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TOON MAFIA IV
JOIN NOW!
Let me list the rules:
1. There will never be townie roles ever.
2. None of you will get the same roles?
3. There will always be double lynching (if it's 60% of the group or more) even in lylo.
4. Include me in all PMs.
5. Vote in red.
6. YELL AT MR.PERSON FOR BEING OLD.
7. If everybody dies, the game ends in a draw.
8. THERE IS NO EDITING.
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Players:
Pandarsenic - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - T
Mr.Person - CONVERTED - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 2 - T
Leafsnail - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - T
RedWarrior0 - Tom Cruise - M
Diakron - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - T
Rysith - (Fake) Tom Cruise - sk
Archangel - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - T
ExKirby - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 2 - T
Cheeetar - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - T
Vector - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - T
Twiggie - CONVERTED - Fake Tom Cruise Fan 1 - sk
eduren - George Lopaz - T
TOWN WON
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In.
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I don't get why FoS's should be in blue, it's not like they would be any less effective if they're red or green. Honestly, I can't read that dark blue on the black background, it's like reading yellow on white. It's not like you need to keep track of them or anything. Also, the kids these days, they don't know...
Eh, fuck it, I don't really care. I'm in.
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I think on some MS games a certain number of FoS's get someone lynched. And there was a PR in one game that switched FoS's and votes around without telling anyone. Looked kinda "fun".
In, I think, in spite of the fact this looks insane, since I've been NK'd in Religion and Wizard Duals (wow, that was quick).
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In, and hopefully I'm not serial killer this time.
Rule 2 was not in effect last game.
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i'm in
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I'll be in again. What's the worst that could happen?
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Definitely in.
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/xjoin mafia
I did get that right, right?
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I am in.
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/xjoin mafia
I did get that right, right?
It's !in.
Also, I'm not in. I like watching.
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Hey, I might as well head on in, then.
Hope to play with you again someday, Webadict, when my nerves are stronger >_>
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Hey, I might as well head on in, then.
Hope to play with you again someday, Webadict, when my nerves are stronger >_>
Haha. It's fine. I'm sure I'm a big pressure on everyone.
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I'll end up dead by day 3 and end up watching, which is why I'm in anyway...
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I've been wondering about this new Mafia rules thing.
I guess after this round I'll be put in rotation.
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im in
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I've been wondering about this new Mafia rules thing.
I guess after this round I'll be put in rotation.
Hey, you should discuss it in the thread. We're still bickering about everything, and you've definitely got a say in what happens. At the moment, I think we're even leaning away from the rotation idea and thinking more about player limitations and more careful timing on the part of mods.
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Inn
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F is for Fire that burns down the hole town,
U is for Uranium-Bombs!
N is for no survivors, down here in the deep blue sea!
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Sign ups end Thursday sometime.
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You seem to have misplaced my name in the first post.
Inn
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You're so IMPRACTICAL.
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Lol?
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Will be sending out roles today.
LOCKING it so PEOPLE don't post WHILE I WORK.
>:[
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~DAY 1 START~
You don't know how many Mafia there is.
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HELLO, MR.PERSON. HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
Sorry, I promise I'll stop once we leave RVS.
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ExKirby, why haven't you posted yet?
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Twiggie what is the square root of -1?
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Twiggie what is the square root of -1?
Head explodes.
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The square root of -1 is i.
Twiggie, what is i squared?
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i^2 is -1. and yes, i did know that.
archangel, are you mafia?
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The square root of -1 is i.
Twiggie, what is i squared?
Woops, I forgot that Twiggie already had a vote... unvote and, Leafsnail, how much OMGUS would I OMGUS if I could OMGUS OMGUS?
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RATHER A LOT, MR.PERSON. I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE TO TALK IN ALL CAPS WHEN ADDRESSING YOU, BUT IT IS IN THE RULES, AFTER ALL.
Unvote. Eduren, what kind of Toon are you?
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Pandarsenic, tell me a joke.
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Unvote. Eduren, what kind of Toon are you?
Wouldn't you like to know. :P
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Redwarrior0, can you describe an efficient algorithm to determine if a graph is bipartite? How might that be applicable in a game of Mafia?
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Diakron, what is your favorite color OF SCUM!?
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red, the color of the blood they shed
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Redwarrior0, can you describe an efficient algorithm to determine if a graph is bipartite? How might that be applicable in a game of Mafia?
No, I can't describe this. I didn't even know what a bipartite graph was until I googled it, and I still don't quite get what it means.
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Redwarrior0, can you describe an efficient algorithm to determine if a graph is bipartite? How might that be applicable in a game of Mafia?
No, I can't describe this. I didn't even know what a bipartite graph was until I googled it, and I still don't quite get what it means.
So, I can't get an algorithm, but I'm guessing you'd be throwing an AI at Mafia games, looking at voting patterns, and building some sort of criteria with which to define the existence of an edge (probably through running genetic pruning on already-played games). Then you look at the two parts. The one that is suspiciously small is your scum.
The only problem with this is that scum might start artificially adding edges between each other until you ended up with some sort of complete graph, which is effectively useless.
Cheeetar, what do you think about the suspiciously large volume of mathematics that is flowing around at the moment? Further, what is an application of the Stokes-Navier equations to Mafia?
... Sorry, had to get that one in :D
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archangel, are you mafia?
Of course not!
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Cheeetar, what do you think about the suspiciously large volume of mathematics that is flowing around at the moment? Further, what is an application of the Stokes-Navier equations to Mafia?
A distraction, so as to get people (such as Leafsnail!) talking.
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No, I can't describe this. I didn't even know what a bipartite graph was until I googled it, and I still don't quite get what it means.
Unvote.
Silly people who don't know about graph theory. I suppose I shouldn't hold lack of graph theory knowledge against people. Points to Vector for actually answering, though. Vector, wouldn't mechanism design theory be a better avenue than Stokes-Navier, since we are not a fluid?
And Cheeetar, why are you dropping a #2 vote this early? Hoping to push through a lurker lynch?
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Actually, Rysith, it's because everyone has already posted.
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Unvote.
Good afternoon, everyone. We're now in the game with the random roles and the strange win conditions. With that in mind, Exkirby, could you be one of the evil conservatives we're huntin'? And why haven't ya posted yet?
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IMA FIRIN' MA POSTZOR!
I dunno who to random vote, so I'll just do my fun song.
F is for Fire...
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Come on Exkirby, you must think something about what's transpired so far. So, Cheeetar, how come you were wrong about everyone having posted?
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unvote, vote exkirby for not random voting!
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No, I can't describe this. I didn't even know what a bipartite graph was until I googled it, and I still don't quite get what it means.
Unvote.
Silly people who don't know about graph theory. I suppose I shouldn't hold lack of graph theory knowledge against people. Points to Vector for actually answering, though. Vector, wouldn't mechanism design theory be a better avenue than Stokes-Navier, since we are not a fluid?
And Cheeetar, why are you dropping a #2 vote this early? Hoping to push through a lurker lynch?
Unvote and vote Rysith for jumping on the little things, scum!
(Look at me, I'm ToonyMan! Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!)
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VOTE COUNT:
ExKirby - RedWarrior0, Leafsnail, Twiggie [3]
Twiggie - Diakron [1]
Leafsnail - Cheeetar [1]
Pandarsenic - Eduren [1]
Vector - Rysith [1]
Diakron - Pandarsenic [1]
Cheeetar - Vector [1]
Rysith - Mr.Person [1]
Not Voting - Archangel, ExKirby [2]
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Where's my joke Pandarsenic?
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unvote
Mr. Person, if you where a sane cop and got a scum on a rolecheck how would you go about proving it?
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unvote
Mr. Person, if you where a sane cop and got a scum on a rolecheck how would you go about proving it?
I'd claim it the following day and push for that person's lynch. Specifically, I'd try and do this before lylo, if possible.
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Unvote.
Vote Eduren.
if you had to decide right here and now who was to be lynched who would you lynch?
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I'd say Pandarsenic, he still hasn't told me a joke.
