Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 07:40:15 pm
In uPick, you send a role to the mod and the mod assigns powers to you. In other words, you, the player, choose your role.
This is not uPick. This is iPick.
I will control-click the "Random Article" button on Wikipedia 2N+4 times (where N is the number of players signed up) and select N articles' names as the role names of the players. These articles (but not which ones were chosen as roles) shall be displayed in the first post. Otherwise, this will work as any other Mafia game.
Voting: Place votes in red. Do not color Fingers of Suspicion. Do not use any other color in your post except where roles demand or allow. When unvoting, place your unvote in red with the name of whom your are unvoting.
PMing: Disallowed (Mafia ONLY, if Quickchat does not suffice)
Hammering: Semi-Allowed (Hammer ends Day, Phases are timed [48-72 Hour Days barring extensions or shortening, 24 Hour Nights, Weekends count as half their actual length])
Quoting Mod: ALWAYS Disallowed
Editing: ALWAYS Disallowed
Never under or overestimate your own significance.
Failure to submit a night action or to PM me that you are not acting at night will result in a modkill. No exceptions for town; for mafia, a prod will be issued. The night attendance statements may be lies/half-truths/bent-truths, at my discretion.
PLAY TO WIN!
Players:
01. Webadict
02.
03.
04.
05.
06.
07. Jokerman-EXE - Survivor, Victorious
08.
09.
10.
11. tehstefan
12. Vector - replaced by Darkness3313 - Darkness3313 force-replaced by Vector.... ._.;
13.
Possible roles:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Day 1: Nirur Torir self-hammers
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Nirur Torir - Townie, Jacob (Henriquez) de Castro Sarmento
You are a Portuguese physician, naturalist, and poet. You are a medicinally talented individual and if you visit somebody at night, you can perform SCIENCE on them to save them from being killed. If they're killed. If they're not, you might get a bit overeager and accidentally perform a "medical misadventure" on them, though....
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Night 1:
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Leafsnail - Townie, Blackwood-Harwood Plantations Cemetery
You are a historic cemetery. All players who die in this game are buried on your grounds, and as long as you are alive you may communicate freely with them. Once per game, you can can use your extensive experience with dead people to determine whether a particular string of uninterrupted words of any length is entirely truthful or not entirely truthful. Despite, y'know. Being a cemetery.
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Day 2:
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Dakarian- Jester, WAO!! (album)
OH GOD THE ENGRISH MAKE IT GO AWAY. You are an album by a J-ska band. And guess what, YOU'RE A GODDAMN SLEEPING GOD BECAUSE I HAVE AN IRRATIONAL LOVE FOR INCLUSION OF SLEEPING GODS! Check your wikipedia article for the tracklist, which is your list of abilities. Oh, and because random.org gave you a "third party" draw, you're a Jester. Being responsible for those damn rules should make it easier for you to get lynched, though. Good luck!
You win when you are lynched.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Night 2:
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Mr.Person - Townie, Rayman Ravings Rabbids TV Party
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA the chaos and confusion you cause allow you to redirect DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA any player to any player DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA but you can't target yourself.
You win when all scum are DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (dead).
This player did not know his BOOSTed power
Day 3:
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ToonyMan - Mafia, Jan Inge Sørbø
You are a Norwegian philologist, author, and poet. You may read your poetry to someone, consuming their night. Their action will be delayed to the next night. You are also immune to being delayed.
You win when it is impossible for you to lose.
[Boost: You feel your voice... volume... increasing substantially. You can read your poetry to any number of people, roleblocking them, but everyone you block will recognize your voice the next day. You retain your delay ability.]
Night 3: Jokerman-EXE has entirely disappeared from existence!
Day 4: Modkilled for inactivity:
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Diakron - Mafia, Input Selection
You are a mathematical modelling and system identification term. Each night, you are told what actions are targeted on you. You may convert any of these actions into any other of the actions performed on you. i.e. You are naively investigated, protected, and killed. You can convert the kill and the protection into a naive investigation. This means you are effectively kill-immune as long as you are not only targeted by kills. If you are able to experience four BOOSTs simultaneously, you ascend to godhood and leave the game. This is a win for you that does not affect any other player.
You win when it is impossible for you to lose.
When BOOSTed, you gain this ability:
[Boost: You may, in place of taking a night action, lose only one of the BOOSTs applied to you (if you have two or more).]
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CobaltKobold - Townie, Hai-Fu Power Station
You are a Japanese powerplant. Each night you may give POWER to any single targeted player. This player will have enough POWER to be BOOSTed for the following day and night, and gain a BOOSTed version of their role for that duration.
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power
Lynched:
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SirBayer - Serial Killer, Young Love <DoomspeakerWhatever would be a thing that kills everyone else after X nights>
You are an album of terrible music. You are an abomination and on the third night, your music will begin to be played. And everyone will die.
You win when everyone besides you is dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Night 4:
Nothing to see, citizen. Move along.
Day 5:
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Eduren - Mafia, Every Child (film)
You are a depressing movie ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCmU3j6AASo ) with an uplifting end asking for donations. You may arrange a viewing for someone, roleblocking them as they watch you (and depressing them for the rest of the night). They will then donate enough money for you to BOOST any player that night.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 07:41:39 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 07:42:39 pm
Analyzing Articles
Writing Wikipedia Articles into AI format
Error, Alignments on Articles
BZZZT WHIRR BANG PEWPEW
Missing. Defaulting to alignment "Evil."
Wait, why is "Evil" the default alignment!? That doesn't even-
Running simulation. Day ends 5 PM Pacific Time on Tuesday.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 05, 2010, 07:42:53 pm
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Leafsnail why do you know more than I?I am, apparently, better at taking inferences from rules.
Post by: Eduren on March 05, 2010, 07:45:04 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 05, 2010, 07:46:23 pm
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 07:48:57 pm
Hi there, tehstefan. I hear you were involved in some kind of Gangsta Party?I don't believe you. Die, scum! To the electric chair with you!QuoteLeafsnail why do you know more than I?I am, apparently, better at taking inferences from rules.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 05, 2010, 07:50:27 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 05, 2010, 07:51:39 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 05, 2010, 07:53:30 pm
So it is, Eduren. So it is.Whats this?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 05, 2010, 07:57:10 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 05, 2010, 08:04:15 pm
I think that's called a random vote. I'm still new though. :PSo it is, Eduren. So it is.Whats this?
Maybe I can actually live long enough to learn something, this game.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 08:05:44 pm
- Unfinalized rule (now likely)
- Bullshit Bastardry to distract the town
- Limited Exceptions to Rule
Well, you selected one of the possible interpretations and then the mod confirmed it, in a way suggesting that you knew this stuff. But, there are other reasons that could be. Like you asking him about it in PM. So it's the randomvotepicker.
So, Leafy, welche ,,Roles'' möchtest du?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 08:09:25 pm
1) They were related to abilties I was considering, removed during the balance phase. Neither one is possible, so he could not have a role allowing him to.
2) Trying that manner of meta is possible or likely to backfire.
Post by: Diakron on March 05, 2010, 08:09:58 pm
Post by: SirBayer on March 05, 2010, 08:10:54 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 08:13:41 pm
WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONSThat...can't work. You didn't e'en include anythin' to talk 'bout.
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
I'm going to warn you of two things:Mmm.Fire gooood.
1) They were related to abilties I was considering, removed during the balance phase. Neither one is possible, so he could not have a role allowing him to.
2) Trying that manner of meta is possible or likely to backfire.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 05, 2010, 08:23:26 pm
Nirur Torir, why do you have a space in your name?Although I admit that it would be more dwarfy to be named Nirurtorir, I have humanized it with a space.
Why does your name lack a space? Were you feeling particularly scummy when you created your account?
Post by: Vector on March 05, 2010, 08:37:53 pm
Post by: webadict on March 05, 2010, 08:39:14 pm
WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONSMR.PERSON YOU ARE CLEARLY SCUM!
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
Let us refer to the evidence. His name has a period in it. It is... a USERNAME! *gasps*
Furthermore, between the period and the following word there... LACKS A SAPCE! *more shocked gasps*
And if that weren't enough, your avatar is stupid. Go cry over business, pal. We all know Leno sucks, but who the heck cares that much? *startled gasps, a woman faints*
I therefore conclude that you are scum.
That or town.
Post by: dakarian on March 05, 2010, 08:42:16 pm
Dakarian, if i had 3 apples and 2 of them are green what is the least number of cats on my lap?
Depends on three factors:
If the apples are in bite sized pieces:
C= X/4 cats
X= the surface area of your lap in square inches
C= the number of cats (the answer)
If the apples are whole
0
If the apples are covered in shrimp
7/0
Meanwhile
CobaltKobold why did Diakron give me such a useless question?
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 05, 2010, 08:56:36 pm
That leaves...Toony and tehstefan.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on March 05, 2010, 09:13:19 pm
Post by: Archangel on March 05, 2010, 09:19:35 pm
Waasnt I signed up for spoilspec?I think I was too.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 05, 2010, 09:20:19 pm
Post by: webadict on March 05, 2010, 09:24:29 pm
Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!Dakarian, if i had 3 apples and 2 of them are green what is the least number of cats on my lap?
Depends on three factors:
If the apples are in bite sized pieces:
C= X/4 cats
X= the surface area of your lap in square inches
C= the number of cats (the answer)
If the apples are whole
0
If the apples are covered in shrimp
7/0
Meanwhile
CobaltKobold why did Diakron give me such a useless question?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 05, 2010, 10:45:32 pm
I think that's called a random vote. I'm still new though. :P
Maybe I can actually live long enough to learn something, this game.
If you learn nothing else, you MUST learn that you aren't allowed to edit your posts in mafia games.
Post by: tehstefan on March 05, 2010, 11:18:22 pm
Leafsnail however, seems to have intimate knowledge of gangsters and their parties! He must be scum!
Post by: Diakron on March 05, 2010, 11:31:48 pm
Nirur Torir care to rejoin us? i didn't get anything from you last time :D
Post by: Leafsnail on March 06, 2010, 07:12:56 am
A gangster party? I've not even heard of it!Tehstefan appears not to have read the OP! But never mind, unvote.
Leafsnail however, seems to have intimate knowledge of gangsters and their parties! He must be scum!
Post by: Leafsnail on March 06, 2010, 07:17:14 am
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So, Leafy, welche ,,Roles'' möchtest du?Leafsnail mag der "rolefishing" nicht.
Diakron, do you think this question is aimed at you or the other similarly named player here?
Post by: webadict on March 06, 2010, 08:18:39 am
Unvote DakarianLooking for lurkers already, scumbag?
Nirur Torir care to rejoin us? i didn't get anything from you last time :D
Post by: dakarian on March 06, 2010, 08:39:22 am
Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!
Because RVS isn't for useless OMGUS. It's for reading people properly.
Webadict, you SAW me do this last time, saw the result. Why are you trying it again?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 08:52:41 am
ToonyMan, if you were on the scumteam, who else would you pick to be on it with you, amongst the current players?
Me, Myself, and Irene.
Vote Webadict for faux attitude.
Post by: webadict on March 06, 2010, 08:54:08 am
unvoteI saw you do what? Defend yourself? Deflect? Use meta? Be scummy? OMGUS? Yeah, I see lots of things, scumbag.Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!
Because RVS isn't for useless OMGUS. It's for reading people properly.
Webadict, you SAW me do this last time, saw the result. Why are you trying it again?
That's like Schrodinger's Cat. Everyone is that cat but the observer, unless that observer is scum, except that that doesn't mean that every other potential observer is town either, so it's still like that, except you know who your teammates are, as opposed to the town. But, to the town, every person is scum and town at the same time until that person is dead, where their alignment is shown.
Showed you.
See? This is why I wish I had an Assassin Bot...ToonyMan, if you were on the scumteam, who else would you pick to be on it with you, amongst the current players?
Me, Myself, and Irene.
Vote Webadict for faux attitude.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 08:57:58 am
You're maybe dead.
Post by: webadict on March 06, 2010, 09:00:55 am
I used Schrodinger's gun on you.You won't know until I post.
You're maybe dead.
Post by: dakarian on March 06, 2010, 09:26:29 am
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 09:31:44 am
Unvote DakarianJust three hours after my last post? I declare your random vote to be invalid; ask a better question.
Nirur Torir care to rejoin us? i didn't get anything from you last time :D
Irene isn't playing, and Pandarsenic would not the same IP being used for two people in scumchat. Please answer the question, rather then deflecting.ToonyMan, if you were on the scumteam, who else would you pick to be on it with you, amongst the current players?
Me, Myself, and Irene.
Vote Webadict for faux attitude.
Post by: SirBayer on March 06, 2010, 09:37:21 am
Nirur Torir, why do you have a space in your name?Although I admit that it would be more dwarfy to be named Nirurtorir, I have humanized it with a space.
Why does your name lack a space? Were you feeling particularly scummy when you created your account?
1. Because my spacebar had been mysteriously and forcibly removed from the keyboard.
2. Actually, I was feeling like a butterfly floating freely into the sky, singing Gregorian Chants all the way, but that was because it was way too late and apparently the medication had set in already.
That's beside the point.
Parroting Vector: Name your top three scumbuddies from the list.
Good morning, SirBayer. Name your top three scumbuddies from this game's player list.
1.Vector
2.Vector
3.Vector
Yeah, I want three clones of you. That would be awesome.
WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONSMR.PERSON YOU ARE CLEARLY SCUM!
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
Let us refer to the evidence. His name has a period in it. It is... a USERNAME! *gasps*
Furthermore, between the period and the following word there... LACKS A SAPCE! *more shocked gasps*
And if that weren't enough, your avatar is stupid. Go cry over business, pal. We all know Leno sucks, but who the heck cares that much? *startled gasps, a woman faints*
I therefore conclude that you are scum.
That or town.
"If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit."
Webadict, why is it that when I read your posts they normally make sense easily, but when I went down there and read that one, it kind of... didn't?
Post by: SirBayer on March 06, 2010, 09:38:03 am
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 09:45:09 am
1) Vector could teach me much.
2) As could Dakarian.
3) SirBayer, I feel that listening to Vector and Dakarian correct you would also be a good learning experience for me. Plus, you could be bussed if the pressure started to get uncomfortable.
I notice that you're dodging Vector's question with a joke. Afraid to answer it?
Post by: Vector on March 06, 2010, 01:33:44 pm
Parroting Vector: Name your top three scumbuddies from the list.Good morning, SirBayer. Name your top three scumbuddies from this game's player list.
1.Vector
2.Vector
3.Vector
Yeah, I want three clones of you. That would be awesome.
Answer the question, scumbucket. I'm flattered, but you need to quit buddying and start actually answering people's questions.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 06, 2010, 02:36:26 pm
You 'see' a lot of things but don't act properly on them.
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
Why didn't you ask him "Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance?"
Which, btw, I am now asking Webadict. Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance? By that, I mean, why are you saying the possibilities? What purpose does it serve?
Post by: webadict on March 06, 2010, 04:25:59 pm
You 'see' a lot of things but don't act properly on them.What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
But, it's nice to see you're freaking out, trying to find anything you can. I mean, it's not like you to be so demanding on things, nor is it like you to simply ignore everything I said to straight up attack me. Basically, you're dodging all of my attacks to attack me, which is incredibly scummy of you, scumbag.
I'm not the one who OMGUS'd here (Well, I OMGUS'd Mr.Person for the fun of it), nor am I the one that is attacking their attacker without defending. I mean, it's like you don't really care about answering questions. You just want to see someone lynched. You're making no attempt to defend yourself, nor are you really attacking.
So, instead of making vague argument about my scummitude, why not a real attack, scumbag? Because if you're going to royally contradict yourself, then why are you even bothering?
I'd want no scumbuddies. I'd rather be in a cult of some sort.I was thinking a lot about Schrodinger's Cat ... today? Yesterday? I don't remember when. Just that I was and wanted to talk about it.You 'see' a lot of things but don't act properly on them.
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
Why didn't you ask him "Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance?"
Which, btw, I am now asking Webadict. Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance? By that, I mean, why are you saying the possibilities? What purpose does it serve?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 04:55:52 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 05:19:28 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 06:12:32 pm
Toony, why won't you give me a real answer to my question?
I don't know, maybe I can do it now?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 06:13:16 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 06:35:10 pm
Tehstefan, you've only posted once, and that was to throw a vote at the person random voting you. Which 3-person scumteam would you most fear in this game, and why is each person on that list?
Post by: Eduren on March 06, 2010, 06:43:47 pm
Does Toony want to bring some real accusations?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 06:51:18 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 06, 2010, 07:04:24 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 07:12:39 pm
Does Toony want to bring some real accusations?
Yes.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 06, 2010, 07:14:14 pm
*slips a vote under Vector's ten mattresses, sees if it's noticed*
'ector, how high do you jump? Where do you li'e? Who do you want as allies and why?
This just in: Eduren's hell is yes or no questions. Eduren: Are you scum?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 06, 2010, 07:15:35 pm
Quote from: Pandarsenic
Voting: Place votes in red. Do not color Fingers of Suspicion. Do not use any other color in your post except where roles demand or allow. When unvoting, place your unvote in red with the name of whom your are unvoting.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 07:20:19 pm
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Does Toony want to bring some real accusations?
To:
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ToonyMan, you keep talking, yet have said nothing. Stop active-lurking and scumhunt, you slime covered lump of mold. Either explain why you would prefer to ally with Pandarsenic and Vector, and then start scumhunting, or your filth will be purged from this game in the cleansing fires of a lynch.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 07:20:42 pm
Much appreciated.Quote from: PandarsenicVoting: Place votes in red. Do not color Fingers of Suspicion. Do not use any other color in your post except where roles demand or allow. When unvoting, place your unvote in red with the name of whom your are unvoting.
Post by: Eduren on March 06, 2010, 07:25:57 pm
This just in: Eduren's hell is yes or no questions. Eduren: Are you scum?No.
Eduran: the intent of the question isn't the problem. The delivery is the problem. Compare:'Twas implied my good man.QuoteDoes Toony want to bring some real accusations?
To:QuoteToonyMan, you keep talking, yet have said nothing. Stop active-lurking and scumhunt, you slime covered lump of mold. Either explain why you would prefer to ally with Pandarsenic and Vector, and then start scumhunting, or your filth will be purged from this game in the cleansing fires of a lynch.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 06, 2010, 07:27:14 pm
Ah.Much appreciated.Quote from: PandarsenicVoting: Place votes in red. Do not color Fingers of Suspicion. Do not use any other color in your post except where roles demand or allow. When unvoting, place your unvote in red with the name of whom your are unvoting.
Are unvotes required or optional?
Webadict, why is it that when I read your posts they normally make sense easily, but when I went down there and read that one, it kind of... didn't?Is this in violation of said rule you just repeated?
If they're not strictly required, the present apparent 'otecount is concealed in my last post. Otherwise I'd need to refigure to stop switches sans prior proper unvotes.
Post by: Eduren on March 06, 2010, 07:31:05 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 07:35:09 pm
Post by: tehstefan on March 06, 2010, 07:39:07 pm
However, in light of answering your question, If I had a three person scum team, it would be pandar, toony and web, all experienced players who know how to play mafia.
I've played with toony and pandar, and their fiercesome scum, and I've played against web, and know what kind of terror he can be. All of them are very hard to fight as scum, and all of them together would be very hard.
Likewise to you Nirur, if you had to have one person on your scum team, who would it be?
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 06, 2010, 07:42:22 pm
Thank you, unvote.
unvote
Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!(he didn't un'ote)
But never mind, unvote.which would mo'e my 'ote from 'ector back to leaf, Nirur's from tehstefan to toon, eduren's from Toon to JEXE, Dakarian's from me to web, web's from dakarian to Mr.Person
PPEduren: They're called apostrophes. My v key is semifunctional.
Quote from: sig
[CULL_SYMBOL:SOME:KEYS] Neither whole, nor broken.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 07:53:41 pm
Nirur's from tehstefan to toonWhat? I unvoted.
Nirur, you know that your not exactly one to be blaming others of inactivity.Just one person? Probably Vector, for the learning experience and the skill.
However, in light of answering your question, If I had a three person scum team, it would be pandar, toony and web, all experienced players who know how to play mafia.
I've played with toony and pandar, and their fiercesome scum, and I've played against web, and know what kind of terror he can be. All of them are very hard to fight as scum, and all of them together would be very hard.
Likewise to you Nirur, if you had to have one person on your scum team, who would it be?
I'm trying to improve my natural lurker tendencies, and I think only playing one game at a time will help. If I can get over my strange fear of attacking players I perceive as being noticably more skilled then myself. Unvote.
Eduran. How do you intend to find scum if you don't apply psychological pressure?
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 06, 2010, 07:57:22 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 07:59:21 pm
Post by: Vector on March 06, 2010, 08:04:54 pm
Leafsnail is being particularly slow.
*slips a vote under Vector's ten mattresses, sees if it's noticed*
'ector, how high do you jump? Where do you li'e? Who do you want as allies and why?
Noticed indeed.
I jump as high as I can and live in the math library. For allies I prefer Courage, Ambition, and Reason. What man can pray to break the egg of the world without those fine friends?
If you mean "in the context of this game, in general": I'd really like webadict and Dakarian to be town, because they're powerful players and I'm not fabulous at reading them.
If you meant in terms of players and a 3-man scumteam, I'd probably take you and Dakarian. You're both quite skilled at arguing and don't tend to get lynched too much, and it's been a while/never since I last scummed about with either.
Post by: SirBayer on March 06, 2010, 09:03:01 pm
Parroting Vector: Name your top three scumbuddies from the list.Good morning, SirBayer. Name your top three scumbuddies from this game's player list.
1.Vector
2.Vector
3.Vector
Yeah, I want three clones of you. That would be awesome.
Answer the question, scumbucket. I'm flattered, but you need to quit buddying and start actually answering people's questions.
Well, if you insist, but I have an awful hard time choosing scumteams, since I really never end up on them, and I've never really experienced any success on them.
1. Vector. Still.
2. ToonyMan. Hilariously hard to read.
3. Dakarian. Town-game is mildly legendary, scum-game is nearly as good.
My top three scumbuddies?
1) Vector could teach me much.
2) As could Dakarian.
3) SirBayer, I feel that listening to Vector and Dakarian correct you would also be a good learning experience for me. Plus, you could be bussed if the pressure started to get uncomfortable.
I notice that you're dodging Vector's question with a joke. Afraid to answer it?
Well, fuck you too.
No, not so much. Only scum are afraid to answer questions, and I'm not scum.
WEBBY (since I can't color): Why didn't you ever answer my question? It's just as legitimate as any other.
Did I miss any other questions?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
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I have an awful hard time choosing scumteams, since I really never end up on them
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No, not so much. Only scum are afraid to answer questions, and I'm not scum.Number of scumtells I count: 3.
1) Claiming to not be scum.
2) Overly defensive and not attacking.
3) Clearly stressed out while answering questions.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 06, 2010, 09:38:44 pm
Unvote Eduren. I still want an answer, but my RVS stage has ended. For now, at least.
Vote SirBayer.
Post by: Eduren on March 06, 2010, 09:43:04 pm
Eduran. How do you intend to find scum if you don't apply psychological pressure?Why do you insist on misspelling my name?
Anyway, I realize that without pressuring I can't do much.
Unvote because I have don't know where my vote lies due to Pandars rules.
Mr. Person, you are sidelining. Suspicions?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 09:52:15 pm
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Saved as of http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=50568.msg1068706#msg1068706 because this votecount was ridiculous.
Actual current votecount:
Leafsnail [1]: tehstefan
tehstefan [None]:
Jokerman-EXE [None]:
webadict [1]: Dakarian
Eduren [1]: Jokerman-EXE
ToonyMan[None]:
Dakarian [None]:
Nirur Torir [2]: SirBayer, Diakron
SirBayer[2]: Vector, Nirur Torir
Mr.Person [2]: webadict, Eduren
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [1]: Leafsnail
Vector [1]: CobalKobold
13 alive, 7 to hammer
I'm being generous about the unvoting rules for the moment because this game, being much smaller, doesn't force me to scroll through 17 people to see who (if anyone) you voted, but PLEASE make my life easier and do what I say when unvoting.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 06, 2010, 09:54:36 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 06, 2010, 09:57:44 pm
Leafsnail [1]: tehstefan
tehstefan [None]:
Jokerman-EXE [None]:
webadict [2]: Dakarian, ToonyMan
Eduren [1]: Jokerman-EXE
ToonyMan[None]:
Dakarian [None]:
Nirur Torir [2]: SirBayer, Diakron
SirBayer[2]: Vector, Nirur Torir
Mr.Person [2]: webadict, Eduren
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [1]: Leafsnail
Vector [1]: CobalKobold
13 alive, 7 to hammer
Post by: Mr.Person on March 06, 2010, 10:22:12 pm
Eduran. How do you intend to find scum if you don't apply psychological pressure?Why do you insist on misspelling my name?
Anyway, I realize that without pressuring I can't do much.
Unvote because I have don't know where my vote lies due to Pandars rules.
Mr. Person, you are sidelining. Suspicions?
I don't do the RVS well. I also lack suspicions, which means I have to go ask some questions. I don't have any right now, nor do I have the time to make some right now, so I'll be back a teensy bit later with some hard questions.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 07, 2010, 12:01:14 am
Quote from: The Real Votecount
01. Web:(2)+daka17, +toony18
02. Leaf:tehstefan14,
03. SirB:(2)'ect9+Nirr25
04. Mr.P:
05. Diak:leaf16
06. Daka: Web12.
07. JEXE:Ed3
08. Nirr:(2)SirB8, Diak15
09. Edur:JEXE4
10. Toon: +ed22
11. stef:
12. Vect:CK23
13. CK :
Spoiler: notes (click to show/hide)
Perhaps someone should make a tracker.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 07, 2010, 12:02:57 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 07, 2010, 12:55:08 am
Post by: webadict on March 07, 2010, 01:55:46 am
Happy now?
dakarian.
Aso, SirBayer, which questions were you asking me? The "Not making sense" thing? I dunno. Maybe you're taking some drugs that stop you from comprehending. Maybe you got dropped on your head. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's merely temporary.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 07, 2010, 02:07:30 am
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 07, 2010, 09:09:23 am
It's still RVS, but I don't see people still random voting to stir up activity.
01. Webadict - RV on Dakarian.
02. Leafsnail - RV on Diakron. Diakron has yet to respond.
03. SirBayer - RV on me when the game started.
04. Mr.Person - Not voting.
05. Diakron - RV on me for lurking for 3 hours. Has not posted since then.
06. Dakarian - Pressure on Webadict to try to read him?
07. Jokerman-EXE - RV on Eduren. Has not posted since then.
08. Nirur Torir - Voting for SirBayer. Bayer's only attempt at scum-hunting was to vote me with a joke RVS question when the game started. He behaved as though stressed when I pointed out that he was dodging a question, insisting that he's not scum. He is slow to respond, as though waiting for advice from somebody.
09. Eduren - Voting Mr. Person for sidelining. Mr. Person has responded that he would be right back with hard questions for somebody. He has not yet returned after 10 hours.
10. ToonyMan - Voting Webadict for meta reasons
11. tehstefan - RV on Leafsnail.
12. Vector - RV on Bayer.
13. CobaltKobold - RVS question at Vector. Vector has responded.
Pandarsenic: when does the day end?
Bayer, why aren't you even trying to scum-hunt?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 07, 2010, 09:27:33 am
Day ends 5 PM Pacific Time on Tuesday.
Post by: webadict on March 07, 2010, 12:28:18 pm
Lacking anything better to do with my time, I'll try to revive the activity by posting who everybody is voting for, my perceived reasons for why they are voting that person, and my own feelings of town/scum.Now, what's your analysis on the situation?
It's still RVS, but I don't see people still random voting to stir up activity.
01. Webadict - RV on Dakarian.
02. Leafsnail - RV on Diakron. Diakron has yet to respond.
03. SirBayer - RV on me when the game started.
04. Mr.Person - Not voting.
05. Diakron - RV on me for lurking for 3 hours. Has not posted since then.
06. Dakarian - Pressure on Webadict to try to read him?
07. Jokerman-EXE - RV on Eduren. Has not posted since then.
08. Nirur Torir - Voting for SirBayer. Bayer's only attempt at scum-hunting was to vote me with a joke RVS question when the game started. He behaved as though stressed when I pointed out that he was dodging a question, insisting that he's not scum. He is slow to respond, as though waiting for advice from somebody.
09. Eduren - Voting Mr. Person for sidelining. Mr. Person has responded that he would be right back with hard questions for somebody. He has not yet returned after 10 hours.
10. ToonyMan - Voting Webadict for meta reasons
11. tehstefan - RV on Leafsnail.
12. Vector - RV on Bayer.
13. CobaltKobold - RVS question at Vector. Vector has responded.
Pandarsenic: when does the day end?
Bayer, why aren't you even trying to scum-hunt?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 07, 2010, 12:40:34 pm
Post by: tehstefan on March 07, 2010, 03:25:44 pm
Leaf, why do you think of Nirur's thoughts on SirBayer? Scumtells, or not?
Post by: Leafsnail on March 07, 2010, 03:40:19 pm
I'd say they are scumtells, but that Nirur is significantly overstating them. I can't see panic there, and there's no real reason for scum to panic in the RVS stage anyway.
Now, I'd like to know - why ask me to express views on something when you yourself have said nothing, not even aknowledging the issue?
Post by: dakarian on March 07, 2010, 03:45:36 pm
What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
No. If I did that I'd be aiming to kill half the game by the end of day 1. Instead, I'd rather use my daykill to try to kill actual scum and work on READING people. Even unreadables spill the beans after a few days and there's usually people who look far worse beforehand.
But no, I know just wanting to policy lynch isn't a scumtell (it's a null tell). Now worrying that I'd SEE it as a scum tell... that's not so pretty.
Quote
But, it's nice to see you're freaking out, trying to find anything you can. I mean, it's not like you to be so demanding on things, nor is it like you to simply ignore everything I said to straight up attack me. Basically, you're dodging all of my attacks to attack me, which is incredibly scummy of you, scumbag.
Web are you pulling the same "OMG that post right after RVS wasn't a not a good reason!" Mistake many many scum tend to do? I thought you realized by now HOW I manage the RVS.
I would take your attacks seriously if you did as well. Saying I'm unknown after throwing a blah's list of tells doesn't amount to much but a softballed attack. You want real answers? I want an accusation I can speak about, and without "nothing may be right" BS to hedge on later.
[quote
I'm not the one who OMGUS'd here (Well, I OMGUS'd Mr.Person for the fun of it), [/quote]
I didn't OMGUS! (ok, I did..but)
No, I know you were being funny. I also know that comedy is easy to pull when you want to avoid breaking into a readable stance.
Quote
nor am I the one that is attacking their attacker without defending. I mean, it's like you don't really care about answering questions. You just want to see someone lynched. You're making no attempt to defend yourself, nor are you really attacking.
Good job explaining yourself.
Myself, I want a read on you. That's the purpose of D1. You holding yourself back pretty well this game and it's bugging me. It's almost like you're ignoring things just to focus on me. Thus I'm going to see if I can break you before the day ends. I know now that you are something and it's NOT town, but I need more to see what you are.
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So, instead of making vague argument about my scummitude, why not a real attack, scumbag? Because if you're going to royally contradict yourself, then why are you even bothering?
You're hiding behind a screen of silly jokes and theory jargon. You're TRYING to be hard to read and trying to banter with the crowd. You are after me, but meh, when have you NOT been after me? It's almost like a reverse safe bet: most folks avoid me since I'm a hard read and a harder lynch. You run right into me because ..I don't know, but when you aren't after someone else or hunting, you go right for me.
Result, you're hiding, and purposely. You're something big enough to affect your game. I want to know if that something needs to be lynched or not.
Post by: tehstefan on March 07, 2010, 03:52:01 pm
Unvote leafsnail
Now, as for your own query back at me, my opinion is much similar. I think its not really a serious scumtell at all, however, it probably is better than just randomly voting around. However, I don't agree with his stance.
Post by: Diakron on March 07, 2010, 04:09:43 pm
My Friend just got back from BCT and we were all over town yesterday just got back.
Dakarian brings up a good point(s) with his last post but i seriously need to sleep. Night folks (well its midday but still)
Post by: webadict on March 07, 2010, 04:55:40 pm
If they're unreadable, then you can't read them. Simple as that, really, but you're acting like some sort of fool. You're trying your best to turn a molehill into a mountain. Do you even realize what you're saying? You're twisting words to fit some weird shape that's grotesquely wrong.What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
No. If I did that I'd be aiming to kill half the game by the end of day 1. Instead, I'd rather use my daykill to try to kill actual scum and work on READING people. Even unreadables spill the beans after a few days and there's usually people who look far worse beforehand.
But no, I know just wanting to policy lynch isn't a scumtell (it's a null tell). Now worrying that I'd SEE it as a scum tell... that's not so pretty.... Are you calling me a bad scum player... Or... what? I'm not entirely sure what you're on about here. Who said RVS ended? Who said it even started? What is wrong in your head?QuoteBut, it's nice to see you're freaking out, trying to find anything you can. I mean, it's not like you to be so demanding on things, nor is it like you to simply ignore everything I said to straight up attack me. Basically, you're dodging all of my attacks to attack me, which is incredibly scummy of you, scumbag.
Web are you pulling the same "OMG that post right after RVS wasn't a not a good reason!" Mistake many many scum tend to do? I thought you realized by now HOW I manage the RVS.
So, seriously, what are you accusing me of? Accusing you of not random voting? Because, honestly, you didn't make anything coherent in that statement.
I would take your attacks seriously if you did as well. Saying I'm unknown after throwing a blah's list of tells doesn't amount to much but a softballed attack. You want real answers? I want an accusation I can speak about, and without "nothing may be right" BS to hedge on later.If I'm not attacking you seriously, then why are you reacting so seriously?
Are you pulling a Strawman Fallacy out here?QuoteI'm not the one who OMGUS'd here (Well, I OMGUS'd Mr.Person for the fun of it),
I didn't OMGUS! (ok, I did..but)
No, I know you were being funny. I also know that comedy is easy to pull when you want to avoid breaking into a readable stance.
Clearly, you don't know anything about anything, or you're choosing to believe as such. Personally, I believe the latter, since I'm not flinging accusations left and right, taking nothing and turning it into... complete absolute nothing.Quotenor am I the one that is attacking their attacker without defending. I mean, it's like you don't really care about answering questions. You just want to see someone lynched. You're making no attempt to defend yourself, nor are you really attacking.
Good job explaining yourself.
Myself, I want a read on you. That's the purpose of D1. You holding yourself back pretty well this game and it's bugging me. It's almost like you're ignoring things just to focus on me. Thus I'm going to see if I can break you before the day ends. I know now that you are something and it's NOT town, but I need more to see what you are.
Oh, and you're not really trying very hard if your goal is to break me. You've done so much better in the past.
