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Title: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 09, 2009, 01:47:49 am
Feel free to ignore all but the playerlist beneath. Mr.Person is comod.

I had an idea for a bastard1 mod2 game, closed setup, naturally. I might be wanting a [censored], as well as some players3. I think 7-9 would be all right [redacted].

Bold players have sent confirmation PMs, and should have received their role6 PMs.

1Bastardry subjective
2Mr. Person: Comod
3You poor bastards1
4Distrust this footnote. Game is normal5 mafia game.
5Normal5 may not be within acceptable truthvalues
6Do not assume anything about the number of roles.


Fairly Generic Rules
PMs are not allowed between players unless your role PM states that it is. If they are, CC moderator (me, CobaltKobold).
As usual, no editing posts.

Deadlines, sort of:if not everyone has posted, then a day cannot end, but the day ends when that and [redacted], regardless of time.
Don't lurk to extend the day, please. If more time is desired, you may object, but this may not be granted if single.

(Posts after the trigger event are fine, as it won't be apparent initially/mod may get to it a bit slow)

 If someone has a majority, they are lynched. Nolynch votes are allowed. Votes in red please. Ties result in nolynch, unless it is a tie with nolynch (3 for Hatshepsut and 3 for nolynch mean Hatshepsut is lynched)
Unvotes are not strictly required, but are suggested. Please do not indicate changing your vote to UristMcScummy in a confusing manner such as "Unvote, UristMcScummy".

Do not ask questions about the title until game begins. Then you may discuss.
No quoting role PM unless it says.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Vector on November 09, 2009, 01:58:16 am
In.

I promise I'll be active in this one--it's fairly guaranteed, given the small size and my past record.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Mr.Person on November 09, 2009, 02:09:22 am
I'll co-mod, since I otherwise wouldn't join.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Pandarsenic on November 09, 2009, 04:17:24 am
I'm in.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Boksi on November 09, 2009, 07:00:06 pm
This looks interesting. I do believe I'll join.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Org on November 09, 2009, 07:37:19 pm
In
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: Neruz on November 09, 2009, 07:39:30 pm
This looks interesting, and since my bastard mod game doesn't look like it's going anywhere...
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 16, 2009, 07:38:04 pm
Rules approaching hashed-out-ness. Waiting for players.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game
Post by: RedWarrior0 on November 16, 2009, 07:57:58 pm
Bastard Mods are always fun to join.
Title: Re: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (6/9)
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 17, 2009, 06:21:10 pm
Three more should make for a good game. Six won't work so well.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (6/9)
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 20, 2009, 07:00:44 pm
Finalized title (don't ask...yet) Still need just a few more. Six is *figures* infeasible. :-\

Enjoy here a Classic Mafia Game of illegitimate parentage!
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (6/9)
Post by: Errol on November 21, 2009, 01:31:47 pm
I've got nothing to lose anyways, so sign me up.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (7/9)
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on November 21, 2009, 05:41:32 pm
I suppose I'll join.
Sounds interesting, though I don't really know where you're going with the Shakespeare quote.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (8/9)!
Post by: CobaltKobold on November 21, 2009, 05:44:51 pm
I suppose I'll join.
Sounds interesting, though I don't really know where you're going with the Shakespeare quote.
Finalized title (don't ask...yet)
:shh:
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (8/9 NINTH PLAYER NEEDED)!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 03, 2009, 07:49:08 pm
This will be able to run when there is a ninth player.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (8/9 NINTH PLAYER NEEDED)!
Post by: Zai on December 03, 2009, 08:48:26 pm
Fine, you. I'll join.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 03, 2009, 10:13:57 pm
Confirmation PMs sent, awaiting replies.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 03, 2009, 10:18:34 pm
Confirmation reply sent, awaiting PM.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 03, 2009, 11:11:52 pm
Firstpost updated.
Initiating mafia refresh daemon[.........] Done!
No, it's not doom themed, but I like the reference.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 03, 2009, 11:59:41 pm
You are an IMP!

<_<
>_>
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) HERE THERE BE HINTS
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 12:17:42 am
I put a few lynch rules up in the first post. I'll put in a few more, as well as some suggestions s to what kind of bastardry it's not:
Roles may be more than what's first apparent.
There are several roles.
Roles may be impermanent.
Information distribution is not necessarily based on alignment.

No, lynching Mr. Person or myself is not the answer. Nor Mr. Pownsterson.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 02:31:28 am
Those confirmation pm replies are supposed to go to me, not Mr.Person. In case you have made this mistake, PM me for your role.
When all PMs are sent out, the game may begin.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 03:51:14 pm
Only Zai has not replied to confirmation PM.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Day 1
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 06:59:52 pm
Italics are flavor and do not have game effects.
 
Ill Met By Moonlight
The Dark Ages. These times were considered a fall from the height of the Roman Empire. A time of ignorance, and decay.

A collection of villages around a wood have been noticing that people were turning up missing. Initially, the peasants barred their doors, and did not go abroad at night, fearing hostile spirits. Now, however, a body has been found, clothes rent and ragged, flesh torn by what cannot be knife wounds, and what brave villagers remain have decided to find the cause.

The light of dawn peeks over the mountains, illuminating the crossroads, striking a cairn of stones covers the body of Danrom Pownsterson, the poor soul you discovered mauled, by what you dare not say. The gibbet that the villages share has new rope, for to deal with what you may find. An uneasy silence hangs as you gather around to debate how to deal with this threat, and words remain unsaid...


Spoiler: "Living players(9/9)" (click to show/hide)

It is now day 1. The deadline is classified. There are hidden elements as well as the hidden evil.

edit: some tags' nesting order matters.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 04, 2009, 07:15:04 pm
Alas, poor Danrom.

How could you do such a thing, RedWarrior0!?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 07:46:22 pm
Well, I could be a vig who thought he was acting scummy. On the other hand, it could be Vector, who will hopefully share his thoughts on the hidden elements and, in particular, the reason that "effects" is italicized.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 07:55:34 pm
Only Zai has not replied to confirmation PM.

I'm sorry, I do these things called "sleeping" and "work".

So what's with the title?

And a guess at (some?) bastardry: we're all vanilla townies (except perhaps the mafia, who may or may not know as of this moment that they are scum (because their role may change later on to be scum)) at this point, somewhat similar to the first DOGtM Mafia. Any nay-sayers?

Wait. Perhaps this trick is even reused?

I am Jackie Chan.

[QUESTION FOR THE MOD(s):] Are PMs from individual players to a mod allowed?

[PPE:] RW0's a vig. Subtle admittance, I see (through the use of "I could be"). So never mind about my "we're all vanilla townies right now" idea, I guess.
Yes, that is mostly joking.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight: Bastard(perhaps) Mod Game (9/9) Setting up.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 08:05:12 pm
[QUESTION FOR THE MOD(s):] Are PMs from individual players to a mod allowed?
Yes. It's unlikely to net you much in terms of useful information, though.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 08:07:53 pm
[QUESTION FOR THE MOD(s):] Are PMs from individual players to a mod allowed?
Yes. It's unlikely to net you much in terms of useful information, though.

I'm not really looking for information. Except perhaps in regard to bastardry.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 08:12:47 pm
Okay. Neither way worked. Along with the "I am Jackie Chan" in the post, I PM'd CK saying the same thing, and all I got informed of was that I am not Jackie Chan. =(

Perhaps I should have used a more regular role to test with.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 04, 2009, 08:14:35 pm
Well, I could be a vig who thought he was acting scummy. On the other hand, it could be Vector, who will hopefully share his thoughts on the hidden elements and, in particular, the reason that "effects" is italicized.

Alrighty.

So, I'm going to spew a bunch of ideas as to what might be going on here, but I don't really have any definitive suspicions yet.

First, I know that our mod delights in wordplay/rhyme, so I'm wondering if there might be some sort of permutation-based secondary meaning to our role-names.

Second, the title is a quotation from A Midsummer's Night Dream, when the Queen and King of the Fairies (i.e. Titania and Oberon) meet each other.  I'm vaguely wondering if there's some sort of even group splitting, especially because I looked at the front page at one point and only half of the players were bolded (don't remember which ones, sorry).

Third, I think this was made before KWN: DE ran, so the "all vanilla townies idea as derivative of that game" thing does not exactly fly.

Fourth, we have Lord of the Rings references.  Uh... I have no idea what's up with that, but I figured I'd point it out.  At this point, I'm guessing more "this is probably a fairly standard game, and the mod just happens to like books."

Fifth, my guess is that the "effects" thing means one of two things.
  a. Italics associated with flavor, effects associated with flavor, the word "effects" gets italicized
  b. The mod is trying to tell us that one sort of effect will be avoided, while another will come up.

My money is on a.  I think we're sitting around with a largely tame game that has lots of tags to trip us up, so unless something funky happens I'm just going to scumhunt.


Errol, haven't seen you around here much.  Of the players currently in this game, who would you prefer most and least as scumbuddies, and why?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 08:21:53 pm
Which LotR reference? I saw none.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 04, 2009, 08:25:22 pm
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 08:27:31 pm
Quote
First, I know that our mod delights in wordplay/rhyme, so I'm wondering if there might be some sort of permutation-based secondary meaning to our role-names.

Third, I think this was made before KWN: DE ran, so the "all vanilla townies idea as derivative of that game" thing does not exactly fly.
Factually wrong.

Quote
Fourth, we have Lord of the Rings references.  Uh... I have no idea what's up with that, but I figured I'd point it out.  At this point, I'm guessing more "this is probably a fairly standard game, and the mod just happens to like books."

I'm vaguely wondering if there's some sort of even group splitting, especially because I looked at the front page at one point and only half of the players were bolded (don't remember which ones, sorry).
Quote
Bold players have sent confirmation PMs, and should have received their role6 PMs.
The LotR reference (Nine for mortal men, doomed to die (9/9)) is merely one of the silly names I put on the playerlist spoiler for number of signed-up players. ("One Brave Soul"- I don't remember the other seven.)