Pandarsenic, tell me a joke.
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I don't recall hearing any sort of call for a joke, but I just signed on now, so... yeah.
What's brown and rhymes with "Snoop"?
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Unvote.
Rysith this is your second vote ...
Do you always vote someone strictly on their RVS votes with no other evidence?
@ panda: poop?
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Unvote
But next time I expect to laugh.
Twiggie, care to explain why you placed a third vote on ExKirby?
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Unvote.
Rysith this is your second vote ...
Do you always vote someone strictly on their RVS votes with no other evidence?
@ panda: poop?
No.
Dr. Dre.
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unvote, vote exkirby for not random voting!
that.
and yes, i did realise that archangel, who i was voting before, hadnt posted, once toony posted the count. and no, im not going to change it back because they're both legitimate targets for that reason, in my eyes.
if you care to explain why im wrong, please feel free.
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Unvote.
Rysith this is your second vote ...
Do you always vote someone strictly on their RVS votes with no other evidence?
unvote
Nope. I vote for people I'm asking serious questions of. It gives them a bit more urgency, rather than them being able to ignore them. Diakron, you're on your fourth vote. Care to explain why you're hopping so much, and pressing so little?
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Bah. Busy, but I'll answer your question, since it's math-related:
1. I didn't even know that branch of game theory existed, you jerk! Now I have to go study it, on top of all my coursework.
2. Fluid dynamics seems appropriate in this case because it's heavily related to random particle motion. I could also see approximating voting/aggression patterns as the interactions of whorls within a fluid, particularly if one were looking at them as flows down a narrowing stream over time (as players were knocked off).
... That may just be because I'm crazy, though.
Unvote. Diakron, buddy, pal, scumboy. Don't you know that red's a bad color to love?
If you were part of a group of Masons, who would you most want to be with?
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Bah. Busy, but I'll answer your question, since it's math-related:
1. I didn't even know that branch of game theory existed, you jerk! Now I have to go study it, on top of all my coursework.
2. Fluid dynamics seems appropriate in this case because it's heavily related to random particle motion. I could also see approximating voting/aggression patterns as the interactions of whorls within a fluid, particularly if one were looking at them as flows down a narrowing stream over time (as players were knocked off).
... That may just be because I'm crazy, though.
Unvote. Diakron, buddy, pal, scumboy. Don't you know that red's a bad color to love?
If you were part of a group of Masons, who would you most want to be with?
Subtle bandwagon on Diakron? Maybe, it depends on what Diakron has to say. Pressure is pressure, at least for now.
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Come on Exkirby, you must think something about what's transpired so far. So, Cheeetar, how come you were wrong about everyone having posted?
Because I did a Ctrl+F to find Exkirby's name. I found it, and assumed that he had posted.
Unvote
Vote Archangel. Why is your name in red. Is it because you are CONSERVATIVE?
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Unvote
Archangel, talk to us a little more.
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unvote, vote exkirby for not random voting!
that.
and yes, i did realise that archangel, who i was voting before, hadnt posted, once toony posted the count. and no, im not going to change it back because they're both legitimate targets for that reason, in my eyes.
if you care to explain why im wrong, please feel free.
I have posted, but not voted.
Come on Exkirby, you must think something about what's transpired so far. So, Cheeetar, how come you were wrong about everyone having posted?
Because I did a Ctrl+F to find Exkirby's name. I found it, and assumed that he had posted.
Unvote
Vote Archangel. Why is your name in red. Is it because you are CONSERVATIVE?
Unvote
Archangel, talk to us a little more.
OK. I've got a role I really like!
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OK. I've got a role I really like!
Oooh, tell us.
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OK. I've got a role I really like!
Oooh, tell us.
Unvote and vote Eduren for role fishing. Why would you care so much unless you were scum?
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Just curious is all.
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But Mr.Person, wouldn't you agree that Archangel's act of mentioning liking his role was more or less an invitation for questions about it?
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Just curious is all.
Are you a cat, eduren? Are you aware that cat starts with c, as well as conservative?
Unvote.
Vote Eduren.
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Just curious is all.
Are you a cat, eduren? Are you aware that cat starts with c, as well as conservative?
Unvote.
Vote Eduren.
as does cheeetar.
unvote, vote cheeetar
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Unvote.
Hey, Archangel, what is that role you really like? Perhaps its the MODERATE SERIAL KILLAH!??!
On a serious note, I wouldn't say that Eduren was Rolefishing. If Archangel has a town PR, he's already brought the NK upon himself.
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Oh my god, I only just realized the thread title is "Conservative Camp" and not "Concentration Camp". Oh well, not that big of a difference, really ;)
Unvote.
Hey, Archangel, what is that role you really like? Perhaps its the MODERATE SERIAL KILLAH!??!
On a serious note, I wouldn't say that Eduren was Rolefishing. If Archangel has a town PR, he's already brought the NK upon himself.
So you're trying to say that asking for a person's role is not rolefishing? That's nonsense.
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Seeing as you want a random vote from me...
Twiggie! I reckon he jumped the gun on me-I want to think all my votes through before making them, and not end up on the rear end of the stick like in Wizard Duels.
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Seeing as you want a random vote from me...
Twiggie! I reckon he jumped the gun on me-I want to think all my votes through before making them, and not end up on the rear end of the stick like in Wizard Duels.
if everyone did that then the game wouldnt start.
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Oh, and by the way:
Diakron, I meant a group of 4 Masons. Yes, that's a large number. I still want to know.
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Whoops, forgot to red.
Twiggie
Now, that's better.
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Well, Mr.Person, the main reason is that Archangel was inviting questions about his role. If he's a town PR, he may have already doomed himself. Simply asking a question about a role that has already been hinted as good is not necessarily rolefishing.
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I want to think all my votes through before making them
Trying to avoid suspicion, eh scum?
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blah blah blah...
Unvote. Diakron, buddy, pal, scumboy. Don't you know that red's a bad color to love?
If you were part of a group of Masons, who would you most want to be with?
if i was scum i'd want to be with Vector Eduren and leafsnail.
Vector: You have a reputation for being very aggressive and could bash a town until he caves.
Eduren: He always locks on small tells and makes them look way bigger then they are, perfect to work with vector and get townies to turn on each other.
Leafsnail: calm collected and well-reasoned, also has a good knowledge of other peoples tells.
Twiggie why did you vote Cheeetar?
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Just curious is all.
Are you a cat, eduren? Are you aware that cat starts with c, as well as conservative?
Unvote.
Vote Eduren.
as does cheeetar.
unvote, vote cheeetar
right there.
also, you might try answering the question that was asked you.
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But Mr.Person, wouldn't you agree that Archangel's act of mentioning liking his role was more or less an invitation for questions about it?
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i did answer it lol read my post twiggie those or the people i'd choose and why i'd choose them
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But Mr.Person, wouldn't you agree that Archangel's act of mentioning liking his role was more or less an invitation for questions about it?
Archangel mentioned his role but not what it does. If he wanted to tell you all about his role, he would of done so. Since he didn't he obviously doesn't want everybody to know his role, thus asking him is rolefishing.
In fact, Archangel shouldn't of mentioned his role at all, it's quite odd he did. It's not scummy per say, but it's still stupid.
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*Shrugs*
Unvote. I can understand that reasoning. Twiggie, why would you vote Cheeetar for voting Eduren? Something you aren't telling us?
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VOTE COUNT:
ExKirby - RedWarrior0 [1]
Diakron - Rysith, Vector [2]
Archangel - Eduren, Leafsnail [2]
Eduren - Mr.Person, Cheeetar [2]
Cheeetar - Twiggie [1]
Twiggie - ExKirby, Diakron, Pandarsenic [3]
Not Voting - Archangel [1]
~Voting Ends Thursday PMish~
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I ADMIT IT! its because im so stupid that i voted to try and get cheeetar killed, because im scum, even though nobody else was voting for him!
but seriously, can you guys not take a joke ironic pointing-outal?
anyways, unvote, vote archangel. who would you vote right now? you should probably vote them.
