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Title: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Eidalac on November 02, 2009, 05:41:07 am
So, what all with me being a socially impaired nerd, I figured I give the online darting thing a try.

Thing I've started to notice, however, is that i can't take it in any way seriously - in essence, when I try to send someone a message on one of those sites, it ends up reading like most of what I post here; rambling and a bit goofy.

So, I never get replied to.

Well, that's either because of that or I'm just that terrible to behold.  :P


Seems like IRL I'm just to shy, and online I'm just to oddball, to converse with new people.

It's just getting bothersome, I tell you.

Doesn't help any that most of my RL friends are of the opinion that "sex isn't that great and girls aren't worth the trouble", so I can't count on any social help from them.  Fine enough for them to think that, but I'd rather have the option to make up my own mind on the matter. -_-

I don' know, but I just gotta do something.  I'm starting to get stir crazy.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: DJ on November 02, 2009, 05:51:41 am
Just be persistent. Pretending to be someone you're not is a recipe for failure, so stay rambling and goofy. There are girls who go for that, even if they are few and far inbetween.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Cthulhu on November 02, 2009, 09:44:26 am
Get a hold of one of the mailing lists 419 scammers use and send everyone on it a letter.

Cast your net wide.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Sensei on November 03, 2009, 01:29:58 am
Offline is better- less chance of weird unexpected details cropping up.

But yeah, don't throw a big act, just be cool. Oh, and as a socially impaired nerd, if you can find girls into your particular interests, that's a bonus and an easier shot (if they're not heavily competed-for already).
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jimmy on November 03, 2009, 01:49:22 am
As a happily married man, I would recommend you choose offline dating. As for how to meet people, your best bet is to get involved in things outside your usual circles. Also, be approachable and make the first move. Doesn't have to be clubs or bars. My best friend met his wife when she was working at the front counter of the local movie theater.

Actually, I met my wife while I was at University. I noticed her in the library studying the same subject as me, we started talking, I offered to proof-read her assignments, she took me out to dinner as thanks, and the rest is history.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Muz on November 03, 2009, 02:55:39 am
If I was a girl, I'd go for someone rambling and goofy. More fun than the boring, serious ones. There's always someone who likes you for who you are, so don't bother pretending to be someone else. You'll miss that person who's looking for you, and get someone who's looking for someone who's not you.

Online dating works. I've dated some very attractive females who've I've met online. Met my current girlfriend of 2 years by flirting via sms.. turned out that she studied in the same uni and lived only a few miles from my place. I started flirting with all my offline ex's through chat/sms/IM, so I know it works.

Offline is better if you can do it. One huge advantage of online dating is that it puts aside shyness on both sides. My gf now would have been a little intimidated by me face-to-face, and I'm not very talkative offline, so I think the online factor helps a little in the vulnerable early stages.

Then again, I have a friend who swears that he'd never get another girlfriend from the Internet, because they're all so weird. But he uses Myspace to find them. And he goes for the very attractive ones, even if they're crazy, so that's a problem :P
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 03, 2009, 12:10:16 pm
Ah I am so glad this popped up. This links in well with my thread, no? So, now that the oppurtunity has arisen, How do you ask a girl out? :/
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Post by: redacted123 on November 03, 2009, 12:18:40 pm
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Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 03, 2009, 12:21:45 pm
Ah I am so glad this popped up. This links in well with my thread, no? So, now that the oppurtunity has arisen, How do you ask a girl out? :/
It depends on the girl, but I find "hey, do you want to go to dinner/the cinema/the pizza place/etc with me?" Do it after you've had a short conversation, just to gauge how interested they are.


http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=43742.0
You haven't read my thread have you?
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Post by: redacted123 on November 03, 2009, 12:29:54 pm
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Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 03, 2009, 12:37:04 pm
Yeah, I dont drive yet. And I live in a Village so Logistics is a major problem with you plan
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Vector on November 03, 2009, 01:39:19 pm
... You could make her dinner or just go on a walk.
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Post by: redacted123 on November 03, 2009, 01:48:47 pm
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Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Muz on November 04, 2009, 02:31:56 am
How do you ask a girl out? :/

This is one of those problems that you spend years pondering as a teenager. But the solution is simple:
Just ask her out.

It's not hard. Shy? She is too. If both of you are shy, someone has to make the move.
Afraid of rejection? The worst she can do (if you ask politely) is say no. It doesn't mean you can't try again later. It doesn't mean you're no longer friends. She won't think you're a freak just because you find her attractive.
Just don't rush things. Some girls like it slow, some want you to get straight to the point. It takes experience to figure out what's right, and the only way to get experience is to do it.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Serefan on November 04, 2009, 09:50:40 am
And like the last guy said, some girls like it one way, some girls like it another. So a major hint is: Know your enemy! Erm.. Girl!

If she's somewhat alternative, plays tough girl, then she won't like you if you are *too* polite, *too* friendly, etc. You have to be a bit of a daredevil with your words, and if you happen to say something that she's genuinely offended by, make sure you don't drop your act and don't know what to say next.