[QUESTION FOR THE MOD(s):] Are PMs from individual players to a mod allowed?
Yes. It's unlikely to net you much in terms of useful information, though.
One notable exception- if you have questions on your current role, I can answer those in PM. Maybe. (Questions regarding lynch mechanics may go in main thread, preferably in something like bold.)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 08:29:08 pm
Third, I think this was made before KWN: DE ran, so the "all vanilla townies idea as derivative of that game" thing does not exactly fly.

That's not what I said. Pay attention.

[PPE:] And you were wrong anyway.  ::)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 08:29:54 pm
There. Thanks. I forgot about that.

Another question:
If you had an assassin bot that you had to use within the first two hours or else you would lose, who would you kill?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 08:31:57 pm
Another question:
If you had an assassin bot that you had to use within the first two hours or else you would lose, who would you kill?

Is this just for Vector?

I would probably kill Org. For what should be obvious reasons by now if you've played a game with him.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 04, 2009, 08:35:24 pm
Quote
First, I know that our mod delights in wordplay/rhyme, so I'm wondering if there might be some sort of permutation-based secondary meaning to our role-names.

Ah, I see that you don't delight in wordplay, rhyme, and puzzles at all!  No, and Darnom Pownsterson TOTALLY ISN'T a carefully chosen permutation of RANDOM TOWNSPERSON, right?


Another question:
If you had an assassin bot that you had to use within the first two hours or else you would lose, who would you kill?

Depends on if the first two hours had seemed to turn up scum.  If I'd found someone acting scummy by then, I'd off them.  If not, then probably Pandarsenic--I can't read him at all.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 08:38:30 pm
I see that neither webadict nor Toony is in this. Pity.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 08:40:25 pm
Quote
First, I know that our mod delights in wordplay/rhyme, so I'm wondering if there might be some sort of permutation-based secondary meaning to our role-names.

Ah, I see that you don't delight in wordplay, rhyme, and puzzles at all!  No, and Darnom Pownsterson TOTALLY ISN'T a carefully chosen permutation of RANDOM TOWNSPERSON, right?
I was not denying that I like those things. -,,- And yes, spoonerised RANDOM TOWNSPERSON. He is unimportant for all that he gave his life to alert you to the presence of BAD STUFF. *watches intently*
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 04, 2009, 08:41:21 pm
I see that neither webadict nor Toony is in this. Pity.

Why do you need them? To do scumhunting for you, scum? RedWarrior0, I choose you to die.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 04, 2009, 08:43:54 pm
I see that neither webadict nor Toony is in this. Pity.

I can actually read ToonyMan reasonably well.  Were Webadict in this game... yes, he would be a stronger candidate for the assassin bot.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 08:50:44 pm
Nobody got the reference. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=43945.msg845986#msg845986)  :(
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 04, 2009, 08:56:09 pm
Nobody got the reference. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=43945.msg845986#msg845986)  :(

...

I did get the reference.  I just thought that you might actually be, you know, talking about the task at hand...

Rather than screwing around asking stupid questions because you don't want to look like you're vote-flopping, which is really what seems to be happening right now.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 08:58:49 pm
Whatever. Unvote Vector and time to employ operation Bastard Mod Truly Random Vote.

Mr. Pownsterson, I choose you!
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 09:01:26 pm
Votecount
Redwarrior0[2]: Pandarsenic, Zai
Errol[1]: Vector
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 09:03:20 pm
I mean, voting for Random Townsperson Danrom Townsperson during RVS is clever...

He's kinda dead and buried though. No point lynching him.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 04, 2009, 09:04:25 pm
Hey.

Mod:Daykill Zai
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 04, 2009, 09:05:13 pm
Unvote

That didn't work.

Mr. Pownsterson was a friend of mine. He often came over for lunch. He was acting wierd, but I never killed him.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 04, 2009, 09:11:22 pm
Hey.
Mod:Daykill Zai
Zai is alive and well, and continues to be.

Also, the deadline is unlikely to fall on a weekend. That doesn't mean stop talking though.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Neruz on December 04, 2009, 09:32:22 pm
Boksi has a funny name; i demand that he elaborate.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 04, 2009, 10:09:26 pm
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?

Great. Why must all peasant villages be conveniently located near mystical woods?

Regardless, I see this less of a bastard mod and more of an exaggerated informed minority vs. uninformed majority. As town, we're probably blind to most of the game mechanics.

Here's an idea: don't experiment.

I seriously doubt that this is a generic mountainous setting (or at least I hope it isn't).

I'm hoping it's something like Don't Outguess the Mod (the first); at the very least it would make things easier for town.

Why the no experimenting? Because it seems likely that our adversar(ies)y will likely have to trick us, somehow. At the very least, we need to be wary of anyone suggesting we do anything that isn't hunting scum.

Now, Pandarsenic. Assuming we're dealing with 1 scum (with knowledge of game mechanics) vs. 8 town (without knowledge of game mechanics), what do you suppose the scum will do first? How do you suspect he'll act?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 05, 2009, 12:02:44 am
Hey.

Mod:Daykill Zai


Thank you for posting but not contributing anything, as per usual for you. You're just proving my point~
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 05, 2009, 01:33:05 am
Honestly?

I think the scum is going to play cautious. My spectacular failure in Webby's DOtM1, where everyone EXCEPT me won because I got greedy, is a pretty good example of what can happen if you get too bombastic.

So, I think the Scum is going to feel around, try to determine what other people do and do not know, and above all, they're not going to make my famous mistake of alerting everyone to their knowledge.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 05, 2009, 04:20:03 am
If I were scum, I'd blah blah blah...

But you aren't. Right?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 05, 2009, 04:27:48 am
If I were scum, I'd blah blah blah...

But you aren't. Right?

Greetings, scumbucket.

Answer questions.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 05, 2009, 04:38:00 am
Errol, what are you even saying?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Neruz on December 05, 2009, 04:40:54 am
He is declaring his intent to have his way with us.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 05, 2009, 05:53:41 am
I'm saying that I should skimread a little less. But, hypothetical thingies are most certainly something that I'd avoid on Day 1.

Scumbuddies? I don't even know half of the players. But I know it most certainly wouldn't be Org. For being Org.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 05, 2009, 01:51:14 pm
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?
You're no fey scholars, but those marks seem to have a much more animal character- you'd guess teeth..

Quote
Great. Why must all peasant villages be conveniently located near mystical woods?
The village has prospered trading in mystical fruits and other mystical goodies. Besides, where are the guides through mystic woods going to live, without villages?

Quote
Here's an idea: don't experiment.
There is more treasure hunt than minefield.
Quote
Here's an idea: don't experiment.

I seriously doubt that this is a generic mountainous setting (or at least I hope it isn't).

I'm hoping it's something like Don't Outguess the Mod (the first); at the very least it would make things easier for town.
Think carefully on these statements.

Not all players are created equal, but you may wish to look at the bastardhints.

Tally in the Dust
RedWarrior0[2]-Pandarsenic, Zai
Pandarsenic[1]-Apostolic Nihilist
Boksi[1]-Neruz
Errol[1]-Vector
Vector
Org
Neruz
Zai
Apostolic Nihilist
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 05, 2009, 02:02:00 pm
Werewolves.

Vector gets his shotgun.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 05, 2009, 02:18:49 pm
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?
You're no fey scholars, but those marks seem to have a much more animal character- you'd guess teeth..

UNICORNS?!
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 05, 2009, 02:19:23 pm
Werewolves.

Vector gets his shotgun.
An eerie howl rises over the forest. . .all the more out of place for that the sun is climbing high in the sky.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 05, 2009, 02:20:06 pm
Error: Shotgun not found.
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?
You're no fey scholars, but those marks seem to have a much more animal character- you'd guess teeth..

UNICORNS?!
Carnivore teeth. ::)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 05, 2009, 02:20:44 pm
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?
You're no fey scholars, but those marks seem to have a much more animal character- you'd guess teeth..

UNICORNS?!
Carnivore teeth. ::)

'Twas a joke, me finely feathered friend.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Boksi on December 05, 2009, 03:03:11 pm
Elves are fairies, so it could be the carnivorous DF elves we all know and love.

Or doppelgangers. I'm not to knowledgeable about those, having never played with them, but I think it's possible.

Just a thought.

But I do think the italics are just for flavor.

Anyway, regarding my name, it is a name derived from the Icelandic word "bók", meaning "book", chosen because I am quite a bit of a bookworm, although now that I have the internet I do a lot of reading there instead of with a book. The "-si" suffix is there to make it grammatically masculine, since Bók is a grammatically feminine word.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Neruz on December 05, 2009, 03:23:41 pm
Error: Shotgun not found.
...are we fighting fairies?
Vicious, murderous fairies?
You're no fey scholars, but those marks seem to have a much more animal character- you'd guess teeth..

UNICORNS?!
Carnivore teeth. ::)

PANDAS!

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Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 05, 2009, 03:31:18 pm
Well, I'm off to check my house for cyanide.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 05, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
Does that mean the scum can recruit? When would this action take place, if they could recruit?

Do they start with one or more?

ARGHHH
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 05, 2009, 08:55:05 pm
Well, I'm off to check my house for cyanide.
No. Not cyanide. Arsenic. Give the panda arsenic.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 05, 2009, 09:11:38 pm
Cute.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 07, 2009, 02:09:29 am
Bump
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 07, 2009, 02:21:16 am
What's the deadline? :I
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 07, 2009, 11:02:36 am
Unvote.
I don't think there's a deadline. The requirement for day end is [redacted], along with everyone saying something.

