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Finally... => General Discussion => Topic started by: umiman on August 11, 2009, 07:26:52 pm
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It's true. I don't. In fact, I don't understand why people always say that whenever someone links to TVtropes (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LockAndLoadMontage), they end up wasting hours just browsing that site. Why is that? Curiousity? Lack of self control?
Are there any others who share the same affliction of not being able to be arsed enough to be addicted to popular trivia sites?
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A lot of curiousity. Cause each given article links to others..and those link to others..and many are particularly interesting, so it leads on and on and on.
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I blame not knowing anything about anime or pop culture. One thing cascades into another very quickly.
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A lot of curiousity. Cause each given article links to others..and those link to others..and many are particularly interesting, so it leads on and on and on.
It's the joy of sudden, easy, rapid flow of knowledge that you *know* you could find a use for, even if that use is telling other people.
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Simple will power to just never click a hyper link when you see one does it for me :D
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Simple will power to just never click a hyper link when you see one does it for me :D
Yeah, but that implies that you don't actually want to do a quick round of some random tvtropes articles. And sometimes I feel like doing it.
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Wikipedia is a "Trivia site"? News to me.
Hell, I wouldn't even consider tvtropes to be one, although it has more than its fair share.
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Heh, I like TVTropes. It's sort of like how the academic world functions, but for pop culture. In the academic world, you have all these theories, which may not be true, but end up being pretty damn accurate to what they represent. Tropes are sort of like theories, laughably accurate.
Though some of them suck. And I'm sure there's a trope for "you spend too much time on the site".
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Is there one for moaning about any link to tvtropes?
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Not specifically. Yet. There is the "TVTropes Will Ruin Your Life" article, but while it does reference the time-sink factor, it's actually about the equally real and insidious problem that TVTropes will destroy your ability to ever watch TV or a movie or read a book or play a videogame again without constantly deconstructing everything now that you know all the easy tricks of the trade.
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I find that wikipedia is less of a time-sink but at the same time, it is hundreds of times more extensive, so although you will eventually reach the point where you can view any TVtropes page, and NOT get caught up in others just because you already read them, but with wikipedia the pages are usually shorter, often less entertaining, and mostly have fewer links, making it more of a massive gravity well than a true black hole.
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I see what you mean. Tvtropes is crosslinked in an extremely intriguing way, so while you never jump too far you can get absolutely miles from your original location (I got from "Dwarf fortress" to "Stripperiffic", somehow. I seem to remember it only taking 2 links).
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I don't suffer from any sort of Wikipedia or TvTropes thing either, Whenever I go on either I look at what I came to look at then close the tab, no worries or problems.
I find it really annoying when someone does that whole "YOU LINKED TVTROPES, HOW COULD YOU!??!?!" crap.
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Am I the only one that finds it REALLY FRICKIN' ANNOYING when a page links back on itself? Like, hey, here's a link, THAT LEADS TO THE EXACT SAME PAGE! What were they thinking?! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatWereYouThinking)
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Am I the only one that finds it REALLY FRICKIN' ANNOYING when a page links back on itself? Like, hey, here's a link, THAT LEADS TO THE EXACT SAME PAGE! What were they thinking?! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatWereYouThinking)
In before the usual "YOU LINKED TO TV TROPES YOU BASTARD" post.
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Okay, here is what you need to do:
Open a particularily long and interesting article.
LET YOURSELF OPEN ONE TAB OR WINDOW FROM ONE OF THE LINKS ON THE PAGE. Pick an interesting one.
If it works, you will find at least one interesting link on that page. Keep going until you cannot find an interesting link. If you cannot, pick a longer or more interesting page.
If it doesn't, you either know too much, and we must kill you(With magma!), or you are too dull to live.
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Having something better to do instead helps.
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Am I the only one that finds it REALLY FRICKIN' ANNOYING when a page links back on itself? Like, hey, here's a link, THAT LEADS TO THE EXACT SAME PAGE! What were they thinking?! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatWereYouThinking)
I did what I had to do (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IDidWhatIHadToDo) for science! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ForScience)
Ye gods, what have I done, (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyGodWhatHaveIDone) it seemed like such a good idea at the time. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ItSeemedLikeAGoodIdeaAtTheTime)
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I'm just surprised about where you actually linked. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=40247.msg702519#msg702519)
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TVtropes I can handle. It's Lets Plays that get me every time.
Goddam you Something Awful Archives, Freelance Astroanuts, Chip Cheezum, Deceased Crab and all the other Lets Players I have yet to be sucked into!
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TVtropes I can handle. It's Lets Plays that get me every time.
Goddam you Something Awful Archives, Freelance Astroanuts, Chip Cheezum, Deceased Crab and all the other Lets Players I have yet to be sucked into!
