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Title: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: jasonred79 on March 19, 2010, 12:26:20 pm

All the way from 7 years old to... how old is the maximum age before you die? I assume the longest lived character would be a mutant with 20 health? ... can you get any characters younger than 7 years old? ... how do dogs and genetic monsters age?
I'm also interested in the effects of juice... Does age effect the "base" stats or is it a modifier? Does juice effect the base or the age modified figure?

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Innominate on March 19, 2010, 09:26:45 pm

The relevant section of code is in creature/creature.cpp (this is for 4.1.4, not the alpha):

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int Creature::get_attribute(int attribute, bool usejuice) const
{
   int ret=attributes[attribute].value;
   
   if(attribute==ATTRIBUTE_WISDOM && align!=ALIGN_CONSERVATIVE)usejuice=false;
   if(attribute==ATTRIBUTE_HEART  && align!=ALIGN_LIBERAL)usejuice=false;

   if(!usejuice) return ret;

   // Effects of juice on the character's attributes
   if(usejuice)
   {
      if(juice<=-50)ret=1; // Damn worthless
      else if(juice<=-10)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*0.6); // Society's dregs
      else if(juice<0)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*0.8);    // Punk
      else if(juice>=10)
      {
         if(juice<50)ret=static_cast<int>(ret+=1); // Activist
         else if(juice<100)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*1.1+2); // Socialist Threat
         else if(juice<200)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*1.2+3); // Revolutionary
         else if(juice<500)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*1.3+4); // Urban Guerrilla
         else if(juice<1000)ret=static_cast<int>(ret*1.4+5); // Liberal Guardian
         else ret=static_cast<int>(ret*1.5+6); // Elite Liberal
      }
   }

   // How disfigured does the character's face look?
   // This is important for Charisma
   long disfigs=0;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_TEETH]<TOOTHNUM)disfigs++;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_TEETH]<TOOTHNUM/2)disfigs++;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_TEETH]==0)disfigs++;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_RIGHTEYE]==0)disfigs+=2;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_LEFTEYE]==0)disfigs+=2;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_TONGUE]==0)disfigs+=3;
   if(special[SPECIALWOUND_NOSE]==0)disfigs+=3;

   // Does the character have both legs intact?
   // Even one leg?
   // Important for Agility
   int legok=2;
   if((wound[BODYPART_LEG_RIGHT] & WOUND_NASTYOFF)||
       (wound[BODYPART_LEG_RIGHT] & WOUND_CLEANOFF))legok--;
   if((wound[BODYPART_LEG_LEFT] & WOUND_NASTYOFF)||
       (wound[BODYPART_LEG_LEFT] & WOUND_CLEANOFF))legok--;

   // Special modifications to attributes based on circumstances,
   // especially aging effects and unusual injuries like paralysis
   switch(attribute)
   {
   case ATTRIBUTE_STRENGTH:
      if(special[SPECIALWOUND_NECK]!=1||
         special[SPECIALWOUND_UPPERSPINE]!=1)
      {
         ret=1;
      }
      else if(special[SPECIALWOUND_LOWERSPINE]!=1)ret>>=2;

      if(age<11)ret>>=1;     // Strength is lowest at the beginning and end of life
      else if(age<16)ret-=1;
      else if(age>35)ret-=1;
      else if(age>52)ret-=3;
      else if(age>70)ret-=6;
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_AGILITY:
      if(special[SPECIALWOUND_NECK]!=1||
         special[SPECIALWOUND_UPPERSPINE]!=1)
      {
         ret=1;
      }
      else if(special[SPECIALWOUND_LOWERSPINE]!=1)ret>>=2;
      else if(legok==0)ret>>=2;
      else if(legok==1)ret>>=1;

      if(age>35)ret-=1;      // Agility is weakened with age
      else if(age>52)ret-=3;
      else if(age>70)ret-=6;
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_HEALTH:
      if(special[SPECIALWOUND_NECK]!=1||
         special[SPECIALWOUND_UPPERSPINE]!=1)
      {
         ret=1;
      }
      else if(special[SPECIALWOUND_LOWERSPINE]!=1)ret>>=2;

      if(age<11)ret-=2;
      else if(age<16)ret-=1; // Physical immaturity weakens health
                             // Aging actually damages base health and eventually kills, so no aging effects here
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_CHARISMA:
      ret-=disfigs;