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It feels like Twiggie is trying to screen himself with a joke.
Twiggie, who would you want on your ideal scum team?
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I'd want somebody more experienced, like you or Mr Person, and redwarrior0, because i have no idea who he is, so he's a complete mystery.
apart from that, id want the most inexperienced people, because its (relatively, when compared to a moderate-experience person) easy to hide a scum behind a veil of noobiness and pretending you dont know whats going on. i think redwarriors one of these people, but im not too sure.
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i did answer it lol read my post twiggie those or the people i'd choose and why i'd choose them
Diakron, you're on your fourth vote. Care to explain why you're hopping so much, and pressing so little?
I strongly suspect it's that question, which you haven't answered. Your "lol" makes you seem nervous. Why so nervous about being asked questions?
Twiggie's seeming really nervous, too. Phrasing and punctuation out the window, nervous 'haha' jokes, and weirdly awkward claims of noobishness. I definitely agree with Pandar that he's trying to screen himself, but want to see Diakron's answers before changing my vote.
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o i thought he was refering to this:
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Unvote. Diakron, buddy, pal, scumboy. Don't you know that red's a bad color to love?
If you were part of a group of Masons, who would you most want to be with?
:P sorry did not look above it
hmmm i was refering to the fact you had two votes on me to poke fun at an earlier vote of yours. I'm looking for scumtells just like everyone else but i'm trying to get a wide variety of reactions to start. Unvote. Vote pandarsenic. why did you and Rysith you the same reason to accuse someone? are you scum? does saying LOL look scummy when someone ask you a (well on reflection not) stupid question?
Archangel: Why mention your role at all if you did not want to claim it? Do you realize that this was stupid?
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Mostly because it's a valid question he hadn't answered. Best to force the issue. I'm not convinced so I'm continuing to push.
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but that did not answer any questions i asked
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does saying LOL look scummy when someone ask you a (well on reflection not) stupid question?
First of all, unless you are posting from a cell phone you should try to avoid things like "lol". It makes you seem immature and unconcerned.
Either you are immature and unconcerned, or you are just scum trying(badly) to act indefensive. While it is likely the former, I will not dismiss the latter.
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does saying LOL look scummy when someone ask you a (well on reflection not) stupid question?
First of all, unless you are posting from a cell phone you should try to avoid things like "lol". It makes you seem immature and unconcerned.
Either you are immature and unconcerned, or you are just scum trying(badly) to act indefensive. While it is likely the former, I will not dismiss the latter.
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Nice, you threw out him being a townie that did the lol on purpose to try and relax the town. Silly, silly Eduren! Still, that's not good either, it would leave him as a somewhat unhelpful townie. However, I'm still going to FoS Eduren for labeling Diakron as either scum or a really bad townie with there being NO chance of being anything else. On that note, continue as you were, Eduren.
Mostly because it's a valid question he hadn't answered. Best to force the issue. I'm not convinced so I'm continuing to push.
Hehe, way to avoid the question asked of you Pandarsenic, you would make a great politician!
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I never labeled him a bad townie. I am just annoyed by his chronically bad typing and am pointing out the scumminess of it in order to pressure him into making a few legible posts.
If as you say he might be "a townie that did the lol on purpose to try and relax the town", and the origin of your suspicion is in me not considering this, then rest easy in the knowledge that I am not trying to cast suspicion on him. I just don't want my eyes to bleed everytime he posts.
PS: You are already voting for me, plus you have a shiny new FoS on me. Why are you not calling for my head yet?
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I never labeled him a bad townie. I am just annoyed by his chronically bad typing and am pointing out the scumminess of it in order to pressure him into making a few legible posts.
If as you say he might be "a townie that did the lol on purpose to try and relax the town", and the origin of your suspicion is in me not considering this, then rest easy in the knowledge that I am not trying to cast suspicion on him. I just don't want my eyes to bleed everytime he posts.
PS: You are already voting for me, plus you have a shiny new FoS on me. Why are you not calling for my head yet?
Do you want me to call for your death? I didn't consider the FoS all that powerful, considering it's still day one and most people haven't really said all that much. But if you want me to say you're scum over and over, I'll gladly do so.
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Nice, you threw out him being a townie that did the lol on purpose to try and relax the town. Silly, silly Eduren! Still, that's not good either, it would leave him as a somewhat unhelpful townie. However, I'm still going to FoS Eduren for labeling Diakron as either scum or a really bad townie with there being NO chance of being anything else. On that note, continue as you were, Eduren.
I'm sorry if I misinterpreted your tone here but you seem to be saying "Yay, I found scum!"
If it really was a simple "as you were", then I apologize.
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I'm pretty sure Twiggie was just random voting. I stand by my vote for Eduren though. Asking for roles is bad.
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anyways, unvote, vote archangel. who would you vote right now? you should probably vote them.
I don't really know. No one jumps out at me as being, well, anything really.
@Those who are asking about my mentioning of liking my role: For all you know, I might be required to do what I did. Remember what game you're playing. It doesn't mean anything.
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why did you and Rysith you the same reason to accuse someone? are you scum? does saying LOL look scummy when someone ask you a (well on reflection not) stupid question?
Yes. Changing your posting style dramatically when questioned by dropping formerly-held rules of phrasing, and nervously saying things like lol, when questioned does look scummy. Yes, continuing to dodge questions rather than answering them looks scummy. Yes, it's a common enough scumtell that I'm not surprised that both Pandarsenic and I picked up on it.
No, I'm not scum. That is a stupid question, scum.
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Seeing as votes are being tossed willy nilly, I'm gonna hold my vote.
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Seeing as votes are being tossed willy nilly, I'm gonna hold my vote.
Are you scared to vote for somebody? You must have some suspicions. Why not tell us about them?
For all you know, I might be required to do what I did. Remember what game you're playing. It doesn't mean anything.
This is obfuscating. If you are townie you need to say "I am required" or "I am not required". Throwing out hypotheticals when you know the real answer does not help the town.
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anyways, unvote, vote archangel. who would you vote right now? you should probably vote them.
I don't really know. No one jumps out at me as being, well, anything really.
Not suspecting anyone is a pretty often used scum tactic to stay out of any debating going on.
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Unvote.
Archangel, you and your WIFOM can go to hell.
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does saying LOL look scummy when someone ask you a (well on reflection not) stupid question?
First of all, unless you are posting from a cell phone you should try to avoid things like "lol". It makes you seem immature and unconcerned.
Either you are immature and unconcerned, or you are just scum trying(badly) to act indefensive. While it is likely the former, I will not dismiss the latter.
OR i could be someone who was played on and repair computers since he was 4 and has over 17 years of playing against people through just about every type of FTP... ahh the good old days of text base assassin :) You got a problem with the way i type then dont read my posts... i won't change my style for you :P
I never labeled him a bad townie. I am just annoyed by his chronically bad typing and am pointing out the scumminess of it in order to pressure him into making a few legible posts.
so in other words you would lynch someone who won't post the way YOU want them to? THAT is scummy, you are jumping at tiny things to make a case against someone. Aggressiveness is a town tell but this is getting close to misdirection.
Fake-edit: Aechangel that is THE stupidest shi- i ever heard from anyone...
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so in other words you would lynch someone who won't post the way YOU want them to? THAT is scummy, you are jumping at tiny things to make a case against someone. Aggressiveness is a town tell but this is getting close to misdirection.
It is clear from my posts that I had no intention of lynching you and in fact haven't even voted you.
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??? well i guess i'm sorry about accusing you of leading a lynch on me but i could of swore you voted for me
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??? well i guess i'm sorry about accusing you of leading a lynch on me but i could of swore you voted for me
No, I think I'm the unofficial leader of the lynch on you.
And you still haven't answered my questions, which makes me continue to declare you scum and push for your lynch. Don't think that I'll let up just because you've started throwing up active lurking.
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anyways, unvote, vote archangel. who would you vote right now? you should probably vote them.
I don't really know. No one jumps out at me as being, well, anything really.
@Those who are asking about my mentioning of liking my role: For all you know, I might be required to do what I did. Remember what game you're playing. It doesn't mean anything.