I'm not doing anything. If I'm difficult to read, that's your fault. I can read myself very clearly, actually. But, seriously, why would I avoid you? When have I avoided you? I'm the one people avoid because they can't read me. I avoid nothing. Am I supposed to cower in your presence, sir? do others do so in my wake?QuoteSo, instead of making vague argument about my scummitude, why not a real attack, scumbag? Because if you're going to royally contradict yourself, then why are you even bothering?You're hiding behind a screen of silly jokes and theory jargon. You're TRYING to be hard to read and trying to banter with the crowd. You are after me, but meh, when have you NOT been after me? It's almost like a reverse safe bet: most folks avoid me since I'm a hard read and a harder lynch. You run right into me because ..I don't know, but when you aren't after someone else or hunting, you go right for me.
My God, you must be considerably conceited to make an argument like that.
Result, you're hiding, and purposely. You're something big enough to affect your game. I want to know if that something needs to be lynched or not.Oh wait. You KNOW I'm not Town, but you don't know if I'm good enough to be lynched? Yet, here you are with your vote on me. Flip-floppingest argument ever. Make up your mind and stick to it, even if it's dead-set on being ignorantly wrong.
In summary, vote yourself if you're trying to lynch scum.
Post by: Diakron on March 07, 2010, 10:05:38 pm
Post by: SirBayer on March 08, 2010, 01:04:36 pm
Bayer, why aren't you even trying to scum-hunt?
Yeesh, you don't really get the concept of "weekend," do you?
QuoteI have an awful hard time choosing scumteams, since I really never end up on themQuoteNo, not so much. Only scum are afraid to answer questions, and I'm not scum.Number of scumtells I count: 3.
1) Claiming to not be scum.
2) Overly defensive and not attacking.
3) Clearly stressed out while answering questions.
Well, it's nice to know that you understand scumhunting and that you do it, but get your tells straight.
Webadict: No, see, that doesn't work. It's not that I'm having a hard time understanding it, it's not even that it doesn't make sense. I figured out what it was.
That's like Schrodinger's Cat. Everyone is that cat but the observer, unless that observer is scum, except that that doesn't mean that every other potential observer is town either, so it's still like that, except you know who your teammates are, as opposed to the town. But, to the town, every person is scum and town at the same time until that person is dead, where their alignment is shown.
Showed you.
See, it's the run-on sentence that gets my goat. I don't know if it's as applicable to Webadict as it is to Panda (who I know gets hit with it by Vector), largely because I'm not sure his English is always as meticulous, but it does read like... well, not like what I seem to recall Webadict sounding like most games.
What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
This is the same deal. It sounds hesitant, non-direct - which is just the sort of way scum feels. I see that Dak mentions all of this in his arguments, looking back over, but I still think it's rapidly approaching the significant level. Unvote Nirur Torir, vote Webadict. It's good enough for me, frankly.
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 02:14:49 pm
There's a lot of concepts that you must not get. Such as that you can scumhunt without it being the weekend.Bayer, why aren't you even trying to scum-hunt?
Yeesh, you don't really get the concept of "weekend," do you?
Funny, I was going to say something similar to you. You have no idea what you're doing, it seems! Ironic or simply coincidental?QuoteI have an awful hard time choosing scumteams, since I really never end up on themQuoteNo, not so much. Only scum are afraid to answer questions, and I'm not scum.Number of scumtells I count: 3.
1) Claiming to not be scum.
2) Overly defensive and not attacking.
3) Clearly stressed out while answering questions.
Well, it's nice to know that you understand scumhunting and that you do it, but get your tells straight.
Webadict: No, see, that doesn't work. It's not that I'm having a hard time understanding it, it's not even that it doesn't make sense. I figured out what it was.So, you're saying that run-on sentences is Pandarsenic's meta, and therefore applies to everyone that plays... Right, I can see how that makes sense. You're also using plenty of real evidence to support this claim. I can see this clearly stacks up well, if blocks were made out of fallacies.That's like Schrodinger's Cat. Everyone is that cat but the observer, unless that observer is scum, except that that doesn't mean that every other potential observer is town either, so it's still like that, except you know who your teammates are, as opposed to the town. But, to the town, every person is scum and town at the same time until that person is dead, where their alignment is shown.
Showed you.
See, it's the run-on sentence that gets my goat. I don't know if it's as applicable to Webadict as it is to Panda (who I know gets hit with it by Vector), largely because I'm not sure his English is always as meticulous, but it does read like... well, not like what I seem to recall Webadict sounding like most games.
Really? Where in it does it sound hesitant? The part where I have no idea why dakarian thinks this is scummy, or the part where I'm telling him as such?What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
This is the same deal. It sounds hesitant, non-direct - which is just the sort of way scum feels. I see that Dak mentions all of this in his arguments, looking back over, but I still think it's rapidly approaching the significant level. Unvote Nirur Torir, vote Webadict. It's good enough for me, frankly.
You're voting me on only two minor pieces of evidence that are both very flawed, both in your reason for using them and your presenting of them. You're not even trying to scumhunt, and it is most definitely not the weekend anymore. Did you just take two posts and cram them together in hopes of making a true argument, or did this take you a good 6 hours to fake?
Clearly, dakarian can't top my argument, because he's been on for some time now and has yet to respond. He can fight all he wants, but his attacks are like banana cream pies on a tank. Mostly because he's not even trying! Just like you.
So, in conclusion, don't use metas that aren't mine to vote me, because they're, get this, not mine! Also, be sure to take a few classes on reading comprehension before you try to understand the author's meaning. In the meantime, try to not fail so much.
And i Come back to WA throwing up some Counter-Arguments Very defensive though looks like it was carefully written to be town-readAre you saying I'm trying to sound town, or that I'm trying to be read by town? Because I'm lost on this.
Post by: SirBayer on March 08, 2010, 02:24:21 pm
Way to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.
So Yeah. I feel justified.
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 02:34:48 pm
Haha. And that's what I was looking for, Webadict.Are you saying that people should be allowed to vote with terrible points? I clearly shot down all of your reasons and you incorrectly determine that this makes your points MORE valid?
Way to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.
So Yeah. I feel justified.
Basically, two wrongs make a right in this case. I'm not even sure you know what leaping is. To leap into the sky would for me to fly to your house and rip out your trachea. Now, to say I leap a little bit might be more accurate, but I'm not going to let some nobody think they can tarnish my name by using the worst evidence available.
I'm not sure how you can even begin to assume that that is proper scumhunting. You didn't find scum the first time, you haven't found scum this time, and I highly doubt you'll find scum in the future! My goodness!
In fact, just for that, I want you to go through every one of my posts and analyze them. For EVERYONE to see. Do it, because clearly I'd have had to've left more scumtells in there, and you know so much about scumhunting.
Post by: SirBayer on March 08, 2010, 02:49:03 pm
So, I'll be back with that, and what I think about it.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 08, 2010, 03:08:31 pm
Quote from: Webadict
Are you saying that people should be allowed to vote with terrible points? I clearly shot down all of your reasons and you incorrectly determine that this makes your points MORE valid?"HEY! You don't have the right to vote me without good reasoning!"
Quote from: Webadict
In fact, just for that, I want you to go through every one of my posts and analyze them. For EVERYONE to see. Do it, because clearly I'd have had to've left more scumtells in there, and you know so much about scumhunting."I want you to go look though my posts for evidence. By seeing how little you have, you'll unvote me."
You did jump when it looked like Bayer was joining a bandwagon against you. According to General Mountainterror's Guide to Mafia, page 266, people getting overly wordy at being bandwagoned need to be bandwagoned further.
Post by: SirBayer on March 08, 2010, 03:11:50 pm
Spoiler: All of Webadict's Best And Also The Rest (click to show/hide)
Conclusion: Webby is either failing scum today or a jester.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 08, 2010, 03:13:09 pm
And i Come back to WA throwing up some Counter-Arguments Very defensive though looks like it was carefully written to be town-read
Did you even read Webadict's post? "Carefully written" would probably be the last adjective I'd use to describe his posts.
@Webadict: What should we be doing?
@Nirur: If you think SirBayer is scum, why haven't you pushed the issue?
Warning - while you were typing a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Nirur, you seemed so certain that SirBayer was scum. What makes you think SirBayer is no longer scum, or at least less likely scum than Webadict?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 08, 2010, 03:26:03 pm
Nirur, you seemed so certain that SirBayer was scum. What makes you think SirBayer is no longer scum, or at least less likely scum than Webadict?I believe that my attacks are stronger if I always type as though the person being attacked -is- scum, and I just need more evidence in order to get them lynched, even if I'm not sure that they're scum. My targets won't know if they're really in the "I have you now, scum" category or the "You need questioning" category.
Having re-read Bayer's posts, I decided that I do not yet have enough evidence to launch a crippling psychological attack on him at this time, while Webadict is in need of more pressure.
Vector, I'd like to see your commentary on Webadict's behavior.
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 04:07:13 pm
You want me to find every single one of your posts, analyze it, and present it back to you? I don't have time right now - but I will do that, because I can.You don't have time and yet you'll do so anyway? How considerate.
So, I'll be back with that, and what I think about it.
Unvote SirBayer. Vote Webadict for defensiveness.Wait... so the two people that were voting each other now suddenly find that bandwagoning me is the optimum idea?Quote from: WebadictAre you saying that people should be allowed to vote with terrible points? I clearly shot down all of your reasons and you incorrectly determine that this makes your points MORE valid?"HEY! You don't have the right to vote me without good reasoning!"Quote from: WebadictIn fact, just for that, I want you to go through every one of my posts and analyze them. For EVERYONE to see. Do it, because clearly I'd have had to've left more scumtells in there, and you know so much about scumhunting."I want you to go look though my posts for evidence. By seeing how little you have, you'll unvote me."
You did jump when it looked like Bayer was joining a bandwagon against you. According to General Mountainterror's Guide to Mafia, page 266, people getting overly wordy at being bandwagoned need to be bandwagoned further.
Anyhow, back to the ludicrous evidence against me...
Jumping? Really? Why does it always take like five people to bandwagon me? Normal people get three. Me? I get five. I'm not even being voted for good reasons. If you're thinking that's jumping then you're insane.
Your evidence is... moronic! Yes, you shouldn't vote for someone without good evidence. He left RVS when he bandwagoned. It's fairly obvious. How does that make any amount of sense to vote someone with?!?
The second compelling evidence you've brought forth is equally terrible. Mostly because it's all true! I want him to find and list every occurrence where I'm scummy, so I can shoot him down that many times. I've already done so, but he's just waiting to get hit again and again and again.
I'm not sure where you got stupid and thought defensiveness is a surefire reason to vote anyone, but this is ridiculous. No wonder dakarian wants everyone to work on their Day game. It's just SO BAD.
No need to hide my posts.Explain, oh great one, what a perfect random vote would look like. It's RVS. You see what's there and you see what's not. Maybe you don't get it, but you're not any good, so I wouldn't expect you to. I never wasted anything, since I got a response. By your logic, Mr.Person also wasted his RV, as did dakarian and Diakron. You're such a nimrod.WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONSMR.PERSON YOU ARE CLEARLY SCUM!
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
Let us refer to the evidence. His name has a period in it. It is... a USERNAME! *gasps*
Furthermore, between the period and the following word there... LACKS A SAPCE! *more shocked gasps*
And if that weren't enough, your avatar is stupid. Go cry over business, pal. We all know Leno sucks, but who the heck cares that much? *startled gasps, a woman faints*
I therefore conclude that you are scum.
That or town.
Wasting perfectly good RVS? Come now, you're more experienced than that.
... Because it's RVS? Are you being serious? I wanted dakarian to talk more. There's so much fail in this...This is the lamest thing ever. Why would you attack someone like that? It's still RVS, this has absolutely no foundation.Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!Dakarian, if i had 3 apples and 2 of them are green what is the least number of cats on my lap?
Depends on three factors:
If the apples are in bite sized pieces:
C= X/4 cats
X= the surface area of your lap in square inches
C= the number of cats (the answer)
If the apples are whole
0
If the apples are covered in shrimp
7/0
Meanwhile
CobaltKobold why did Diakron give me such a useless question?
Again, I'm not sure you've completely grasped any concept in Mafia. Especially the RVS.Unvote DakarianLooking for lurkers already, scumbag?
Nirur Torir care to rejoin us? i didn't get anything from you last time :D
Indirect side attacks already, scumbag?
Oh wait, I thought it was a run-on sentence! I thought that was a scumtell! Now it has some use for analysis?unvoteI saw you do what? Defend yourself? Deflect? Use meta? Be scummy? OMGUS? Yeah, I see lots of things, scumbag.Why aren't you asking Diakron, dakarian!
Because RVS isn't for useless OMGUS. It's for reading people properly.
Webadict, you SAW me do this last time, saw the result. Why are you trying it again?
That's like Schrodinger's Cat. Everyone is that cat but the observer, unless that observer is scum, except that that doesn't mean that every other potential observer is town either, so it's still like that, except you know who your teammates are, as opposed to the town. But, to the town, every person is scum and town at the same time until that person is dead, where their alignment is shown.
Showed you.See? This is why I wish I had an Assassin Bot...ToonyMan, if you were on the scumteam, who else would you pick to be on it with you, amongst the current players?
Me, Myself, and Irene.
Vote Webadict for faux attitude.
See, Webadict, this is where my complaints come in.
It's not just that Panda does it, it's why Panda does it. It's because he's nervous. Anyone just keeps talking when they're nervous, and you're doing the same here.
And your argument is... what? I don't even know. It's not clear what you're attacking, nor what point you're making. In fact, there isn't a point there. Just saying that... what, nobody is town and nobody is scum, just the same? You don't address his issue, you don't - this isn't even a response!
And then you threaten to kill somebody.
Because, really, you're not doing any analysis. You're twisting words. I threatened to kill someone? No. I don't have a way to kill someone. It was saying I'd be happy to kill them provided there was a way, but not that I was going to.
Just like the rest of your analysis :PI used Schrodinger's gun on you.You won't know until I post.
You're maybe dead.
Included for thoroughness' sake. Nothing special.
Right, so my other attacks on him are equally not attacks. That's cool.You 'see' a lot of things but don't act properly on them.What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
But, it's nice to see you're freaking out, trying to find anything you can. I mean, it's not like you to be so demanding on things, nor is it like you to simply ignore everything I said to straight up attack me. Basically, you're dodging all of my attacks to attack me, which is incredibly scummy of you, scumbag.
I'm not the one who OMGUS'd here (Well, I OMGUS'd Mr.Person for the fun of it), nor am I the one that is attacking their attacker without defending. I mean, it's like you don't really care about answering questions. You just want to see someone lynched. You're making no attempt to defend yourself, nor are you really attacking.
So, instead of making vague argument about my scummitude, why not a real attack, scumbag? Because if you're going to royally contradict yourself, then why are you even bothering?I'd want no scumbuddies. I'd rather be in a cult of some sort.I was thinking a lot about Schrodinger's Cat ... today? Yesterday? I don't remember when. Just that I was and wanted to talk about it.You 'see' a lot of things but don't act properly on them.Why didn't you ask him "Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance?"
Casual pokes about scum then a mess that amounts to "you may be town or scum". Nice way to weaken your own stance. Am I town, scum or the 'maybe town maybe scum' mess you thought was more important to mention than any actual scummy behavior?
Now how about a REAL attack without the bet hedging?
Meanwhile, cute to see that you're still interested in killing off folks just because they annoy you.
Which, btw, I am now asking Webadict. Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance? By that, I mean, why are you saying the possibilities? What purpose does it serve?
See, he's not responding to your argument because there wasn't one. You can't call him out on attacks that didn't happen.
I'm supposed to answer that question? You're setting unrealistic goals here. Your questions was "Why can't I understand you when I normally do?" Here's my answer: How should I know? If you understand me when I'm scum or when I'm town, then what's stopping you now? Therefore, I'm pretty sure it's your fault.Unvote
Happy now?
dakarian.
Aso, SirBayer, which questions were you asking me? The "Not making sense" thing? I dunno. Maybe you're taking some drugs that stop you from comprehending. Maybe you got dropped on your head. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's merely temporary.
Dismissing a question.
It's not the first time for you.Don't know what this means.Lacking anything better to do with my time, I'll try to revive the activity by posting who everybody is voting for, my perceived reasons for why they are voting that person, and my own feelings of town/scum.Now, what's your analysis on the situation?
It's still RVS, but I don't see people still random voting to stir up activity.
01. Webadict - RV on Dakarian.
02. Leafsnail - RV on Diakron. Diakron has yet to respond.
03. SirBayer - RV on me when the game started.
04. Mr.Person - Not voting.
05. Diakron - RV on me for lurking for 3 hours. Has not posted since then.
06. Dakarian - Pressure on Webadict to try to read him?
07. Jokerman-EXE - RV on Eduren. Has not posted since then.
08. Nirur Torir - Voting for SirBayer. Bayer's only attempt at scum-hunting was to vote me with a joke RVS question when the game started. He behaved as though stressed when I pointed out that he was dodging a question, insisting that he's not scum. He is slow to respond, as though waiting for advice from somebody.
09. Eduren - Voting Mr. Person for sidelining. Mr. Person has responded that he would be right back with hard questions for somebody. He has not yet returned after 10 hours.
10. ToonyMan - Voting Webadict for meta reasons
11. tehstefan - RV on Leafsnail.
12. Vector - RV on Bayer.
13. CobaltKobold - RVS question at Vector. Vector has responded.
Pandarsenic: when does the day end?
Bayer, why aren't you even trying to scum-hunt?
It's saying that he made an analysis but he didn't point out particular scummy people.
1) Same argument applies to dakarian.If they're unreadable, then you can't read them. Simple as that, really, but you're acting like some sort of fool. You're trying your best to turn a molehill into a mountain. Do you even realize what you're saying? You're twisting words to fit some weird shape that's grotesquely wrong.What's wrong with that? I don't see anything wrong with that, especially if I had a free Daykill. Wouldn't you want to get rid of someone you couldn't read? I don't see how that's scummy.
No. If I did that I'd be aiming to kill half the game by the end of day 1. Instead, I'd rather use my daykill to try to kill actual scum and work on READING people. Even unreadables spill the beans after a few days and there's usually people who look far worse beforehand.
As far as I can tell, Webadict has supported Dak's conclusions in Beginner games. So I'm not quite sure what you're talking about here.But no, I know just wanting to policy lynch isn't a scumtell (it's a null tell). Now worrying that I'd SEE it as a scum tell... that's not so pretty.... Are you calling me a bad scum player... Or... what? I'm not entirely sure what you're on about here. Who said RVS ended? Who said it even started? What is wrong in your head?QuoteBut, it's nice to see you're freaking out, trying to find anything you can. I mean, it's not like you to be so demanding on things, nor is it like you to simply ignore everything I said to straight up attack me. Basically, you're dodging all of my attacks to attack me, which is incredibly scummy of you, scumbag.
Web are you pulling the same "OMG that post right after RVS wasn't a not a good reason!" Mistake many many scum tend to do? I thought you realized by now HOW I manage the RVS.
So, seriously, what are you accusing me of? Accusing you of not random voting? Because, honestly, you didn't make anything coherent in that statement.
Relates back to attacks that didn't happen.I would take your attacks seriously if you did as well. Saying I'm unknown after throwing a blah's list of tells doesn't amount to much but a softballed attack. You want real answers? I want an accusation I can speak about, and without "nothing may be right" BS to hedge on later.If I'm not attacking you seriously, then why are you reacting so seriously?
Because you're not attacking at all, so you're fairly obviously scum?Are you pulling a Strawman Fallacy out here?QuoteI'm not the one who OMGUS'd here (Well, I OMGUS'd Mr.Person for the fun of it),
I didn't OMGUS! (ok, I did..but)
No, I know you were being funny. I also know that comedy is easy to pull when you want to avoid breaking into a readable stance.
As far as I can tell, this is a weak dismissal of this argument.Clearly, you don't know anything about anything, or you're choosing to believe as such. Personally, I believe the latter, since I'm not flinging accusations left and right, taking nothing and turning it into... complete absolute nothing.Quotenor am I the one that is attacking their attacker without defending. I mean, it's like you don't really care about answering questions. You just want to see someone lynched. You're making no attempt to defend yourself, nor are you really attacking.
Good job explaining yourself.
Myself, I want a read on you. That's the purpose of D1. You holding yourself back pretty well this game and it's bugging me. It's almost like you're ignoring things just to focus on me. Thus I'm going to see if I can break you before the day ends. I know now that you are something and it's NOT town, but I need more to see what you are.
Oh, and you're not really trying very hard if your goal is to break me. You've done so much better in the past.
So you're... taunting him? Dismissing the possibility of breaking? I don't like that, frankly.I'm not doing anything. If I'm difficult to read, that's your fault. I can read myself very clearly, actually. But, seriously, why would I avoid you? When have I avoided you? I'm the one people avoid because they can't read me. I avoid nothing. Am I supposed to cower in your presence, sir? do others do so in my wake?QuoteSo, instead of making vague argument about my scummitude, why not a real attack, scumbag? Because if you're going to royally contradict yourself, then why are you even bothering?You're hiding behind a screen of silly jokes and theory jargon. You're TRYING to be hard to read and trying to banter with the crowd. You are after me, but meh, when have you NOT been after me? It's almost like a reverse safe bet: most folks avoid me since I'm a hard read and a harder lynch. You run right into me because ..I don't know, but when you aren't after someone else or hunting, you go right for me.
My God, you must be considerably conceited to make an argument like that.
More argument dismissal. One of Webby's strong points this game, scum-wise.Result, you're hiding, and purposely. You're something big enough to affect your game. I want to know if that something needs to be lynched or not.Oh wait. You KNOW I'm not Town, but you don't know if I'm good enough to be lynched? Yet, here you are with your vote on me. Flip-floppingest argument ever. Make up your mind and stick to it, even if it's dead-set on being ignorantly wrong.
In summary, vote yourself if you're trying to lynch scum.
No response, he's got a point.
Bolded are my comments.
2) What is up with you and your dismissing excuse? That's so terrible! He pulled a Strawman Fallacy out. It's a FALLACY. You might need a dictionary for that one, but it's pointless to argue with someone using it.
3) Get your facts straight.
I said you're not allowed to vote for terrible points. That's obvious. You left RVS when you voted me, because I had plenty of people voting for me. You therefore bandwagoned me without reason. You even admit to it. You also admit to not scumhunting in the same post.Haha. And that's what I was looking for, Webadict.Are you saying that people should be allowed to vote with terrible points? I clearly shot down all of your reasons and you incorrectly determine that this makes your points MORE valid?
Way to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.
So Yeah. I feel justified.
Basically, two wrongs make a right in this case. I'm not even sure you know what leaping is. To leap into the sky would for me to fly to your house and rip out your trachea. Now, to say I leap a little bit might be more accurate, but I'm not going to let some nobody think they can tarnish my name by using the worst evidence available.
I'm not sure how you can even begin to assume that that is proper scumhunting. You didn't find scum the first time, you haven't found scum this time, and I highly doubt you'll find scum in the future! My goodness!
In fact, just for that, I want you to go through every one of my posts and analyze them. For EVERYONE to see. Do it, because clearly I'd have had to've left more scumtells in there, and you know so much about scumhunting.
So let's see what happened here! First, you tell me that I'm not allowed to vote with terrible points. So... I'm not allowed to Random Vote. And I'm not allowed to scumhunt when I'm out of options. And I'm really just not allowed to vote. Thanks.
You posted paragraphs in response to two quotes and a few lines. You're nervous and you're willing to attack anything.
If I miss scum, then I try again. I don't think I'm missing, you seem awfully frustrated with me.
And here it is.
No, if you miss scum today, you die. That's my compromise. If you lynch me, I will ask that everyone kill dakarian and SirBayer. Why? Because you're acting like an idiot and dakrain is acting like scum. You're pulling any argument you can out of nowhere. I mean, it's like you know I'm a Cop and really, really want to get rid of me. I don't know how you know, but I'm getting the feeling that you do.
Anyhow, I've got to go. If you all have nothing better to do, feel free to leave some more attacks on me. I can't possibly be bandwagoned enough.
Conclusion: Webby is either failing scum today or a jester.Go suck a lemon.
I do so enjoy smarter people. Let's have her.Nirur, you seemed so certain that SirBayer was scum. What makes you think SirBayer is no longer scum, or at least less likely scum than Webadict?I believe that my attacks are stronger if I always type as though the person being attacked -is- scum, and I just need more evidence in order to get them lynched, even if I'm not sure that they're scum. My targets won't know if they're really in the "I have you now, scum" category or the "You need questioning" category.
Having re-read Bayer's posts, I decided that I do not yet have enough evidence to launch a crippling psychological attack on him at this time, while Webadict is in need of more pressure.
Vector, I'd like to see your commentary on Webadict's behavior.
Post by: Vector on March 08, 2010, 04:18:21 pm
Vector, I'd like to see your commentary on Webadict's behavior.
Will do a run later. Just checking in right now.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 08, 2010, 05:28:11 pm
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Post by: ToonyMan on March 08, 2010, 05:42:56 pm
Scanned Webadict's post, looks like Pirate Mafia 2 to me.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 08, 2010, 05:50:09 pm
Please provide answers to as many of these as possible.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 08, 2010, 06:13:39 pm
unVote VectorI can see only one reason for this: To pressure me into pulling my vote of Webadict. You're not saying I'm scum because of my bandwagon. You're not using it as a step to question me with it.
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Webadict seems like he's hiding something to me: my vote remains, for now.
Why do you want me to unvote Webadict?
To Webadict: Why aren't you hunting scum? All I see is defensiveness and insults.
Quote
I'm not sure where you got stupid and thought defensiveness is a surefire reason to vote anyone, but this is ridiculous. No wonder dakarian wants everyone to work on their Day game. It's just SO BAD.You're just treating Bayer and myself like stupid newbies for attacking you, as though you consider Bayer and myself to be townies. If two people were going at it, then suddenly bandwagoned me with little reasoning, I would not just let that fly. So, you either already have a clear idea of who the scum is, or you just don't care about hunting for scum.
So, who do you think the scum is?
Post by: Diakron on March 08, 2010, 06:41:36 pm
Webadict what's the matter? did you get caught as scum and are panicking?
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 07:43:14 pm
No, I'm treating you guys like the massive bandwagoners you are. I now am at L-1. I'm also a Cop Roleblocker, in case anyone feels like throwing that last vote on me for no reason.unVote VectorI can see only one reason for this: To pressure me into pulling my vote of Webadict. You're not saying I'm scum because of my bandwagon. You're not using it as a step to question me with it.
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Webadict seems like he's hiding something to me: my vote remains, for now.
Why do you want me to unvote Webadict?
To Webadict: Why aren't you hunting scum? All I see is defensiveness and insults.QuoteI'm not sure where you got stupid and thought defensiveness is a surefire reason to vote anyone, but this is ridiculous. No wonder dakarian wants everyone to work on their Day game. It's just SO BAD.You're just treating Bayer and myself like stupid newbies for attacking you, as though you consider Bayer and myself to be townies. If two people were going at it, then suddenly bandwagoned me with little reasoning, I would not just let that fly. So, you either already have a clear idea of who the scum is, or you just don't care about hunting for scum.
So, who do you think the scum is?
So, clearly, no one is going to listen to my logic, and I'm going to get hammered for no reason. It wouldn't even matter if you all realised I'm calm, because then you guys would freak out as well. So, I'm going to wait for dakarian, who I still believe is scum, to respond to me. And once you guys freak-out and then subsequently lynch me, you can then lynch dakarian and SirBayer, preferably in that order.
Because, logic doesn't seem to be working here. I'm not even freaking out like usual, and I guess that makes me even more suspicious! *facepalm* I'm sure Pandarsenic is loling.
Oh, and my role is Petherbridge (I'm three Petherbridges) My other "known" roles are Jacob de Castro Sarmento and Howstrake Camp Halt.
Post by: SirBayer on March 08, 2010, 07:48:34 pm
Webby: Spoilers, please? :I
Spoiler: Webadict (click to show/hide)
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 08:16:23 pm
So, I'm going to wait for dakarian, because I clearly can't get through to you guys. If I can't then I will make sure that you guys believe dakarian is scum before I die. Well, and SirBayer, but I want dakarian gone.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 08, 2010, 08:29:38 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 08, 2010, 08:35:23 pm
Leafsnail [None]:
tehstefan [None]:
Jokerman-EXE [None]:
webadict [5]: Dakarian, ToonyMan, SirBayer, Nirur Torir, Diakron
Eduren [1]: Jokerman-EXE
ToonyMan[None]:
Dakarian [1]: webadict
Nirur Torir [1]: CobalKobold
SirBayer [1]: Vector
Mr.Person [1]: Eduren
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [1]: Leafsnail
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
Everything here is accurate?
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 08:42:24 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 08, 2010, 10:05:51 pm
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 10:12:55 pm
Not that I saw?Mr.Person?
Post by: dakarian on March 08, 2010, 10:22:17 pm
In any case, while I was away Web FINALLY cracked. It took half the town to bandwagon on him but jeesh, at least he did.
I still have a feeling you are something, but now at least I have a good enough read to mark you as not scum. Yes, the attacks were weak as just out of RVS ones typically are. They are, instead, meant as pressure, especially since I have not finished with you during the whole time.
As for what you are.. I don't know, but lynches are for scum and scum only. Simply put. Unvote Webadict
MEANWHILE
Diakron hello there Mr Sidelining, buddying, bandwagoning mess of a scum? Seriously? The only thing you have to say is that I, at early day 1, made a good point and that Webadict, legendarily KNOWN for getting emotional when pressured, has lost his cool?
Post by: webadict on March 08, 2010, 10:38:13 pm
Apologies for the silence. It was a mix of working as a host and enjoying SC2 and finding out that I'm sick as a dog.Shut up and die. You can't explain your way out of terrible reasoning as random voting. You weren't random voting after the first part.
In any case, while I was away Web FINALLY cracked. It took half the town to bandwagon on him but jeesh, at least he did.
I still have a feeling you are something, but now at least I have a good enough read to mark you as not scum. Yes, the attacks were weak as just out of RVS ones typically are. They are, instead, meant as pressure, especially since I have not finished with you during the whole time.
As for what you are.. I don't know, but lynches are for scum and scum only. Simply put. Unvote Webadict
MEANWHILE
Diakron hello there Mr Sidelining, buddying, bandwagoning mess of a scum? Seriously? The only thing you have to say is that I, at early day 1, made a good point and that Webadict, legendarily KNOWN for getting emotional when pressured, has lost his cool?
You're also still not going to admit I'm Town, and will instead make vague attacks as to my Towniness or kill me tonight. Not that I can really die, since I can choose to Roleblock someone, which either blocks them or blocks someone that tries to kill me at the cost of my vote the next Day.
Yeah, no, I've already decided that you're scum.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 09, 2010, 12:38:30 am
He unvoted before anyone else got on you. He hasn't revoted.Not that I saw?Mr.Person?
Post by: dakarian on March 09, 2010, 12:41:27 am
No, I'm not going to admit you are town because I don't believe you are. I also believe you aren't scum and will say that outright. You don't have to worry about a death by me because I can't kill and even if I could I wouldn't aim at you even without knowing what you can do.
Now if you excuse me, I have actual scum to worry about.
Post by: Eduren on March 09, 2010, 12:56:29 am
Web- not scum
Bayer- townish(aggressive)
Nirur- Bandwagoning, can't read
Leafy- Lurking
Cobalt- Activelurking
Dakarian- Can't read. Acting normal.
Diakron- Bandwagoning, wait for his response to Dak before read
Vector- Absent?
Mr. Person- Like before: sidelining. Cant read
Toony- Lurking
Unvote Mr. Person
For now, I want Leafsnail to get in here and find scum.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 12:59:29 am
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 01:28:26 am
I pushed you to find out what you are. That was the sum total of what I was after. I finally found it. I'm done with you for now.Yeah, well, you can die now.
No, I'm not going to admit you are town because I don't believe you are. I also believe you aren't scum and will say that outright. You don't have to worry about a death by me because I can't kill and even if I could I wouldn't aim at you even without knowing what you can do.
Now if you excuse me, I have actual scum to worry about.
You clearly don't want to admit someone is town (Not even a likely or probably town, which is certainly acceptable), but you're totally against saying I'm ANYTHING. I mean, look at the amount of flip-flopping you've littered throughout that post. And you're just going to STEP BACK from me? Suck a lemon!
There's no WAY. If I'm not scum, what are you expecting me to be? Third Party?!? Yeah, why the heck not! Like saying that I'm not town but not scum makes the entire thing go away. Go shoot yourself! My God. This is blatantly ridiculous and offensively off-handish. Why don't you step on a puppy, fry it up, and serve it to me as steak?
It's like you completely ignored everything you did for the purpose of trying to escape this episode of terrible hunting. REALLY? REALLY????? When it comes to having your life threatened, suddenly the whole thing isn't worth it? Durr... but wait! I thought I wasn't Town, folks! I mean, dakarian refuses to admit it (This would be his second time saying as such), so then WHY OH WHY would you not lynch me if you know I'm not town?
It's just a melting pot of outrageous sayings! You are the random.org of excuse-making!
WHY BACK DOWN NOW?!?!? Go suck a lemon.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 02:50:33 am
01. Webadict - Some sort of third party, OR scum. Watch this man.
Spoiler: Tells (click to show/hide)
02. Leafsnail - Town, I think, but mildly lurky.
Now, I'd like to know - why ask me to express views on something when you yourself have said nothing, not even aknowledging the issue?
This is a good point, but Leafsnail's been on the mildly lurky side. Just noting it...
03. SirBayer - Town.
Well, if you insist, but I have an awful hard time choosing scumteams, since I really never end up on them, and I've never really experienced any success on them.
[...]
No, not so much. Only scum are afraid to answer questions, and I'm not scum.
1. You never had so much trouble answering that question before. Additional: that previous weird trippy post you made makes you seem nervous, and I feel like you're trying to precondition us into thinking you're town.
2. Once again, telling rather than showing.
04. Mr.Person - Probably town.
WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
This is weak. You're explaining your lack of reasoning, which is scummy and looks like you're trying to cover your ass.
I'd want no scumbuddies. I'd rather be in a cult of some sort.
[...]
Why didn't you ask him "Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance?"
Which, btw, I am now asking Webadict. Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance? By that, I mean, why are you saying the possibilities? What purpose does it serve?
Ignoring/improperly answering question = scummy.
I don't do the RVS well. I also lack suspicions, which means I have to go ask some questions. I don't have any right now, nor do I have the time to make some right now, so I'll be back a teensy bit later with some hard questions.
Where are they? I think this qualifies as "a teensy bit later."
05. Diakron - SCUM.
Spoiler: Tells (click to show/hide)
06. Dakarian - Town. I don't think he'd take the risk of looking scummy like this as scum, especially if he has the choice to look 100% town (which he does). WIFOM is one thing, but this is a chance to bag Webadict that he's giving up on.
07. Jokerman-EXE - Noobscum.
So it is, Eduren. So it is.
OMGUS and completely null RVS-vote. Scum.
I think that's called a random vote. I'm still new though. :PSo it is, Eduren. So it is.Whats this?
Maybe I can actually live long enough to learn something, this game.
Playing noob. You may be a newbie, but I get the distinct feeling that you're sidelining and intentionally lurking (you were one of the more active players in Boot Camp, and you've hardly posted here save random scummy crapola).
^ This is the sum total of his posts over the last three days. He's scum.
08. Nirur Torir - Town.
Just one person? Probably Vector, for the learning experience and the skill.
