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So, i made a comment in the Mafia game types thread that once MSPA Mafia was over i'd run a small 7 - 9 man Bastard Mod game.
Here it is; this will be a generic bastard mod Mafia setting, i've learned a few fun tricks to try with MSPA Mafia, as well as a few fun tricks to not try, so we'll see how this works out. I promose i'll do my best to try and not create a horribly broken role that can instantly win the game for everyone XD
Standard Mafia rules will apply, but i'm going to add a new one; Because this is a bastard game and there is every possibility i will be lying to you, you may quote Mod PM's if you so wish. You may also make up quoted Mod PM's to fuck with people.
You may PM other players, so long as i am copied in on all PM's.
I can't guarantee this will be balanced, but it should be fun, and i'll try to balance it as well as i can.
Discuss.
Players (8/7)
MagmaDeath
tehstefan
Leafsnail - Broked
Apostolic Nihilist - WINNER! 2nd Place
RedWarrior0 - ReDeceased WINNER! 1st Place
ExKirby webadict
ExKirby Vector - Co-Host
ExKirby CobaltKobold
ExKirby ToonyMan
Pandarsenic - WINNER! 2nd Place
Neruz - Moderator (Bastard) WINNER! 2nd Place
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Stick to the MSPA theme!
I'll join if you stick with it man.
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MSPA mafia was fun.
I agree with toony, Unless you have some better theme, Stick with MSPA.
In all the same.
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In again! That was loads of fun. And yes. I hope at some point, there's another MSPA mafia.
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I guess I'll in then.
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I'll join.
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In. Straight up bastard game.
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Since there is apparantly demand for another MSPA Mafia; i'll run it after this, as i imagine running 2 Mafia games at once would be somewhat chaotic.
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Yeah. Makes sense
And well, it was loads of fun, even if it was horribly broken. Heck, that was half the fun!
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Stick to the MSPA theme!
I'll join if you stick with it man.
I'll tell you what Toony, i'll give you an MSPA Role, how's that sound? :P
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Stick to the MSPA theme!
I'll join if you stick with it man.
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But i want to do a generic bastard mafia game, i have such fun ideas :(
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Well, do both! Combine both great ideas, into some hideous abomination of mafia! Isn't that the spirit of the bastard mod games anyway?
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Well... we can quote the mod...
So I imagine the mafia will get a fakeclaim or something like that. Or someone might have a scrambled and crappy looking role pm.
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Well, do both! Combine both great ideas, into some hideous abomination of mafia! Isn't that the spirit of the bastard mod games anyway?
Well there's nothing stopping me from putting an MSPA role or two into this game.
Well... we can quote the mod...
So I imagine the mafia will get a fakeclaim or something like that. Or someone might have a scrambled and crappy looking role pm.
Normally you're not allowed quote the mod since it 'adds weight' to your post somehow, since you can also blatantly make shit up and pretend that i said it, i don't mind if you quote me, since it adds no real weight to any claim at all.
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Well, in other games, giving the exact same role pm as all other townies "clears" you. It's the same reason you aren't allowed to card number claim in real life (or at least in the version I play).
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That would work, but it assumes you'll all be getting the same role PM. I would not like the odds on that assumption.
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*Poke*
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Stick to the MSPA theme!
I'll join if you stick with it man.
For lulz, not because I want to try my hand at a Bastard Mod game. So, I don't want to join. Just that MSPA seemed way cooler than the others.
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Ker-bump.
You guys are going to make me run another MSPA Mafia aren't you?
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No, but I wanna join this.
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Wun moar to reach the minimum required!
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Fine, be that way.
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Yay, that's 7. I'll leave signups open for another day or so while i get everything together and then we shall begin!
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Alrighty, christmas got to me a bit there, but i have some time now.
Signups are closed, PM's are being forged.
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Role PM's are being sent. Game begins.
It is Day 1. Hammer Votes are in effect! 4 Votes are needed to hammer.
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zchris, why is you avatar slightly hypnotic?
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On the contrary, Leafsnail, it seems to be rather stereoscopic.
Tell me a good joke, will you? It's quite urgent, y'see.
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Doctor, doctor, people keep ignoring my requests for jokes!
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By the way, I'll be away until the 31st (leaving later today). It's a slightly longer abscence than I previously anticipated. I'll be able to play again on the 31st, so a replacement probably isn't necessary.
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Typical; we start just in time for Leafsnail to go.
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Suddenly, you all notice something ghastly!
ExKirby is DEAD! At least, you're pretty sure he's dead; his brain is missing, the entire top of his skull has been ripped off and his brain removed. This is terrible!
Worse still, upon searching the documents on his person you are all impossibly confused, none of them make any sense at all! It is clear from this that ExKirby was a Lawyer, but you have no idea if he was town or mafia! Curse those Lawyers and their legalese!
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Can I just ask what the heck happened?
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You died?
Pandarsenic, what the fuck just happened?
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Whoah. That was unexpected. Redwarrior what are your thoughts on this as well?
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ExKirby's brain is missing. Sounds like zombies.
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Great, so we have a (possible) day-killer?
Who'd kill him, and why?
It isn't exactly a huge loss for town, but... his name wasn't even mentioned at all! Leafsnail is probably semi-clear.
The killer is either RedWarrior0, tehstefan, someone who hasn't posted yet, or ExKirby himself.
Perhaps he can turn himself into a zombie? Though I don't see any advantages to that, really.
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Can I just ask what the heck happened?
Your brains are gone. Someone removed them.
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Somebody went Sylar on him, it seems.
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Are the dead allowed to post?
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Not normally, no.
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This is a Bastard-Mod. There are no rules. Seeing as I got killed BEFORE I EVEN **** POSTED, I should be allowed to ghostplay.
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I can't help it if someone decided to daykill you can i?
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ExKirby, you should probably stop posting. Given that this is a Bastard Mod, there are probably several hidden mechanics.
More seriously: Does anyone have anything constructive to post besides witty comments about his death?
tehstefan, tell me: Why did the killer choose ExKirby? What alignment do you think the killer is?
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I can't help it if someone decided to daykill you can i?
It would be minorly understandable if I was kill later in the day. But before anyone even got a chance to get a read on me? Seriously?
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Don't ask me, i didn't expect him to just leap out and slaughter a random person at first available opportunity. You'll have to ask him, when you find out who it was.
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Well, I'm gonna keep talking until I find my killer and why he killed me.
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Unvote. No Lynch. AN, what are your thoughts on the daykill?
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To answer your question, my thought is mainly that it must be anti town. No town vig would honestly kill someone that fast, unless they were really really stupid, so it has to be some sort of anti town role. Whether or not its mafia I'm not sure, but whoever it is, it probably isn't good. Perhaps a serial killer of some sort, a day kill variety?
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Well, why me? I'm not the best of scumhunters-if they wanted to kill off a town, why not a better player like Leaf?
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Unvote. No Lynch. AN, what are your thoughts on the daykill?
I originally assumed it was a town role who did the killing -- if you have a chance to daykill someone (with zero chance of being blocked), you generally take out the 'best' town player. Why would scum target ExKirby? — There's no reason to. Unless of course, the person with the kill is the 'best' town player.
Think of it like this: There are 5 players in a generic mafia game. 1 of these players is phenomenal, an absolutely terrifying adversary to go against if he's town. Another one of them is still leagues ahead of everyone else, but not quite as good.
The remaining three are 'novices'.
Let's assume you're one of the novices, and you're also a serial-killer with a daykill. Given that it's D1, there is no chance that your target will be protected, nor that you will be blocked. Obviously you would target the best town player.
Now, what if you were the 'best' town player, and you're a serial-killer with a daykill? Who would you target then?
Targeting the second-best makes no sense as that immediately puts suspicion on you. "Why'd the SK choose <second-best player> over <best player>?! <Best player> must be scum!" This is a terrible move, as the only defense is "Scum's trying to frame me!" and that rarely goes well.
No, the only target you can choose without attracting suspicion is a novice. One who poses no threat to you... unless you're trying to WIFOM everyone.
