Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 10:59:30 am
But can you do both? Can you take down the mafia with 6 others, then turn around as mafia and BEAT those 6 to a pulp? Can you pick just the perfect role-braving additions caused by an evil mod-that will not only help you as town but also as scum? Can you fight off endless waves of people, including those you've killed?
Well then step on the hill and see if you have what it takes to be King of the Mafia.
Spoiler: Basic Rules: READ! (click to show/hide)
Specialized Rules:
Inning is not required to sign up. To sign up read only the two pages of Xylbot's role list (http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12368) and choose ONE role from there. You will then be assigned with that role, with a possibility of additional features based on balance or tomfoolery(though nothing hidden).
Spoiler: Largish rules for choosing a role (click to show/hide)
Once 7 people have signed up, the game begins. A random person will be picked as King Mafia and will be given, on top of their role, the Mafiakill. The VERY FIRST ROUND ONLY will start at a killless Night 0.
From there, the game continues. During the game, anyone else can Sign up to be put on a que. Game will play like a standard mafia game. If you die at any time, you may Sign up again, though others who haven't played that round will have priority.
If King Mafia is killed at any time, the round ends. Those in que will take the place of those that died to refill the ranks back to 7 (those still alive remain), a new King Mafia will be picked, and the game will start on the next cycle (Old round ends in Day, new round starts at Night...)
Play continues until King Mafia succeeds in being the ONLY one alive.
There is an antilurk system in place. Each RL day, you MUST have either voted (even if its for the same person) or sent in an action. Fail once and you get one prod. Fail twice in the same round and you will be killed, a player in Que will automatically Sub in for you, and you will not be able to rejoin.
All may join this game, though be aware of the antilurk system.
You're done with the rules. Now join and claim the mountain!
Spoiler: Round 1 results: (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Round 2 results: (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Round 3 results: (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: (Final Round) Round 4 results: (click to show/hide)
Post by: Leafsnail on December 08, 2009, 11:18:40 am
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Inning is not required to sign upSo, uh, how will you know if we want to play? ;)
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Quoting the PM ALLOWED.Very unusual... then again, I suppose all the role pms are already on the list you gave us.
Now... the first two pages I suppose just means "No theme roles" and "No non-mafia roles". I guess I just pm you my choice?
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 11:32:29 am
You sign in by sending me you choice. You can still IN of you feel big for it, but it'll be the choice sending that tells me you're in.
And yes, the role PMs you receive will be pretty bland.
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2009, 01:36:06 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 01:43:13 pm
If you chose Cop, I can't make you a Random Cop. Insane, yes. Lesser Cop? Of course. Reactionary Cop? Yah. But somewhere, your role has to work in some form.
Now rework it to kill the advantage you get from the role? I can do that. I can do that very well. ;)
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 04:22:34 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 08, 2009, 05:18:32 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 05:20:53 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 05:28:03 pm
There is ONE mod rule I have for the additions. I can't 'destroy' the role you chose. i..eso no Naïve, Stoned, or Paranoid? ( Naïve and Paranoid are only useful if 3rd parties exist.)
If you chose Cop, I can't make you a Random Cop. Insane, yes. Lesser Cop? Of course. Reactionary Cop? Yah. But somewhere, your role has to work in some form.
Now rework it to kill the advantage you get from the role? I can do that. I can do that very well. ;)
I don't see page boundaries...
For a moment htere I thought you had actually stumbled on how to make All-Star Mafia work.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:30:30 pm
I don't see page boundaries...
I think he means the first two posts. They look kind of like pages.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 05:33:48 pm
Dakarian is the King of Hosts...
Let me just send the role. :-P
Post by: Leafsnail on December 08, 2009, 05:38:41 pm
qUEUE!Well, he also said nothing would be hidden. So that rules out "0%" as well.There is ONE mod rule I have for the additions. I can't 'destroy' the role you chose. i..eso no Naïve, Stoned, or Paranoid? ( Naïve and Paranoid are only useful if 3rd parties exist.)
If you chose Cop, I can't make you a Random Cop. Insane, yes. Lesser Cop? Of course. Reactionary Cop? Yah. But somewhere, your role has to work in some form.
Now rework it to kill the advantage you get from the role? I can do that. I can do that very well. ;)
I don't see page boundaries...
For a moment htere I thought you had actually stumbled on how to make All-Star Mafia work.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 05:43:15 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 08, 2009, 05:45:08 pm
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 05:45:19 pm
*checks* There is no Elvis role. Huh.
I know, that drove me crazy during KWN: DE. There's also no Batman listed.
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 06:19:00 pm
There's also no Batman listed.
There is a Bruce Wayne, though~
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 08, 2009, 06:27:06 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 06:40:57 pm
That's why he's complaining of no Batman, because Bruce Wayne turns into a Batman.There's also no Batman listed.
There is a Bruce Wayne, though~
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 07:02:59 pm
2. Bruce Wayne is listed so he can exist. Batman isn't, but you aren't CHOOSING batman and I know what the role does.
Of course, I may choose to 'balance' him ;).
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 07:05:16 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 07:06:39 pm
1. That does NOT rule out 0% technically. I can't do, say, a 0% vig since that's just killing hte role. I can knock parts of the role though (i.e. Fallen Angel).What
2. Bruce Wayne is listed so he can exist. Batman isn't, but you aren't CHOOSING batman and I know what the role does.
Of course, I may choose to 'balance' him ;).
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 07:09:46 pm
WhatwouldDoes Batman Do?
He has this belt of tools that has everything you could ever possibly need and goes through sidekicks several times and...
No, wait. That's the real Batman. ._.
Oh god. This is making me want to have a Batman-themed Mafia. Possibly without Batman actually attempting to be canonical.
[EDIT:]
I PMed you put me on the sign-up!Same.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 08, 2009, 07:10:35 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on December 08, 2009, 07:13:02 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 08, 2009, 07:16:17 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 07:21:38 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on December 08, 2009, 07:22:18 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 07:25:02 pm
Kill oriented flying pumpkin is Thing from Beyond.Hmm. I guess Norris isn't that kill-y.
Error: Thing from Beyond not found.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 08, 2009, 07:25:25 pm
No, 1-shot everything is Chuck Norris. Batman can kill, I remember that, bur i don't know what else Batman can do.
Chuck Norris is a kill-oriented Flying Pumpkin.
Kill oriented flying pumpkin is Thing from Beyond.
And remember just how ridiculous this conversation has gotten.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 07:26:19 pm
O NOE THIS NOT NOT GOOD AT ALLL
I AM ALRAGABALRLAGG
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 07:33:26 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 07:53:57 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 07:55:19 pm
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 07:56:38 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 07:57:22 pm
Sorry Dakarian, I'm doing a lot of stuff anyway. :[
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 07:58:13 pm
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 08:00:34 pm
I'm only staying if we get to policy lynch you Day 1.
We can~
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 08:01:59 pm
I'm only staying if we get to policy lynch you Day 1.
We can~
Oh, well, is everyone up for this? I haven't done a policy lynch since ever and it would be so cool then.
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 08:05:22 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 08:06:53 pm
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 08:09:50 pm
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 08:11:32 pm
Wow guys way to go.
You know, we keep trying to explain this to you. The way you play makes it hard for other to have fun; you keep signing up for Beginner's Mafias without ever working on your skills or anything like that. It's profoundly irritating.
It's not that you're a bad player. It's that you're a player who makes it hard for others to enjoy themselves.
Post by: Org on December 08, 2009, 08:13:04 pm
No its because you guys cant get over the fact that I can only post a little due to Rl.Wow guys way to go.
You know, we keep trying to explain this to you. The way you play makes it hard for other to have fun; you keep signing up for Beginner's Mafias without ever working on your skills or anything like that. It's profoundly irritating.
It's not that you're a bad player. It's that you're a player who makes it hard for others to enjoy themselves.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 08:13:37 pm
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 08:15:35 pm
No its because you guys cant get over the fact that I can only post a little due to Rl.
...
Counterexample: Rysith. He posts once per day, and though people occasionally get pissed at him for lurking, there's nary a mention of banning or policy lynches. You post a lot, but there's pretty much never content. Hence we get pissed at you.
And yeah, Toony, that's a really good idea.
Post by: Zai on December 08, 2009, 08:16:10 pm
I have an idea Org, why don't you stick to one game and put all your effort in that? Because right now YOU'RE IN EVERY GAME.
And due to Conservation of Ninjitsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu?from=Main.ConservationOfNinjitsu), you put next to no effort into any of them.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 08:16:51 pm
I have an idea Org, why don't you stick to one game and put all your effort in that? Because right now YOU'RE IN EVERY GAME.
And due to Conservation of Ninjitsu (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu?from=Main.ConservationOfNinjitsu), you put next to no effort into any of them.
Funny that, I was reading that article today.
Post by: CobaltKobold on December 08, 2009, 09:06:24 pm
Evolve, Doublekill, Possess, Apocalypse, and Prime skills do NOT work.conclusion:Mutate works.
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QueUEd
D:Claiming already, Toonyman? Each night, you turn someone into an azwolg?
O NOE THIS NOT NOT GOOD AT ALLL
I AM ALRAGABALRLAGG
...*approaches flame war with fire extinguisher
edit: It occurs to me- death millers are worthless, not because they flip as death miller (mafia) (which they will)- but because if they do not end the round, they are clearly merely town death millers.
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 09:23:59 pm
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2009, 10:19:52 pm
Post by: Vector on December 08, 2009, 10:24:12 pm
Policy lynch Org in every game. That'll learn ya.
Do we really want to sacrifice our first kill every game to a petty vendetta? It seems like a bit of a waste.
Post by: webadict on December 08, 2009, 10:28:00 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 10:31:05 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 08, 2009, 10:41:18 pm
All others have been qued. As I said, the signups will ALWAYS be open. Send me a role and you'll be qued in.
For now, thanks to the power of NO FLAVOR!! I can simply say this.
GAME HAS STARTED!
It is now Night 0. Kill powers have been disabled. Protection roles unnecessary. Those with other roles, send me your choices!
Post by: ToonyMan on December 08, 2009, 11:02:28 pm
:-D
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 08, 2009, 11:03:10 pm
Worth it.Policy lynch Org in every game. That'll learn ya.
Do we really want to sacrifice our first kill every game to a petty vendetta? It seems like a bit of a waste.
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 12:11:42 am
WELCOME TO ROUND ONE OF KING OF THE MAFiA!
It is now Day
CobaltKobold has committed suicide. She was a:
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Suicidal Jester
You win if you are lynched. You will die in Night 0. This cannot be avoided.
Survivors:
Leafsnail
Webadict
Mr.Person
Toonyman
JanusTwoFace
Zai
The next vote or action is due Thursday, 12:01 AM EST. Any vote or action marked as sent after this time will be deemed Late.