If we take the words of the host to be true, then 'experimentation' may be good, but be wary of potential traps. I think we should also limit our experiments to ourselves or willing particpants; "Apostolic Nihilist takes out a machete and hacks his way through everyone!" is not exactly something we want to test out.

So, in lieu of this new information:
Apostolic Nihilist sighs, glancing up. He checks the position of the sun in the sky, to eschew the number of hours left before nightfall.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 07, 2009, 11:17:49 am
Hmm. I wonder if I should policylynch on italics. Oh well.

Neruz, please do something interesting.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 06:10:09 pm
There is no "deadline" but there are no hammers- plurality is sufficient to lynch when day does end.

Apostolic assesses it to be evening. Wasn't it just noon? He blinks.

Tally in the Dust
RedWarrior0[2]-Pandarsenic, Zai
Neruz[1]-Errol
Boksi[1]-Neruz
Errol[1]-Vector
Vector
Org
Pandarsenic
Zai
Apostolic Nihilist
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 07, 2009, 06:32:09 pm
I suggest we all be very careful using italics from now on.

Vector. Did you notice an effect from your use of italics?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 07, 2009, 06:38:37 pm
I notice that all those with foul intention in regards to the town/village have died.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 06:48:00 pm
I notice that all those with foul intention in regards to the town/village have died.
An eerie howl rises over the forest. Again.

But you're at the crossroads with the gallows because you want to bring these deaths about. Wishful thinking and hiding inside have gotten you nowhere yet.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Boksi on December 07, 2009, 06:57:05 pm
I wonder where we can get our hands on some silver. And who's the blacksmith, anyway? Gotta have a blacksmith if it's a village. How else would we get new tools and repair old ones? Magic? Haha, yeah right.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 07:12:58 pm
Blacksmith was gone early for that reason- though a silversmith is not exactly a blacksmith.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 07, 2009, 07:33:05 pm
I suggest we all be very careful using italics from now on.

Vector. Did you notice an effect from your use of italics?

I noticed that CK says I don't have a shotgun >_>

So mostly, there's apparently a fairly strict limitation on what we're allowed to do in the game.

I feel vaguely like I'm being railroaded >_>
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 08:02:39 pm
Italics clarification: I merely point out that your actions don't make sense in the time period. This is not a game effect.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 07, 2009, 08:03:33 pm
I do not believe in the power of Italics
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 07, 2009, 08:12:49 pm
Apostolic Nihilist knelt before each remaining villager in turn, examining them closely.

His seemingly-prescient images had greatly perturbed him. They fought creatures of pure evil, consumed with bloodlust... perhaps disclosing their secret was not wise.

Little was spoken, save the occasional whisper. The silence continued, until...

"We're dealing with a threat to our lands, our people. A threat the likes of which we've never before seen!" he at last proclaimed.
"I saw them in visions, werewolves, tearing our friends and family apart." He grasped for a nearby twig, gripping it tightly to accentuate his words. "Such a horrendous fate cannot befall us; it must not. For the sake of Pownsterson, we must find the vile group of half-men, half-beasts responsible! They are led by an alpha werewolf, but that is all I have ascertained as of yet."

With those words spoken, Apostolic stood once again. It was as if a burden had been lifted; his acquisition shared with all.


Right, so my last use of italics had an interesting effect -- it was likely purely flavor-related, but interesting nonetheless. I'm going to try and replicate that.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Neruz on December 07, 2009, 08:13:55 pm
Neruz, please do something interesting.

Sure; but define 'interesting'.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 08:30:55 pm
Apostolic Nihilist knelt before each remaining villager in turn, examining them closely.

His seemingly-prescient images had greatly perturbed him. They fought creatures of pure evil, consumed with bloodlust... perhaps disclosing their secret was not wise.

Little was spoken, save the occasional whisper. The silence continued, until...

"We're dealing with a threat to our lands, our people. A threat the likes of which we've never before seen!" he at last proclaimed.
"I saw them in visions, werewolves, tearing our friends and family apart." He grasped for a nearby twig, gripping it tightly to accentuate his words. "Such a horrendous fate cannot befall us; it must not. For the sake of Pownsterson, we must find the vile group of half-men, half-beasts responsible! They are led by an alpha werewolf, but that is all I have ascertained as of yet."

With those words spoken, Apostolic stood once again. It was as if a burden had been lifted; his acquisition shared with all.


Right, so my last use of italics had an interesting effect -- it was likely purely flavor-related, but interesting nonetheless. I'm going to try and replicate that.
A baying of wolves rises over the forest for a third time.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 07, 2009, 08:34:58 pm
HOWEVER THE POWER OF TEH BOLD INCREASES ME TENTHOUSAND MILLION FOLD
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 07, 2009, 09:23:12 pm
AN let a little info loose there.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 07, 2009, 09:34:03 pm
AN let a little info loose there.
Well, apparently I saw a vision of an alpha werewolf when I "checked the position of the sun". The second time I tried using italics, nothing happened... so I'm guessing it's either once-per-day or completely random.

If we don't find a better target, I want to lynch Org.
Seriously.
START CONTRIBUTING.

Also, Boksi. Care to tell us why your first usage of flavour text was an attempt to... loot(?!) our humble village? Taking the, 'hidden treasure' a bit literally?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 07, 2009, 09:58:11 pm
Thats not fair. Other people arent really contributing.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 07, 2009, 10:04:02 pm
Well, Neruz is the only other person who hasn't contributed anything useful.

But seriously, tell me why you don't "believe in the power of italics"?
...especially since they have real effects.
Which I've seen, and I subtly claimed such before you posted.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 07, 2009, 10:20:09 pm
The bold statement by Org does not, in fact, change his power. ::)

Votes
RedWarrior0[2]-Pandarsenic, Zai
Apostolic Nihilist[1]RedWarrior0
Org[1]Apostolic Nihilist
Boksi[1]-Neruz
Neruz[1]Errol
Errol[1]Vector
Vector
Pandarsenic
Zai
Bring up any errors.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 07, 2009, 10:54:40 pm
Thats not fair. Other people arent really contributing.

That's like an obviously obese person that likes to make excuses saying, "That's not fair! Other people eat food too!" when someone tells them they should lessen the amount of food they eat.

Thinly veiled analogy is thinly veiled.

RW0, what was that information AN let loose?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 08, 2009, 02:39:41 am
Neruz, with interesting I mean anything that would give us more hints. Perhaps even flavortext. Unvote.

Zai, why did you jump on a bandwagon?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 02:41:17 am
Hmm. I wonder if I should policylynch on italics. Oh well.

Neruz, please do something interesting.

Neruz, with interesting I mean anything that would give us more hints. Perhaps even flavortext. Unvote.

Zai, why did you jump on a bandwagon?

Scumbucket.  You're looking for excuses to get random people lynched and vote-flopping.  Go die in the river.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Neruz on December 08, 2009, 05:35:08 am
I'll be blunt Errol; at the moment this game has me at a loss.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Boksi on December 08, 2009, 12:04:20 pm
Well AN, my logic was simple: Silver is super-effective against werewolves. Therefore, get as much silver as possible and try to make some weapons if we can. Seems like we can't, unfortunately, but oh well. It was worth a try. It's not my fault the GM is railroading us.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 08, 2009, 01:47:21 pm
Hmm. I wonder if I should policylynch on italics. Oh well.

Neruz, please do something interesting.

Neruz, with interesting I mean anything that would give us more hints. Perhaps even flavortext. Unvote.

Zai, why did you jump on a bandwagon?

Scumbucket.  You're looking for excuses to get random people lynched and vote-flopping.  Go die in the river.

I'm at a loss just like you. I don't know what's going on, anything might happen, and I have no good feeling about the italics in my role pm. I voted Neruz as a randomvote, and Zai because it appears he bandwagons. Which might be skewed perspective on my part.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 02:07:11 pm
I'm at a loss just like you. I don't know what's going on, anything might happen, and I have no good feeling about the italics in my role pm. I voted Neruz as a randomvote, and Zai because it appears he bandwagons. Which might be skewed perspective on my part.

I never said I was at a loss, so stop with the buddying and start with the scum-hunting.  I will also note here that I didn't ask why you voted anyone... so now you're overreacting.

Yer scum, doodabuddy.  Scum enough to fill a bucket or five.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 02:41:13 pm
Errol: I reread your statement and mine, and as such I retract the charge of overreaction.  I will submit here, however, that you still look like scum to me, and I would like to know why you believe that policy-lynching italics thanks to odd italics appearing in your role PM is a good idea.


Experimentation time.

Vector fetches his ironwood club from beneath the bar, holding his back as he bends.  His sallow face is pockmarked and lined.  He is young but he moves like an old man, clinging to furniture.  He has a palsy in his hands and the corner of his narrow mouth, though he can still serve up ale and mead all right.  There's a blessing and an irony in it, and he doesn't question his luck.  He needs every boon he can curry.

"Wench," he says to the girl he hired two moons ago.  She sleeps soundly by the fire, secure in her youth, apple-cheeked and pleasantly plump.  "Thou.  Chit!  Zounds, wilt thou sleep all day?  Thou art worth not even a ha'penny!"

"My name is Lettie, as you know," she says, eyes still half-closed by sleep.  "What is it, Aureliusz?"

Her pronunciation is poor, and he winces.

"Today thou run... runnest? about town until day's end.  Tell any wandering people thou might see that wolves run about, and that the beds here are clean and safe with few louses."

"Wolves?" she says.  "I dreamed of some sort of large gray animal, whose steps shook the earth... it had a very long nose, like a beast from the land of faerie.  Would it not be amusing to see such a creature?"

"Yes, yes, amusing as pox," he says.  "Now get out."

"As you wish," she says, unfolding herself.  She unbars the heavy door and sashays out, thick brown curls bouncing.

