about four day laborers, standing on the roof without any safety equipment, over hot black tar, handling heavy nail guns, in 108 degrees, in direct sunlight.

Exactly.  When the end comes, I'll make my stand right here in the barrio.  People who know how to grow gardens, raise animals, build shit, live with minimal electricity and no running water, can take some heat or a punch, and recognize the value of community.  In other words, be ready to live in a dusty, pastoral commune with people who came from such a place.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 13, 2009, 04:21:21 am
This proves it we need to start a Bay 12 games reality show.

We'll take 7 random volunteer dwarf fortress players and throw them on a mountain and then film what happens.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Ampersand on July 13, 2009, 04:25:29 am
We will dig a large hole in the ground, move all our stuff in it, and slowly begin to delve into madness.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 13, 2009, 04:27:46 am
I'll build a machine-gun nest!
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 13, 2009, 04:30:15 am
Oh somebody just start the damn forum game already!  I'm busy running a Bay 12 reality show in the Sims.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Armok on July 13, 2009, 09:49:42 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 13, 2009, 04:30:15 am
Oh somebody just start the damn forum game already!  I'm busy running a Bay 12 reality show in the Sims.
Seconded.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: ousire on July 13, 2009, 10:10:04 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 13, 2009, 04:30:15 am
a Bay 12 reality show in the Sims.

that sounds awsome, do share details.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 13, 2009, 11:08:33 pm
Quote from: Armok on July 13, 2009, 09:49:42 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 13, 2009, 04:30:15 am
Oh somebody just start the damn forum game already!  I'm busy running a Bay 12 reality show in the Sims.
Seconded.

I really hate you two, you know that? Whichever of you two is up, do PM me, let's get this game started.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on July 14, 2009, 12:46:42 am
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=38785.msg652905#new (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=38785.msg652905#new)
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Broose on July 14, 2009, 04:28:18 am
If the apocalypse started, I would get a gun, a portable stereo, and a Rush CD. Then I'd go on the roof and KICK SOME ASS FUCK YEAH!
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Ampersand on July 14, 2009, 08:14:25 am
By the way, Broose you are the first hit on google and google image search for Pilfering Gatorhead.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Broose on July 14, 2009, 01:03:39 pm
Quote from: Ampersand on July 14, 2009, 08:14:25 am
By the way, Broose you are the first hit on google and google image search for Pilfering Gatorhead.

My friend made the picture, let me link you to his photobucket, bro.

http://s206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/Aeazer/



Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Ampersand on July 15, 2009, 12:10:50 pm
Is your friend's last name Dali by any chance?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Broose on July 16, 2009, 04:39:56 am
Quote from: Ampersand on July 15, 2009, 12:10:50 pm
Is your friend's last name Dali by any chance?

No. Any reason you are suddenly interested in my avatar?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Ampersand on July 16, 2009, 06:21:26 am
I was comparing your friend's art to that of Salvador Dali.

But beyond that, the whole style of it seemed vaguely familiar. Like I'd seen it before or something.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 21, 2009, 07:35:38 pm
Bumpin' Thread to remind those interested that the show airs tonight.

What shall we vote on?  Ratio of bullcrap characterization to semi-meaningful psychobabble?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: ToonyMan on July 21, 2009, 07:44:21 pm
I hope there's zombies...or atleast flying nuns.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Servant Corps on July 21, 2009, 07:45:56 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 21, 2009, 07:35:38 pm
What shall we vote on?  Ratio of bullcrap characterization to semi-meaningful psychobabble?

6:5.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zironic on July 21, 2009, 10:12:19 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on July 11, 2009, 11:33:19 pm
There would still be loads of store clerks, bus drivers, airline pilots, state troopers, road workers, and unemployed drifters.  Especially in America, you'd have to nuke the crap out of everything to do more than dent the population, since we're so spread out over semi-small towns and exurbs.

I'm pretty sure that's why the show went with a virus as an explanation.  Pretty good chance of killing everybody, regardless of occupation or geography unless you're already hiding way out in the woods.  That said, I'll be very interested to see how well these guys do, because if such a hand picked crew of born improvisers can't hack it, we're all fucked.

A sword?  What, do you think the Humungus is going to roll up and shout "Stand And Deliver!"  And no, kevlar is not cut proof.  In fact, that's one of it's most commonly cited shortcomings as police armor.  Not that I would skin a deer with something as unwieldy as a sword either.

Wrong, their overconfidence and knowledge, they are more likely to attempt things that offer long term rewards. Surviving people that aren't special would survive day to day, eventually thinning to a very hardy part of society which would recreate.

Quote from: Aqizzar on July 12, 2009, 01:23:29 am
Quote from: Rilder on July 12, 2009, 01:14:39 am
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/bios/

How does any of these professions, except doctor, have to do with survival?

Like I said, there's a hell of a lot more to survival than farming.  All those mechanics and engineers would certainly come in handy for doing anything except regressing into the medieval ages.  However, the computer and martial arts people do seem rather superfluous, at least in an immediate sense.