Deadline: Friday, 9PM EST.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 09, 2009, 12:18:31 am
So, 6 of us left and 1 is scum. I knows it's not me, so it must be Zai.
Any ideas on the kinds of insanity we may be dealing with?
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 12:24:20 am
1 person is King Mafia. The rest are Town.
Now what insanity your roles will bring..well.. we'll see.
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 12:37:24 am
And of course, you're probably right. I'll vote Zai as well.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 07:24:43 am
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 09:20:42 am
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 09:36:54 am
Post by: Mr.Person on December 09, 2009, 10:42:42 am
Oh, and Zai, sorry, but you gotta go.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 10:53:09 am
Mr.Person, why are you claiming so early?
And finally, Janus, what do you think of Vector's night 0 suicide?
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 11:00:16 am
What... the... fuck... are you doing? Webadict, why are you outing yourself as a double voter so early?Are you stupid? I didn't double vote. Read the flippin' rules already. Also, a double vote looks like this: Zai Zai. Not putting Zai in two separate posts... Don't be dumb.
Mr.Person, why are you claiming so early?
And finally, Janus, what do you think of Vector's night 0 suicide?
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 11:13:12 am
Post by: Mr.Person on December 09, 2009, 11:29:01 am
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 11:30:39 am
But nevermind.
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 11:38:05 am
Note: MUST remind myself "don't play with the vote count.. it's not a Bastard.. don't play with the vote count"
Current Vote Count
Zai[4]: JanusTwoface, Webadict, Toonyman, Mr.Person
JanusTwoface[1]: Leafsnail
Not Voting: Zai
Note: If you have voted or actioned at this point, you won't have to again until asked (which will be in a very clear all-caps and bolded text)
Deadline to vote/action: Thursday, 12:01am EST
Deadline to end of day: Thursday, 9 pm EST
Majority on a single player reached. Requests to End Day can be made. 3 requests with no more than 1 objection will End Day.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 11:41:03 am
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 11:49:52 am
Heck, what's your problem, anyhow? Weren't feeling for a bandwagon? :P
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 12:03:35 pm
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 12:07:21 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 12:23:53 pm
END THE DAY!
Post by: Mr.Person on December 09, 2009, 12:53:59 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 01:21:01 pm
Zai, Incompetent Jackie Chan Undertaker, has been lynched.
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You can kill another player each night. Your target is selected randomly. You properly bury dead players, ensuring that they can't return to life later. Trackers will see you target the dead player. You are immune to all other actions. Actions: kill
It is now Night. Night roles, send me your choices!
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 02:24:26 pm
Webadict, Self Disable-Reactionary Ninja, has been killed.
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You may kill another player. You show up as a Townie (town) to cops and on death, and your actions can't be detected by trackers or watchmen. If targeted, you will be disabled for the following night Actions: kill
Mr.Person, TownKill Magnet Overeager Friendly Neighbor Traitor and KING MAFIA has been killed.
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If the mafia try to kill you at night, you will join the mafia as a Mafioso instead. If you are killed some other way, you still die. Town aligned Night kills have a 50% chance of being redirected to you. During the day, you can make someone your friend. That player will be told your alignment. If you don't use an action at day, you will target a random player. Actions: (day)friend
ROUND 1 HAS ENDED!
Survivors who move on to round 2
Leafsnail
Toonyman
JanusTwoFace
Newcomers from the Que entering Round 2
Org
Apostolic Nihilist
Pandarsenic
6 enter, but 1 more is needed to start the next round. If you are not already in Round 2 please sign up to join.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 03:14:45 pm
And what the heck did Mr.Person choose as his role anyway? His role looked horrifically useless.
Post by: webadict on December 09, 2009, 03:16:36 pm
What the heck just happened...He chose Friendly Neighbor. Perhaps I'll find a way to make this better.
And what the heck did Mr.Person choose as his role anyway? His role looked horrifically useless.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 03:24:29 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 03:28:59 pm
Alright, who's going to fill in slot number 7?
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:29:34 pm
A behavioral-based game would likely work better in the spirit of the King of the Mafia concept. The super-fast thing we have going here just looks like some vague bastardization of IRC.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 03:30:28 pm
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:39:45 pm
Well, actually, noone's won yet. The only way to win is by being the mafia king and winning. The prize we get is another shot at being the king.
I'm not saying that anyone's won. I'm just thinking about how the spirit of this game might be better "catered to."
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 03:40:51 pm
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 03:41:57 pm
I was actually responding the ToonyMan's post, but yeah, you may be right.
Oh, dammit >_> Note to self: pay more attention to what is going on when caffeinated. Sorry about that, then.
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 04:07:39 pm
CobaltKobold: Jester (that's why she ended up Suicidal. Even warned her of it)
Mr.Person: Traitor (similar situation)
Webadict: Ninja
Zai: Jackie Chan
As for the roles: I'm not sure about making it mountainous. The game is meant to be faster than usual and is meant to end up with lots of dead Kings. If it's mountainous, I can seriously see the King winning first day given how non-role heavy games run down.
I could always just give random single roles and let it run like that. That'll keep everyone from going mass killer or trying to game the system (Jester? Traitor? MEH!!)
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 04:11:33 pm
Ultimately, I'm rethinking the game idea and realizing that as a long-term thing, it's inherently broken and I see no way to fix it.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 04:25:09 pm
Post by: MagmaDeath on December 09, 2009, 04:26:31 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 04:31:44 pm
In truth, the game is meant to run like a multi-role smaller version of Paranormal. The players just decided to speedrun day 1.
Sidenote: I got my 7th. Let's see how it runs now, especially now that they know to be careful of overpoweredness.
Post by: Vector on December 09, 2009, 04:36:24 pm
In any case, it's a wonderful experiment, and I'll give it a try some other time.
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 04:48:41 pm
It is now Day.
Surviving players:
Leafsnail
Toonyman
JanusTwoFace
Org
Apolistic Nihilist
Pandarsenic
Webadict
Deadline for end of day: Friday, 9pm EST
Deadline for voting or performing an action: Thursday, 5PM EST
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 09, 2009, 04:52:54 pm
So webadict, what do you think about the insanity of round 1 (that you had such a key part in?)
(Not voting because I don't want the same thing to happen while I'm asleep again, although I guess it turned out for the best)
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 04:53:34 pm
So, why are you alive, huh!?
Post by: Org on December 09, 2009, 05:07:27 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 05:27:43 pm
Org, I'll take the blue pill. Ignorance is bliss, etc etc.
Leafsnail!
In light of these new revelations (Dakarian obliterating the usefulness of most roles), which would you choose if you knew you were going to end up King?
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 05:27:56 pm
Good morning everyone, especially ToonyMan.
So, why are you alive, huh!?
I said earlier I was a survivor.
Sweet, I did nothing and won. I'M A SURVIVOR. EEEEEE
Alright, who's going to fill in slot number 7?
Also, vote Org. Lynch. Him.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 05:39:44 pm
...that was a very quick first round.The role I chose this game. And why no vote, Apostolic Nihilist?
Org, I'll take the blue pill. Ignorance is bliss, etc etc.
Leafsnail!
In light of these new revelations (Dakarian obliterating the usefulness of most roles), which would you choose if you knew you were going to end up King?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 05:50:01 pm
That's a bandwagon I can get behind.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 05:57:59 pm
Unvote....that was a very quick first round.The role I chose this game. And why no vote, Apostolic Nihilist?
Org, I'll take the blue pill. Ignorance is bliss, etc etc.
Leafsnail!
In light of these new revelations (Dakarian obliterating the usefulness of most roles), which would you choose if you knew you were going to end up King?
The lynch last game went way too fast.
Lynching Org sounds like a solid plan, too. This game seems heavily skewed toward night actions, and so be it. With any luck we'll win N1 again.
Post by: Org on December 09, 2009, 05:59:52 pm
hehehe
Post by: Leafsnail on December 09, 2009, 06:06:07 pm
Post by: Org on December 09, 2009, 06:07:56 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 06:12:09 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 07:00:12 pm
All killing the King Mafia does is give everyone the chance to become Mafia. Only the Mafia King has a chance of winning it all.
Thus King of the Hill style. You all keep pushing the King down until one person can keep on the hill.
Current Vote Count:
Apostolic Nihilist[1]: Leafsnail
Org[4]: ToonyMan, Pandarsenic, Apostolic Nihilist, Org,
*glare* Just don't get you guys.
End of Day can be requested. 3 requests with no rejections.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 07:03:45 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 07:04:35 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 09, 2009, 07:12:59 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 07:35:10 pm
No, I'm not just being petty.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 09, 2009, 08:59:43 pm
There.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 09, 2009, 09:03:24 pm
Post by: Zai on December 09, 2009, 09:09:18 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 09, 2009, 09:19:33 pm
Definitely not rejoining since this is how the game's gonna be: lack of substance and full of ass.
There you are!
Post by: dakarian on December 09, 2009, 09:44:05 pm
Org has been lynched....
...and has returned to life.
It is now Night. Night Roles: Send me your actions!
Post by: dakarian on December 10, 2009, 08:38:46 am
Pandarsenic has been killed in the night...
..but this morning he was brought back to life.
Webadict's body has been found trapped under a bookshelf. He, however, seems to have stayed dead.
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One-Shot Forensics Expert Redirecter
You may perform an autopsy on a dead player, possibly giving you information about that player's killer. Your ability can only be used once. You can redirect another player's ability to target another player Actions: redirect (day)autopsy (1 use)
Survivors:
Leafsnail
ToonyMan
JanusTwoface
Org
Apostolic Nihilist
Pandarsenic
Deadline: Friday, 11:59pm EST
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 11:00:35 am
Also, seems someone got a new role.
JanusTwoface, you wouldn't happen to know anything about the multitude of deaths last night, would you?
Post by: webadict on December 10, 2009, 11:35:14 am
Post by: Leafsnail on December 10, 2009, 12:34:21 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 01:59:51 pm
JanusTwoface, you wouldn't happen to know anything about the multitude of deaths last night, would you?
Maybe? I need to ask dakarian something first. I'll post as soon as I have a response. Also a potential answer to this:
Org, why did you revive even though I know for a fact that you aren't a reviver?
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 02:42:10 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 10, 2009, 03:19:31 pm
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 04:42:08 pm
Org, why did you revive even though I know for a fact that you aren't a reviver?It was the old switcharoo
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 05:00:50 pm
ToonyMan.
If I'm right, you are scum!!11
Dakarian: I want to exchange roles with ToonyMan.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 10, 2009, 05:02:19 pm
With whom?Org, why did you revive even though I know for a fact that you aren't a reviver?It was the old switcharoo
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 05:04:42 pm
Whoa, ToonyBro. Hold up there. I don't like it when you throw around random accusations. In fact, I find it very suspicious.
