Post by: Servant Corps on August 02, 2009, 01:39:32 am
DAY 0:
Servant Corps: Roll call please.
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Little
Mr.Person
ToonyMan
Pandarsenic
Leafsnail
Zaithemaster
Xegeth
inaluct
Webadict
Servant Corps: Thank you for coming on such short notice. You represent the brighest people we have. Now, I understand some of you are unfamilar with The American Chrononauts Project. Well, the Project is right here in this very base.
Servant Corps point to the military factory.
Servant Corps: We create experimental time machines, which we then give to our most important operatives. These operatives then uses these time machines to travel through time and implement our orders. There are many events that we say are...well...plainly Un-American. Now, what if we could wipe away these events? That's what the Project is. We could get rid of terrible dictators, erase embarrsing incidents, bring world peace throughout the world! Control over time will make us hegomons.
Little: This base must be important then. How do you ensure that it is kept secure from outside threats?
Servant Corps: As you can see, the security of this project is very tight. We have conducted background checks on all of you, so we can trust that you are all loyal to the United States. But, we still want you to remain vigliant, in the off chance that our background checks failed. Our spies has revealed that the Russian Communists are interested in stealing this technology for their own cynical purposes. Just stay alert though, you should be fine.
Webadict: Well, alright. We might as well go to bed and wake up the next day to start working here.
Servant Corps: Good. I don't want us to lose time in pointless discussion.
DAY 0 ended.
NIGHT 0:
Servant Corps was murdered.
DAY 1:
You arrive to see Servant Corps' corpse. Since you do not know whar orders Servant Corps would have given you, the Project grinds to a halt! But, more importantly, the murder of Servant Corps indicate that the security of the Factory has been compromised! You must now find the culprits and put a stop to them, before the culprits kill you too!
DAY 1 begins.
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 01:46:23 am
Post by: inaluct on August 02, 2009, 02:12:10 am
So if you've ever wanted to say something to me without me being able to get a word in after, now would be a good time.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 02:59:13 am
Post by: Little on August 02, 2009, 03:07:25 am
:-* ;) :o
Post by: Mr.Person on August 02, 2009, 03:15:49 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 03:17:08 am
Speaking of seriousness, though, we should actually spend some time scumhunting instead of going about this sillyness.
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I FoS all of you. ARE YOU OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A COMMUNIST?
Post by: inaluct on August 02, 2009, 03:27:39 am
Well, lemme just say that I think some of you guys take mafia a tad too seriously. At the same time, some of you guys don't take the game seriously enough.
Also, some people here abuse rules to win games.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 02, 2009, 03:34:05 am
Well, lemme just say that I think some of you guys take mafia a tad too seriously. At the same time, some of you guys don't take the game seriously enough.
Also, some people here abuse rules to win games.
Hey now, what you call "abuse" I call "playing". There has to be something besides pure discussion and debate, right? Or would you rather just play mountainous all the time?
I FoS all of you. ARE YOU OR HAVE YOU EVER BEEN A COMMUNIST?
No, I am not and have never been a communist. Pandarsenic, same question right back at you.
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 03:42:03 am
Well, gentlemen, considering the nature of the technology available to Servant Corps's murderers, I have a feeling that one of us is already dead.
Why do you think they'll go back in time? Wouldn't attacking in the present or future be just as useful for them?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 04:47:54 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 05:02:45 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 05:18:34 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 05:30:51 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 06:41:29 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 06:54:39 am
Well, goddamn if this isn't confusing. Actually, the mafia may even try to kill one of us on night 0, since by the time we get to day 2 night 1 will be yesterday, and so anyone killed on night 0 can't be resurrected. Oh well, one of us is already dead.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 07:39:55 am
Sorry, I've just realised I made a mistake there. If they want to guarantee kills, they can only do it once every three nights. The only other choice is to attempt one kill per night until they hit the doctor, and before that the doctor can just heal any kills.... You guys are being really stupid right now.
Vote Xegeth.
You seem to be asking a lot of questions about inaluct's statement, as well somehow coming up with a "solution."
Also, explain who you think is scum.
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 08:01:55 am
You seem to be asking a lot of questions about inaluct's statement, as well somehow coming up with a "solution."
Also, explain who you think is scum.
The only questions I asked that were directed at inaluct were in my second post and I asked those because there was very little else to comment on. Everything else I was directing at Pandarsenic's comments about stacking kills. I wasn't attempting to give a solution, but just to try to predict how the communists would act.
So far, it seems like there's been very few people actually scumhunting or trying to look like they are so I don't have any ideas for the moment. For now, I'll vote ToonyMan because he hasn't posted yet.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 08:11:46 am
There are a couple of people that haven't posted yet, especially before ToonyMan on the list. Why him?You seem to be asking a lot of questions about inaluct's statement, as well somehow coming up with a "solution."
Also, explain who you think is scum.
The only questions I asked that were directed at inaluct were in my second post and I asked those because there was very little else to comment on. Everything else I was directing at Pandarsenic's comments about stacking kills. I wasn't attempting to give a solution, but just to try to predict how the communists would act.
So far, it seems like there's been very few people actually scumhunting or trying to look like they are so I don't have any ideas for the moment. For now, I'll vote ToonyMan because he hasn't posted yet.
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 08:21:27 am
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 08:48:55 am
So far, only two people haven't posted, ToonyMan and Zaithemaster. Toonyman was the first on the list out of the two of them.Oh. I thought Mr.Person hadn't posted. Seems he posted twice. Well then, maybe you should say who you think is the most suspicious? Instead of avoiding the question...