I'm trying to improve my natural lurker tendencies, and I think only playing one game at a time will help. If I can get over my strange fear of attacking players I perceive as being noticably more skilled then myself. Unvote.
Eduran. How do you intend to find scum if you don't apply psychological pressure?
Scum-Nirur Torir has absolutely no reason to go for getting over his fear of attacking experienced players right now; he could use it as an excuse to pick off weaklings. Additionally, he's scumhunting rather harder than he usually does as scum, and actually notes that he's a lurker (i.e. he has flaws that might be construed as scummy). Looks like he either got a lot better at scum recently or he's town.
09. Eduren - Town.
Jokerman. This is your second game, no?
This is a weak and stupid question that will get you nowhere. Try harder to push people.
Hrmm. What exactly is the favorite scumteam question supposed to reveal?
Does Toony want to bring some real accusations?
You're being passive, but on the other hand I think you'd push a lot harder as scum (and be a bit more lurky, less helpful, and so on). I also don't see anyone asking that question as scum--you'd just attack and be done with it. Sure, WIFOM, whatever. It's my guess, and my guess is all I can give.
Eduran: the intent of the question isn't the problem. The delivery is the problem. Compare:'Twas implied my good man.QuoteDoes Toony want to bring some real accusations?
To:QuoteToonyMan, you keep talking, yet have said nothing. Stop active-lurking and scumhunt, you slime covered lump of mold. Either explain why you would prefer to ally with Pandarsenic and Vector, and then start scumhunting, or your filth will be purged from this game in the cleansing fires of a lynch.
This is scummish, but on the other hand I've seen you pull this sort of thing as town over and over and over again (BM1 being the first example of such). It's poor play, but it sounds like town-you (just noting a quirk, not an insult).
10. ToonyMan - Scum. Keep an eye on him.
Spoiler: Tells (click to show/hide)
11. tehstefan - Town
Spoiler: Tells (click to show/hide)
12. Vector - Town.
13. CobaltKobold - a bit lurky. Probably town.
Hi there, tehstefan. I hear you were involved in some kind of Gangsta Party?I don't believe you. Die, scum! To the electric chair with you!QuoteLeafsnail why do you know more than I?I am, apparently, better at taking inferences from rules.
Looks like an attempt to keep on Leafsnail--a joke statement that's "free" and let's her keep lurking/active-lurking. This is somewhat par for the course, however.
My known roles are Casualty Prediction and Jirō Minami. I suggest a mass known-role claim early on in an effort to figure out what's going on. For now, though...
Since this sort of move is especially dangerous later in the game, and I estimate my probability of being lynched as very low, and especially because I have no time (and I believe I've found the scumteam):
Panda: Asteroid Jokerman-EXE
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 02:51:30 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 03:03:07 am
If you mean prod you should've told me earlier, he was on AIM. -.-
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 09, 2010, 03:12:24 am
Oy, Pandarsenic. How many mafia? How many scum? What alignments are allowed? Are any right out?And tell me if you're not going to answer them. :|
Please provide answers to as many of these as possible.
I'd guess four mafiosos if it's two factions, simply because that's three mislynches.
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 03:46:05 am
dakarian is scum. I will PERSONALLY lay down my life for lynching tomorrow if I'm wrong. Lynch him today, and you will lynch a scum.
You got me right. If dakarian is NOT scum, I will allow myself to be lynched tomorrow. Okay? Because I know I'm right and I will kill him one way or another. If this is the only way, I'll do it. I don't mess around. You got that? I DON'T MESS AROUND. I'm going to cut his face off. I'm going to kill him. He's scum! I know it. I KNOW IT.
There's only one way to prove it though, and that's killing dakarian right now, right here. I don't care how he dies, but I want him dead.
We'll see how you fair, Vector. We'll see.
And Extension, since the Day ends tomorrow, likely while I'm away or something. And clearly because no one will listen to me or unvote me.
Post by: Eduren on March 09, 2010, 04:21:12 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 06:51:41 am
Oy, Pandarsenic. How many mafia? How many scum? What alignments are allowed? Are any right out?And tell me if you're not going to answer them. :|
Please provide answers to as many of these as possible.
I'd guess four mafiosos if it's two factions, simply because that's three mislynches.
Sorry, missed that.
3 mafia members, no comment, no comment, no comment.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 06:56:23 am
Leafsnail [1]: Eduren
tehstefan [None]:
Jokerman-EXE [None]:
webadict [4]: ToonyMan, SirBayer, Nirur Torir, Diakron
Eduren [1]: Jokerman-EXE
ToonyMan[None]:
Dakarian [1]: webadict
Nirur Torir [1]: CobalKobold
SirBayer [1]: Vector
Mr.Person [None]:
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [2]: Leafsnail, Dakarian
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
1 Extension request noted. Deadline moved to 11 PM Pacific Time Tuesday (6 hours).
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 08:53:56 am
Vector: Why no vote? You obviously have ideas who the scum are.Because he has no idea who scum are. Or perhaps he does, but doesn't really care to vote for them.
Anyhow, I'm going to be lurked to death.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 08:59:18 am
Unvote Webadict, based on Dakairon's and Vector's assessment. My bandwagon was merely a pressure vote on you until they responded.
Vote Dakarian. Your certainty is a compelling argument.
Extension for Webadict.
CK, I still want an answer.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 10:48:55 am
Vector: Why no vote? You obviously have ideas who the scum are.
I... made a mistake :I You'll understand later.
Anyway, Jokerman-EXE. Get in here and die, scumbucket.
Vector: Your list ain't got a nickle's worth of useful information. And here I thought it'd be at least somewhat useful. You've got all the wrong suspects right now, and it's going to kill you later, unless I do this:
dakarian is scum. I will PERSONALLY lay down my life for lynching tomorrow if I'm wrong. Lynch him today, and you will lynch a scum.
You got me right. If dakarian is NOT scum, I will allow myself to be lynched tomorrow. Okay? Because I know I'm right and I will kill him one way or another. If this is the only way, I'll do it. I don't mess around. You got that? I DON'T MESS AROUND. I'm going to cut his face off. I'm going to kill him. He's scum! I know it. I KNOW IT.
There's only one way to prove it though, and that's killing dakarian right now, right here. I don't care how he dies, but I want him dead.
We'll see how you fair, Vector. We'll see.
And Extension, since the Day ends tomorrow, likely while I'm away or something. And clearly because no one will listen to me or unvote me.
What--unhappy I didn't go "Oh hay, Webadict is Town ;D" like I usually do? Sorry. If Dakarian's being scummy, I can't see him doing it.
Also, what the hell is this shit:
You've got all the wrong suspects right now, and it's going to kill you later, unless I do this:
Oooooookay. Big bloody deal. Why do you think I'd care?
Vector: Why no vote? You obviously have ideas who the scum are.Because he has no idea who scum are. Or perhaps he does, but doesn't really care to vote for them.
Incorrect on multiple fronts. I was pretty much too tired last night to remember to vote--I crawled into bed thinking "Jeesh, I should have voted. Bad."
The other part where you're wrong is the part where, just because you don't like my opinions, I'M SUDDENLY A DUDE AGAIN? Seriously, doodabuddy. You're acting... funkalicious.
Vector, I don't see how a mass fake-role claim will help. The most likely result I see is the scum seeing a pattern, and noticing which roles aren't claimed, allowing them a higher chance of fake claiming.
No, you're right. Sorry about that; I forgot they could share information ;_;
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 10:55:41 am
Asteroid him?
No, I didn't make a mistake. You made a mistake. So let's rethink what I might have meant, and then let's do that thing.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 11:01:58 am
Quote from: tehstefan
Now, as for your own query back at me, my opinion is much similar. I think its not really a serious scumtell at all, however, it probably is better than just randomly voting around. However, I don't agree with his stance.Fair enough - reasons, though?
Quote from: webadict
Angry stuff.To be honest, this looks like town webadict to me. Scum webadict is more mild, although there is the possibility of self-meta manipulation. I don't really get run on sentences as a scumtell; they crop up in my writing all the time, and it's more a pandar-tell anyway.
Quote from: SirBayer
This is the same deal. It sounds hesitant, non-direct - which is just the sort of way scum feels. I see that Dak mentions all of this in his arguments, looking back over, but I still think it's rapidly approaching the significant level. Unvote Nirur Torir, vote Webadict. It's good enough for me, frankly.Funnily enough, I think this quote applies a lot more to itself than it does to the thing SB was quoting. He doesn't make a direct accusation, only saying that it feels like scum, and that it's "good enough" (for what? A lynch? Further examination? A bandwagon?).
Quote from: SirBayer
Way to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.This is also suspicious, SirBayer. You admit to having bad posts, but are using that as a way of strengthening your case due to an "overreaction". Firstly, I'm not sure overreaction can ever be seen as a scumtell on webadict, and secondly, you aren't trying to back up this point, probably because webadict would demolish it if you did. So, SirBayer - what is your actual case on webadict? I'd like you to make it without reference to overreaction to bad points.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
You did jump when it looked like Bayer was joining a bandwagon against you. According to General Mountainterror's Guide to Mafia, page 266, people getting overly wordy at being bandwagoned need to be bandwagoned further.Nirur Torir, if you vote someone while SAYING it is just a bandwagonning vote, you aren't adding any pressure. You're just trying to look active and appearing to do something. And it looked suspiciously like you were distancing yourself from Bayer earlier.
Quote from: SirBayer
Conclusion: Webby is either failing scum today or a jester.Your case isn't nearly strong enough to justify such a conclusion and you know it.
Quote from: Diakron
Webadict what's the matter? did you get caught as scum and are panicking?Lame accusation is lame. Diakron, any real reasons?
Quote from: Eduren
For now, I want Leafsnail to get in here and find scum.Well, if you want me to find scum, why are you voting me :/?
In summary - SirBayer and Nirur Torir look bad, and I see a connection. Diakron's being extremely lame and possibly scum.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 11:04:03 am
Quote from: EdurenFor now, I want Leafsnail to get in here and find scum.Well, if you want me to find scum, why are you voting me :/?
Scared of pressure-votes, hm?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 11:19:35 am
First off, Pandarsenic wants FoSs to remain uncolored.Quote from: Nirur TorirYou did jump when it looked like Bayer was joining a bandwagon against you. According to General Mountainterror's Guide to Mafia, page 266, people getting overly wordy at being bandwagoned need to be bandwagoned further.Nirur Torir, if you vote someone while SAYING it is just a bandwagonning vote, you aren't adding any pressure. You're just trying to look active and appearing to do something. And it looked suspiciously like you were distancing yourself from Bayer earlier.
I disagree with the bolded statement. Webadict was clearly annoyed by being voted with bad reasons. My vote also set him closer to a hammer, causing further frustration.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 11:20:26 am
No. Just find his logic (and reason for voting me) confusing.Quote from: EdurenFor now, I want Leafsnail to get in here and find scum.Well, if you want me to find scum, why are you voting me :/?
Scared of pressure-votes, hm?
And yeah, sorry. I'll try and keep them uncoloured.
Post by: SirBayer on March 09, 2010, 01:10:14 pm
Quote from: SirBayerWay to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.This is also suspicious, SirBayer. You admit to having bad posts, but are using that as a way of strengthening your case due to an "overreaction". Firstly, I'm not sure overreaction can ever be seen as a scumtell on webadict, and secondly, you aren't trying to back up this point, probably because webadict would demolish it if you did. So, SirBayer - what is your actual case on webadict? I'd like you to make it without reference to overreaction to bad points.
Oh, I get it, you didn't actually read anything I did after that, where I meticulously went over every single post and pushed him for scumminess.
Okay, well, come back to me when you have and we'll talk.
Unvote Webadict. Vote Nirur Torir. Let's have a look at your posts.
Spoiler: Nirur Torir (click to show/hide)
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 01:14:55 pm
Seriously, why are you even here, SirBayer?Quote from: SirBayerWay to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.This is also suspicious, SirBayer. You admit to having bad posts, but are using that as a way of strengthening your case due to an "overreaction". Firstly, I'm not sure overreaction can ever be seen as a scumtell on webadict, and secondly, you aren't trying to back up this point, probably because webadict would demolish it if you did. So, SirBayer - what is your actual case on webadict? I'd like you to make it without reference to overreaction to bad points.
Oh, I get it, you didn't actually read anything I did after that, where I meticulously went over every single post and pushed him for scumminess.
Okay, well, come back to me when you have and we'll talk.
Unvote Webadict. Vote Nirur Torir. Let's have a look at your posts.Spoiler: Nirur Torir (click to show/hide)
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2010, 01:30:49 pm
Things of note: Webadict's not on the town, but he's not a mafia member (AKA what Dakarian said). Town Webadict is smart enough to know that "Lynch him then me" is ALWAYS bad. Either a Jester or a Lyncher, I'd say. His claim sounds like the kind of thing you would give a Jester to make sure they don't get night killed, too.
I'm going to say Dakarian's town. No way would he jump off of Webadict (who's a really fucking easy lynch right now) if he was scum. Well, I guess I'd have to know Webadict's alignment. It could, after all, be a giant staged fight, but I seriously doubt that.
@Vector: What made you think there's 3 mafia members?
Why did you list a bunch of stuff I did as scummy, then say I was town?
I don't see how you think ToonyMan is scum. Too silly? For ToonyMan, that's literally the equivalent of a Too Townie Fallacy.
I also love how you attack Tehstefan for sidelining, then literally say "People, press this man harder." which is, you know, sidelining itself. Also, Tehstefan wasn't sidelining. He asked a legitimate question about one player's thoughts on another so as to generate conversation.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 01:43:10 pm
I know that my own chances of reading Webadict are/were slim. All I felt I could do to help against him was add pressure, and try to analyze the more experienced players' readings of him.
Quote
I can't see how any of this can be justified.If you must know, I took Dakarian's advice to heart after reading the Boot Camp Mafia thread, and stopped caring about if my actions can be read as scum-tells.
I parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 01:49:55 pm
SirBayer, I literally made a reply basically saying exactly what you've just said about Nirur Torir.You're a straight-up moron.
Things of note: Webadict's not on the town, but he's not a mafia member (AKA what Dakarian said). Town Webadict is smart enough to know that "Lynch him then me" is ALWAYS bad. Either a Jester or a Lyncher, I'd say. His claim sounds like the kind of thing you would give a Jester to make sure they don't get night killed, too.
I'm going to say Dakarian's town. No way would he jump off of Webadict (who's a really fucking easy lynch right now) if he was scum. Well, I guess I'd have to know Webadict's alignment. It could, after all, be a giant staged fight, but I seriously doubt that.
@Vector: What made you think there's 3 mafia members?
Why did you list a bunch of stuff I did as scummy, then say I was town?
I don't see how you think ToonyMan is scum. Too silly? For ToonyMan, that's literally the equivalent of a Too Townie Fallacy.
I also love how you attack Tehstefan for sidelining, then literally say "People, press this man harder." which is, you know, sidelining itself. Also, Tehstefan wasn't sidelining. He asked a legitimate question about one player's thoughts on another so as to generate conversation.
So, I'm not Town but I'm not scum but clearly this could all be a staged fight but look at that it's probably not yeah definitely not maybe sorta kinda i don't know okay maybe i do but who the heck cares why am i still alive
dakarian is hardcore lurking to avoid a lynch. He backed off to look town, but he's leaving so many holes in his reasoning you could use it for a screen door. Now you're using some sort of catch-all argument to protect dakarian. It's like everything dakarian does is Giant Mountains Of Gold (GMOGs), and everything I do is Unholy Pits Of Destitution (UPODs). What is this, some sort of sick infatuation?
Vector? How about the part where Pandarsenic SAID THERE WERE THREE MAFIA MEMBERS?!? Are Townies now incapable of scumtells? I didn't realize! That means nobody is town, right? WOW, game over guys! We're all mafia! End the game now! GG LOL ROFLCOPTER.
Suck a lemon.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 01:55:59 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2010, 02:02:28 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 02:04:07 pm
So Webadict, why exactly are you freaking out so much and, more importantly, ANSWERING OTHER PEOPLE'S QUESTIONS?Because you're doing nothing productive.
Oh wait, was that one for me or not?
Post by: SirBayer on March 09, 2010, 02:05:55 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2010, 02:07:08 pm
He's a Jester.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 02:41:00 pm
You go suck a lime Webadict.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 02:54:45 pm
@Vector: What made you think there's 3 mafia members?
Why did you list a bunch of stuff I did as scummy, then say I was town?
I don't see how you think ToonyMan is scum. Too silly? For ToonyMan, that's literally the equivalent of a Too Townie Fallacy.
I also love how you attack Tehstefan for sidelining, then literally say "People, press this man harder." which is, you know, sidelining itself. Also, Tehstefan wasn't sidelining. He asked a legitimate question about one player's thoughts on another so as to generate conversation.
1. Pandarsenic told us there was 3 scum members.
2. Townies can be scummy. I'm putting up the full results of my wide scan for others to use later, in case my judgment was incorrect and they can get something else out of what I noticed.
3. I can read Toony pretty effectively. I like the part where you're guarding him, just like you did Pandarsenic in BYOR 2.
4. When Pandarsenic gets back from class, I will be dead. So will Jokerman. As such, yes, I'm giving you guys my advice for what y'all should do after my passing.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2010, 03:08:07 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 03:10:10 pm
I have. Your points did not improve.Quote from: SirBayerWay to jump into the sky over something "minor". Hell, those points weren't good, but you leaping like a Mexican Jumping Bean was.This is also suspicious, SirBayer. You admit to having bad posts, but are using that as a way of strengthening your case due to an "overreaction". Firstly, I'm not sure overreaction can ever be seen as a scumtell on webadict, and secondly, you aren't trying to back up this point, probably because webadict would demolish it if you did. So, SirBayer - what is your actual case on webadict? I'd like you to make it without reference to overreaction to bad points.
Oh, I get it, you didn't actually read anything I did after that, where I meticulously went over every single post and pushed him for scumminess.
Okay, well, come back to me when you have and we'll talk.
Quote from: Mr.Person
Town Webadict is smart enough to know that "Lynch him then me" is ALWAYS bad.He's done it to me twice in Paranormal. I thus disagree with this statement :P.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
I parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?
Quote from: Nirur Torir
I must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 03:14:06 pm
OBJECTION! Vector just lied to me. She claims she thought there were 3 mafia members because Pandarsenic said so, which is true. However, Vector posted her list of 3 mafia members BEFORE Pandarsenic said there were 3 mafia members! She's lying about knowing why from Pandarsenic, so I can only assume she knew because SHE HERSELF IS A MAFIA MEMBER!
Don't be a fool (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=49428.msg1056931#msg1056931).
Post by: Eduren on March 09, 2010, 03:19:58 pm
Unvote Leafy, it was for pressure.
Vote Diakron get in here scumbucket. You jumped on the webadict wagon with no justification, you have done no scumhunting and your posts stink of passivity.
Post by: SirBayer on March 09, 2010, 03:28:53 pm
SirBayer, I literally made a reply basically saying exactly what you've just said about Nirur Torir.
So I ninja'd you?
Leafy: Oh, okay. So you willfully choose to ignore THE PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE I HAVE BROUGHT UP, AND NONETHELESS ACCUSE ME OF HAVING NO CASE.
Stop it, scum-bucket.
I admit that I tend flop around during RVS. What of it?
I know that my own chances of reading Webadict are/were slim. All I felt I could do to help against him was add pressure, and try to analyze the more experienced players' readings of him.
Flip-flopping ever isn't good. It's scummy. You don't drop a vote for the sake of voting, you push, you push! You chase that person down unless you have reason to go for someone else, as in they're being horribly suspicious. You break people.
I'm a new player, and yet I just went head-on with Webby. No need to be afraid.
Quote from: Nirur
QuoteI can't see how any of this can be justified.If you must know, I took Dakarian's advice to heart after reading the Boot Camp Mafia thread, and stopped caring about if my actions can be read as scum-tells.
Admirable, but scum-tells are scum-tells and scum make more scum-tells than town.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
So, in the end, I still think you're scum.
Post by: Diakron on March 09, 2010, 04:15:02 pm
I had a reason for voting him but it escapes me atm i'm so busy playing FF-13
As for mellowing out, i am on a mood stabilizer to prevent me from having a heart attack when i get mad my BP sky rockets to 180/92.. very not good when combine with a 130 bpm heartrate.
I find it funny that everyone is focused on JUST TWO PEOPLE when it is obvious that there has to be a scum that is helping this along...
break over back 2 FF
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 04:18:03 pm
As for mellowing out, i am on a mood stabilizer to prevent me from having a heart attack when i get mad my BP sky rockets to 180/92.. very not good when combine with a 130 bpm heartrate.
Fair enough. Hope you come back to play with us at some point, however...
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 04:20:43 pm
Quote
Leafy: Oh, okay. So you willfully choose to ignore THE PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE I HAVE BROUGHT UP, AND NONETHELESS ACCUSE ME OF HAVING NO CASE.Your "evidence" is merely going through each post and saying that he's RVing, overdefensive or whatever. It seems to contain little concrete evidence, and also seems to be merely an afterthought to you voting him.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 04:28:32 pm
I wasn't accusing him of bussing, please re-read for quotation marks.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?Quote from: Nirur TorirI must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
Yes, the possibility of somebody creating a Mafia game without townies does exist from my perspective. Why doesn't it exist from yours?
Flip-flopping ever isn't good. It's scummy. You don't drop a vote for the sake of voting, you push, you push! You chase that person down unless you have reason to go for someone else, as in they're being horribly suspicious. You break people.Then we have different objectives during RVS. Mine is to get the conversation started; votes facilitate that.
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I'm a new player, and yet I just went head-on with Webby. No need to be afraid.Yea, and I just rammed him head-first, giving myself a concussion to bruise him slightly. It was indeed surprisingly easy.
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Admirable, but scum-tells are scum-tells and scum make more scum-tells than town.Who's scummier: Somebody who joins a bandwagon to lynch somebody they feel is scum, or somebody who is afraid to join a bandwagon to lynch a suspected scum, afraid of being lynched themselves?
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So, in the end, I still think you're scum.Suit yourself, just don't blind yourself to the rest of the game with your suspicions of me.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 04:37:54 pm
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Yes, the possibility of somebody creating a Mafia game without townies does exist from my perspective. Why doesn't it exist from yours?Because I am town. On the other hand, from your perspective inside a scumteam/ as a Serial Killer, I suppose the scenario you outlined is possible.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 04:42:35 pm
Nope, such a scenario is not possible for this particular game from my perspective. Are you done twisting my words yet?QuoteYes, the possibility of somebody creating a Mafia game without townies does exist from my perspective. Why doesn't it exist from yours?Because I am town. On the other hand, from your perspective inside a scumteam/ as a Serial Killer, I suppose the scenario you outlined is possible.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 04:47:54 pm
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 04:48:56 pm
Post by: tehstefan on March 09, 2010, 04:50:19 pm
In any case, I am going to ask for an extension while i read over more posts.
To Leafsnail, my main reasons for thinking those are out of porportion is that they are rather weak tells to begin with, yet he seems convinced he's got them. His language is too strong. Besides,there are stronger targets in my opinion, so targeting him right now, seems rather silly.
Such as Diakron.The others have brought up good points, however, from my own experience of playing with you, you seem to be very mellow. Sure, you gave a good reason, but its still there.
Second, you seem to make very little content posts. While I tend to not post a lot, I also try and make every post actually matter. Seems like your trying to active lurk.
The buddying is definitely not helping you either, expound on why his points are good, don't just say they are.
Also, the bandwagoning is totally not helping. You're dropping tells all over the place, and not doing much to defend yourself.
So, What do you think of this whole Webadict-Dakarian thing, and why?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 04:59:44 pm
So you just brought it up randomly and for no reason? And with no context?
Vector? How about the part where Pandarsenic SAID THERE WERE THREE MAFIA MEMBERS?!? Are Townies now incapable of scumtells? I didn't realize! That means nobody is town, right? WOW, game over guys! We're all mafia! End the game now! GG LOL ROFLCOPTER.There's the context. It was idle chatter in response.
Post by: Eduren on March 09, 2010, 05:08:44 pm
sorry FFXII break :DIf you are too busy to play this game, please ask for a replace.
I had a reason for voting him but it escapes me atm i'm so busy playing FF-13
As for mellowing out, i am on a mood stabilizer to prevent me from having a heart attack when i get mad my BP sky rockets to 180/92.. very not good when combine with a 130 bpm heartrate.
I find it funny that everyone is focused on JUST TWO PEOPLE when it is obvious that there has to be a scum that is helping this along...
break over back 2 FF
In the meantime, why is Web scum and who else could be.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 09, 2010, 05:24:44 pm
Anyway, unvote Eduren. Sorry that even stayed so long. Just an RV to get started, but now that I've caught up I have some things I'd like answered.
Mr.Person, you were extremely quick to jump on Vector for her knowledge of the amount of scum. She already addressed why that makes you an idiot, but I'd like to know why you thought such a weak reason was enough to do a limp-wristed slap of "GOLLY GEE SHE'S TOTALLY SCUM SHE KNEW THE AMOUNT OF SCUM THAT WERE IN THE GAME." It seems to me that you're way too eager to shove weak reasons onto Vector, especially after she made a few glances at your scumminess in her earlier analysis post:
WEBADICT, I AM VOTING YOU FOR A BULLSHIT REASON FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS
1. GETTING THE CONVERSATION GOING.
2. SEEING HOW YOU REACT TO GETTING VOTED
This is weak. You're explaining your lack of reasoning, which is scummy and looks like you're trying to cover your ass.I'd want no scumbuddies. I'd rather be in a cult of some sort.
[...]
Why didn't you ask him "Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance?"
Which, btw, I am now asking Webadict. Why are you taking such a multi-sided stance? By that, I mean, why are you saying the possibilities? What purpose does it serve?
Ignoring/improperly answering question = scummy.I don't do the RVS well. I also lack suspicions, which means I have to go ask some questions. I don't have any right now, nor do I have the time to make some right now, so I'll be back a teensy bit later with some hard questions.
Where are they? I think this qualifies as "a teensy bit later."
I'd also like to see those questions that you never got around to asking. Further:
I'm going to say Dakarian's town. No way would he jump off of Webadict (who's a really fucking easy lynch right now) if he was scum. Well, I guess I'd have to know Webadict's alignment. It could, after all, be a giant staged fight, but I seriously doubt that.
It also seems strange to me that you not only think Webadict's an easy lynch but don't vote him, especially in light of the fact that you think that Dakarian's such a paragon of town. Wouldn't that make his opponent, Webadict, scum in your eyes? Maybe I'm reading too far into that, but if I learned one thing from Boot Camp it's that I need to press my accusations hard and in as great numbers as I can. Care to address?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 05:26:24 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 09, 2010, 05:28:15 pm
GAH NO ASTEROID REPEAT NO ASTEROID
...is that good?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 05:30:16 pm
GAH NO ASTEROID REPEAT NO ASTEROID
...is that good?
Maybe. Depends on if you're town or scum. In any case, I don't feel like killing you over personal problems, so I'm probably going to off... Mr. Person.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 05:56:50 pm
:/
Wouldn't it be better used as an extra lynch, Vector?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 05:59:25 pm
Weird cancellable Death Note (http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1853493#1853493) daykill?
:/
Wouldn't it be better used as an extra lynch, Vector?
Kills me and someone else; I was almost certain Jokerman was scum, so I tried to use it on him (also, there's no point in using it on some other day than D1, so it's now or never). Then Pandarsenic didn't figure it out, so I don't know what's going on anymore.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 09, 2010, 06:03:09 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 09, 2010, 06:20:20 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 06:21:25 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 06:25:34 pm
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 06:30:03 pm
You shouldn't suicidebomb unless you're about to get lynched, really. This game (http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11512) shows that perfectly. It damages town win chances.
Oh, is that why this role exists?
Anyway, I may be dead. If I'm not dead, then I'm not dead. I can't do anything about it now, but I'll stick in the game for the nonce (given that I just discovered I'm doing rather better in all my classes than I thought I was, and thus probably could stand relaxing more and freaking out less).
Well, anyway... ToonyMan, Mr.Person. Y'all are looking scumbuckettish.
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
WHY. Tell me WHY and I might do it, but I need to know PRECISELY what makes him scum--and not just "HURR HE LOOKS LIKE IT." What makes him scum beyond the shadow of a doubt?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 06:31:15 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 06:33:16 pm
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.A) Please stop buddying me.
B) I believe it's CK, SirBayer, and Leafsnail.
CK is voting me because bandwagoning is a terrible crime.
Bayer is voting me because he thinks I'm scum.
Leafsnail is voting me to try to coerce things out of me that he will then claim are scum-slips.
Did I miss anything?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 06:34:57 pm
Bayer is voting me because he thinks I'm scum.
[...]
Did I miss anything?
Yes. The part where you're panicking and delivering subtle OMGUS.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 09, 2010, 06:46:14 pm
Bayer is voting me because he thinks I'm scum.
[...]
Did I miss anything?
Yes. The part where you're panicking and delivering subtle OMGUS.
Or not-so-subtle, apparently.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 06:49:57 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 06:55:40 pm
Durr, let me go get my idiot chart somewhere...You shouldn't suicidebomb unless you're about to get lynched, really. This game (http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11512) shows that perfectly. It damages town win chances.
Oh, is that why this role exists?
Anyway, I may be dead. If I'm not dead, then I'm not dead. I can't do anything about it now, but I'll stick in the game for the nonce (given that I just discovered I'm doing rather better in all my classes than I thought I was, and thus probably could stand relaxing more and freaking out less).
Well, anyway... ToonyMan, Mr.Person. Y'all are looking scumbuckettish.Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
WHY. Tell me WHY and I might do it, but I need to know PRECISELY what makes him scum--and not just "HURR HE LOOKS LIKE IT." What makes him scum beyond the shadow of a doubt?
Unlike you, I'm not an idiot and would prefer to lynch scum. So, if I have to defend you to get my target lynched, I will do so.Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.A) Please stop buddying me.
B) I believe it's CK, SirBayer, and Leafsnail.
CK is voting me because bandwagoning is a terrible crime.
Bayer is voting me because he thinks I'm scum.
Leafsnail is voting me to try to coerce things out of me that he will then claim are scum-slips.
Did I miss anything?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 09, 2010, 07:28:23 pm
It wasn't intended to be subtle.
Then you obviously aren't actually trying to find scum and instead are just saving your own ass.
Mr.Person, you were extremely quick to jump on Vector for her knowledge of the amount of scum. She already addressed why that makes you an idiot, but I'd like to know why you thought such a weak reason was enough to do a limp-wristed slap of "GOLLY GEE SHE'S TOTALLY SCUM SHE KNEW THE AMOUNT OF SCUM THAT WERE IN THE GAME." It seems to me that you're way too eager to shove weak reasons onto Vector, especially after she made a few glances at your scumminess in her earlier analysis post:Unvote Vector. Didn't even notice she was voting me.
And yes, it would of been major if it wasn't public knowledge. How else would she know if she wasn't scum herself?
Where are they? I think this qualifies as "a teensy bit later."
Either you're both blind or illiterate, but either way, I've BEEN throwing questions out. Not a giant block of them or anything, but there have been questions.
I'm going to say Dakarian's town. No way would he jump off of Webadict (who's a really fucking easy lynch right now) if he was scum. Well, I guess I'd have to know Webadict's alignment. It could, after all, be a giant staged fight, but I seriously doubt that.
It also seems strange to me that you not only think Webadict's an easy lynch but don't vote him, especially in light of the fact that you think that Dakarian's such a paragon of town. Wouldn't that make his opponent, Webadict, scum in your eyes? Maybe I'm reading too far into that, but if I learned one thing from Boot Camp it's that I need to press my accusations hard and in as great numbers as I can. Care to address?
And you've just clearly shown that not only are you not reading my posts (I don't think Web is mafia) and seem to think that if two people argue, one of them MUST be scum, but you also just sidelined to try and get me to vote Webadict. Good job!
QuoteLeafy: Oh, okay. So you willfully choose to ignore THE PLETHORA OF EVIDENCE I HAVE BROUGHT UP, AND NONETHELESS ACCUSE ME OF HAVING NO CASE.Your "evidence" is merely going through each post and saying that he's RVing, overdefensive or whatever. It seems to contain little concrete evidence, and also seems to be merely an afterthought to you voting him.
What are you looking for, exactly? PR information?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 07:37:01 pm
Well, anyway... ToonyMan, Mr.Person. Y'all are looking scumbuckettish.
Why?
Post by: dakarian on March 09, 2010, 07:54:55 pm
That might explain something. Meh and double meh. unvote diakron
Ok, let's KISS it then. Nirur Torir, when this happened:
unVote VectorI can see only one reason for this: To pressure me into pulling my vote of Webadict. You're not saying I'm scum because of my bandwagon. You're not using it as a step to question me with it.
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Webadict seems like he's hiding something to me: my vote remains, for now.
Why do you want me to unvote Webadict?
Did you really try to discredit someone for finding an actual scumtell? Yes, bandwagoning IS a scumtell and needs to be called out. It's silly to mark it as just "wanting me to pull my vote" unless you are honestly saying that both Web and Cobalt are a scumteam.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 08:05:23 pm
Of all the things to come out of hiding to point out, that's all you say? I'm disappointed.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 09, 2010, 08:24:44 pm
Sure, it could have been major, but there's no way that scum would let something that blatantly obvious slip so casually, and you still jumped on it faster than fleas on a hobo. Scrambling to cover yourself?
Sidelining? I think not. I'm content to watch both WebAdict and Dak for scumtells. What I was doing was pointing out that you were saying that WA was a good lynch target, yet you voted for Vector. And then you unvoted as soon as someone drew attention to it. What's going on with that, scum?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 08:26:17 pm
Well, anyway... ToonyMan, Mr.Person. Y'all are looking scumbuckettish.Why?
Look at the GINORMOUS WOT.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 08:46:53 pm
Leafsnail [None]:
tehstefan [None]:
Jokerman-EXE [None]:
webadict [2]: ToonyMan, Diakron
Eduren [None]:
ToonyMan[None]:
Dakarian [2]: webadict, Nirur Torir
Nirur Torir [4]: CobalKobold, SirBayer, Leafsnail, Dakarian
SirBayer [1]: Vector
Mr.Person [1]: Jokerman-EXE
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [2]: Eduren, tehstefan
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
1 Extension request noted. One more and I'll move it to... uh, whenever I can get on a computer after my final tomorrow. Barring that, deadline in 5 hours and 13 minutes.
May change the "None" to "Z" for 0 so it doesn't freak out but it's easier to read at next votecount.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 08:48:06 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 08:48:26 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 08:51:35 pm
No time to post. Just realized I forgot to request Extension.
Extension
Unvote Leafy, it was for pressure.
Vote Diakron get in here scumbucket. You jumped on the webadict wagon with no justification, you have done no scumhunting and your posts stink of passivity.
Vector, I don't see how a mass fake-role claim will help. The most likely result I see is the scum seeing a pattern, and noticing which roles aren't claimed, allowing them a higher chance of fake claiming.
Unvote Webadict, based on Dakairon's and Vector's assessment. My bandwagon was merely a pressure vote on you until they responded.
Vote Dakarian. Your certainty is a compelling argument.
Extension for Webadict.