ToonyMan.
If I'm right, you are scum!!11
Dakarian: I want to exchange roles with ToonyMan.
I was switched earlier today, won't find anything. Nice job though, scum.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 05:05:58 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 05:08:02 pm
I'm guessing around two or three switch people. There is a whole freaking bunch. I was switched twice Day 1.
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 05:09:50 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 05:10:38 pm
Dakarian: I want to exchange roles with ToonyMan.
Why do people do this? If you have an action to do, do it via PM. If you do it this way and something happens then there is confirmed information that we shouldn't have. For all we know, you don't actually have such an ability and you're just trying to WIFOM us.
Ug.
Also, there's no reason (that I can think of) that your scumminess would be affected by a role switch, which means that we can almost guarantee that either ToonyMan or Apostolic Nihilist is scum...
I'm inclined to believe ToonyMan for the time being, so Vote Apostolic Nihilist.
For now, I wish to officially object to day ending unless I specifically state otherwise. Both times all three votes to end the day have come while I was asleep. It turned out well, but it's still mildly annoying.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 05:12:22 pm
Woah woah woah. Whats this switching going on
As far as I can tell, multiple people have picked roles that allow them to either switch roles with someone else or choose two people to swap roles. I haven't actually been touched by one thus far, so I can't guarantee this, but it seems plausible.
(Clarification for previous post: I object to the day ending early. The day ending normally is fine.)
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 05:13:13 pm
Tsk tsk tsk.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 05:16:34 pm
You're not going to bring up the fact there could be a bus driver/redirector type role Apostolic?
Tsk tsk tsk.
Ok, that's why I don't want the day ending early. I hadn't even considered role redirection, just role swapping.
General question: If an investigative action is redirected, does the investigator know who they actually target? Or do they get the correct result, just for the wrong person?
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 05:30:19 pm
If we have a redirector, then I suppose it makes more sense.
I'll also (preemptively) object to the day extension.
I just find it awfully convenient that you had an investigative role, targeted me, got a guilty result, then had your role switched around several times, as if to prevent me from being able to confirm what role you have.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 08:34:24 pm
Maybe? I need to ask dakarian something first. I'll post as soon as I have a response. Also a potential answer to this:
So I got confirmation back from dakarian on a few things. In answer to the original question, from Apostolic Nihilist, I know nothing about any of the deaths. Although I don't have any real reason (yet) to target someone else, one part of me wonders if lynching Org today would work better than yesterday. Most reviver roles are one-shot IIRC.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 08:41:48 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 08:43:47 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 10, 2009, 09:01:55 pm
Also, there's no reason (that I can think of) that your scumminess would be affected by a role switch, which means that we can almost guarantee that either ToonyMan or Apostolic Nihilist is scum...
Nope.
Maybe? I need to ask dakarian something first. I'll post as soon as I have a response. Also a potential answer to this:
So I got confirmation back from dakarian on a few things. In answer to the original question, from Apostolic Nihilist, I know nothing about any of the deaths. Although I don't have any real reason (yet) to target someone else, one part of me wonders if lynching Org today would work better than yesterday. Most reviver roles are one-shot IIRC.
Lynch Org again? Didn't you want to lynch Apostolic because I said so?
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 09:05:51 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 09:10:21 pm
Also, there's no reason (that I can think of) that your scumminess would be affected by a role switch, which means that we can almost guarantee that either ToonyMan or Apostolic Nihilist is scum...
Nope.
This was before I thought about role redirections. If you claim to have investigated AN and got a guilty result that would naively mean one of two things:
- You are town and AN is scum (or choose a role that shows scum which he probably would have mentioned by now)
- You are lying scum trying to frame AN (and we can lynch you tomorrow)
With possible action redirection that wouldn't have told you, then that gets a little bit fuzzier. For that matter, if there's someone out there that redirected actions targetting AN or redirected ToonyMan, you should probably say something now so we can figure out who the actual scum is.
Maybe? I need to ask dakarian something first. I'll post as soon as I have a response. Also a potential answer to this:
So I got confirmation back from dakarian on a few things. In answer to the original question, from Apostolic Nihilist, I know nothing about any of the deaths. Although I don't have any real reason (yet) to target someone else, one part of me wonders if lynching Org today would work better than yesterday. Most reviver roles are one-shot IIRC.
Lynch Org again? Didn't you want to lynch Apostolic because I said so?
I was just curious. With his response (if he's not lying of course) that means that he either has to be night killed (not necessarily a problem, even for the town) that he has more than one revival.
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 09:26:25 pm
WOAH WOAH WOAH
Janus is scum. I am a Day Cop. He is scum.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 09:35:02 pm
Also because Day Cop is a core rule and so is whatever reviver role that you had. If I understand how dakarian is assigning roles, this is impossible unless you switched roles.
Finally, ToonyMan already scanned AN and got scum. There's only 1 scum, so how could we both be scum?
Which makes me wonder what game Org is playing at here? Are you a Paranoid Day Cop Reviver thing-a-ma-bob perhaps?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 10, 2009, 09:42:04 pm
2) Redirection. Hell, WEBBY is a redirector.
3) They're lying cunts, ALL OF THEM.
I'm thinking option 3.
Post by: Org on December 10, 2009, 09:43:39 pm
Maybe its Paranoid or something.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 09:44:19 pm
Also, webadict is dead (for now).
Post by: dakarian on December 10, 2009, 10:41:58 pm
Sidenote: my deadlines are almost always 'soft' in that the day formally ends when I write the end day text. If I'm late then consider it just some extra bonus time.
2. Actions that are redirected do NOT give warning. So yes, a cop will think they investigated the right person when they didn't.
2 Objections made. So long as they stand no request to End Day can be made.
To note: Ending the Day can ONLY occur once over 50% of the town votes on the same person. It is sort of a 'soft hammer'. Of course, that's moot so long as the Objections exist.
That said:
ToonyMan[1]: Apostolic Nihilist
Org[1]: Leafsnail
Apostolic Nihilist[2]: ToonyMan, JanusTwoface
JanusTwoFace[1]: Org
Not Voting: Pandarsenic
Deadline to End Day: Friday, 11:59pm EST
Requesting permission to remove the "must vote/action every 24 hour requirement".
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 10:45:29 pm
2. Actions that are redirected do NOT give warning. So yes, a cop will think they investigated the right person when they didn't.
So does anyone want to claim for a redirection that would make someone else responsible for Toony getting scum on AN?
Requesting permission to remove the "must vote/action every 24 hour requirement".
I'm ambivalent. Either way.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 10:49:22 pm
Anyway, I originally was going to swap with Toony to confirm his story. Due to clause 1, I didn't end up swapping with him.
Org claimed day cop, which I found immensely fishy. So I swapped with him instead.
Org is no day cop, I assure you! He was a "Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist!"
Which means he revives upon lynch. He can't prime people, but he can guardkill people. He can also ignite people (though with the inability to prime, it's sort of useless)
Vote Org.
That's all past tense, at least. He should have my role now and is powerless.
Dakarian, if I day-ignite will you display a message in the thread, similar to IRC? I can easily confirm.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 10:55:07 pm
Dakarian, if I day-ignite will you display a message in the thread, similar to IRC? I can easily confirm.Another that should be asked in PM... Grrrr...
Although if what you say is true (and Dakarian agrees), then you can confirm that you have the role you say you have making Org look somewhat guilty. Doesn't necessary guarantee anything, but it would (probably) be enough to convince me to switch my vote to Org.
Everyone else, what are your thoughts on this development?
ToonyMan, can you confirm that you were not swapped with?
Post by: dakarian on December 10, 2009, 11:02:29 pm
You suddenly hear a scream from a nearby window.
"OH SH***!"
Followed by a roaring flame. Luckily, no one was hurt.
(flavor note: Has happened IRL. No I was NOT the screamer)
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 11:10:43 pm
Org. What is your defense?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 10, 2009, 11:16:16 pm
I may have been at one point... :P
You suddenly hear a scream from a nearby window.
"OH SH***!"
Followed by a roaring flame. Luckily, no one was hurt.
(flavor note: Has happened IRL. No I was NOT the screamer)
So far as I can tell, Org's original role didn't have any way to redirect. So that means that someone else redirected Toony's investigation. We could use that person's claim their action to verify everything.
But for now, unvote until someone else comes to post.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 10, 2009, 11:44:58 pm
It's easier to just assume that Toony is paranoid, which would be par for this game.
No need to overcomplicate things. Org falseclaimed day cop in an effort to condemn you, Janus.
The only way Org's story could be correct without him lying would be if this happened:
Org's original role, Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist, was swapped with Day Cop earlier today. Org uses day cop's investigative ability. Org's role is then switched with Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist once again, returning him to his original role.
...this is ridiculous, because neither of those abilities have role-switching abilities.
Sure, it's possible that the day cop is actually a 'changeling paranoid day cop', but that would require Org be the one to engage the switch.
This puts him in an even worse situation. Day cop is much more pro-town than a false arsonist/guardkill role.
This is very clear-cut.
I'm going to un-object to a day-shortening.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 12:39:51 am
My vote for Org remains unless he refutes.
Post by: dakarian on December 11, 2009, 12:47:07 am
Org[3]: Leafsnail, Apostolic Nihilist, Pandarsenic
Apostolic Nihilist[1]: ToonyMan,
JanusTwoFace[1]: Org
Not Voting: JanusTwoface
Deadline: Friday, 9pm EST
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:36:52 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 07:45:00 am
I need to figure this out....
Post by: dakarian on December 11, 2009, 08:40:43 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 09:29:25 am
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 10:58:42 am
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 11:02:38 am
How many blasted times has he been switched?
Furthermore, Leaf. How were you switched? Was a third-party responsible, or did you switch upon performing an action on him?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 11:06:02 am
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 11:10:59 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 11:12:46 am
This is too much for me right now. I have a final in 4 hours, I'm going to stop procrastinating and figure this shit out later.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 11, 2009, 11:17:48 am
Also, vote for Org in case the day extension doesn't go through.
I'll (hopefully) be on for a bit later today.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 02:39:03 pm
Unvote.Dakarian, if I day-ignite will you display a message in the thread, similar to IRC? I can easily confirm.Another that should be asked in PM... Grrrr...
Although if what you say is true (and Dakarian agrees), then you can confirm that you have the role you say you have making Org look somewhat guilty. Doesn't necessary guarantee anything, but it would (probably) be enough to convince me to switch my vote to Org.
Everyone else, what are your thoughts on this development?
ToonyMan, can you confirm that you were not swapped with?