      if(age<11)ret+=2;      // Lots of folks like kids
      else if(age<16)ret-=1; // Teenagers have communication difficulties and image issues
      else if(age>35)ret+=1; // Authority and experience in life then enhance Charisma with age
      else if(age>52)ret+=2;
      else if(age>70)ret+=3;
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_INTELLIGENCE:
      if(age<11)ret-=3;      // Experience enhances Intelligence with age
      else if(age<16)ret-=1;
      else if(age>35)ret+=1;
      else if(age>52)ret+=2;
      else if(age>70)ret+=3;
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_WISDOM:
      if(age<11)ret-=2;      // Experience grants Wisdom with age
      else if(age<16)ret-=1;
      else if(age>52)ret+=1;
      else if(age>70)ret+=2;
      break;
   case ATTRIBUTE_HEART:
      if(age<11)ret+=2;      // Experience saps Heart with age due to cynicism
      else if(age<16)ret+=1; // No wonder it's typically the young who are most Liberal...
      else if(age>52)ret-=1;
      else if(age>70)ret-=2;
      break;
   }

   // Debilitations for temporary injuries in attributes based
   // on physical appearance or performance, because people who
   // are bleeding all over are less strong, agile, and charismatic
   if(attribute==ATTRIBUTE_STRENGTH||
      attribute==ATTRIBUTE_AGILITY||
      attribute==ATTRIBUTE_CHARISMA)
   {
      if(blood<=20)ret>>=2;
      else if(blood<=50){ret>>=1;}
      else if(blood<=75){ret*=3;ret>>=1;}
   }

   // Bounds check attributes
   if(ret<1)ret=1;
   if(ret>20)ret=20;

   return ret;
}
And the code for aging:

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// Aging
   for(p=0;p<pool.size();p++)
   {
      pool[p]->stunned = 0; // For lack of a better place, make stunning expire here

      if(!pool[p]->alive||pool[p]->animalgloss)continue;
      // animals, tanks don't have age effects at the moment
     
      if(pool[p]->age>60)
      {
         int decrement=0;
         while(pool[p]->age - decrement>60)
         {
            if(LCSrandom(365*10)==0)
            {
               pool[p]->adjust_attribute(ATTRIBUTE_HEALTH,-1);
               if(pool[p]->get_attribute(ATTRIBUTE_HEALTH,false)<=0 &&
                  pool[p]->get_attribute(ATTRIBUTE_HEALTH,true)<=1)
               {
                  pool[p]->die();
                  if(clearformess)erase();
                  else
                  {
                     makedelimiter(8,0);
                  }
                  set_color(COLOR_WHITE,COLOR_BLACK,1);
                  move(8,1);
                  addstr(pool[p]->name);
                  addstr(" has passed away at the age of ");
                  char str[5];
                  itoa(pool[p]->age,str,10);
                  addstr(str);
                  addstr(". The Liberal will be missed.");
                  refresh();
                  getch();
                  break;
               }
            }
            decrement+=10;
         }
         if(!pool[p]->alive)continue;
      }
      if(month==pool[p]->birthday_month&&
         day==pool[p]->birthday_day)
      {
         pool[p]->age++;
         switch(pool[p]->age)
         {
         case 13:
            pool[p]->type=CREATURE_TEENAGER; // aww, all grown up
            break;
         case 18:
            pool[p]->type=CREATURE_POLITICALACTIVIST; // ok seriously this time
            break;
         }
      }

      if(disbanding)continue;

      if(pool[p]->clinic)continue;
      if(pool[p]->dating)continue;
      if(pool[p]->hiding)continue;
      if(pool[p]->squadid!=-1)continue;
      if(pool[p]->location==-1)continue;

      if(location[pool[p]->location]->type!=SITE_GOVERNMENT_POLICESTATION&&
         location[pool[p]->location]->type!=SITE_GOVERNMENT_COURTHOUSE&&
         location[pool[p]->location]->type!=SITE_GOVERNMENT_PRISON)
      {
         // Prevent moving people to a sieged location,
         // but don't evacuate people already under siege. - wisq
         if(pool[p]->location != pool[p]->base &&
            location[pool[p]->base]->siege.siege)
         {
            pool[p]->base=homes;
         }

         pool[p]->location=pool[p]->base;
      }
   }

Short version (note, "between X and Y" means "if they are at least X and not Y or greater"):

• All of these modifications occur after the juice modifications
• For strength:
  
  • You lose strength for severe spinal or neck injuries
  • Under the age of 11, your strength is halved (rounded down)
  • Between 11 and 16, your strength is lessened by 1
  • Between 16 and 35, your strength is unaffected
  • Between 35 and 52, your strength is lessened by 1
  • Between 52 and 70, your strength is lessened by 3
  • 70 and over, your strength is lessened by 6
• For agility:
  
