Bay 12 Games Forum
Other Projects => Curses => Topic started by: jasonred79 on March 06, 2010, 11:23:49 pm
-
is this even possible? When you get Death Penalty at C++ and Gun Control at L++?
EEK. Watch the death squads club the liberals like baby seals!
-
I believe that is possible.
I think that only law enforcement and death penalty need to be C+ to get deathsquads.
-
You won't see it, though that issue combination is possible. Gun control doesn't affect the police or death squads, only security guards and other non-government folks.
-
Gun control doesn't affect the police or death squads...
Perhaps it should...
I mean, I can see from a difficulty standpoint if all enemies say no to guns and you and/or CCS are still marching around with AK's, but perhaps the LCS/CCS just using firearms should slowly turn Gun Control more conservative (to combat the rising tide in gun crimes as well as you're living proof that gun control doesn't work).
So as Liberal squads gain L or L+ or L++ gun control, they have to switch over to melee weapons or else use guns very conservatively (ha! I love puns!) or else risk undermining their own agenda.
On that note, perhaps committing crimes itself should influence law enforcement more conservatively. So once Law Enforcement hits L+ you need to hold back on the crimes or again risk undermining your own agenda.
This would be seperate from the current system of how depending on your spin, your actions will drive the public towards your cause or away from it. This suggestion would build on top of it, so if your'e alienating the masses AND using guns AND committing lots of crimes, gun control & law enforcement will swiftly swing conservative again.
To bounce off this idea, Free Speech should be undermined by the Guardian, especially with special editions (publishing national secrets publically would be a good reason to cap free speech from even a moderate's perspective).
Treason undermines military, Theft undermines business...I'm sure more "underminings" can be thought up.
What this would do is encourage a more "bell curve" approach then a linear progression. So early in the game you can get away with stealing, rampaging, shooting up the world to get your message across, but once it gets to end game and you're close but almost there, you should be encouraged to refine your actions.
So while shooting up cops, stealing everything in site and burning factories to the ground works well in C+ society, in an almost L+ society you'd be swinging things away from victory far more then you'd be heading towards it with those kinds of tactics.
-
While realistic, that injection of realism breaks the fundamental assumption behind LCS -- that somehow what the LCS does leads logically to society becoming more Liberal. It breaks the crime squad aspect by forcing the LCS to play nice toward the end. Since the violence, theft, special editions, and so on are probably the most fun aspects of the game, I don't want to do anything to punish them.