I wasn't swapped by anybody since earlier today.
I think right now, that my cop result was phony ie crazy and/or redirected, oh well.
I'm going to have to say that Org is scum.
Request Day Ending.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 02:39:39 pm
:-p
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 04:53:04 pm
Org, I want a FULL claim from you. I swapped roles with you day 1, so I know you were originally a "Combinationn [sic] Night Watchman Poisoner". Poisons and watches someone in one day action.I AM A COWARDLY RECURRING NIGHTMARE, STOLEN FROM PANDAR.
I am not scum
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 04:58:10 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 05:04:59 pm
D1 I was a 'Purple Philanthropist'.
N1 I was switched with (presumably Leafsnail) Day Changeling Cheat
D2 I swapped my role with Org, getting Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 05:09:11 pm
You are a Day Changeling Cheat.
You can permanently swap roles with another player. (Your teams don't change.) You act during the day, not at night. Each night you learn the role PM of a random role in the setup, but not who has it. Actions: (auto)cheat, (day)exchange
Learnt of the
Angel Top Pimpnight one. Night 2 I learnt of the
Once during the game, you may recieve a list of how many roleblockers are alive and who they are. You can protect another player. You will also revive upon death once per game. Actions: protect (day)census (1 use)
You have learned of someone's role:Day 2 I swapped with Org and got
Purple Philanthropist
You have the power of giving. At night, you may give another player a random one-shot action. Whenever someone targets you with an action, you switch roles with that player. Actions: giveability
You are now a Combinationn Night Watchman PoisonerAnd finally, today I became a
You have the ability to poison someone during the day. That player will die the next morning. You will also learn who targets that player with a night action the following night. Actions: (day)poisonwatch
Day Changeling CheatSo... yeah.
You can permanently swap roles with another player. (Your teams don't change.) You act during the day, not at night. Each night you learn the role PM of a random role in the setup, but not who has it. Actions: (auto)cheat, (day)exchange
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 05:12:01 pm
It's day 2. There has only been one night, if I recall correctly. There was no N0 this round.
Please fix your testimony immediately!
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 05:14:40 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 05:41:46 pm
N0 - Start game as Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist.
D1 - Turned into Changeling Green Goo One-Shot Cop.
N1 - Target Apostolic, get guilty.
D2 - Switched again, became Miller Network Robot Cheat. (?)
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 05:59:01 pm
I want to know how Org got BlackGuard Arsonist.
Also, interesting to note that we know of three role swapping roles so far.
1. Purple Philanthropist (swaps when targetted)
2. Changeling Green Goo One-Shot Cop
3. Day Changeling Cheat
No point in putting the pieces together until we have everything, though. I thought I had it figured out, but the presence of a third role-changer completely shatters it.
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 06:01:17 pm
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:04:27 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 06:06:26 pm
I swapped with Toony
When?
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:07:09 pm
Day 1I swapped with Toony
When?
Post by: ToonyMan on December 11, 2009, 06:08:33 pm
Role swaps, night-actions, etc.
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:10:38 pm
List of what has happened to you this Round please.Swap Toony
Role swaps, night-actions, etc.
Skip Night
Swapped to Changeling Cheat
Swap with Pandar, become Cowardly Recurring Nightmare
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 06:36:20 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 06:37:41 pm
DIDN'T YOU CLAIM DAYCOP?!
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:38:29 pm
Swapped with someone.
Swap Toony
Skip Night
Swapped to Changeling Cheat
Swap with Pandar, become Cowardly Recurring Nightmare
That is right. Missed one before.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 06:41:35 pm
And what was with the 'daycop' thing?!
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:42:04 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 06:44:28 pm
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 06:44:56 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 06:48:06 pm
...
This is not helping your credibility at all. I want to lynch you right now, I really do, but I'd rather hear from everyone else first.
Post by: Leafsnail on December 11, 2009, 06:51:56 pm
I got it yesterday,Then how did you revive?
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 07:12:44 pm
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 09:21:02 pm
Also, Org. Request a day extension, please, unless it's been granted already.
This should be easy once we find everyone's role -- something is not going to match up.
Post by: Org on December 11, 2009, 10:16:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 11, 2009, 11:55:30 pm
Then I got one-shot Day Poisonwatcher from Leafsnail. He's fishing for a good role to steal, guys. He has the fucking Changeling role.
Post by: Apostolic Nihilist on December 11, 2009, 11:59:03 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 12, 2009, 12:00:36 am
Post by: dakarian on December 12, 2009, 12:09:42 am
Pandarsenic, Combinationn Night Watchman Poisoner, and KING MAFIA, has been killed.
[/i]
Quote
Combination Night Watchman Poisoner
You have the ability to poison someone during the day. That player will die the next morning. You will also learn who targets that player with a night action the following night. Actions: (day)poisonwatch
With that, the Round 2 has ended!
Survivors:
Leafsnail
Toonyman
JanusTwoFace
Org
Apolistic Nihilist
Round 3 starting shortly.
Post by: dakarian on December 12, 2009, 12:10:22 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 12, 2009, 12:15:03 am
Post by: dakarian on December 12, 2009, 12:30:08 am
Simple examples: If you used a One Shot kill it's GONE even between rounds. Same for revive and other factors.
Easiest way to think of it is that you simply go for day to night to day over and over.
Post by: dakarian on December 12, 2009, 12:33:18 am
It is now Night, Night roles, send me your actions!
Post by: ToonyMan on December 12, 2009, 12:53:22 am
Post by: dakarian on December 13, 2009, 08:00:12 pm
That and the night was a very crazy one. 4 people, including King Mafia, has died.
Leafsnail Day Changeling Cheat, has died of poison.
Quote
You can permanently swap roles with another player. (Your teams don't change.) You act during the day, not at night. Each night you learn the role PM of a random role in the setup, but not who has it. Actions: (auto)cheat, (day)exchange
Toonyman, Vanilla Townie, has been killed in the night.
Quote
You are a vanilla townie. You have no powers.
Org, Cowardly Recurring Nightmare, and KING MAFIA, has been killed
Quote
Once during the game at any time, you can kill another player. This kill negates all forms of protection, and the target won't revive. You can't be detected by trackers or watchmen. You will revive once on death. You can also hide once, making you immune to all actions that night. Actions: hide (1 use) (x)eradicate (1 use)
Apostolic Nihilist, Combined Human Shield BlackGuard Arsonist, has been killed
Quote
You kill other players. You will also protect them. If someone (other than you) kills your target, you will be killed instead. If you are lynched, you will return to life. During the day, you may set a fire which kills all primed players. Actions: (DISABLED)prime (day)ignite Guardkill
With that, Round 3 has ended. Round 4 will start in a minute.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 13, 2009, 08:09:40 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 13, 2009, 08:11:36 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on December 13, 2009, 08:11:39 pm
Org was scum too so it's even cooler.
Post by: dakarian on December 13, 2009, 08:17:57 pm
Note 1: A consideration to allow up 7-9 players instead of just 7 is being considered.
Note 2: For new entries: Roles that can Kill will be put with higher restrictions. Be wary in picking such.
Currently running:
JanusTwoFace
MagmaDeath
RedWarrior0
GlyphGryph
Webadict
Mr.Person
Pandarsenic
It is now day.
Deadline: Wednesday, 9pm EST
Post by: webadict on December 13, 2009, 08:28:44 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 13, 2009, 08:30:42 pm
Post by: Org on December 13, 2009, 08:36:31 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 13, 2009, 08:46:38 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 13, 2009, 08:57:42 pm
Post by: Org on December 13, 2009, 09:07:53 pm
Post by: webadict on December 13, 2009, 09:12:44 pm
webadict, what the fuck happened last night?How should I know? I wasn't here for last Round, nor was there a Night for this Round.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 14, 2009, 04:08:45 pm
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
Post by: dakarian on December 14, 2009, 04:53:31 pm
GlyphGryph: Pandarsenic
Webadict: RedWarrior0
Not voted: MagmaDeath, GlyphGryph, Mr.Person
Note: GlyphGryph is in finals until Tuesday.
All others need to show up, however.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 14, 2009, 04:59:56 pm
vote MagmaDeath.
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
JanusTwoface, is that really a good reason to lynch? I could understand a random vote, but a LYNCH? I just don't know.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 14, 2009, 05:05:21 pm
vote MagmaDeath.
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
JanusTwoface, is that really a good reason to lynch? I could understand a random vote, but a LYNCH? I just don't know.
At the rate this has been going, there's not terribly much difference, is there? It's not like the rounds have been lasting long enough to actually get a good read on anyone.
And I'll probably back off if we get a good post and/or someone more scummy shows up.
Post by: MagmaDeath on December 14, 2009, 06:52:23 pm
webadict, what the fuck happened last night?Well, What is your take on last night, RedWarrior0?
Why do you think you survived?
Post by: webadict on December 14, 2009, 07:19:23 pm
vote MagmaDeath.But wasn't that from last Round, JanusTwoface?
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 14, 2009, 07:20:27 pm
And I know what you just did.
Post by: webadict on December 14, 2009, 07:48:49 pm
I survived because no killers targeted me or more doctors targeted me than killers. What happened last night: Toony got Ice Cream Man'd and four people died. Simple as that... Why didn't I think of Ice Cream Man in this crazy role set-up!
And I know what you just did.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 14, 2009, 07:51:48 pm
vote MagmaDeath.But wasn't that from last Round, JanusTwoface?
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
The first half was RVS / last round crap. The second half (not posting) was for this round.
Post by: webadict on December 14, 2009, 09:33:56 pm
... Perhaps.vote MagmaDeath.But wasn't that from last Round, JanusTwoface?
He managed to live through the carnage and hasn't posted yet. Seems like two excellent reasons for a lynching.
(Yes, I realize that I fell under the same criteria until I posted just now)
The first half was RVS / last round crap. The second half (not posting) was for this round.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 15, 2009, 11:57:24 am
GlyphGryph, what do you think of the number of deaths in this game?
I think its crazy but also pretty awesome. They make it very hard to get reliable reads on people, though.
RedWarrior, what is the Ice Cream man role, and how do you know that's what happened?
Post by: Mr.Person on December 15, 2009, 01:30:25 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 15, 2009, 04:52:19 pm
GlyphGryph, what do you think of the number of deaths in this game?
I think its crazy but also pretty awesome. They make it very hard to get reliable reads on people, though.
RedWarrior, what is the Ice Cream man role, and how do you know that's what happened?
Ice cream man can turn someone into a vanilla townie. I know that happened because WHO THE FUCK WOULD CHOOSE VANILLA TOWNIE IN A GAME LIKE THIS?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 15, 2009, 04:55:10 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 15, 2009, 05:13:57 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 15, 2009, 05:55:47 pm
Post by: webadict on December 15, 2009, 09:21:45 pm
Yes, who would do something like picking vanilla townie... <_< ... >_>
What are you implying, Webadict?What would you believe I'm implying?