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 08:56:52 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 09:03:19 am
So far, only two people haven't posted, ToonyMan and Zaithemaster. Toonyman was the first on the list out of the two of them.Oh. I thought Mr.Person hadn't posted. Seems he posted twice. Well then, maybe you should say who you think is the most suspicious? Instead of avoiding the question...
Maybe Little? He's only made one post and it didn't contain any useful content. As I've already said though, I have no real suspicions at the moment.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 09:08:18 am
That was enough, thank you. I'd like Pandarsenic to explain his suspicions.So far, only two people haven't posted, ToonyMan and Zaithemaster. Toonyman was the first on the list out of the two of them.Oh. I thought Mr.Person hadn't posted. Seems he posted twice. Well then, maybe you should say who you think is the most suspicious? Instead of avoiding the question...
Maybe Little? He's only made one post and it didn't contain any useful content. As I've already said though, I have no real suspicions at the moment.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 09:22:58 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 09:57:33 am
This game is going to be so weird.
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 10:09:48 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 10:13:42 am
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 10:52:59 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 11:05:22 am
Vote ToonyMan. It's him.
You seem a bit sure that it's him after only two posts. I think I'll wait until I've heard what ToonyMan has to say for himself. Maybe you could explain how you're so sure?
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 11:13:45 am
Let him explain, and I'll show you.Vote ToonyMan. It's him.
You seem a bit sure that it's him after only two posts. I think I'll wait until I've heard what ToonyMan has to say for himself. Maybe you could explain how you're so sure?
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 12:11:02 pm
I actually agree with webadict right now. He's acting differently from what I've seen of him in other Mafias, which is not much considering he started playing after I "took a break." But for now, only FoS ToonyMan.
I vote Little because his single post so far was a nonsense post.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 12:21:23 pm
I might have to FoS Little for now (due to not having posted anything meaningful on this thread so far), but I know that voting for someone with no reason will make me hated by that person for the rest of the game, so I still abstain.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 12:23:22 pm
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 12:28:05 pm
webadict is just trying to make me break down or something. I can't say anything except I'm not scum. Although, he seems quite jumpy after I posted. Maybe he's trying to throw suspicion off himself?Break down? Never. No one breaks down until the very end when it's hopeless. You are, however, scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 12:28:49 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 12:31:03 pm
Or something.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 12:32:51 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 12:34:23 pm
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 12:46:48 pm
I found the thread when I saw the PM, I was sleeping beforehand. :-\That's funny, considering you were able to post in another thread plenty of time beforehand.
Time for some homework. Your first post was:
Just the usually baseless accusations. I don't see any suspicious behavior yet.10:13 AM (My time)
So, you didn't see it until then, even though you were on at...
It's like when you're playing those stupid kill everyone missions in CoH and then you can't find the last guy. Stupid hidden lurker guy!My god! That says 9:53 AM (My time)! So, either you ignored it, or you spent 20 minutes constructing an adequate response. Take your pick. But, you're scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 12:49:50 pm
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 12:55:27 pm
Come on guys I didn't see the message [1] thing. The sleeping thing I just said was a joke. Stop trying to get a town killed already, like you always do webadict.I always get town killed, now do I? That seems a bit drastic to say. Can you be more specific as to which town I kill?
Post by: Mr.Person on August 02, 2009, 12:58:00 pm
So we've all posted. Guess that's the lurker vote idea out the window.
I might have to FoS Little for now (due to not having posted anything meaningful on this thread so far), but I know that voting for someone with no reason will make me hated by that person for the rest of the game, so I still abstain.
That's the scummiest thing I've ever seen. You don't want to vote (and deny the town info) because you don't want to look suspicious? Vote Leafsnail. At least put forth your thoughts, if nothing else.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 01:03:06 pm
Thank you, Mr.Person, for additional support in scumhunting. I also agree that this post is indeed scummy. Leafsnail, just because somebody posts, does not count as them not lurking. You can lurk very easily, in fact, by saying very average things and going along with a crowd. It's called active lurking. Just because you're active does not stop you from lurking.So we've all posted. Guess that's the lurker vote idea out the window.
I might have to FoS Little for now (due to not having posted anything meaningful on this thread so far), but I know that voting for someone with no reason will make me hated by that person for the rest of the game, so I still abstain.
That's the scummiest thing I've ever seen. You don't want to vote (and deny the town info) because you don't want to look suspicious? Vote Leafsnail. At least put forth your thoughts, if nothing else.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 01:12:48 pm
Come on guys I didn't see the message [1] thing. The sleeping thing I just said was a joke. Stop trying to get a town killed already, like you always do webadict.I always get town killed, now do I? That seems a bit drastic to say. Can you be more specific as to which town I kill?
Saying anything else just makes me more suspicious, I know how this works. Even saying this is suspicious now isn't it?
Post by: Xegeth on August 02, 2009, 01:14:01 pm
Time for some homework. Your first post was:Just the usually baseless accusations. I don't see any suspicious behavior yet.10:13 AM (My time)
So, you didn't see it until then, even though you were on at...It's like when you're playing those stupid kill everyone missions in CoH and then you can't find the last guy. Stupid hidden lurker guy!
Webadict, his first post was this:
I didn't see this thread! Sorry!!! I'm here. ;D
This game is going to be so weird.
He only took 4 minutes to notice the PM. His second post was just a response to mine.