"Dlaczego tak przeklina?" Vector mutters.  He misses his old country, its snows, the people, their graves.  No, it will do no good for him to remember.  He is here now, and there are beasts in the forest.  Something must be done.



1. Apologies to Dakarian
2. Apologies to anyone who actually speaks Polish for any horrors wrought by Google Translator
3. Apologies to those who were actually expecting slang from the correct time period--best I can get is 1600s or so without spending hours looking for proper insults.  Unfortunately, the best historical placement I could get was the late middle ages in general T_T  Oh, well...
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 03:21:15 pm
(Close enough. Words need not be in Middle English, or spelling would be horrifically inconsistent, and I'd say, "Rede þe boke". Periodicity is really more a matter of "no gunpowder no steam")

Aurelius Vector had the forethought to bring his club from the tavern to the meeting at the crossroads. This unenclosed space makes him a little nervous though- he likes to have a wall to back on. Hard to sneak up through walls. Safe as houses, walls.

(..."Why is cursing"?)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Errol on December 08, 2009, 03:40:32 pm
That has no relation. I just read KWM:Dakarian Edition.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 04:35:58 pm
Aureliusz Vector looks nervously over his shoulder.  He has seen starvation, plague, massacre.  Everyone he has ever loved lies buried far away in the chilly bowels of the earth.  He has little left to live for--just the weak flicker of hope that life will improve, that some day he will have good reason to continue.  He lives in that flicker twixt light and darkness, and has lost all attachment to or terror of either extreme.  He is a dead man who hopes and wonders and prays.

Despite all this, he fears the wolves.


Apologies to Joseph Conrad.  Probably also to Victor Hugo.


(Close enough. Words need not be in Middle English, or spelling would be horrifically inconsistent, and I'd say, "Rede þe boke". Periodicity is really more a matter of "no gunpowder no steam")

(..."Why is cursing"?)

"Why am I so cursed?"  Ahhh, what a whiner...

Yeah, Google Translator is special.  I figured I might as well give myself a first name this time around, especially since "Vektor" sounds like it could be vaguely Polish.  If you really, really tried to make it sound Polish.  And... come on... who can deny the attractiveness of the sound sz?  Or vaguely symbolic first names.  No, it was irresistible. 

I thank you for not making me use eð and þorn, because seriously... hurgh.  I think, though, that it would be "rede ðe boke," given that eð is the voiced form of the fricative?

[/linguistic snobbery]



Errol, I don't like the coincidence.  I also don't like the fact that you're bringing that up as an afterthought, as though a scumbuddy told you that you've got a good excuse.  Why not bring that up earlier, when I showed you the two posts together and how bad they looked?  Why mention your purported reasons for voting, rather than address my actual statement... and suddenly come up to answer it now?  No, I don't like it at all.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 04:38:18 pm
IM going to say this now. I dont like this game. Its getting too much like KWN Dak Edi
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 08, 2009, 04:40:44 pm
Hate to say this, but I need a replacement for this one. I'm in too many.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 04:47:06 pm
IM going to say this now. I dont like this game. Its getting too much like KWN Dak Edi

Look.

Either you can screw around and experiment with the flavortext, you can scumhunt, or you can do both.  As-is, you're doing absolutely nothing, which royally pisses me off.  You aren't scumhunting.  You aren't trying to break the game.  You're just sitting around complaining and saying that you're useful.

Give me one reason why we shouldn't lynch your face off.  You always look like scum; we don't lynch you because we've realized that it's largely stupid by now.  Why shouldn't we go back to treating you in a more logical fashion?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 04:51:30 pm
IM going to say this now. I dont like this game. Its getting too much like KWN Dak Edi

Look.

Either you can screw around and experiment with the flavortext, you can scumhunt, or you can do both.  As-is, you're doing absolutely nothing, which royally pisses me off.  You aren't scumhunting.  You aren't trying to break the game.  You're just sitting around complaining and saying that you're useful.

Give me one reason why we shouldn't lynch your face off.  You always look like scum; we don't lynch you because we've realized that it's largely stupid by now.  Why shouldn't we go back to treating you in a more logical fashion?
I dont like you attitude. Mafia is supposed to be fun. You are not helping, Vector
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:03:49 pm
I dont like you attitude. Mafia is supposed to be fun. You are not helping, Vector

I don't like your attitude.  Mafia is supposed to be fun, and you ruin the game for other people.  Is it really that fun to sit here and gripe about how this game annoys you and you don't like flavortext?  If you don't like it, why don't you ask for a replacement or play the game in a manner you prefer?  Sure, you'll have a better ranking this way, but who cares?  Is it really that much fun to post "Eating a ham sandwich?"  Do you truly enjoy getting yelled at?  Do you like making people angry?

Well, whatever.  I'm attempting to suggest alternatives to what you're currently doing that might be more fun for everyone involved.



Sure, vote me because you think my statements are inconvenient.  You're just digging yourself into a bigger hole.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 05:06:18 pm
I dont like you attitude. Mafia is supposed to be fun. You are not helping, Vector

I don't like your attitude.  Mafia is supposed to be fun, and you ruin the game for other people.  Is it really that fun to sit here and gripe about how this game annoys you and you don't like flavortext?  If you don't like it, why don't you ask for a replacement or play the game in a manner you prefer?  Sure, you'll have a better ranking this way, but who cares?  Is it really that much fun to post "Eating a ham sandwich?"  Do you truly enjoy getting yelled at?  Do you like making people angry?

Well, whatever.  I'm attempting to suggest alternatives to what you're currently doing that might be more fun for everyone involved.



Sure, vote me because you think my statements are inconvenient.  You're just digging yourself into a bigger hole.

Okay. I will dig a hole. A hole for YOUR GRAVE
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:07:17 pm
Sure, vote me because you think my statements are inconvenient.  You're just digging yourself into a bigger hole.

Okay. I will dig a hole. A hole for YOUR GRAVE

[/quote]

Start digging, bucko.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 08, 2009, 05:16:14 pm
Dear god, Org. Are you voting Vector for...  ruining your fun? I'm also not quite sure why you're so averse to flavortext. Italics don't even seem to have major effects.

Vector: Can you confirm whether or not you've experienced more than one effect due to flavor/italics? I'm trying to figure out whether it's a once-per-day thing or not. I'd love to know if there's some sort of system behind it.

**Gah, ninja'd thrice.**

I'm still leaning toward 'once per day'. Boksi, did you notice any effect (aside from the one posted in the thread)?
You should try another action, too.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:26:48 pm
Vector: Can you confirm whether or not you've experienced more than one effect due to flavor/italics? I'm trying to figure out whether it's a once-per-day thing or not. I'd love to know if there's some sort of system behind it.

I actually haven't experienced any effects thus far.  At the moment, I'm screwing around and hoping something comes up.

My guess is that we don't have any in-game effects from our meanderings.  What we get is information, though I'm not entirely certain what the connection between the sun and the alpha werewolf might be...
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:42:19 pm
(For example, one might think that my last post would turn me into a zombie.  I think it's more like close examination of our environment will get us some clues as to how to break the bastard mod.)

Vector examines the crowd for lupine features.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 05:54:28 pm
Vector has seen all these mugs at least once or twice. Nothing stands out among them. Funnily, he sees that the crowd is in the shape of a wolf! or is it a skull? Maybe a weird blob-shaped thing...

IM going to say this now. I dont like this game. Its getting too much like KWN Dak Edi
Unlike there, you are free to ignore the italics. As I said, no game effects. Mainly for fun. Scumhunting would be good too. (Para2 is a good example of how to balance them.)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 08, 2009, 05:55:51 pm
I wonder if we get penalties if we try doing things that our -characters- shouldn't know. E.g., examining the crowd for lupine features (I took a similar action); realistically, we don't even know that the werewolf is among us, after all.

Perhaps our italics have to fit some sort of rigid guidelines to have an effect?

I was going to suggest we try to 'lock everyone in a room' or 'tie everyone up', but the (story's) villagers would never agree to that, as it just makes them easier targets.

...perhaps I'm seriously overthinking this system. Probably best to treat it based off what we know so far as opposed to thinking up possibilities.

Clasping his hands, Apostolic Nihilist gazed up at the sky once again. The once piercing red dawn had long since faded. Returning his eyes to the crowd of rag-tag villagers before him, he began to take inventory of what (undoubtedly few) weapons they possessed. Preparedness was going to be key in surviving the night.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 05:58:43 pm
Neruz, with interesting I mean anything that would give us more hints. Perhaps even flavortext. Unvote.

Zai, why did you jump on a bandwagon?

Unvote RW0. Errol, you're a dumbass. Plain and simple. But longer explanation.

1) I've been voting RW0 for a while now, and you didn't say anything until now?  Are you blind? Or did you think I was the third person to vote for RW0 because there were already 2 people on him, and didn't check to see who those two were because you're lazy scum who wants an easy reason to vote? Me thinks the second, because ONE OF THOSE TWO WAS ME.

2) You unvoted Neruz even though you admit right before it that you aren't satisfied with what he's done. Why the hell is that? Lazy scum? Me thinks so, as that fits in quite nicely with point 1.

3) Reiterating something I said in point 1 as its own point: You're going for an easy vote. Since I was the "third" person to vote for RW0, you could get away easily with a vote for me due to the classic hit-or-miss "scumtell" of being the 3rd person on a bandwagon. But I wasn't the 3rd person, and even if I had been, I had used my second vote to grab RW0's attention so that he would see I asked him a question and not gloss over it.

"But," you'd say, "RW0 didn't answer your question. You're a hypocrite. lololol ignore my failscum." You're right; he didn't. But I've got something more solid on you than I have on him. And what I have on him is a hell of a lot more solid than what you "have" on me.