Post by: dakarian on December 15, 2009, 09:22:26 pm
MagmaDeath: JanusTwoface
GlyphGryph: Pandarsenic
Webadict: RedWarrior0,
JanusTwoface: Mr.Person, Webadict,
RedWarrior0: MagmaDeath, GlyphGryph
Deadline: Webnesday 9pm EST
If you haven't voted since Monday, 12:01am EST, it might be best for you to do so, even if it means revoting for the same person. A day action is also acceptable.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 15, 2009, 11:23:23 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 16, 2009, 04:11:03 am
Hrmm. Weird sense of Deja Vu going on. D:
Post by: webadict on December 16, 2009, 01:07:08 pm
Revote webadict.Nothing else to say, eh?
But JanusTwoface for now.
Post by: Mr.Person on December 16, 2009, 01:23:30 pm
Revote webadict.
Unvote. That should count as a vote.
Why are you voting Webadict?
Post by: webadict on December 16, 2009, 01:24:32 pm
To avoid quickdeath! Duh!Revote webadict.
Unvote. That should count as a vote.
Why are you voting Webadict?
Post by: RedWarrior0 on December 16, 2009, 03:19:21 pm
If I'm gonna die, it's not going to be because I broke an activity rule.To avoid quickdeath! Duh!Revote webadict.
Unvote. That should count as a vote.
Why are you voting Webadict?
Post by: MagmaDeath on December 16, 2009, 03:31:04 pm
Revote RedWarrior0
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 16, 2009, 03:39:50 pm
Forgot to unvote GlyphGryph. His answer seems satisfactory.
Hrmm. Weird sense of Deja Vu going on. D:
Er, let's try that again.
Unvote GlyphGryph.
Post by: dakarian on December 16, 2009, 04:18:52 pm
MagmaDeath[1]: JanusTwoface
Webadict[1]: RedWarrior0,
JanusTwoface[1]: Webadict,
RedWarrior0[2]: MagmaDeath, GlyphGryph
Not Voting: Pandarsenic, Mr.Person
Wednesday: 9pm EST
Post by: webadict on December 16, 2009, 06:24:33 pm
Then what will it be? Perhaps being STABBED IN THE FLIPPIN' HEART?!?!If I'm gonna die, it's not going to be because I broke an activity rule.To avoid quickdeath! Duh!Revote webadict.
Unvote. That should count as a vote.
Why are you voting Webadict?
Also, you should probably do something about that whole... losing by a vote thing. Like... anything?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 16, 2009, 06:27:12 pm
Well, same here
Revote RedWarrior0
That's it? Anything to add to the (admittedly rather slow) conversation?
Post by: Mr.Person on December 16, 2009, 07:20:45 pm
Post by: webadict on December 16, 2009, 07:31:02 pm
Vote RedWarrior0. When I asked you why you were voting Webadict, I wanted to know why you were voting him in particular, not why you were voting in general.Technically... I answered that one for him...
Post by: dakarian on December 16, 2009, 09:50:47 pm
MagmaDeath[1]: JanusTwoface
Webadict[1]: RedWarrior0,
JanusTwoface[1]: Webadict,
RedWarrior0[3]: MagmaDeath, GlyphGryph, Mr.Person
RedWarrior0, Purple Philanthropist, has been lynched
Quote
You have the power of giving. At night, you may give another player a random one-shot action. Whenever someone targets you with an action, you switch roles with that player. Actions: giveability
It is now night. Night Roles, send me your choices.
Post by: dakarian on December 17, 2009, 05:01:04 pm
Mr.Person, Combined Controlled Azwolg Voteblocker, has been slain
Quote
You can block a player from voting the next day. The first time you use your action, you will kill Pandarsenic as well. Actions: voteblock
Survivors:
JanusTwoFace
MagmaDeath
GlyphGryph
Webadict
Pandarsenic
Deadline: Saturday, 9pm EST
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 17, 2009, 05:09:55 pm
In any case, that was a much calmer night than the last few at least.
MagmaDeath, I'm still suspicious of you. You haven't had many posts in the last few days. All you did was recast your vote on RedWarrior (second vote and he turned out town, not that that's terribly surprising)
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 17, 2009, 05:16:16 pm
Also, that role would be so broken if he reached 3p at night with me - he voteblocks the other person, I get autokilled, and then he's the only person with a vote the next day. ._.
Post by: dakarian on December 17, 2009, 05:22:25 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 17, 2009, 05:29:39 pm
Quote
Also, that role would be so broken if he reached 3p at night with me - he voteblocks the other person, I get autokilled, and then he's the only person with a vote the next day. ._.
I suddenly wonder what would happen with a simultaneous kill of all remaining players (say, three vig players left, one the king, all kill the person to their left). Does everyone lose?
Also, if someone is daykilled after they vote, does it go away?
This game makes me think of all SORTs of interesting questions. :P
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 17, 2009, 05:35:36 pm
For the day kill vs vote, generally yes, but dakarian would have to answer that for this game.
Post by: webadict on December 17, 2009, 05:42:33 pm
What the fuck, Mr.Person. You chose Azwolg?Well you didn't. Stop crying.
Also, that role would be so broken if he reached 3p at night with me - he voteblocks the other person, I get autokilled, and then he's the only person with a vote the next day. ._.
Which part was the kill Mr.Person part? The Azwolg?MagmaDeath has pretty much disappeared from other games as well. He might need a replacement.
In any case, that was a much calmer night than the last few at least.
MagmaDeath, I'm still suspicious of you. You haven't had many posts in the last few days. All you did was recast your vote on RedWarrior (second vote and he turned out town, not that that's terribly surprising)
Post by: dakarian on December 17, 2009, 05:56:50 pm
The goal of King Mafia is to be the only one ALIVE. As such, if everyone dies, then he lost and a new round starts. Note that, technically, the town doesn't lose since their goal is to keep the King from winning long enough for THEM to be King, even if it means dying and rejoining asap.
Daykilling someone does, indeed, remove that person's vote.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 17, 2009, 06:08:07 pm
- If Mr.Person picked it, it probably meant nothing.
- If the mod picked it, could it be meant to mess with us? Or just random.
- If Pandarsenic somehow influenced it, that would be an awesome (albeit risky) way to throw us off track.
Basically, I'm wondering if perhaps we should look more carefully into Pandarsenic.
Thoughts?
Post by: webadict on December 17, 2009, 06:10:33 pm
Hmm. I wonder if Mr.Person's target means anything? It depends really on who picked it:More than likely, it's random. I'm not entirely sure though.
- If Mr.Person picked it, it probably meant nothing.
- If the mod picked it, could it be meant to mess with us? Or just random.
- If Pandarsenic somehow influenced it, that would be an awesome (albeit risky) way to throw us off track.
Basically, I'm wondering if perhaps we should look more carefully into Pandarsenic.
Thoughts?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 17, 2009, 06:13:58 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 17, 2009, 06:16:50 pm
Post by: webadict on December 17, 2009, 06:22:39 pm
I'm not sure about all of the roles from XylBot. I'm was thinking that you could have chosen a role that could have influenced that target of the Azwolg-iness...Such as?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 17, 2009, 06:30:47 pm
Post by: webadict on December 17, 2009, 07:20:04 pm
Honestly, I have no idea. There are some crazy things on there. Like the Azwolg itself. I didn't actually know about it until Mr.Person was 1 and ended up dead. It just came to mind.Yeah, I think it's just a punishment for picking roles that can drastically affect the outcome.
Post by: dakarian on December 17, 2009, 08:52:33 pm
i.e. If part of your role was Twin (whether you chose it or I added it) who you would be twin to would be random.
Random = Random.org
Post by: dakarian on December 18, 2009, 09:22:54 pm
Everyone has less than 3 Hours to Action/Vote or else they recieve either the 1-chance prod or DEATH.
Post by: Org on December 18, 2009, 09:24:13 pm
Post by: webadict on December 19, 2009, 12:01:07 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 19, 2009, 01:43:40 am
Uh... magmadeath
Because a lynch is better than a no lynch in this case! And a non-modkill is better than a modkill.
Post by: dakarian on December 19, 2009, 03:08:19 am
MagmaDeath: JanusTwoface. GlyphGryph
Vote/action deadline reached. Prods have been sent.
Next Deadline to vote/action: Saturday 11:59pm EST
(yes, the game day ends before that deadline.. so I'll either need a day action, a vote, or-if the day ends-your night action by that time)
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 19, 2009, 03:28:02 am
The sum total of the days discussion:
- Discuss everyone dying at once for a post or three
- Discuss the (vague) possibility Azwolg being more than it appeared
- Only the Mod posts (among players in the game) yesterday (RL)
- Send out prods
I guess I'll go ahead and ask, is there enough interest to continue this? I'll admit to more or less completely losing interest, but I guess if people are active again, I'll keep on. At least until until I either end up dead or King Mafia anyways.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 19, 2009, 06:32:01 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 19, 2009, 09:57:11 am
Hopefully I'll be back on top of things soon, but I dont know.
Actually, I've noticed ALL the games I'm in have been running pretty slow. Maybe it has something to do with the leadup to the Holidays?
Post by: webadict on December 19, 2009, 11:43:01 am
I'll put in a vote for Attendance....? Dude, I need an answer.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 19, 2009, 12:25:55 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 19, 2009, 09:14:10 pm
Quote
At night, you may use the power of karma on another player, duplicating their night action against them. When you die, you can turn another player into Turquoise Goo. Actions: karma
It is now night. Night roles, send me your choices
Post by: dakarian on December 21, 2009, 09:41:26 pm
No one was killed this night.
Survivors:
JanusTwoFace
GlyphGryph
Webadict
Pandarsenic
Deadline: Wednesday 9PM EST
Time to vote/act: Tuesday 9PM EST
Some of you already received a Prod. That is your last warning.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 01:07:57 am
Someone explain to me why no one died!
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 22, 2009, 01:10:39 am
Can anyone besides me explain the lack of a night kill? Since I no longer have my abilities (due to being Turquoised), I can go ahead and claim it. I used to be an Angel Top Pimp.
Quote from: Angel Top Pimp
Once during the game, you may recieve a list of how many roleblockers are alive and who they are. You can protect another player. You will also revive upon death once per game. Actions: protect (day)census (1 use)
I used my protection last night, so if nothing else happens, I know who's not the King Mafia. So, anyone have anything else?
Psuedo-edit: I'll take it that GlyphGryph had nothing to do with it then.
