In.Out.
I'm hoping it's the last slot. Is Webadict seriously going to Out? :/
If he is in, then I'll start the game. It's all set and ready to roll
ExKirby 'inned' twice for some reason. He's already slot #7.Hmm... Well, it's not really a Mafia, so I guess I'll in...
Thus before web left we needed one more person. Mr.Person filled the last slot, but Web outed, leaving us back at one.
Btw, ExKirby.. why DID you In twice?
I in twice because I am a loser.
Leafsnail attempts to write in italics, but finds this function mysteriously removed.My guess is that the Bells represent the number of Days. Once we reach Day 5, they will have all started ringing. At that point, we all lose.
Anyway, Zai, how do you explain that book I found in your room entitled "Bell Ringing for Dummies"? Also, what part do you think the bells could be playing in this game?
I'm guessing that, although it's probably not a conventional scumgroup, there is probably someone we're fighting against. The OP says we cannot win in the normal way, but if we can at least identify anyone acting suspiciously it would help somewhat.Well, the normal way is to lynch all the scum. So, what would be a different way...?
Special rules:
No one among you seems to understand why you are here or what you should be doing.
5 Bell can be seen attached to the ceiling. None of them are active. Somehow, you get the feeling that no matter what, the bells must. not. ring!
Players:
1. Pandarsenic
2. Zai
3. inteuniso
4. Vector
5. Leafsnail
6. Webadict
7. ExKirby
8. RedWarrior0
9. Mr.Person
I think we should lynch Vector.
I think we should lynch Vector.
What makes you think the scum are called bellsounder?I think we should lynch Vector.
I think we should lynch you... bellsounder.
Because something tells me that's what the scum want to do. Ring the bells, and kill us all. Why? They have earplugs.
What makes you think the scum are called bellsounder?The title of the game.
What makes you think the scum are called bellsounder?The title of the game.
I vote Lion-O.
What makes you think the scum are called bellsounder?I think we should lynch Vector.
I think we should lynch you... bellsounder.
Because something tells me that's what the scum want to do. Ring the bells, and kill us all. Why? They have earplugs.
What makes you think the scum are called bellsounder?The title of the game.
I vote Lion-O.
All right. Unvote.
Scumteam is intueniso and Zai. You made the classic mistake of answering a question for your scumpartner.
So because zai answered a question for me, that automatically makes me and him scum?
Meh. I dunno about Zai though. I could see inteuniso as scum, but why Zai?So because zai answered a question for me, that automatically makes me and him scum?
Yup.
O NOEZ
HE ANSWERED AN EXTREMELY OBVIOUS QUESTION FOR SOMEONE ELSE AND THIS TOTALLY CORRELATES WITH HIS PAST BEHAVIOR AS TOWN SO OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE BOTH SCUM HA GOT YOUtownSCUM
i scum lololololol
Meh. I dunno about Zai though. I could see inteuniso as scum, but why Zai?So because zai answered a question for me, that automatically makes me and him scum?
Yup.
Why not, Vector?
After all, you did seem to get awfully nervous and call scum on both me and zai after we answered a question about the scum.
In this post I further establish a link between myself and Zai.Also. Obligatory OMGUS.
In this post I further establish a link between myself and Zai.Also. Obligatory OMGUS.
The fact that I never voted for him and just answered his question makes your reasoning faulty... scum.
I think we should lynch Vector.
I think we should lynch you... bellsounder.
Why not, Vector?
After all, you did seem to get awfully nervous and call scum on both me and zai after we answered a question about the scum.
Show me this nervousness and I'll show you scum who picked a bad mislynch, bucko.
inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.^This. Also, Vector seems intentionally scummy. Anyone getting that too?
inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.^This. Also, Vector seems intentionally scummy. Anyone getting that too?
Ooh, I love lemons.
Vector, how can you reach such a fast conclusion-3/4 pages in and you are already fully confident on inteusino?
inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.^This. Also, Vector seems intentionally scummy. Anyone getting that too?
Jester?inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.^This. Also, Vector seems intentionally scummy. Anyone getting that too?