CK, I still want an answer.
And Webadict's, which you already noted.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 08:54:51 pm
Well, that just proved my point hardcore.
You can move my deadlines, if you know what I men. And I think you know what I men.
Deadline is now 11PM Pacific Wednesday.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 08:59:46 pm
Well, anyway... ToonyMan, Mr.Person. Y'all are looking scumbuckettish.Why?
Look at the GINORMOUS WOT.
Link please.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 09:03:37 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 09:06:47 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 09:28:14 pm
*blink* Diakron is on a mood stabilizer IRL?EASY LYNCH ALERT! EASY LYNCH ALERT!
That might explain something. Meh and double meh. unvote diakron
Ok, let's KISS it then. Nirur Torir, when this happened:unVote VectorI can see only one reason for this: To pressure me into pulling my vote of Webadict. You're not saying I'm scum because of my bandwagon. You're not using it as a step to question me with it.
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Webadict seems like he's hiding something to me: my vote remains, for now.
Why do you want me to unvote Webadict?
Did you really try to discredit someone for finding an actual scumtell? Yes, bandwagoning IS a scumtell and needs to be called out. It's silly to mark it as just "wanting me to pull my vote" unless you are honestly saying that both Web and Cobalt are a scumteam.
I'm sorry, did you actually have no real reason to bandwagon Nirur Torir other than "Everyone's doing it!"? Because you didn't FIND anything. What exactly are you lynching Nirur Torir for and why are you hiding?!?
It's like... I'm playing the world's easiest game of hide-and-seek, because everyone's BLIND EXCEPT FOR ME! You guys, it's SOOOO OBVIOUS IT HURTS!
I will refrain from posting in huge letters if everyone starts listening to me. Otherwise, you will see a good 20-yard-long post. dakarian hasn't found any evidence so far. He's merely jumped on people that have jumped on him. And he doesn't even have a good REASON to! He just tries to downplay it later. He's still admitting that I'm not Town but that I'm also not scum and therefore I should be left alone!
I mean, look at the tagteams it takes to discredit me! Mr.Person + dakarian = WEBADICT IS A JESTER AND THEREFORE DON'T ISTEN TO ANY LOGICAL THING HE SAYS => Anyone who listens to me is scum (Or should be lynched.)
I mean, seriously, once Nirur Torir stopped voting for me, and became a bandwagon target (Seriously? Nirur Torir?), look who was there to jump on that! Why, what do you know! dakarian! He's gone a bit (Understatement of the century?) into lurking since this game (He has no arguments for me because he's so wrong, or he's busy posting it up in QT.)
How can you all possibly believe dakarian is Town? I mean... really? He's not. And you're all falling for Meph-Vision AGAIN! I mean, wow! It takes PHYSICAL evidence for any of you to get a lynch correct. Every time. You wanna know why we almost won Paranormal 13? Because I SHOT the scum. I POINTED THEM OUT. I SHOT THEM. I KILLED THEM. AND WE LOSE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE WEAK BEINGS THAT CAN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WHAT SHOULD A LOGICAL PLAN. IT'S LIKE YOU WERE ALL MEANT TO FAIL!
If you don't lynch dakarian, shoot me tonight. Because we will have lost by then, and clearly anything I say is obviously going to be ignored. Despite its clear conclusion.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 09:39:09 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 09:41:16 pm
Vector, you botched your fake-claim again. Explain exactly why you felt that Jokerman, a newbie who you could easily break, needed to be suicide-bombed for lurking. Then explain why Pandarsenic didn't notice what you wanted when you activated your "ability." Finally, explain why you didn't start yelling when Pandarsenic failed to notice what you wanted.Especially what Asteroids have to do with anything.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 09:48:27 pm
Vector, you botched your fake-claim again. Explain exactly why you felt that Jokerman, a newbie who you could easily break, needed to be suicide-bombed for lurking. Then explain why Pandarsenic didn't notice what you wanted when you activated your "ability." Finally, explain why you didn't start yelling when Pandarsenic failed to notice what you wanted.
... Unvote SirBayer. Nirur Torir.
Okay, you're scum. How do I know this? BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET ME TO GO NUTS AND KILL SOMEONE, YOU MORON. Now LET'S THINK ABOUT IT, hey?
You're assuming that I'm stupid enough to FAKECLAIM A SUICIDE-BOMBING DAYKILLER. That's right--I taught you how to play this game, and I'd do something THAT PUBLIC, that can easily be checked, as a fakeclaim? THIS EARLY in the game?
Oh, and yeah, Jokerman was a bad choice. I was really tired at the time, and didn't think I could just yell at him until he snapped. Now I've remembered how to be pissy, though, so it's all good.
Also, learn to read:
Asteroid him?
No, I didn't make a mistake. You made a mistake. So let's rethink what I might have meant, and then let's do that thing.
Why he didn't notice? Because apparently I'm supposed to PM him the action, not post in-thread.
Good god.
@Webadict:
I'm the Numa thing. It's an asteroid. Thus I have asteroid-ish abilities.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 09, 2010, 09:50:47 pm
GAH NO ASTEROID REPEAT NO ASTEROID
Why did you say this?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 10:02:41 pm
Seems like a town-Vector response to me. Tehstefan, I haven't noticed you in a while. What's your analysis of Vector?
Post by: Eduren on March 09, 2010, 10:08:31 pm
Hehe, exploding Vectors are fun.Going 60mph in reverse.
Seems like a town-Vector response to me. Tehstefan, I haven't noticed you in a while. What's your analysis of Vector?
Post by: tehstefan on March 09, 2010, 10:33:54 pm
In any case, I think, from what I can tell, Vector's being pretty consistent. She's been bugging the mod about the asteroid the whole time, and then tried to stop it, so I don't think its much of a fake claim.
Now, for the doing it at all I find it highly suspect. Vector normally plays a much stronger game than that, and I'm thinking she's not doing this for no reason. Either she's been playing some seriously bad town game, or she's not quite who she claims she is.
Post by: tehstefan on March 09, 2010, 10:36:22 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 09, 2010, 10:38:33 pm
Tehstefan: Sorry for missing that post.
Anyway, here is Leafsnail's stated reason for attacking me:
Leafsnail, you have been on since then. Do you have something to add to your attack, since that was caused by you misunderstanding me? Your next attack was merely you trying to twist my words.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 11:04:43 pm
Now, for the doing it at all I find it highly suspect. Vector normally plays a much stronger game than that, and I'm thinking she's not doing this for no reason. Either she's been playing some seriously bad town game, or she's not quite who she claims she is.
Vector is... extremely tired. She's in too many games and has three problem sets due, with a paper and 4 (YES COUNT 'EM 4) midterms coming up, two of which she is terribly behind on and the other of which has an entirely insane professor.
He seriously says things like "It is the obligation of youth to ruin your health." He's a total nutcase.
Additional: I don't know about Nirur Torir, but why on earth are we paying no attention whatsoever to ToonyMan? Bleh... generally it's a bad idea to use the suicide bomb, but I want to find scum and nuke 'em.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 11:14:05 pm
Leafsnail [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
webadict [2]: ToonyMan, Diakron
Eduren [Z]:
ToonyMan[Z]:
Dakarian [2]: webadict, Nirur Torir
Nirur Torir [5]: CobalKobold, SirBayer, Leafsnail, Dakarian, Vector
SirBayer [Z]:
Mr.Person [1]: Jokerman-EXE
CobaltKobold [None]:
Diakron [2]: Eduren, tehstefan
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
Deadline Wednesday at 11 PM Pacific.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 11:21:23 pm
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 11:22:13 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 11:24:07 pm
4 =/= 6 =/= 5I agree.
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 11:27:41 pm
Or does math just fail?
Anyhow, dakarian is scum. He will always be scum.
Post by: Vector on March 09, 2010, 11:28:23 pm
ANYWAY, I don't know what to think anymore and I have to go study.
Post by: webadict on March 09, 2010, 11:34:12 pm
Pandarsenic broke mathematics.You can think dakarian is scum when they pull my diseased carcass off the ground tomorrow.
ANYWAY, I don't know what to think anymore and I have to go study.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 09, 2010, 11:42:20 pm
So did Pandarsenic give away a double voter?
Or does math just fail?
Anyhow, dakarian is scum. He will always be scum.
Sorry, I broke math. Got confused about it.
Post by: tehstefan on March 10, 2010, 12:53:17 am
You may have said it before, true, but I want to hear right now your reasoning behind it. I've not heard much from you really, and I think its only fair you say your reasonings.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 01:03:17 am
Wow, way to jump off that real quick when it didn't look good. That's real scummy, man. Real scummy. She wasn't even voting you either, merely pointing out your scumtells. Though now I think that those scumtells are a lot more prominent, I was initially just pointing out what she had said. Talk about not reading someone's posts, huh.
Sure, it could have been major, but there's no way that scum would let something that blatantly obvious slip so casually, and you still jumped on it faster than fleas on a hobo. Scrambling to cover yourself?
Sidelining? I think not. I'm content to watch both WebAdict and Dak for scumtells. What I was doing was pointing out that you were saying that WA was a good lynch target, yet you voted for Vector. And then you unvoted as soon as someone drew attention to it. What's going on with that, scum?
I jumped off because, you know, my entire main point was invalidated. If I kept going it would of been retarded because I had no more case.
So you're saying that scum don't put out scum tells and that anything that looks scummy is actually townie mistakes? That makes PERFECT sense!
I said that Webadict would be a good lynch target if somebody was actively trying to lynch him. And there were (and are) several people actively trying to lynch him. I've said several times that I don't think Webadict is mafia-based scum. Of course, the fact he's complaining about me calling him a Jester only makes me think he's a Jester more, since who WOULDN'T want to be called a Jester except a Jester?
Still, he seems to have some vested interest in the game, so I'm not going to write him off or anything. I'm just not going to vote to lynch him, that's all. While I'm on the subject, the Webadict bandwagon fell apart really fucking fast. It's OBSCENELY obvious that it was filled with scum who were worried that Webadict wouldn't be an easy lynch.
Here's the most votes Web had:
webadict [5]: Dakarian, ToonyMan, SirBayer, Nirur Torir, Diakron
And here's the most recent vote count:
webadict [2]: ToonyMan, Diakron
So SirBayer, Nirur Torir, and Dakarian all hopped off the Webadict-wagon. So what SPECIFICALLY made you three decide that Webadict isn't scum? I know some of you have already covered this already, just say it again or post a link.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 07:43:17 am
As for the bandwagon on me? I purposefully painted myself as a target, seeing who went for the easy lynch. I have:
CobalKobold - Quite probably scum, unless CK has a great reason for this extended absence. Voted me for the Webadict bandwagon, and has been perfectly content to ride my bandwagon.
SirBayer - He was the only one who actually tried to identify if I was scum or not.
Leafsnail - He tried to vote me because he misinterpreted my words, whether purposefully or accidentally. Watch him.
Dakarian - Scum. He's voting me because of my Webadict bandwagon.
Vector - Probably a townie. Voting me because I provoked an attack.
Lynch Dakarian when you're done with my lynch. Please.
Post by: dakarian on March 10, 2010, 08:39:27 am
Personally, I don't get and really don't like the fan club I have. I feel like I could point at anyone and get them lynched at this point. I'm pretty darn sure a nice batch of scum flowed into the webadict lynch since web is a big target and the town would either focus on me or walk away from it afterwards without even looking at the wagon riders.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 10:27:57 am
I joined the Webadict bandwagon purely to pressure him. I intended to jump off when he had six votes if he still hadn't broken.YeeHAW! We got us a Cowboy over here! And he's under fire for NO REASON WHATSOEVER.
As for the bandwagon on me? I purposefully painted myself as a target, seeing who went for the easy lynch. I have:
CobalKobold - Quite probably scum, unless CK has a great reason for this extended absence. Voted me for the Webadict bandwagon, and has been perfectly content to ride my bandwagon.
SirBayer - He was the only one who actually tried to identify if I was scum or not.
Leafsnail - He tried to vote me because he misinterpreted my words, whether purposefully or accidentally. Watch him.
Dakarian - Scum. He's voting me because of my Webadict bandwagon.
Vector - Probably a townie. Voting me because I provoked an attack.
Lynch Dakarian when you're done with my lynch. Please.
He's telling the truth. It's quite obvious he was. He wasn't very good about DOING IT, but he's not scum. He's not. Really, look at all of his words and tell me he's scum. Literally. Look at everything he's done! It's like most of his words are saying, "I'm a Townie!"
Of course, dakarian over here begs to differ, what with numbers being on his side. Logic always loses to numbers.
The entire point to me voting for webadict was to apply pressure to him. I wasn't even fully set on him being a lynch in the first place (I make sure I'm VERY clear when I'm at that point). When everyone bandwagoned on him, he finally broke that shell he placed so I could get a read on him. The results was 3rd party. Since I'm after scum and and only scum, I took my vote off of him.Yes, you WOULD want to look town, wouldn't you? Tell me, sir, how does somebody look third party, and just which third party am I? Which one would I have to be? Come on, you're some sort of expert on reading people and of logic and lots of crap.
Personally, I don't get and really don't like the fan club I have. I feel like I could point at anyone and get them lynched at this point. I'm pretty darn sure a nice batch of scum flowed into the webadict lynch since web is a big target and the town would either focus on me or walk away from it afterwards without even looking at the wagon riders.
I'm glad you pointed out what I so graciously have: They're following their leader. Well, not likely. Everyone's just following you becasue... I dunno. You're scum, really. It's kinda obvious. I mean, just look at your terribad reasoning for everything. You have since refused to defend yourself from me, posting one to two sentences about how I'm:
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Not scum and not townWhich means I have to be something, right? I mean, there's only 6 different types of third parties--Survivor, Cult, Serial Killer, Jester, Lyncher, and Mafia-Ally--and the last one is pretty much mafia. I mean, you're just making things up on the SPOT. AND EVERYONE'S TOTALLY EATING IT UP.
So, just who exactly am I? Come on, you clearly have a depth of knowledge on THIRD PARTY TELLS. I mean, I just keep this whole library of knowledge in my head, and what do you know, somebody checked out my book on third party tells.
Let's hear it.
Post by: dakarian on March 10, 2010, 11:25:05 am
You didn't have that at the start of the game. You hid behind awkward commentary and jokes. NOW I'm seeing you as aggressive and scumhunting, but that's half reactionary and half due to you believing I'm scum. The shell is broken now, but it existed before and it existed for a reason.
Simply put, You Are Hiding Something, and it's something big enough to make you want to hide it.
However, you aren't flinging any other types of scumtells, and you ARE on the hunt. When you finally broken, you broke honest and now your manner screams out "I'm not scum, dammit!"
Still, it took too long to break it. That's why I don't just say "ok, you aren't scum" and walk away like normal. It nags at me too much. Thus why you get the 'not town but not scum' mess.
So what are you of the third parties? No clue, though not cult since that's just a nonkilling scum anyway. If you're the SK, you're a hard read because I can't spot it on you. That leaves Survivor, Jester, or Lyncher unless Pandar decided to REALLY go off the wall and make something unique.
So why am I not sure which it is? Because I have a lynch Ineed to plan, and none of those three types needs to be lynched. I want scum dead, you aren't reading as scum, so I will not want you lynched today. That's the heart and soul of it.
As for Nirur, I cry MEH to the Gambit. "I didn't really mean to kill Webadict, I was just scumhunting." is pretty easy for scum to pull if they don't mind being a little ballsy.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 11:36:52 am
Your stated reason for attacking me:
*blink* Diakron is on a mood stabilizer IRL?AFTER I said that my bandwagon vote was a pressure vote.
That might explain something. Meh and double meh. unvote diakron
Ok, let's KISS it then. Nirur Torir, when this happened:unVote VectorI can see only one reason for this: To pressure me into pulling my vote of Webadict. You're not saying I'm scum because of my bandwagon. You're not using it as a step to question me with it.
'ote Nirur Torir ALARUM ALARUM
[abbr="banned wagon" ->bandwagon]FORBIDDEN TROLLEY[/abbr]
Webadict seems like he's hiding something to me: my vote remains, for now.
Why do you want me to unvote Webadict?
Did you really try to discredit someone for finding an actual scumtell? Yes, bandwagoning IS a scumtell and needs to be called out. It's silly to mark it as just "wanting me to pull my vote" unless you are honestly saying that both Web and Cobalt are a scumteam.
Now you say you're voting me because of my "meh" efforts, which would be easy for scum to pull off.
I ask you: Why does that make me the scummiest person here, that you need to join the bandwagon on me, and feel no need to question others?
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 11:56:45 am
Townies are open and honest. Some players, by meta, are hard reads naturally, but beyond that, a townie is too busy looking for scum to worry about their image.Townies are open and honest... right... Too busy... to worry about image... RIGHT!
You didn't have that at the start of the game. You hid behind awkward commentary and jokes. NOW I'm seeing you as aggressive and scumhunting, but that's half reactionary and half due to you believing I'm scum. The shell is broken now, but it existed before and it existed for a reason.
Simply put, You Are Hiding Something, and it's something big enough to make you want to hide it.So... I'm hiding something, but I'm not scum? Sure, we can contradict ourselves all Day long, if you want.
However, you aren't flinging any other types of scumtells, and you ARE on the hunt. When you finally broken, you broke honest and now your manner screams out "I'm not scum, dammit!"
Still, it took too long to break it. That's why I don't just say "ok, you aren't scum" and walk away like normal. It nags at me too much. Thus why you get the 'not town but not scum' mess.Yeah, some of us don't really like to roleclaim in some situations, ya know??? Your analysis is a mish-mash of crap and you're explanation is also crap. And yet you're the one that's saying image doesn't matter, but then why are you after Nirur Torir?!?
So what are you of the third parties? No clue, though not cult since that's just a nonkilling scum anyway. If you're the SK, you're a hard read because I can't spot it on you. That leaves Survivor, Jester, or Lyncher unless Pandar decided to REALLY go off the wall and make something unique.Right, because Jester makes sense when I'm close to being lynched. Riiiiiight...
So why am I not sure which it is? Because I have a lynch Ineed to plan, and none of those three types needs to be lynched. I want scum dead, you aren't reading as scum, so I will not want you lynched today. That's the heart and soul of it.No, you don't want me lynched because I'm willing to sacrifice my life to kill you. That's why. You were lurking until you could find a way out, and why not jump onto the guy that's applying pressure?
As for Nirur, I cry MEH to the Gambit. "I didn't really mean to kill Webadict, I was just scumhunting." is pretty easy for scum to pull if they don't mind being a little ballsy.I'll repeat this:
Townies are open and honest. Some players, by meta, are hard reads naturally, but beyond that, a townie is too busy looking for scum to worry about their image.Huh...
I guess that DOESN'T apply to Nirur Torir, does it, dakarian?
Or would you rather that the same applied to you. You're voting for Nirur Torir for the VERY SAME REASON that you voted for me. I mean, you even said that you won't THINK about it! You said "Meh" to that!
You're not trying!
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 10, 2010, 12:30:19 pm
So SirBayer, Nirur Torir, and Dakarian all hopped off the Webadict-wagon. So what SPECIFICALLY made you three decide that Webadict isn't scum? I know some of you have already covered this already, just say it again or post a link.
For now, unvote Mr.Person. I've still got an eye on you, but I would very much like to see this question answered. Putting a FoS onto Dakarian for the moment, and a vote on SirBayer because it's not like you to lurk like this. I know you've been online, and yet I've seen no real posts out of you lately. Add to that the fact that you're one of the people that jumped the WA bandwagon and then jumpde off, and your lurking looks reeeally scummy. Until I see something out of you, here's a pressure vote to get you talking and answering that question that Mr.Person posed.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 12:38:02 pm
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 10, 2010, 12:56:05 pm
un'ote Nirur Torir
'ote dakarian Yer scum, die. You and *finger at SirBayer*. Probably Leaf for 3rd,
Nah, he suggests martyrdom.
*points finger at Mr.Person* Hi there, cultman!
Unvote Vector. Didn't even notice she was voting me.The first hint of an accusation of omgus and you back down. (It's an unfounded accusation, too; 'ector ne'er 'oted you by my notes)
You don't replace 'otes. You're not really hunting.
CK, I still want an answer.eh? I missed the question, somehow. Point it out, please.
I figured CK was either reaction testing, trying to get me to remove my vote, or going for an easy lynch. I was trying to figure out which. I have concluded that CK was merely going for an easy lynch, due to the lack of response.Sorry, like I said, missed your question.
Last role in the list (Numa) is an asteroid. Try to keep up.Vector, you botched your fake-claim again. Explain exactly why you felt that Jokerman, a newbie who you could easily break, needed to be suicide-bombed for lurking. Then explain why Pandarsenic didn't notice what you wanted when you activated your "ability." Finally, explain why you didn't start yelling when Pandarsenic failed to notice what you wanted.Especially what Asteroids have to do with anything.
Okay, I'm going to have to ask Cobalt, why are you voting Nirur?Jumpy 'ote, fourth'ote, and asking 'ector to attacknalyze someone for him.
You may have said it before, true, but I want to hear right now your reasoning behind it. I've not heard much from you really, and I think its only fair you say your reasonings.
I joined the Webadict bandwagon purely to pressure him. I intended to jump off when he had six votes if he still hadn't broken.Not great, but: culmination of weeks of insomnia.
As for the bandwagon on me? I purposefully painted myself as a target, seeing who went for the easy lynch. I have:
CobalKobold - Quite probably scum, unless CK has a great reason for this extended absence. Voted me for the Webadict bandwagon, and has been perfectly content to ride my bandwagon.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 01:01:21 pm
I wasn't accusing him of bussing, please re-read for quotation marks.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?Quote from: Nirur TorirI must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
Yes, the possibility of somebody creating a Mafia game without townies does exist from my perspective. Why doesn't it exist from yours?Flip-flopping ever isn't good. It's scummy. You don't drop a vote for the sake of voting, you push, you push! You chase that person down unless you have reason to go for someone else, as in they're being horribly suspicious. You break people.Then we have different objectives during RVS. Mine is to get the conversation started; votes facilitate that.
You weren't in BM9, were you...?
Quote from: Nirur
QuoteI'm a new player, and yet I just went head-on with Webby. No need to be afraid.Yea, and I just rammed him head-first, giving myself a concussion to bruise him slightly. It was indeed surprisingly easy.
A concussion is meaningless if you discover what you want to.
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QuoteAdmirable, but scum-tells are scum-tells and scum make more scum-tells than town.Who's scummier: Somebody who joins a bandwagon to lynch somebody they feel is scum, or somebody who is afraid to join a bandwagon to lynch a suspected scum, afraid of being lynched themselves?
Ooh, but this is what I was looking for. Justification! You shouldn't care about this, according to your own damn self. And now you're worrying about how you look. "Who's Scummier?" You, apparently.
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So, in the end, I still think you're scum.Suit yourself, just don't blind yourself to the rest of the game with your suspicions of me.[/quote]
I blind no one who doesn't want to be blinded.
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
Because he's scum? I don't exclude Dak from the scumlist, but now you're defending Nirur (see the "WE GOT A COWBOY" post) because he agrees with you. So suddenly when he changes his argument, he's a goddamn genius? Please, Webby.
Here's the most votes Web had:webadict [5]: Dakarian, ToonyMan, SirBayer, Nirur Torir, Diakron
And here's the most recent vote count:webadict [2]: ToonyMan, Diakron
So SirBayer, Nirur Torir, and Dakarian all hopped off the Webadict-wagon. So what SPECIFICALLY made you three decide that Webadict isn't scum? I know some of you have already covered this already, just say it again or post a link.
I decided that Webby is a Jester when, as you pointed out, he said "LYNCH DAK AND THEN ME IF I'M WRONG". A good way to line himself up for the second lynch.
Joker: Dude, this hasn't even been twenty-four hours. You missed four days straight off the bat. Relax, I'm here.
Cobalt: So you FoS me...
...and then present zero evidence against me.
Way to softball the attack.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 10, 2010, 01:12:42 pm
Quote from: notes
03. SirB:Nirr8 *Web19 -irr27 +Web27(3rd)-37+nirr37
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 01:26:04 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 01:26:28 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 01:36:18 pm
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 01:52:20 pm
Lots of crapYou seriously believe I'm a Jester?
... Really? You do realize you're only rationale for that is that you assume I'm wrong about dakarian. I was also almost lynched. I could've easily gotten one more vote and lynched myself by doing much more. You guys are incredibly stupid if you're really thinking THAT was a Jester play. You guys have no idea what a Jester is.
If I were a Jester, I'd simply ignore the game completely. Literally. I would post in EVERY OTHER GAME EXCEPT THIS ONE. I was at one vote away from being able to lynch myself. You either think I'm the worst player that ever played, or you have some really bad ideas popping through your head.
But, hey. If you want to believe I'm a Jester, it only saves me from being killed, right? Once I'm dead, I'm proven Town, and that's that. But, while I'm alive, I can point out the scum and have people listen to me.
Get over yourself, SirBayer, and get some original ideas too.
And about Nirur Torir: I never said he was a genius for voting for dakarian. He's a genius for looking closely at an argument and determining something obvious. It's why I figured I'd point out how scummy Leafsnail was in P13, so that people would lynch him the NEXT DAY and while I killed Pandarsenic. You don't win by yourself. I figured people would look at what I said. But you know what?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. It never works out like that. You always lose the ones that look back, think, or do anything. You get the ones that listen to everyone's ideas, pick the scum's, and then go with that while it clearly doesn't work.
You're basically ignoring everything that is said by anyone because... he's scum? I dunno. There isn't any rhyme or reason to your vote.
Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.Because the easiest lynches are the easiest. Look, if you're not lynched, the next big bandwagon will be toward someone that either isn't posting or hasn't yet voted. It's a pretty cyclic situation that will end when somebody stops fighting, or people stop listening to the stupid ones.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 02:03:16 pm
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
Because he's scum? I don't exclude Dak from the scumlist, but now you're defending Nirur (see the "WE GOT A COWBOY" post) because he agrees with you. So suddenly when he changes his argument, he's a goddamn genius? Please, Webby.
SirBayer, that's probably the weakest and scummiest attack I've seen in awhile. You're accusing Webadict of thinking Nirur Torir is town. There is, literally, nothing wrong with that. It's not a new thing, either. Webadict's been thinking Nirur's town for awhile now. Nice softball attack, scum. So riddle me this: Is Webadict scum, SirBayer?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 02:31:48 pm
I joined the Webadict bandwagon purely to pressure him. I intended to jump off when he had six votes if he still hadn't broken.
As for the bandwagon on me? I purposefully painted myself as a target, seeing who went for the easy lynch. I have:
CobalKobold - Quite probably scum, unless CK has a great reason for this extended absence. Voted me for the Webadict bandwagon, and has been perfectly content to ride my bandwagon.
SirBayer - He was the only one who actually tried to identify if I was scum or not.
Leafsnail - He tried to vote me because he misinterpreted my words, whether purposefully or accidentally. Watch him.
Dakarian - Scum. He's voting me because of my Webadict bandwagon.
Vector - Probably a townie. Voting me because I provoked an attack.
Lynch Dakarian when you're done with my lynch. Please.
SO NIRUR, YOU PURPOSELY ACTED SCUMMY TO GET VOTES ON YOU? DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU?
WEBADICT IS STILL SCUM OF COURSE
Lots of crapYou seriously believe I'm a Jester?
... Really? You do realize you're only rationale for that is that you assume I'm wrong about dakarian. I was also almost lynched. I could've easily gotten one more vote and lynched myself by doing much more. You guys are incredibly stupid if you're really thinking THAT was a Jester play. You guys have no idea what a Jester is.
If I were a Jester, I'd simply ignore the game completely. Literally. I would post in EVERY OTHER GAME EXCEPT THIS ONE. I was at one vote away from being able to lynch myself. You either think I'm the worst player that ever played, or you have some really bad ideas popping through your head.
But, hey. If you want to believe I'm a Jester, it only saves me from being killed, right? Once I'm dead, I'm proven Town, and that's that. But, while I'm alive, I can point out the scum and have people listen to me.
Get over yourself, SirBayer, and get some original ideas too.
And about Nirur Torir: I never said he was a genius for voting for dakarian. He's a genius for looking closely at an argument and determining something obvious. It's why I figured I'd point out how scummy Leafsnail was in P13, so that people would lynch him the NEXT DAY and while I killed Pandarsenic. You don't win by yourself. I figured people would look at what I said. But you know what?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. It never works out like that. You always lose the ones that look back, think, or do anything. You get the ones that listen to everyone's ideas, pick the scum's, and then go with that while it clearly doesn't work.
You're basically ignoring everything that is said by anyone because... he's scum? I dunno. There isn't any rhyme or reason to your vote.Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.Because the easiest lynches are the easiest. Look, if you're not lynched, the next big bandwagon will be toward someone that either isn't posting or hasn't yet voted. It's a pretty cyclic situation that will end when somebody stops fighting, or people stop listening to the stupid ones.
AM I HYPOCRITICAL TO VOTE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SO STUBBORN?
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 02:36:28 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 02:38:28 pm
Protecting your scumbuddies, ToonyMan?
Who would that be?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 02:43:35 pm
ToonyMan, Diakron: You seem to be staying out of the present conflict. I would like each of you to give your thoughts on the current state of things. Preferably before the day ends.
SO NIRUR, YOU PURPOSELY ACTED SCUMMY TO GET VOTES ON YOU? DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU?I would hope so, because otherwise we've got 5 scum out there.
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 02:46:25 pm
Protecting your scumbuddies, ToonyMan?
Who would that be?
Whoever voted for Nirur Torir that you're trying to protect by calling them "town votes."
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 02:55:50 pm
AND PEOPLE AGREED WITH ME
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 02:58:14 pm
ToonyMan, Diakron: You seem to be staying out of the present conflict. I would like each of you to give your thoughts on the current state of things. Preferably before the day ends.
Why is this quote here?SO NIRUR, YOU PURPOSELY ACTED SCUMMY TO GET VOTES ON YOU? DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU?I would hope so, because otherwise we've got 5 scum out there.
THAT WOULD BE BAD, GOOD THING YOU DONT ANSWER QUESTION
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 02:58:57 pm
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 03:10:54 pm
StuffYou're calling me scum... because?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 03:15:41 pm
No, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.
"DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU"
Yes, I was aware of this.
"Why is this quote here?"
I thought you may have missed it the first time, and was hoping for an answer.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 03:22:41 pm
StuffYou're calling me scum... because?
Your attacks are the same as that question, weakkkkk fauxxxxx
"SO NIRUR, YOU PURPOSELY ACTED SCUMMY TO GET VOTES ON YOU?"
No, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.
"DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU"
Yes, I was aware of this.
"Why is this quote here?"
I thought you may have missed it the first time, and was hoping for an answer.
That, you don't do that Nirur. You don't act scummy, it sounds like just an excuse for your scumminess. You and Webadict are most likely scum.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 03:30:34 pm
That, you don't do that Nirur. You don't act scummy, it sounds like just an excuse for your scumminess. You and Webadict are most likely scum.On what basis do you say that I don't act scummy?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 03:32:24 pm
Toony, please explain why you aren't voting for me if you feel I am scum. Are you afraid to have my blood on your hands after you join my bandwagon?
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 10, 2010, 03:43:47 pm
CK: I believe I was trying to get you to clarify your position, and give an exact reason for your vote.In that case, it's something tehstefan asked and I answered.
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Jumpy 'ote, fourth'ote, and asking 'ector to attacknalyze someone for him.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 03:49:08 pm
Ah, missed that.CK: I believe I was trying to get you to clarify your position, and give an exact reason for your vote.In that case, it's something tehstefan asked and I answered.QuoteJumpy 'ote, fourth'ote, and asking 'ector to attacknalyze someone for him.
For the record, I'm asking people I perceive as not doing much to analyze things so that their positions are archived for later in the game when a scum has been found.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 04:01:17 pm
Okay, so I'm scum because I have a... weak... faux? ToonyMan, I will tell this to you once and for all: YOU DO NOT AND WILL NEVER KNOW MY META. You have used the meta argument EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU HAVE VOTED ME FOR THE PAST WHO KNOWS HOW MANY GAMES AND IT HAS FAILED AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME.StuffYou're calling me scum... because?
Your attacks are the same as that question, weakkkkk fauxxxxx"SO NIRUR, YOU PURPOSELY ACTED SCUMMY TO GET VOTES ON YOU?"
No, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.
"DID YOU KNOW THAT MAKING YOURSELF SCUMMY IS GOING TO PUT TOWN VOTES ON YOU"
Yes, I was aware of this.
"Why is this quote here?"
I thought you may have missed it the first time, and was hoping for an answer.
That, you don't do that Nirur. You don't act scummy, it sounds like just an excuse for your scumminess. You and Webadict are most likely scum.
And don't use MSPA. That wasn't even a fair fight. I was actually TRYING to lynch the scum then too. I was even about to give up winning just to kill them.
Seriously, if you're going to use meta, then find meta. You haven't found a meta that's worked yet.
Now, as to the second line: What happens when one of us comes up town? Then how does that factor into the whole thing? Are we both scum because one of us is scum? What? You're not making it clear at all.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 04:48:11 pm
Leafsnail, I'm interested in your reasoning behind why your vote is on me. If you're going to lynch me, I want it to be because you want me lynched, not because you "forgot" to remove a pressure vote.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 04:49:34 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 05:05:03 pm
I just now looked at Leafsnail's profile. He was on less then two hours ago, and has so far been clearly content to let my queries on why he is voting me remain unanswered, (I'm fairly sure I'd already asked him about it) and let his vote remain on me for a misunderstanding that I had already corrected.
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 05:19:33 pm
I haven't a bloody clue as to what's going on now. Curses.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 05:27:01 pm
Post by: Diakron on March 10, 2010, 05:33:13 pm
as much as i would like to quote it i am lazy and wanting to get back to FF-13 so here's all the responses i can remember i'll answer any i forgot later.
Tehstefan, ever heard of mood stabilizers? they stop you from feeling much other then mildly happy, it's not the worse thing that i could be feeling but it makes writing styles change :D
I never talk to much becuase other people say what i have to say. I swear i UNVOTED Webaddict citing the reasoning of the fact that i don't vote people if I think im being lead around.
As for the Dak-WA thing? 2 of the best in the game are bound to go after each other... and they are reakky persuasive.
SirBayer new attack on WA is hella flimsy, as i doubt a jester would try to convince people they are town... wait WIFOM ahh brain overload >:(
nevermind i think i'll just let SB and WA pound on each other, it makes my head hurt to think of that.
NT is acting suspiscious again but some people already brought that stuff up...
what can i say, i feel like a sixth wheel on a bicycle...
Post by: Leafsnail on March 10, 2010, 05:51:04 pm
6 hours until deadline. Looks like it's 4 on me, 3 on Dakarian, 2 on Bayer, and 2 on Diakron.For things like this, funnily enough. Posts that are about as close to "Plz unvote me" as you can get without saying it explicitly. You asked a very similar question to ToonyMan. And CK. And SirBayer. Hey, is that a full set? Wow. You also throw a mild attack on ToonyMan and diakron (doing nothing to follow it up) before going back to telling people to unvote you.
Leafsnail, I'm interested in your reasoning behind why your vote is on me. If you're going to lynch me, I want it to be because you want me lynched, not because you "forgot" to remove a pressure vote.