Post by: webadict on December 22, 2009, 02:49:28 am
Hmm. Good morning.I can confirm this. I'm a Combined Roleblocker X-Morpher. I morphed into JanusTwoface first day.
Can anyone besides me explain the lack of a night kill? Since I no longer have my abilities (due to being Turquoised), I can go ahead and claim it. I used to be an Angel Top Pimp.Quote from: Angel Top PimpOnce during the game, you may recieve a list of how many roleblockers are alive and who they are. You can protect another player. You will also revive upon death once per game. Actions: protect (day)census (1 use)
I used my protection last night, so if nothing else happens, I know who's not the King Mafia. So, anyone have anything else?
Psuedo-edit: I'll take it that GlyphGryph had nothing to do with it then.
The question yesterday I wanted to know was if Pandarsenic was able to vote, because Mr.Person was an Azwolg Votestealer, which means if Pandarsenic blocked Mr.Person (I used the power yesterday and it came up him), then he couldn't have done the kill. But, I never saw a real vote from him, so, he might have been saved by JanusTwoface? (I didn't protect him.)
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 10:23:49 am
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I used my protection last night, so if nothing else happens, I know who's not the King Mafia. So, anyone have anything else?
Whats interesting, is with only one scum theres no reason not to believe you! Either your scum, thus anyone you name is town, or you're town, and thus there's no reason for you to lie.
So who is it, exactly, we should avoid killing? And how is it you know? Because I'm not entirely sure how your power would help you out there.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 22, 2009, 01:47:20 pm
Whats interesting, is with only one scum theres no reason not to believe you! Either your scum, thus anyone you name is town, or you're town, and thus there's no reason for you to lie.
This is not completely untrue. I cannot completely prove that I am not the King; however, I can prove that I was Angel Top Pimp (Webadict confirmed it) and thus had the power to protect.
Assuming (and I hope that this is a fair assumption) that the King choose someone to kill last night, that either he was blocked or the target was protected. If nothing else comes up, I know who I protected and thus the one (other than me) player that cannot be King.
I would like to hear from Pandarsenic if he did anything interesting last night, because at least yesterday he was a roleblocker.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 22, 2009, 02:34:41 pm
That's why certain Azwolg bitches among us are no longer living.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 03:59:14 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 22, 2009, 05:42:27 pm
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 07:38:02 pm
I'm a modified vig with some secret that only triggers when someone else (not me), kills webadict. He's ALSO the person I most suspect of being the scum, based on a number of unsubstantiated hunches, but I haven't tried to kill him because I want to find out my secret.
So maybe a lynch will work - vote Webadict.
In addition, lets get some consensus - we have two people who can kill, and it seems at least two people who can protect or block. If we get three night killers into some lylo situation, we can do a circle kill to make sure that the King can not avoid death. Since he can only switch himself and choose to leave a townie alive (or not) then he is guaranteed to die.
But that requires us to have a third person with an NK, which we might not have.
FAKE EDIT: God damn it, that plan is stupid and dumb. Panda roleblocks in addition to being a killer, and the scum might have a revive. Nevermind that. I'm still posting anyways, cause someone might have a better idea off of it and I feel like I should post something.
Post by: webadict on December 22, 2009, 08:56:20 pm
Hmm... we seem to have lost a lot of momentum. I don't even know what to think about people, so I'll start sharing info in the hopes it could be useful.And what makes you think there are two killers?
I'm a modified vig with some secret that only triggers when someone else (not me), kills webadict. He's ALSO the person I most suspect of being the scum, based on a number of unsubstantiated hunches, but I haven't tried to kill him because I want to find out my secret.
So maybe a lynch will work - vote Webadict.
In addition, lets get some consensus - we have two people who can kill, and it seems at least two people who can protect or block. If we get three night killers into some lylo situation, we can do a circle kill to make sure that the King can not avoid death. Since he can only switch himself and choose to leave a townie alive (or not) then he is guaranteed to die.
But that requires us to have a third person with an NK, which we might not have.
FAKE EDIT: God damn it, that plan is stupid and dumb. Panda roleblocks in addition to being a killer, and the scum might have a revive. Nevermind that. I'm still posting anyways, cause someone might have a better idea off of it and I feel like I should post something.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 09:24:47 pm
Assuming he's not mafia, thats actually 3 killers, minimum.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 22, 2009, 11:02:32 pm
Otherwise, I can *choose* my kill target and no roleblock occurs.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 22, 2009, 11:18:39 pm
Question, any idea if that auto-random block-kill goes off if you choose to mafia NK instead of using ability kill?
Cause if so, that would be a damned powerful King ability...
Post by: webadict on December 22, 2009, 11:27:29 pm
I only block if I !none.Then you probably blocked Mr.Person. Otherwise, you'd be dead or someone protected you, which means you didn't kill and still could vote. Assuming you're not lying, it makes sense.
Otherwise, I can *choose* my kill target and no roleblock occurs.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 22, 2009, 11:49:58 pm
Post by: webadict on December 22, 2009, 11:50:34 pm
Mr.Person may have not triggered his Azwolginess. It doesn't occur until he uses his ability.... I thought his Azwolgness was a forced part OF his ability.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 22, 2009, 11:51:31 pm
Post by: webadict on December 22, 2009, 11:55:59 pm
He might not have used it - he could either have lacked a suitable candidate for his power or he might have wanted me to stay alive.I thought that part activated to matter what...
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 23, 2009, 12:06:14 am
Post by: webadict on December 23, 2009, 09:46:58 am
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 23, 2009, 08:11:25 pm
request day extension
I protected webadict. Meaning I'm almost sure that GlyphGryph or Pandarsenic is scum. Leaning towards GlyphGryph now but would lynch or no lynch be better with 4 and two vigs?
Post by: dakarian on December 23, 2009, 08:46:01 pm
Webadict[1]: GlyphGryph
1 extension heard. Extending 1 hour.
Deadline: 10pm EST
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 23, 2009, 09:22:18 pm
'cause I'm guessing I can't second my own day extension.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 23, 2009, 09:59:33 pm
We're not going to let a valuable player get lynched because nobody wants to play over the holidays.
Post by: dakarian on December 23, 2009, 10:17:00 pm
Deadline: monday, 9pm EST.
All attendance requirements have been scaled back.
End Day on 50% still on the table.
Post by: webadict on December 24, 2009, 02:05:33 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2009, 10:05:21 am
Webadict, I've been watching and listening, even if I haven't been active hunting. It' s not like anybody else really has either. Even beyond the unlocking my special ability, something about you hasn't been sitting well with me. But as of now, I don't really think you're scum, and if I live through this game you'll still have the chance of dying in the future.
Unvote, vote JanusTwoFace
If you protected web, then Panda is probably the one that tried to kill him. I tried to kill YOU, so who protected you? And didn't the x-morph ability block you last night anyways?
You may have confirmed a role you no longer have, but I don't trust your explanations of your actions. You may just be wrong, but you seem off to me.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2009, 10:06:37 am
Post by: webadict on December 24, 2009, 11:32:00 am
Can't kill you or it doesn't work.My x-morph only blocks if used at Night.
Webadict, I've been watching and listening, even if I haven't been active hunting. It' s not like anybody else really has either. Even beyond the unlocking my special ability, something about you hasn't been sitting well with me. But as of now, I don't really think you're scum, and if I live through this game you'll still have the chance of dying in the future.
Unvote, vote JanusTwoFace
If you protected web, then Panda is probably the one that tried to kill him. I tried to kill YOU, so who protected you? And didn't the x-morph ability block you last night anyways?
You may have confirmed a role you no longer have, but I don't trust your explanations of your actions. You may just be wrong, but you seem off to me.
And I protected JanusTwoface. Didn't you listen?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 24, 2009, 11:32:26 am
Nonedit: Ooooorr it might be invalid?
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2009, 02:42:19 pm
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 24, 2009, 03:33:34 pm
Also, MAGMA, what is going on? Where have you been? What's your opinion on all this?
MagmaDeath, Turquoise Deva, has been lynched
So GlyphGryph targeted me and webadict protected me. I protected webadict. Pandarsenic, who did you target? (or did you none)
Still leaning towards GlyphGryph. A little discussion before voting to end the day though, por favor.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2009, 04:26:48 pm
Okay, I have officially not been paying enough attention to this game in addition to being an idiot. As long as I'm gonna make stupid mistakes, it might actually be better to have me out of the way so people can start trying to find the king.
Vote GlyphGryph since my last one was for a player who isn't here.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 24, 2009, 05:52:27 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 24, 2009, 08:13:31 pm
1. Your replacement will come in directly, swapping your spot with theirs. thye would acquire your role, though if those choose to come in. The round will keep going otherwise.
For a requested replacement, you won't be able to join back in until your replacement dies, but after that you can rejoin. If you que in early you just remain in the backend of the que until that point.
Of course, since the game is on semi-hibernation due to the holiday, you can just choose to wait it out and use the weekend to recover. I know I've been VERY messy in my games lately due to the holiday (and when the host gets messy, everyone suffers...which is a perk to being host)
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 25, 2009, 11:34:15 am
Post by: dakarian on December 25, 2009, 01:54:12 pm
If it helps, know that BM6 is about over, so that's one less game to manage.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 27, 2009, 11:43:56 pm
If GlyphGryph is King, yay us. We win the round and move on.
If not, webadict appearantly has some protection up his sleeve, so we still could be in luck. Of course, he could be the King himself, but if that's the case, we're more or less screwed anyways because we really don't have anything to go on.
So vote for day ending.
Post by: webadict on December 28, 2009, 12:04:32 am
Post by: dakarian on December 28, 2009, 01:31:48 am
GlyphGryph[3]: Webadict, JanusTwoface, GlyphGryph
2 votes to end heard. 1 one will end the day.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 28, 2009, 02:39:51 am
Bah to you! Much as I want to stop playing, I can't let that happen!
UNVOTE vote Webadict
I'll still probably die anyways, but at least I tried, right? (I just hope I'm right about him if it does make a difference. If its not, that will suck. It may very well be Panda after all, but something about that last post... rrrgh, its just TOO scummy sounding with the strategy talk)
Post by: Org on December 28, 2009, 10:11:01 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 28, 2009, 10:39:28 pm
Day is ending shortly. Until then, consider it still day.
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2009, 12:35:25 am
Craaaap, its web! Your the goddamn scum king, and you're going to win this thing! I'm out, he NKs Panda instead of protecting you, and he WINS! Nooooo! With your crappy confirms and certainty about who isn't scum and other things I've probably missed but I haven't been paying enough attention to this thread to notice!Okay, first of all, that is just WIFOM, since you can say this about everyone. Yes, THAT situation works. So does JanusTwoface being scum. So does Pandarsenic being scum. So does you being scum. That's the point of the game. The point is that everyone COULD be scum, and that's why we find them.