That seems like a WIFOM to me. Unvote Vote Archangel.
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VOTE COUNT:
ExKirby - RedWarrior0 [1]
Diakron - Rysith, Vector [2]
Pandarsenic - Diakron [1]
Archangel - Eduren, Leafsnail, Twiggie, Pandarsenic, ExKirby [5]
Eduren - Mr.Person, Cheeetar [2]
Not Voting - Archangel [1]
~Voting Ends In 5 Hours TODAY~
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Voting ends in like 10 minutes and I don't think anything is going to change, let me write the stuff stuff.
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QUICK LET'S ALL CHANGE VOTES TO BUGGER UP TOONY'S FLAVOUR TEXT
On second thoughts, nah.
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Archangel snores pleasantly as knifes and guns are drawn upon him. He yawns absently and looks around, not at all surprised. "I'm getting lynch, right?" he says like he doesn't have a care in the world. "YES" say lynch mob. The proceed to kill him, stabs and bullet holes litter his body. You go to his room in the conservative camp and find out he's a BLOODY CONSERVATIVE. Go team Town!
Archangel - Bloody Conservative - M
Send in your night-actions.
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Argh. I made this game too complicated. It's going to take forever to sort through everything.
Do you guys still want this to continue?
NOTE: Do not reveal any information yet.
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Yes. Continue.
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Hell yeah.
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If this wasn't confusing, it wouldn't be ToonyMafia! Onward to ADVENTURE!
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If you can.
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Yes please.
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You wake up to find no one missing. However, it seems that in this Toon Mafia everyone will appear to be a Bloody Conservative when they are initially lynched, but will reveal their real role the next day.
Archangel - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - T
~DAY 2 START~
I AM SO CONFUSED. YOU'LL SEE SOON.
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This sounds like fun.
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This sounds like fun.
GAH YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
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So... does Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1 mean there's another?
Also, what the fuck Tom Cruise? ._.
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ExKirby, you spent most of Day 1 saying "I'm not going to vote for anybody yet". That, combined with posts devoid of content make you very suspicious. So Ill give you a chance to help the town.
What were your suspicions yesterday? Did the lynch change that?
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So... does Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1 mean there's another?
Also, what the fuck Tom Cruise? ._.
It could. I'm guessing you're the Anti Tom Cruise Fan 2, or Tom Cruise.
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So... does Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1 mean there's another?
Also, what the fuck Tom Cruise? ._.
It could. I'm guessing you're the Anti Tom Cruise Fan 2, or Tom Cruise.
Newp. Quit rolefishing.
I'm just wondering, how many Tom Cruise fans are there? What do they do? Were they in contact? Is this some sort of... Mafia with a VIP or something? @_@
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How am I rolefishing? I'm guessing, but not asking for it. Also: Your asking for details about Anti-Tom Cruise Fan is itself role fishing, because if someone answered you, you'd know they were an Anti-Tom Cruise Fan. (Unless there is a role with knowledge of the Anti-Tom Cruise Fan, but then they'd also reveal their role in answering your question).
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So... does Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1 mean there's another?
Also, what the fuck Tom Cruise? ._.
It could. I'm guessing you're the Anti Tom Cruise Fan 2, or Tom Cruise.
Or, like many things in Toon Mafia, the sudden appearance of Tom Cruise is confusing and random. Of course, that's why we're playing Toon Mafia, so I can't complain.
I'm going to go back to voting Diakron for now, because I think that he was acting scummy and don't see Archangel's lynch and flip as changing that. Diakron, can you explain yourself any better today? Maybe answer the question I asked yesterday?
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Somebody needs to give me a message.
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Somebody needs to give me a message.
Are you talking to me? ???
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Somebody needs to give me a message.
Are you talking to me? ???
No.
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So... does Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1 mean there's another?
Also, what the fuck Tom Cruise? ._.
It could. I'm guessing you're the Anti Tom Cruise Fan 2, or Tom Cruise.
Or, like many things in Toon Mafia, the sudden appearance of Tom Cruise is confusing and random. Of course, that's why we're playing Toon Mafia, so I can't complain.
I'm going to go back to voting Diakron for now, because I think that he was acting scummy and don't see Archangel's lynch and flip as changing that. Diakron, can you explain yourself any better today? Maybe answer the question I asked yesterday?
sure if you remind me. :) can't think of much other then Borderlands.
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ExKirby, you spent most of Day 1 saying "I'm not going to vote for anybody yet". That, combined with posts devoid of content make you very suspicious. So Ill give you a chance to help the town.
What were your suspicions yesterday? Did the lynch change that?
Look, day 1 lasted two days in real time. First day, due to other experiences, I didn't want to random vote. Day two, I voted Archangel on a WIFOM.
So, eduren, have you learned to think before you act?
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So, eduren, have you learned to think before you act?
What do I have to think about?
My point is that your occasional posts are mostly devoid of content.
Since we don't have much information yet, I think we should step away from role speculation. Treat this like any other game, and incorporate roles when they come up. We need to focus on finding scum and not figuring out roles/anti-roles.
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So, eduren, have you learned to think before you act?
What do I have to think about?
My point is that your occasional posts are mostly devoid of content.
Since we don't have much information yet, I think we should step away from role speculation. Treat this like any other game, and incorporate roles when they come up. We need to focus on finding scum and not figuring out roles/anti-roles.
You know, I think you're now in my shoes. Now, to press harder. Who said I was digging for roles? All I was looking for was scum. And you look overly scummy.
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Well, we now know there's some kind of weird Tom Cruise thing going on. I also know of someone else that's going on - someone is trying to convert us.
How do I know? At the start of the game, I was given an ability (not part of my role, an ability like Mind Shield in paranormal) that prevents me from being converted. And guess what? Someone came to my apartment last night trying to convert me. So what do you think is going on? Mason group? Hivemind? Tom Cruise scientology cult? Mafia that can convert? Eh, doesn't matter for now.
So, Diakron, what was up with your weird behaviour yesterday? Why were you trying to derail and misdirect us in your posts? Why were you trying to build up a sortof victim complex? Could you be... a SCIENTOLOGIST (or whatever the hell it is we're trying to hunt)?!
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Weren't we hunting conservatives?
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Yeah, we might've been. It's kinda difficult to tell, what with Archangel's falseflip.
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I'm going to go back to voting Diakron for now, because I think that he was acting scummy and don't see Archangel's lynch and flip as changing that. Diakron, can you explain yourself any better today? Maybe answer the question I asked yesterday?
sure if you remind me. :) can't think of much other then Borderlands.
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Diakron, you're on your fourth vote. Care to explain why you're hopping so much, and pressing so little?
To that, I'll add: Why are you avoiding the question so much, and contributing so little in your posts?
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God damnit, why haven't I been contacted yet? You know who you are.
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Oh, and vote Leafsnail. Something weird is going on and I think Leafsnail's roleflip will clear some of it up for me.
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Oh, and vote Leafsnail. Something weird is going on and I think Leafsnail's roleflip will clear some of it up for me.
Hmm? So you're proposing lynching someone you don't particularly think is scum but whose roleflip you'd be "interested in"? Why? All you'll find out if you lynch me is my rolename.
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Oh, and vote Leafsnail. Something weird is going on and I think Leafsnail's roleflip will clear some of it up for me.
Hmm? So you're proposing lynching someone you don't particularly think is scum but whose roleflip you'd be "interested in"? Why? All you'll find out if you lynch me is my rolename.
And power, but that's not the point. The point is, Mr.person is acting wierd. So vote Mr.Perosn.
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~NOTE: Only the rolename and alignment is revealed on death. (the next day for this one)~
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You know, I think you're now in my shoes. Now, to press harder. Who said I was digging for roles? All I was looking for was scum. And you look overly scummy.
The last part wasn't directed at you, sorry.
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Ok, since nobody is posting: I'm guessing Tom Cruise is a role, and a town role. My reasoning is that the Anti-Tom Cruise is a town role also, and if their objective would be to kill Tom Cruise, it would be stupid to have Tom Cruise be mafia. If he was, the objective would be basically to kill mafia as town.