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No, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.Also, this is bullshit. There's no reason for town to do this. Town should try to look town and, if they look scummy, explain their actions properly. Only scum would invoke this stupid excuse.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 06:03:57 pm
Leafsnail: Yes, I did ask a similar question to CK. I can't find the same question to Bayer on a quick re-skim, and I don't remember asking him why he was voting me, since he was pretty clear about why he thought I needed to die the first time.
I was asking Toony why he wasn't voting me, if he thinks I'm scum.
I may be going down, but I'm not giving those voting for me a free ride to lurk me to death.
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Town should try to look townI disagree. Town should focus on scum-hunting, NOT on avoiding scum-tells. If a townie is too busy focusing on not dropping scum-tells to lynch the scum, then that is a failed townie.
You still didn't explain why you were trying to twist my words against me earlier.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 06:12:00 pm
Extension pleaseWhy do I get the feeling you're acting like scum you?
as much as i would like to quote it i am lazy and wanting to get back to FF-13 so here's all the responses i can remember i'll answer any i forgot later.
Tehstefan, ever heard of mood stabilizers? they stop you from feeling much other then mildly happy, it's not the worse thing that i could be feeling but it makes writing styles change :D
I never talk to much becuase other people say what i have to say. I swear i UNVOTED Webaddict citing the reasoning of the fact that i don't vote people if I think im being lead around.
As for the Dak-WA thing? 2 of the best in the game are bound to go after each other... and they are reakky persuasive.
SirBayer new attack on WA is hella flimsy, as i doubt a jester would try to convince people they are town... wait WIFOM ahh brain overload >:(
nevermind i think i'll just let SB and WA pound on each other, it makes my head hurt to think of that.
NT is acting suspiscious again but some people already brought that stuff up...
what can i say, i feel like a sixth wheel on a bicycle...
You're also giving into WIFOM. The same WIFOM all the others are putting into your head to discredit me. I mean, just LOOK. It's not about my words anymore. It's about my alleged third party status (I know, right?)
You want him to sit there and let everyone vote him? Yeah, okay, let's do that. He's trying to find a legitimate person to vote, bringing up plenty of evidence. So what if he wanted to pressure someone. Didn't dakarian? Huh... OH WAIT.6 hours until deadline. Looks like it's 4 on me, 3 on Dakarian, 2 on Bayer, and 2 on Diakron.For things like this, funnily enough. Posts that are about as close to "Plz unvote me" as you can get without saying it explicitly. You asked a very similar question to ToonyMan. And CK. And SirBayer. Hey, is that a full set? Wow. You also throw a mild attack on ToonyMan and diakron (doing nothing to follow it up) before going back to telling people to unvote you.
Leafsnail, I'm interested in your reasoning behind why your vote is on me. If you're going to lynch me, I want it to be because you want me lynched, not because you "forgot" to remove a pressure vote.QuoteNo, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.Also, this is bullshit. There's no reason for town to do this. Town should try to look town and, if they look scummy, explain their actions properly. Only scum would invoke this stupid excuse.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 06:18:20 pm
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 06:31:22 pm
Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.
Because you're not nervous. Because now you've failed to actually respond to my accusations or answer my question or do anything. Because you're trying to play it cool and you're not comfortable.
Gah, I keep hitting enter.
Toony, please explain why you aren't voting for me if you feel I am scum. Are you afraid to have my blood on your hands after you join my bandwagon?
Evidence here! Wo-ho, buddy. Hitting enter, as you prove in this very same line, does not make you post. So you're nervous enough to try to explain away a post that might sound scummy with "posted before I meant to, sorry!" No. No, that isn't how the software works.
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
Because he's scum? I don't exclude Dak from the scumlist, but now you're defending Nirur (see the "WE GOT A COWBOY" post) because he agrees with you. So suddenly when he changes his argument, he's a goddamn genius? Please, Webby.
SirBayer, that's probably the weakest and scummiest attack I've seen in awhile. You're accusing Webadict of thinking Nirur Torir is town. There is, literally, nothing wrong with that. It's not a new thing, either. Webadict's been thinking Nirur's town for awhile now. Nice softball attack, scum. So riddle me this: Is Webadict scum, SirBayer?
I'm... accusing him of DEFENDING Nirur. Answering Nirur's questions for him, supporting him, buddying him. That's... got nothing to do with whether I think he's town or not.
And I shouldn't have to answer that, since I JUST FUCKING TOLD YOU, but I will: I think he's a Jester, as of this moment.
Webby:
Lots of crapYou seriously believe I'm a Jester?
... Really? You do realize you're only rationale for that is that you assume I'm wrong about dakarian. I was also almost lynched. I could've easily gotten one more vote and lynched myself by doing much more. You guys are incredibly stupid if you're really thinking THAT was a Jester play. You guys have no idea what a Jester is.
No, apparently you couldn't have gotten that one more vote, since you didn't. Hell, you claimed at L-2, which is funky to me - like you really expected it to reach L-1 but it didn't quite. And if you did more, you'd be obvious - more obvious than you are now, apparently.
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If I were a Jester, I'd simply ignore the game completely. Literally. I would post in EVERY OTHER GAME EXCEPT THIS ONE. I was at one vote away from being able to lynch myself. You either think I'm the worst player that ever played, or you have some really bad ideas popping through your head.
Or, y'know, we'd assume you were an inactive, you'd receive a prod, and if you didn't join back in you'd get replaced.
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But, hey. If you want to believe I'm a Jester, it only saves me from being killed, right? Once I'm dead, I'm proven Town, and that's that. But, while I'm alive, I can point out the scum and have people listen to me.
Get over yourself, SirBayer, and get some original ideas too.
What... do you mean? Are you trying to tell me that actually attempting to play the game makes me cocky or something? What the hell do you even mean?
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And about Nirur Torir: I never said he was a genius for voting for dakarian. He's a genius for looking closely at an argument and determining something obvious. It's why I figured I'd point out how scummy Leafsnail was in P13, so that people would lynch him the NEXT DAY and while I killed Pandarsenic. You don't win by yourself. I figured people would look at what I said. But you know what?
Paranormal 13. Which I didn't play. Which you know I didn't played. That whole sequence of events means nothing to me, Webadict; it's not a legitimate argument to me. Did you... did you get lynched one day, then... kill Pandarsenic? It's not even clear.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! No. It never works out like that. You always lose the ones that look back, think, or do anything. You get the ones that listen to everyone's ideas, pick the scum's, and then go with that while it clearly doesn't work.
What, the scum lose the votes of the people who think? SO YOU JUST TOLD ME THAT YOU'RE SCUM AND THAT YOU'RE WANTING TO CONTROL MY VOTE?
So you're definitely a Jester, since that's hilariously blatant.
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You're basically ignoring everything that is said by anyone because... he's scum? I dunno. There isn't any rhyme or reason to your vote.
I'm... again failing to follow your rationale at all.
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Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.Because the easiest lynches are the easiest. Look, if you're not lynched, the next big bandwagon will be toward someone that either isn't posting or hasn't yet voted. It's a pretty cyclic situation that will end when somebody stops fighting, or people stop listening to the stupid ones.
See, no. It's because I think he's scum. I've provided my rationale, I continue to provide my rationale, and yet you pretend like I don't. You're scum or Jester, and I think you're Jester.
Extension.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 10, 2010, 06:38:48 pm
You want him to sit there and let everyone vote him? Yeah, okay, let's do that. He's trying to find a legitimate person to vote, bringing up plenty of evidence. So what if he wanted to pressure someone. Didn't dakarian? Huh... OH WAIT.???
What. The. Fuck. I'm beginning to see how you could be a jester.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 06:50:58 pm
EXTENSION
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 06:51:42 pm
Webadict is a Jester.Yeah, right. I come up with legitimate reasons to lynch someone, AND I'm a Jester. Uh huh. I mean, I didn't try to get everyone off of me at L-2 (I even thought it was L-1). Because, you know, all of this makes sense.
Do you even know WHY you're asking for an Extension? You just are. The person you're voting for is currently up to be lynched, so it seems very pointless, wouldn't you agree?
I doubt you know a whole lot, but you're not going to listen because you think I'm a Jester because somebody threw out the WIFOM that I'm a Jester and therefore are susceptible to anything.
Watch: Mr.Person is a Cult! Oh no!
Yeah, okay, you do that.You want him to sit there and let everyone vote him? Yeah, okay, let's do that. He's trying to find a legitimate person to vote, bringing up plenty of evidence. So what if he wanted to pressure someone. Didn't dakarian? Huh... OH WAIT.???
What. The. Fuck. I'm beginning to see how you could be a jester.
You guys are seriously morons. You don't even know what you're saying half of the time, making things up. I'm pretty sure you're only saying I'm a Jester because dakarian said it. So, once dakarian is dead and comes up scum, what then? Am I going to still be a Jester?
I know what you must be thinking: "DURR... BUT I ARE A MORON." And you'd probably be right. Wanna know a big secret? You're the reasons we lose. We have perfect... logical... reasons. But, one person will throw out WIFOM and you'll all fester around it, procreating your own WIFOM until you believe nothing, screw yourself and the town over, and then lose.
It's just... such... bad playing. I literally have to facepalm every time I read comments like that. If I were in the same room as you, I would take a tire iron and beat you several times. It'll leave you with severe mental and physical limitations, but you'll be better off in the long run.
So, short of it: You're creating WIFOM to make people think I'm a Jester.
But, luckily, I can prove my role. So, suck a lemon.
I can't vote you Nirur when I'm voting Webadict, sorry.Right. That makes sense.
EXTENSION
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 06:54:14 pm
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 06:54:46 pm
I can't vote you Nirur when I'm voting Webadict, sorry.
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WHAT THE HELL.
Why does no one else see that this man is scum? Holy hell, he's acting just like he always does as scum. Unvote whoever I'm voting. ToonyMan. You're scum, and I'll be sure you hang.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 06:55:49 pm
Webadict isn't Jester, he would have self-hammered.At least we agree on one thing. Except I was never at L-1.
... Except that we'd really like to kill dakarian at this point.I can't vote you Nirur when I'm voting Webadict, sorry.
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WHAT THE HELL.
Why does no one else see that this man is scum? Holy hell, he's acting just like he always does as scum. Unvote whoever I'm voting. ToonyMan. You're scum, and I'll be sure you hang.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 06:56:09 pm
You're doing this in every game to me fyi.
Post by: Vector on March 10, 2010, 06:58:15 pm
... Except that we'd really like to kill dakarian at this point.
You're a lyncher. And no, I'm not going to kill off Dakarian just because you say so.
What? I find Webadict more scum than Nirur, how is this NOT logical?
You're doing this in every game to me fyi.
It's your behavior, and I'm doing this to you in every game because you're acting like this in every game and--LO AND BEHOLD--you were SCUM in every game. So sorry, I'm calling you out on it now.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 07:02:05 pm
Why aren't I nervous? Because I'm right where I planned to be: Analyzing those who jumped on me when I painted a target on myself.Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.
Because you're not nervous. Because now you've failed to actually respond to my accusations or answer my question or do anything. Because you're trying to play it cool and you're not comfortable.
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Evidence here! Wo-ho, buddy. Hitting enter, as you prove in this very same line, does not make you post. So you're nervous enough to try to explain away a post that might sound scummy with "posted before I meant to, sorry!" No. No, that isn't how the software works.Yea. I intended to say post. I consider enter to be nearly synonymous with submit, it's a bad habit.
Extension.To not-Bayer people: I think Bayer's probably not scum. It would be so easy for him to just claim that he's certain I'm scum, yet he continues to try to break me, rather then just go for the kill.
Toony: The question was because you claimed both of us scum, and I was far closer to a lynch.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:04:10 pm
Why yes you are closer to lynch that's not going to make me go all SQUEE and bandwagon you, I want Webadict destroyed first. I ain't no scummy guy jumping on trains.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 07:04:45 pm
Spoiler: getting too long (click to show/hide)
WARNING: SEVEN NEW POSTS
I'll reply once I've posted this.
Post by: Eduren on March 10, 2010, 07:06:14 pm
Unvote Diakron because I am getting nowhere with you.
Toonyman. You have done nothing this game but act scummy. You're dismissive, passive, and have made no real attempts to find scum. If you are so sure of Nirur and Web than who is number 3?
Why yes you are closer to lynch that's not going to make me go all SQUEE and bandwagon you, I want Webadict destroyed first. I ain't no scummy guy jumping on trains."I'm going to consciously avoid looking scummy durr."
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 07:06:34 pm
This came up in Pandar UPick as well with me and Cheeetar.You're too afraid of being called out on bandwagoning to lynch a suspected scum who's likely to get lynched, instead going for somebody who is unlikely to be voted today, and not actually working towards getting Webadict lynched.
Why yes you are closer to lynch that's not going to make me go all SQUEE and bandwagon you, I want Webadict destroyed first. I ain't no scummy guy jumping on trains.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:08:59 pm
[colror=red]Unvote Webadict[/color].
Vote Nirur sure.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:09:23 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:10:53 pm
I'll make sure to do this in the future, voting people that want to get lynched is fun.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 07:14:29 pm
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 07:23:10 pm
Unvote Nirur.I have no idea. He's physically unreadable, which is why I always kill him.
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 07:28:41 pm
Quote from: WebadictDo you even know WHY you're asking for an Extension? You just are. The person you're voting for is currently up to be lynched, so it seems very pointless, wouldn't you agree?
You're assuming I'm lynching him for the sake of making him dead, which is a wonderful way to paint a scumtell on me that isn't there. So thanks for the WIFOM.
I know exactly why I'm asking for an extension.
Why are you so worried about getting scumtells painted on you?
Why the fuck ELSE would you vote for the guy who's going to get lynched? Pressure? He's already got enough pressure, there's no point. You can ask your question without voting the player.
And then you don't say the reason you're asking for an extension despite the fact Webadict specifically asked for you to say it.
Because I want to hear him talk. I THINK he's scum but I don't know it, and I'd like to KNOW it before he's dead. YOU taught me this, Webadict. YOU helped me learn in the Beginner's Mafias that this was what you did with scum, and YOU expect me to believe that you'll just turn around and drop that without some being-scum? No. No, I refuse to do that.Again, why would you vote the player who's going to get lynched except to further their lynched-ness? It makes no sense. If 6 votes aren't going to panic them, why would 7 votes do any better? If they're already panic'd, you're free to just ask them questions, no pressure needed.
Unvote Nirur.
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
One thing I've found to be VERY consistant is that mafia players care a lot more about the votecount than townies. It's obvious that ToonyMan is nowhere near getting lynched. In fact, I think he has fewer votes than Nirur Torir right now.
Why the hell would you back off of Nirur Torir because you couldn't read him? If you can't read a player, ask more questions! Get information! Don't back off and go for another guy just because you can't read the first guy. That's literally quitting. What, do you think he's going to become easier to read tomorrow when he has little to no pressure on him?
Post by: Eduren on March 10, 2010, 07:32:32 pm
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.I don't normally analyze his meta. But it seems that when he is town, he pushes people more. This time, hes not actually pushing it, not pressuring them. He's just faking aggression.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 07:38:14 pm
Quote from: WebadictDo you even know WHY you're asking for an Extension? You just are. The person you're voting for is currently up to be lynched, so it seems very pointless, wouldn't you agree?
You're assuming I'm lynching him for the sake of making him dead, which is a wonderful way to paint a scumtell on me that isn't there. So thanks for the WIFOM.
I know exactly why I'm asking for an extension.
Why are you so worried about getting scumtells painted on you?
Why the fuck ELSE would you vote for the guy who's going to get lynched? Pressure? He's already got enough pressure, there's no point. You can ask your question without voting the player.
Mr.Person. I was one of the first people on him. I voted him to BREAK him. I've failed to do that. I WAS PRESSURING HIM. OTHERS VOTED TO KILL HIM.
I'm not worried about scumtells being painted on me, I'm worried about Webadict's WIFOM.
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And then you don't say the reason you're asking for an extension despite the fact Webadict specifically asked for you to say it.
No, see you're fucking blind. It's right there, right under the things you've quoted, and you're telling me it's not there?!
Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.
Because you're not nervous.
Because I want to hear him talk. I THINK he's scum but I don't know it, and I'd like to KNOW it before he's dead. YOU taught me this, Webadict. YOU helped me learn in the Beginner's Mafias that this was what you did with scum, and YOU expect me to believe that you'll just turn around and drop that without some being-scum? No. No, I refuse to do that.
This entire thing is an exact explanation of why I asked for an extension. Precisely.
Because I want to hear him talk. I THINK he's scum but I don't know it, and I'd like to KNOW it before he's dead. YOU taught me this, Webadict. YOU helped me learn in the Beginner's Mafias that this was what you did with scum, and YOU expect me to believe that you'll just turn around and drop that without some being-scum? No. No, I refuse to do that.Again, why would you vote the player who's going to get lynched except to further their lynched-ness? It makes no sense. If 6 votes aren't going to panic them, why would 7 votes do any better? If they're already panic'd, you're free to just ask them questions, no pressure needed.[/quote]
See the part where I was one of the first people on him, if not THE first. I didn't add a vote, I was one of the first two. See for yourself. (http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=50568.msg1076912#msg1076912)
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Unvote Nirur.
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
One thing I've found to be VERY consistant is that mafia players care a lot more about the votecount than townies. It's obvious that ToonyMan is nowhere near getting lynched. In fact, I think he has fewer votes than Nirur Torir right now.
I didn't check the votecount. Lazy, but that's the facts. I'm not interested in accidentally hammering ToonyMan, so I didn't vote for him until I was more confident.
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Why the hell would you back off of Nirur Torir because you couldn't read him? If you can't read a player, ask more questions! Get information! Don't back off and go for another guy just because you can't read the first guy. That's literally quitting. What, do you think he's going to become easier to read tomorrow when he has little to no pressure on him?
I think he's town. I'm not confident, but I think he is.
Why would I continue to vote for and pressure someone I think is town? That doesn't even make sense.
Eduren: I'm asking about the sudden change of vote-target. Is it normal for him to just follow someone else's suggestion on a vote-target?
Thinking about it: Since I've checked the vote-count and MrPerson is right, he's at like L-4 or something, Vote Toonyman.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:39:14 pm
Hhaha, you're voting me because I don't have as much votes as you thought I had, that means you don't want to lynch me for some reason, funny that.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 07:43:03 pm
SirBayer is the #3 scum.
Hhaha, you're voting me because I don't have as much votes as you thought I had, that means you don't want to lynch me for some reason, funny that.
No, I don't want to lynch you.
I want you to feel uncomfortable, which as your panicked OMGUS shows, you are.
Now I wait for more input on your meta, which I don't know very well.
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 07:47:28 pm
Unvote Nirur.I have no idea. He's physically unreadable, which is why I always kill him.
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
Missed this. Interesting input, if rather impractical.
Post by: Eduren on March 10, 2010, 07:49:16 pm
Eduren: I'm asking about the sudden change of vote-target. Is it normal for him to just follow someone else's suggestion on a vote-target?Nope.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 07:58:23 pm
Just..pressure....by not doing anything else?
Yeah OK
Post by: SirBayer on March 10, 2010, 08:10:49 pm
You don't want to lynch me?
Just..pressure....by not doing anything else?
Yeah OK
I'm gathering information.
No need to worry - or rather, definitely a need to worry.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 08:11:52 pm
Quote from: WebadictDo you even know WHY you're asking for an Extension? You just are. The person you're voting for is currently up to be lynched, so it seems very pointless, wouldn't you agree?
You're assuming I'm lynching him for the sake of making him dead, which is a wonderful way to paint a scumtell on me that isn't there. So thanks for the WIFOM.
I know exactly why I'm asking for an extension.
Why are you so worried about getting scumtells painted on you?
Why the fuck ELSE would you vote for the guy who's going to get lynched? Pressure? He's already got enough pressure, there's no point. You can ask your question without voting the player.
Mr.Person. I was one of the first people on him. I voted him to BREAK him. I've failed to do that. I WAS PRESSURING HIM. OTHERS VOTED TO KILL HIM.
I'm not worried about scumtells being painted on me, I'm worried about Webadict's WIFOM.
Wait, what? You think Webadict's throwing WIFOM and your first response isn't to point it out or attack Webadict or anything useful, it's to defend yourself? That makes perfect sense! Coupled with the fact there's literally no WIFOM as far as I can tell, you're scum trying to create WIFOM where there isn't any before. Added on top of the fact you were trying to blame another player for making it, it just looks really ugly for you.
Quote from: MrPersonAnd then you don't say the reason you're asking for an extension despite the fact Webadict specifically asked for you to say it.
No, see you're fucking blind. It's right there, right under the things you've quoted, and you're telling me it's not there?!Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.
Because you're not nervous.
Because I want to hear him talk. I THINK he's scum but I don't know it, and I'd like to KNOW it before he's dead. YOU taught me this, Webadict. YOU helped me learn in the Beginner's Mafias that this was what you did with scum, and YOU expect me to believe that you'll just turn around and drop that without some being-scum? No. No, I refuse to do that.
This entire thing is an exact explanation of why I asked for an extension. Precisely.
But SirBayer, that's you responding to yourself about why you voted Nirur Torir. That has nothing to do with asking for an extension. If you still wanted him to crack, you sure did a lousy job of it by not throwing out question streams.
Quote from: MrPersonWhy the hell would you back off of Nirur Torir because you couldn't read him? If you can't read a player, ask more questions! Get information! Don't back off and go for another guy just because you can't read the first guy. That's literally quitting. What, do you think he's going to become easier to read tomorrow when he has little to no pressure on him?
I think he's town. I'm not confident, but I think he is.
Why would I continue to vote for and pressure someone I think is town? That doesn't even make sense.
So you've been lying to me. You said you couldn't break him. Either you broke him or you're just saying he's town for no reason. I don't know why you would lie about breaking him, but the point is, you broke him then claimed you couldn't break him Why did you say you couldn't break him when you got an opinion only obtainable from breaking him?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 08:16:26 pm
You don't want to lynch me?
Just..pressure....by not doing anything else?
Yeah OK
I'm gathering information.
No need to worry - or rather, definitely a need to worry.
You want me to help with your math homework?
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 08:29:50 pm
Unvote Dakarian. Vote Toonyman.
ToonyMan, you're hard to read. You did take the path that I suggested was less scummy, with your claimed reason of voting me being "he wants to be lynched," admitting that you were voting based on my advice. You posted fairly frequently during the run up to my almost-lynch, but I don't actually remember what you did, and don't remember you taking a firm stance.
I deem you lynch-worthy based on taking my advice, me perceiving you as passive, and generally because I don't want to be with somebody hard to read who acts scummy at LyLo.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 08:47:35 pm
2. You're voting me because you can't read me. Check.
3. Any sense in your reason. Not check.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 08:48:46 pm
That's like the 5th this month dood.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 08:49:57 pm
Everyone else I do not understand your reasoning AT ALL.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 09:06:32 pm
ToonyMan, you are the next most scummy target on my metaphorical list who is likely to be lynched, and with your current behavior I consider you a dangerous person at LyLo. Thus, I am aiding with your lynch.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 09:18:31 pm
Why aren't you voting Dakarian? Is he too hard for you or what? You said yourself you think he is scum MORE THAN I AM!
I don't want you to place a vote on me and be like, "I'm done for today, see you tomorrow when you're lynch sucker!"
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 09:19:15 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 10, 2010, 09:28:41 pm
I would rather lynch Dakarian, but, frankly, today's events tired me out, and I don't feel like pushing the lynch on him.Its fine that you are acting pragmatically. Just keep it to yourself.
ToonyMan, you are the next most scummy target on my metaphorical list who is likely to be lynched, and with your current behavior I consider you a dangerous person at LyLo. Thus, I am aiding with your lynch.
Toony. You're dead.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 09:35:02 pm
Screw you guys with voting me Day 1 everyday.
Another townie dead.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 10, 2010, 09:36:43 pm
You were after the one you "knew" to be scum but unlikely to be lynched, rather then the one you "thought" to be scum.
I am after the one I "think" to be scum, rather then the one I "know" to be scum but unlikely to be lynched.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 10, 2010, 09:38:15 pm
Leafsnail [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
webadict [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
ToonyMan[4]: Vector, Eduren, SirBayer, Nirur Torir
Dakarian [2]: webadict, CobalKobold
Nirur Torir [3]: Leafsnail, Dakarian, ToonyMan
SirBayer [2]: Jokerman-EXE, Mr.Person
Mr.Person [Z]:
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Diakron [1]: tehstefan
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
4523425 further extensions
Deadline Friday at 11 PM Pacific.
I see no evidence that Toony is hammered unless I missed A LOT.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 09:39:39 pm
I don't get it Nirur.
Also, I'm not dead Eduren, why'd you say that?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 09:40:21 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 10:10:56 pm
Speak up.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 10, 2010, 10:15:47 pm
I would rather lynch Dakarian, but, frankly, today's events tired me out, and I don't feel like pushing the lynch on him.
ToonyMan, you are the next most scummy target on my metaphorical list who is likely to be lynched, and with your current behavior I consider you a dangerous person at LyLo. Thus, I am aiding with your lynch.
BULL FUCKING SHIT
The only reason you're voting ToonyMan rather than Dakarian is because if you vote Dakarian, he'd be tied in votes with you. You're voting ToonyMan to save your own ass. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.
Post by: Eduren on March 10, 2010, 10:24:41 pm
Are you expecting me to die or something Eduren?You're as good as dead. Scum.
Speak up.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 10:36:22 pm
Are you expecting me to die or something Eduren?You're as good as dead. Scum.
Speak up.
Your attack on me is incredibly powerful, scum.
Post by: webadict on March 10, 2010, 10:56:32 pm
Because the Day's going to end in three seconds.I would rather lynch Dakarian, but, frankly, today's events tired me out, and I don't feel like pushing the lynch on him.
ToonyMan, you are the next most scummy target on my metaphorical list who is likely to be lynched, and with your current behavior I consider you a dangerous person at LyLo. Thus, I am aiding with your lynch.
BULL FUCKING SHIT
The only reason you're voting ToonyMan rather than Dakarian is because if you vote Dakarian, he'd be tied in votes with you. You're voting ToonyMan to save your own ass. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 11:03:38 pm
Hammer/Dead-line combo.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 10, 2010, 11:21:34 pm
I would rather lynch Dakarian, but, frankly, today's events tired me out, and I don't feel like pushing the lynch on him.
ToonyMan, you are the next most scummy target on my metaphorical list who is likely to be lynched, and with your current behavior I consider you a dangerous person at LyLo. Thus, I am aiding with your lynch.
What the fuck is this shit, man?
You're saying that you have a prime target, but you're going to just give up on voting him? You're going for the easy lynch, because you think you have enough to justify a second-guess vote. The question I have is, would you have made this move if Toony didn't have so many votes?
I think not.
Unvote SirBayBay, cause I'm voting Nirur for this horrible bandwagoning and letting the scum totally go. Stinks of scum to me.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 10, 2010, 11:28:09 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 10, 2010, 11:46:06 pm
Leafsnail [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
webadict [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
ToonyMan[4]: Vector, Eduren, SirBayer, Nirur Torir
Dakarian [2]: webadict, CobalKobold
Nirur Torir [5]: Leafsnail, Dakarian, ToonyMan, Mr.Person, Jokerman-EXE
SirBayer [Z]:
Mr.Person [Z]:
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Diakron [1]: tehstefan
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
Deadline Friday at 11 PM Pacific. One shortening request noted.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 10, 2010, 11:49:31 pm
Post by: webadict on March 11, 2010, 12:06:52 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 11, 2010, 12:26:39 am
Why the shorten request?
Getting tired of the day, man. Fatigue and all that, we're starting to go in circles. (Or so it seems to me.)
Post by: webadict on March 11, 2010, 12:44:09 am
Circles. Certainly.Why the shorten request?
Getting tired of the day, man. Fatigue and all that, we're starting to go in circles. (Or so it seems to me.)
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 11, 2010, 01:53:38 am
un'ote daka-patterns suggest better. It feels like there's something fishy already with correlation but it's not popping out of my notes.
Nirur Torir has, howe'er, been
Watch: Mr.Person is a Cult! Oh no!Agreed.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 01:58:44 am
Leafsnail [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
webadict [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
ToonyMan[4]: Vector, Eduren, SirBayer, Nirur Torir
Dakarian [1]: webadict
Nirur Torir [6]: Leafsnail, Dakarian, ToonyMan, Mr.Person, Jokerman-EXE, CobaltKobold
SirBayer [Z]:
Mr.Person [Z]:
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Diakron [1]: tehstefan
Vector [None]:
13 alive, 7 to hammer
Deadline Friday at 11 PM Pacific. One shortening, one extension noted.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 11, 2010, 02:02:49 am
Also, 't'
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 02:08:08 am
But yeah, it's fine as-is (as an extension request). No worries.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 11, 2010, 02:29:09 am
on board w/Extension!
un'ote daka-patterns suggest better. It feels like there's something fishy already with correlation but it's not popping out of my notes.
Nirur Torir has, howe'er, beenworsescummier than Toony, definitely. As that's L-1, any last words?Watch: Mr.Person is a Cult! Oh no!Agreed.
This is obvious bullshit bandwagoning. Do you even know what Nirur Torir did that's so scummy? I'm going to say no because you didn't say in your original vote post. You also didn't post a reason for unvoting Dakarian. This is extremely fishy.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 11, 2010, 03:04:28 am
Great no-see-um fallacy there btw. He has one of the jumpiest 'otes(you and dakarian are now worse in that regard), now a 3rd AND 4th 'ote.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 03:37:25 am
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 11, 2010, 08:32:08 am
Alright, last words:
After careful thought, Dakarian's not even trying. Quite possibly the jester, rather then scum. It's been bothering me, but I couldn't quite see it. I request an investigation on him tonight.
Re-read what Leafsnail did and said throughout the day. He is scum; I request a vig kill on him tonight. I was going to kill him tonight with my CPR doc ability, and didn't want to put him through the inquisition in case the vig caught on.
Bayer was the only one to actually try to scumhunt me. He is the towniest of all of you.
There's something off about Mr. Person. He is my third guess for scum, with ToonyMan being the second. He sounded desperate when trying to find out why people were voting him.
And yes, I admit that feeling it being ToonyMan or me played a part in my logic, but that's human nature. I know who I am, and I do not know who ToonyMan is. Ergo, it is logical to get him killed over myself. I thought it was patently obvious, and didn't see the point in stating it.
Quote from: Jokerman
Unvote SirBayBay, cause I'm voting Nirur for this horrible bandwagoning and letting the scum totally go.Pathetic reason. My vote was to help lynch somebody I feel is probably scum, and somebody who is dangerous at LyLo.
Do not let my sacrifice be for nothing.
Post by: webadict on March 11, 2010, 09:03:25 am
Oh, yea, I could have worded my reasons better. That was mostly from the shock of the lynch on me breaking up, when I went into it expecting to get killed.See ya. :\
Alright, last words:
After careful thought, Dakarian's not even trying. Quite possibly the jester, rather then scum. It's been bothering me, but I couldn't quite see it. I request an investigation on him tonight.
Re-read what Leafsnail did and said throughout the day. He is scum; I request a vig kill on him tonight. I was going to kill him tonight with my CPR doc ability, and didn't want to put him through the inquisition in case the vig caught on.
Bayer was the only one to actually try to scumhunt me. He is the towniest of all of you.
There's something off about Mr. Person. He is my third guess for scum, with ToonyMan being the second. He sounded desperate when trying to find out why people were voting him.
And yes, I admit that feeling it being ToonyMan or me played a part in my logic, but that's human nature. I know who I am, and I do not know who ToonyMan is. Ergo, it is logical to get him killed over myself. I thought it was patently obvious, and didn't see the point in stating it.Quote from: JokermanUnvote SirBayBay, cause I'm voting Nirur for this horrible bandwagoning and letting the scum totally go.Pathetic reason. My vote was to help lynch somebody I feel is probably scum, and somebody who is dangerous at LyLo.
Do not let my sacrifice be for nothing.
I'll Extend.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 11, 2010, 09:09:55 am
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when I went into it expecting to get killed.Before anybody else points this out: it does make sense, since I knew I had a chance of not dying, and claiming doc isn't a good move for staying alive, even with succeed in getting the rest of the town to believe me.
[....]
I was going to kill him tonight with my CPR doc ability, and didn't want to put him through the inquisition in case the vig caught on.
Post by: webadict on March 11, 2010, 11:01:14 am
People are just going to vote you more now that you're supplying WIFOM.Quotewhen I went into it expecting to get killed.Before anybody else points this out: it does make sense, since I knew I had a chance of not dying, and claiming doc isn't a good move for staying alive, even with succeed in getting the rest of the town to believe me.
[....]
I was going to kill him tonight with my CPR doc ability, and didn't want to put him through the inquisition in case the vig caught on.
Just push them before you die. I have plans for dakarian, anyhow.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 11, 2010, 11:41:08 am
I disagree. He's quieter as scum and enters an extremely strange state when he's cornered as scum (think NSBM).Unvote Nirur.I have no idea. He's physically unreadable, which is why I always kill him.
Despite my hesitations, you seem rather calm in the face of a lynch, and like you're still working on scum-hunting. Not entirely sure about you, but since I can't seem to break you, no point in mucking about with my vote on you.
Only not voting Toonyman because I'm not sure where we are votes-wise and I don't want to accidentally hammer.
Toony... uh. Talk about reacting to criticism of your vote-strategy.
Vector, Eduren, Leafy or anyone else who knows Toony better than I do - is this normal behavior? I want at LEAST three difference sources so that I can be confident I'm not listening to a scumteam.
...Why are you talking like this to the guy you want to kill?You don't want to lynch me?
Just..pressure....by not doing anything else?
Yeah OK
I'm gathering information.
No need to worry - or rather, definitely a need to worry.
Interesting turn of events.Scummy scum is scum. You say he's hard to read in order to distance yourself from the outcome of a ToonyMan lynch, are attacking someone for doing something you described as less scummy (would you attack him if he did the more scummy thing?) and, what's more, claim you "don't remember" exactly what happened, so no evidence can directly contradict you. You also decide to cover yet another base by pushing it on a policy lynch platform, although why you didn't suggest this earlier is unstated. Besides, if we are going to policy lynch (I don't think it's a good idea, personally) shouldn't we lynch a newbie or a lurker?
Unvote Dakarian. Vote Toonyman.
ToonyMan, you're hard to read. You did take the path that I suggested was less scummy, with your claimed reason of voting me being "he wants to be lynched," admitting that you were voting based on my advice. You posted fairly frequently during the run up to my almost-lynch, but I don't actually remember what you did, and don't remember you taking a firm stance.
I deem you lynch-worthy based on taking my advice, me perceiving you as passive, and generally because I don't want to be with somebody hard to read who acts scummy at LyLo.
Quote
And yes, I admit that feeling it being ToonyMan or me played a part in my logic, but that's human nature. I know who I am, and I do not know who ToonyMan is. Ergo, it is logical to get him killed over myself. I thought it was patently obvious, and didn't see the point in stating it.Uhuh. So you vote ToonyMan purely for self preservation (not scummy at all, right?) and then request a vig kill on me.