Bah to you! Much as I want to stop playing, I can't let that happen!
UNVOTE vote Webadict
I'll still probably die anyways, but at least I tried, right? (I just hope I'm right about him if it does make a difference. If its not, that will suck. It may very well be Panda after all, but something about that last post... rrrgh, its just TOO scummy sounding with the strategy talk)
Second of all, if I were scum, that would be a stupid situation, since it'd be easier for me to simply protect JanusTwoface and lynch Pandarsenic tomorrow. I'm actually hoping you're the scum instead of Pandarsenic, for WIFOM's sake.
Third of all, you really DO need to pay a bit more attention.
What I know is I'm town. What I also know is that JanusTwoface is a protecter. I KNOW this, because he claimed it (Rules out twin), and I morphed into him and have the exact same role. I know that you tried to kill him. I know that you were the only person to try to kill (Let's exclude the forced kills), and you did so at 4 players, which is a scummy vig claim because if you had missed, you would've lost the game for everyone, as long as the scum killed anyone else (Pandarsenic's is supposedly forced.)
The reason why I think it might be Pandarsenic is for the same reason. He chose someone to kill and they aren't dead. JanusTwoface protected me. I protected him. We both managed to live. I'm not going to doubt that JanusTwoface is town because of that. But his kills are supposedly forced. He HAS a reason to kill, even if it's one like that.
I know Pandarsenic can't win even IF his !none ability randomly roleblocks and kills. He can't kill either of us because we're both protected, and blocking the one only stops protection on the other. He can't win.
Therefore, it only makes sense that it is, obviously, GlyphGryph or Pandarsenic.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 01:26:11 am
EXTENSION PLEASE
And I (tried) to kill at four players partly because I'm an idiot, but also because I assumed there would be a lot more killing going on like in previous games and that may very well have been our last night - since we don't need surviving town to win, just dead scum, its not exactly the worst idea for all kill ability town to choose to kill on what very well may be the last night. Since Pandarsenic had a forced kill, then the game would have been over whether I had tried to kill or not (if no one had been protected).
I believe Janus is protector, you don't have to try to convince me of that.
Speaking of which, actually, I'm wondering about Janus's comment
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 01:26:52 am
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 01:30:10 am
Janus originally commented about no lynch.
It seems to me we'd be better off doing that - if you both protect each other, then panda can only kill me, I can only kill panda, if there's a survivor you vote them off. It seems a lot better for the town than voting me off, honestly.
Especially since I promise to try not to kill - worst case is that I am scum, and choose the same target as Panda (who should be choosing me anyway) and we kill one of you through protection - but then its still 2 vs 1 scum, and know you know for sure I'm scum.
so Unvote, vote for No Lynch
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 01:43:26 am
I don't want that to happen - if we no lynch, at least the odds are in our favour.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 29, 2009, 04:19:36 am
Actually, if you all believe me to be town (An enormous demand, I know) then we can more-or-less break the game. However, this requires more faith than I can ask of you in good conscience.
Post by: dakarian on December 29, 2009, 08:37:39 am
GlyphGryph[2]: Webadict, JanusTwoface
No Lynch[1]: GlyphGryph
new deadline: Tuesday 11pm EST
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 11:34:32 am
The plan is thus - tonight, I try to kill Janus, Panda tries to kill Webadict, and we have the following outcomes or we get the same state as today.
Lets say I'm scum
With Web and Janus protecting each other, I can either kill Panda, Janus or fail to kill web.
If I do kill Panda, we get:
-Janus, Web, Me
-Possibilities: Gryphscum. You guys pretty much know I'm the scum, I get lynched, game over.
If I force the kill on Web:
-Panda, Me, Janus
-Posibilities: Gyphscum, or Janusscum (killed instead of protecting), Panda is townie. I will volunteer to be lynched, in the night Panda kills Janus, we win.
Lets say panda is scum
Same as above, but reversed.
Lets say web is scum
He can nightkill anyone of his choice - but if he does, Janus will die.
If he kills me/panda:
-Panda/Gryph, Web
-Possibilities:Webscum. Nolynch during the day, Panda/Gryph kills him at night.
If he kills Janus:
-Web, Me, Janus
-Posibilities: Pandascum, or Webscum (killed instead of protecting), I am townie. Panda will volunteer to be lynched, in the night I kill Web, we win.
Lets say Janus is scum
Same as above, but reversed.
So if we do this, we can't lose.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 29, 2009, 12:59:59 pm
Can anyone besides me explain the lack of a night kill? Since I no longer have my abilities (due to being Turquoised), I can go ahead and claim it. I used to be an Angel Top Pimp.
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2009, 01:37:12 pm
Methinks you (and webadict) may have missed this:... Well, crap. I didn't notice it.Can anyone besides me explain the lack of a night kill? Since I no longer have my abilities (due to being Turquoised), I can go ahead and claim it. I used to be an Angel Top Pimp.
Thinking about it logistically, which I know isn't a popular town tactic but still.Okay, well, now we have to rethink that re-thought-out plan, because you have to remember that Pandarsenic supposedly has to kill or he will randomly do so, as well as block somebody. Which means No Lynching would lead to two people dead. If neither of those are scum, we lose. However, if the remaining townie can kill, it doesn't matter who's left, because it's a tie, which likely just ends with Mafia losing.
The plan is thus - tonight, I try to kill Janus, Panda tries to kill Webadict, and we have the following outcomes or we get the same state as today.
Lets say I'm scum
With Web and Janus protecting each other, I can either kill Panda, Janus or fail to kill web.
If I do kill Panda, we get:
-Janus, Web, Me
-Possibilities: Gryphscum. You guys pretty much know I'm the scum, I get lynched, game over.
If I force the kill on Web:
-Panda, Me, Janus
-Posibilities: Gyphscum, or Janusscum (killed instead of protecting), Panda is townie. I will volunteer to be lynched, in the night Panda kills Janus, we win.
Lets say panda is scum
Same as above, but reversed.
Lets say web is scum
He can nightkill anyone of his choice - but if he does, Janus will die.
If he kills me/panda:
-Panda/Gryph, Web
-Possibilities:Webscum. Nolynch during the day, Panda/Gryph kills him at night.
If he kills Janus:
-Web, Me, Janus
-Posibilities: Pandascum, or Webscum (killed instead of protecting), I am townie. Panda will volunteer to be lynched, in the night I kill Web, we win.
Lets say Janus is scum
Same as above, but reversed.
So if we do this, we can't lose.
But, what if the remaining scum is Pandarsenic and he just blocks your kill? What if you have an additional ability equal to that? How on Earth are we supposed to know? Either of you could be a Redirecter, or anything.
That's why I don't think there's a way to break this system. First of all, I didn't realize Janus lost his ability. Second of all, that assumes the scum have told us the truth about their role. And third of all, it wastes a lynch we need to win.
Likely it's lylo right now, with a chance to win with abilities, UNLESS we lynch you or Pandarsenic, in which case the other can't win because I'll protect Janus, and I'll be able to revive. Ergo, we win no matter what.
Post by: Alexhans on December 29, 2009, 02:02:16 pm
Post by: webadict on December 29, 2009, 02:12:25 pm
Wtf is this? Posting to read later (and maybe join...)You could probably join in next Round.
Post by: GlyphGryph on December 29, 2009, 06:22:27 pm
but if you're really reviver, and you turn out to be scum, there's honestly not a whole lot we can do about you winning.
Pandarsenic, I have to ask - since Janus's protect didnt go off, who DID you target last night? Or did you random?
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 29, 2009, 06:36:33 pm
Pandarsenic, I have to ask - since Janus's protect didnt go off, who DID you target last night? Or did you random?
IIRC, Webadict said that he protected me.
Post by: dakarian on December 29, 2009, 09:48:06 pm
GlyphGryph[2]: Webadict, JanusTwoface
No Lynch[1]: GlyphGryph
deadline: Tuesday 11pm EST
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 29, 2009, 10:11:11 pm
I seriously doubt webadict is scum, because he claimed to protect me and Pandarsenic claimed to try to kill me. I'll assume that town players tell the truth when they claim (I think this is a fair assumption for webadict and Pandarsenic). If webadict was scum, he wouldn't have protected me (most likely) and I would be dead right now.
I doubt (although not as strongly) that Pandarsenic is scum. At the least, it's unlikely that he lied about his role as I can verify most of it with my (former) role.
GlyphGryph seems most scummy, both by this logic and by the way you're posting. If webadict or Pandarsenic wants me to go into it, I can, but consider it a gut feeling for now.
Long story shorts, the day is scheduled to end in about an hour with a GlyphGryph lynch and I really don't have a problem with that.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 29, 2009, 10:46:23 pm
Post by: dakarian on December 29, 2009, 11:50:06 pm
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You are a lone werewolf, terrorizing the town and looking to form a new pack. You will show up as 'town' to cops. But if Webadict dies you will become a Batman. Note that nightkilling him yourself will NOT Evoke Batman. Actions: Kill
It is now night. Night roles, send me your choices.
Post by: dakarian on December 30, 2009, 09:04:03 am
Webadict has been killed in the night....
..then came back to life!
Survivors:
JanusTwoface
Webadict
Pandarsenic
With 3 people remaining, 'soft hammer' is now in effect. When 2 votes are placed on the same person, a 1 hour deadline will come into effect starting from the second vote. Exactly 1 hour after the post containing the second vote, the person is HAMMERED and the lynch is made, regardless of whether I am there to post or not.
Unlike most games, though, No lynch is an option and can be hammered in the same manner.
Good luck.
Post by: webadict on December 30, 2009, 10:37:16 am
What happens in the event of a tie?
Post by: webadict on December 30, 2009, 11:58:05 am
Now I'm confused.
Post by: Org on December 30, 2009, 01:24:56 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 30, 2009, 05:29:10 pm
Post by: webadict on December 31, 2009, 12:03:23 am
Did you roleblock last Night Pandarsenic?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 31, 2009, 12:04:16 am
Post by: webadict on December 31, 2009, 12:21:08 am
No. I targeted you because I didn't want to stop your protect.Okay, but why didn't you try to block?
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 31, 2009, 05:03:10 am
I kill: That person dies
I !none: Someone is picked at random and is killed and roleblocked.
Post by: webadict on December 31, 2009, 09:13:37 am
Er... are you sure I understand:Okay, then who do you believe is scum?
I kill: That person dies
I !none: Someone is picked at random and is killed and roleblocked.
Post by: JanusTwoface on December 31, 2009, 04:35:39 pm
Anyways, I noned by way of being goo.
I know I'm not King, which means webadict or Pandarsenic is. Web claimed to protect me and revive (I think) and Pandarsenic attacked webadict. Which means to me that either Pandarsenic is King or Webadict is and he didn't use his kill.