If she's a shy type, take it slow, use kind words, don't say anything too offensive but don't do the opposite neither because shy types have to learn to be more open themselves,...

You could go on and on about types of character and what to do with them, but it all comes down to observing the girl and using your intuition.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 04, 2009, 12:02:19 pm
She is Pretty confident about her self, but she is as dumb as a brick
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Post by: redacted123 on November 04, 2009, 12:36:39 pm
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Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 04, 2009, 01:07:01 pm
What? I don't know how to explain it. Something just happens
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Cthulhu on November 04, 2009, 02:19:01 pm
If she's dumb, don't go out with her.  I would rather die alone than marry a stupid.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Kagus on November 04, 2009, 02:50:38 pm
I'd rather just build one.  But, it's also quite difficult for a person to be even dumber than love, so it's not impossible for there to be a connection.

My opinion?  It's just an infatuation.  Feels like love, but stops as fast as it starts and only serves to lead you into all sorts of really nasty pits (there is ABSOLUTELY NO INNUENDO in that sentence).

Just wait it out for a while.  Try and think about other things.  Eventually, the main rush will be over and you'll feel like a twit, but it's a heck of a lot better than some of the alternatives.  Just talk with her.  Get to know her.  Nothing serious.


Just remember something...  If a person can't be your friend, they can't be your soulmate.  Simple as that.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Hoborobo234 on November 04, 2009, 05:19:39 pm
I like dumb, dunno. They say opposites attract, but she is nice and friendly person to be around
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Lord Dakoth on November 04, 2009, 06:15:34 pm
If she's dumb, don't go out with her.  I would rather die alone than marry a stupid.

Whoa, whoa, SLOWWWW DOWWWWWWN.

Dating DOES NOT EQUAL Marriage. Especially not if you're a freshman in highschool.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Cthulhu on November 04, 2009, 09:38:37 pm
My statement was independent of my advice.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Siquo on November 05, 2009, 05:50:33 am
Intelligence is overrated.

Anyhow, in my personal experience, online dating works, both for short-term flings and long term having-babies-relationships.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Cheeetar on November 05, 2009, 08:16:07 am
Intelligence is overrated.

DOES NOT LIKE
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Siquo on November 05, 2009, 08:57:57 am
Wisdom is where it's at, my young padawan.

Really, when offered the mutually exclusive choice, I'd rather have someone who knows little, but knows that she knows little, than someone who knows a lot, but doesn't know that her knowledge is limited.

Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: BuriBuriZaemon on November 06, 2009, 04:21:50 am
To me, intelligence is vital. The more intelligent the girl, the more the things you could talk with her, the more likely she will understand your jokes, and the more likely she will have a good career to help boost your income if you do get married.

In fact, intelligent girls are sexually attractive to me.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: IndonesiaWarMinister on November 06, 2009, 04:57:13 am
In fact, intelligent girls are sexually attractive to me.

NOT INTERESTED IN YOUR FETISHES

Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Muz on November 06, 2009, 11:40:42 am
Meh, just do it. You can make an ugly girl pretty. Same thing goes for making dumb girls smart. Or turning a non-gamer girl into a gamer girl. If both of yous not compatible, just break up :P

If you're not compatible BEFORE you start dating, then I'd suggest you stay away. If her being dumb turns you on, well, yeah.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Vester on November 08, 2009, 03:06:37 am
If I was a girl, I'd go for someone rambling and goofy. More fun than the boring, serious ones.

I prefer stable guys myself. Goofy dudes are good as buddies, and that's it. But that's just me. Like Muz says, there is someone who'll like you for you, unless you're utterly, irredeemably insane.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: eerr on November 08, 2009, 04:01:51 am
If I was a girl, I'd go for someone rambling and goofy. More fun than the boring, serious ones.

I prefer stable guys myself. Goofy dudes are good as buddies, and that's it. But that's just me. Like Muz says, there is someone who'll like you for you, unless you're utterly, irredeemably insane.
Mmmmm, stable?
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Vester on November 08, 2009, 04:05:39 am
... not unstable?

I guess, yeah, boring and serious. Predictable.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 08, 2009, 01:39:03 pm
"goofy" often = immature and unreliable

Also do yourself a favor and never, ever listen to a guy saying "well if I was a girl I would like a guy who does x and y"

because he's not a girl and that makes all the difference, plus he's probably just projecting himself into imaginary girls' desires
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Vester on November 09, 2009, 04:14:45 am
Or worse, it comes off as

"Well, if I were a girl, I would like a guy who has QUALITIES SIMILAR TO MYSELF" :P

Seriously. Dating a guy because he's goofy and rambling doesn't sound like a good foundation for a relationship to me.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 09, 2009, 07:32:02 am
Or worse, it comes off as

"Well, if I were a girl, I would like a guy who has QUALITIES SIMILAR TO MYSELF" :P

Basically

Quote

Seriously. Dating a guy because he's goofy and rambling doesn't sound like a good foundation for a relationship to me.
Ya also, since when is a guy either "goofy and rambling" or "serious and boring"

Nice false dichotomy guys too bad there's other options such as "mature and has it together"
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Kagus on November 09, 2009, 03:30:32 pm
Nice false dichotomy guys too bad there's other options such as "mature and has it together"

What, you mean like...  you?
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 09, 2009, 05:58:08 pm
Nice false dichotomy guys too bad there's other options such as "mature and has it together"

What, you mean like...  you?