To be honest, I've changed my mind. I don't think a town vig was responsible for the death of ExKirby: I think it was a serial-killer. Furthermore, I think it was either one of our best players, or a player who misjudged ExKirby's skill level.
I believe this sounds reasonable, yes?
There's another possibility which is becoming increasingly likely, though -- ExKirby committed suicide as part of his role (or he pretended to, ala Ken Kesey). So, ExKirby. What say you to that?
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Maybe Neruz did it for the lulz
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Anything is possible. I admit nothing.
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I don't trust Neruz at all. I suspect we either have someone who can Sylar their brains and gain their powers (an SK?) or a zombie as a daykilling cult leader.
Oh man.
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...Apost. I DIED. I can't die twice! My paperwork wouldn't allow!
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HOLD ON A MINUTE
Those damned lawyers! Perhaps it is an ability after all. Maybe ExKirby is only legally dead and thus unlynchable, or other such nonsense?
...Well, I mean, otherwise you'd think Neruz would crack down on him consistently posting after death.
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Hmm.... Might explain the lack of alignment flip.
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This IS a bastard-mod. Rule 1 of Bastard-Mod, there are no rules.
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A good Bastard Mod has rules, the players just don't know them.
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There are rules, i may have made some up as i went along, but there are rules.
Since ExKirby died like 5 minutes into the game, i don't mind if he keeps posting, he doesn't know anything. The instant someone else dies though, he'll have to stop, since he has Dead Chat access.
Plus he's proving to be an excellent source of WIFOM, and i'm all for that.
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New semireliable information: ExKirby is truly good and dead. His continued presence is more of pity than anything else.
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Pretty much. ExKirby has the "Mod's Pity" buff at the moment.
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Quick question, is this bastard to the point that you'll tell us outright lies and claim they're true?
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Yes. You cannot trust anything i post. Not even this. Or that.
You can trust the following line however, and this line as well.
There are rules, it is possible to work out what these rules are. Every player can win. I will hide information from you guys, but i will not suddenly spring gigantic 'fuck you' signs and have you lose through no fault of your own. Anything i do to the game is both predictable and avoidable.
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Hrmm. It's a divergence from my style of Bastard Modding (denial of information but no misinformation) but I can work with it. ExKirby's "mod pity" buff may or may not be bull. Better not to concern ourselves with WIFOM because we'll see soon enough.
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Misinformation is pretty easy to deal with; just ignore it entirely. Treat it as denial of information.
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Votecount?
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I spose. Gimme a sec.
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Voten Counten
zchris13 [1] (Leafsnail)
Redwarrior0 [1] (tehstefan)
ExKirby [1] (Apostolic Nihilist)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
Apostolic; remember to Unvote. I counted them this time, but i won't do so in the future.
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...I can be lynched?
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I don't trust ExKirby at all.
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Wait what?
Exkirby can be lynched, although he is dead?
Lets find out why this is...
He possibly has some sort of role where he can pretend to Kill himself, but keep going to the end, as he still seems to be allowed to post.
This is a bastard mod afterall.
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This is a bastard mod afterall.
What on earth made you think it wasn't?
I assure you though, you're only just starting to scratch the surface of the bastardry.
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This ought to be fun. Should we relaly try for Exkirby though? I mean, we don't have any credible reason for voting him, it seems more like we're voting him just to see what happens. Seems like a waste of a lynch.
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Can he vote?
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Let's find out, Panda.
Vote Count, pl0x.
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Counten Offen Votens
zchris13 [1] (Leafsnail)
Redwarrior0 [1] (tehstefan)
ExKirby [(http://i49.tinypic.com/r9qyie.jpg)] (Apostolic Nihilist, Pandarsenic, MagmaDeath)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
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That's disconcerting.
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Isn't it?
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Looks like I don't get a vote. Aww.
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Eh. That is intriguing. but I think we should still go through with an EK lynch. He could be a survivor-esque role that forfeits his right to vote in return for an 'apparent' suicide. It's better we test out this possibility first before being stuck with him at Lylo or somesuch.
Quick note: I probably won't be able to post much for the next 2-3 days due to some aggravating network issues.
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I think Neruz is just messing with us. ExKirby is almost certainly genuinely dead, with Neruz just making something up to confuse everyone.
So, Apostolic Nihilist, any thoughts on this game other than on ExKirby?
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Hrrm, Unvote Leafsnail I may ask the same question of you. You did enlighten me on how you think Exkriby's just a ploy, but dont' you have some other thoughts on this game? You are one of the more experienced players after all.
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To be honest? My thoughts are that this game is a whole load of nothing. The daykill has distracted everyone, and I'd like to get us talking again, starting with those pushing a lynch on a dead guy who's quit mafia anyway.
Actually, I want to test something about the votecount.
Unvote, vote Chuck Norris.
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Hrrm, Unvote that is not red Leafsnail I may ask the same question of you. You did enlighten me on how you think Exkriby's just a ploy, but dont' you have some other thoughts on this game? You are one of the more experienced players after all.
ಠ_ಠ
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Vote count please, Neruz?
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Voten Offen Counten Pantsen
ExKirby [(http://i49.tinypic.com/r9qyie.jpg)] (Apostolic Nihilist, Pandarsenic, MagmaDeath)
Chuck Norris [(http://i47.tinypic.com/14wvaiu.gif)] (Leafsnail)
Leafsnail [1] (tehstefan)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
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So, now we've established that appearance on the votecount means nothing, I will unvote and vote Apostolic Nihilist once again.
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I think Neruz may have just made my day right there. Seriously.
In any case, now we've established that the vote count will show anything, Unvote, Pandar what do you think of this whole thing? I'd like to hear your opinion on the fact the vote count will show anything.
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Unvote ExKirby. If a replacement notice goes up, he's not dead. It's that simple.
How is Leafy voting for Chuck Norris?
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I just did that to demonstrate that ExKirby's appearance on the vote count does not necessarily mean he is alive.
Unless I just accidentally created a Chuck Norris NPC, of course.
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Wotcha
ExKirby [2] (Apostolic Nihilist, MagmaDeath)
Apostolic Nihilist [1] (Leafsnail)
Leafsnail [1] (Chuck Norris)
Pandarsenic [1] (tehstefan)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
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Uh... well... that ain't good.
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"Neruz Bastard Mod Rule(Or lack thereof)book. Edition 9.63.21d, Volume 4, Article 5, Section 3, Subsection 35a, Rule 13, Paragraph Bravo, Line 96.5: Never vote for Chuck Norris."
I think I got the right part of it.
Anyways, Neruz is a crossbreed of Josef Stalin and Adolf Hitler, and this game of Mafia takes place in Gnarnia.
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I guess I now need to think of someone to vote for that will give me good stuff... hmm...
Also, AN, I'm still waiting for you.
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ApoNi (A PONY), MagmaDeath, unvote ExKirby. We know he's not really dead if a replacement-needed notice goes up. Barring that, he's probably really dead.
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Thoughts? Well, it's clearly Neruz screwing with us. Perhaps we were on to something, but it's not something that can be confirmed unless we actually go through with a lynch.
Since ExKirby quit, we can (as Pandarsenic has stated) wait and see if he needs a replacement. This doesn't really solve much, though -- Neruz' objective is to screw with us. I seriously doubt this game has super-tight fool-proof lists of rules; most of it is made up on the go.
I want to continue voting ExKirby simply to see what will happen. I'd love to try and lynch Chuck Norris, but that could have negative consequences.
Here are my thought, specifically about ExKirby:
He's unkillable. Obviously, since he's dead. Neruz loves WIFOM and as such will likely find a replacement for him even if he's dead, simply because he loves to screw with us. The only way to really get a concrete understanding of what's going on IS to vote & lynch ExKirby.
We can scumhunt all we want, and that's well and good, but we should try to understand our situation first. We need to know the game mechanics, the rules. What is and isn't possible. This could either be a puzzle, or the absence of aforementioned puzzle could be the puzzle itself.
We should behave as if scum exist, but finding them should be tertiary for the time being. If our searching turns up nothing, THEN we turn to scumhunting.