Mod, rule clarification: Can a player use two active roles in the same night if they have them?
Post by: dakarian on December 31, 2009, 07:18:45 pm
If your role says nothing about it, assume only one action a night.
That goes for King Mafia's mafiakill as well.
Post by: Pandarsenic on December 31, 2009, 10:11:30 pm
I am scum:
I kill Web, Web protects me or Janus and revives.
Web is scum:
I kill Web, he revives and !nones or protects someone, but if we mislynch Janus today, I can !none and Web will be roleblocked and executed as the only possible target of my randomshot.
Janus is scum:
I kill Web, he protects me & Janus kills me, or Janus !nones.
I have a little more information but I can't give that away yet. However, if Web protected Janus I may have to.
So Web, who did you protect?
Post by: webadict on January 01, 2010, 08:51:08 pm
Also, I don't know why you didn't kill JanusTwoface if you thought I was going to protect him. It seems counter intuitive. So, I'd assume that you had no other choice but to attack me.
Sure, you could use the 50% shot, and I understand why you might not as town, but I DON'T understand why you attacked me, instead of attacking JanusTwoface, unless, perhaps, you're trying to cover all of your bases. I don't really think so though, because that'd be a really off-base chance.
You SAY you didn't want to stop my protect, but why didn't you think you could use it?
Webadict, what is your role? Did you end up with mine? Or can you revive more than once?I don't have a revive anymore. I'm still an Angel Top Pimp but without the revive.
Anyways, I noned by way of being goo.
I know I'm not King, which means webadict or Pandarsenic is. Web claimed to protect me and revive (I think) and Pandarsenic attacked webadict. Which means to me that either Pandarsenic is King or Webadict is and he didn't use his kill.
Mod, rule clarification: Can a player use two active roles in the same night if they have them?
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 01, 2010, 09:04:39 pm
I am a Cheerleader Commando, and I either kill+roleblock at random or I target my kill and gain my kill immunity.
This doesn't narrow things down for me at all, unfortunately.
Post by: webadict on January 02, 2010, 11:56:07 am
Seriously, this is ridiculous. We really need to stop stalling games. Pandarsenic, why did you find it necessary to hide being a Commando?
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 02, 2010, 01:02:56 pm
I really did think it was GG, oh well. I'm not King. If webadict were king, he none'd the last two nights. I doubt it.
vote Pandarsenic
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 03, 2010, 02:19:00 am
Janus probably thought it was GG because he targeted me.
Whichever of you gives King Mafia the win is an idiot and should be shot. Just for reference.
Post by: dakarian on January 04, 2010, 08:58:10 am
I make my way into the forums during christmas and new years and see nothing, but when I finally need to take a few days off for the weekend one of my games ends it's day early. Jeesh!
In any case, the hammer lands. Pandarsenic, Split personality Commando Killer Cheerleader, has been lynched.
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You can kill other players. If you choose 'none', you will automatically block and kill a random player instead. If you perform your kill and your target dies, you will be immune to kills that night and day. If you act automatically, you will be immune to roleblocks. Actions: kill (auto)block
As of this moment, there is nothing stopping King Mafia from winning. The vote is now tied between him and the other and there is no risk of the King being nightkilled. Thus:
Night 4: JanusTwoface, Turquoise Goo was killed.
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When you die, you can turn another player into Turquoise Goo.
With that, Webadict, Turquoise Goo, and KING MAFIA has won King of the Mafia!
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2010, 09:18:52 am
I'll try and think of a sensible response to this game later.
Post by: dakarian on January 04, 2010, 09:24:42 am
Now, for those that wonder what madness occured behind the scenes, the entire game's events can be seen in QuickChat (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/EQCZ99gbFsd). A few notables:
1. JanusTwoface played the entire game from beginning to end.
2. Round 2 has got to be the most entertaining round..meh, ever in my time of hosting any game.
3. Round 3 was busy as anything, and a good example of how masses of killing roles creates a meh round.
4. I'll admit that Pandarsenic's last role was given too much power. It forced Webadict to have to get him lynched or else he'd lose. He handled it well though. Btw, technically the role required him to CHOOSE none in order for the block-kill to happen and he didn't do anything at all. If he had Noned, btw, he would've targetted Webadict (which would've been stopped by Janus' protect, but would've caused Janus to be killed by Glyph, which would've triggered the revive)
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2010, 09:33:10 am
Post by: Leafsnail on January 04, 2010, 09:36:09 am
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2010, 12:08:15 pm
And that ends the second most complex game for me to host. MEH! Thank yous to everyone that participated, Congrats, to Webadict, and apologies to those who were still in the queue.Technically, I could lynch Janus and hope that the 50% chance Janus had to turn Pandarsenic into a Turquoise Goo was enough. I was really hoping other though, so I went with the sure bet. The fact that Pandarsenic lied a lot was a nice thing to turn around on him.
Now, for those that wonder what madness occured behind the scenes, the entire game's events can be seen in QuickChat (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/EQCZ99gbFsd). A few notables:
1. JanusTwoface played the entire game from beginning to end.
2. Round 2 has got to be the most entertaining round..meh, ever in my time of hosting any game.
3. Round 3 was busy as anything, and a good example of how masses of killing roles creates a meh round.
4. I'll admit that Pandarsenic's last role was given too much power. It forced Webadict to have to get him lynched or else he'd lose. He handled it well though. Btw, technically the role required him to CHOOSE none in order for the block-kill to happen and he didn't do anything at all. If he had Noned, btw, he would've targetted Webadict (which would've been stopped by Janus' protect, but would've caused Janus to be killed by Glyph, which would've triggered the revive)
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 04, 2010, 01:49:50 pm
This was a neat experiment, but I don't think I'd join another. There's really not terribly much scum hunting with only one scum and such quick turnaround. Also, I burned out after living through so many rounds... :P
Anyways, shiny...
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2010, 01:55:47 pm
Anyhow, my problem was Pandarsenic being unkillable. That was ridiculous!
Post by: JanusTwoface on January 04, 2010, 02:00:26 pm
dakarian, did the game end post originally say I was still an Angel Top Pimp and then get edited? Because I saw something about that in my email and was a little confused.
Post by: GlyphGryph on January 04, 2010, 02:07:01 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 04, 2010, 03:04:04 pm
No, because you SAW NOTHING!
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 04, 2010, 04:30:07 pm
Post by: Org on January 04, 2010, 07:36:01 pm
Post by: Org on January 04, 2010, 07:36:43 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on January 04, 2010, 07:50:27 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 04, 2010, 07:53:10 pm
Oh, it kind of stops working fter someone wins as King. You kinda know they're mafia.
Now webby will be insufferable again. ;)
Post by: webadict on January 04, 2010, 09:23:28 pm
Right, let's dethrone hi-Go avatar!
Oh, it kind of stops working fter someone wins as King. You kinda know they're mafia.
Now webby will be insufferable again. ;)
Post by: Alexhans on January 05, 2010, 07:50:41 am
Guys... You probably failed to follow the most fundamental rule of mafia...
If Alexhans or Solifuge are not playing, Webadict is ALWAYS scum. Always.
Post by: dakarian on January 05, 2010, 09:21:33 am
As such I'm not sure if this should go again or else should be put to rest.
And yes, I notice already that Web has taken the win to heart, head, ego, and to areas that aren't family friendly.
Post by: webadict on January 05, 2010, 09:47:05 am
So i missed this right?Psh... That's just WIFOM the scum WANT you to think!
Guys... You probably failed to follow the most fundamental rule of mafia...
If Alexhans or Solifuge are not playing, Webadict is ALWAYS scum. Always.
Post by: Leafsnail on January 05, 2010, 12:41:35 pm
So i missed this right?Also, if Alexhans is in the game, then I'm modding.
Guys... You probably failed to follow the most fundamental rule of mafia...
If Alexhans or Solifuge are not playing, Webadict is ALWAYS scum. Always.
Post by: Alexhans on January 05, 2010, 12:48:29 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on January 05, 2010, 12:50:40 pm
Post by: Alexhans on January 05, 2010, 12:54:50 pm
I still get the urge to play a good forum mafia once in a while... That can not really be satisfied by IRC...
btw, I thougth you meant that you'd like to mod if I was playing because I always get you as scum... :P
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 05, 2010, 06:08:16 pm
...*sees counterexamples*So i missed this right?Psh... That's just WIFOM the scum WANT you to think!
Guys... You probably failed to follow the most fundamental rule of mafia...
If Alexhans or Solifuge are not playing, Webadict is ALWAYS scum. Always.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 05, 2010, 11:08:57 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 05, 2010, 11:16:53 pm
Post by: RedWarrior0 on January 05, 2010, 11:26:36 pm
Post by: dakarian on January 05, 2010, 11:53:39 pm
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2010, 12:00:05 am
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 06, 2010, 12:07:37 am
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2010, 12:35:26 am
Quasimodo.
...
That's one of my favorite novels. I just finished forcing someone to read it today.
He complained bitterly about the architecture >_>
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 06, 2010, 12:43:57 am
Post by: Vector on January 06, 2010, 02:22:32 am
I admit I have not read it. Dumas? No, Hugo. Did read Les Misérables, though...not really to my taste. Wouldn't be compatible with it presently.
Warning: posting while entirely exhausted.
Spoiler: Vector mutters about novels (click to show/hide)
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 06, 2010, 06:56:54 pm
Spoiler: For which I have a mildly interesting story. (click to show/hide)
As I was...ten? at the time, I decided that the one with the most was likely to be the least abridged.Post by: Vector on January 07, 2010, 12:23:27 am
Yes, unfortunately(?) I read an English translation, as with Monte Cristo.Spoiler: For which I have a mildly interesting story. (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: ... Books. They are awesome. (click to show/hide)
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 01:11:31 am
Spoiler: Why are we talking in spoilers now? (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on January 07, 2010, 01:38:56 am
Spoiler: Why are we talking in spoilers now? (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: That would be because... (click to show/hide)
Post by: CobaltKobold on January 07, 2010, 01:54:52 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Vector on January 07, 2010, 02:07:18 am
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: Leafsnail on January 07, 2010, 10:41:31 am
Although I am looking to fill the embarrassing gaps in my literary knowledge.
Post by: Vector on January 07, 2010, 12:21:10 pm
On the other hand, if you ever want to talk literature, I'm interested.
Post by: Pandarsenic on January 08, 2010, 03:15:12 pm
My ex likes Lolita a lot, but I haven't read it myself. I'll leave that subject alone. I highly recommend House of Leaves though. In addition to the epic mindscrew, it's just plain fun to read.
Also, I need to pick up a French copy of Compte de Monte-Cristo. :I