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Ok, since nobody is posting: I'm guessing Tom Cruise is a role, and a town role. My reasoning is that the Anti-Tom Cruise is a town role also, and if their objective would be to kill Tom Cruise, it would be stupid to have Tom Cruise be mafia. If he was, the objective would be basically to kill mafia as town.
Hmm, so like a "lyncher" or possibly "anti-lyncher" role? Yeah, TM often has multiple win conditions.
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I can see a sort of Lyncher/Lychee thing being integrated into TM's larger T vs. M framework, yeah....
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Ok then. It would probably be easier for them to just win with the town though, I guess. Although I'm now kinda worried about whatever the group that tried to convert me last night are doing. I mean, they COULD be a pro town mason group, or they could be some kind of anti town cult...
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Ok, look, there's only 3 things Leafsnail can be. An unconvertable mafia, the head of the anti-Tom Cruise legion, or Tom Cruise. (I'm going to exclude unconvertable townies, I guess)
I dunno how many mafia there are, but that's a pretty good chance at him being scum.
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VOTE COUNT:
ExKirby - Eduren [1]
Diakron - Rysith, Leafsnail [2]
Mr.Person - ExKirby [1]
Leafsnail - Mr.Person [1]
Not Voting - Pandarsenic, RedWarrior0, Diakron, Cheeetar, Vector, Twiggie [6]
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Ok, look, there's only 3 things Leafsnail can be. An unconvertable mafia, the head of the anti-Tom Cruise legion, or Tom Cruise. (I'm going to exclude unconvertable townies, I guess)
I dunno how many mafia there are, but that's a pretty good chance at him being scum.
I actually don't see how you've gotten to this conclusion. Leafsnail is an unconvertible something, and that's all we know. Heck, this is Toon Mafia. It doesn't have to make sense. He could even be an unconvertible conversion role, for all we know. We don't know how many groups of converters there are.
... Maybe the game makes more sense than that, but I'm not willing to bet a good player's life on this sort of meta-gaming, especially in Toon.
Also, Twiggie. Please stop lurking and come talk to us. Who's your list of potential scum, and what do you think about Tom Cruise?
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Ok, look, there's only 3 things Leafsnail can be. An unconvertable mafia, the head of the anti-Tom Cruise legion, or Tom Cruise. (I'm going to exclude unconvertable townies, I guess)
I dunno how many mafia there are, but that's a pretty good chance at him being scum.
I actually don't see how you've gotten to this conclusion. Leafsnail is an unconvertible something, and that's all we know. Heck, this is Toon Mafia. It doesn't have to make sense. He could even be an unconvertible conversion role, for all we know. We don't know how many groups of converters there are.
... Maybe the game makes more sense than that, but I'm not willing to bet a good player's life on this sort of meta-gaming, especially in Toon.
Also, Twiggie. Please stop lurking and come talk to us. Who's your list of potential scum, and what do you think about Tom Cruise?
Let's just say I have inside information and be done with it.
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Unvote.
Ah, Mr.Person, what is this mysterious "Inside Information"? Could it be that perhaps you want to take out an unconvertible towny to help yourself? And why do you think I'm the head of an "Anti-Tom Cruise legion"? I mean, there might not even be a legion. It might just be 2 - 3 players who happen to have the same goal. I can't see why simply having a little "unconvertible" ability, and having a conversion attempt on me last night amount to being scum.
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Unvote
Mr.Person
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Unvote
Mr.Person
... Um? Not even going to say a word?
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Do I have to?
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Er, yes, actually, Eduren. You don't get a free pass just because you're joining me. A common scum tactic is just to jump on what the last person said and do exactly the same thing to avoid suspicion.
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What? How's that suspicious?
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Towny - "I need to use well reasoned arguments and read people carefully to determine who's scum, so we can lynch them."
Scum - "I don't really care who gets lynched, as long as it's not me! Go ahead and lynch whoever it is you're voting for!"
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Well I disagree.
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... And I disagree with you. If I weren't so busy trying to get Twiggie out here, I'd vote you.
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What! Why?
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Bandwagonning without anything new to add is the oldest scumtell in the book, Eduren.
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No its not.
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No its not.
Hahaha. Bandwagoning for no reason + jumping a foot when I threaten to vote you, however...
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Wow. I try to be a good townie and vote who I think is suspicious. Then I get berated. I try to defend myself, and I get berated some more.
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Wow. I try to be a good townie and vote who I think is suspicious. Then I get berated. I try to defend myself, and I get berated some more.
... You call this berating? Wow. I poked you. There was no yelling or insults.
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Well that poke really hurt.
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Alright, look. I really want to see a mafia roleflip. Leafsnail would work, and the odds really do say he's probably scum. On the other hand, I must say, Eduren just bandwagon'd without explaining himself, which is about the most anti-town thing a person can do. You have to explain why you're voting me.
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Mr.Person, my vote remains on you until you explain why having a conversion resistant ability makes me "most likely scum". Don't scum normally kill their converter, anyway?
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Alright, look. I really want to see a mafia roleflip. Leafsnail would work, and the odds really do say he's probably scum. On the other hand, I must say, Eduren just bandwagon'd without explaining himself, which is about the most anti-town thing a person can do. You have to explain why you're voting me.
You were being suspicious.
*cough*OMGUS*cough*
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Mr.Person, my vote remains on you until you explain why having a conversion resistant ability makes me "most likely scum". Don't scum normally kill their converter, anyway?
I already said it, you're either Tom Cruise or head of the anti-Tom Cruise faction. If neither of those groups are the mafia, then I'd bet you the mafia is unconvertable.
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We know the ATC isn't mafia, since Archangel flipped town. And, as I said, it was an ability randomly granted to me. I am not Tom Cruise or in the anti-Tom Cruise faction.
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We know the ATC isn't mafia, since Archangel flipped town. And, as I said, it was an ability randomly granted to me. I am not Tom Cruise or in the anti-Tom Cruise faction.
Or maybe the ATC is spread across both scum and town.
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The mafia never have secondary win conditions, do they? Otherwise they could just claim, out their scum partners and everyone wins.
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That's a lot of jumping around over what looks to me like some very shaky groundwork.
Do we know that it was Leafsnail that prevented the conversion, rather than something else (a cult-specific blocker, a roleblocker that prevents any night action from working, etc.)?
Do we know that Leafsnail was even an attempted conversion last night? He might be a third-party conversion role, or scum in a group that contains conversion roles, and he's trying to deflect the hunt onto not-him. I'm not saying that I believe him to be that, just that it's a possibility that I haven't seen considered.
Mr.Person: What is this inside information of which you speak? How do you know that those are the only possibilities (as opposed to, say, a third party intervening)? I'd generally agree with your reasoning that it's likely heads of factions and possibly the mafia that's nonconvertible, but I'd contest the assumption that Tom Cruise is somehow immune to conversion and that the only sub-faction going around is the Anti Tom Cruise people. We've at least got Anti Tom Cruise and whoever is doing the conversions.
Eduren: You really did jump, almost as badly as Diakron yesterday. Don't defend yourself, explain your reasoning.
Pre-post edit:
Leafsnail, are we supposed to just take you at your word that you've got special conversion-immunity, if you aren't Tom Cruise or ATC?
It's also perfectly possible to give mafia other win conditions: Lynchers and Usurpers, for example. You just can't let them win with the town.
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But the game doesn't end with a lyncher winning. So if a mafia was a lyncher, he could say:
"Lynch dude x and I'll tell you who my scumbuddies are"
Town wins, and the mafia guy wins.
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And it just said, at the start of the game, that I had a random ability - Unconvertible. I know noone blocked me, it just said someone came to my room and buggered off when they realised I couldn't be converted.
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Eduren: You really did jump, almost as badly as Diakron yesterday. Don't defend yourself, explain your reasoning.
I'm not being defensive!
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That's a lot of jumping around over what looks to me like some very shaky groundwork.
