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Title: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on October 31, 2009, 08:58:06 pm
So remember that thread that had me writing this short story, then trying to make a novel out of it, then locking the thread and giving some stupid, vague 'OH GOD PLAGIARISM' excuse like the big, overly cautious tosser that I am? Of course you don't, only three people actually enjoyed that story. Anyway, I said I was going to try and get it published, so I happily wrote a bit more and realized this:

I didn't like the main character. I didn't like the plot. I didn't like the setting. I'd just read The Stand and where I was going with the novel seemed suspiciously similar to that and Steven King is a million billion times better than me.

So I ditched the idea and now, a few months on, I've set about writing a collection of short stories!

Anyway, I'm posting the first one (and only the first one) here to see what you think. Be brutally honest. Brutally.

Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Killas[SiN] on November 01, 2009, 09:39:36 pm
Interesting...
Good characterisation through speech, but several grammatical errors.

Not much else to say, but it's O.K...
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Hawkfrost on November 01, 2009, 09:58:49 pm
I enjoyed it, even if it slightly confused me.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: sonerohi on November 01, 2009, 10:27:03 pm
Hit-men or?

Also, I was one of the three and I can't recall the title of the thread. Helpsies please? I really did like it and I want to re-read.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: bjlong on November 01, 2009, 10:38:25 pm
That was pretty good. My only suggestion is that it's like walking through a big, open feild--nothing grabs us. Short stories need to hit us hard with hooks from the beginning, and drag us through the plot at a speed somewhere between fast and warp. Other than that, your prose is fairly good, but could really use some more descriptions.

If you're looking to get a collection published, make sure that the stories can be read as part of the same world, or else you'll have lots of trouble selling it. For a good prototype, look at Bradbury's The Martian Chronicles.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on November 01, 2009, 10:50:44 pm
Hit-men or?

Also, I was one of the three and I can't recall the title of the thread. Helpsies please? I really did like it and I want to re-read.

'Fraid I got rid of everything.

Oh and thanks for the suggestions Bjlong, they'll really help.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 15, 2010, 11:38:49 pm
AND THEN I ABANDONED THAT AS WELL.

DUN DUN DUUUUUN.

So this is just a short story thread that I'll update whenever I get struck with an idea.

Thanks to JoshuaFH for the idea. You may recognize it. I originally planned just to write about his ideas, verbatim, and got his permission too. But decided to do it for a short story assignment for school and was forced to twist it and compress it to 800 words. Therefore, this story is pretty much nothing like what I intended and I really, really like it.

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What I don't like is I never get across that THE HOUSE IS THE MONSTER, DANIEL. But other than that, yeah.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: JoshuaFH on February 16, 2010, 12:38:06 am
I like your little story. I hope that your literature teacher gives you a good grade for your story. I hope to see the continuation.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Dwarf on February 16, 2010, 10:02:30 am
House being a monster?

Damn, that reminds me of abook.
Dreizehn t'was called, by Wolfgang Hohlbein. Oh god, I dig Hohlbein.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Tack on February 17, 2010, 05:09:26 am
Well, both stories were good. But that's all I'll give them. I'll steam you my selective criticisms, but, so far your writing is good.

One thing though, you might find that you're blurring your genre's. The diary thing is great, for suspense and horror, but, in some parts you were telling the story like you would an action. Sure, it grabs at your attention, but the fast wording and stuff tends to make me detach a bit.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 17, 2010, 06:30:38 pm
Thanks for the tips Tack. I rewrote it.

MOAR CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM IS REQUIRED.

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Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Supermikhail on February 18, 2010, 02:33:13 pm
Eh, how do you like small semantical nitpics? (That must mean that the story is good enough, mustn't it?)
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Oh, and I haven't read the original post *sorry*. Maybe I have missed something.
Edit: And that whole post is supposed to be well-meaning and encourage the author.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 18, 2010, 02:46:02 pm
Hey, that's fine, it's nice to know you care enough to help me get better. But I think I need to clear a few things up.

First off,

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I don't know, later I got used to it, but at first "One day, that's how I've been here." seemed really strange. Isn't it 37 hours, she's been there?