Burn in hell, Lazy Lycanthrope.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 06:01:52 pm
Zai... where, precisely, did he say anything about the third vote scumtell?  The second vote can also be a bandwagon vote, no?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Boksi on December 08, 2009, 06:02:39 pm
I got no noticeable effects, although it's possible that whatever it is, it'll only take effect during twilight, or the night, or maybe even the next day.

Or it could just merely be information.

I'm thinking the night may reveal a lot. Or it might not. Of course, we don't even know how to bring this day to an end, so...
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 06:08:31 pm
Well AN, my logic was simple: Silver is super-effective against werewolves. Therefore, get as much silver as possible and try to make some weapons if we can. Seems like we can't, unfortunately, but oh well. It was worth a try. It's not my fault the GM is railroading us.
Aureliusz Vector looks nervously over his shoulder.  He has seen starvation, plague, massacre.  Everyone he has ever loved lies buried far away in the chilly bowels of the earth.  He has little left to live for--just the weak flicker of hope that life will improve, that some day he will have good reason to continue.  He lives in that flicker twixt light and darkness, and has lost all attachment to or terror of either extreme.  He is a dead man who hopes and wonders and prays.

Despite all this, he fears the wolves.


Apologies to Joseph Conrad.  Probably also to Victor Hugo.


(Close enough. Words need not be in Middle English, or spelling would be horrifically inconsistent, and I'd say, "Rede þe boke". Periodicity is really more a matter of "no gunpowder no steam")

(..."Why is cursing"?)

"Why am I so cursed?"  Ahhh, what a whiner...

Yeah, Google Translator is special.  I figured I might as well give myself a first name this time around, especially since "Vektor" sounds like it could be vaguely Polish.  If you really, really tried to make it sound Polish.  And... come on... who can deny the attractiveness of the sound sz?  Or vaguely symbolic first names.  No, it was irresistible. 

I thank you for not making me use eð and þorn, because seriously... hurgh.  I think, though, that it would be "rede ðe boke," given that eð is the voiced form of the fricative?

[/linguistic snobbery]



Errol, I don't like the coincidence.  I also don't like the fact that you're bringing that up as an afterthought, as though a scumbuddy told you that you've got a good excuse.  Why not bring that up earlier, when I showed you the two posts together and how bad they looked?  Why mention your purported reasons for voting, rather than address my actual statement... and suddenly come up to answer it now?  No, I don't like it at all.
(cut for length)
Need to pay closer attention, I do.

Three howls over the wood send chills down your spine.

(If WP is to be trusted, ðæt and þorn are interchangable.)

I wonder if we get penalties if we try doing things that our -characters- shouldn't know. E.g., examining the crowd for lupine features (I took a similar action); realistically, we don't even know that the werewolf is among us, after all.

Perhaps our italics have to fit some sort of rigid guidelines to have an effect?

I was going to suggest we try to 'lock everyone in a room' or 'tie everyone up', but the (story's) villagers would never agree to that, as it just makes them easier targets.

...perhaps I'm seriously overthinking this system. Probably best to treat it based off what we know so far as opposed to thinking up possibilities.

Clasping his hands, Apostolic Nihilist gazed up at the sky once again. The once piercing red dawn had long since faded. Returning his eyes to the crowd of rag-tag villagers before him, he began to take inventory of what (undoubtedly few) weapons they possessed. Preparedness was going to be key in surviving the night.

(snip)
Burn in hell, Lazy Lycanthrope.
...Make that five howls.

I got no noticeable effects, although it's possible that whatever it is, it'll only take effect during twilight, or the night, or maybe even the next day.

Or it could just merely be information.

I'm thinking the night may reveal a lot. Or it might not. Of course, we don't even know how to bring this day to an end, so...
Night has, amusingly, fallen. It is now Twilight.

Apostolic Nihilist notices the villagers have brought some farm implements, as well as torches, since it seems they're to be out until nightfall. They clutch them tightly, something solid to hold on to.

Votes Tally
Errol[2]Vector,Zai
RedWarrior0[1]Pandarsenic
Vector[1]Org
Boksi[1]Neruz
Org[1]Apostolic Nihilist
Apostolic Nihilist[1]RedWarrior0
Zai[1]Errol
Neruz
Pandarsenic
Report errors if any while I write lynchflavor.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 06:10:57 pm
Zai... where, precisely, did he say anything about the third vote scumtell?  The second vote can also be a bandwagon vote, no?

No.

1) As I said in point 1, my second vote had been made long before he had switched his vote to me without getting a satisfactory response from the person he had been voting for. He made a good number of posts in between the time I voted RW0 and the time he voted me for "bandwagoning". So either he's just blind, or he's a fucking dumbass as scum.

2) 2 people voting the same person is not really bandwagoning. Buddying with the first voter, maybe. Bandwagoning, not some much.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 1- Poor Mr. Pownsterson.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 06:16:41 pm
Let me say that a little louder as I am charitable and it could have been missed.

TWILIGHT.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Night 1: One replcement needed.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 06:27:17 pm
Doublechecked. No errors are present- if they were, they were in the previous votecount and nobody protested.

By the thin margin of one, Errol is decided as the first to test the noose. Protesting innocence does nothing as you mob him and fit the rope around his neck, then kick out the support from beneath Errol's feet. He claws at the noose, trying to escape. However, the only escape Errol has is the afterlife.

You watch the body for a while, but it is apparent once he becomes still that nothing is happening.  Turns out he was a simple peasant.

You light torches and part for now, heading for the hoped safety of your beds, in your respective near-empty villages...


Errol, a vanilla townsperson, has been lynched!
It is now night. Night roles will need to send in their choices in by 24 hours from this edit, 1700 US Mountain Time. Day will begin when either occurs.

Leaving unlocked in case of someone wnting to replace. Do not post during the night (unless, obviously, you're asking to replace).
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2:Ham. 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 10:23:12 pm
Morning comes all too early, it seems. You gather at the crossroads to resume your deadly work, and...it seems that Org, eviscerated by cruel jaws, has been left there overnight, another innocent peasant. You cut down Errol's body, and bury the two as well as can be quickly managed.

Org, Vanilla Townsperson, has died in the night.

It is now the morning of Day 2.


Alive: Vector, Pandarsenic, Boksi, Neruz, RedWarrior0(requested replacing), Apostolic Nihilist, Zai
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 10:30:52 pm
Pandarsenic, you've been suspiciously lurky in this game.  Your posts are virtually information-free.  You have three posts pertaining to the actual game, and one of them is just a WIFOM-spreader:

Does that mean the scum can recruit? When would this action take place, if they could recruit?

Do they start with one or more?

ARGHHH


I'm fairly certain that you're scum, but I'll ask you this:

Who do you consider suspicious right now?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 10:36:38 pm
Apologies regarding the deceased. Not Org too much, though. Scum seems merciful by killing him.

More from me tomorrow. Just felt that was necessary to say.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 08, 2009, 11:01:24 pm
You assume scum killed him, and indeed it is a possibility, but here's what I immediately thought when I saw that:

I assumed Vector had killed him. Yesterday I also assumed that Vector had changed into a vigilante through the usage of flavor text; or at the very least gained a one-shot kill.
"Vector had the forethought to bring his club from the tavern to the meeting at the crossroads."

Of course, the above theory has little merit, so I don't suggest you take it seriously. It's an idea I entertained, and that is all.

Now, if we disregard the possibility of Vector actually being a vig, then it seems likely that scum tried to frame him. At first glance it seems as though Vector is scum: He pushed the lynch on Errol (and it went through!) and to seal the deal, Org wound up dead (who was coincidentally voting him). Perhaps it's just from bad vibes I'm getting from the earlier spat between them.

...but I don't think he is. Everything points to him, yeah, but I don't think Vector is ballsy enough to do that. He's analytical enough to know that this puts a bunch of suspicion on him, and as scum that's not something he should want.

Even though I've voiced my opinion, I'd like to hear your's, Vector.
And please do use flavor text more, too. I'd be interested to see it's effects on you. Do tell what you think of Org's demise, too. I pose you an important question: If you had gained a vigilante-esque role, would you have used it on Org last night?

Apostolic Nihilist hadn't dare sleep through the night; the image of Errol's lifeless body dangling, silhouetted against the evening sun had haunted him. By the time morning came, his nerves were at their limit. Dark, sunken eyes with nary a flicker of life, he hauled himself to the crossroads in time for the scheduled meet.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 08, 2009, 11:28:33 pm
Neruz rocks backwards and forwards on his chair, one beady eye staring out vigilantly from a forest of hair, trusty crossbow cradled in his aged but fit arms. He can see everyone crowding around the slaughtered corpse of Org, some look appalled, others seem only nonplussed.

"Harh. All he deserved."



Pandarsenic my dear; your WIFOM troubles me. Take part in this game or get off my lawn.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 11:43:54 pm
All right.  I will state here that I have gained absolutely no flavortext advantages whatsoever (as far as I know).  As in, no images of Alpha Werewolves, nothing, not even information--outside of one PM telling me my I can't have a shotgun because we're in the Dark Ages.  I'm not a vig, either.  I have no idea what I can do with my cudgel, or whether smashing someone with it in flavortext would have any effect whatsoever.

In other words, all of my experimentation has been entirely fruitless.  All I know is that there is a certain thing we should not discuss if we want the day to keep going.


Now, to answer your questions:

I doubt that I'm being framed.  I think Pandarsenic (or somebody else, though Pandarsenic's out-of-game behavior fits the bill) is pissed enough at Org to forcibly kick him out of the game, even though it's something of a waste.

The thing is, I think everyone here knows my scumplay well enough to realize that I don't care that much about the likes of Org voting me.  I'm capable of running him over by force of personality... so if I were scum, I'd take you out as my top priority.  Org just isn't dangerous to anyone (yes, I know I was terrified of him in KWN:DE, but that was because I thought he was my secret Achilles Heel).  If the scum/whoever is relying on my getting lynched based on other people thinking I'd be afraid of Org's vote, then they're insane.