Very, but I dismissed it because why would he do that while going after ineuniso?
Ooh, I love lemons.How can you think making a fast conclusion is scummy?
Vector, how can you reach such a fast conclusion-3/4 pages in and you are already fully confident on inteusino?
I think we should lynch you... bellsounder.Unvote. Inteuniso, this seems a bit overdetailed. What makes you think lynching people will set off bells?
Because something tells me that's what the scum want to do. Ring the bells, and kill us all. Why? They have earplugs.
Scumteam is intueniso and Zai. You made the classic mistake of answering a question for your scumpartner.Vector, you also seem to know a bit more than you should - what makes you think it's a group of two? Also, why is answering a question for someone else such a damning scumtell? I would've thought scum could just suggest the answer to their partner privately.
... I'll admit that I'm getting a bit bored with playing YET ANOTHER carefully controlled game and felt like bitching at somebody. Also, I wanted to take another shot at being Webadict.What exactly do you mean by "carefully controlled"?
I don't, but I've found that (un)voting people makes them talk more. Anyway, I think this is the quickest rundown of dak's guide to scumhunting. I'm convinced. inteuniso is scum.
I thought it was the defition of a very fast day 1.I don't, but I've found that (un)voting people makes them talk more. Anyway, I think this is the quickest rundown of dak's guide to scumhunting. I'm convinced. inteuniso is scum.
ExKirby, that's pretty much the definition of bandwagoning right there.
There's nothing other than the players we can lynch?To take webadict's stock answer, "At least one".
Can we know how many scum there are?
Scumteam is intueniso and Zai. You made the classic mistake of answering a question for your scumpartner.Vector, you also seem to know a bit more than you should - what makes you think it's a group of two? Also, why is answering a question for someone else such a damning scumtell? I would've thought scum could just suggest the answer to their partner privately.
Actually, come to think of it, I guess this attack, while weak, got some results out of inteuniso.
Quote from: Vector... I'll admit that I'm getting a bit bored with playing YET ANOTHER carefully controlled game and felt like bitching at somebody. Also, I wanted to take another shot at being Webadict.What exactly do you mean by "carefully controlled"?
EBWOP: Nine PLAYERS.
I like to be correct.EBWOP: Nine PLAYERS.
Why did you feel the need to correct yourself here?
Why do you feel the need to do nothing productive?EBWOP: Nine PLAYERS.
Why did you feel the need to correct yourself here?
What happens if we try to lynch anyone or anything other than the players?Pay attention. I already voted Lion-O and on the vote count it said I wasn't voting.
Anyway, Zai, how do you explain that book I found in your room entitled "Bell Ringing for Dummies"? Also, what part do you think the bells could be playing in this game?1) I have no room so you are obviously lying scum.
Why did you feel the need to correct yourself here?
Unvote. Vector may be scum for all I know, but the fact is, he is scumhunting.
Unvote. Vector may be scum for all I know, but the fact is, he is scumhunting.
On an unrelated note, I wonder if hammering someone will have a different effect than lynching someone.Why did you feel the need to correct yourself here?
Why do you feel the need to question the fact that he corrected himself?
There will be no lying, no misdirections.
Note that there IS NO TRICK here: a hammer-based lynch works the same as a deadline-based lynch.So no, inteuniso, it will have the same effect. And this sudden change of tack on Vector is suspicious to say the least.
Unvote. Vector may be scum for all I know, but the fact is, he is scumhunting.This is a scummy reply. He should be lynched.
On an unrelated note, I wonder if hammering someone will have a different effect than lynching someone.Why did you feel the need to correct yourself here?
Why do you feel the need to question the fact that he corrected himself?
No, more like "Goddammit, Vector, uh... I'll vote you! There! And, uh, you're nervous! And scum!"
The former reaction could be town or scum. The latter one is pretty much always scum behavior.
inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.
Inteuniso is scum. Period.
Vote him.
It doesn't look like I'm joking. Nobody thought I was but you. Is this game a joke?No, more like "Goddammit, Vector, uh... I'll vote you! There! And, uh, you're nervous! And scum!"
