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Title: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sappho on August 15, 2009, 09:12:43 am
So I found this movie called Edgar Allen Poe's House of Usher.  I had never heard of it, but then I've been very out of the loop for a long while.  I love Poe and it sounded interesting so I grabbed it.  It was labeled a "thriller/horror" movie.

I started watching it and immediately realized it was very much a B movie.  Terrible acting, awful sound quality.  They took the story "Fall of the House of Usher" and modernized it, but didn't modernize the language - that's always a good idea.  I settled in and prepared for an hour and twenty minutes of laughing at a terrible movie.

About fifteen minutes in, Usher and Victor (the unnamed narrator in the story) are having a conversation, and Victor says he'd better get to bed.  Suddenly there is a long, awkward silence as they stare at each other, and then...  they begin kissing.

What followed was a ten-minute long softcore gay porn scene - basically just the two of them making out and stripping down to their underwear (which is never so much as touched other than to expose part of the butt).

I was still trying to get my head around the idea that someone would read "The Fall of the House of Usher" and think, "you know what this needs?  SOFTCORE GAY PORN!" when the scene suddenly ended with Victor saying things were moving too fast and heading to his room.

Then...  The storyline picks right back up!

There are four or five such ten-minute so-softcore-they-actually-get-really-boring porn-type scenes in the movie, which is otherwise just a really terrible adaptation of Poe's short story (they change pretty much everything).  I couldn't stop myself from watching it, beginning to end, and laughing my ass off.

The best part, however, is the ending.  I'll hide it, just in case any of you want to watch the movie!
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I can't get over how hilarious this entire experience was.  Has anyone else heard of or seen this movie?  Any other surprise porno stories?
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Zironic on August 15, 2009, 06:13:32 pm
Note to Doctors: Reading books to patients by Poe is wrong, especially when they decide to write a movie version and you get it made into film.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Muz on August 15, 2009, 07:36:01 pm
Any movie that has a 15+ rating on it, because you don't expect 15+ kids to watch anything with porn in it, and the rating is low enough that "mild nudity" can appear and suddenly disappear for no reason.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sensei on August 15, 2009, 11:36:46 pm
Heh, that sounds kinda like the Baz Luhrmann edition of Romeo and Juliet, except the latter didn't fail. Actually, it was pretty funny (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baz+luhrmann+romeo+and+juliet&search_type=&aq=2&oq=baz+l), but the good parts don't seem to be on Youtube.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 15, 2009, 11:45:35 pm
Sudden out of place Soft-core porn is a staple of cult movies!

I watched Wish Masters 5 or something (I don't think that is the name or the correct number... STUPID movie) but they kept their out of place Soft-core porn scene near the end. Though in their defense they did hint on it and the TWO most seen places in the movie is the main character's house and a strip bar.

Though unexpected Soft-core Gay porn? Hmmm never seen that in any of the cult movies I watched... unless you count the scene where a woman finds herself being sexually assaulted by everyone around her.

Note: Incase anyone is interested, the Space Channel where I live shows cult classics late at night. Most of them are horrible and some of them somehow are porn (I don't watch those however... Especially after being scarred for life from one of them)
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: ein on August 15, 2009, 11:47:48 pm
Heh, that sounds kinda like the Baz Luhrmann edition of Romeo and Juliet, except the latter didn't fail. Actually, it was pretty funny (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baz+luhrmann+romeo+and+juliet&search_type=&aq=2&oq=baz+l), but the good parts don't seem to be on Youtube.

That's because youtube blocks nudity. Unless it's 2d or snuck into something in a not very noticeable way.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sensei on August 16, 2009, 12:36:15 am
The movie in question is PG-13, and the 'good parts' in question aren't the horny ones. ;)

Granted, I can imagine you assuming that what with the topic and all. And of course, the 'surprise porn' isn't a surprise at all because it's romeo and friggin' juliet. Anyway, I was trying to find Act 1, scene 1, where romeo's servants fight. That was pretty friggin' awesome.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 12:39:14 am
While I know they leave a part open in Romeo and Juliet for a sex scene (but I cannot remember if it actually happened or if it is common for people to put it in there), for it to go from sex scene to SEX SCENE!!! is something entirely different all together.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sensei on August 16, 2009, 12:47:43 am
It's just a 'sex scene'. Actually, there are some of what I am prone to calling stripper skillz in the ways they manage to NOT show anything to the camera.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 12:50:06 am
It's just a 'sex scene'. Actually, there are some of what I am prone to calling stripper skillz in the ways they manage to NOT show anything to the camera.

So the surprise is basically just that it is a gay sex scene? Given Brokeback mountain this topic disapoints me.