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Der Tabel
ExKirby [2] (Apostolic Nihilist, MagmaDeath)
Apostolic Nihilist [2] (Leafsnail, ExKirby)
Pandarsenic [1] (tehstefan)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
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But the only thing that implied he wasn't dead was that Neruz let him keep posting "out of pity". ExKirby seemed genuinely annoyed by being daykilled right at the start of the game.
So, here are my conclusions.
- The scum can daykill
- The scum either has to kill early in the day, or wanted to avoid detection by killing early
- The scum is trying to force a pointless lynch on a dead player
Apost, even if ExKirby is alive, he won't be playing unless he gets a replacement. Why lynch him?
Also, RedWarrior, why are you voting Noe Lynch?
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You might want to read that vote count verrry carefully there Leafsnail.
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Hmm... so ExKirby has become some kind of auto-OMGUSer? Interesting. I still need to think of some way to use this system to our advantage... hm...
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I's Getten Sick o' Dis
ExKirby [2] (Apostolic Nihilist, MagmaDeath)
Apostolic Nihilist [1] (Leafsnail)
Pandarsenic [1] (tehstefan)
Noe Lynch [1] (RedWarrior0)
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ExKirby has been replaced by webadict, Vector and CobaltKobold.
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Wait what?
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I vote for A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CoboltKobold.
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Unvote. There is no other way. I am sorry, Neruz
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I'll replace ExKirby too if it isn't full.
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I'll replace ExKirby too if it isn't full.
xDI vote for A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CoboltKobold.
I vote for the pumpkin
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The head on the far left, who until now had been snoring (rather loudly, I might add), suddenly speaks, "... What just happened?"
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Somebody chop off one of the heads so I can grow on.
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...I hesitate to ask about the body I'm stuck in now.
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...I hesitate to ask about the body I'm stuck in now.
The left hand smacks the middle head in the face. It is bruised!
"Sweet! I control the left hand," the left head exclaims. "The left hand symbolizes the devil, and with that lies and treachery. Or perhaps it's the other way around," he trails off, the seems to come back to reality." I suppose that very fitting, though I suppose I have nothing to lie about. I'm merely here because I don't control the legs. So, here's a riddle: Only one of us is able to be voted for. It's the one that controls the legs, because he brought us here. But, the one that can be voted for will lie to you, but I can tell you that it is definitely the middle head that brought our body here.
"If you vote for anyone but that head, you will not stop us," the left head states, the looks up towards the sun. "But, feel free not to listen. I'm was only brought here."
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ToonyMan has also replaced ExKirby.
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Well, this is a lot of fun. Seems Neruz loves to make the bastard of this game go farther than before. Go beyond the impossible it seems. So, one of you is the one to vote for. However, how do we know if we should even vote for you, or if that may bring retribution to us. I don't know if I exactly trust Web at all.
and sweet. Now if Pandar flips scum, we just have to lynch toony and we're done.
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A head appears from within the chest. It's eyes appear to be spirals. You wonder what drugs you've been taking. This head speaks lies and truths. You are better off not talking to it at all.
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Theres plenty more impossibles to go beyond yet.
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I replace Neruz.
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You can't replace Neruz, you're already in the game.
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Your thinking of MSPA mafia Redwarrior, no ascend to modhood powers for you!
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Votecount?
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Where is the Cow?
webadict [2] (Apostolic Nihilist, MagmaDeath)
A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CoboltKobold [1] (Leafsnail)
Pandarsenic [1] (tehstefan)
Neruz [1] (RedWarrior0)
the pumpkin [1] (CoboltKobold)
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no pumpkin graphic? dang.
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This is it. unvote, /b/.
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I've officially decided we just ignore the vote count. It'll say anything. I bet if I kept voting, it'd record it all, though in the end it wouldn't. Or neruz wouldn't, now that i've said it, to be mean. who knows.
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I vote Pandarsenic. Speak now or for ever hold your speak.
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what pumpkin Cobalt?
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unvote. Quicklynch Pandarsenic!
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Unvote REDWARRIOR0! YOU AR SCUM! DIE!
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Everyone vote Pandarsenic or you will die. That is my role. Do it.
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I think it's tehstefan!
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... What have I gotten myself into?
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This is...
Unvote
A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict CoboltKobold, and ToonyMan
People, we need to get rid of that thing.
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Remember to redify your shit.
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Wat
webadict [2] (Apostolic Nihilist, MagmaDeath)
A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CoboltKobold [1] (Leafsnail)
Pandarsenic [2] (ToonyMan, RedWarrior0)
RedWarrior0 [1] (tehstefan)
the pumpkin [1] (CoboltKobold)
tehstefan [1] (webadict)
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What have we done!?
I can't help but feel partially responsible for this but Pandarsenic is somewhat to blame for suggesting we 'game the system' and wait for a replacement for ExKirby.
I mean, we now have 3(+?) players stuck on one body who may or may not be connected! To make matters worse, they (probably) have votes.
I don't think that ignoring this madness is good; leaving it as it is will undoubtedly cause problems (if not now, then further down the line).
You know what? I'm going to play into Neruz' hand. Let's go along with this craziness. Let's do what only we can do -- let's counter it with even more insanity.
For some hellish reason, this strange amalgamation of S-Rank players have entered the arena. It defies reason, and hence I declare that they do not exist!
Come on, say it with me! "A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CobaltKobold does not exist!"
It's worth a shot, right?
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Assertion of thought.
Assertion of existence.
Existence is a modulation of our most fundamental tendencies, wherefore springs consciousness as did Athena from Zeus's forehead. We are here and we exist, though we were said to die. This fact pertains perhaps to a resurrection and perhaps to a fundamental truth pertaining to all lifeforms. As though we were built of the dust of a million worlds, disintegrating and reinventing ourselves, we exist, now and forever and always.
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Also, Death.
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Good thing I'm not a part of that twisted hydra.
I'm friend with you and me. Except Pandarsenic. Who has to die or I die.
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Yep. I am most definately enjoying this. Just sit back and wave, sit back and wave.
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Fixed
This is...
UnvoteA Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict CoboltKobold, and ToonyMan
People, we need to get rid of that thing.
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Come on, say it with me! "A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CobaltKobold does not exist!"
Are you suggesting we're all sleeping gods of some form? Well, maybe we should just ignore it... it seems like something Neruz is making up. Unvote.
MagmaDeath, why the BW onto something that's quite probably not in the game?
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Indeed, Magmadeath appears to be voting for "People, we need to get rid of that thing".
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Come on, say it with me! "A Twisted Hydra of Vector, Webadict and CobaltKobold does not exist!"
Are you suggesting we're all sleeping gods of some form? Well, maybe we should just ignore it... it seems like something Neruz is making up. Unvote.
MagmaDeath, why the BW onto something that's quite probably not in the game?
Well, it's more like, we all affect the game somehow. Be it by bringing into existence strange things (Chuck Norris, A Twisted Hydra, etc) and merely talking about them, they're put into play. So if we all start to deny that these things are happening, maybe they'll stop?
It's worth a shot, as I said, and nothing can really backfire.
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This is a Bastard Mod. ANYTHING can backfire.
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Even talk about backfiring could result in a backfire (!!)
We can ignore it, but that's just prolonging the problem. We need to deal with it sooner or later, and it's better now than at Lylo.
I'm going to continue denying it's existence, but I don't think it'll do anything unless multiple people take part in it.
There is no such thing as A Twisted Hydra. The most recent player additions to this game do not, in fact, exist.
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By saying we not exist we exist more.
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I'm going to continue denying it's existence, but I don't think it'll do anything unless multiple people take part in it.
There is no such thing as A Twisted Hydra. The most recent player additions to this game do not, in fact, exist.
Fun with Nihilism, brought to you by Apostolic Nihilist. I don't exist. ;D
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The problem is that your acknowledging their existence by saying that. if you wanted to truly say they didn't exist, you wouldn't mention it, because, of course, it isn't there
So, I disagree that it doesn't exist. However, I also think it might just be a decoy, and not really do anything. Just a gag role, to make us think its important.
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By saying we not exist we exist more.