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Re-read what Leafsnail did and said throughout the day. He is scum; I request a vig kill on him tonight. I was going to kill him tonight with my CPR doc ability, and didn't want to put him through the inquisition in case the vig caught on.Sorry, I laughed so much after reading this I forgot what I was going to say. Needless to say it is complete bullshit.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 11, 2010, 12:06:33 pm
Quote from: JokermanUnvote SirBayBay, cause I'm voting Nirur for this horrible bandwagoning and letting the scum totally go.Pathetic reason. My vote was to help lynch somebody I feel is probably scum, and somebody who is dangerous at LyLo.
Do not let my sacrifice be for nothing.
I understand what you're saying, but at the moment you do appear the scummiest to me. I'm not going to back off just because you offer a counter - that would render the game kind of boring, you know? I genuinely think that you're the scummiest person right now.
That's not to say that I'm not listening to you. Your suspicions have been noted (and, for the most part, supported, as I think is obvious) by pretty much all of us. It's pretty clear where Day 2's FoS are going to be pointed (*coughDakariancough*).
In the meantime, die scum.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 11, 2010, 12:09:41 pm
A "misunderstanding" and then twisting my words, trying to get me to incriminate myself.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?Quote from: Nirur TorirI must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
After a while, another attack on me, only AFTER I ask for it:
ToonyMan did a much stronger "plz unvote me" statement, and to save himself. You never did show me where I asked Bayer to unvote me, or why you think town should focus on not dropping scum-tells.6 hours until deadline. Looks like it's 4 on me, 3 on Dakarian, 2 on Bayer, and 2 on Diakron.For things like this, funnily enough. Posts that are about as close to "Plz unvote me" as you can get without saying it explicitly. You asked a very similar question to ToonyMan. And CK. And SirBayer. Hey, is that a full set? Wow. You also throw a mild attack on ToonyMan and diakron (doing nothing to follow it up) before going back to telling people to unvote you.
Leafsnail, I'm interested in your reasoning behind why your vote is on me. If you're going to lynch me, I want it to be because you want me lynched, not because you "forgot" to remove a pressure vote.QuoteNo, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.Also, this is bullshit. There's no reason for town to do this. Town should try to look town and, if they look scummy, explain their actions properly. Only scum would invoke this stupid excuse.
You haven't scum-hunted yet. You've just ridden my bandwagon. I'll be happy to continue talking with you in dead-chat as your scumbuddies get summarily executed tomorrow, thanks to my actions.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 11, 2010, 12:31:38 pm
You haven't scum-hunted yet. You've just ridden my bandwagon. I'll be happy to continue talking with you in dead-chat as your scumbuddies get summarily executed tomorrow, thanks to my actions.
You think someone is going to listen to you after your death? That never happens. Especially when scum always lie to deceive and trick.
Quote from: JokermanUnvote SirBayBay, cause I'm voting Nirur for this horrible bandwagoning and letting the scum totally go.Pathetic reason. My vote was to help lynch somebody I feel is probably scum, and somebody who is dangerous at LyLo.
Do not let my sacrifice be for nothing.
I understand what you're saying, but at the moment you do appear the scummiest to me. I'm not going to back off just because you offer a counter - that would render the game kind of boring, you know? I genuinely think that you're the scummiest person right now.
That's not to say that I'm not listening to you. Your suspicions have been noted (and, for the most part, supported, as I think is obvious) by pretty much all of us. It's pretty clear where Day 2's FoS are going to be pointed (*coughDakariancough*).
In the meantime, die scum.
You're being really weird Jokerman, because, I don't know if you know, but asking for a shortening because you don't want to go on with the day kinda STIFFENS information that is pretty much needed for Mafia.
Post by: SirBayer on March 11, 2010, 12:39:07 pm
It's worse coming back to it than it is actually playing. :I
Anyway.
...Why are you talking like this to the guy you want to kill?You don't want to lynch me?
Just..pressure....by not doing anything else?
Yeah OK
I'm gathering information.
No need to worry - or rather, definitely a need to worry.
Because why not? He's asking me questions and I'm answering them. That's what you do with questions, isn't it?
I need to do another sweep on this whole affair. I'm still not convinced Nirur's scum, but I did only skim the last few pages, so I need to go give it a bit more thorough reading.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 11, 2010, 12:47:33 pm
You're being really weird Jokerman, because, I don't know if you know, but asking for a shortening because you don't want to go on with the day kinda STIFFENS information that is pretty much needed for Mafia.
I actually didn't know that. I'm just going with what the mentors said in Boot Camp, that if it seems the day is dragging on too long then you should try to get it ended. Can you explain what you meant by stiffen?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 11, 2010, 12:56:58 pm
Post by: SirBayer on March 11, 2010, 01:04:46 pm
Spoiler: MrPerson (click to show/hide)
On the matter of Nirur.
I really don't know what to think. I still lean towards not-scum, but I guess I'm going to find out.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 11, 2010, 01:38:31 pm
Webadict was not throwing out WIFOM. Stop trying to make it, it doesn't exist. Period. End of story. I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore.
SirBayer, trying to kill people via lynch is, in no way, scummy. I have no idea why you think that lynching people is evil and vile and whatever, but it's the whole point of the game. Pressure votes are one thing, sure, but voting a guy who has 3 other votes (including not unvoting, so this does mean you) sends a strong message that you want the player you're voting lynched. Either that or you don't care, but that's pretty easy to determine.
Post by: Leafsnail on March 11, 2010, 01:50:30 pm
Purely self-preservation? Explain where I said that. Self-preservation has never been an important goal for me goal in this particular game.Yeah, I have no idea where I got that idea from.
Quote from: What Nirur Torir Wrote
I know who I am, and I do not know who ToonyMan is. Ergo, it is logical to get him killed over myself.
Quote from: What Nirur Torir Obviously Meant
Getting a towny lynched today would be much better than getting a mafia member like myself lynched. I don't really care who, but don't lynch me, ok?
Quote from: Leafsnail
Actually, no. The main part of that question was asking whether you thought SirBayer was bussing a partner, and if so, why.A "misunderstanding" and then twisting my words, trying to get me to incriminate myself.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?Quote from: Nirur TorirI must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
After a while, another attack on me, only AFTER I ask for it:You'd been doing the rounds telling everyone to unvote you. If you can think of a town way of interpreting that I'd like to here it.
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ToonyMan did a much stronger "plz unvote me" statement, and to save himself. You never did show me where I asked Bayer to unvote me, or why you think town should focus on not dropping scum-tells.[/quote]QuoteNo, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.Also, this is bullshit. There's no reason for town to do this. Town should try to look town and, if they look scummy, explain their actions properly. Only scum would invoke this stupid excuse.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.And I didn't say town should avoid dropping tells. I said trying to make yourself look like scum as town is stupid.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
You haven't scum-hunted yet. You've just ridden my bandwagon. I'll be happy to continue talking with you in dead-chat as your scumbuddies get summarily executed tomorrow, thanks to my actions.Well, if I haven't scumhunted, then I guess the scum has jumped right into my hands. There is no pro-town explanation for what you're claiming to have done. Nor is there any pro-towniness in lining up a lynch tomorrow on someone you are not even voting today.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 11, 2010, 02:07:17 pm
Why are you trying to put words into my mouth?Purely self-preservation? Explain where I said that. Self-preservation has never been an important goal for me goal in this particular game.Yeah, I have no idea where I got that idea from.Quote from: What Nirur Torir WroteI know who I am, and I do not know who ToonyMan is. Ergo, it is logical to get him killed over myself.Quote from: What Nirur Torir Obviously MeantGetting a towny lynched today would be much better than getting a mafia member like myself lynched. I don't really care who, but don't lynch me, ok?
Interesting way of interpreting the bold words. Nice of you to clarify the first time I asked. OHWAITQuote from: LeafsnailActually, no. The main part of that question was asking whether you thought SirBayer was bussing a partner, and if so, why.A "misunderstanding" and then twisting my words, trying to get me to incriminate myself.Quote from: Nirur TorirI parry your attack, and raise you a counterattack. Bold text is my own.Lol. Unvote SirBayer, vote Nirur Torir.And yet you vote for the same person he did. Could you explain what makes you think he is bussing?Quote from: Nirur TorirI must say, a Mafia game where there are secretly 4 mafias of 3 players each and a serial killer would be amusing.And I guess this is a possibility from your perspective? I'll give you a hint - it isn't a possibility from mine.
I'd been telling people with unclear reasons for voting me to either find reasons worth lynching me for, and state them, or get out, hopefully forcing the scum to be less passive.Quote from: Nirur TorirAfter a while, another attack on me, only AFTER I ask for it:You'd been doing the rounds telling everyone to unvote you. If you can think of a town way of interpreting that I'd like to here it.
QuoteToonyMan did a much stronger "plz unvote me" statement, and to save himself. You never did show me where I asked Bayer to unvote me, or why you think town should focus on not dropping scum-tells.QuoteNo, I purposely acted in such a way that made me easy to attack.Also, this is bullshit. There's no reason for town to do this. Town should try to look town and, if they look scummy, explain their actions properly. Only scum would invoke this stupid excuse.
Quote from: Nirur Torir
Bayer: Why do you continue to push me? I'm already at 5 votes, and you're the only one who has made a serious attempt at it.And I didn't say town should avoid dropping tells. I said trying to make yourself look like scum as town is stupid.[/quote]
Sure is, but that hasn't stopped it from netting me the scum.
Why are you afraid of it, if I'm going to just flip scum?Quote from: Nirur TorirYou haven't scum-hunted yet. You've just ridden my bandwagon. I'll be happy to continue talking with you in dead-chat as your scumbuddies get summarily executed tomorrow, thanks to my actions.Well, if I haven't scumhunted, then I guess the scum has jumped right into my hands. There is no pro-town explanation for what you're claiming to have done. Nor is there any pro-towniness in lining up a lynch tomorrow on someone you are not even voting today.
Because you know I'll flip town, and are trying to discredit me.
We're done. I have what info I wanted; I see no reason to give you another day to weasel out of your death.
Hammer Vote Nirur Torir.
Post by: SirBayer on March 11, 2010, 02:25:29 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 07:57:10 pm
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 11, 2010, 07:58:49 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 08:04:09 pm
Nirur Torir gains a wild gleam in his eye. "I'll show you!" he shouts. "I'll show you all! They said I was spreading WIFOM, but wine is bad for you except in small quantities, here, I'll show you I meant what I said!"
He grabs for a gun on the table and, not finding one, grabs the whole table and bludgeons himself to death with it!
Nirur Torir, townie, has been moved to the Recycle Bin.
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Nirur Torir - Townie, Jacob (Henriquez) de Castro Sarmento
You are a Portuguese physician, naturalist, and poet. You are a medicinally talented individual and if you visit somebody at night, you can perform SCIENCE on them to save them from being killed. If they're killed. If they're not, you might get a bit overeager and accidentally perform a "medical misadventure" on them, though....
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 11, 2010, 11:29:17 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2010, 08:18:37 pm
Cemetery?
Leafsnail, townie, has been moved to the Recycle Bin.
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Leafsnail - Townie, Blackwood-Harwood Plantations Cemetery
You are a historic cemetery. All players who die in this game are buried on your grounds, and as long as you are alive you may communicate freely with them. Once per game, you can can use your extensive experience with dead people to determine whether a particular string of uninterrupted words of any length is entirely truthful or not entirely truthful. Despite, y'know. Being a cemetery.
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Ignoring that a dying cemetery makes no sense, you bury Leafsnail in a cemetery and continue.
Day ends 5 PM Pacific on Tuesday.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 13, 2010, 08:25:24 pm
Are you expecting me to die or something Eduren?You're as good as dead. Scum.
Speak up.
Vote Eduren, that was some pretty good sidelining yesterday.
Post by: Eduren on March 13, 2010, 08:28:19 pm
How was he boosted?QuoteLeafsnail - Townie, Blackwood-Harwood Plantations Cemetery
You are a historic cemetery. All players who die in this game are buried on your grounds, and as long as you are alive you may communicate freely with them. Once per game, you can can use your extensive experience with dead people to determine whether a particular string of uninterrupted words of any length is entirely truthful or not entirely truthful. Despite, y'know. Being a cemetery.
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Sidelining? You even admitted that I was the only person putting out good reasons. Whats changed?Are you expecting me to die or something Eduren?You're as good as dead. Scum.
Speak up.
Vote Eduren, that was some pretty good sidelining yesterday.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 13, 2010, 08:32:54 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 13, 2010, 08:38:47 pm
Are you just stringing words and names together or do you actually want to accuse me of something?
Post by: webadict on March 13, 2010, 08:49:29 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 13, 2010, 08:56:00 pm
What?
Are you just stringing words and names together or do you actually want to accuse me of something?
Don't play stupid, that won't work.
Sidelining.
SIDELINING. Act of non-aggression, letting others do your work, town against town.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2010, 09:29:26 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2010, 09:51:47 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2010, 09:52:39 pm
Reopening topic after I eat dinner and figure out what I messed up. <_<
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 13, 2010, 11:49:24 pm
Also, "KNIFE AND FORK" is in effect.
Post by: webadict on March 14, 2010, 12:12:57 am
Post by: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 12:56:30 am
Post by: Mr.Person on March 14, 2010, 01:23:44 am
NEVER
FUCKING
SELF-HAMMER
UNLESS
IT
WINS
YOU
THE
GAME!!!
How FUCKING stupid do you have to be to fucking hammer yourself? Not only does it hurt the team you're on, it also makes you look like a total fucking moron. It's the equivalent of saying, "Screw you guys, I'm going home," and then rage quitting.
Here, let me do it this way. Either nobody would of hammered you Nirur Torir, or the person who did hammer you would provide a TON of information. By hammering yourself, not only have you killed yourself in the event nobody wanted to hammer you (in fact, we'll never know for sure if nobody wanted to hammer you), but you've also taken information away from the rest of us. We'll now never know who would of hammered you.
So here's to you, people who self-hammer! You're a group of morons! If I was the host of this game, I would write you up for a rule violation. Then again, I would also put out in the OP that one of the rules was "Always play to win. If you don't feel like playing, request a replacement. Intentionally not playing to win will result in a rule violation." So there'd be no excuse, and that's just me.
Anyways, back to your regularly scheduled game. Continuation vote for SirBayer.
Post by: webadict on March 14, 2010, 01:45:23 am
Web WHAT power?Hahaha. I thought I was a Jester, pal?
But, now that you know that I know you're scum, you're just going to have to fish out as much information as you can, right?
So, can we lynch dakarian now that I know he's scum?
Post by: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 08:47:20 am
unvote Webadict
Meanwhile:
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Continuation vote for SirBayer.
Mr.Person What 'continuation'? You were voting for Nirur before so your push on SirBayer only just started. You didn't even bother to explain why you are doing what you are doing with the brand new day we have.
Post by: Nirur Torir on March 14, 2010, 09:04:03 am
Post by: Mr.Person on March 14, 2010, 09:43:44 am
Post by: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 09:53:36 am
Post by: Org on March 14, 2010, 10:32:44 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 14, 2010, 11:28:53 am
And Org takes the replace.
ToonyMan hides his face.
Post by: Org on March 14, 2010, 11:30:08 am
hehehe.And Org takes the replace.
ToonyMan hides his face.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 14, 2010, 11:45:17 am
O.o you thought you was a Jester? Did your shell come back on?
unvote Webadict
Wow Dakarian, what a quick hop that was. Why would you just sort of flop like that?
Instead of a meh post you could've done just that
Talk about a meh post. Trying to appear active by pointing out someone else's mehness? Scummy, I do say.
Post by: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 12:59:07 pm
Mr.Person did a "I'll explain everything shortly." So I replied with "Then do it!". There's not much more to say until he replies.. IF he replies.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 14, 2010, 01:12:39 pm
When he actually does something wrong I'll do more than a quick prod.
Huh?
Post by: Mr.Person on March 14, 2010, 02:45:57 pm
Who's voting Nirur Torir and why are you guys bandwagoning him instead of dakarian, who should be the lynch target. Someone PLEASE KILL HIM.
Because he's scum? I don't exclude Dak from the scumlist, but now you're defending Nirur (see the "WE GOT A COWBOY" post) because he agrees with you. So suddenly when he changes his argument, he's a goddamn genius? Please, Webby.
SirBayer, that's probably the weakest and scummiest attack I've seen in awhile. You're accusing Webadict of thinking Nirur Torir is town. There is, literally, nothing wrong with that. It's not a new thing, either. Webadict's been thinking Nirur's town for awhile now. Nice softball attack, scum. So riddle me this: Is Webadict scum, SirBayer?
Now then, on to other matters.
Web WHAT power?
That's rolefishing.
O.o you thought you was a Jester? Did your shell come back on?
Either you're being dense on purpose or you just made a grave mistake. Webadict asked you "Why are you voting me if you think I'm a jester?", to which you respond with confusion... and back off. Wait, if you were confused, why did you back off?
Post by: dakarian on March 14, 2010, 07:05:31 pm
No, I didn't think he was a jester. 3rd party, but not jester. He didn't ask if I thought he was a jester, he said "I thought I was a Jester, pal?"
No, I don't get that and thought he was just being meh again like early D1. As stated, I'm still deeming him 3rd party so there's no point to pushing farther unless something shows up.
As for your attack in Sir.. I dislike the start of it. I CAN see Sir's argument of buddying as legitimate, especially since that's a VERY powerful tool the scum have against the town. After that, he explained his actions and pushed and attacked. His votes were not among the first but instead of a bandwagon (which you advocate with the "why are you still pressuring him?") he actually tries to read people.
Simply put, I see that he's actually hunting. That's why I didn't go after him Day 1 (and yes, I saw you two fighting then). You, however, seem to be picking every little detail desperate for SOMETHING to stick. Thus why you bug about how I'm treating Web even though I made myself VERY clear how I am reading him.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 14, 2010, 08:44:36 pm
Post by: webadict on March 14, 2010, 10:19:18 pm
Web felt that it was important for us to know that he 'had the power'. So, of course, I'll want to know what he was babbling about.You guys, dakarian is scum.
No, I didn't think he was a jester. 3rd party, but not jester. He didn't ask if I thought he was a jester, he said "I thought I was a Jester, pal?"
No, I don't get that and thought he was just being meh again like early D1. As stated, I'm still deeming him 3rd party so there's no point to pushing farther unless something shows up.
As for your attack in Sir.. I dislike the start of it. I CAN see Sir's argument of buddying as legitimate, especially since that's a VERY powerful tool the scum have against the town. After that, he explained his actions and pushed and attacked. His votes were not among the first but instead of a bandwagon (which you advocate with the "why are you still pressuring him?") he actually tries to read people.
Simply put, I see that he's actually hunting. That's why I didn't go after him Day 1 (and yes, I saw you two fighting then). You, however, seem to be picking every little detail desperate for SOMETHING to stick. Thus why you bug about how I'm treating Web even though I made myself VERY clear how I am reading him.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 15, 2010, 12:31:18 am
Let's vote dakarian!Something happen?
same text appears on Nirur. Therefore neither could be boosted.How was he boosted?QuoteLeafsnail
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Something feels off. Petherbridges as Cop Roleblocker? One is a 9th-d at judo, one is an Adelaide landowner, one is a footballer.
Also, webadict, what do you mean by cop roleblocker? roleblocker-of-cops?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 12:45:36 am
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Dakarian [2]: Webadict, Jokerman-EXE
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: ToonyMan
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Mr.Person [1]: Dakarian
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [1]: Mr.Person
ToonyMan [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [1]: CobaltKobold
11 alive, 6 to hammer
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2010, 08:42:25 am
... Roleblocker of cops?Let's vote dakarian!Something happen?same text appears on Nirur. Therefore neither could be boosted.How was he boosted?QuoteLeafsnail
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Something feels off. Petherbridges as Cop Roleblocker? One is a 9th-d at judo, one is an Adelaide landowner, one is a footballer.
Also, webadict, what do you mean by cop roleblocker? roleblocker-of-cops?
Are you really trying to stretch that? Like, you HAVE to stretch that in order to get that. It's Cop/Roleblocker.
Dakarian is scum. I know that for a fact. He has yet to deny the fact that he's scum since I've claimed he is scum. Wanna know why? Because he's scum. Seriously, he knows I know he's scum, so he's just going to ignore everything I say.
Now, seriously, can we lynch him? Because he's scum. It's blatantly obvious, too.
So, dakarian, why did you kill Leafsnail last Night? What did you gain from that? Pretty lame kill, in my opinion, since it seems you're trying to destroy everything Nirur Torir said about dakarian. Plus, I had no idea what Leafsnail was, since he usually plays very similar.
Web felt that it was important for us to know that he 'had the power'. So, of course, I'll want to know what he was babbling about.Right! So voting for me is the right thing to do, instead of asking. You have so many better targets, but you had to waste some of your time and everyone else's time voting. Did what I say make you think I was scum? Because none of what you're saying actually adds up!
No, I didn't think he was a jester. 3rd party, but not jester. He didn't ask if I thought he was a jester, he said "I thought I was a Jester, pal?"Sure. Whatever lets you sleep at Night. Or kill. If I'm a third party, why on Earth would you vote me instead of scum? You said earlier that you only plan to lynch scum. What happened to that? See, you're contradicting yourself in lots of places. You're not even doing anything.
No, I don't get that and thought he was just being meh again like early D1. As stated, I'm still deeming him 3rd party so there's no point to pushing farther unless something shows up.Okay, makes your point very moot, doesn't it? I've had a few times as third party, and even then I don't screw over the Town. You act like third party is some sort of mindless idiot, and even were I third party, I have better things to do then ruin my credibility. Like lynch you.
As for your attack in Sir.. I dislike the start of it. I CAN see Sir's argument of buddying as legitimate, especially since that's a VERY powerful tool the scum have against the town. After that, he explained his actions and pushed and attacked. His votes were not among the first but instead of a bandwagon (which you advocate with the "why are you still pressuring him?") he actually tries to read people.What the heck are you trying to say? "I agree but not really." It's incredibly passive and incredibly unlike you.
Simply put, I see that he's actually hunting. That's why I didn't go after him Day 1 (and yes, I saw you two fighting then). You, however, seem to be picking every little detail desperate for SOMETHING to stick. Thus why you bug about how I'm treating Web even though I made myself VERY clear how I am reading him.Hahahaha. You're basically saying, "I'm not going to reply to anything he says." Okay, well then can someone else say it for me? Something's going to stick because YOU'RE SCUM. That's why it will stick! It's out there! There's so many things that, yes, some should stick!
You act like you couldn't possibly have ANY SCUMTELLS OUT THERE EVER! That's stupid! Of course you have scumtells. Every Town does! Denying that there are any out there is scummy, because only the scum care about that or are paying enough attention to think so!
My goodness!
Post by: SirBayer on March 15, 2010, 12:15:40 pm
I was under the impression people that went for breaking people only called sides after breaking people. Not sure when that changed. So, SirBayer, why does Nirur Torir appear town to you, and why aren't you fighting to save him if you think he's town? I'm bothered extremely by how passive you are about the guy you think is town getting lynched and the people you think are scum getting a free pass.
Nirur looked like town. I didn't break him entirely, which was annoying, but I figured there was no point in lingering on him.
Oh, and I didn't defend him because, y'know, that's a stupid thing to do. You let people answer their own questions. You, just like Webadict, appear to be criticizing me for doing things that townies do. Which, needless to say, I find incredibly suspicious.
Quote from: MrPerson
Webadict was not throwing out WIFOM. Stop trying to make it, it doesn't exist. Period. End of story. I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore.
Just read it again. Read it a few more times. And then stop defending your buddy.
Quote from: MrPerson
SirBayer, trying to kill people via lynch is, in no way, scummy. I have no idea why you think that lynching people is evil and vile and whatever, but it's the whole point of the game. Pressure votes are one thing, sure, but voting a guy who has 3 other votes (including not unvoting, so this does mean you) sends a strong message that you want the player you're voting lynched. Either that or you don't care, but that's pretty easy to determine.
OH, OKAY
VOTING TO KILL PEOPLE WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS A-OKAY!
No. No, I vote to pressure, and if they turn up scum, I leave it there. You don't vote with intention to kill, not in the Mafia I've been taught to play. Pressure first, then killing. Only killing when you're sure the target is scum.
Web WHAT power?
That's rolefishing.O.o you thought you was a Jester? Did your shell come back on?
Either you're being dense on purpose or you just made a grave mistake. Webadict asked you "Why are you voting me if you think I'm a jester?", to which you respond with confusion... and back off. Wait, if you were confused, why did you back off?
So, first part is... retarded confusion or complete lack of attention. Gee, I guess you don't need to read his posts to know his alignment?
Second part is an accusation.
That is never followed through on. The next post is all of "GEE WELL THAT'S HOW I DO THINGS" when Dak actually replies to your arguments. So I guess you've really got nothing on him but your complaints that he's capable of making an argument.
Mr. Person.
You're making attacks. You're not following through with them. You've got no reason, and when confronted with that fact, you drop all your arguments and run for cover behind "THAT'S WHAT I DO". You're defending Webadict, attacking (sideline attacking, anyway) the same person he's attacking, and you haven't really spoken a word to him or gotten in on any of the arguments or talked about his alignment or anything.
You're related somehow and I want to know how, and I want to know how now.
Sam I am. I do not like green eggs and ham.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 01:42:24 pm
That's why people think not voting to kill is scummy. You can't just be like, "I'm going to place my vote on this dude and back off if he's not my type." You vote someone and ATTACK them. See Webadict's top post for this page (Que people bragging they don't use the default posts per page junk). Leaving a vote on someone and WAITING does NOTHING.
Speaking of which, EDUREN. Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 01:59:54 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 15, 2010, 02:16:37 pm
Nirur looked like town. I didn't break him entirely, which was annoying, but I figured there was no point in lingering on him.
Oh, and I didn't defend him because, y'know, that's a stupid thing to do. You let people answer their own questions. You, just like Webadict, appear to be criticizing me for doing things that townies do. Which, needless to say, I find incredibly suspicious.
No, if you think someone is town, you try to stop them from getting lynched. Letting a bandwagon go on without saying a peep even though you think the player getting lynched is town is extremely scummy. I'm not sure how anybody can even begin to argue otherwise, but maybe you'll surprise me.
Quote from: MrPersonWebadict was not throwing out WIFOM. Stop trying to make it, it doesn't exist. Period. End of story. I'm not even sure what you're talking about anymore.
Just read it again. Read it a few more times. And then stop defending your buddy.
You seem to be unable to point out the WIFOM in his statement, which only makes me more sure there is, in fact, no WIFOM in his statement.
First off, not everyone pressure votes. You're going to have to learn that real fast. Second, this was after you had pressure voted for awhile and others jumped in the wagon. I believe Nirur Torir had 4 votes total on him total.[/s]Quote from: MrPersonSirBayer, trying to kill people via lynch is, in no way, scummy. I have no idea why you think that lynching people is evil and vile and whatever, but it's the whole point of the game. Pressure votes are one thing, sure, but voting a guy who has 3 other votes (including not unvoting, so this does mean you) sends a strong message that you want the player you're voting lynched. Either that or you don't care, but that's pretty easy to determine.
OH, OKAY
VOTING TO KILL PEOPLE WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS A-OKAY!
No. No, I vote to pressure, and if they turn up scum, I leave it there. You don't vote with intention to kill, not in the Mafia I've been taught to play. Pressure first, then killing. Only killing when you're sure the target is scum.
Actually, fuck it. This part doesn't matter. You win the point, I don't care, it doesn't matter.
Web WHAT power?
That's rolefishing.O.o you thought you was a Jester? Did your shell come back on?
Either you're being dense on purpose or you just made a grave mistake. Webadict asked you "Why are you voting me if you think I'm a jester?", to which you respond with confusion... and back off. Wait, if you were confused, why did you back off?
So, first part is... retarded confusion or complete lack of attention. Gee, I guess you don't need to read his posts to know his alignment?
Second part is an accusation.
That is never followed through on. The next post is all of "GEE WELL THAT'S HOW I DO THINGS" when Dak actually replies to your arguments. So I guess you've really got nothing on him but your complaints that he's capable of making an argument.
I'm not sure if you realize this, but I'm sort of in the middle of voting you. It'd look quite odd if I were to drop my vote on you to join in on the Dakarian wagon.
On that note, unvote SirBayer and vote Dakarian. Does it look like I changed my mind mid-post? It should, because I did. I was rereading your actions after Nirur Torir got wagon'd when I realized that not only had you done everything you said you should, you also did exactly what I expected a townie to do and not what I would of expected scum to do. Not to be rude, but I don't think you're that good as a scum player yet. I know I'm not, and I don't think anybody but maybe Webadict or Alex are that good. Then I looked back at my entire argument, especially the tail end of it, and realized the entire thing was pointless semantics and other bullshit that wouldn't prove you town or scum no matter how you answered it. Then I looked past that we disagree on shit that, frankly, doesn't matter, and decided you were town. Then I thought how odd it would lurk to have a turnaround right after you vote me and thought about waiting. Then I realized that's what scum would of done and said "fuck it," and, that's how we're here.
Anyways, no more of that until the next paragraph. Dakarian, that may explain why you backed off of Webadict, but then that leaves the small problem of why you voted Webadict to begin with. I know this doesn't sound like enough to vote a person, but trust me. Dakarian, go ahead, answer this. Maybe your scummy self can surprise me.
Mr. Person.
You're making attacks. You're not following through with them. You've got no reason, and when confronted with that fact, you drop all your arguments and run for cover behind "THAT'S WHAT I DO". You're defending Webadict, attacking (sideline attacking, anyway) the same person he's attacking, and you haven't really spoken a word to him or gotten in on any of the arguments or talked about his alignment or anything.
You're related somehow and I want to know how, and I want to know how now.
Sam I am. I do not like green eggs and ham.
I don't think Webadict is scum, so I'm going to listen to what he says. Please clarify what you mean by related, I'm confused. Actually, you know what, don't. Your readings will be better if neither I nor Webadict have any idea what you mean, so just do whatever. As a side note, you're going to have to ask questions to get answers.
You're as blinded by bias as much as I was. Seriously, you're calling what I did sidelining? At the time, I did in fact think Dakarian was scum. OH NOES! I didn't think I made it any secret I was thinking he was scum. I don't throw around "You're scum" the way other people do, so when I say "You're scum", that means that I 100% think that player is scum. I wasn't sure with Dakarian, so I asked him some questions. I didn't like his "answers", and I decided my current vote target was scum, so I moved over to Dakarian. It's that simple.
Unless you mistakingly think that anybody who threatens without voting is sidelining, but then you have to admit, there's 3 scum and each player has 1 vote, so naturally everybody's going to have 2 players they think are scum that they aren't going to be voting. I think we have lurking scum. Yes, I fucking see you, lurkers.
Mr.Person did a "I'll explain everything shortly." So I replied with "Then do it!". There's not much more to say until he replies.. IF he replies.
Notice the veiled threat? I don't understand, did he seriously think I would just up and disappear on him? Actually, that may not of been such a bad assumption. I happen to know for a fact that lurking is a good way to get Dakarian to unvote you. Oops, I let the cat out of the bag!
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 02:31:18 pm
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Dakarian [3]: Webadict, Jokerman-EXE, Mr.Person
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: ToonyMan
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Mr.Person [2]: Dakarian, SirBayer
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [1]: CobaltKobold
11 alive, 6 to hammer
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 02:58:21 pm
BANG BANG BANG BANG OHYHIOA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00hmGA8Dz68)
His theme music, amazing.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 03:12:02 pm
SPAM HER DRIVE
Fuck you arcade mode
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 03:27:31 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 03:27:54 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 03:29:18 pm
Bang is pretty awesome. Jin is irritating. Rachel is irritating. Arakune is irritating. Rawrgnya is okay. Taokaka is funny but I can't use her well.
What do Bang's floating nails do?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 03:55:45 pm
His drive attacks are useful because if you are able to land four you can go into SUPER AWESOME FORM for about 50% heat, not a bad deal in that YOU DASH EVERYWHERE IN A BLUR, HAVE TWO MORE AIR DASHES WITHOUT NAILS, AND HAVE YELLOW HAIR.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 04:00:33 pm
HAVE YELLOW HAIR.
Sold.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 15, 2010, 04:05:15 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 15, 2010, 09:54:34 pm
Dakarian is scum. I know that for a fact. He has yet to deny the fact that he's scum since I've claimed he is scum. Wanna know why? Because he's scum. Seriously, he knows I know he's scum, so he's just going to ignore everything I say.
You've been stuck on my all the blasted game and half the time you havn't even put up anything to attack with? You want to go into "yes he is, no I'm not!" for a while then?
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Now, seriously, can we lynch him? Because he's scum. It's blatantly obvious, too.
So, dakarian, why did you kill Leafsnail last Night? What did you gain from that? Pretty lame kill, in my opinion, since it seems you're trying to destroy everything Nirur Torir said about dakarian. Plus, I had no idea what Leafsnail was, since he usually plays very similar.
I didn't kill leafsnail. I don't have a nightkill in any form. Next question?
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Web felt that it was important for us to know that he 'had the power'. So, of course, I'll want to know what he was babbling about.Right! So voting for me is the right thing to do, instead of asking. You have so many better targets, but you had to waste some of your time and everyone else's time voting. Did what I say make you think I was scum? Because none of what you're saying actually adds up!
Pressure vote. Unless I'm already on a target, I vote on whoever I'm focused on, simply put. I'm still watching you in case you do fling out scumtells.
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No, I didn't think he was a jester. 3rd party, but not jester. He didn't ask if I thought he was a jester, he said "I thought I was a Jester, pal?"Sure. Whatever lets you sleep at Night. Or kill. If I'm a third party, why on Earth would you vote me instead of scum? You said earlier that you only plan to lynch scum. What happened to that? See, you're contradicting yourself in lots of places. You're not even doing anything.
When my vote is primed to lynch, I declare it. Until then, I pressure. That's what I've ALWAYS done.
If I wanted you lynched, I would've stated I was done with you and turned to actually getting you lynched, not just asking you questions on odd comments.
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No, I don't get that and thought he was just being meh again like early D1. As stated, I'm still deeming him 3rd party so there's no point to pushing farther unless something shows up.Okay, makes your point very moot, doesn't it? I've had a few times as third party, and even then I don't screw over the Town. You act like third party is some sort of mindless idiot, and even were I third party, I have better things to do then ruin my credibility. Like lynch you.
Great. Now prove that I insinuated that you are screwing over the town. What I've said is that YOU ARE HIDING SOMETHING. You had an extra strong shell that pops back in once in a while when you aren't in full attack or defense mode. That's non-town behavior. The behavior during full attack/defense mode rules out scum for the moment. Thus I don't have many other options except 3rd party and town-with-very-strong-role.
As to why to call you 3rd rather than TWVSR? If you're 3rd then I'm right. If you're not then scum get a VERY NICE target for the night kill. Since NEITHER results in finding scum I'm better off just leaving you alone.
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As for your attack in Sir.. I dislike the start of it. I CAN see Sir's argument of buddying as legitimate, especially since that's a VERY powerful tool the scum have against the town. After that, he explained his actions and pushed and attacked. His votes were not among the first but instead of a bandwagon (which you advocate with the "why are you still pressuring him?") he actually tries to read people.What the heck are you trying to say? "I agree but not really." It's incredibly passive and incredibly unlike you.