To address the "lynch I pushed," it involved only two people attacking Errol for entirely different reasons, and at the end of D1 the voters in question had started to bicker with each other over whether they were justified in the lynch.  That's... well, that's not a very well-pushed lynch, especially in view of day-end happening right in the middle of it.

If framing is happening, I don't think the kill was picked solely to frame me (given the above reasons.  I think it was picked because it theoretically conferred some other advantages to some player.


Basically, this entire thing stinks of Pandarsenic.  It's covered in WIFOM (his signature), gets rid of a player he dislikes, and subtly frames a reasonably strong player all in the same move.  I hadn't noticed the framing aspect at the time of my first post, but it all fits.


As for your question about Org, that's a tough one.  Had I been granted one-shot vig powers, I'd save it until Lylo to give the town a final chance; if it were permanent, I really don't think I'd use it N1, either.  I don't like killing people without giving them a chance to fight back, and at the beginning of the night I really had no idea as to whom I should push next.

The truth is that I'd only vig Org if I strongly thought he were scum and didn't have any better leads.  I don't believe in policy kills, especially in games this small.  We just don't have the time to waste on screwing around with people who piss us off, and he didn't look like scum to me at the time (hence the lack of voting or telling him he was scummy).


Also, Boksi, get the hell out here.  Don't lurk your way through this.


More flavortext later; it takes me a long time, and I have a lovely document on Riemann Integration to study :3

I will also address your linguistic concerns later, CK.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 11:48:10 pm
Vector has suddenly noticed that Boksi actually posted more than once yesterday!

It seems that he was entirely deluded >_>


So yeah, please ignore my shout-out.  That was misguided.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 12:08:12 am
That howl again. You'd think they were trying to scare you.
Is it noon already? It is! When'd that happen?
Vote Tally
Pandarsenic[2]: Vector, Neruz
Vector[1]: Pandarsenic
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 12:26:41 am
GODDAMMIT

Sorry, guys.  I'll try to figure out how to refer to that sort of thing differently so we can stop being burdened by the damnable curfew.

My guess is that today we've got only 4 howls available, given that our hammer-number is 4.  So let's use them wisely.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 12:43:06 am
Hee hee.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 12:48:18 am
The question is this, Vector: Who is dumb enough to kill Org? I mean really? I learned my lesson the last time I killed Org - when I got you to lynch a confirmed townie.

Heehee.

But yeah, RedWarrior0 is out I'm pretty sure, Neruz why are you even voting me, Neruz is trying to get in before the bandwagon forms, Zai is giving me weird vibes but nothing definite, (though that's usually how I describe my hunches about scum, which are usually right.

However, Neruz is looking very odd to me now for reasons I CAN name, such as that he's piggybacking off of Vector to try to get on me before third vote.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 12:57:07 am
Actually i just agreed with Vector that you've been lurking a bit, and your only real contribution was some WIFOM.

Not exactly positive.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 01:04:46 am
It's finals week, you cock. I shouldn't even be on now.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 01:06:54 am
The question is this, Vector: Who is dumb enough to kill Org? I mean really? I learned my lesson the last time I killed Org - when I got you to lynch a confirmed townie.

Right, because the lesson you learned then was "Why not kill Org, so it looks like the kill isn't me?  Yeah, WIFOM is awesome."

You're dumb enough to kill Org.  It didn't hurt your game last time, and this time it's slathered in WIFOM.  It's a fabulous kill for you.

Also, the "it's too stupid for it to be me" statement?  That's WIFOM, and you're scum.


But yeah, RedWarrior0 is out I'm pretty sure, Neruz why are you even voting me, Neruz is trying to get in before the bandwagon forms, Zai is giving me weird vibes but nothing definite, (though that's usually how I describe my hunches about scum, which are usually right.

Your scumtell is run-on sentences, just like in NSBM.  I caught you with it last time, and I've caught you with it this time.  You're also being over-defensive.

Pandarsenic, go die.



It's my finals week, too... I'm just stupid enough to dick around online, and I know better than spewing WIFOM everywhere in my little handful of posts.  I also know better than clinging to a non-fruitful randomvote until deadline.

Plus, what was your excuse last time?  A gigantic paper?  You sure showed up fast whenever we called you then, too.

No, I just don't buy this.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 01:13:48 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

This is what I'm procrastinating on studying.

Also, run-ons are not a scumtell. I cleaned that up since someone pointed it out before, thankyouverymuch.

When I list suspicions, I tend to use a series of short phrases in one sentence. It's just a habit.

Try again, kthxbai. I'm going to go play Bioshock and continue to not study.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 01:22:36 am
First off...

You performed a similar post last time.  It's not that I don't think you're studying.  It's that your execution is precisely the same.

Second, you don't speak like that as town.  I've only seen you do it when I lob a major accusation at you, and never otherwise.  I don't care if you think you cleared it up.  You slipped.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 02:04:17 am
I always get verbose when I'm accused.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 02:07:07 am
Well, that or the opposite extreme.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 02:35:42 am
It's not about verbosity, in this case.  It's all about the sentence structure.  Sure, some people post lots when they're accused (example: me).  Some people post very little (example: Exkirby, Org).  Sometimes it's a scumtell; sometimes it's not.  AN tends to suddenly start posting in little chunky blocks.  ToonyMan starts forgetting to post his lists of players, and when they do come up, they're usually mirror general town opinion.  Further, they're more likely to be colored as town and black-and-white as scum.

Your first post when you're royally screwed tends to contain a run-on sentence of epic proportions.


I'm also going to note the many attempts to self-meta.  I'd expect you to blow it off... but no, you're taking it extremely seriously and trying hard to convince me that THIS IS NORMAL PANDARSENIC, NO REALLY GUYS.

That's precisely the same tactic you took last time; you are behaving and posting in a pattern I have never seen you follow as town.  You are scum, and you will hang as scum.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 02:44:44 am
As much as it pains me to say this, i think Vector is right in this case; Pandar, you've way over analysed your own meta. Your posts come off (to me) as desperate to try and prove how you're innocent and normal and there's nothing wrong at all, no siree, it's just a normal day in the park.

And honostly, that to me feels pretty scummy; overdefensiveness is a standard scumtell, and you're going overboard right now.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 02:56:29 am
As much as it pains me to say this, i think Vector is right in this case; Pandar, you've way over analysed your own meta. Your posts come off (to me) as desperate to try and prove how you're innocent and normal and there's nothing wrong at all, no siree, it's just a normal day in the park.

And honostly, that to me feels pretty scummy; overdefensiveness is a standard scumtell, and you're going overboard right now.

God-bloody-damn, why so much buddying?  First you lurk, then you find what looks like a promising bandwagon and jump on it.  Stop mirroring me and press some other people instead of being so opportunistic, scumdude, or I'll be inclined to lynch you.

If we're wrong about Pandarsenic, we've got to press the rest of the town, too.  Can't let any lurker-scum get a free ride to lylo.


So, Boksi: If you had the choice of two people from this game as scumbuddies, who would you pick?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 03:01:08 am
Way to prove me right, Neruz.

Vector, you seem very convinced of my meta, so fine. Whatever. What actual scummy things have I done besides post a run-on and refute you?

Regardless of when you answer, I'll be responding much later. 32 hours to my first final; 10 hours after that ends is my next. I have to actually study now.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:18:04 am
Vector, you seem very convinced of my meta, so fine. Whatever. What actual scummy things have I done besides post a run-on and refute you?

No problem about the studying.  I'll leave you alone and try to keep the day going until you get back.

Things I don't expect you to be able to refute:
1. The kill looks like one of yours
2. Situational meta from previous games (i.e., this situation seems extremely familiar...)
3. That run-on
4. You still sound oddly miffed/upset in your most recent post

Odd things from this game, specifically:

1. WIFOM-spreading
2. Informationless posts D1 (No hard feelings for lurking most of D2, if you do)
3. Overreaction
4. Riding a random-vote (without even attaching any questions) all of D1


There may be other stuff, but I'll pull it out when I'm less sleepy.  In any case, I'm not expecting any answers for 2 or 3 RL-days.  Good luck with your finals.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 03:34:45 am
I apologise for the 'buddying' Vector, but what exactly am i supposed to do? I agree with you.


Should i just ignore Pandar because of that and go looking for other people to scumhunt? Because i can't see any at the moment.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 03:46:41 am
Most of my D1 oddities are related to the fact that none of us knew when the day was even going to end.

The kill "looking like one of mine" is B.S. and you know it.

Situational Meta and the run-on were the same thing, as far as I can tell.

I'm miffed/upset because you're tunneling on me while Neruz prances about practically proclaiming his scuminess and his fake-tunnel on me.

WIFOM-spreading: The only post you cited for that was an expression of frustration; I don't like not knowing what we're against. Plus we have all this crap in our PMs that cryptically mentions keywords, and I don't know what they do or if they're related to how the day ends or what.

Informationless posts: Mostly a function of me not knowing where to even start.

Overreaction: Not really.

Riding a random-vote: Well if I'd known RedWarrior0 was going to disappear and/or that the day was going to end, I'd have been able to do something more productive.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:50:05 am
I apologise for the 'buddying' Vector, but what exactly am i supposed to do? I agree with you.


Should i just ignore Pandar because of that and go looking for other people to scumhunt? Because i can't see any at the moment.

All right.  Agreeing with me is fine, and though I may seem like it, I don't want to tell everyone else how to play the game in some sort of strange Mafia-ballet.  What bothers me is that you're restating my arguments and not asking any questions of your own.  It looks like you're riding a bandwagon and/or trying to buddy with me precisely the way ToonyMan did in NSBM, so I'm kind of paranoid about it.