Well, yeah, but 37 hours =/= equal two days. He's put down one mark on the wall because it hasn't been 48 hours yet, and is still, therefore, not day two (in a way). He's been there for over 24 hours, and therefore over one day, but he hasn't been there for two full days, so, one mark on the wall.

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On that note, in "get the hell outta dodge" - "dodge" should mean something?

The sentence is slang for 'get the hell out of here'.

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I hope I'm not picky with the things that are about intestinal business, but what's that description of the toilet? However does it fit with the story at all? You know, if it was a movie and we saw this contraption with the edges sparklingly sharp, and then the character approaching it to do his/her business - that would be suspenseful. But here... I don't know... A subplot without the continuation.

He's just talking about the room he's in, trying to stay calm. The toilet doesn't really have an edge like a razor. It could be it's just abnormally thin (maybe a military-grade toilet or something?). He was exaggerating.

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That screaming should have definitely been somewhere closer to the beginning of the passage. To me it seems like the author inserted it later, because thought that the whole idea with the face was scary as hell, and in fact he/she was scared the most, so he/she added the screaming, you know, in convulsions of self-congratulation. To sum up, childish.

I tried to make it clear that the face itself was scarier than the noise. He adds the screaming as an afterthought because he was too focused on the face itself. Maybe he was so shocked that the screaming didn't register right away? Possibly.

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On the other hand (or not), the impenetrably dark room (wait, so if he/she is in that room, how is he/she writing?) and the mist with things in it go nicely as references to one Youtube video (oh, sorry, that would be a reference by me, but very timely, you must agree :)) and to the novel "The Mist" by S. King.

Thanks. He's writing with a diary and a few pens he found in the corner. He doesn't know how he got to the safe room though, because he passed out in the dark room.

Anyway, thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Heron TSG on February 18, 2010, 08:49:26 pm
To clarify, 'Dodge' is a town. A saying by cowboys (at least in the movies) was 'get the hell out of dodge', and that's exactly what they meant.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 18, 2010, 09:11:14 pm
Dodge was not a nice place.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: sonerohi on February 18, 2010, 10:49:51 pm
Constructive criticism: Repost the story that you know you want to repost.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 18, 2010, 11:24:55 pm
Sorry?
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Supermikhail on February 19, 2010, 03:22:07 am
So, well answered, Jackrabbit, but, imagine that I am a random unbiased reader. And I am confused after reading your story. Or even dissatisfied. You have clarified it for me, and I am happy, but you aren't going to explain it to every single one of your readers?
Maybe I'm dumb, but I got that One day thing only this morning (the morning on the next day). Maybe your target audience are people who like to ponder on what they've read for a while. But, as, I think, someone has already noted, there isn't so much space in your story as to deeply involve most readers. If you plan to develop on your story in your collection, and let the reader slowly find out what that house's backstory is, and what that hungry creature is, then it may turn out good, but otherwise it reminds me of simplistic thriller stories, which could be interesting only for kids around 10.

A finer point: I assume, the face is supposed to be the climax of the story. If so, it isn't given nearly enough description. You just repeat "a face". Maybe that's what a normal person would be able to write in his/her diary, but few people read real-life diaries for literary merits.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 19, 2010, 04:28:29 am
Really?

Damn, I keep coming across wrong. The face isn't the climax of the story, the escape is. It's all very vague, sure, but I thought that was more clear than it obviously actually is.

EDIT: Gah, I realized the problem.

Like I said in my recent post, I'm not going to make a collection of short stories. This was not a story I intend to try and sell at all. It was, actually, an assignment for English, and I figured I'd post it here since I quite like it. Hence the lack of swearing and the rather compressed nature. I only had 800 words with which to write this story. It'd be clearer should I have had more space to be clearer.
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Supermikhail on February 19, 2010, 05:04:50 am
Ok. I think I liked this story more than the one in the OP  :).
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Nevermind, I think the discussion about that one is already closed anyway.

Well, are you going to put here something finished some time?
Title: Re: Short Stories
Post by: Jackrabbit on February 19, 2010, 05:15:35 am
Probably.