Misread. It says "I don't believe that your argument against SirBayer is sound. SirBayer had good reasons for his attacks and has been explaining himself. He also didn't just bandwagon but actually looked for reasons for his vote."
Aka, "I disagree with Mr.Person fully"
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Simply put, I see that he's actually hunting. That's why I didn't go after him Day 1 (and yes, I saw you two fighting then). You, however, seem to be picking every little detail desperate for SOMETHING to stick. Thus why you bug about how I'm treating Web even though I made myself VERY clear how I am reading him.Hahahaha. You're basically saying, "I'm not going to reply to anything he says." Okay, well then can someone else say it for me? Something's going to stick because YOU'RE SCUM. That's why it will stick! It's out there! There's so many things that, yes, some should stick!
Misread and it's starting to sound on purpose since it's poorly out of context as well. The entire argument is that Mr.Person is just nitpicking random parts of me as I shoot down each of his arguments. None of his attacks stick but he keeps going trying to find something. It's meh and a sign that he has no strong argument on me and just wants me gone.
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You act like you couldn't possibly have ANY SCUMTELLS OUT THERE EVER! That's stupid! Of course you have scumtells. Every Town does! Denying that there are any out there is scummy, because only the scum care about that or are paying enough attention to think so!
My goodness!
Now show when I insinuated that I never threw a scumtell. The last quote shows that Mr.Person doesn't have anything real on me: he just picked me as 'the lynch' and AFTER is trying to find evidence rather than letting the evidence point to me.
Post by: dakarian on March 15, 2010, 10:09:00 pm
I'm not sure if you realize this, but I'm sort of in the middle of voting you. It'd look quite odd if I were to drop my vote on you to join in on the Dakarian wagon.
So you're deciding on who to vote for based on how others see you? Good to know. What else have you done just to look more 'town'?
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Anyways, no more of that until the next paragraph. Dakarian, that may explain why you backed off of Webadict, but then that leaves the small problem of why you voted Webadict to begin with. I know this doesn't sound like enough to vote a person, but trust me. Dakarian, go ahead, answer this. Maybe your scummy self can surprise me.
As said before, before I have a target, my vote goes where my question goes. Unlike you, I'm more concerned about keeping pressure and getting my questions answered than 'looking good'.
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Notice the veiled threat? I don't understand, did he seriously think I would just up and disappear on him? Actually, that may not of been such a bad assumption. I happen to know for a fact that lurking is a good way to get Dakarian to unvote you. Oops, I let the cat out of the bag!
Not exactly good evidence on why I'm scum there, stating that I pull back against lurkers. In fact, it sounds more like a personal attack against my style than an actual attempt to find out if I'm scum.
Of course, that wouldn't be bad except that you plopped that 3rd vote on me. Now, since you dislike me pressure voting, I'm assuming that you aren't just voting me just to answer a question, since that would be hypocritical.
So instead of showing how much you dislike how I play and throwing a WOT to talk to someone you aren't even voting on, you can explain just why I'm scum and need to be lynched right now, correct?
You can try to lurk if you wish since you think so much on how to get me to stop voting for you. After I ask the host to send a formal prod on you, I promise to drop my vote until you return.
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2010, 10:13:45 pm
Caution SirBayer.You're active lurking.
That's why people think not voting to kill is scummy. You can't just be like, "I'm going to place my vote on this dude and back off if he's not my type." You vote someone and ATTACK them. See Webadict's top post for this page (Que people bragging they don't use the default posts per page junk). Leaving a vote on someone and WAITING does NOTHING.
Speaking of which, EDUREN. Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!
Blah blah blah.You really don't get it, do you? You really don't... This is entirely laughable.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 10:17:02 pm
Post by: webadict on March 15, 2010, 10:21:43 pm
Not really no.Point proven.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 10:22:50 pm
Post by: dakarian on March 15, 2010, 10:23:27 pm
Then after a while you complain that I'm ignoring you, which prompts you to fling an actual attack, and we repeat.
Post by: Eduren on March 15, 2010, 10:25:48 pm
Speaking of which, EDUREN. Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!A wise man once told me to not ask that question without first revealing your own suspicions.(Hint: You).
But for my suspicions I'm going to look to yesterday. I still think that Diakron was acting too scummy and that people are just ignoring him. As for you, something has changed. Yesterday you were defensive and un-aggressive, but today you start by pushing me; and nothing else. You are faking aggression!
Toonyman
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 10:29:08 pm
My suspicions are Webadict and you.
Also, thanks for showing up. I feel a lack of people here...
I blame stupid mafia fights that end up with Webadict showing his ANGER.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 15, 2010, 10:29:49 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on March 15, 2010, 11:09:11 pm
I'm not sure if you realize this, but I'm sort of in the middle of voting you. It'd look quite odd if I were to drop my vote on you to join in on the Dakarian wagon.
So you're deciding on who to vote for based on how others see you? Good to know. What else have you done just to look more 'town'?
Yes, because I care oh so much about how I look, I won't do things like unvote my current lynch target and make what appears to be an OMGUS, now will I? OH SHIT
QuoteAnyways, no more of that until the next paragraph. Dakarian, that may explain why you backed off of Webadict, but then that leaves the small problem of why you voted Webadict to begin with. I know this doesn't sound like enough to vote a person, but trust me. Dakarian, go ahead, answer this. Maybe your scummy self can surprise me.
As said before, before I have a target, my vote goes where my question goes. Unlike you, I'm more concerned about keeping pressure and getting my questions answered than 'looking good'.
You're telling me that you had no suspicions at the beginning of Day 2. In fact, you seemed to have had no suspicions, thoughts, questions, comments, lynch targets, or anything at all to say. Well, except you decided to rolefish Webadict. So why on Earth would you rolefish a guy you think isn't scum and has a high probability of being a town power role? That's retarded beyond measure. Rolefishing is bad, kids.
QuoteNotice the veiled threat? I don't understand, did he seriously think I would just up and disappear on him? Actually, that may not of been such a bad assumption. I happen to know for a fact that lurking is a good way to get Dakarian to unvote you. Oops, I let the cat out of the bag!
Not exactly good evidence on why I'm scum there, stating that I pull back against lurkers. In fact, it sounds more like a personal attack against my style than an actual attempt to find out if I'm scum.
Of course, that wouldn't be bad except that you plopped that 3rd vote on me. Now, since you dislike me pressure voting, I'm assuming that you aren't just voting me just to answer a question, since that would be hypocritical.
So instead of showing how much you dislike how I play and throwing a WOT to talk to someone you aren't even voting on, you can explain just why I'm scum and need to be lynched right now, correct?
You can try to lurk if you wish since you think so much on how to get me to stop voting for you. After I ask the host to send a formal prod on you, I promise to drop my vote until you return.
No, you don't seem to understand. If I were to literally lurk (and PM to the mod that I'm here but not posting) you would never bother me. Well, maybe not in this game, sure, but if I did that from the beginning of the game, you'd forget about me. Well, ok, maybe not me, but I've seen you never bother Archangel, Diakron, or several other people for entire games.
Post by: tehstefan on March 15, 2010, 11:14:52 pm
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2010, 12:01:23 am
That's the problem. You fling an attack. I snap it in half. You go back to 1 liners with no content to answer.You didn't snap anything in half. You made lame excuses.
Then after a while you complain that I'm ignoring you, which prompts you to fling an actual attack, and we repeat.
But, if you think you're in the lead, you're incredibly wrong.
I already told you: I'm a COP! You're SCUM! 2 and 2 not making sense to you yet? :)
Maybe it's starting to fall into place for you now. Unless you believe you've still got an argument to snap in half.
Post by: Eduren on March 16, 2010, 01:09:56 am
Also I can't help but say OMGUSOh I wished you would.
See, you're the one that is OMGUSing. At the end of Day 1 you were my suspect and that never changed. The vote you placed on me was the OMGUS, and mine was a continuation.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2010, 07:38:48 am
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Dakarian [3]: Webadict, Jokerman-EXE, Mr.Person
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: ToonyMan
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Mr.Person [2]: Dakarian, SirBayer
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [1]: Eduren
tehstefan [1]: Diakron
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [1]: CobaltKobold
11 alive, 6 to hammer
Post by: Diakron on March 16, 2010, 11:44:21 am
Okay. I would also like to point out I agree with Eduren, that Diakron isn't getting pushed enough. He has a legitimate reason for some things, if he really is on mood stabilizers, but he still hasn't addressed much else, and merely sidelined, basically saying he'd let other people go at it while he watched. I really find that suspcicious, and as such, I'm continuing my Day one Vote on him. Diakron I want some seriously good reasons for your actions, not just some sidelining.
You see this would work much better if:
A) You weren't doing the same
B) i hadn't just gotten over a cold
and C) wasn't insinuating that i am being untruthful, I always believe in Death Before Dishonor, meaning i DON'T tell lies.
Eduren you jumping around like water on a hot grill is starting to get on my nerves. i always get these feelings about who's scum and it's definitely saying you are scum.
Post by: SirBayer on March 16, 2010, 11:46:14 am
HAVE YELLOW HAIR.
Sold.
So, uh, you go Super Saiyan?
Caution SirBayer.
That's why people think not voting to kill is scummy. You can't just be like, "I'm going to place my vote on this dude and back off if he's not my type." You vote someone and ATTACK them. See Webadict's top post for this page (Que people bragging they don't use the default posts per page junk). Leaving a vote on someone and WAITING does NOTHING.
Speaking of which, EDUREN. Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!
See, Toony, I attack. That's kind of what I do when I pressure vote, y'know?
Spoiler: MrPerson (click to show/hide)
Unvote Mr. Person.
Toonyman. Toonyman, Toonyman, Toonyman.
Im still very concerned by that sudden jump-vote yesterday, later on. Im very concerned by your lack of significant content or accusations. Im very concerned by you, in general.
So. Lets see you actually detail your suspicions. Not just tell us who. Go back. Do some work. Put some time in. Bring us evidence. Bring us posts.
Post by: Diakron on March 16, 2010, 11:58:15 am
did you just show a lot of reasons to still be voting Mr. P and then unvote??
what in hell's name is wrong with you?
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2010, 12:52:33 pm
Okay, let's ignore the Cop.
Post by: Mr.Person on March 16, 2010, 12:56:37 pm
whoa slow down!
did you just show a lot of reasons to still be voting Mr. P and then unvote??
what in hell's name is wrong with you?
Sidelining. I'm voting you tomorrow.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 16, 2010, 01:38:03 pm
Also I can't help but say OMGUSOh I wished you would.
See, you're the one that is OMGUSing. At the end of Day 1 you were my suspect and that never changed. The vote you placed on me was the OMGUS, and mine was a continuation.
Words mean shit if you don't vote them, this whole "I had suspicions of you from the beginning!!" is crap. Doesn't matter if you voted me earlier even for said suspicions! That's basing your whole attack from history YOU created.
HAVE YELLOW HAIR.
Sold.
So, uh, you go Super Saiyan?Caution SirBayer.
That's why people think not voting to kill is scummy. You can't just be like, "I'm going to place my vote on this dude and back off if he's not my type." You vote someone and ATTACK them. See Webadict's top post for this page (Que people bragging they don't use the default posts per page junk). Leaving a vote on someone and WAITING does NOTHING.
Speaking of which, EDUREN. Where are you and who are your suspicions right now!
See, Toony, I attack. That's kind of what I do when I pressure vote, y'know?Spoiler: MrPerson (click to show/hide)
Unvote Mr. Person.
Toonyman. Toonyman, Toonyman, Toonyman.
Im still very concerned by that sudden jump-vote yesterday, later on. Im very concerned by your lack of significant content or accusations. Im very concerned by you, in general.
So. Lets see you actually detail your suspicions. Not just tell us who. Go back. Do some work. Put some time in. Bring us evidence. Bring us posts.
Do you know how I work? I rarely go back if ever. I do my attacks from present points of time. When did I suddenly vote-jump? Where is my lack of content (I just did some Blazblue talk with Pandarsenic if that's what you mean), what am I doing wrong in general?
Stop vote-hopping scum.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 16, 2010, 02:25:15 pm
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Dakarian [3]: Webadict, Jokerman-EXE, Mr.Person
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [2]: ToonyMan, Diakron
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Mr.Person [1]: Dakarian
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [2]: Eduren, SirBayer
tehstefan [1]: Diakron
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [1]: CobaltKobold
11 alive, 6 to hammer
Post by: webadict on March 16, 2010, 09:31:47 pm
I'M A COP!
Post by: tehstefan on March 16, 2010, 11:40:27 pm
One, I'm not sidelining at all. I voted you, I intend to push you until i get some serious responses. Your baseless accusation I was doing the same thing is meritless unless you point it out. Your B and C responses as well aren't verifiable, and while I do believe that you are telling the truth, I can't be sure. So, I'd like some serious responses please. Why not elaborate on how he's jumping around?
As for Web, so your a cop eh? Why not claim your role entirely, considering you know, that you've already claimed cop. We would at least be able to probably get someone to verify it.
Post by: webadict on March 17, 2010, 12:07:55 am
Diakron, you didn't address my points.... I already did!
One, I'm not sidelining at all. I voted you, I intend to push you until i get some serious responses. Your baseless accusation I was doing the same thing is meritless unless you point it out. Your B and C responses as well aren't verifiable, and while I do believe that you are telling the truth, I can't be sure. So, I'd like some serious responses please. Why not elaborate on how he's jumping around?
As for Web, so your a cop eh? Why not claim your role entirely, considering you know, that you've already claimed cop. We would at least be able to probably get someone to verify it.
YESTERDAY! I'm Petherbridge! I can Investigate, Roleblock, or Voteblock.
Oh, and tomorrow will find even more scum! Thanks whoever it was!
Post by: tehstefan on March 17, 2010, 04:16:20 am
I'm inclined to believe Web is what he says he is, and well, it'd be foolish to not listen to a cop. Besides, if your not scum, web's a liar and likely scum himself.
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 17, 2010, 08:54:04 am
un'ote Web, 'ote Dakarian then.... Roleblocker of cops?Let's vote dakarian!Something happen?same text appears on Nirur. Therefore neither could be boosted.How was he boosted?QuoteLeafsnail
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Something feels off. Petherbridges as Cop Roleblocker? One is a 9th-d at judo, one is an Adelaide landowner, one is a footballer.
Also, webadict, what do you mean by cop roleblocker? roleblocker-of-cops?
Are you really trying to stretch that? Like, you HAVE to stretch that in order to get that. It's Cop/Roleblocker.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 17, 2010, 10:41:56 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 17, 2010, 11:54:55 am
Because We Can Can Can
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Dakarian [3]: Webadict, Jokerman-EXE, Mr.Person
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: ToonyMan
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Mr.Person [2]: Dakarian, SirBayer
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [1]: Eduren
tehstefan [1]: Diakron
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [1]: CobaltKobold
11 alive, 6 to hammer
Oh, hey, guys?
Remember this vote count? At 5:38 Tuesday?
That should've been when the day ended. I just, er, had forgotten what day of the week it was. <_<;
"Hell with this!" Webadict yells. He screams obscenities until Jokerman-EXE and Mr.Person hold Dakarian down. He then proceeds to punch Dakarian's face so hard it cracks.
...
Cracks?
Dakarian has fulfilled his win condition.
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Dakarian- Jester, WAO!! (album)
OH GOD THE ENGRISH MAKE IT GO AWAY. You are an album by a J-ska band. And guess what, YOU'RE A GODDAMN SLEEPING GOD BECAUSE I HAVE AN IRRATIONAL LOVE FOR INCLUSION OF SLEEPING GODS! Check your wikipedia article for the tracklist, which is your list of abilities. Oh, and because random.org gave you a "third party" draw, you're a Jester. Being responsible for those damn rules should make it easier for you to get lynched, though. Good luck!
You win when you are lynched.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
OH GOD DAMN IT
Night ends Thursday, 9 PM
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 19, 2010, 01:14:27 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 21, 2010, 04:06:54 pm
I'll be visiting a relative in the hospital today and may try to squeeze an update in between the end of that and the start of the next thing in my schedule.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 26, 2010, 03:12:16 am
You awaken to find no sign of Mr.Person, save for a living space with residue of poisonous gasses all over the inside and a pile of half-eaten rabbit-things...?
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Mr.Person - Townie, Rayman Ravings Rabbids TV Party
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA the chaos and confusion you cause allow you to redirect DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA any player to any player DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA but you can't target yourself.
You win when all scum are DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (dead).
This player did not know his boosted ability
Your Face, and by your face I mean your votes
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Vector [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
9 alive, 5 to hammer
Knife and Fork rule has ended.
Godhead Petherbridge has attempted to roleblock Mr.Person, voteblock tehstefan, and investigate SirBayer, but was curiously DELAYed.
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 09:27:12 am
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 10:56:20 am
Tehstefan, remind me of what points you wanted adress again please.
Toonyman Stop being so tempting to vote
and does anyone have a clue when the Knife and fork rule went into effect???
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 10:58:49 am
Nice WA, we come back after a week and all you say is 4 word.Really?
Tehstefan, remind me of what points you wanted adress again please.
Toonyman Stop being so tempting to vote
and does anyone have a clue when the Knife and fork rule went into effect???
Explain to me how that DOES NOT prove my role?
Post by: SirBayer on March 26, 2010, 12:21:05 pm
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 26, 2010, 12:34:10 pm
What's Knife and Fork?
Webby, I thought we agreed that if he wasn't scum we would lynch you. And he wasn't scum. I'm not saying I want to or anything, just that I thought that was the agreement. I do think you've proven your role and that killing you at this point will be like a DERP waste.
I'll do some analysis and have a vote later on tonight.
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 12:36:43 pm
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 01:00:34 pm
Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.Because I was Boosted Night 1.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
Web: i'm just saying that 4 words is kinda small for the first post of someone who finally proves their roleNot when those roles are, "I told you so."
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 26, 2010, 03:49:16 pm
It's weird, dude. You were pressing Mr.Person, then he switched his vote, right?
On that note, unvote SirBayer and vote Dakarian.
Then you conveniently moved yours as well (this being your very next action after his post):
Unvote Mr. Person.
Toonyman. Toonyman, Toonyman, Toonyman.
Maybe you had a reason, but it seems to me that that's a shifty little move there. Especially when Mr.Person turns up dead and you can claim that you had switched. Care to explain?
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 03:58:44 pm
Web: i'm just saying that 4 words is kinda small for the first post of someone who finally proves their roleNot when those roles are, "I told you so."
My role is proven.
That doesn't match up but i digress
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 26, 2010, 04:10:08 pm
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 26, 2010, 04:12:58 pm
Post by: Vector on March 26, 2010, 04:14:06 pm
Darkness3313 has replaced Vector.
Oh, hey! I was just thinking about replacing back in for myself. I'm glad to see that you got someone =)
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 26, 2010, 04:17:09 pm
Post by: Vector on March 26, 2010, 04:18:25 pm
Sorru Vector. :c
GAH DON'T APOLOGIZE
I'm trying to say I'm happy. HAPPY ;D
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 26, 2010, 04:18:50 pm
I AM THE FUN POLICE
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 04:20:50 pm
I meant to say words, but I said role instead.Web: i'm just saying that 4 words is kinda small for the first post of someone who finally proves their roleNot when those roles are, "I told you so."My role is proven.
That doesn't match up but i digress
Diakron. Now, if you feel that I am some sort of scum/third party, feel free to talk now. Anyone?
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 04:23:40 pm
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 04:24:11 pm
Lol did someone get their fillings hurt?Yeah, I guess you must have dug too deep.
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 26, 2010, 04:56:40 pm
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 05:41:04 pm
Well that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 06:21:44 pm
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 26, 2010, 06:32:37 pm
Well that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Well like Diakron said, can you reference to anything they said that makes them sound scummy or are you going by Gut?
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 07:08:23 pm
You don't know me very well...Well that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Well like Diakron said, can you reference to anything they said that makes them sound scummy or are you going by Gut?
Like I said, scummy.
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 26, 2010, 07:15:42 pm
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You don't know me very well...
Like I said, scummy.
Obviously not considering I'm a new person here(not to Mafia however)
But hey information is information.
I don't see need to push you on this farther however.
Post by: webadict on March 26, 2010, 07:17:24 pm
I suppose if you want further information:QuoteYou don't know me very well...
Like I said, scummy.
Obviously not considering I'm a new person here(not to Mafia however)
But hey information is information.
I don't see need to push you on this farther however.
Tehstefan was a lurker.
SirBayer was really snooty.
Mr.Person was... Mr.Person.
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 26, 2010, 07:24:54 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 26, 2010, 07:57:08 pm
Nice WA, we come back after a week and all you say is 4 word.
Tehstefan, remind me of what points you wanted adress again please.
Toonyman Stop being so tempting to vote
and does anyone have a clue when the Knife and fork rule went into effect???
That's not a reason to vote someone.
Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
I think you're scum at the moment, I believe Webadict's claim. I have a great feeling you're scum right now Bayer.
So all that's happened today while I was away is two quick votes on me and a replacement? Tsk tsk tsk.
I say we lynch SirBayer or Diakron. They are both voting me for retarded reasons. Unless they actually want to vote me besides the "I don't like you" reason.
I don't have two votes either I'm just cool like that.
Post by: Org on March 26, 2010, 08:10:10 pm
WHUR IS IT
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 09:38:41 pm
It was just meant as a conversation starter anyways
Post by: ToonyMan on March 26, 2010, 09:46:50 pm
Unvote Toonyman
It was just meant as a conversation starter anyways
Back down and passivity? You can't take back what's been said.
Post by: Diakron on March 26, 2010, 10:20:45 pm
But i still say the vote meant nothing
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 27, 2010, 12:01:06 am
I say we lynch SirBayer or Diakron. They are both voting me for retarded reasons.*the eyebrow h's risen*
But we'll miss you!Sorru Vector. :c
GAH DON'T APOLOGIZE
I'm trying to say I'm happy. HAPPY ;D
NOTES UPD'TED
Post by: webadict on March 27, 2010, 08:35:08 pm
Post by: SirBayer on March 27, 2010, 08:42:10 pm
Major review needed. I've forgotten all of my suspicions. :/
What's Knife and Fork?
Webby, I thought we agreed that if he wasn't scum we would lynch you. And he wasn't scum. I'm not saying I want to or anything, just that I thought that was the agreement. I do think you've proven your role and that killing you at this point will be like a DERP waste.
I'll do some analysis and have a vote later on tonight.
Oh, so you're lining up lynches?
Nice, scumbucket.
Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.Because I was Boosted Night 1.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
Okay.
SirBayBay.
It's weird, dude. You were pressing Mr.Person, then he switched his vote, right?
On that note, unvote SirBayer and vote Dakarian.
Then you conveniently moved yours as well (this being your very next action after his post):
Unvote Mr. Person.
Toonyman. Toonyman, Toonyman, Toonyman.
Maybe you had a reason, but it seems to me that that's a shifty little move there. Especially when Mr.Person turns up dead and you can claim that you had switched. Care to explain?
Ooh, okay. So you're not big into the post-reading thing either?
Yeah, there were a lot of reasons in that post. The primary thing was that my accusation was based on utter falsehoods, so I withdrew it. Simple.
Lol did someone get their fillings hurt?
Nice deflection.
Well that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Well like Diakron said, can you reference to anything they said that makes them sound scummy or are you going by Gut?
well can you explain your choices in detail
Oh, okay, so you're associated.
Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
I think you're scum at the moment, I believe Webadict's claim. I have a great feeling you're scum right now Bayer.
Oh, okay, you think I'm scum because I didn't just buy his claim right away? Gee, just blindly trusting Webadict seems like a genius idea!
Quote from: Toonyman
So all that's happened today while I was away is two quick votes on me and a replacement? Tsk tsk tsk.
I say we lynch SirBayer or Diakron. They are both voting me for retarded reasons. Unless they actually want to vote me besides the "I don't like you" reason.
I don't have two votes either I'm just cool like that.
Oh, my mistake. You're voting me because you don't like that I'm voting you.
No, that isn't a legitimate way to vote. No, that isn't a legitimate reason to vote. No, that's not legitimate scumhunting.
If you're not scum, maybe try scumhunting? But you won't, because you are.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 27, 2010, 08:55:59 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 02:27:07 am
He's scum anyway. He buddied up to me yesterday and made a weak push on a lurker. He then jumped off pretty easily. I could forgive this if he continued pushing people today, but he isn't.
EDIT: Argh, he hasn't even been on the forum in days. :/
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2010, 02:41:40 am
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 08:45:09 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 11:20:41 am
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 02:02:56 pm
And then no response. You do know you have to vote people and then explain actually why right?Yeah, I don't understand Eduren either.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 04:17:50 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 28, 2010, 04:20:09 pm
Unvote SirBayer.
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 04:24:15 pm
Anyway, unvote tehstefan I'll talk to him when he shows up.
But for now, lets talk to the scum that is here. Toony my man. This reeks of passivity.
You don't actually push them, you don't ask questions, and you don't seem to care which one is lynched.Nice WA, we come back after a week and all you say is 4 word.
Tehstefan, remind me of what points you wanted adress again please.
Toonyman Stop being so tempting to vote
and does anyone have a clue when the Knife and fork rule went into effect???
That's not a reason to vote someone.Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
I think you're scum at the moment, I believe Webadict's claim. I have a great feeling you're scum right now Bayer.
So all that's happened today while I was away is two quick votes on me and a replacement? Tsk tsk tsk.
I say we lynch SirBayer or Diakron. They are both voting me for retarded reasons. Unless they actually want to vote me besides the "I don't like you" reason.
I don't have two votes either I'm just cool like that.
Which one is more likely to be scum and why?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 04:26:51 pm
I don't want to cause vote counter confusion.
Now Eduren, you are voting me too? You are voting me why?
What the hell are people just voting me.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 04:30:05 pm
This is most curious for SirBayer and Diakron, who completely blew me off. This is what I'm doing right now. Stupid lurkers.
Eduren happens to be here right now though, you claim passivity, but you are just quoting me, that means nothing bandwagon scum.
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 04:33:47 pm
But wait, so everybody voting you is either stupid or bandwagoning?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
I
m voting SirBayer because he'sa scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 04:36:38 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 28, 2010, 05:26:08 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 05:32:36 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 05:34:14 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 28, 2010, 05:41:05 pm
You're doing an awful lot of complaining and I don't see why. This isn't what I've seen before. There's also the fact that SirBayer accused you of OMGUS, and it seems to me that you're wagoning with WA so far today. You're also not reading posts, because Eduren told you why he was voting you very clearly, then you asked him why he was voting you. He told you again, then asked a question that you promptly ignored.
Explain, scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 05:42:18 pm
Post by: tehstefan on March 28, 2010, 06:23:37 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 28, 2010, 06:44:26 pm
But wait, so everybody voting you is either stupid or bandwagoning?
Look, it even ends in a question mark!
Dude, what is up with you today?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 06:46:13 pm
I thought I answered that anyway. Pretty crazy how people are voting me and asking me to answer questions and then proceed to IGNORE ME.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 28, 2010, 06:55:41 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 06:57:03 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 06:58:20 pm
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 10:03:07 pm
I'm voting you because you are scum. You have been consistently scummy throughout this game.Unvote. Eduren. Just... Eduren.
But wait, so everybody voting you is either stupid or bandwagoning?
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 28, 2010, 10:34:08 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 10:34:53 pm
Yes?I'm voting you because you are scum. You have been consistently scummy throughout this game.Unvote. Eduren. Just... Eduren.
But wait, so everybody voting you is either stupid or bandwagoning?
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 11:01:51 pm
You're scum.Yes?I'm voting you because you are scum. You have been consistently scummy throughout this game.Unvote. Eduren. Just... Eduren.
But wait, so everybody voting you is either stupid or bandwagoning?
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 11:07:30 pm
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 11:08:42 pm
Reasons?I found your Italian-to-English dictionary in your room.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 28, 2010, 11:10:03 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 28, 2010, 11:16:48 pm
Just holding it for a friend.Reasons?I found your Italian-to-English dictionary in your room.
But seriously, whats up?
Post by: webadict on March 28, 2010, 11:23:37 pm
I dunno. I wanted to see what's up with you.Just holding it for a friend.Reasons?I found your Italian-to-English dictionary in your room.
But seriously, whats up?
Post by: CobaltKobold on March 29, 2010, 05:07:18 am
Warning: N2, my A key w's nightkilled.requesting repl'cement
It's just too difficult to m'ke myself understood now, 'nd my 'ttention is being used elsewhere...m'fi' just isn't so fun 's to m'ke it worth the effort.
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 29, 2010, 11:28:10 am
Post by: ToonyMan on March 29, 2010, 01:28:27 pm
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2010, 03:43:25 pm
Dead town is dead.It'll get better tomorrow, right?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 29, 2010, 03:45:57 pm
Dead town is dead.It'll get better tomorrow, right?
Tomorrow is deadline.
EXTENSION.
Post by: webadict on March 29, 2010, 04:01:02 pm
But I'll have two inspections!Dead town is dead.It'll get better tomorrow, right?
Tomorrow is deadline.
EXTENSION.
Post by: Eduren on March 29, 2010, 04:53:25 pm
On the other, this silence is killing us either way.
Extension
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on March 29, 2010, 11:53:10 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2010, 12:48:41 am
Post by: SirBayer on March 30, 2010, 12:33:01 pm
Why are you voting me?
...you say, after the entire fucking post where I justify my vote?
You're just blowing me off, the same as you accuse me of doing - WHEN I'M NOT AROUND.
And then no response. You do know you have to vote people and then explain actually why right?
You know how many people actually have things to do with their time that aren't dealing with idiots who won't read posts?
Geez, Toony, you've done nothing in my mind but cement it. Look at you! You're whining all over the place about how we're "ignoring" you, but then you ask me for reasons THE POST AFTER I EXPLAIN WHY I'M VOTING YOU.
No, you're not that stupid, Toony. You're just scum.
Go ahead and die now, please.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 30, 2010, 01:51:06 pm
That's what I see. Why is that a reason to die? I'm not a stone-cold face person.
And
WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 30, 2010, 01:53:21 pm
God damn you town lurkers that don't feel the need to post.
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 30, 2010, 02:57:43 pm
Quote
Well that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Well like Diakron said, can you reference to anything they said that makes them sound scummy or are you going by Gut?well can you explain your choices in detail
Oh, okay, so you're associated.
How does asking for infomation that could give us leads and help us make us Associated? Someone asked a question I was going to ask, how does that make us associated. Think about your case before you say it.
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 30, 2010, 02:58:42 pm
God damn you scum lurkers that put votes on me and walk away.
God damn you town lurkers that don't feel the need to post.
God damn you scum lurkers that put votes on me and walk away.
God damn you town lurkers that don't feel the need to post.
God damn you Town/scum Lurkers that actually aren't Around at the time you wish to hear words?
Post by: ToonyMan on March 30, 2010, 02:59:56 pm
Post by: tehstefan on March 30, 2010, 05:33:41 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on March 30, 2010, 05:42:07 pm
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: Webadict
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [1]: ToonyMan
ToonyMan [3]: SirBayer, Eduren, Jokerman-EXE
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
9 alive, 5 to hammer
Post by: tehstefan on March 30, 2010, 11:18:08 pm
Diakron I really do think you are scum. I've stated my reasons over and over, so I don't believe I need to refresh them.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 31, 2010, 12:14:23 pm
Well, once again I will return to my original vote.
Diakron I really do think you are scum. I've stated my reasons over and over, so I don't believe I need to refresh them.
I agree with you there. At least Unvote SirBayer and Eduren did more with their vote then a, you-intimate-date-me and then DISAPPEAR.
Vote Diakron.
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2010, 12:49:48 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on March 31, 2010, 12:50:58 pm
Actually, we should probably not lynch today. We will lose unless tehstefan is scum. Or we lynch tehstefan.
Explain more.
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2010, 12:52:32 pm
I'm removing his vote tomorrow. Therefore, he can't vote, and there'll be 7 people alive, 3 of whom are scum.Actually, we should probably not lynch today. We will lose unless tehstefan is scum. Or we lynch tehstefan.
Explain more.
Bad things happen. So, tehstefan.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 31, 2010, 01:01:09 pm
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2010, 01:05:47 pm
If we lynch him today you wouldn't be able to remove his vote.... Yes, that is the point.
Post by: ToonyMan on March 31, 2010, 01:17:41 pm
If we lynch him today you wouldn't be able to remove his vote.... Yes, that is the point.
You can't stop yourself from removing his vote?
Post by: Darkness3313 on March 31, 2010, 04:57:28 pm
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Explain more.I'm removing his vote tomorrow. Therefore, he can't vote, and there'll be 7 people alive, 3 of whom are scum.
Bad things happen. So, tehstefan.
[/quote]
Considering the start of the day, I assume the Mafia has a role blocker, so unless we have a Doctor(Who shouldn't claim but just protect you) Because either way the Maf will roleblock or kill you.
So I'm still not sure how we should go.
Post by: tehstefan on March 31, 2010, 08:09:21 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 31, 2010, 08:14:00 pm
You know, I can do something about the deaths. Just saying. You don't have to lynch me, because I can stop all night kills.Can we get a full claim instead of this crap?
Post by: tehstefan on March 31, 2010, 08:18:16 pm
In any case, I'm Casualty Prediction, I get to stop all night kills. Which would leave us with 8 players. I also get the maximum amount of people that can die each night.
Post by: Eduren on March 31, 2010, 08:20:22 pm
Eduren, I would watch it.Or you'll kill me tonight?
Post by: tehstefan on March 31, 2010, 08:32:07 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 31, 2010, 08:36:36 pm
Eduren, your pushy, and seem to be ignoring other people. You accused me baselessly, and seem to not really care much about actually finding scum. If I wasn't sure Diakron was scum, I would be voting you right now.Whats wrong with pushy?
tehstefan, why am I suddenly scum?
Post by: tehstefan on March 31, 2010, 08:47:40 pm
Post by: Eduren on March 31, 2010, 08:58:19 pm
Nothing is wrong with pushy. What's wrong however, is when you say I'm wishy washy. I explained quite clearly how you were wrong on all counts, as if you weren't really concerned with the game. That's what tips me off. Not only that, but you jumped on my Diakron vote, while blaming me for voting an easy lurker!Wait, what are you accusing me of?
First: Where did I call you wishy washy? Second: I never said that you were voting for an easy lurker. Third: Please explain how I lack concern.
You are scum twisting my words.
Post by: webadict on March 31, 2010, 09:16:56 pm
Eduren, I would watch it.Well, since there's no reason NOT to believe you, I too shall vote Eduren, the freak-out scum.
In any case, I'm Casualty Prediction, I get to stop all night kills. Which would leave us with 8 players. I also get the maximum amount of people that can die each night.
Post by: Eduren on April 01, 2010, 12:52:00 am
Post by: tehstefan on April 01, 2010, 01:53:41 am
Is tehstefan here?
He's scum anyway. He buddied up to me yesterday and made a weak push on a lurker. He then jumped off pretty easily. I could forgive this if he continued pushing people today, but he isn't.