Do we know that it was Leafsnail that prevented the conversion, rather than something else (a cult-specific blocker, a roleblocker that prevents any night action from working, etc.)?
Do we know that Leafsnail was even an attempted conversion last night? He might be a third-party conversion role, or scum in a group that contains conversion roles, and he's trying to deflect the hunt onto not-him. I'm not saying that I believe him to be that, just that it's a possibility that I haven't seen considered.
Mr.Person: What is this inside information of which you speak? How do you know that those are the only possibilities (as opposed to, say, a third party intervening)? I'd generally agree with your reasoning that it's likely heads of factions and possibly the mafia that's nonconvertible, but I'd contest the assumption that Tom Cruise is somehow immune to conversion and that the only sub-faction going around is the Anti Tom Cruise people. We've at least got Anti Tom Cruise and whoever is doing the conversions.
Eduren: You really did jump, almost as badly as Diakron yesterday. Don't defend yourself, explain your reasoning.
Pre-post edit:
Leafsnail, are we supposed to just take you at your word that you've got special conversion-immunity, if you aren't Tom Cruise or ATC?
It's also perfectly possible to give mafia other win conditions: Lynchers and Usurpers, for example. You just can't let them win with the town.
Alright, then. Unvote and vote RedWarrior. He's Tom Cruise, I know this for a fact. I was a member of his silly little cult, but I got converted away last night. Meanwhile, he attempted to convert Leafsnail. I've been trying to decide how many people are anti-Tom Cruise, if the mafia is anti-Tom Cruise, how much of the town is pro-Tom Cruise, what'll happen if he gets lynched, ect ect. In any case, my new win con is him being dead. If we don't lynch him tonight, he'll convert somebody else and all kinds of crap will happen. I wanted a mafia role-flip to maybe see if they were anti-Tom Cruise, but fuck it. He needs to be dead so I want him dead. Best part? If he's not Tom Cruise, you guys can feel free to lynch me, ok?
Sorry RedWarrior, but that's what happened. And I was gonna have fun claiming scum at lylo just to try and get lynched, too!
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If RedWarrior0 is capable of converting people, best he gets beaten down now.
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Unvote
Redwarrior
For the same reasons.
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Stuffs
Oh, the WIFOM...
You see, why would Toony put in a role so broken that now the scum is screwed? How do we know that M.P isn't in a scumteam with two other people (1/4 of 12) who wants town to go on a bandwagon against another townie? Just because he claims that he used to be a Tom Cruise fan but isn't now doesn't mean that he got converted. Picture this: Three scum, M.P, Pandar, and eduren (they hopped on my bandwagon within 7 minutes) are Tom Cruise and fans. M.P claims Converted TCF on day2 and claims I'm Tom Cruise. Then, let's focus on this:
And I was gonna have fun claiming scum at lylo just to try and get lynched, too!
Subtle hint on his role, perhaps? Once I flip town in the morning, he gets lynched so whatever his ability is can kick in.
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If I'm scum, then why aren't you voting me?
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You and Pandar were two purely hypothetical names. I just chose you because you two hopped on so quickly.
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A likely story.
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He needs to be dead so I want him dead. Best part? If he's not Tom Cruise, you guys can feel free to lynch me, ok?
No scum would make this bet.
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He needs to be dead so I want him dead. Best part? If he's not Tom Cruise, you guys can feel free to lynch me, ok?
No scum would make this bet.
This:
And I was gonna have fun claiming scum at lylo just to try and get lynched, too!
implies that he knew something about a scum role that activated on death. I mean, why the hell would scum claim at lylo?
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Why are you defending him Pandarsenic?
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He needs to be dead so I want him dead. Best part? If he's not Tom Cruise, you guys can feel free to lynch me, ok?
No scum would make this bet.
This:
And I was gonna have fun claiming scum at lylo just to try and get lynched, too!
implies that he knew something about a scum role that activated on death. I mean, why the hell would scum claim at lylo?
It's more of a matter of, at lylo, as long as the cult leader isn't lynched, the entire cult wins.
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RedWarrior0. I am a member of the Anti-Tom Cruise group. I do not know my teammates. As my previous teammate flipped as town, you can trust me to be town (or a mafia claiming Anti-Tom Cruise to get onto a bandwagon and portray self as a town).
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Redwarrior i converted Mr. P last night :P
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Also: Eduren's role is to get lynched. He's a joker or something. Nightkilling him would reduce the problem if you're still suspicious of him.
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Also: Eduren's role is to get lynched. He's a joker or something. Nightkilling him would reduce the problem if you're still suspicious of him.
Oh really?
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Why are you defending him Pandarsenic?
You call that defending him?
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I said it, didn't I?
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I said it, didn't I?
Just because you said it doesn't mean it makes any sense. Defending usually consists of actually, y'know, defending someone.
Not just point out only moron scum would trade 1:1 with town.
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If RedWarrior0 is capable of converting people, best he gets beaten down now.
Redwarrior i converted Mr. P last night :P
So... why exactly are we trusting Mr.Person that redwarrior0 can convert people? Why are we voting for redwarrior0 for converting people when Diakron has publicly claimed the ability to convert people?
The bandwagon on redwarrior0 formed much too quickly for my tastes, and basically on Mr.Person's word that redwarrior0 is a cult leader.
He needs to be dead so I want him dead. Best part? If he's not Tom Cruise, you guys can feel free to lynch me, ok?
No scum would make this bet.
I'd agree with that in a normal mafia game, but we've a) already got an accusation of jokerdom, and a joker would make that bet and b) a cult might well be willing to trade 1:1 because it buys them another two conversions, for a net +1 gain. That's the equivalent of trading 3:1, something that I've definitely seen scum willing to do.
RedWarrior0. I am a member of the Anti-Tom Cruise group. I do not know my teammates. As my previous teammate flipped as town, you can trust me to be town (or a mafia claiming Anti-Tom Cruise to get onto a bandwagon and portray self as a town).
Why are you WIFOMing explicitly if you are town?
Given that I agree with Pandarsenic that we don't want converters running around, that Diakron can either convert people or is lying, and I was suspicious of him already, I'm going to go back to voting Diakron.
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Ok, fine, I'll roleclaim. I am also an ATC fan, although I had no idea that I had any teammates until this morning. My goal is either to win with the town OR get Tom Cruise lynched. I got a random ability, apparently, from a possible 3 - and I got the ability which meant I could not be converted. To be honest, I'm inclined to believe MP, and if he's lying, well, we've got ourselves two scum (since Diakron backed him up). Unvote. Vote RedWarrior0, and if he's not Tom Cruise, we can lynch MP and Diakron on the next two days.
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Ok, fine, I'll roleclaim. I am also an ATC fan, although I had no idea that I had any teammates until this morning. My goal is either to win with the town OR get Tom Cruise lynched. I got a random ability, apparently, from a possible 3 - and I got the ability which meant I could not be converted. To be honest, I'm inclined to believe MP, and if he's lying, well, we've got ourselves two scum (since Diakron backed him up). Unvote. Vote RedWarrior0, and if he's not Tom Cruise, we can lynch MP and Diakron on the next two days.
You're not the only one. I also stand as an Anti-Tom Cruise. And (unvote) RedWarrior0 looks to be the TC.
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Wait, so, uh, if we lynch Tom Cruise, what will happen? Will we all disappear?
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IDE/THEORY: ATC takes up most of town. Because currently it's me, Leafsnail, ExKirby and Archangel that are ATC.
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Oh, and Leafsnail: I didn't get the role to win with town. My only goal is to lynch TC. So, that means you're mafia trying to appear ATC to infiltrate town when TC dies, or this is part of a crazy plan for TC to unveil all the ATC, with some of his converts claiming ATC and him just lynching some random. I'm going to continue voting for TC though, hoping for it being the first one and you being lynched when TC is lynched and all the real ATC disappear.
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Oh, I have another crazy theory: Mr. Person, Eduren and Pandarsenic are TC and fans. This is their plan to reveal the ATC, and using the theory that ToonyMan wouldn't make the goal of a special role to kill mafia then make themselves seem town and not lynched and be given time to nightkill the ATC.