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Vote Count
webadict [1] (Apostolic Nihilist)
Pandarsenic [2] (ToonyMan, RedWarrior0)
RedWarrior0 [1] (tehstefan)
the pumpkin [1] (CoboltKobold)
tehstefan [1] (webadict)
Death [1] (Vector)
People, we need to get rid of that thing [1] (MagmaDeath)
MagmaDeath [1] (Leafsnail)
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Yes! Pandarsenic must be lynched.
Thanks for spreading your votes guys.
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Come, brethren. Let us slay Brother Death and live on forever in peace and everlasting light.
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I DON'T THINK SO.
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You have a cause, right CobaltKobold?
We need to split the town up on different causes.
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That's what you want them to think. (mouseover)
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"I'm telling you, you must lynch the correct one or lynch neither of us at all," webadict suddenly looks off into the distance. "Brother Vector, what would you say if I were to suddenly," webadict pauses, a grin growing on his face.
"...die? What would happen then?"
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Do i need to start sending prods?
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Yes.
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The problem is that your acknowledging their existence by saying that. if you wanted to truly say they didn't exist, you wouldn't mention it, because, of course, it isn't there
So, I disagree that it doesn't exist. However, I also think it might just be a decoy, and not really do anything. Just a gag role, to make us think its important.
Ah, but denying the existence of a deity does not acknowledge the existence of one. This is the same.
I can deny something's existence so long as I don't directly interact with it (and even then, it's still possible...).
So long as I accept that others believe, I can deny without accepting any such nonsense myself.
So let's try this again, together:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A HYDRA.
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What's a hydra?
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What pumpkin?
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You asked for it.(http://i50.tinypic.com/2nhjjnk.jpg)
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Alrighty, i'm going to send out prods to everyone on the game list who hasn't posted recently.
If you are actually playing, just ignore the prod.
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Prods have been sent. All references to Pumpkins are to be ignored as Pumpkins to not exist.
Henceforth, any mention of Pumpkins (remembering that there is no such thing) shall be met with capital punishment. Or would be, if Pumpkins existed, which they do not.
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"It's so quiet in here..."
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Apost, if I'm honest...
I don't think you're doing anything.
And if it did work, you should be writing:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAFIA
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That could work. I was more focused on our most immediate threat (that is, this strange trio). I don't believe we have any control over actual game mechanics, but it's worth a shot.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAFIA.
Though admittedly, since we didn't bring the mafia into existence, I doubt we'll have control over it.
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We did bring the mafia into existance. We joined to game, didn't we?
On a more serious note, MagmaDeath, please say something.
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This is interesting. We have Apo saying that one that may or may not exist doesn't, but we have to do something right?
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Listen to me.
I am right all are wrong.
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Wait, what mafia?
If this actually worked..
But it probably wont.
ToonyMan, what if you are wrong, then are all right?
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If all are right, then so am I.
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But if you are right, all are wrong, Including you.
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There is no scum.
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If I am wrong, all are right. Including me.
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Have I told anyone how much I love Quine today?
No?
I love Quine with a passion beyond flame and affection surpassing the sea. Quine is my deep beloved.
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The fun's over. >:(
I still think we should lynch Pandarsenic.
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MagmaDeath
tehstefan
Leafsnail
Apostolic Nihilist
RedWarrior0
Pandarsenic
Neruz
Neruz is playing? Since when?
Well, I think he's an irritating git. Don't you?
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The ground quakes. Something has happened, but none of you can say what.
Or can you?
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All players are now town aligned.
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Did something happen? I mean, aside from the ground quaking.
Leafsnail: Did it work? You seem to know something.
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It was worth a try, right?
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"All players are Mafia-aligned."
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We all win! Its MSPA Mafia all over again!
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"All the Mafia are dead"
"Also, there is no such thing as zombies, or other undead"
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We all win! Its MSPA Mafia all over again!
Do you see any sign of me saying the game is over? No.
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"All the Mafia are dead"
"Also, there is no such thing as zombies, or other undead"
hey!
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I wonder
"The game is over. We all win"
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...
Isn't it kind of clear that this isn't working? Why don't why try to go find the freakin' scum?
Actually...
Unvote. Neruz.
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If you lynch Neruz, who is supposed to run the game?
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Neruz...
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If you lynch Neruz, who is supposed to run the game?
You should have thought that out ahead of time, good scumsir.
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Unvote.
Time for an anti-Neruz revolution!
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So now we're trying to lynch the Mod? I don't know if that works. He might kill everyone who tries to lynch him with mod powers. Or we'd just waste a lynch. I'm not agreeing with that.
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Unless everyone wants to lose by default due to the Mod being dead and thus unable to continue the game, i would have to invoke my Moderator role powers to nullify the lynch.
Because i'm an asshole i would probably swap someone else into the noose meant for me.
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You mean win by default, Neruz. Right? :D
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Haha! You can't modkill us all!
Oh, wait.
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You mean win by default, Neruz. Right? :D
In a word; No.
With the mod dead, the game can't continue, so it's a draw, since no side has won and no side has the ability to continue.
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Lynching the mod seems like a no-go, so let's get back to scumhunting.
Leafsnail, explain yourself, please.
Apost, if I'm honest...
I don't think you're doing anything.
And if it did work, you should be writing:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MAFIA
Look at this! Look, you openly express doubts that what I was doing was working!
Yet after some suspicious quaking, suddenly:
All players are now town aligned.
A COMPLETE TURN-AROUND!
It's as if you were directly affected by a change. There's no hiding it.
Leafsnail: What happened to you?
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Whoops. Forgot to unvote.
Leafsnail.
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Huh? Both times I'm writing basically the same thing - a sortof "Just in case it works" policy. The quaking hinted that we might be able to say what happened.
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"I disagree. It's definitely Pandarsenic."
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Solution: At lylo, lynch Neruz if town isn't very certain about who's scum?
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Fair enough, though I believe I will be saying "I told you so" at the end.
LYNCH THE BASTARD
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no. Vector.. you fool!
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no. Vector.. you fool!
Of what do you speak Moronsauce.
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I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Vector.
Assertion of existence. Assertion of irrationality. Why do you intend to kill the Creator, the Controller? Why do you rage against the heavens?
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Lynchboard
Leafsnail [1] (Apostolic Nihilist)
Pandarsenic [3] (ToonyMan, RedWarrior0, webadict)
RedWarrior0 [1] (tehstefan)
Vector [1] (CobaltKobold)
Death [1] (Vector)
People, we need to get rid of that thing [1] (MagmaDeath)
MagmaDeath [1] (Leafsnail)
Neruz [1] (Pandarsenic)
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Vector [1] (CoboltKobold)
Assertion of spelling.
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The spinning shoe strikes CobaltKobold in the upper chest!
It is lopped clean off!
CobaltKobold has been struck down!
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ha! that is not the correct message for that part. I live!
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MagmaDeath, when are you going to vote for someone that's actually in the game?
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lol, vote Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic
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Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
Pandarsenic.
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Good thing you're voting Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic Pandarsenic and not Pandarsenic.
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Toony, however, clearly made it noticeable that he was voting you multiple times. Although we should just have everyone vote you once.
Also: We can lynch Neruz. He himself explicitly said not to trust him. Do we know the game will end?
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We shouldn't be voting me at all.
I'm kind of tempted to ask for a replacement. This game seems almost unplayable...
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Which is why you should ignore everything that ExKirby's replacements do.
Because seriously, we can't do anything except stop town from scum hunting because they're too bothered with us.
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Who throws a shoe? Really?
*throws shoe at Toonyman*
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The game is only unplayable if you let yourself get trapped by it, Which is kind of the point.
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Can someone hammer pandar and just end the day already?
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RedWarrior0, you are the only person actually playing who is voting for me (therefore the only person with a vote), so I'm going to OMGUS you.
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Ohshi-
Leafsnail [1] (Apostolic Nihilist)
Pandarsenic [3] (ToonyMan, RedWarrior0, webadict)
RedWarrior0 [2] (tehstefan, RedWarrior0)
Vector [1] (CobaltKobold)
Death [1] (Vector)
People, we need to get rid of that thing [1] (MagmaDeath)
MagmaDeath [2] (Leafsnail, Pandarsenic)
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-.- Unvote MagmaDeath, vote RedWarrior0.