I think I'm going to vote for Leafsnail for that comment but I will FoS Little.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 01:15:11 pm
Post by: inaluct on August 02, 2009, 01:15:47 pm
Ninja'd. :I
As for Toonyman, I agree that his posting style seems unusual, but I'm not really suspicious enough of him to vote yet.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 01:18:04 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 01:21:17 pm
;D
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 01:34:59 pm
Fair enough then, I don't know the terminology very well. I understand Mr. Person's suspicions, so I won't do a standard OMGUS vote. I personally agree with Webadict, especially since Toonyman has now resorted to calling what he did earlier a "Joke" (often a scum tell). Therefore I vote Toonyman, and ask him why he decided to lie to us previously.
Bandwagoning just because other people want you to vote? FoS Leafsnail
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 01:35:20 pm
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 01:38:11 pm
I'll be honest Toony, a flat OMGUS accusation with no supporting evidence isn't very helpful.
What he said was obviously him joking around. Notice the "RARRR!" and smiley.
But you're right. He isn't being helpful at all, except perhaps by digging his own trench deeper.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 01:40:33 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 01:42:32 pm
webadict is always scum when he does this, or atleast being a foolish townie. I read all the Paranormals, I've seen this in action. I'm starting to think if I should role-claim so you don't get the wrong guy lynched.I'm not sure what you mean by "Does this". He just seems to be pointing out what he thinks is scummy about your posts, which is something he and a lot of other players regularly do. I'm not convinced about your guilt, or, indeed, his innocence, but some of what you've said seems to be rather odd.
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 01:49:05 pm
Roleclaim wouldn't do much except probably bring WIFOM into play.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 02:17:43 pm
That seems to be my bad. I thought it seemed odd.Time for some homework. Your first post was:Just the usually baseless accusations. I don't see any suspicious behavior yet.10:13 AM (My time)
So, you didn't see it until then, even though you were on at...It's like when you're playing those stupid kill everyone missions in CoH and then you can't find the last guy. Stupid hidden lurker guy!
Webadict, his first post was this:I didn't see this thread! Sorry!!! I'm here. ;D
This game is going to be so weird.
He only took 4 minutes to notice the PM. His second post was just a response to mine.
I think I'm going to vote for Leafsnail for that comment but I will FoS Little.
The funny thing is that you, ToonyMan, didn't seem to notice that little blunder. Heck, I probably could've made something up and you would've had no retort for it.Come on guys I didn't see the message [1] thing. The sleeping thing I just said was a joke. Stop trying to get a town killed already, like you always do webadict.I always get town killed, now do I? That seems a bit drastic to say. Can you be more specific as to which town I kill?
Saying anything else just makes me more suspicious, I know how this works. Even saying this is suspicious now isn't it?
webadict is always scum when he does this, or atleast being a foolish townie. I read all the Paranormals, I've seen this in action. I'm starting to think if I should role-claim so you don't get the wrong guy lynched.Your sentence contains a paradox in that you say I'm always scum, unless I'm a townie. You should probably fix that to make sense.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 03:14:17 pm
Also, is there any actual confirmation on roles? I only found this on the other thread -
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7) There is no Cult. Only Mafia, Town, and the possible Serial Killer. (EDIT: I am also considering a Survivor character too)
And, of course, since the kills will be done at different times, we won't be able to work out if there's a serial killer just by counting the bodies each night.
Also, we of course get no roleflips, so we will be sortof firing in the dark.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 03:19:28 pm
By the way, I've just realised that the time travel element of this round may end up being less important than we originally thought it would be. This is because if you just set any actions you do to yesterday, there will be no way of undoing them. Just to make sure noone gets complacent thinking that the doctor can resurrect them no matter what.Yes, that is why I was saying they were dumb. If there is someone that can kill in the past, then it won't matter what we do in the present. However, there might not be a person that kills in the past. There might be a person that can only kill in the future. Or a person that can only kill in the present. Servant Corps wasn't very clear on what roles there are, but he never said they could always go to the same point.
Also, is there any actual confirmation on roles? I only found this on the other thread -Quote7) There is no Cult. Only Mafia, Town, and the possible Serial Killer. (EDIT: I am also considering a Survivor character too)
And, of course, since the kills will be done at different times, we won't be able to work out if there's a serial killer just by counting the bodies each night.
Also, we of course get no roleflips, so we will be sortof firing in the dark.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 02, 2009, 03:46:31 pm
I'm docter by-the-way. Might as well while I can.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 04:28:33 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 02, 2009, 04:31:51 pm
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 04:40:31 pm
Does anyone else think this looks like a great, elaborate Webadict-bussing-Toonyman thing?
I can see how could see that. But I still agree with him
Scratch that. I just reread the last few posts from TM, and my certainty has been renewed. I'm still voting for TM.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 05:32:01 pm
Does anyone else think this looks like a great, elaborate Webadict-bussing-Toonyman thing?That's some far-out thinking. I don't really like bussing. And the last time I had to bus someone it was myself. In Round... 3? Yeah, I think it was 3. I had to bus myself to save Frelock.
Especially in an unknown role game, that'd be a really bad idea.
Sorry all, lighting struck near my house after I posted that last message, I don't have much time right now. A neighbor was kind enough to lend me her computer. My internet is destroyed. I won't get it back until tuesday or wensday. Sorry. :(And just so everyone knows, I hate doctor claims! Not because they're scum tells, but because he might be telling the truth but he'll still die tonight.
I'm docter by-the-way. Might as well while I can.