Seriously, I would want two kinds of people - doctors who worked in africa or in a war and naturalist - person who can find running water and recognize herbs n such.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zironic on July 21, 2009, 10:17:31 pm
oops DP
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on July 21, 2009, 10:18:40 pm
"No no.  Well yell at them, not each other."

Is Aqizzar gonna havta slap a bitch?

Serious, that's what I was thinking at that part.  Yes, that survivalist dude was going crazy and being a jackass, but there is absolutely no room in Aq's new world for neo-parenting bullcrap.

And lemme tell ya, my night wasn't complete without sexagenarian man ass.  Dr. Cohn is officially awesome.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zai on July 21, 2009, 10:20:56 pm
Well. I caught parts of it.

Michael Raines, the Inventor/"Solar Technology Tech", seemed pretty crazy. Very aggressive and controlling.

The most dwarfy guy (John Cohn, the guy with the beard) seemed to be pretty useful from what I saw, coming up with a form of socks that everybody else appeared to copy. At the end of the episode, they showed him taking a shower in the rain nude, which I imagine would be how a dwarf in DF will take showers when there isn't flowing water, once that's fully implemented.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on July 21, 2009, 11:01:14 pm
Yeah I saw the whole episode, apparently one of the engineers or something is a fisherman/hunter, so they might survive.

They should just eat that marine biologist though, probably tastes like whale.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on August 04, 2009, 10:03:49 pm
Okay, so it turned out the show is a big fat smelly bust.  Damn.  But tonight's episode had one highlight.

The Task: fishing for survival
The Place: the fetid oil slick known as the L.A. River.
The Man: old Romanian dude Vladimir
The Target: fucking carp
Weapon of Choice: bow and arrow
Response: WTF or FTW
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 10:06:08 pm
What do you mean it was "a big fat smelly bust."?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Rilder on August 04, 2009, 10:08:00 pm
Quote from: Aqizzar on August 04, 2009, 10:03:49 pm
Okay, so it turned out the show is a big fat smelly bust.  Damn.  But tonight's episode had one highlight.

The Task: fishing for survival
The Place: the fetid oil slick known as the L.A. River.
The Man: old Romanian dude Vladimir
The Target: fucking carp
Weapon of Choice: bow and arrow
Response: WTF or FTW

The camera men are obviously helping out, there's no way anybody could survive an encounter with carp without tank support and even then your pushing it.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Aqizzar on August 04, 2009, 10:09:05 pm
Quote from: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 10:06:08 pm
What do you mean it was "a big fat smelly bust."?

I mean what could have been a really enlightening, intellectual show was instead a middle-aged version of Road Rules in a rusty warehouse.  So far, every setup of every episode has revolved around "who's the leather jackass going to scream at this time?"  I thought the Mexican would have kicked his ass by now.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 10:11:05 pm
So it's like Hulk Hogan.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zironic on August 05, 2009, 03:56:01 am
How would this show ever be realistic? It doesn't show anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
If only they recorded it.
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: HAMMERMILL on August 05, 2009, 05:11:56 am
Standford Prison Experiment is good stuff.

Anyways, in a post-apopcalyptic situation I think I'd end up dead anyways. Somebody would set fire to my house and car right off the bat, I'd get shot leaving the city, I'd die of typhoid or break my leg out in the wilderness and die of infection.

Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zironic on August 05, 2009, 07:02:44 am
I'd probably end up being eaten alive by a crazed tribe of skateboard youths (skateboard gangs haunt my area.)
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Mechanoid on August 06, 2009, 02:28:37 pm
It's not a documentary, it's a docu-drama "reality" tv show.
read: as real and original as "Big brother 30" is... [or wrestling.] a damn crap show whos' theme could be better performed by a single person uploading videos to youtube.

also
"I LIKE THAT BIKE" made me lose any respect i could've had for it.

edit - i also didn't even watch the entire show, i just watched that one youtube video with the aforementioned statement
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Tilla on August 08, 2009, 11:36:38 am
Quote from: Zironic on August 05, 2009, 03:56:01 am
How would this show ever be realistic? It doesn't show anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
If only they recorded it.
From the end of that wiki article:

In 2002, as mentioned above, the BBC conducted a similar experiment in The Experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Experiment
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Strife26 on August 19, 2009, 02:22:31 am
Everyone! There is apparently a facebook-colony game out! Anyone want to join my group?
Title: Re: The Colony - The Discovery Channel's take on the end of the world
Post by: Zironic on August 19, 2009, 01:57:30 pm
Quote from: Tilla on August 08, 2009, 11:36:38 am
Quote from: Zironic on August 05, 2009, 03:56:01 am
How would this show ever be realistic? It doesn't show anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment
If only they recorded it.
From the end of that wiki article:

In 2002, as mentioned above, the BBC conducted a similar experiment in The Experiment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Experiment
(1) Screening of participants by clinical psychologists, together with medical and police checks.

It's not a realistic test. Usually those in positions of power and those in prison both have some sort of psychological issue.