Look upon the HCBailly and DESPAIR MORTAL! DESPAIR! (http://www.youtube.com/user/HCBailly)
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I too am immune to the TvTropes thing, and it annoys me when people are all "oh noes u linked to tvtropes ill never get to sleep tonite ololol"
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I don't have this problem either. I do open a few more pages if I click on a tvtropes link, but I can stop if I want to.
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I don't get how you can not have that problem, if I go on I'll see an interesting link so I open it in a new tab and then keep reading the current article, repeating for any other interesting ones, then you close the first tab and repeat for the next open tab. Doesn't take long for me to have several dozen open tabs.
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TVtropes I can handle. It's Lets Plays that get me every time.
Goddam you Something Awful Archives, Freelance Astroanuts, Chip Cheezum, Deceased Crab and all the other Lets Players I have yet to be sucked into!
Look upon the HCBailly and DESPAIR MORTAL! DESPAIR! (http://www.youtube.com/user/HCBailly)
Eh, it's just a bunch of Final Fantasy games I've already pla-
SOUL BLAZER?
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Damn you. I already played that game a million times! Why the hell am I watching a Lets Play about it? Why?!
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I don't watch TV ever. EVER.
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I do have a tendency to go on long TVTropes or Wikipedia knowledge binges but only because I was bored to start, I'd never stop working for it. Except in one subject at school, ICT. In that subject about 10 classmates and I would "wiki-race". We would start on one article on wikipedia and see who could reach the destination article first, just by using hyperlinks and none of the disambiguations or index lists. Don't judge, we're not all losers, it was both a really boring class (due to pointless tedium) and a surprisingly fun game.
A good variant of this is having Wikipedia find you a random article and then trying to get to Adolf Hitler's page in as little clicks as possible.
I suppose it can be easy at times considering WWII was a major event.
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I don't have an addiction!
I can quit anytime I want!
I just don't want to...
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Damn you. I already played that game a million times! Why the hell am I watching a Lets Play about it? Why?!
Boatmurdered was a let's play, wasn't it? And that's very fun to read even if you play DF a lot.
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Damn you. I already played that game a million times! Why the hell am I watching a Lets Play about it? Why?!
Boatmurdered was a let's play, wasn't it? And that's very fun to read even if you play DF a lot.
Sandboxes you can see another person play completely differently. Action games with levels and very few secrets can only really be played two ways: Well or horribly.
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Damn you. I already played that game a million times! Why the hell am I watching a Lets Play about it? Why?!
Boatmurdered was a let's play, wasn't it? And that's very fun to read even if you play DF a lot.
Sandboxes you can see another person play completely differently. Action games with levels and very few secrets can only really be played two ways: Well or horribly.
Unless said action game is, itself, horrible. Then it can only be played one way - hilariously badly.
The Man, the Myth, the Legend - Psychadelic Eyeball vs Mario World Kaizo (http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Kaizo/)
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I was referencing Soul Blazer, but I see your point.
But yes, after several hours of reading every relevant TVtropes article, they start to loop back on eachother. You stumble upon boring ones, or ones one has read again. Happened to me, and now it's powers have been broken.
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But yes, after several hours of reading every relevant TVtropes article, they start to loop back on eachother. You stumble upon boring ones, or ones one has read again. Happened to me, and now it's powers have been broken.
That's exactly what happened to me, I can't stand that place anymore...
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Not specifically. Yet. There is the "TVTropes Will Ruin Your Life" article, but while it does reference the time-sink factor, it's actually about the equally real and insidious problem that TVTropes will destroy your ability to ever watch TV or a movie or read a book or play a videogame again without constantly deconstructing everything now that you know all the easy tricks of the trade.
I did this entirely without TVTropes.
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Whenever somebody links to it, I go through and read all of it, and when I notice and interesting link I just open a new tab. After 2 or 3 pages, I have opened about 20 tabs and feel compelled to read them all.
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At the Tvtropes will ruin your life page, this image can be found at the very bottom, which is supposed to be the average TvTropes session:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/soomanypagesssss2.jpg
EDIT: I guess...
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However! They don't allow hotlinking, so your image isn't showing up.
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Simpler is better.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BigNo)
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When I first found Tvtropes, I spent 8 hours straight reading it.
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But yes, after several hours of reading every relevant TVtropes article, they start to loop back on eachother. You stumble upon boring ones, or ones one has read again. Happened to me, and now it's powers have been broken.
I was positive of the same thing, and then that Big No link brought my attention several tropes I've never read before.
I now have 8 tabs on my browser window.
...Help me...
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I'm more of binge troper. I don't pour myself a drink but when someone offers to pour me one, I can't say no. That is just an analogy. Accepting drinks from strangers is like playing, Who has the iocane with Cary Elwes? he's always wins.