Post by: Servant Corps on August 02, 2009, 05:44:54 pm
Toonyman = webadict, Leafsnail, Zaithemaster
Leafsnail=Mr.Person, Xegeth
All power roles, remember to send in your orders to me before I declare the end of Day 1.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 02, 2009, 06:10:37 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 02, 2009, 10:45:53 pm
Post by: Zai on August 02, 2009, 10:58:16 pm
Why are you guys voting to lynch the doctor? If he's scum, he'll live til tomorrow. If he's not scum, the scum will kill him. In this game, a doctor can revive people. There's no way in hell the scum would allow a real, claimed doctor to survive the night. Don't think of a doctor as a doctor in this game, think of a doctor as a guy who can revive other people the night after they die.
Because it reeks of WIFOM. I personally am going by how he's acted, not what role he claims in a last-ditch-effort to have.
Post by: Little on August 02, 2009, 11:22:24 pm
Also, I would vote Toonyman for his ridiculous claim that he is Doctor, but I still haven't gathered enough satisfactory evidence to cast a vote with any certainty. We need to rationally think this out, people.
Post by: webadict on August 02, 2009, 11:33:39 pm
Sorry, I was busy entertaining cousins all day. Having glanced over the dialogue, I have to ask: why the hell are people randomly voting me? :-\You didn't glance too hard, did you? You're not being voted AT ALL right now...
Also, I would vote Toonyman for his ridiculous claim that he is Doctor, but I still haven't gathered enough satisfactory evidence to cast a vote with an certainty. We need to rationally think this out, people.
Post by: Zai on August 03, 2009, 12:09:47 am
why the hell are people randomly voting me? :-\
You had only posted one post, and it held no actual content in it.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 03, 2009, 12:25:34 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 03, 2009, 01:17:34 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 05:06:09 am
Why are you guys voting to lynch the doctor? If he's scum, he'll live til tomorrow. If he's not scum, the scum will kill him. In this game, a doctor can revive people. There's no way in hell the scum would allow a real, claimed doctor to survive the night. Don't think of a doctor as a doctor in this game, think of a doctor as a guy who can revive other people the night after they die.The time travel element of this game means it's not that simple. He could be killed yesterday or even night 2 (so if the mafia decide to kill him night 2 we'd end up lynching him anyway). Simply claiming doc at the last minute isn't helpful - if we don't lynch him and we're correct in not lynching him, he will die anyway.
Post by: Xegeth on August 03, 2009, 06:37:37 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 06:41:47 am
I think I'm going to unvote and vote for ToonyMan. I'm not convinced he is mafia, but if the mafia decide to revive him, he would be even more suspicious than he is now and we would probably waste a day lynching him again.How could the mafia revive him? If he's lynched, there's pretty much no way he can be revived, unless the mafia has enough nightkills to change which way this vote wemt.
Post by: Xegeth on August 03, 2009, 07:05:28 am
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 08:14:26 am
All it would have taken is one person changing their vote from ToonyMan to you. Unlikely, but it's better to be sure they'll not try anything like that.Well then, that's a good sign that you're mafia and know that you can go back in time to kill.
Post by: Xegeth on August 03, 2009, 08:33:45 am
Quote from: Servant Corps
3) All Power Roles have access to Time Travel. They may choose to use their Power in the past (Last Night), the present (the Present Night), and the future (the Next night).
I was just assuming the rules hadn't been changed because I haven't seen Servant Corps mention that he has modified time travel.
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 08:36:04 am
Hmm... good call.Quote from: Servant Corps3) All Power Roles have access to Time Travel. They may choose to use their Power in the past (Last Night), the present (the Present Night), and the future (the Next night).
I was just assuming the rules hadn't been changed because I haven't seen Servant Corps mention that he has modified time travel.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 08:51:01 am
And, of course, there are no roleflips in this game, for added confusion.
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 09:03:50 am
Which, strangely, means that one of us is probably dead already, and our vote won't count. Since all kills can be done the night before, doctors wouldn't be as powerful as we previously thought (we thought that the doctor could resurrect anyone, but he's powerless if the kill was already set to "yesterday").That is where you're wrong. Doctors simply have to work in the past, always. Otherwise, they are powerless. In fact, wouldn't it be better if every power went into the past? That was it couldn't be stopped... Now it's just about getting n+2 people to vote against scum than the n+1 that we thought. So, it's just that scum has much much more ability than normal.
And, of course, there are no roleflips in this game, for added confusion.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 09:13:55 am
Actually, if the doctor did decide to work in the present, he would have a greater chance of blocking the mafia's next nightkill.
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 09:24:41 am
Hmm, indeed.Not really, since being killed in the past would stop them from protecting in the present...
Actually, if the doctor did decide to work in the present, he would have a greater chance of blocking the mafia's next nightkill.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 09:28:46 am
Ok, this is confusing.
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 09:55:59 am
Being killed in the past would also stop them protecting in the past though, since they wouldn't be able to go back in time and protect in the past.Yeah, I actually thought of that later, too. These rules are confusing.
Ok, this is confusing.
Basically, if we have a Vigilante, and he kills a mafia member in the past that kills a townie in the present. Therefore, he stops a kill from happening by being really really lucky.
This game is too influenced by power roles...
Post by: Mr.Person on August 03, 2009, 03:37:11 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on August 03, 2009, 03:50:36 pm
(EDIT: But if you kill someone one night, they won't be able to protect anyone the next night.)
Post by: Leafsnail on August 03, 2009, 04:43:31 pm
Protection occur before killing though. So, a Doctor could protect someone one night and then get killed later on that same night.Yeah, but if he's killed on the previous night then he won't be able to protect someone.
Post by: inaluct on August 03, 2009, 05:11:32 pm
Post by: webadict on August 03, 2009, 08:52:15 pm
Post by: Zai on August 03, 2009, 09:24:17 pm
When is Day 1 ending?