Though I am getting somewhat tired of seeing people add homosexual overtones (and by Overtones I mean "Overt-tones") in Shakespear. You would think everyone in the theature was gay or something (Hmmm)
-Uhhh I am not changing this... but I feel that I left this open WAY too much to misinterpretation. What I was meaning is that people look way too far into some things.

Does anyone feel that this topic may be going too close to Moderation? Anyone want to just abandon this discussion?
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: chaoticag on August 16, 2009, 12:50:51 am
While I know they leave a part open in Romeo and Juliet for a sex scene (but I cannot remember if it actually happened or if it is common for people to put it in there), for it to go from sex scene to SEX SCENE!!! is something entirely different all together.
You mean the scene where Romeo more or less stares out the window, mooning the camera for a good five minutes and Juliet suddenly realises that her family was about to barge in (or something) and gets out of bed exposing her breasts for a quarter of a second?

It took our drama teacher a while to realise he ought to be forwarding that part, while the rest of the class was laughing their asses off.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 01:00:36 am
I've seen that scene end with a sex scene once. (He does a lot of his speach after the sex, she says her father is comming, then transition)

All seen in Highschool oddly enough and maybe as early as elementary as part of the class.

Goodness I don't want people to get the wrong idea...
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Vester on August 16, 2009, 01:12:13 am
Wait, I read The Fall of the House of Usher, there wasn't any sex (gay or otherwise) in it! RAEG.

...

Did it say who made the movie?
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 01:18:46 am
Actually having read the topic creator's original post more in depth I have to say that the ending made PERFECT sense

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sensei on August 16, 2009, 01:28:27 am
It's just a 'sex scene'. Actually, there are some of what I am prone to calling stripper skillz in the ways they manage to NOT show anything to the camera.

So the surprise is basically just that it is a gay sex scene? Given Brokeback mountain this topic disapoints me.

Though I am getting somewhat tired of seeing people add homosexual overtones (and by Overtones I mean "Overt-tones") in Shakespear. You would think everyone in the theature was gay or something (Hmmm)
-Uhhh I am not changing this... but I feel that I left this open WAY too much to misinterpretation. What I was meaning is that people look way too far into some things.

Does anyone feel that this topic may be going too close to Moderation? Anyone want to just abandon this discussion?

Oh come on, I'm talking about Romeo and Juliet having sex! Crikey!

The whole point of the movie was to adhere STRICTLY to the script, in a contemporary setting, and therefore it is funny (they did a good job too). I will restate that there is no gay sex in the movie I am discussing, which is not OP's movie. Mkay?
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 01:31:28 am
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The whole point of the movie was to adhere STRICTLY to the script


Ohh goodness... Just be glad it wasn't Hamlet.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Vester on August 16, 2009, 01:37:05 am
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The whole point of the movie was to adhere STRICTLY to the script


Ohh goodness... Just be glad it wasn't Hamlet.

Depends on who plays Hamlet, honestly. ;)
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Neonivek on August 16, 2009, 01:43:30 am
Your forgetting Horatio
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: umiman on August 16, 2009, 04:00:00 am
Not really surprising on the pornography part, but in Matrix somethingorrather, when Keanu Reeve's ass starts bouncing on the screen.... ergh..... .... ... blehh...
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sappho on August 16, 2009, 04:10:10 am
Wait, wait, let me clarify here.  It's not that there was a sex scene, or even that it was a gay sex scene - I wouldn't have so much as blinked at that, it's normal.  The thing that caught me off guard was that it was a typical softcore PORN scene - complete with porno music!  We're not talking "sex scene" here, we're talking they injected what is typically thought of as "pornography" at random places in the movie.

This also wouldn't have surprised me if it were a sci-fi movie about aliens or something, where this type of thing seems fairly common.  It's the fact that it was Edgar Allen Poe!  Why would anyone ever think to tie Poe with gay porn?  Or straight porn for that matter?

There is actually an entry for the movie at IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1017442/).  You can get all the info there.  If you read the synopsis, you'd never guess what the movie is really like.  On the other hand, if you look a little further down the page you might chance upon keywords like "gay softcore" which are a bit more of a giveaway.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Vester on August 16, 2009, 05:49:36 am
Ahhh.... You mean with the bow-chicka-wow-wow music?

(I stand by what I said about Hamlet, however.)

I wouldn't associate Poe with anything sexual. He never had kids and had a bad track record when it came to marriage (and the guy ended up marrying his 13 year old cousin, or something). Also his poetry and stories are mostly about the dankness in the brain, that musty smell it gets when it hasn't been aired out for a while.

I am curious, now, as to exactly how badly they defiled "The Fall of the House of Usher". ;D
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Enzo on August 16, 2009, 11:31:40 am
Is this just a movie poster, or does the DVD cover look like this too? (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3629290496/tt1017442) Because it seems like manflesh was their main selling point, really.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sappho on August 16, 2009, 11:37:15 am
I didn't actually have a case for the movie, so I didn't see that image until after I had seen the movie and was trying to figure out what had happened.  You have to admit, "Edgar Allen Poe's House of Usher" doesn't quite sound like a porno flick!
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Cthulhu on August 16, 2009, 11:43:40 am
I don't like the sound of this movie.