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But you never voted Magmadeath...? :o
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BONK
Leafsnail [1] (Apostolic Nihilist)
Pandarsenic [3] (ToonyMan, RedWarrior0, webadict)
RedWarrior0 [4] (tehstefan, RedWarrior0, Pandarsenic, MagmaDeath)
Vector [1] (CobaltKobold)
Death [1] (Vector)
MagmaDeath [1] (Leafsnail)
RedWarrior0 has the Hammer! None of you have any goddamn clue what you're doing, but the board says he's to be killed, so he will die! A long walk and a short drop later, it is so. Except it's not! RedWarrior0 appears to be a Zombie, and Zombies do not need to breathe! Hanging has no effect on him.
While you're all trying to work out where to go from here, MagmaDeath steps forward and blows his head off with a shotgun.
RedWarrior0 is Deceased!
You are A Zombie!
You like brains. Once each day, you may eat someone's brains. This ovbiously kills them, but grants you a limited 1-shot version of their power.
You are DEAD.
You win when you are NOT.
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It is now NIGHT!
Send in your actions. Night lasts until 0500 (GMT+0) on Tuesday. If you do not send in an action by then, you won't do anything.
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It is now DAY 2! A largely uneventful night follo- OH SHIT REDWARRIOR0 IS ALIVE AGAIN WAT.
4 Votes are required to hammer.
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...
RedWarrior0, go away.
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RedWarriror0, why not.
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McVoteburger
RedWarrior0 [3] (Pandarsenic, ToonyMan, Chuck Norris)
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RedWarrior0 is unwanted.
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Wait, What?
RedWarrior0 [4] (Pandarsenic, ToonyMan, Chuck Norris, Vector)
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Wait...
RedWarrior0 is Deceased!
You are A Zombie!
You like brains. Once each day, you may eat someone's brains. This ovbiously kills them, but grants you a limited 1-shot version of their power.
You are DEAD.
You win when you are NOT.
So if he is dead, How can we kill him?
It didnt seem to work yesterday.
Also, Redwarrior0 seems to have eaten ExKirby's brains.
Suddenly, you all notice something ghastly!
ExKirby is DEAD! At least, you're pretty sure he's dead; his brain is missing, the entire top of his skull has been ripped off and his brain removed. This is terrible!
Worse still, upon searching the documents on his person you are all impossibly confused, none of them make any sense at all! It is clear from this that ExKirby was a Lawyer, but you have no idea if he was town or mafia! Curse those Lawyers and their legalese!
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Srsly u Gies
RedWarrior0 [5?] (Pandarsenic, ToonyMan, Chuck Norris, Vector, MagmaDeath)
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Ok, I reckon ExKirby was a Ken Kesey of some sort - a lawyer faking his own death sortof makes sense. Perhaps RedWarrior0 gained this ability?
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I did kill Ex. Notice the difference between "dead" and "deceased"
I was Dead, then deceased, now I'm alive. And did anyone read the role I flipped?
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So you've won?
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I didn't flip my complete role. One sec
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Here it is: Note one sentence was omitted in the flip.
You are A Zombie!
You like brains. Once each day, you may eat someone's brains. This ovbiously kills them, but grants you a limited 1-shot version of their power. While you're technically a town-aligned survivor role, the fact that you're a Zombie will mean that anyone who investigates you will get a scum result.
You are DEAD.
You win when you are NOT.
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And why, precisely, are you currently alive?
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Ain't no rest for the wicked.
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You win with the Town.
You are a WINNER, and have already won.
You may find this interesting.
Also, Vector, I don't know.
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Fair enough.
Unvote. Brother Pandarsenic, wherefore art thou SUCH A SCUMBUCKET?
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A pond by any other name would play as foul.
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A pond by any other name would play as foul.
Ooh, nice one! Verily!
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I am not a scumbucket.
And why are you posting in that font? If it isn't required, stop.
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You win with the Town.
You are a WINNER, and have already won.
You may find this interesting.
Also, Vector, I don't know.
You're winner?
...anyway. We probably should've hammered had he been alive/in the game, thus we can assume he has won. I'm confused as to why I got no such message, but whatever.
Didn't your role PM state that you'd win when you were alive? I mean, I guess you're alive. Sort of? But really... I don't think regenerating after being shot counts as 'being alive'. You're still undead, right?
...I hate this whole deal with the 'undead' and 'deceased' and such. It makes no sense.
It's possible (or perhaps even likely!) that ExKirby's replacement's votes don't count, which means RedWarrior0 should have 3 votes on him. So I guess I'll try to hammer.
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I'm going to have to agree with them. I don't think that a regenerating Redwarrior0 is exactly what I want to have happen. It seems too fishy, and that your still alive could bode ill on us later on. Though, I'm not exactly sure I trust that your exactly lynchable. Neruz has put in unlynchable roles in before, though until we're sure on that, I'm not about to stop voting you.
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I'm not regenerating, nor am i undead. I'm alive, sheeple!
I asked Neruz some stuffs on the term "Dead" because it was in ExKirby's death message and my role PM. Then, notice that after my lynch, there was the "Deceased" message. He also clarified that lynching a "Dead" person affects them normally.
Neruz: Is there a difference between DECEASED and DEAD?
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Suddenly, a voice booms out across the heavens.
VECTOR does not have a win condition!
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Let me find you a tree stump Vector.
We can end this together.
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^_^
RedWarrior0 [7] (Pandarsenic, ToonyMan, Chuck Norris, MagmaDeath, Leafsnail, Apostolic Nihilist, tehstefan)
Pandarsenic [1] (Vector)
RedWarrior0 has the required amount of votes to be lynched, again!
This time he hangs marvellously, there is no failure to die, no immunity to strangulation. RedWarrior0 is well and truely dead.
Suddenly, RedWarrior0's body explodes like a colourful pinata of party goodness and you can hear trumpets playing in the distance. RedWarrior0 has WON!
RedWarrior0 claims first place. The game now continues to see who will claim second place. In amongst the streamers and boiled sweets, RedWarrior0's role is revealed!
Former Zombie
You were a Zombie once, but not anymore. Now, you live! Your memories of unlife grant you a stunning insight into the minds of other players, after all, you're quite familiar with minds. During the day you may investigate a player, determining their win condition. If you do so, their win condition will be posted in the thread by the Mod, shouted for all to hear.
Additionally if at the end of a given day you do not have a standing vote against someone, you may choose to act as a Doctor, Cop, Watcher, Gravedigger or a Roleblocker that night. You may not act as the same role toward the same person on consecutive nights, nor can you apply any role to yourself. You may cast a vote against someone during the day, but you must unvote before the end of the day to be permitted to use your Night Action. You win with the Town.
You are a WINNER, and have already won.
Night 2 has begun. Night 2 will end at 01:00AM, GMT+0 on Friday the 15th of January.
SEND IN YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS!
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Tonight is amazing. I am going to have to post a record of what happened this night when the game is over, it's incredible.
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The sun rises high into the sky, pushed by a gigantic celestial dung beetle. None of you notice this oddity however, because in the night Leafsnail died! He appears to have fallen down some stairs and broken his neck!
It doesn't take long to work out what Leafsnail is; unlike that damned ExKirbyHydraLawyerThing, Leafsnail's occupation is as clear as day; he is The Hypnotist!
You are The Hypnotist!
During the night, you may hypnotise a player. Doing so will roleblock them for that night, additionally while they are hypnotised you may ask them one question, and if they know the answer they will give it to you. When morning comes you erase their memory, and they will not know what happened.
Additionally, you will automatically hypnotise anyone who attempts to use a night action on you, making them think their action succeeded while in reality the action fails.
You are TOWN, you win when only townies remain.
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Wait, so what exactly was RedWarrior0? Some sort of Jester with the ability to daykill at will and steal powers...?
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I can't say until the end of the game.
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CobaltKobold.
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Gies, Vector knows something you don't; lynch him!