You said I buddied up to you. Then made a weak push on a lurker? However, as I said, I was voting for him first. Second of all, I only relented when, gasp, someone said they had an investigative role! I'm pretty sure your own words say it clear for you. As for how you lack concern, Its quite easy. You made this push, yet never even mentioned my rebuttal. Not a "Oh, interesting," Or a "I don't believe you." No, you just dropped it completely. Seems...suspicious.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 03, 2010, 05:39:43 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 03, 2010, 06:14:27 pm
Post by: SirBayer on April 04, 2010, 11:37:35 am
In your previous post all I see is that you say I'm whiny.
That's what I see. Why is that a reason to die? I'm not a stone-cold face person.
And
WHERE THE HELL IS EVERYONE.
God damn you scum lurkers that put votes on me and walk away.
God damn you town lurkers that don't feel the need to post.
Continuing to ignore the rather blatant points I made against you.
QuoteWell that was a fun ride of randomness, now anyway:Because I felt they were all scum.
webadict: Would you mind explaining your reasons for your choices of who to RoleBlock Voteblock and Investigate if there were any?
Well like Diakron said, can you reference to anything they said that makes them sound scummy or are you going by Gut?well can you explain your choices in detail
Oh, okay, so you're associated.
How does asking for infomation that could give us leads and help us make us Associated? Someone asked a question I was going to ask, how does that make us associated. Think about your case before you say it.
Think about my case? I know my case, you don't have to threaten me. You both ask the same question. At about the same time. Gee, that's not suspicious at all, I have no right to push you.
Also your change of name is extremely annoying, what was your name before?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 04, 2010, 11:46:12 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 05, 2010, 10:51:06 am
Also, current votecount?
Post by: SirBayer on April 05, 2010, 11:09:22 am
You're just blowing me off, the same as you accuse me of doing - WHEN I'M NOT AROUND.And then no response. You do know you have to vote people and then explain actually why right?
You know how many people actually have things to do with their time that aren't dealing with idiots who won't read posts?
Geez, Toony, you've done nothing in my mind but cement it. Look at you! You're whining all over the place about how we're "ignoring" you, but then you ask me for reasons THE POST AFTER I EXPLAIN WHY I'M VOTING YOU.
Or how about these?
Okay, Webby. I admit I was wrong and you were right.
Damn Jesters. I hate Jesters.
Toonyman. I'm not done with you. What do you think of this? What do you make of it? Who do you think is the scum as of this moment, oh player of the moment?
Webby: Why didn't you... do this night one?
I think you're scum at the moment, I believe Webadict's claim. I have a great feeling you're scum right now Bayer.
Oh, okay, you think I'm scum because I didn't just buy his claim right away? Gee, just blindly trusting Webadict seems like a genius idea!Quote from: ToonymanSo all that's happened today while I was away is two quick votes on me and a replacement? Tsk tsk tsk.
I say we lynch SirBayer or Diakron. They are both voting me for retarded reasons. Unless they actually want to vote me besides the "I don't like you" reason.
I don't have two votes either I'm just cool like that.
Oh, my mistake. You're voting me because you don't like that I'm voting you.
No, that isn't a legitimate way to vote. No, that isn't a legitimate reason to vote. No, that's not legitimate scumhunting.
If you're not scum, maybe try scumhunting? But you won't, because you are.
To which you reply:
Why are you voting me?
Just because I don't word them as direct assaults doesn't mean they aren't accusations, Toony, accusations you've purposefully failed to meet. You're dodging my questions and you're getting angry at me, trying to pretend to be stupid and misunderstanding. It's not working. You're scum.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 05, 2010, 01:50:54 pm
a. I can't.
b. I already have.
I'm no scum bro. Game be whack.
Post by: Darkness3313 on April 05, 2010, 03:05:31 pm
Also your change of name is extremely annoying, what was your name before?
Change of name?
I never changed my name?
I replaced in for somebody if thats what you mean.
Post by: SirBayer on April 05, 2010, 10:08:50 pm
None of those question I can answer because either
a. I can't.
b. I already have.
I'm no scum bro. Game be whack.
Yeah, like that's a defense. You haven't answered crap.
Darkness: Who'd you replace then? Why'd you only answer the convenient part?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 05, 2010, 10:09:47 pm
Post by: SirBayer on April 06, 2010, 11:32:08 am
Liar, you can't avoid it.
Okay, then, buddy, if your defense is so airtight, show me where it was.
Demonstrate to me one post that sufficiently defends anything I've accused you of and I'll let off you. But you won't, because you haven't, because you can't even defend yourself because you know you're scum.
I've forgotten the end of this joke but you're scum.
Post by: webadict on April 06, 2010, 01:01:08 pm
Post by: ToonyMan on April 06, 2010, 02:10:17 pm
Liar, you can't avoid it.
Okay, then, buddy, if your defense is so airtight, show me where it was.
Demonstrate to me one post that sufficiently defends anything I've accused you of and I'll let off you. But you won't, because you haven't, because you can't even defend yourself because you know you're scum.
I've forgotten the end of this joke but you're scum.
I'm no scum bro.
Post by: SirBayer on April 07, 2010, 01:29:24 pm
Webby, do you see this? Am I the only one who sees this?
Post by: ToonyMan on April 07, 2010, 02:03:31 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2010, 09:15:23 pm
DAY ENDS IN 3 HOURS AND 45 MINUTES
FUUUCKCKCKCKCK
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2010, 09:44:18 pm
I'M BAD AT DEADLINESI demand an extension until I see a vote count and adequate time to respond to said vote count.
DAY ENDS IN 3 HOURS AND 45 MINUTES
FUUUCKCKCKCKCK
Post by: ToonyMan on April 07, 2010, 09:49:54 pm
Post by: tehstefan on April 07, 2010, 10:03:04 pm
I've asked for a votecount quite a few times, it would be very nice.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 07, 2010, 10:08:41 pm
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [2]: tehstefan, ToonyMan
Eduren [1]: Webadict
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [1]:
ToonyMan [3]: SirBayer, Eduren, Jokerman-EXE
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
9 alive, 5 to hammer
Eduren failed to vote tehstefan and Webadict never switched from and back to Eduren, both due to unvoting not being present.
Post by: Eduren on April 07, 2010, 10:51:42 pm
My vote stays on Toony.
Post by: webadict on April 07, 2010, 11:20:37 pm
I'll then request a shortening.
Post by: Eduren on April 08, 2010, 12:42:41 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2010, 04:51:41 am
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [2]: tehstefan, ToonyMan
Eduren [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
ToonyMan [4]: SirBayer, Eduren, Jokerman-EXE, Webadict
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
9 alive, 5 to hammer
Who's dead and in the vote count? Also, Day 3 ends presently at 11 PM tomorrow because I decided ending it today wouldn't give you all enough time.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2010, 02:12:24 pm
My scum partners are SirBayer and tehstefan.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2010, 02:13:32 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 08, 2010, 04:24:20 pm
And I'm town so don't lynch me.
OK you GOT me GUYS this day is GOING long enouGH.Right. Shorten
My scum partners are SirBayer and tehstefan.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on April 08, 2010, 04:25:55 pm
Post by: SirBayer on April 08, 2010, 04:52:42 pm
Stop it.
Shorten.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2010, 05:08:50 pm
Extension.
Post by: ToonyMan on April 08, 2010, 05:09:39 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 08, 2010, 10:13:10 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 09, 2010, 05:45:10 pm
"YOU CAN'T STOP ME!" he roars. He begins to grow to enormous proportions! SirBayer, Eduren, Jokerman-EXE, and WUBA WUBA WUBA are forced to combine their powers, each of their smaller robots (waitwat) combining into SIRWUBAJOKEDURENTRON and beating him in an epic battle which is TOO
AMAZING
TO
DESCRIBE
Quote
ToonyMan - Mafia, Jan Inge Sørbø
You are a Norwegian philologist, author, and poet. You may read your poetry to someone, consuming their night. Their action will be delayed to the next night. You are also immune to being delayed.
You win when it is impossible for you to lose.
[Boost: You feel your voice... volume... increasing substantially. You can read your poetry to any number of people, roleblocking them, but everyone you block will recognize your voice the next day. You retain your delay ability.]
This mafioso is slain!
Night suddenly falls!
Night ends Monday at 11 PM.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 13, 2010, 09:14:47 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 04:37:54 am
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
7 alive, 4 to hammer
Godhead Petherbridge has successfully voteblocked tehstefan and inspected SirBayer. Godhead Petherbridge was unable to roleblock Mr.Person
Jokerman-EXE has disappeared entirely in the night! No sign of him remains!
All kill orders were aborted by mission control last night.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 15, 2010, 04:38:25 am
E: Okay, think I remembered everything.
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 05:34:13 am
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 07:38:13 am
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 07:38:53 am
Post by: tehstefan on April 15, 2010, 10:19:20 am
Every day before today, there was a possible 3 deaths. However, today, there was a possibility of 10 deaths. So, something's going on.
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 10:23:04 am
Every day before today, there was a possible 3 deaths. However, today, there was a possibility of 10 deaths. So, something's going on.10 last night? Or tonight?
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 10:36:54 am
Yeah. I can't vote today, but I did abort all kills, as stated. Now, uh, here's a interesting little fact.I inspected SirBayer, guys. He's a Serial Killer.
Every day before today, there was a possible 3 deaths. However, today, there was a possibility of 10 deaths. So, something's going on.
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 10:39:06 am
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 11:08:17 am
Fine. SirBayer, is what this man saying true?Really, Eduren? Really?
Post by: SirBayer on April 15, 2010, 11:22:50 am
I must be a goddamn SK Miller. It would be my luck...
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 11:32:27 am
No, it's not true.Incredi-scummy!
I must be a goddamn SK Miller. It would be my luck...
Fine. SirBayer, is what this man saying true?Of course what I say is true. You can friggin' see at the beginning of the Day I INSPECTED HIM.
Post by: tehstefan on April 15, 2010, 03:39:25 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 05:41:04 pm
Just messing around, calm down.Fine. SirBayer, is what this man saying true?Of course what I say is true. You can friggin' see at the beginning of the Day I INSPECTED HIM.
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:42:42 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 05:45:37 pm
Jokerman-EXE has disappeared entirely in the night! No sign of him remains!His name is crossed out in the first post, so I'm guessing that he isn't coming back.
Post by: webadict on April 15, 2010, 05:53:25 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:35:40 pm
I am Every Child (Film)
Every night I can depress someone enough that I roleblock them.
N1, I blocked Dakarian, N2, I blocked Diakron, and N3, I blocked Darkness.
Post by: SirBayer on April 15, 2010, 06:48:51 pm
On every third night, I get a superkill.
So it isn't Webadict (probably, but giving inspect to scum makes no sense), it's not me, and it's not Cobalt. It can't be Diakron, but it could be Eduren, Darkness, or tehstefan.
Eduren, why do you think tehstefan is a confirmed townie from being vote-blocked? Anybody could be vote-blocked, true? Are you buddying? Are you making an excuse for a scumbuddy?
Post by: Eduren on April 15, 2010, 06:51:51 pm
Eduren, why do you think tehstefan is a confirmed townie from being vote-blocked? Anybody could be vote-blocked, true? Are you buddying? Are you making an excuse for a scumbuddy?He claimed Casualty Prediction yesterday and seems to have used his power last night. It is a pretty pro-town power, so I'm willing to call him confirmed.
Post by: SirBayer on April 16, 2010, 11:18:52 am
Speaking of which, I don't see Darkness or tehstefan.
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 11:28:49 am
I like your motive but I'm still not entirely sure I agree. How can we confirm someone without absolute proof - which, need I remind you, we lack? I think it's a mistake to make any assumptions. There are a limited set of people who could be scum, and we have, what, two scum? There's a 2/3 chance here that you're the next scumbucket, and those are some darned good odds. Hell, even if I include myself (for those third-parties who don't necessarily believe me WEBADICT), that's a 1/2. Harsh scrutiny is in line.Go die, WIFOMer. Read the beginning of the Day's post.
Speaking of which, I don't see Darkness or tehstefan.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 11:32:19 am
Post by: Vector on April 16, 2010, 11:33:38 am
I'm prodding Darkness3313 and Diakron.
... If Darkness3313 needs a replacement, I'll be more than happy to serve >_>
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 16, 2010, 11:37:41 am
Post by: Eduren on April 16, 2010, 03:56:56 pm
I like your motive but I'm still not entirely sure I agree. How can we confirm someone without absolute proof - which, need I remind you, we lack? I think it's a mistake to make any assumptions. There are a limited set of people who could be scum, and we have, what, two scum? There's a 2/3 chance here that you're the next scumbucket, and those are some darned good odds. Hell, even if I include myself (for those third-parties who don't necessarily believe me WEBADICT), that's a 1/2. Harsh scrutiny is in line.Thats why I called him semi-confirmed; We don't have absolute proof.
Speaking of which, I don't see Darkness or tehstefan.
Lets say for a second that he is scum. That means his entire role is based around ONE piece of WIFOM. Since that doesn't seem too likely, I'm willing to call him townie.
Post by: SirBayer on April 16, 2010, 06:16:40 pm
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?
I like your motive but I'm still not entirely sure I agree. How can we confirm someone without absolute proof - which, need I remind you, we lack? I think it's a mistake to make any assumptions. There are a limited set of people who could be scum, and we have, what, two scum? There's a 2/3 chance here that you're the next scumbucket, and those are some darned good odds. Hell, even if I include myself (for those third-parties who don't necessarily believe me WEBADICT), that's a 1/2. Harsh scrutiny is in line.Go die, WIFOMer. Read the beginning of the Day's post.
Speaking of which, I don't see Darkness or tehstefan.
Have I done anything to warrant this treatment, Webby? Anything?
Post by: Eduren on April 16, 2010, 06:27:01 pm
Alright. Then let's assume for a second he's completely out of the picture, and we have two scum.I don't understand.
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?
Post by: webadict on April 16, 2010, 06:36:12 pm
Neither do I.Alright. Then let's assume for a second he's completely out of the picture, and we have two scum.I don't understand.
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?
Alright. Then let's assume for a second he's completely out of the picture, and we have two scum.You came up Serial Killer. That's worth something.
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?I like your motive but I'm still not entirely sure I agree. How can we confirm someone without absolute proof - which, need I remind you, we lack? I think it's a mistake to make any assumptions. There are a limited set of people who could be scum, and we have, what, two scum? There's a 2/3 chance here that you're the next scumbucket, and those are some darned good odds. Hell, even if I include myself (for those third-parties who don't necessarily believe me WEBADICT), that's a 1/2. Harsh scrutiny is in line.Go die, WIFOMer. Read the beginning of the Day's post.
Speaking of which, I don't see Darkness or tehstefan.
Have I done anything to warrant this treatment, Webby? Anything?
Post by: Darkness3313 on April 16, 2010, 06:43:01 pm
15854 Numa
As (Vector?) Hinted at, I have the ability to crash myself into another player to kill them and myself.
When I'm lynched, I can use my Asteroid powers to BOOST another player.
(I've been silent because I wasn't aware Day had started.)
(Also I'm not sure if we can quote our Role PM(Mostly because I need to reread the rules) But I won't just incase.
Also, Sirbayer Previously you said that you must be an SK Miller.
If I am reading that right, you claim to be an SK that gets a Guilty Result all the time, but the thing is, SKs come up as Guilty to cops(usually) so that means you make no claims of not being an SK?
Post by: SirBayer on April 17, 2010, 03:35:58 pm
Alright. Then let's assume for a second he's completely out of the picture, and we have two scum.I don't understand.
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?
Look at who could be scum.
Alive: Webadict - confirmed towncop thing.
SirBayer - well, I know I'm not scum.
Diakron - Unknown.
Eduren - Unknown.
Tehstefan - Probably confirmed?
Darkness - Unknown.
Cobalt - Not entirely sure.
Okay, so I miscalculated who was alive based on who I saw talking. Panda's default 13-player setup is three scum and one third party, and since we had one scum and I thought there were only two unknowns left, I figured we had 'em nailed down.
Not so clearly anymore.
Before I replaced in, my Predecessor actually claimed before as
15854 Numa
As (Vector?) Hinted at, I have the ability to crash myself into another player to kill them and myself.
When I'm lynched, I can use my Asteroid powers to BOOST another player.
(I've been silent because I wasn't aware Day had started.)
(Also I'm not sure if we can quote our Role PM(Mostly because I need to reread the rules) But I won't just incase.
Also, Sirbayer Previously you said that you must be an SK Miller.
If I am reading that right, you claim to be an SK that gets a Guilty Result all the time, but the thing is, SKs come up as Guilty to cops(usually) so that means you make no claims of not being an SK?
You... don't even know what a miller is, do you?
A Miller is a townie who turns up as something else to cops. So I'm a town-oriented player, but a cop inspect turns up SK.
Post by: Darkness3313 on April 17, 2010, 03:46:28 pm
Alright. Then let's assume for a second he's completely out of the picture, and we have two scum.I don't understand.
You are now confirmed scum.
Are you willing to take that risk for someone you consider a townie?
Look at who could be scum.
Alive: Webadict - confirmed towncop thing.
SirBayer - well, I know I'm not scum.
Diakron - Unknown.
Eduren - Unknown.
Tehstefan - Probably confirmed?
Darkness - Unknown.
Cobalt - Not entirely sure.
Okay, so I miscalculated who was alive based on who I saw talking. Panda's default 13-player setup is three scum and one third party, and since we had one scum and I thought there were only two unknowns left, I figured we had 'em nailed down.
Not so clearly anymore.Before I replaced in, my Predecessor actually claimed before as
15854 Numa
As (Vector?) Hinted at, I have the ability to crash myself into another player to kill them and myself.
When I'm lynched, I can use my Asteroid powers to BOOST another player.
(I've been silent because I wasn't aware Day had started.)
(Also I'm not sure if we can quote our Role PM(Mostly because I need to reread the rules) But I won't just incase.
Also, Sirbayer Previously you said that you must be an SK Miller.
If I am reading that right, you claim to be an SK that gets a Guilty Result all the time, but the thing is, SKs come up as Guilty to cops(usually) so that means you make no claims of not being an SK?
You... don't even know what a miller is, do you?
A Miller is a townie who turns up as something else to cops. So I'm a town-oriented player, but a cop inspect turns up SK.
I do know what a Miller is, and in games I've played, they got a Guilty result from a cop.
If thats not the same for this game then I suppose not.
(I was also a bit confused as I was trying to clear up what you meant by SK Miller.)
Post by: webadict on April 17, 2010, 04:11:32 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 05:12:28 pm
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: SirBayer
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [3]: WUBA WUBA WUBA, Eduren, Darkness3313
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
7 alive, 4 to hammer
Did I mention day ends at 11 PM Pacific Tuesday? Well, it does. Unless you hammer.
CobaltKobold still needs replacement; Diakron will go up for forced replacement at 11 PM Pacific tonight if he has not posted by then.
Post by: Eduren on April 17, 2010, 05:22:10 pm
Post by: Darkness3313 on April 17, 2010, 05:25:16 pm
He's lying, so it doesn't matter. I mean, he went straight for SK Miller.
I never said I believed him.
(Hence the fact that I didn't unvote.)
Has he claimed yet?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 17, 2010, 05:41:16 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 18, 2010, 01:56:09 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:09:49 pm
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 08:24:35 pm
Let's go.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:32:21 pm
Post by: Org on April 18, 2010, 08:33:20 pm
I NEVER GOT MY SPOILERED SEEING
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 08:34:33 pm
Post by: webadict on April 18, 2010, 09:35:27 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 18, 2010, 11:06:50 pm
Post by: SirBayer on April 19, 2010, 10:42:32 am
He's lying, so it doesn't matter. I mean, he went straight for SK Miller.
I never said I believed him.
(Hence the fact that I didn't unvote.)
Has he claimed yet?
Yes, I have.
You obviously haven't been paying attention.
And Webby, you got a better explanation? I know what the hell I am, but you pretty clearly don't.
Suspend.
Post by: webadict on April 19, 2010, 10:59:38 am
Everyone knows what I am, because it's at the beginning of the Day.He's lying, so it doesn't matter. I mean, he went straight for SK Miller.
I never said I believed him.
(Hence the fact that I didn't unvote.)
Has he claimed yet?
Yes, I have.
You obviously haven't been paying attention.
And Webby, you got a better explanation? I know what the hell I am, but you pretty clearly don't.
Suspend.
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 23, 2010, 12:11:23 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 27, 2010, 09:31:29 pm
Quote
Diakron - Mafia, Input Selection
You are a mathematical modelling and system identification term. Each night, you are told what actions are targeted on you. You may convert any of these actions into any other of the actions performed on you. i.e. You are naively investigated, protected, and killed. You can convert the kill and the protection into a naive investigation. This means you are effectively kill-immune as long as you are not only targeted by kills. If you are able to experience four BOOSTs simultaneously, you ascend to godhood and leave the game. This is a win for you that does not affect any other player.
You win when it is impossible for you to lose.
When BOOSTed, you gain this ability:
[Boost: You may, in place of taking a night action, lose only one of the BOOSTs applied to you (if you have two or more).]
Quote
CobaltKobold - Townie, Hai-Fu Power Station
You are a Japanese powerplant. Each night you may give POWER to any single targeted player. This player will have enough POWER to be BOOSTed for the following day and night, and gain a BOOSTed version of their role for that duration.
You win when all scum are dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power
A missing player from each side has fallen.
Current Votes. If you don't like them you have until 11 Wednesday to move them. Hammer-interrupt is disabled for today.
CobaltKobold [Z]:
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Diakron [Z]:
Eduren [1]: SirBayer
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
Leafsnail [Z]:
Nirur Torir [Z]:
SirBayer [3]: WUBA WUBA WUBA, Eduren, Darkness3313
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
5 alive, 3 to hammer
Deadline Wednesday at 11:30 pm Pacific time. Shortening requests will be accepted, lengthening will not.
Post by: webadict on April 27, 2010, 10:10:02 pm
Post by: Eduren on April 27, 2010, 10:16:25 pm
Who's dead and in the vote count?
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 27, 2010, 11:24:49 pm
You bastards never said who was dead and in the vote count. -.-
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Eduren [1]: SirBayer
SirBayer [3]: WUBA WUBA WUBA, Eduren, Darkness3313
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
5 alive, 3 to hammer
Deadline Wednesday at 11:30 pm Pacific time. Shortening requests will be accepted, lengthening will not.
Post by: webadict on April 28, 2010, 08:38:30 am
Post by: Eduren on April 28, 2010, 12:13:07 pm
Post by: webadict on April 28, 2010, 01:40:23 pm
Hrmm. Bay Bay hasn't been online to see the game has resumed. I say we give him the rest of the day to get on, rather than shorten.... Yeah, no. He's a Serial Killer.
Post by: Zai on April 28, 2010, 09:23:09 pm
You bastards never said who was dead and in the vote count. -.-I don't think they need to do that for someone who doesn't follow up on what they say they'll do anyway. (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/Branchalite/rolleyes.gif)
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 28, 2010, 09:26:44 pm
I decided not to allow full spoiled spectating and I never said I would initially, so shoo. <_<You bastards never said who was dead and in the vote count. -.-I don't think they need to do that for someone who doesn't follow up on what they say they'll do anyway. (http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l303/Branchalite/rolleyes.gif)
Post by: Pandarsenic on April 29, 2010, 07:45:16 pm
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Eduren [1]: SirBayer
SirBayer [3]: WUBA WUBA WUBA, Eduren, Darkness3313
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
5 alive, 3 to hammer
Deadline has passed.
You notice the sun descending; WUBA WUBA WUBA's frantic ranting grows more and more frenzied.
And at the end, WUBA WUBA WUBA shoves SirBayer in a microwave and cooks him. Well, that's one way to solve a problem.
Quote
SirBayer - Serial Killer, Young Love <DoomspeakerWhatever would be a thing that kills everyone else after X nights>
You are an album of terrible music. You are an abomination and on the third night, your music will begin to be played. And everyone will die.
You win when everyone besides you is dead.
This player did not know his BOOSTed power.
Night ends Friday at 11 PM.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 01, 2010, 01:19:40 am
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Eduren [Z]:
Jokerman-EXE [Z]:
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
5 alive, 3 to hammer
Deadline is 11 PM Tuesday, Pacific Tiemz.
Darkness3313 is up for replacement pending him proving he's still playing.
Post by: Eduren on May 01, 2010, 03:36:29 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 01, 2010, 04:17:40 am
Post by: webadict on May 01, 2010, 09:46:33 am
Post by: Vector on May 01, 2010, 12:48:53 pm
Darkness3313 is up for replacement pending him proving he's still playing.
I'll replace him. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Post by: Eduren on May 01, 2010, 02:09:29 pm
I blocked Eduren last Night.Oh, that was you?
I tried blocking Darkness.
Post by: webadict on May 01, 2010, 02:22:31 pm
Claim?I blocked Eduren last Night.Oh, that was you?
I tried blocking Darkness.
Post by: Eduren on May 01, 2010, 02:32:40 pm
Post by: webadict on May 01, 2010, 02:35:01 pm
Well, then you admit to being blocked when there was no kill and not being able to block. We can therefore assume you're scum on the premise that there's not really anything stopping people from dying besides me, right?
Post by: Eduren on May 01, 2010, 02:39:11 pm
Jokerman, can we get a claim?
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 01, 2010, 10:47:49 pm
Post by: tehstefan on May 01, 2010, 10:51:16 pm
Post by: Vector on May 02, 2010, 12:10:16 am
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 02, 2010, 07:32:37 pm
Not necessarily. Jokerman is our last scum. He was kidnapped(?) the night before last and seems to have just returned this morning. Maybe he was unable to perform the kill for those nights?
Jokerman, can we get a claim?
I got a random BOOSTed power that I had to use last night, or not at all. My "time travel watch" took me out of the game for one cycle and now I'm back.
I'm just as confused as you are.
tehstefan, even though your hunting on Diakron was rendered useless, what other suspicions do you have? Surely there are others.
Post by: Eduren on May 02, 2010, 07:57:06 pm
Do you have a role name?Not necessarily. Jokerman is our last scum. He was kidnapped(?) the night before last and seems to have just returned this morning. Maybe he was unable to perform the kill for those nights?
Jokerman, can we get a claim?
I got a random BOOSTed power that I had to use last night, or not at all. My "time travel watch" took me out of the game for one cycle and now I'm back.
I'm just as confused as you are.
tehstefan, even though your hunting on Diakron was rendered useless, what other suspicions do you have? Surely there are others.
We MC'd while you were gone, so now its your turn.
Post by: webadict on May 02, 2010, 10:10:23 pm
Stop voting tehstefan.Not necessarily. Jokerman is our last scum. He was kidnapped(?) the night before last and seems to have just returned this morning. Maybe he was unable to perform the kill for those nights?
Jokerman, can we get a claim?
I got a random BOOSTed power that I had to use last night, or not at all. My "time travel watch" took me out of the game for one cycle and now I'm back.
I'm just as confused as you are.
tehstefan, even though your hunting on Diakron was rendered useless, what other suspicions do you have? Surely there are others.
Post by: tehstefan on May 02, 2010, 11:34:14 pm
Out of all of them, I would have to say you seem the most fishy to me. Its just the feeling I've gotten about you during this game. I'm going to look back over the information to see if I can find any reason why I feel this way, but if I had to pick scum, it would be you right now. Still, I need more from Vector before I can honestly say anything, and Eduren, while not exactly scum, still needs looking at.
Post by: webadict on May 03, 2010, 08:54:54 am
So far my only concrete ideas are that one, Web is most likely town, I'm town, so that leaves you vector and Eduren.I blocked Eduren last Night and there was no kill. Since there isn't too much else it could be, other than Jokerman-EXE coming back (There's not much point to him leaving, but I can see some value in it), then there is only the two choices between Eduren and Jokerman-EXE, unless someone knows what else it could be?
Out of all of them, I would have to say you seem the most fishy to me. Its just the feeling I've gotten about you during this game. I'm going to look back over the information to see if I can find any reason why I feel this way, but if I had to pick scum, it would be you right now. Still, I need more from Vector before I can honestly say anything, and Eduren, while not exactly scum, still needs looking at.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 03, 2010, 10:16:52 am
I'm Anton Lubowski, the African political rights activist that was murdered a while back. Apparently I've been given another chance to find the scum that did it (thus my time travel BOOST watch).
WUBA, what do you do again? I got a little mixed up in there. You're a cop, right?
Post by: webadict on May 03, 2010, 10:43:47 am
Unvote tehstefan.You mean you're not paying attention to how I'm a Cop/Roleblocker/Voteblocker?
I'm Anton Lubowski, the African political rights activist that was murdered a while back. Apparently I've been given another chance to find the scum that did it (thus my time travel BOOST watch).
WUBA, what do you do again? I got a little mixed up in there. You're a cop, right?
And how does your role make sense?
Post by: Vector on May 03, 2010, 11:25:04 am
I blocked Eduren last Night and there was no kill. Since there isn't too much else it could be, other than Jokerman-EXE coming back (There's not much point to him leaving, but I can see some value in it), then there is only the two choices between Eduren and Jokerman-EXE, unless someone knows what else it could be?
Yeah, okay. I seem to remember Eduren being quite high on my list of suspects at the beginning of the game, and this doesn't make it any better.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 03, 2010, 11:52:11 am
After I BOOSTed, the thread died and I got my games all mixed up. Thanks for clarifying though.Unvote tehstefan.You mean you're not paying attention to how I'm a Cop/Roleblocker/Voteblocker?
I'm Anton Lubowski, the African political rights activist that was murdered a while back. Apparently I've been given another chance to find the scum that did it (thus my time travel BOOST watch).
WUBA, what do you do again? I got a little mixed up in there. You're a cop, right?
And how does your role make sense?
Dude, I don't know. It's not like I made the role OR picked it. You asked for a claim and I gave it.
Is tehstefan confirmed town?
Post by: webadict on May 03, 2010, 12:41:12 pm
tehstefan isn't CONFIRMED town, but he's more likely town than not.After I BOOSTed, the thread died and I got my games all mixed up. Thanks for clarifying though.Unvote tehstefan.You mean you're not paying attention to how I'm a Cop/Roleblocker/Voteblocker?
I'm Anton Lubowski, the African political rights activist that was murdered a while back. Apparently I've been given another chance to find the scum that did it (thus my time travel BOOST watch).
WUBA, what do you do again? I got a little mixed up in there. You're a cop, right?
And how does your role make sense?
Dude, I don't know. It's not like I made the role OR picked it. You asked for a claim and I gave it.
Is tehstefan confirmed town?
Post by: Eduren on May 03, 2010, 02:42:04 pm
Unvote tehstefan.So the BOOST was what made you disappear? Then, pray tell, what is your power without a BOOST?
I'm Anton Lubowski, the African political rights activist that was murdered a while back. Apparently I've been given another chance to find the scum that did it (thus my time travel BOOST watch).
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 03, 2010, 06:57:57 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 04:06:46 pm
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 04:23:25 pm
Okay, Jokerman is the only possible scum. I assure you guys that I am not scum. I was even a big participant in the Toony lynch.How is Jokerman the only possibility? Wouldn't, you know, there be that one other guy?
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 04:26:01 pm
From my point of view.Okay, Jokerman is the only possible scum. I assure you guys that I am not scum. I was even a big participant in the Toony lynch.How is Jokerman the only possibility? Wouldn't, you know, there be that one other guy?
Post by: webadict on May 04, 2010, 04:27:44 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 04, 2010, 05:00:04 pm
Okay, Jokerman is the only possible scum. I assure you guys that I am not scum. I was even a big participant in the Toony lynch.
I am not scum, Eduren, and this is the most pathetic defense I've ever seen. You're basically saying, "It has to be him, because I'm Town. I promise." And I don't buy that.
Eduren.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:39:44 pm
Darkness3313 [Z]:
Eduren [3]: Webadict, Vector, Jokerman-EXE
Jokerman-EXE [1]: Eduren
tehstefan [Z]:
Webadict [Z]:
5 alive, 3 to hammer
Deadline is 11 PM Tuesday, Pacific Tiemz.
STOP!
HAMMERTIME!
Webadict, Vector, and Jokerman-EXE look at each other and nod.
They look at tehstefan, who shrugs in response.
They grab baseball bats from a nearby rack and beat Eduren to death.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
The mafia has lost!
The town has won!
Jokerman-EXE, Survivor, has won!
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:40:58 pm
Spoiler: Roles (click to show/hide)
Spoiler: Actions (click to show/hide)
OH RIGHT
Mafia chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/JQiqGiJ8BNyj
Dead chat: http://www.quicktopic.com/44/H/yCDiDHPNgwn
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 10:43:41 pm
Sorry Toony.
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 10:48:29 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 10:50:29 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 11:08:33 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 04, 2010, 11:23:30 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 04, 2010, 11:29:32 pm
Well, it'd have been nice if I hadn't been forced to modkill him.
For Dakarian's reference, all problems should be listed in the first post, by the way.
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 07:19:14 am
Huh. I must be good.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 05, 2010, 11:29:33 am
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2010, 12:03:45 pm
So... I managed to save the Town from the Doomspeaker, block the Mafia, AND lynch the Jester?Technically tehstefan saved the town from the Doomspeaker, but you STILL would have if the Mafia hadn't gone nuts trying to block you.
Huh. I must be good.
Post by: RedWarrior0 on May 05, 2010, 02:15:16 pm
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2010, 02:17:06 pm
Next up: Mafia game Mafia. You are a random Mafia game from B12 or MS. You must find the fake games and kill them before they kill you. Dibs on B12 Mafia Players' Mafia.
Duuuuude :D
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 02:19:25 pm
Ha! I'm Vote Mafia! I have various vote related powers!Next up: Mafia game Mafia. You are a random Mafia game from B12 or MS. You must find the fake games and kill them before they kill you. Dibs on B12 Mafia Players' Mafia.
Duuuuude :D
Post by: tehstefan on May 05, 2010, 03:11:47 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 03:13:43 pm
Whooo! I managed to save us all from the doomspeaker!No kidding.
Post by: ToonyMan on May 05, 2010, 03:17:05 pm
Post by: Mr.Person on May 05, 2010, 03:20:33 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 03:39:23 pm
Since Webadict won't, I'll take King of the Mafia. I... umm... get to pick my own role? I dunno, lolCurses! I forgot about that!
Post by: Mr.Person on May 05, 2010, 04:33:41 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on May 05, 2010, 04:54:32 pm
Post by: Eduren on May 05, 2010, 05:00:25 pm
Post by: Zai on May 05, 2010, 05:02:05 pm
Post by: Vector on May 05, 2010, 05:03:50 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 05, 2010, 05:07:41 pm
My next game should be
Finally.... > Forum Games and Roleplaying > Mafia
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 05, 2010, 06:23:28 pm
Post by: Leafsnail on May 05, 2010, 06:34:14 pm
Post by: webadict on May 05, 2010, 06:35:07 pm
So... I won this one? I guess? Can't even remember.I think you were Town.
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 05, 2010, 06:40:48 pm
Post by: Jokerman-EXE on May 07, 2010, 11:52:40 am
If Casualty Prediction hadn't been activated, DoomBayer kills everyone, right? If I was time-traveling, I would have survived. What happens then?
Post by: webadict on May 07, 2010, 12:24:01 pm
Post by: Pandarsenic on May 07, 2010, 05:08:50 pm