And yeah, if you don't find anyone else suspicious, then that's the breaks.  I mostly ... hurgh.  I'll be watching you, but I submit here that I'm probably being at least somewhat unreasonable.

Bleh, must calibrate town-sensors more...
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:53:05 am
@Pandarsenic: Thank you for the post.  I'll respond to that in the morning, when I'm less sleepy and can cogitate correctly.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 03:59:26 am
Neruz's post is a total cop-out.

Neruz, why aren't you asking me any questions? Why aren't you posting anything of substance for me? At least Vector is scumhunting (as misguided as he may be), unlike you. And unlike everyone else in this game. In fact, I'm curious as to how you can say nobody else looks guilty but it doesn't concern you that only ~half of the players have posted.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 04:34:07 am
I'm not asking any questions because you havn't actually answered any.

Quote
Overreaction: Not really.

Oh yes, this is ovbiously an excellent answer, i now fully understand why you appear to be overreacting in your own defense and overanalysing your own meta. That line there just explained everything so clearly.


Protip Pandar: Going "No u" is not an answer.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 05:07:45 am
You're trying to give me a protip? Please?

Now either go find a real reason to vote for me or go kill yourself or something, scumbucket.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 06:26:12 am
See what i mean?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Boksi on December 09, 2009, 09:46:32 am
Boksi rises and rubs his eyes. He slept well enough, but then when you're as apathetic as he is you'd sleep soundly if the Jabberwocky ate the rest of the village.

Panda, Neruz, calm down a little. You're having an argument with earplugs on and that won't do either of you any good.

Now, around 7 AM my time(ie GMT), Vector asked me, directly, what two players in this game I would pick as scumbuddies. It's a difficult question to answer, so let's rule out who I wouldn't want first.

Org, for being himself.
Redwarrior0, for the same reason, although his flaws are different.
Errol and Neruz both seem rather incompetent.

That leaves Vector, Panda, AN and Zai. Of those, AN is perhaps the least noticeable. Pandarsenic is very well known, so although he's skilled I think I shouldn't pick him. And out of all of them, I feel Zai to be the least skilled.

So my picks would be Vector and Apostolic Nihilist. Reasonably skilled and not too noticeable, although Vector does have more than his fair share of the limelight right now.

Or perhaps I'd pick Org and Apostolic Nihilist. It'd be less noticeable, being as Org is Org.



But right now, I have other concerns. Most likely, every townie is a vanilla townie. Therefore, the bastard mod part is figuring out how to have effects on the game. Or, perhaps we can't and have to rely on nothing but pure scumhunting. That would be rather bastardy, don't you think?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 10:51:34 am
Vector/Pandarsenic: One (if not both) of you is scum, that's pretty clear.

Vector. You seriously didn't get an effect in a PM?

Pandarsenic. Why the complete aversion of flavortext? Use it more but avoid 'hammering' as I suppose we can call it.

It also concerns me that Vector asked for two scumbuddies as opposed to 1. We have 9 players in this game which means 2 scum, does it not? Otherwise we're at lylo right now.

6 town, 3 scum d1
*MISLYNCH*
4 town, 3 scum d2
*MISLYNCH*
2 town, 3 scum d3
*TOWN LOSE*

I'm quite sure we have 2 scum. That, or scum have some huge flaw that makes them ridiculously easy to catch.

Vector, try clobbering Pandarsenic in flavortext. I'd love to see just how italics affect you.


Oh, and Boksi: Zai is likely a good deal more skilled than I am. He's just been relatively silent this game, it seems.

I'll go through the thread again once I'm back from school in ~ 6 hours.

CobaltKobold: I'm voting Vector.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Boksi on December 09, 2009, 12:05:27 pm
Zai has an avatar. It makes him more noticeable.

Anyway, it was just my opinion.

But what are people's opinions on my theory? Do you suppose we're all vanilla townies? The two dead people were vanilla townies, and I'm a vanilla townie, and most likely whoever is reading this is a vanilla townie unless he's scum, soooo...
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 01:53:28 pm
Vector/Pandarsenic: One (if not both) of you is scum, that's pretty clear.

Vector. You seriously didn't get an effect in a PM?

It also concerns me that Vector asked for two scumbuddies as opposed to 1. We have 9 players in this game which means 2 scum, does it not? Otherwise we're at lylo right now.

*rollseyes*

1. Didn't you learn your lesson from BMIII (vis-a-vis townfights)?

2. No, I gained no effects from a PM, but then most of the crap I wrote yesterday didn't directly refer to the game.  I'm going to be more direct today.

3. I asked for two scumbuddies, rather than one, because the thought process is different.  If you're scum and thinking about one scumbuddy, it's pretty easy.  You pick an advanced player who isn't your partner.  When you're picking two scumbuddies, the thought process tends to become more confused.  I wanted to see how Boksi thought when given a more intricate question.


Also, idea before I go about braining Pandarsenic:

"Apostolic Nihilist and Boksi," says Aureliusz Vektor.  "Can I offer you a mug of ale at Day's End?"

I am going to strongly request that both of you agree.  I think I'm right about Pandarsenic being scum, but I also think that I'm onto something.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 02:46:23 pm
BOKSI:

But what are people's opinions on my theory? Do you suppose we're all vanilla townies? The two dead people were vanilla townies, and I'm a vanilla townie, and most likely whoever is reading this is a vanilla townie unless he's scum, soooo...

I have a theory on that, which I'll answer after I find out what offering you people drinks does.


PANDARSENIC:

The kill "looking like one of mine" is B.S. and you know it.

It was a thought, based on going "Hmm, what are the possible advantages of this kill? Looks like it's more of a Pandarsenic-signature than an AN-signature, say.  Also, GRARGH WIFOM." 

It's not a mainstay of my argument.


Situational Meta and the run-on were the same thing, as far as I can tell.

Close.  One is that you had the run-on in the first place, which I take as a sign of nervousness.  The second is that we've had pretty much this precise conversation before in NSBM, which makes me think that our alignments match that situation.


I'm miffed/upset because you're tunneling on me while Neruz prances about practically proclaiming his scuminess and his fake-tunnel on me.

No worries, he's the next scummiest, in my opinion.  He's getting looked at next.


WIFOM-spreading: The only post you cited for that was an expression of frustration; I don't like not knowing what we're against. Plus we have all this crap in our PMs that cryptically mentions keywords, and I don't know what they do or if they're related to how the day ends or what.

That's because it was one of the three game-related posts you made: one randomvote, one WIFOM-spreader, and the answer to a question about how you'd play as scum.  When one-third of your posts seem heavily WIFOMed, I get suspicious.


Informationless posts: Mostly a function of me not knowing where to even start.

I'm not sure if I buy it or not.  None of the other Bastard Mods I've seen you in resulted in you acting like this.


Overreaction: Not really.

If you were a VT like the rest of us seem to be, then yes really.


Riding a random-vote: Well if I'd known RedWarrior0 was going to disappear and/or that the day was going to end, I'd have been able to do something more productive.

The day ran for a good long while.  It was even bumped due to inactivity.  You had more than enough time to come experiment and try something.


NERUZ:

This isn't even funny.  I don't know why you're acting like this, but please start contributing.

I'm not asking any questions because you haven't actually answered any.

Then start asking him questions so that he'll have something to answer.  Or maybe start scumhunting or experimenting... or SOMETHING.  Right now, it seems like you're trying to look like you're scumhunting, but you actually aren't.


COBALTKOBOLD:

(If WP is to be trusted, ðæt and þorn are interchangable.)

No, actually... or at least not initially (Beowulf's consonance-based verse construction doesn't work well with them being interchangeable).  If you're familiar with Arabic, þorn is associated with tha (), while ðæt is dhal ().  I.e., they are both different "th" sounds, but ðæt is the voiced dental fricative (as in "the" or "leather"), and þorn is the unvoiced (as in "theme" or "threnody").

...

I have entirely too much spare time.


Vektor looks at Old Crazy Neruz with a little bit of disdain.  Is that really a crossbow he's holding?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Boksi on December 09, 2009, 03:33:26 pm
Don't forget Vector, you're not a confirmed townie. You sound townie, but I'm still not going to go with everything you say. Unless otherwise specified, I'll only drink if Apostolic Nihilist does not. If he drinks, I don't. It's not that I especially think you're scum, but I don't completely trust you.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:50:08 pm
Don't forget Vector, you're not a confirmed townie. You sound townie, but I'm still not going to go with everything you say. Unless otherwise specified, I'll only drink if Apostolic Nihilist does not. If he drinks, I don't. It's not that I especially think you're scum, but I don't completely trust you.

Of course, that makes perfect sense.  Hence the "strongly suggest."  Mostly, I want to find out what happens.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 04:49:52 pm
A small problem with hidden-triggered nights on forum is that twilight can come and nobody will notice until the mod comes back

All have posted. The day has ended. WIFOM is Awesome.

votes
Pandarsenic[2]
: Vector, Neruz
Vector[1]: Apostolic Nihilist
Neruz[1]: Pandarsenic

The remaining townspeople muscle Pandarsenic up to the noose, place it around his neck, and hang him until dead. He  struggles, and as the sun sets, his form changes, until what is hanging is not human...turns out he was a Werewolf. Is that it? is the town safe?

Pandarsenic has been lynched, and was textbook scum Alpha Werewolf!

Yes, I picked role assignments randomly.

Game Over!
Apostolic Nihilist, RW0, Neruz, Boksi, Errol, Zai, Org, Vector have won!


...The elements of this game are sufficiently undiscovered to run again, actually- only Pandarsenic couldn't play, due to hidden knowledge.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2- 1 REPLACEMENT NEEDED
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 04:52:48 pm
At first, I thought that I'd rather you drink it, Boksi, but I'm not one to ask others to potentially sacrifice themselves.