Post by: Little on August 03, 2009, 10:35:00 pm
Post by: Zai on August 03, 2009, 11:15:36 pm
Can doctors revive lynch victims? Because then it'd be confirmed they were townie and you'd be able to build a stable base built around the Townie like in the LOTRM Mafia.
How would them being lynched confirm they're townies? That just confirms that the popular vote wanted them dead.
Retroactively FoS Mr.Person for his defense of TM.
Post by: Servant Corps on August 04, 2009, 12:27:01 am
Can doctors revive lynch victims?
No.
And I'll need to do a offical vote tally, and wait for the last Power Role to send me his order before I end Day 1.
Post by: Little on August 04, 2009, 12:40:27 am
Can doctors revive lynch victims? Because then it'd be confirmed they were townie and you'd be able to build a stable base built around the Townie like in the LOTRM Mafia.
How would them being lynched confirm they're townies? That just confirms that the popular vote wanted them dead.
Traditionally in Mafia games, a Player's role is revealed when he dies.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 04, 2009, 12:44:29 am
Post by: Little on August 04, 2009, 12:54:35 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 04, 2009, 01:08:20 am
Post by: Zai on August 04, 2009, 01:01:04 pm
Can doctors revive lynch victims? Because then it'd be confirmed they were townie and you'd be able to build a stable base built around the Townie like in the LOTRM Mafia.
How would them being lynched confirm they're townies? That just confirms that the popular vote wanted them dead.
Traditionally in Mafia games, a Player's role is revealed when he dies.
SC has already said there would be no roleflip.
Pseudo-FoS Little
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 02:19:45 pm
Post by: Zai on August 04, 2009, 02:30:34 pm
WHEN IS DAY 1 ENDING?
I already asked this, but you didn't respond. So now it gets ALL CAPS.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 02:36:48 pm
My Little Suspicion:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you are going to base lynches on who is lurking, here's one. I see little of anything. Hee hee.
My Leafsnail Suspicion:
Agh, I can't quote everything he said.
Anyway, he keeps talking about how "this is confusing" to webadict and asks too suspicious questions! I think webadict and/or Leafsnail and/or Little is scum.
Well, yeah, umm....tell my grandmother I will miss her apple pies.
Vote Leafsnail.
Post by: Servant Corps on August 04, 2009, 03:24:50 pm
SERVANT CORPS
WHEN IS DAY 1 ENDING?
I already asked this, but you didn't respond. So now it gets ALL CAPS.
I'm waiting for two power roles to send me their actions. But you know what...
YOU GOT UNTIL TOMORROW TO SEND IN YOUR POWER ROLES ACTIONS. UNDERSTAND?
EDIT: Updated Vote Count (from earliet to latest):
Toonyman = webadict, Leafsnail, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Xegeth
Leafsnail=Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Post by: Xegeth on August 04, 2009, 03:44:20 pm
Quote from: Leafsnail
'll be away from Tuesday and -
Eh, what the hell, I'll probably be dead by then.
Unless they've changed their mind, this could cause delays. Will this affect the game much, Servant Corps?
Post by: Servant Corps on August 04, 2009, 03:59:34 pm
In the signup thread, Leafsnail saidQuote from: Leafsnail'll be away from Tuesday and -
Eh, what the hell, I'll probably be dead by then.
Unless they've changed their mind, this could cause delays. Will this affect the game much, Servant Corps?
No it will not. Those who already going away would have likely already sent orders to me before leaving.
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2009, 04:48:43 pm
I'm most suspicious of Little and Leafsnail. I would be suspicious of webadict, but that's like OMGUS or something.So, you think Leafsnail is more suspicious than Little?
My Little Suspicion:Spoiler (click to show/hide)
If you are going to base lynches on who is lurking, here's one. I see little of anything. Hee hee.
My Leafsnail Suspicion:
Agh, I can't quote everything he said.
Anyway, he keeps talking about how "this is confusing" to webadict and asks too suspicious questions! I think webadict and/or Leafsnail and/or Little is scum.
Well, yeah, umm....tell my grandmother I will miss her apple pies.
Vote Leafsnail.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 04:49:21 pm
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2009, 05:01:29 pm
Yeah, about. I had to choose one.What makes him more suspicious?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 05:02:55 pm
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2009, 05:04:15 pm
He speaks to yooooooooooou. ;DSo it's more like I'm suspicious and not Little or Leafsnail?
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 05:06:26 pm
Doesn't matter who I vote anyway.
Unvote.
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2009, 05:07:15 pm
I didn't say that. No. I'm just upset you think I'm scum. Pretty normal for me atleast.It actually matters a lot on who you vote.
Doesn't matter who I vote anyway.
Unvote.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 05:08:07 pm
Post by: webadict on August 04, 2009, 05:11:15 pm
Don't do your jedi mind tricks webadict, I know your power.You know what the funny thing is? There is a way to make your role known. Have a cop go back in time and inspect you.
Also, I don't have Jedi powers. *hand wave*
Post by: ToonyMan on August 04, 2009, 05:11:49 pm
Post by: webadict on August 05, 2009, 10:00:05 am
He actually did something. ToonyMan. Who'da thunk it?
Post by: Servant Corps on August 05, 2009, 10:14:49 am
Quote
Toonyman = Leafsnail, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Xegeth
Leafsnail = Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Little = webadict
ToonyMan has been executed. You return home, safe that you have caught at least one of the murderers.
NIGHT 1:
{TIMELINE CHANGED!}
NIGHT 0:
Servant Corps killed.
webadict killed.