The former reaction could be town or scum. The latter one is pretty much always scum behavior.
Alright, so I did OMGUS you. That's not much of a surprise.
And I called you nervous to try and draw you out of cover. Apparently, that doesn't work as well as I thought it would.
I didn't put a vote on Webadict because I thought he was joking and I was joking too. Didn't want to get him hammered for a joke.inteuniso is scummy. Vector picked a silly thing to attack for but it cracked inteuniso. I don't think Zai is scum though.
Also, Pandarsenic, you're being extremely quick to bandwagon. You did it both times vector said something.Inteuniso is scum. Period.
Vote him.
Anyways, Mr. Person has posted ONCE, and that was to ask ExKirby a RQ.
God, I seriously need to stop replying to Vector's questions 5 pages after he asks them. It always seems to get me into trouble.
I think we should lynch Vector.
Do I look like the sort to make joke votes? No, at that time, I was considering lynching Vector. Then, I figured it was better to lynch you.I think we should lynch Vector.
So this wasn't a joke vote?
I'm a CPR Doctor (when I saw that Int flipped CPR Doc, I assumed that everybody was a CPR Doc). I "protected" Leafsnail, so apparently nobody tried to kill him.
I think the solution might be going a night with no deaths, so maybe we should try that next? If that's not it, the solution might be killing everybody in one night, so we might try that, too.
Yeah.. I'm not a CPR doc. I'm just a regular one. Wonder what the difference is?
Dakarian: Is the random line containing nothing but "Y" at the bottom of my death PM relevant? If you can't answer it publicly, just say "No answer" here and PM it to me and don't make me PM you the damn question.But how? That's the question. Doctors don't revive you. They just stop you from dying.
Web: We were, but we were revivedd.
Keep in mind, the person we lynched came back too, but Leafsnail did not....Well crap, I didn't notice.
Well, sorry about acting scummy you guys. Anyways, I harbor no grudges, and am ready to find out who is behind this.What happened when you were lynched?
The fact is, one of us is behind this. We may not know who it is, but it is most certainly one of us.
In fact, it might even be one of the revived.
@Pandarsenic
While that does make me think I SHOULD play stunts like that on people in future games.
No, that random Y was just a mistype.
What happened when you were lynched?
Dakarian: Is the random line containing nothing but "Y" at the bottom of my death PM relevant? If you can't answer it publicly, just say "No answer" here and PM it to me and don't make me PM you the damn question.But how? That's the question. Doctors don't revive you. They just stop you from dying.
Web: We were, but we were revivedd.
What happened when you were lynched?
I died... but I stayed in my body. I was stuck.
Maybe all the killers are semi-fake, all docs are quack variants and there is an SK. That makes a bit of sense.It might. It might also means he's not at all one.
Panda... wait. That makes Leafsnail a proper killer.
Dayvig SS. And I'm away for the weekend. I'll be able to post more laterLol, someone claimed Vigilante Super-Saint.
today.
A correction. Inteuniso died a Doctor, not a CPR Doctor.
(Mental note: NEVER do this without the original notes)
I'd rather start by doing a night where nobody dies. Less permanent consequences, you see.But death wasn't permanent except for one person, you see.
Vector, what did you do last Night?
I thought everyone might be a CPR doc, so I did nothing.
I'd rather start by doing a night where nobody dies. Less permanent consequences, you see.But death wasn't permanent except for one person, you see.
Vector, what did you do last Night?
Why are we still assuming there's a scum team? There's no reason to assume there is. It's a simple game where we figure out the mechanics. The worst that can happen is we gain information. Perhaps the best is we win.I'd rather start by doing a night where nobody dies. Less permanent consequences, you see.But death wasn't permanent except for one person, you see.
Vector, what did you do last Night?
We don't know why we revived. We have no way of knowing if those revivals are going to continue, how they can be stopped, who gets revived, if they happen more than once, or if anything specifically must happen for revivals to happen.
We just don't know. If we all promise to no-kill, the worst that can happen is somebody dies (or I guess another bell sounds). The worst that can happen if we all die at once is a scum-win. Hmm, I wonder which is safer?