I doubt it's deadly, as Vector wouldn't suggest it unless he was certain the both of us would die. Even then, he wouldn't do it this far from lylo... unless we're at lylo right now (a possibility, albeit unlikely).

If you were to die, Vector is going to be lynched, so we can assume you won't die or at the very least you won't die today. More likely, Vector's trying to figure out the game mechanics (or spread WIFOM, which he's doing an excellent job of); do multi-player actions require consent from both parties?


I don't have a choice. I'm drinking from the cup.

Apostolic nodded.
"Ale is always good."
At Vektor's suggestion, he made his way to Day's End; at the very least, the brewer had left his stocks mostly intact. One of the first to flee, too.


EDIT:
And I'm ninja'd!
By the mod, no less! And the game has been won!
Oh, what woe.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 04:57:53 pm
Vector: WP claims that they were used interchangably, in Eth:
Quote
In Old English, ð (referred to as ðæt by the Anglo-Saxons) was used interchangeably with þ (thorn) to represent either voiced or voiceless dental fricatives.
That's all I've got.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 09, 2009, 05:04:28 pm
I don't care if the mechanic was glorious, I WANNA KNOW IT GODDAMMIT! Just cause.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Boksi on December 09, 2009, 05:08:15 pm
Well, in modern literature no word ever begins with a capital Ð. I've always though ð is more of a buzzing sound, while þ is more of a whistle. I think it depends on wheþer you put the tip of your tongue in front of or behind your teeth.

Anyway, I doubt the mechanics were that great. They were frustrating, harsh and difficult to figure out.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Org on December 09, 2009, 05:09:06 pm
Thanks for killing me Panda
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 05:09:36 pm
DO NOT REVEAL MECHANICS PLEASE.  TOO MUCH LOVE TO NEVER RUN AGAIN.

... Sorry, other post pending.  Felt a need to write that.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 05:10:09 pm
Harsh, frustrating, and difficult to figure out? Precisely what we need when we're up against one scum!

I think it'd be great if you ran it again. At the very least, I enjoyed it a good deal (even though I was about to lead a witch hunt on Vector).
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 05:14:21 pm
Oh, are you bloody serious?  If there's another round of this, I am inning INCREDIBLY HARD.  Man... well, let's just say that I'm crazy about this one and found it to be lots of fun.  Compared with KWN:DE, there was just the right number of hints to figure out how things work.

Damn.  So much love.


As far as ð and þ go, this is what I was talking about:

Quote
The letter thorn was used for writing Old English very early on, like ð; but, unlike ð, it remained in common usage through most of the Middle English period. A thorn with the ascender crossed was a popular abbreviation for the word that. Even though Old English had the two sounds distinguished in speech[,] in written texts the two letters were often regarded as equivalent to each other.

So, your initial spelling was correct.  The two linguistics-oriented people who spoke to me about this in years past must have been tainted by modern IPA, the fools >_>


And yeah, AN, I know I was acting incredibly funky by the end.  Turned out that I was wrong in my second guess WRT the game mechanics, but right about my first... oh, well.  Heh.  Heheheheh.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 05:30:56 pm
I don't care if the mechanic was glorious, I WANNA KNOW IT GODDAMMIT! Just cause.
DO NOT REVEAL MECHANICS PLEASE.  TOO MUCH LOVE TO NEVER RUN AGAIN.

... Sorry, other post pending.  Felt a need to write that.
poll added..? Actually, let's do this mafia-style. That lets me get the important votes.
Votes
Hide/Rerun[2]
: Vector, Apostolic Nihilist
Show/Cannot Rerun[1]: RedWarrior0

Not Voting: Boksi, Errol, Org, Pandarsenic, Neruz, Zai.
Know Too Much: Pandarsenic, Mr.Person, Dakarian(requested spoiler spectating)

Also, I am not going to say any more than I already have about whether you're barking up wrong trees or not.

Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 09, 2009, 05:33:55 pm
You can PM it to me.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 05:35:53 pm
Oh. Good point. Bars you from participating in future though. (*pms)
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 05:37:32 pm
Why not just tell those who want to know via PM or QuickTopic or something, so that those of us who really want to play can do so?  I think you'd get enough for another game, if you ran it in a while, especially because the crops of noobs continue to be fairly large.  I mean... the flavortext integration actually worked in this one.  We had scumhunting + flavoring going on.

The only thing I'd really want changed was the day-end mechanic, since "days end once everyone has posted" (if that's what it was) leads to seriously shafting active towns.  There's surely got to be some other, better way to do it.

...

</wheedling plea>

Also, ninja'd.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 05:40:59 pm
I kinda want you to rerun it so I can /in.

Now, I wonder what Pandar's advantage was... ah well, no good if he got lynched the old fashioned way, I guess.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 05:45:11 pm
Now, I wonder what Pandar's advantage was... ah well, no good if he got lynched the old fashioned way, I guess.

Yeah, I'm vaguely shocked that I managed to catch him.  I almost flopped onto Neruz at the end, too >_>
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 05:49:20 pm
Votes
Hide/Rerun[3]
: Vector, Apostolic Nihilist, Leafsnail
Show/Cannot Rerun[1]: RedWarrior0

Not Voting: Boksi, Errol, Org, Pandarsenic, Neruz, Zai.
Know Too Much: Pandarsenic, Mr.Person, Dakarian(requested spoiler spectating)
The only thing I'd really want changed was the day-end mechanic, since "days end once everyone has posted" (if that's what it was) leads to seriously shafting active towns.  There's surely got to be some other, better way to do it.

Emeralds are grue.

You restack the stones on the three bodies, relieved to have gotten rid of the menace...for now. But Pandarsenic's body you place in a heap of firewood, and ignite it, beginning a bonfire, fearful of him rising again.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 05:51:38 pm
Emeralds are grue.

... Great, now I'm going to take hours figuring that one out.


EDIT: Never mind, message probably received.  Of course, now I've been horribly WIFOM'd... but I think I've figured out what you meant.  Your current mechanic is very good.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 05:54:12 pm
Wait, wait a minute....
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 06:00:25 pm
Grue riddle. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_and_bleen#The_new_riddle) (Not the zork grue.)

anyway, anyone else want a CC on the rules?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 06:04:42 pm
Grue riddle. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grue_and_bleen#The_new_riddle)

Wait what Pandarsenic?

... Ah.  Yes, that was completely different from my interpretation.  Thank you.  You threw something at me that looked like symbolism... but then it wasn't >_>  Curses.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 06:07:53 pm
Cobalt. Your inbox. Respond plx. :c
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 06:11:58 pm
Apples and pomegranates and knighted sheep, vectoradict?

Since I have three revealed to want to in next round, I think I'll keep it secret except on request.

Patience Pandarsenic. It's coming with the summary of game, which I sent now.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 06:13:26 pm
I... what.

Oh, right, wikipedia. At first I assumed you were talking about Zork.

...I understand the 'grue' problem, but I'm not sure how it relates to this game. <_<
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 06:18:03 pm
I... what.

Oh, right, wikipedia. At first I assumed you were talking about Zork.

...I understand the 'grue' problem, but I'm not sure how it relates to this game. <_<
I am intentionally cryptic.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 06:19:51 pm
Apples and pomegranates and knighted sheep, vectoradict?

Apples, pomegranates, knighted sheep indeed.  Also birthstones, slight alterations of person and tense, combined with my association-explosion of the word "grue."  I, too, thought Zork.  Philosophy is not my strong point.

(Of course, one of the things that came of that was "purity is evil."  That one was weird.)


...I understand the 'grue' problem, but I'm not sure how it relates to this game. <_<

She revealed that I was applying faulty induction to a binary truth value, essentially.  I strongly agreed with her, especially after I reread the OP.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Neruz on December 09, 2009, 06:27:38 pm
I really want to know how this one works XD
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 06:38:13 pm
Well, I was misusing the problem, but it was understood anyway. Grue problem is more a "the evidence to distinguish different hypothetical, contradictory cases does not exist/is not had, though the hypotheses predict correctly."

...looks like Neruz and Boksi are going to be in the "Know Too Much" category.

The Nightkill PM, as it is safe to reveal...
You leap in through a window. There is a brief struggle, but Org is no match for your feral power. Soon, he is dead. You drag the body out through the woods and leave it at the crossroads to be found the next morning, that you may savor the delicious terror it will cause.
Votes
Hide/Rerun[3]
: Vector, Apostolic Nihilist, Leafsnail

Not Voting: Errol, Org.
Know Too Much: Pandarsenic, Mr.Person, Dakarian(requested spoiler spectating), Boksi, Neruz, RedWarrior0(requested replacement), Zai
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 09, 2009, 08:00:43 pm
Nice mechanic. I'm supposed to be in "Know too much"
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 08:02:41 pm
*handwave* These are not the errors you're looking for.

So hmm, three would want another round. Not going to run it for a while though- after all, I have end-semester stuff too.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 08:18:25 pm
I'm impressed on how this turned out.  I was expecting an ugly mess from [classified information] but it all worked out.

Very nicely run there.  I'll make sure to watch next game. :D
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Mr.Person on December 09, 2009, 09:00:53 pm
Why do I always root for the scum when watching games?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Zai on December 09, 2009, 09:20:12 pm
Reveal the information to me. Publicly.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 09:38:50 pm
Mr.Person: I know! I mean, I was expecting quite a game with how the RNG came up.

Dakarian: Yes, [redacted], but [censored] the [classified].

Reveal the information to me. Publicly.
No.

You may get the rules privately like other interested parties, though, if you wish.
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 09, 2009, 10:40:32 pm
This joke demands to get out:
The internet is for þorn.
Sing it with me!

Not e'en a titter?
Title: Re: Ill Met By Moonlight Mafia:(BastardMaybeMod) Day 2: Game Over!
Post by: Vector on December 10, 2009, 02:32:17 am
HAH.

Well played.  Initially thought that was actually a p.