DAY 1:
Final Vote Count:
Quote
Toonyman = Leafsnail, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Xegeth
Leafsnail = Mr.Person, ToonyMan
ToonyMan has been executed. You return home, safe that you have caught at least one of the murderers.
NIGHT 1:
Nothing happens.
It is now DAY 2.
Post by: Xegeth on August 05, 2009, 11:17:54 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 05, 2009, 11:40:42 am
Post by: Little on August 05, 2009, 03:09:13 pm
Fine, since you all seem so intent on hanging me, I'll reveal my role.
I claim as The Doctor. Since you all seem to be set on killing me, it won't matter either way whether I reveal or not.
Post by: Xegeth on August 05, 2009, 03:47:45 pm
:-[
Fine, since you all seem so intent on hanging me, I'll reveal my role.
I claim as The Doctor. Since you all seem to be set on killing me, it won't matter either way whether I reveal or not.
If you are the doctor, who did you protect last night? Also, why did you not vote? You were the one pro-town player that knew for a fact that he was lying but you said you needed more evidence. For that reason, along with your lack of any other scumhunting, I think lynching you would be a good idea.
Post by: Little on August 05, 2009, 03:55:12 pm
And I thought TM was joking when he claimed he was The Doctor.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 05, 2009, 04:00:16 pm
Post by: Xegeth on August 05, 2009, 04:14:39 pm
Post by: Zai on August 05, 2009, 04:19:21 pm
You were the one pro-town player that knew for a fact that he was lying but you said you needed more evidence. For that reason, I think lynching you would be a good idea.
This.
I vote Little. And FoS Mr.Person for continued unquestioned defense of him.
Both are scum. I'm about 75% sure. Which is more than enough to lynch them.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 05, 2009, 04:34:18 pm
Post by: Xegeth on August 05, 2009, 04:40:23 pm
Post by: Little on August 05, 2009, 04:47:40 pm
Post by: Xegeth on August 05, 2009, 05:00:06 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 05, 2009, 06:13:23 pm
If he was legit, he should have voted for Toony, even without making a counterclaim.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 06, 2009, 12:18:25 pm
So yeah, vote Little.
I'm also gonna FoS Mr. Person for this:
Why would the scum fake claim doctor after we already lynched a guy claiming doctor? And you're fishing for info? Vote Xegeth.Has he really missed the potential WIFOM here?
Post by: Mr.Person on August 06, 2009, 01:11:16 pm
Well, after rethinking it over and after listening to what people have to say, I would also agree Little is suspicious. Still, I just find it odd to lynch everybody who claims doctor, you know? Usually the scum kills the doctor, not the town, and I doubt very much that 2 members of the mafia would claim doctor like that, since the whole facade would be broken in a snap by the real doctor. On the other hand, ToonyMan might of been scum and Little might be the doctor or ToonyMan might of been the doctor and Little might be the scum. It's hard to tell.
Not protecting as a doctor... I've never seen scum try that strategy before. Every time I've seen somebody say they protected nobody, they were, in fact, the doctor. Again, I dunno. Little, if you had protected, who and when would it have been?
Post by: Xegeth on August 06, 2009, 01:21:17 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 06, 2009, 01:22:27 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 06, 2009, 01:26:49 pm
Post by: Little on August 06, 2009, 05:02:33 pm
Fantastic. :-\
Post by: Servant Corps on August 07, 2009, 03:15:45 pm
Little: Xegeth, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Leafsnail
POWER ROLES, please send me your actions. DEAD PEOPLE, please remember to send me your votes and power roles (in case come back to life). Please?
Post by: Servant Corps on August 08, 2009, 02:49:31 am
Post by: Servant Corps on August 08, 2009, 11:14:32 am
Quote
Little: Xegeth, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Leafsnail
Little has been executed. You return home, safe that you have caught at least one of the murderers.
Night 2:
{TIMELINE CHANGED!}
NIGHT 0:
Servant Corps killed.
DAY 1:
Final Vote Count:
Quote
Toonyman = Leafsnail, Zaithemaster, Pandarsenic, Xegeth
Leafsnail = Mr.Person, ToonyMan
Little=webadict
ToonyMan has been executed. You return home, safe that you have caught at least one of the murderers.
NIGHT 1:
Zaithemaster killed.
DAY 2:
Quote
Little: Xegeth, Pandarsenic, Leafsnail, webadictLittle has been executed. You return home, safe that you have caught at least one of the murderers.
NIGHT 2:
Nothing happens.
It is now DAY 3.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 08, 2009, 11:24:35 am
Post by: Xegeth on August 08, 2009, 11:30:26 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 08, 2009, 11:33:09 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 08, 2009, 12:04:42 pm
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2009, 08:49:06 pm
Cute how Zaithemaster dies and Webadict jumps in to replace his vote.Ha ha. Yeah. Seriously though, what the heck happened?
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 08, 2009, 10:30:35 pm
Is an action to be blocked tied to the night it occurs or the night it is initiated? Like, if someone was blocked n1 and they killed on n0 from n1, would that kill be stopped?
Post by: Servant Corps on August 08, 2009, 10:33:59 pm
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Is an action to be blocked tied to the night it occurs or the night it is initiated?
The night it is initiated.
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2009, 10:45:26 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 08, 2009, 10:56:47 pm
His behavior was as scummy as we thought.
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2009, 11:13:15 pm
I sent the order "Block Mr.Person yesterday."...Anyone disagree? Because I'm thinking that's a good idea.
His behavior was as scummy as we thought.