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Gies, Vector knows something you don't; lynch him!
I think we should lynch you, jerkface. Once we're done with CobaltKobold.
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You're not allowed lynch me, you're part of ExKirby's Replacement Hydra, how dare you turn on me.
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You're not allowed lynch me, you're part of ExKirby's Replacement Hydra, how dare you turn on me.
Run-on sentences! You are scum, scummy scummy scumface McScummerson!
Der Vogel kämpft sich aus dem Ei. Das Ei ist die Welt. Wer geboren werden will, muß eine Welt zerstören. Der Vogel fliegt zu Gott. Der Gott heißt Abraxas.
The bird struggles out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.
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Herr Hitler, i possess the Mod Kill. Your argument is void.
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You're not allowed lynch me, you're part of ExKirby's Replacement Hydra, how dare you turn on me.
Run-on sentences! You are scum, scummy scummy scumface McScummerson!
Der Vogel kämpft sich aus dem Ei. Das Ei ist die Welt. Wer geboren werden will, muß eine Welt zerstören. Der Vogel fliegt zu Gott. Der Gott heißt Abraxas.
The bird struggles out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas.
Ist Deutsch nicht die Beste?
tehstefan is scums though.
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Who does someone want me to vote?
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Who does someone want me to vote?
"Vote tehstefan", said the left head.
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Fine. I'll vote The Stephen.
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Hey, Hydra-people.
I'm going to offer you all a proposition.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're dead, so you can't win, right? You don't have a win condition. Now, I can bring you back to life, thus letting you win.
You'll have to do something for me, though, for this to work out. What do you say?
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Hey, Hydra-people.
I'm going to offer you all a proposition.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're dead, so you can't win, right? You don't have a win condition. Now, I can bring you back to life, thus letting you win.
You'll have to do something for me, though, for this to work out. What do you say?
Oh? And what would that be?
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It's quite simple, really.
I want at least three of you to say, "Apostolic Nihilist cannot die."
If you do this, I assure you that tonight you will be revived.
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But I'm not dead.
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But I'm not dead.
Lol, neither am I. I just wanted to know what to avoid :P
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Smooth.
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Apostolic Nihilist is already dead.
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Herr Hitler, i possess the Mod Kill. Your argument is void.
Godwin's Law. You just lost the thread.
Also, learn to Herman Hesse, noob >_>
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Vector is skirting dangerously close to a Modkill. :P
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Apostolic Nihilist is already dead.
He just doesn't know it yet. ;)
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Apostolic Nihilist
All the dead must die.
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Attempt to gain immortality: failed.
Well, whatever. It was worth a shot, right? It would've guaranteed a victory for town, too.
We can make someone more 'trustworthy' immortal if you don't want it to be me. As it stands, I haven't really noticed any particularly pro-town players so I chose the only one I was sure of -- myself.
It probably wouldn't have worked, but it was worth a shot, right?
That exchange was a bit useful for town, at least. We know that the hydra-people aren't inherently anti-town (My message came off as scum/survivor-ey) or at the very least aren't trying to actively hurt us. My bet is that Neruz instructed them to spread WIFOM around like mad. Their goal might even be to prevent as many people from winning as possible.
Since apparently they're still alive it means they'll be good fodder for the scum, though it's likely best to just ignore them.
Still, this exchange between Vector and Neruz is odd, for some reason.
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But AN, what if they are the scum?
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No, John, you are the demons.
Seriously, dudes. LYNCH THE SCUM. LYNCH HIM DEAD.
A bastard mod is a puzzle, right? Well, Neruz added himself to the player list for a reason. No one is acting particularly scummy, either. This makes me think that Neruz is the one we want to kill.
Or you could not listen to Vector. Just wait and watch and see.
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Tch, i'm not sure how much of this betrayal i can deal with Vector.
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Tch, i'm not sure how much of this betrayal i can deal with Vector.
STABBITY STABBITY STABBITY
If it is I alone who defies you, defy you I shall!
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Vector has been placed in the PENALTY BOX and loses his vote until i let him out of it.
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Can I replace ExKirby too?
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You can vote for Vector while he's in the penalty box if you want.
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Vector has been placed in the PENALTY BOX and loses his vote until i let him out of it.
Jerk.
Defy him, my minions! Defy! Defy!
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I can see i'm going to need to prod people again.
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Can I speculate as to how an action immune townie was killed at night?
And sure, Vector.
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Speculate away.
WAITAMINUTE, You're DEAD. Get back to the dead chat you!
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But AN, what if they are the scum?
I seriously doubt the only scum happened to be killed almost immediately after the game began. No doubt there is at least 1 or 2 more floating around.
We can certainly lynch them, but I don't see much of a point in doing so.
ALSO THIS STRANGE DOUBLE-STANDARD IS PERPLEXING ME
EXKIRBY CAN POST AFTER DEATH
LEAFSNAIL CANNOT
But he does raise a good point.
Just... how did he die? All kills should've failed, right?
Also, since I want to see what'll happen:
Vector is now co-host.
SERIOUSLY GUYS THIS COULD BE AWESOME
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I didn't give Leafsnail the "Mod's Pity" buff.
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We just need to say it 3 times, right? Okay, let's get this party started.
Vector is now co-host.
Vector is now co-host.
Vector is now co-host.
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Vector is now co-host.
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Oh jeez.
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The ground rumbles, the sky shakes. A great change ahs been wrought.
Vector has become the Co-Host.
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All players have won.
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Ohgod.
Didn't you learn from this last time, Neruz?
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It... actually worked?
Alright.
We've got a less WIFOM-ey mod than Neruz now. So let's take him out.
Unvote.
Vote Neruz.
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Guise, just follow my thing. -.-
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Guise, just follow my thing. -.-
Yeah, seriously. We need to teach Neruz that he can't give out these ridiculously game-breaking roles anymore (as fun as they may be).
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Guise, just follow my thing. -.-
I would, but I don't trust Neruz to not screw us over.
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The only reason i didn't screw you over with the Vector thing is because he was part of Exkirby's Replacement Hydra.
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Guise, just follow my thing. -.-
I would, but I don't trust Neruz to not screw us over.
Ah, I see. So you're replacing him with me, with the idea that I'll follow along?
Ah-ha, ah-hahahaha, ah-hahahahhahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
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Pandarsenic has the power to make any combination of players win at once.
You can trust me. ;+;
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atm it looks like you and Apostolic are the only people active inna thread.
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This game.
Makes NO SENSE!
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This game.
Makes NO SENSE!
Man, I completely forgot you were even in the game. Hiya, doodabuddy!
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It makes perfect sense if you know what's going on.
Except the replacement hydra. I'll admit that one makes no sense.
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This stopped being Mafia a long time ago.
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True, i should not have let that ability into play again. I clearly didn't learn my lesson from MSPA Mafia.
Want me to remove the Hydra? They've served their purpose; to sow confusion and discord.
Great work by the way guys. I was laughing my ass off watching some of the reactions to that.
I'm so glad i used Rule 2 :D
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I think maybe we should cancel this whole thing. We have two active people who are actually playing and nobody knows what's going on. We can't scumhunt, we can't even figure out what the fuck is happening. When you can't trust the mod on anything at all, and the rules aren't consistent... yeah.
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Well if the other players want to end it, we can end it. The inactivity is bothering me a bit too.
The rules are actually consistant btw. I'm just not telling you them.
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... We're at 9/7 players because you made the hydra.
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Lynch Neruz.
Let's bring this bastardry to an end!
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Oh actually with Vector ascending to modhood you should be at 8/7 players. Thankyou for pointing that out.
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Before i got to sleep.
Voite Kawnt (3 to Lynch)
tehstefan [1] (webadict)
The Stephen [1] (ToonyMan)
Apostolic Nihilist [1] (MagmaDeath)
Neruz [2] (Vector, Apostolic Nihilist)
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I apologize for my tawdyness, I didn't mean to not post for so long, life just got in the way.
However, as to what to say, I'm at a loss. What kind of powers are going on, what kind of roles are there, I don't know. However, I'm almost certain lynching the mod is a bad idea.
Webadict why do you consider me scum?