Curious note: The number of revived players is equal to the number of bells that were not rung as of that night.Very curious and observant. I like it. If four of us revive tomorrow, that's the reason.
Vector, maybe a bell ringing means one less revive. Also, considering dak's previous Bastard game, scum probably has some winning information that we don't.The information we need is what causes the bells to ring. I'm thinking maybe it has to do with death. The saying "For whom the bell tolls" is appropriate. Perhaps we are "Saved by the bell" for our revives. Any other bell-related saying might be useful.
Really?Why are we still assuming there's a scum team? There's no reason to assume there is. It's a simple game where we figure out the mechanics. The worst that can happen is we gain information. Perhaps the best is we win.I'd rather start by doing a night where nobody dies. Less permanent consequences, you see.But death wasn't permanent except for one person, you see.
Vector, what did you do last Night?
We don't know why we revived. We have no way of knowing if those revivals are going to continue, how they can be stopped, who gets revived, if they happen more than once, or if anything specifically must happen for revivals to happen.
We just don't know. If we all promise to no-kill, the worst that can happen is somebody dies (or I guess another bell sounds). The worst that can happen if we all die at once is a scum-win. Hmm, I wonder which is safer?
Why or how would no lynching be beneficial? What do we gain? We don't it's incredibly stupid. I'm waiting for someone to win. It'll help us figure out what's wrong.
It was my, Pand, Zai, and Int that revived. Pand and Int are dead, so I'll go ahead and vote Zai. That's my next guess.
It was my, Pand, Zai, and Int that revived. Pand and Int are dead, so I'll go ahead and vote Zai. That's my next guess.
Why, though? How does that follow from any of the rest of the situation?
RedWarrior0 and Leafsnail are also dead. Why do you think the revival will have anything to do with it?
On the other hand, I want to know why you aren't dead. Something funky must have occurred, since I know I definitely tried to kill you.
RedWarrior0 and Leafsnail are also dead. Why do you think the revival will have anything to do with it?
On the other hand, I want to know why you aren't dead. Something funky must have occurred, since I know I definitely tried to kill you.
Extremely obvious: Somebody tried to kill me. Use your fucking head.
Nothing. Not only did I never agree to the plan, but the plan was flawed to begin with. It would of wound up with everybody but me dead, since Int flipped a doctor.
Gah, sorry. I've been mis-telling people my PM:
I'm the anti-Doctor. How this differs from a CPR doctor, I don't know. If it's actually different, I don't know.
...
Huh. Maybe the Doctor and the anti-Doctor were supposed to do stuff to each other.
No, I'm telling you that I read the description and went "Huh, CPR doc!" rather than going "Huh, maybe the fact that he's the anti-Doctor actually has some bearing on the puzzle."
It's a question of names, more than anything else.
No, I'm telling you that I read the description and went "Huh, CPR doc!" rather than going "Huh, maybe the fact that he's the anti-Doctor actually has some bearing on the puzzle."
It's a question of names, more than anything else.
If you aren't lying, then fuck it, I policy lynch extremely stupid mistakes. Lying on your claim, accidental or otherwise, most definitely qualifies.
Say what? How do I not match? I got what I got.No, I'm telling you that I read the description and went "Huh, CPR doc!" rather than going "Huh, maybe the fact that he's the anti-Doctor actually has some bearing on the puzzle."
It's a question of names, more than anything else.
If you aren't lying, then fuck it, I policy lynch extremely stupid mistakes. Lying on your claim, accidental or otherwise, most definitely qualifies.
I understand. It was an extremely stupid mistake, to be sure... though I don't think that unintentional statements of falsehood can be called lying. If you're going to lynch me, lynch me for being dumb. Don't lynch me on a technicality.
Also, make sure Web dies. He doesn't match. That means he's probably fake-claiming.
Two bells ring.Huzzah!
I think a bell rings every time we hit "game over." So there's some sort of puzzle that we're missing here; I don't think the answer is "kill everyone." I think there's something else going on that we're supposed to be doing and figuring out, and I think that Webadict was onto something when he mentioned the "saved by the bell" and "the bell that tolls for you" statements.Yes, that makes sense, but I'm still confused about why everyone died that first Night but didn't really die.