Mr.Person
Post by: Mr.Person on August 08, 2009, 11:34:35 pm
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2009, 11:37:45 pm
Alright, yes, I killed Webadict. I am, however, not the scum you think I am. I am a vigilante. Note that, despite me being blocked, Zaithemaster was still killed. The real scum is there, and I want to find that person. In face, Webadict was the one who awoke, yes? Vote Webadict. I believe I got it right the first time.So... you're saying that somehow you were the ONLY person that killed? Scum didn't do anything, despite the two "doctors," one claiming they protected no one and the other dead. I highly doubt that. In fact, that's pretty spectacularly bogus.
That's an outstanding claim if ever I saw one...
Post by: Mr.Person on August 08, 2009, 11:39:59 pm
Alright, yes, I killed Webadict. I am, however, not the scum you think I am. I am a vigilante. Note that, despite me being blocked, Zaithemaster was still killed. The real scum is there, and I want to find that person. In face, Webadict was the one who awoke, yes? Vote Webadict. I believe I got it right the first time.So... you're saying that somehow you were the ONLY person that killed? Scum didn't do anything, despite the two "doctors," one claiming they protected no one and the other dead. I highly doubt that. In fact, that's pretty spectacularly bogus.
That's an outstanding claim if ever I saw one...
They killed in the future. Easy. There's lots of WIFOM to be had in this game.
Post by: webadict on August 08, 2009, 11:58:53 pm
Why would they kill in the future?Alright, yes, I killed Webadict. I am, however, not the scum you think I am. I am a vigilante. Note that, despite me being blocked, Zaithemaster was still killed. The real scum is there, and I want to find that person. In face, Webadict was the one who awoke, yes? Vote Webadict. I believe I got it right the first time.So... you're saying that somehow you were the ONLY person that killed? Scum didn't do anything, despite the two "doctors," one claiming they protected no one and the other dead. I highly doubt that. In fact, that's pretty spectacularly bogus.
That's an outstanding claim if ever I saw one...
They killed in the future. Easy. There's lots of WIFOM to be had in this game.
Also, if that were true, wouldn't somebody have died last night? Nice job, though. You tried at least, to defer away from yourself. Everyone vote Mr.Person.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 12:05:20 am
Why would they kill in the future?Alright, yes, I killed Webadict. I am, however, not the scum you think I am. I am a vigilante. Note that, despite me being blocked, Zaithemaster was still killed. The real scum is there, and I want to find that person. In face, Webadict was the one who awoke, yes? Vote Webadict. I believe I got it right the first time.So... you're saying that somehow you were the ONLY person that killed? Scum didn't do anything, despite the two "doctors," one claiming they protected no one and the other dead. I highly doubt that. In fact, that's pretty spectacularly bogus.
That's an outstanding claim if ever I saw one...
They killed in the future. Easy. There's lots of WIFOM to be had in this game.
Also, if that were true, wouldn't somebody have died last night? Nice job, though. You tried at least, to defer away from yourself. Everyone vote Mr.Person.
Am I the only one bugged out by the fact that Webadict was revived and THEN a kill happened AFTERWARDS? Also, I do not know the inner working of the scum mind, but since they're fairly confident the doctor is dead, killing in the future actually makes sense. It looms kills over the town, but it also forces the town to lynch with more people than otherwise necessary.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2009, 12:13:00 am
n0 webadict died (and returned)
d1 I issued order "block webadict tonight"
n1 Mr. Person issued kill on Webadict, my d2 roleblock landed on Mr.Person, my d1 roleblock landed on webadict
d2 We're voting to lynch Mr.Person
So webadict can't be our murderer, can he?
Post by: Little on August 09, 2009, 12:14:55 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2009, 12:19:46 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 12:23:33 am
Little, how could I have revived Webadict, then?Luck. Well, I guess I WAS acting scummy, so it might of been the attention I've been drawing to myself.
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2009, 12:23:58 am
Or Pandar could be Mafia and covering for him.
Little, how could I have revived Webadict, then?... Mr.Person, you, and I are obviously working together.
And Little. You're dead. Get out of here, time paradox!
Post by: Xegeth on August 09, 2009, 01:05:17 am
Post by: Servant Corps on August 09, 2009, 01:06:42 am
Or Pandar could be Mafia and covering for him.
Little, you're dead.
Post by: Little on August 09, 2009, 01:56:53 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 09, 2009, 05:50:00 am
Night one - Mr Person goes back in time one night and kills webadict
Night two - Mr Person goes back in time one night and kills zai. Pandar blocks Mr Person one night in the past, resurrecting Webadict.
So, Pandar, if you wouldn't mind roleblocking Mr Person one night in the past once again?
Vote Mr Person.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2009, 07:44:37 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 10:28:19 am
Why would the scum be so hesitant about doctors? The doctor(s) is/are dead. There are no more doctors. You guys lynched the doctor(s).
Post by: Xegeth on August 09, 2009, 10:42:43 am
If you don't want me to kill anymore, I won't, but there's another killer who hasn't claimed out there. There's your real scum, right there.
Why would the scum be so hesitant about doctors? The doctor(s) is/are dead. There are no more doctors. You guys lynched the doctor(s).
How is there another killer? As far as I can tell, this could have all been done with just mafia using their night kills.
You also mentioned that you were confused about webadict being revived first and then a death occurring. The rules in the signup thread stated that roleblocks happen before kills.
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2009, 11:05:50 am
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 11:13:42 am
If you don't want me to kill anymore, I won't, but there's another killer who hasn't claimed out there. There's your real scum, right there.