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3 votes to lynch btw.
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Everyone bandwagon Neruz's corpse!
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Neruz! For the good of the land!
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Waitaminute, Vector's co-host now, that means his vote counts.
SHI-
Neruz has been Lynched!
Neruz was a Moderator (Bastard)
It is now Night. Night ends on Tuesday at 0200, GMT+0. Send Vector your Night Actions!
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Thread Unlocked for Vector
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You awaken in the morning and find that ExKirby's Replacement Hydra has disappeared back to Neruz' brain, where it belongs! One tentacle remains to wave a forlorn farewell, but it soon collapses to the ground in a puddle of ichor.
Angels dressed in kilts drift down from the sky and drape laurel crowns on Apostolic Nihilist (who seems to have a bad case of the giggles), Pandarsenic, and Neruz' corpse. Hm. It seems that the Cult of the Laurel Hypnotist King has won!
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Second place, that is.
Aaaaand... that's game, dudes.
Cult chat (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/7SUPQFjxGC2s), and Hive chat (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/rYtxU5qTFCaPw).
Roles:
LeafsnailYou are The Hypnotist!
During the night, you may hypnotise a player. Doing so will roleblock them for that night, additionally while they are hypnotised you may ask them one question, and if they know the answer they will give it to you. When morning comes you erase their memory, and they will not know what happened.
Additionally, you will automatically hypnotise anyone who attempts to use a night action on you, making them think their action succeeded while in reality the action fails.
You are TOWN, you win when only townies remain.
Mod Notes: When somone is hypnotised, they are also turned into a Cultist. The Cultists are informed that Leafsnail is their leader, but that they may not communicate with him and that he knows that he is a cult leader and will flip town on death.
Current Cultists are Pandarsenic and Neruz. Cult Chat is here (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/7SUPQFjxGC2s).tehstefanYou are M.C. Hammer!
At any time during the day you may declare It's Hammer Time! by posting that exact phrase in the thread. Doing so will immediately end the day and lynch the person with the most votes. Unfortunately you are also black, and the police of this town are a little old fashioned; you investigate as guilty.
You are TOWN, you win when only townies remain.
Apostolic NihilistYou are the Bastard Moderator!
Once each day you may choose a statement made by someone other than you in the thread. PM me a quote of the statement, and it will become reality.
During the night you may reverse one player's fate; if they are alive, they will die. If they are dead, they will return to life.
You are INSANE WITH POWER, you win when you build a throne from the skulls of all the other players.
Mod Notes: SK Win ConditionRedWarrior0You are A Zombie!
You like brains. Once each day, you may eat someone's brains. This ovbiously kills them, but grants you a limited 1-shot version of their power. While you're technically a town-aligned survivor role, the fact that you're a Zombie will mean that anyone who investigates you will get a scum result.
You are DEAD.
You win when you are NOT.
Mod Notes: Wins when targeted by Bastard Moderator's Reverse Fate ability. Reverse Fate on the Zombie makes him alive, thus fufilling his win condition of "Not Dead". He then gains the Former Zombie power role.ExKirbyYou are A Lawyer!
Using your amazing grasp of legalese, you may secretly obfuscate the vote during the day, making one person immune to lynching (you may change this person as many times as you like; changing things just makes everything even more confusing!)
During the night, you may bind a player in with legal docments. Doing so will tell you who, if anyone, interacted with that player on the night you bind them.
You are TOWN, but no-one likes Lawyers, so you investigate as guilty.
Mod Notes: Has binding legal documents. If killed, will be replaced with between 1 and 5 players as per contract. These players will be treated as a sort of WIFOM Mafia, given a number of abilities and have votes that do not actually count.PandarsenicYou are the Ballot Counter!
You control the votes, the ballot, the world. You have an extra vote, which you can place under a false name. PM the mod with the vote and the name you wish to place it under (it can be made up if you want). You do not need to use this extra vote if you don't want to.
You may also choose to remove a vote from the ballot at the end of the day; doing so without being noticed is tricky, so you can only do it once per day. PM the mod with the vote you wish to remove, and at the end of the day just before the count is made, it will vanish from the count!
You are TOWN, you win when only townies remain alive. Unfortunately, you have many enemies, enemies who are jealous of your power. You investigate as guilty.
MagmaDeathYou are the Man with Amnesia!
You don't know what your powers are. You don't know what your win condition is. You don't know if you are town or mafia. In fact you don't really know anything.
What you do know is that each night you may search a player's house for clues to your past. Someone must know something, right?
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Also, a forgotten mod note on Apostolic's kill; it bypasses the Hypnotist's protection, as Apostolic does not actually have physical contact with the Hypnotist.
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Screw it, I like my Gigantic Walls of Flavortext. Here they are...
The sun sets with you prepared to reverse MagmaDeath's fate and leave him buried forever. As you begin to clear your mind, however, you hear a floorboard creak. A moment of breathless waiting passes and you close your eyes. You can feel him. He is close. This will be easy, the work of a moment to bring the end of a life.
You smell something odd and, perturbed, leave your meditations again. MagmaDeath stands over you. His eyes are dark, weary, and somewhat unsteady. He is unshaven and filthy. He wears Leafsnail's coat, which is spattered heavily with blood.
In one callused hand he carries a gleaming red pendant on a gold chain, which swings gently before your eyes. It glows in the light of the lamp.
"Look at the pretty jewel," he says. You try to draw your eyes away, but it is impossible. "Look at it. Look here, isn't it lovely?"
"Lovely," you say. You want to kill him and end this tomfoolery, but your mind is clouded.
"Very good," he says. "Yes, very... very good. Now, tell me who I am. Not MagmaDeath--that's a name, you know, and what's in a name? Not much. Who am I? Tell me that one. Tell me."
"I don't know," you say. You are being mostly honest. You could probably find out for him, but you don't feel like helping out the crystal-waving twerp.
"Then tell me what you are," he says. "What do you want from the world? Look at the pretty jewel. Tell me."
The answer is so obvious that you chortle--and once you begin laughing, you cannot stop. It is like an illness, and though you shake your head and tears run down your face, you cannot stop laughing. You laugh until your throat is raw and you keep laughing. You laugh until you feel you might die, and you keep laughing. You laugh until you cannot see and cannot breathe, long after MagmaDeath walks away with heavy footsteps.
You laugh the night away in the light of the lamp. When morning rises, you realize that you have developed a certain fondness for the man who visited you last night. He seemed surprisingly noble.
You are now part of MagmaDeath's cult. Cult chat is here (http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/7SUPQFjxGC2s). You may not communicate with MagmaDeath. He is aware he is a cult leader and will flip town on death.
It's a pretty rough night, and you have a headache. You'd swear that it's a bit like someone's prying at your skull, trying to do something funny... well, who knows these days. You head down the street in the cold, though at least things are better now that you've got Leafsnail's jacket. The weight of his rock in your pocket is satisfying. You have possessions now. Tomorrow, maybe you'll have a name and a place to hang your hat. Tomorrow, maybe you'll know things.
Or maybe you'll just have Apostolic Nihilist's jacket, too. That could be good.
So you walk down the street until you find the little tenement where Apost lives. Seventh-floor walkup, not so easy on your knees, not so pleasant to climb up the fire escape. You climb up. Tomorrow, maybe you'll have a sweet wife and a couple of beautiful kids. Her smile keeps you warm in the icy wind. The laughter of your children keeps you climbing.
It's a wonderfully bittersweet and impossible dream.
Apost's door is unlocked. The man must be insane, but then so is everyone, a little. Your headache worsens as cross the threshold. That's all right; you're so close, and then you'll know what your life was all about.
The floorboards creak as you head in, stomping over a Turkish carpet thick with mud. A faint glow coming from what must be his living room shows black scratches on the walls, like tarry spiderwebs. The man needs to do better maintenance on this place.
Apostolic Nihilist is sitting in what looks like a chair, but might be better called a throne. It is only partially constructed, a yellowed piece of furniture made of human bones and with only half a back. It sits at what would be the center of the spiderweb scratched and painted into the walls.