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I didn't receive a secondary goal in the first place either, but if you look back at all the other Toon Mafia games, you can see that most non SK third party roles have a secondary win condition which is "Win with town". I pm'd Toony about this, and he wrote back telling me I could kill all the mafia to win as well. You can all pm Toony and ask this to him too - he'll tell you that you can win with the town too.
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I will do just that.
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Diakron is lying about having converted Mr.Person or he drew the same ability as me.
I'm another Anti-Tom-Cruise, and I'm the one who converted Mr.Person - of the three abilities, I drew a one-shot conversion.
Guys, I think there's a distinct possibility the actual theme is Tom Cruise vs. Anti-TC.
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VOTE COUNT:
RedWarrior0 - Mr.Person, Pandarsenic, Cheeetar, Diakron, Leafsnail, ExKirby [6]
Diakron - Rysith [1]
Twiggie - Vector [1]
Pandarsenic - Eduren [1]
Not Voting - RedWarrior0, Twiggie [2]
~VOTING ENDS IN ABOUT 5 HOURS~
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Diakron is lying about having converted Mr.Person or he drew the same ability as me.
I'm another Anti-Tom-Cruise, and I'm the one who converted Mr.Person - of the three abilities, I drew a one-shot conversion.
Guys, I think there's a distinct possibility the actual theme is Tom Cruise vs. Anti-TC.
Well, at the start of the game, I asked if I was town on independant, adn ToonyMan said town. Therefor, we have 2 win conditions.
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Diakron is lying about having converted Mr.Person or he drew the same ability as me.
I'm another Anti-Tom-Cruise, and I'm the one who converted Mr.Person - of the three abilities, I drew a one-shot conversion.
Guys, I think there's a distinct possibility the actual theme is Tom Cruise vs. Anti-TC.
I was converted twice. I didn't say anything because I was thinking one of the two groups might be the mafia. I dunno, this game is pretty nuts. Cult vs. Anti-cult.
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Which would explain why ToonyMan was so confused, I think he just wasn't sure what to do with me. Oh well.
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I think I screwed up.
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So? Let the ATC faction win.
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Hmm. So the Wacky/Toony-ness of this game originates from players themselves not knowing if they're scum until everyone starts claiming?
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Somebody please vote for me! I'll die if you don't.
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Somebody please vote for me! I'll die if you don't.
... I am so frackin' confused.
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Somebody please vote for me! I'll die if you don't.
Are you admitting to being a joker/jester?
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Somebody please vote for me! I'll die if you don't.
Are you admitting to being a joker/jester?
I have no clue what those are. But please vote for me.
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Somebody please vote for me! I'll die if you don't.
Are you admitting to being a joker/jester?
I have no clue what those are. But please vote for me.
Question. How many votes do you need?
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Uno!
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What's your win condition?
Mod: Mind poking Twiggie?
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He never gave me one! I assumed I was town.
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So you're some kind of role that needs at least one vote on him every day to avoid death? If that's the case, excellant. Looks like we'll be able to lynch you too after all.
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What! do you think he'd give this to scum? That'd be downright cruel!
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It'd be pretty funny.
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I could see Toony doing that to scum, but I don't think he'd have thought to originally.
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What! do you think he'd give this to scum? That'd be downright cruel!
That sounds like Toony alright.
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Wait, so if I'm reading this right, there could be a mass cull today (assuming we get TC):
RedWarrior0 lynched.
Me, Pandar, ExKirby, MP and Diakron all win and disappear.
Eduren dies due to having no votes on him.
Leaving just 5 players. Minus a possible night kill. Which means... the remaining townies may well be in lylo tomorrow. Or something.
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Why this role is not scum:
1. It'd be cruel.
2. It could easily be counteracted by having one of my buddies vote for me everyday.
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Meh.
Roleclaim: Anti-Tom Cruise.
Unvote.
RedWarrior0.
Want to make sure that I don't lose due to loopholes in the rules, where by getting Tom Cruise lynched involves my lynching him personally.
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Judging by the sheer volume of ATCs, and the fact we don't know each other, I'd have to assume that, possibly, instead of a mafia there is a cult of Tom Cruise, with Tom Cruise as the leader trying to convert everyone to win. I guess the rules didn't take conversions from TC to ATC into account...
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Also, the fact that I checked with Toony and he said any way Tom Cruise dies, as long as he's dead, means I win...
It's basically a mass of light power-role townies. :I
Any other ATCs out there can confirm with our wonderful mod that all you need is Tom Cruise to have died.
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Huh? But Toony told me I had to get him lynched... ah well.
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I'm deciding whether or not to have the people that "won" to leave the game. Probably so.
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Well, this is broken due to the "change from scum to town then rat out your ex-buddies". Personally, I think there should never be a way for scum to turn town. It's almost as gamebreaking as the old Watcher from Paranormal 8. I might as well just vote RedWarrior0, then.
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It's not broken! You'll see!
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VOTE COUNT:
RedWarrior0 - Mr.Person, Pandarsenic, Cheeetar, Diakron, Leafsnail, ExKirby, Vector, RedWarrior0 [8]
Diakron - Rysith [1]
Pandarsenic - Eduren [1]
Not Voting - Twiggie [1]
RedWarrior0 is to be lynched you all say! Most of your decide it is for the best interest (being that the game is broken and all). The lot of you all grab ropes and tie them to all his limbs. You rip him to pieces or something.
RedWarrior0 - Bloody Conservative - M
Seems he was a Bloody Conservative, highly doubtful though. SUDDENLY, everyone except Rysith, Eduren, and Twiggie disappear somewhere and appear to have won!
You'll get their roles tomorrow now....SHOO SHOOO TO THE NIGHT AND SEND ME YOUR ACTIONS.
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The trio awake. Rysith, Twiggie, and Eduren rise from their rooms and go to the cafe to discuss their situation. Eduren points out that everyone actually role-flipped now and they should check it out. Seems...
"Just check the front page."
A postcard is stapled to the refrigerator. Rysith pulls it off and reads it the the group.
"Well, that makes sense!" Says Rysith, throwing the card away. "It doesn't matter anymore now anyway."
Eduren eyes him suspiciously, "Why is this?"
Rysith laughs, Twiggie gets up from the table and draws a gun on Eduren.
"What is this?! I thought all the mafia were gone! We just got left behind because we aren't part of that anti-Tom Cruise cult."
Twiggie finally speaks, "It would best if you stayed quite when we kill you." he pulls back the clicky thing.
"Too Hell With This!" Eduren grabs his coat and starts walking out the door.
"HEY, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING." Scream the pair.
"Screw this mafia game, it's broken!" He pushes the door handle open and walks out of the set.
The director stands up and looks around confused for a second, "Did he just leave the set? WE WERE AT THE FINALE OF THE SHOOT."
Rysith and Twiggie shrug.
"GET HIM BACK HERE NOW." The voice echoes through the room.
"Yes sir!" The two begin running to the entrance, wondering why they signed up to be in the B-Mafia movie.
And that's it. I completely screwed this game over so I decided to at least make the ending funny. Here are the winners,
Pandarsenic
Mr.Person
Leafsnail
Diakron
Rysith
Archangel
ExKirby
Cheeetar
Vector
Twiggie
And the unforuntate two losers,
RedWarrior0
Eduren
It wasn't their fault really, it should be me.
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Yay! Ludicrously broken game!
Poor Eduren and RedWarrior0. You totally didn't deserve to lose.
Ya know, I'd always assumed that all the roles in this game would be cartoon characters, with anime characters as the scum. Hmm, you could have a Hair Cop role...
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I'm not going to host a game until I'm sure there isn't anything stupid going to happen.
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Man, this was an awesome idea... too bad it didn't work, though.
What was George Lopaz's role about, anyway?
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I'll post role info in a bit, for now!