In other words, I don't think the bells are just counters. I think they control the game in some way.
1. Pandarsenic - RedirectorI will add my role to the list - I am a Bodyguard. I protected webadict on night one. Something odd happened after I was killed night one, though - I was told I was being "cleared away" by someone, and that my body had been hidden. I suppose this is why I had no roleflip.
2. Zai - day poisoner whose kills go through at night
3. inteuniso - Doctor (Roleflipped)
4. Vector - Anti-Doctor
5. Leafsnail - No claim, no roleflip
6. Webadict - Copycat (roleflipped)
7. ExKirby - double-killer
8. RedWarrior0 - Dayvig SuperSaint (roleflipped)
9. Mr.Person - CPR doctor
I'm starting to wonder if the goal is to have everyone action but no one die. We have an interesting medley of protective and killing roles.
1. Pandarsenic - RedirectorThe main problem I see is that Zai is a poisoner, and poison cannot be blocked.
2. Zai - day poisoner whose kills go through at night
3. inteuniso - Doctor (Roleflipped)
4. Vector - Anti-Doctor
5. Leafsnail - Body Guard
6. Webadict - Copycat (roleflipped)
7. ExKirby - double-killer
8. RedWarrior0 - Dayvig SuperSaint (roleflipped)
9. Mr.Person - CPR doctor
Guys, I was thinking about this and it CANNOT be that simple. Dak said we still need our daygame, which means we have scum among us and we have to figure out how to deal with them while avoiding them reviving or whatever.
Vector, shut up.
Whoever is giving out ideas is basically stealing them from me. Which means they're trying to ring bells. I'm going to see what happens when nothing happens. No actions. Nothing.
Guys, I was thinking about this and it CANNOT be that simple. Dak said we still need our daygame, which means we have scum among us and we have to figure out how to deal with them while avoiding them reviving or whatever.
Yeah, but Dak also likes pattern-puzzles. This is a pattern-puzzle, and they've found themselves in trouble by virtue of having the "wrong roles." Now that we know all the roles definitively (except perhaps Zai's), we know who we have to speedy quick-hammer in the morning.
Why do we need the day-game? Because we need to find out which roles are which. We must lynch so that we can trust each other, and we must lynch those who would provide random information.
Please note that RedWarrior0 is lurking even more than he usually does, and that Zai is not only 1. less silly than usual (I hear it is a serious scumtell with him) and 2. did not tell us who he poisoned, ever, or even discuss our plans.
They are both scum, and we need to figure out what to do with them.
Bodyguard (town; common; 4+ players): You can guard another player. If that player would be killed, you and the attacker will kill each other instead. Actions: guard
I would tell you who I killed if I had actually killed anybody. I have yet to use my role.
Feel free to lynch me if that fits into some sort of plan.
What was everyone's actions every Night?
Why has no one posted?
Excuses excuses. That's all I'm hearing scumbreathe.What was everyone's actions every Night?
N1: Nothing
N2: Actioned Mr. Person
N3: Actioned ZaiWhy has no one posted?
I'm three hours earlier than you, which means that I sleep at 5 AM your time and get up at 2 in the afternoon.
I would hammer, but that would be scummish, no?
Webadict: What?It doesn't matter right now. I just need everyone's actions from all Days. I'm going to solve this puzzle. I know how to do it, but I need all the actions.
Action: Guarded noone.
What do you think we should do today? Personally... I think we could try having everyone night action and noone die. Although I still think Vector and ExKirby are most likely scum.
Okay... I need to test a few things. I do know a few things:
1. When all 5 bells ring, we lose.
2. There is a mafia.
I just need to figure out some things.
So, RedWarrior0, I need you to Day kill Vector.
Don't worry, you're going to be killed next.Okay... I need to test a few things. I do know a few things:
1. When all 5 bells ring, we lose.
2. There is a mafia.
I just need to figure out some things.
So, RedWarrior0, I need you to Day kill Vector.