Speaking of failure to modernize the dialogue, though, has anyone seen the Leonardo DiCaprio version of Romeo and Juliet?  Where they shoved the almost completely unaltered plot into modern day Florida?  Romeo is arrested for killing Tybalt and banished from the city without due process, under penalty of death, in modern America.  Juliet is interred without being embalmed.  There was other stuff too.

I vaguely remember my mom mentioning this version of the Fall of the House of Usher though.  She said it was a really bad adaptation.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Luckk on August 16, 2009, 11:48:43 am
I might have.  The movie I saw pretty much from what I am guessing had them talking like how Romeo and Juliet was written (which didn't even sound right in that setting) and ended with them both still dieing (it might have been different, I'm not sure) while in a confrontation with the police.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: DJ on August 16, 2009, 11:50:35 am
You have to admit, "Edgar Allen Poe's House of Usher" doesn't quite sound like a porno flick!
I agree, "The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym" would've been a much more logical choice.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Sensei on August 16, 2009, 04:47:58 pm
I don't like the sound of this movie.

Speaking of failure to modernize the dialogue, though, has anyone seen the Leonardo DiCaprio version of Romeo and Juliet?  Where they shoved the almost completely unaltered plot into modern day Florida?  Romeo is arrested for killing Tybalt and banished from the city without due process, under penalty of death, in modern America.  Juliet is interred without being embalmed.  There was other stuff too.

I vaguely remember my mom mentioning this version of the Fall of the House of Usher though.  She said it was a really bad adaptation.

Yeah, I referred to it as the Baz Lurhmann (director) version.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: IndonesiaWarMinister on August 18, 2009, 08:16:32 am
Heh, that sounds kinda like the Baz Luhrmann edition of Romeo and Juliet, except the latter didn't fail. Actually, it was pretty funny (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=baz+luhrmann+romeo+and+juliet&search_type=&aq=2&oq=baz+l), but the good parts don't seem to be on Youtube.

That's because youtube blocks nudity. Unless it's 2d or snuck into something in a not very noticeable way.

DON'T BADMOUTH 2D!
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Jackrabbit on August 18, 2009, 11:49:54 pm
Sounds like the best Big Lipped Alligator Moment ever.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Mephisto on August 19, 2009, 06:46:53 pm
The only surprise "porn" scene I can remember was in Evil Dead, of all places. I believe that's the correct movie.

Let's just say that the vines had some fun with one of the helpless females.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: chaoticag on August 21, 2009, 04:16:39 pm
No, wait, I just remembered.

When I was younger (4, 5 years ago?) my parents took us on vacation to Germany, where some friends of the family lent us their cabin, because they weren't using it or something in that vein. These details aren't important.

I was watching a cartoon show, that was in German, not understanding a word they were saying and watching because there was nothing else to do. This was about the time of the heatstroke that killed a few elderly people, so the weather was hot and there was no air conditioning: going outside was out of the question. The cartoon fades to comercials, which was perfectly normal, except that the comercial was for a strip club and featured not only scantly clad females, but nubile ones as well.

Thank God my parents weren't in the living room...
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: umiman on August 21, 2009, 05:07:43 pm
Seeing a "nubile" woman is hardly any cause for concern. You see them every day.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Vester on August 21, 2009, 05:20:17 pm
Nubile doesn't mean "naked", it means "sexually attractive" when said of a young lady.

So umiman's right.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Chutney on August 21, 2009, 05:48:49 pm
Nubile generally refers to a young woman. Like under 16. In which case it IS worrying that they were in an ad for a strip club.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: zchris13 on August 21, 2009, 05:50:34 pm
Pretty sure that at that age, it's still girl.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: CJ1145 on August 21, 2009, 10:05:31 pm
Sounds like the best Big Lipped Alligator Moment ever.

Hooray! I feel less lonely now that I get that reference!
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: Duke 2.0 on August 21, 2009, 11:05:12 pm
Pretty sure that at that age, it's still girl.
At that age, it is generally illegal. Not that they can't just get young-looking eighteen-year-olds.

 Still, this is Germany we are talking about. And it doesn't matter the age, generally strip clubs are not things most parents want their kids to experience. Not even ads for one, depending on how tastefully the ad is.
 Again, this is Germany we are talking about.
Title: Re: Surprise Pornography!
Post by: chaoticag on August 22, 2009, 12:31:25 am
Seeing a "nubile" woman is hardly any cause for concern. You see them every day.
Ah, sorry. They were naked.
I'm not sure why I was afraid to type that at 1am.