Well I'd hardly be cocky, but I would go so far as to say I'm more mature than a guy whose selling point to a girl is that he's "rambling and goofy"
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: AtomicPaperclip on November 09, 2009, 10:13:55 pm
What works for me is to just ACT confident, and ACT like you're not as interested as she is.

You don't actually have to be confident, and you can love her to death.

Applies to online and offline I guess.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 09, 2009, 10:36:28 pm
having a nutsack big enough to bring your groceries home goes a long way

although there are some things it won't help you overcome
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Footkerchief on November 12, 2009, 03:40:36 am
Jude speaks the truth.  My genitalia have been described as a bag of red potatoes garnished with a jumbo cucumber and each week I literally have sex with 3+ women labeled by an independent panel of bros as "Wicked Hot."
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Kagus on November 12, 2009, 04:08:59 am
I literally have sex with 3+ women

I never knew NPC's could have enchantment levels.

And I've seen a man who uses his testicles as a bean bag chair.  I don't believe he gets much luck with the ladies.


But then again, I've got a decidedly average set of genitalia, so I'm probably just jealous of having a trouser snake that takes a swim every time I sit on the loo.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Rilder on November 12, 2009, 04:15:42 am
My genitalia are slightly below average honestly.

and holy fuck am I a grower...  :P
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Kagus on November 12, 2009, 04:20:24 am
The only thing that makes me feel worse than seeing this thread degenerate from personalities to penises is knowing that I contributed to it.

I blame the AM.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Footkerchief on November 12, 2009, 04:24:35 am
I never knew NPC's could have enchantment levels.

Um, a real bro knows that women are just items.  I guess you have small testicles.

(on a serious note, don't turn this into earnest discussion of one's genitalia, please)
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Rilder on November 12, 2009, 04:26:47 am
Oh yeah, and I met my GF online, when we were like 14 in a game, 5 years later we kinda fell for each other...  8)
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 12, 2009, 07:30:27 pm
You guys completely missed the point, the huge nutsack was metaphorical
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Footkerchief on November 12, 2009, 08:10:49 pm
It's a metaphor that perpetuates gender norms of the most ridiculous kind.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: WorkerDrone on November 12, 2009, 10:48:33 pm
Oh hey what's going on here--

NEVERMIND, DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE UH...'COMPARING SIZES'.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: sonerohi on November 12, 2009, 11:04:09 pm
My cojones have been known to bring down low-flying aircraft. Don't ask me how, I'm busy popping my collar with my bros.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Lord Dakoth on November 12, 2009, 11:49:25 pm
each week I literally have sex with 3+ women labeled by an independent panel of bros as "Wicked Hot."
I never knew NPCs could have enchantment levels.

Siggy. ;D
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 13, 2009, 06:28:55 pm
It's a metaphor that perpetuates gender norms of the most ridiculous kind.

Oh well I guess I'll stop using the phrase balls to mean courage then since it sets women back about 50 years every time I say it
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Little on November 13, 2009, 07:11:54 pm
I come in to have a nice conversatin about relationships and how I met my boyfriend.

I'm greeted by penis talk. Goddamnit.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Gunner-Chan on November 13, 2009, 10:28:42 pm
Doesn't mean you can't... Hell Ill start. I actually Met Milly in catholic school. I stuck around her at first because she was still learning English, and didn't know anyone. It whent from there. X3
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Eidalac on November 14, 2009, 11:12:15 am
Hu.

I forgot I started this.


Anyway, to back up a bit, being rambling and/or goofy does not preclude being mature or "having it together".
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Jude on November 15, 2009, 04:23:22 am
Tell that to the next girl you try to impress with your goofiness and ramblingness
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Footkerchief on November 15, 2009, 04:42:59 am
Being goofy because it's your personality and being goofy to impress someone are pretty different things.  I mean, being against goofiness as a whole would be about the most uptight thing I've ever heard, so I hope you don't mean that.  What the heck city are you in, Jude?  I need to make a mental note not to be single there.
Title: Re: Online Dating (and offline as well, I guess)
Post by: Eidalac on November 15, 2009, 05:26:11 am
Tell that to the next girl you try to impress with your goofiness and ramblingness

Eh?

It takes weeks IRL for me to feel comfortable enough around a person to be that way, so that's a non issue anyway.

Plus, the goofiest guys I know are also the 3 that get action constantly.  All of this has far more to do with confidence than anything else.  They are very laid back because they have no social fears at all, which gives them license to be utterly weird and just not care.