~Pandarsenic - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
~Mr.Person - Tom Cruise Fan 2 (converted to Anti-Tom Cruise Fanhood Night 1) - m(t) - GONE - Day 2 Won
XLeafsnail - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
~RedWarrior0 - Tom Cruise - m - DEAD - Lynched Day 2
~Diakron - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
~Rysith - (Fake) Tom Cruise - sk
XArchangel - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 - t - DEAD - Lynched Day 1
~ExKirby - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 2 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
XCheeetar - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
XVector - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 3 - t - GONE - Day 2 Won
~Twiggie - Anti-Tom Cruise Fan 1 (converted to Fake Tom Cruisehood Night 2) - t(sk)
~eduren - George Lopaz - t - DEAD - Killed Day 3
PRO-TOWN:
C\Pandarsenic
C\Leafsnail
C\Diakron
C\Archangel
C\ExKirby
C\Cheeetar
C\Vector
C\Twiggie
C\eduren
PRO-MAFIA:
C\Mr.Person
C\RedWarrior0
PRO-YELLOW:
C\Rysith
Day 1 - Conservative Camp
Day 2 - Confusing? I THINK NOT
Day 3 - Too Hell With It
Night 1 Actions:
~Rysith convert Pandarsenic
~Diakron convert Mr.Person
~Eduren inspect Mr.Person
~RedWarrior0 convert Leafsnail
~Pandarsenic convert Mr.Person
~Twiggie convert Pandarsenic
~ExKirby inspect Diakron
Night 2 Actions:
~Rysith convert Twiggie
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For future reference, having a mafia member join the town is the biggest no-no possible.
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George Lopaz - You die if no one votes for you at the end of the day. Get atleast one to live. You can investigate one of the people that vote you.
At first I thought that this would be fun, and it kinda was. Of course I had to play scummily and talk my way out of it by the end of the day.
Day1- Started off bandwagoning, saw an opportunity to rolefish, took it. Thankfully, Archangel saved my hide by acting even scummier.
Night1- Investigated Mr. Person, got a cryptic message probably due to the conversion.
Mr.Person is a good target to inspect. You snoop around his room when you see him leave for the bathroom. Seems like he is Town, but everything feels a little off....you're pretty sure he's town though.
Day2- Blatantly Bandwagoned Mr. Person, tried to "Overreact" to all these questions. Either you guys saw through that, or your attention was elsewhere. Desperate plea for votes ("Forgot" to mention my investigative ablilities) and you guys were understandably skeptical.
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Nothing wrong with the role, it looked like a rather interesting one. Just the rest of the game was hopelessly broken :P.
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Yes, this role was fine. I just cursed Toony for giving it to me.
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Probably because I was converted TWICE and investigated. I feel kind bad about how the game was broken, it would of been fun to see what would of happened if I was unconvertable. You see, in my scum form, I would of converted one of the people to vote for me. You see? This would of been cool if the Tom Cruise Fans couldn't be converted.
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For future reference, having a mafia member join the town is the biggest no-no possible.
Exactly. This was in one of the dead ones, Super-Lyncher IIRC. It totally broke the game. I'd like to see how it would play out if TC fans were unconvertable, too. Or if town had no conversion role. Or both. It just makes the game informed majority against informed minority (while the SKs are laughing their asses off in the background).
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That was the Saulus role, wasn't it? Although the person who claimed Saulus (Frelock) actually turned out to be a Jester :P.
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Mr.Person should have killed Pandarsenic and Diakron. :-P
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Wait wait. so both sides could convert each other?
O.o
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Anyone marked "Anti Tom Cruise Fan 1" had a one shot conversion ability. RedWarrior0, Tom Cruise, also had a conversion every night. Unfortunately for him, it bounced off my Anti Tom Cruise Fan 3 ability. MP, what ability did you start off with? And Rysith, did you as an SK have any special abilities other than a conversion every night?
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LOVE the concept. Mass conversion ftw.
Just has to be a way to make it work though without mass breakage.
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LOVE the concept. Mass conversion ftw.
Just has to be a way to make it work though without mass breakage.
CRITICAL_OVERLOAD
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M.P had TC fan 2: Convert the person who hammers the vote on you.
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OMG even more awesome.
Toony, the game may have broke, but the roles are kickin. So have to get them into a game.
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Sure, do whatever you want.
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And Rysith, did you as an SK have any special abilities other than a conversion every night?
I had thinking that I was tom cruise, and being very confused when Mr.Person claimed Redwarrior was Tom Cruise. Claiming TC myself seemed like a rather bad idea, though.
Toony: I'll echo that the concept was awesome, but allowing a mafia to be converted really let the game break. If something like that is going to happen, I'd think that it would be best to only let the leaders know who the fans are, and make the leaders unconvertable. Having town conversion roles without significant neutrals is also sometimes difficult, since there aren't many targets that it will work on.
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So you, weirdly, actually had an advantage in that you didn't have a team mate to turn on you or a bunch of people gunning for ya :P.
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So you, weirdly, actually had an advantage in that you didn't have a team mate to turn on you or a bunch of people gunning for ya :P.
Yes, he did, the lucky bastard.
Toony, what did each TCF role do?
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Items in "()" weren't given to the player.
Roles:
PRO-TOWN:
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Anti-Tom Cruise Fan - You are sick (and tired) of this Tom Cruise fellow running around all nilly filly. He must be stopped, your goal? To lynch Tom Cruise. You have a random ability selected from a pool of three. You got...
1. Can convert someone once per game into your Anti-Tom Cruise Fan Hood.
2. Can investigate someone every other night to see their alignment.
3. Can not be converted.
Town
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George Lopaz - You die if no one votes for you at the end of the day. Get at least one to live. You can investigate one of the people that vote you.
Town
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PRO-MAFIA:
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Tom Cruise - You are the best Tom Cruise! You and your one loyal fan must take over this place. You may once each night convert someone to your fan hood. You new fans get some good abilities to help you on your quest.
Mafia
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Tom Cruise Fan - You are a fan of Tom Cruise! You must help him win! You will have one of three abilities. You have...
1. Have two votes when voting with Tom Cruise.
2. Convert the person that hammers the vote on you.
3. Kill the person that hammers the vote on you.
Mafia
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PRO-YELLOW:
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(Fake) Tom Cruise - You are the almighty Tom Cruise! You may convert someone each night to become your fan! When you have the power to overrule the votes....you win! Make use of your power Tom Cruise!
Yellow
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Question - when you say "hammered" does that mean the last person who voted for you? I mean, considering this game had no hammers.
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Yeah, last person.
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Hmm..
I may be 100% wrong here, BUT
If you set it so that Tom Cruise fans don't know each other or know Tom Cruise (though Tom Cruise himself would know all), have the real Tom Cruise show up pro-town on investigations, AND make it so that any attempt to convert either Tom Cruises or George Lopaz fails then it should balance out.
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But then the TC fans, who are effectively anti-lynchers, wouldn't know who to protect...
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In the least, you know to be careful in 'your scumhunt'. If you think they are scum then it might be best not to let them die.
Also, as a fan, your goal is to keep Tom alive, not you. What's more, you're a bit of a liability to stay alive since you may be converted. What's MORE, 2 out of 3 of your powers work if you get lynched.
Result: plenty of reasons to bus yourself.
It's like a game full of jesters :D
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I really would have taken that 'cannot be converted' ability off of the anti-fans and put it onto the normal fans.
It would have also been interesting if all the fans knew the fake Tom Cruise but not the real one.
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Hmm.. Well if some of the fans get the 'cannot be converted' power, then THOSE would know the real Tom Cruise. There's your true informed minority.
As for the last... oo evil.
Gives an idea: Ok, have the fans be given the same powers (Fan #1 Double vote.. #2 convertonkill #3 killonkill) However, ONE of those types are the True fans. They know Tom Cruise and they can't be converted. A second type knows the Fake Tom Cruise and can't be converted. The third type knows nothing and can be converted.
As for which type... random :D.
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The third type needs to know someone, too.
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Nah. All they'll know is that they are convertable and probably have a role that works best if they get lynched.
Thus the third type, too fearful to lynch, become a type of jester since they can best serve Tom Cruise by dying.