Webadict, I'd like to hear the rest of your plan before we do anything.
Still not convinced.
But all we need to do is make it so that there's two people left tomorrow.
What? No, I'm saying everyone needs to die.But all we need to do is make it so that there's two people left tomorrow.
... Right.
Only the scumteam, which you said I was on... and now suddenly I'm not on. You're scum, aren'tcha.
Before we even consider doing anything, I'd like to point out that Webadict himself still hasn't claimed.I actually did claim my actions. But, nice try being suspicious. :P
... Right.He didn't say anything of the sort, Vector.
Only the scumteam, which you said I was on... and now suddenly I'm not on. You're scum, aren'tcha.
Quote... Right.He didn't say anything of the sort, Vector.
Only the scumteam, which you said I was on... and now suddenly I'm not on. You're scum, aren'tcha.
Extension.
...I killed Panda N1, remember?
It's just a theory, but perhaps the scum needs to sacrifice someone in order to perform revivals? So maybe I was sacrifice for the revivals Night One while Pandar was sacrificed for the revivals Night Three?Well, that makes sense if inteuniso is scum, because... Well because then he came back to life.
Four bells now ringHuzzah!
SurvivorsOn all four of these days, we've ALL been alive. Therefore, I believe this is how a bell is rung - when everyone is alive at the start of the day, a bell goes off. Therefore the scum WANTS us alive. They might need to sacrifice people (such as myself N1 and Pandar N2) to do this, but it seems their main aim is to keep us all alive. Since we're running out of time, I believe we need to try killing ALL of us off. If they want us alive to win, I believe we need to be dead in order for them to lose. This may explain the lack of win condition in our role pms.
Pandarsenic
Zai
inteuniso
Vector
Leafsnail
Webadict
ExKirby
RedWarrior0
Mr.Person
Wait, Vector, I don't understand what you're proposing. Shouldn't you get Zai to hammer RedWarrior0 if you want them both death?
Hammer has fallen!
Inteuniso: Doctor, has been lynched.
It is now night. Night roles, send me your choices.
Here's your proof of me flipping alignment.Yes. First you must unvote. Also, how in the GHELL does the fact that you flipped doctor prove alignment?Hammer has fallen!
Inteuniso: Doctor, has been lynched.
It is now night. Night roles, send me your choices.
I agree with hammering RedWarrior. Best of luck to you.
the fifth bell starts to ring.Huzzah!
Ergo, I was right!You were right in every sense except that I was the one who needed to be dayvigged. So... you sorta broke the bastard element, but didn't find the serial
Eat that!
2. Knowledge. This was the Pandarsenic scumtell of Don't Out Guess The Mod. The person that seems to know the most isn't town since the town is 'uninformed'. Note Leafsnail's discussion after his revive and on the second to last day wasn't the only "hmm maybe it's like this" talk but that should've made people wonder about him.Not always true.
Sidenote: Thanks for CobaltKobold for the commentary. The Huzzahs cracked me up for some reason :D.>_>
By 'commentary' I refer only to the Huzzahs.I'd've said more, but it seemed like that would impart information. So, I ended up with merely "Huzzah!"x5.
You need to get it scanned proper first really, desu.
I figured it out, and I would've won had dakarian not ragequit the last Day. After that, I was pretty much sure we lost....how'd the host ragequit?
I won. That's pretty much it.
Also, this proves that I really, really, REALLY hate RedWarrior0.
I won. That's pretty much it.Webadict, you needed RW0 to dayvig me. You can't really blame him for anything... I mean, if you had said "Kill Leafsnail" and he didn't, maybe you could, but he was just following our orders.
Also, this proves that I really, really, REALLY hate RedWarrior0.
Only person that didn't do anything was ExKirby (night actions comming soon).Only because I was worried. Very worried.
No, I mean he was gone a vast majority of the Day.Not sure how that made such a difference, though.
Because he lurks hardcore.
Well, EK, now we know the secret, it's gonna be pretty tough for scum to pull of a win. Town effectively gets two guesses a day.Do you really think I would pull of the same stunt twice? I have an diea for a different method of play.