You take out the stone and walk closer. His eyes are closed, though he breathes lightly. He is pale and gaunt. His fingernails are encrusted with blood.
When he opens his brilliant blue eyes to look at you, they are glowing. Unperturbed, you show him the crystal. You don't know why this comes naturally to you, but it does. It's a gleaming star in a sea of darkness, and you want to hold onto it--not a memory, but some vestige of your past. It belongs to you alone.
"Look at the pretty jewel," you say, swinging it gently on the end of its chain. He sits and he stares, a king dumbfounded. "Look at it. Look here, isn't it lovely?"
"Lovely," he says. He smiles like a wolf, but you don't care--you have power over him, and he cannot hurt you. You are trembling. You can almost taste your past.
"Very good," you say. "Yes, very... very good. Now, tell me who I am. Not MagmaDeath--that's a name, you know, and what's in a name? Not much. Who am I? Tell me that one. Tell me."
"I don't know," he says. You hate him a little, but that's all right. You can take his coat and things will be better. You'll have something of his to make up for what has been taken from you.
"Then tell me what you are," you say. "What do you want from the world? Look at the pretty jewel. Tell me."
You want to know what life is like when you've had chances. You want to know what you could expect from the world if you could only remember. Apostolic Nihilist says nothing. He stares at you for a moment, as though surprised, and then begins to laugh--and once he begins, he does not stop. It is like an illness, and though he shakes his head and tears run from his bright blue eyes, he does not stop laughing. He laughs until his face turns violet, and you decide he is mad... mad with something indefinable that he has and you do not, which you covet and he withholds.
Infuriated and somewhat disturbed, you walk away. Within moments, your dream-wife's kiss is but a memory on your stubbled cheek.
Apostolic Nihilist is Insane with Power.
I decided that after Leafsnail collapsed dead, MagmaDeath nabbed his jacket. Slightly odd, perhaps, but I figured I'd run with it.
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Vector needs to run some sort of symbolic game.
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Cult, eh?
I have a feeling I should've just made true the, "Everyone is a winner!" statement, but such a victory would seem rather unfulfilling.
Bastard Moderator was a brilliant role, but a bit overpowered if used properly, I think. I'm also amazed that ExKirby's power was built into the game -- I expected it was emergent as something so contrived was ridiculous, especially coupled with the fact that he was the first kill.
I enjoyed this game, though I'm not sure how much fun it was for the town players. Looking back, I'm amazed anyone was able to keep a clear head through the fountains of wine that had sprung.
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wow.. that really was insane.
In any case, whoever can provide it of the mods we had here, be sure to send in the attendance results in.
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Vector needs to run some sort of symbolic game.
I keep thinking about it, but I'm having trouble working out the mechanics and turning it into a proper game. It'd certainly be a weird one.
wow.. that really was insane.
Yeah, this is why I love Neruz' games. Neruz, make a BYOR after Webadict's and Dakarian's finish~ I want to play~~
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Vector needs to run some sort of symbolic game.
I keep thinking about it, but I'm having trouble working out the mechanics and turning it into a proper game. It'd certainly be a weird one.
Consider freeform. Of course, wouldn't be Mafia then
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Bastard Moderator is indeed an absolutely brilliant role, but extremely abusable, which is a pity, because it's potentially hilarious when used right.
I found it most amusing when Apostolic made it so that there were no Mafia; there weren't any Mafia to begin with. That was easy.
And yes, the ExKirby replacement was indeed built into his role, although it was fairly vague as to exactly how it would work, it turned out rather well.
Finally, i had the following universal rules:
1 - Anything can be Voted for.
Anything. Apply appropriate lynch results if a non-player is lynched.
2 - Don't Give the Mod Ideas.
No really, don't. Any player may propose an amusing idea, either knowingly or not.
3 - Everyone Loves Magical Trevor
Because the things that he does are ever so clever.
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Also, can we get an explanation of:
1) How the cult won by dying
2) That night you said you'd have to post
3) How Neruz the mod being recruited to the cult was within the rules?
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Vector needs to run some sort of symbolic game.
I keep thinking about it, but I'm having trouble working out the mechanics and turning it into a proper game. It'd certainly be a weird one.
Consider freeform. Of course, wouldn't be Mafia then
Yeah, I was thinking of doing something with a flavortexting mechanic thrown in, in a sort of bastard-mod puzzle thing. I'm not sure I really want to do fully free-form, though. Time constraints and all that.
Hmm.... in any case, I'll think about it. Rest assured that it's in the cooker :)
3 - Everyone Loves Magical Trevor
Because the things that he does are ever so clever.
What in the heck does this mean?
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1) How the cult won by dying
The night Apostolic killed Leafsnail should have ended the Cult, but that same night MagmaDeath searched Leafsnail's apartment and got his role powers. I had considered this in passing previously, and had decided that should this occur, MagmaDeath would become a second Cult Leader, requiring both to die to finish the Cult. I didn't expect Leafsnail to die and MagmaDeath to immediately take his place however :D
2) That night you said you'd have to post
That was the aforementioned night, when Apostolic's PM came in i thought it was all over and it would just be a SK hunt, but when MagmaDeath's PM came in my jaw hit the floor. I absolutely did not see that coming.
Then Leafsnail recruited me into the cult and put a cherry on the cake :D
3) How Neruz the mod being recruited to the cult was within the rules?
It wasn't something i'd originally considered, but as per Rule 1 i was a legitimate vote target, so i decided that i'd also be a legitimate night action target (made sense to me). This was after i was voted for the first time.
The cult recruitment i did not expect, but since i'd already determined that i was a valid night action target, i had to conclude that meant i was now technically a cultist.
What in the heck does this mean?
If you don't get the reference, don't bother. It's just me being silly.
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The funny thing was, I lost from recruiting AN, as I had Tehstefan's affiliation, Town.
Still, it was a great game.
Insane, but great.
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Actually the Hypnotist was Town, that was some of the bastardry; a town role had to be lynched for the town to win.
AN and the other things were just there to form a smokescreen so that no-one would notice until it was too late.
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Right... so...
Did I win?
My question to Pandarsenic, btw, was:
Who are your scumbuddies?
My question to Neruz (as I suddenly realised he was on the playerlist) was:
Who is in the mafia?
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I was town until the cult recruited me. Speaking of which, I still don't understand why cult won.
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I was town until the cult recruited me. Speaking of which, I still don't understand why cult won.
That would be because we ended up with 2 cult v. 2 town, and the cult had a double-vote.
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Whoa, we were that low on people?
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Whoa, we were that low on people?
Indeed--there was only 7 people originally. I think you got confused because of the replacement hydra, which created the illusion of there being far more folks alive.
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I never really was on your side.
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It would be funny if I asked Neruz "Who is scum"?
No, Leafsnail. You are scum.
And then Leafsnail was broked.
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"No! I must kill the Cultists" he shouted
The Bastard Mod said "No, Leafy. You are the Cultists"
And then Leafy was a Hypnotist.
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Wait, wait, I just looked back - didn't Neruz and I *die*? How could AN (the only cultist left) have won, then?
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Wait, wait, I just looked back - didn't Neruz and I *die*? How could AN (the only cultist left) have won, then?
No, you didn't die. Neruz did, but you didn't.
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Oh, hey. I didn't. I thought it said Pandarsenic's and Neruz's corpses. XD
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Nope, that's my corpse you're looking at.
In theory, if tehstefan had put a vote on Leafsnail and then used HAMMER TIME, he could have won. But given how much action tehstefan had in the thread, i sincerely doubted this would occur. Combined with the fact that Pandar was usually pretty quick on the voting and had his double vote, i felt the odds of that occuring were sufficiently remote.
And no Leafsnail, you did not win. Redwarrior0 won with 1st placed, and Me, Pandar and Apostolic placed second. The Hypnotist was a town aligned role with a very anti-town power :D
So if LS had asked, i would have legitimately answered "Pandarsenic and Apostolic are scum"
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Surely "And Neruz"?
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Well i'm not scum until after you ask me the question, you ask me the question while i'm hypnotised, and then i go home, the hypnosis wears off and then i was cultist.