Why would the scum be so hesitant about doctors? The doctor(s) is/are dead. There are no more doctors. You guys lynched the doctor(s).
How is there another killer? As far as I can tell, this could have all been done with just mafia using their night kills.
You also mentioned that you were confused about webadict being revived first and then a death occurring. The rules in the signup thread stated that roleblocks happen before kills.
Zaithemaster died. Did everybody else miss that?
Post by: Leafsnail on August 09, 2009, 11:16:14 am
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2009, 11:17:44 am
I actually did not. I'm sorry. The timeline is hard to see, but the fact that I know I'm town and that you killed me is very good evidence.If you don't want me to kill anymore, I won't, but there's another killer who hasn't claimed out there. There's your real scum, right there.
Why would the scum be so hesitant about doctors? The doctor(s) is/are dead. There are no more doctors. You guys lynched the doctor(s).
How is there another killer? As far as I can tell, this could have all been done with just mafia using their night kills.
You also mentioned that you were confused about webadict being revived first and then a death occurring. The rules in the signup thread stated that roleblocks happen before kills.
Zaithemaster died. Did everybody else miss that?
Unless you think the scum killed in the present...? I really really doubt it...
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 11:28:38 am
I actually did not. I'm sorry. The timeline is hard to see, but the fact that I know I'm town and that you killed me is very good evidence.If you don't want me to kill anymore, I won't, but there's another killer who hasn't claimed out there. There's your real scum, right there.
Why would the scum be so hesitant about doctors? The doctor(s) is/are dead. There are no more doctors. You guys lynched the doctor(s).
How is there another killer? As far as I can tell, this could have all been done with just mafia using their night kills.
You also mentioned that you were confused about webadict being revived first and then a death occurring. The rules in the signup thread stated that roleblocks happen before kills.
Zaithemaster died. Did everybody else miss that?
Unless you think the scum killed in the present...? I really really doubt it...
I think the scum killed in the future. No need to worry about doctor kills, forces the town to lynch with the largest number possible, and allows for 3 kills in one night, if the scum wants to for some reason.
Post by: webadict on August 09, 2009, 12:45:38 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on August 09, 2009, 02:14:34 pm
You're crazy, Mr.Person. If you're the Vigilante, you should've claimed you killed me the night after you did. The fact that you didn't is stupid and scummy, and you certainly know better, because we'd be going off faulty information. I know you know better than that...
Oh, excuse me for not assuming it was a roleblocker. There clearly weren't other possibilities, oh no. I don't know of any, but that doesn't mean there weren't other possibilities. In any case, claiming the kill would only draw attention to myself and create those nasty WIFOM situations. Then again, I guess this is a WIFOM situation already, so maybe you're right.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2009, 06:30:10 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on August 09, 2009, 06:32:08 pm
So
Unvote.
Vote Mr Person.
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 09, 2009, 06:33:02 pm
Post by: Servant Corps on August 10, 2009, 01:54:12 am
So do we lynch him yet?
Yes. Mr. Person and ToonyMan are Scum working for the Time Repair Agency. Mr. Person was the Killer, ToonyMan was the Roleblocker.
For the Town, Pandarsenic was the Roleblocker, and Little was the Doctor.
This was the first game I saw where a Scum lost because he defended the Town Doctor.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 10, 2009, 02:32:06 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 10, 2009, 02:40:50 am
Good game, everyone.
When I revived Webadict, though, it was all over. The thing is, it was Mr.Person's behavior that caused me to RB him....
Post by: Xegeth on August 10, 2009, 02:51:12 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 10, 2009, 05:29:05 am
Post by: ToonyMan on August 10, 2009, 06:34:23 am
Post by: Leafsnail on August 10, 2009, 07:30:24 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 10, 2009, 08:52:28 am
Good game. I guess it was good work on Pandarsenic's part to correctly identify Mr Person as scum. Perhaps we also have to bear in mind in future games that killing somone in the past or present means that a well placed rollblock will stop you in your tracks.
Yeah, when I asked Servant Corps about the roleblocking technicality I'd never thought of (that protection affects the day something occurs but roleblocking affects the day something is initiated), it was obvious that Mr.Person was it, between the kill and his behavior.
e: I think what gave it away was how certain you were.
Post by: Mr.Person on August 10, 2009, 12:21:35 pm
Since Pandar could now go back and save Zai, I think this may be the only mafia game ever where more scum died than townies.I saw an IRC mafia where, one time, a vig shot one of the mafias and a redirector moved the mafiakill to the other one. Both scum dead n0, game over.
My favourite is one where an elite guard (Doctor that kills the would-be-killer, powerful role) guarded the same guy 2 nights in a row... and the scum attacked that guy 2 nights in a row.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 10, 2009, 12:25:11 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on August 10, 2009, 02:33:14 pm
My favourite is one where an elite guard (Doctor that kills the would-be-killer, powerful role) guarded the same guy 2 nights in a row... and the scum attacked that guy 2 nights in a row.Let's go mining for dynamite.
Post by: ToonyMan on August 10, 2009, 02:55:27 pm
My favourite is one where an elite guard (Doctor that kills the would-be-killer, powerful role) guarded the same guy 2 nights in a row... and the scum attacked that guy 2 nights in a row.Let's go mining for dynamite.
Exactly.
Post by: Leafsnail on August 10, 2009, 03:34:35 pm
Post by: webadict on August 10, 2009, 05:58:01 pm
It was probably WIFOM, but I guess that the doctor probably really wanted to keep that person alive, and the mafia lost the game of bluff.Well, if it was someone random, they thought the person wouldn't be protected again...