  • You lose agility for severe spinal, neck or leg injuries
  • Under the age of 35, your agility is unaffected
  • Between 35 and 52, your agility is lessened by 1
  • Between 52 and 70, your agility is lessened by 3
  • 70 and over, your agility is lessened by 6
• For health:
  
  • You lose health for severe spinal or neck injuries
  • Under the age of 11, your health lessened by 2
  • Between 11 and 16, your health is lessened by 1
  • Between 16 and 60 (including 60), your health is normal
  • Over 60, your take damage to your base health stat
  • Done once every day for every 10 years of age starting at 60 (so once at 60, twice at 70, three times at 80, etc.)
  • It rolls a random number from 0 to 3649
  • If it rolls a 0, the character's base health drops by one
  • If that leaves your base health at or below 0 and your modified health is at or below 1, you die
• For charisma:
  
  • You lose charisma for all your disfigurements
  • Under the age of 11, your charisma is increased by 2
  • Between 11 and 16, your charisma is lessened by 1
  • Between 16 and 35, your charisma is unaffected
  • Between 35 and 52, your charisma is increased by 1
  • Between 52 and 70, your charisma is increased by 2
  • Over 70, your charisma is increased by 3
• For intelligence:
  
  • Under the age of 11, your intelligence is lessened by 3
  • Between 11 and 16, your intelligence is lessened by 1
  • Between 16 and 35, your intelligence is unaffected
  • Between 35 and 52, your intelligence is increased by 1
  • Between 52 and 70, your intelligence is increased by 2
  • Over 70, your intelligence is increased by 3
• For wisdom:
  
  • Under the age of 11, your wisdom is lessened by 2
  • Between 11 and 16, your wisdom is lessened by 1
  • Between 16 and 52, your wisdom is unaffected
  • Between 52 and 70, your wisdom is increased by 1
  • Over 70, your wisdom is increased by 2
• For heart:
  
  • Under the age of 11, your heart is increased by 2
  • Between 11 and 16, your heart is increased by 1
  • Between 16 and 52, your heart is unaffected
  • Between 52 and 70, your heart is lessened by 1
  • Over 70, your heart is lessened by 2

The entire process is this (spoilered for length):

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• Create a temporary variable (ret), starting at the base value
• If we're not factoring in juice (either because we actually want the base value or because of a wisdom/heart alignment mismatch), just return ret straight away and skip the next steps
• Otherwise, if juice is...
  
  • At or less than -50, set ret to 1 - Damn worthless
  • Greater than -50 and at or less than -10, multiply ret by 0.6 and round it down - Society's dregs
  • Greater than -10 and at or less than 0, multiply ret by 0.8 and round it down - Punk
  • Greater than 0 and at or less than 10, keep ret as is - Civilian
  • Greater than 10 and less than 50, add 1 to ret and round it down - Activist
  • At or greater than 50 and less than 100, multiply ret by 1.1, add 2 to it and then round it down - Socialist Threat
  • At or greater than 100 and less than 200, multiply ret by 1.2, add 3 to it and then round it down - Revolutionary
  • At or greater than 200 and less than 500, multiply ret by 1.3, add 4 to it and then round it down - Urban Guerrilla
  • At or greater than 500 and less than 1000, multiply ret by 1.4, add 5 to it and then round it down - Liberal Guardian
  • At 1000, multiply ret by 1.5, add 6 to it and then round it down - Liberal Guardian
• Then make a temporary variable called disfigs and start it at 0 - it tells the game how disfigured the character is.
• Then if...
  
  • He's missing any teeth, add 1 to disfigs
  • He's missing more than half his teeth, add 1 to disfigs
  • He's missing all his teeth, add 1 to disfigs
  • He's missing his right eye, add 2 to disfigs
  • He's missing his left eye, add 2 to disfigs
  • He's missing his tongue, add 3 to disfigs
  • He's missing his nose, add 3 to disfigs
• Then calculate how many legs are intact
• The age and injury process is then applied (as above, with more detail for injuries - I might add that later)
  
• For strength, agility or charisma:
  
  • If you are down to 20 blood or less (it's a percentage, basically), quarter ret (rounded down)
  • If you are between 20 and 50 blood, halve ret (rounded down)
  • If you are between 75 and 100 blood, multiply ret by 3 and then halve it (rounded down)**
• Lastly, clamp ret in the range [1,20] and return it

**This might be intended or might be a bug, but it means that, at a certain level of bloodloss, you are stronger, more agile and more charismatic than with all your blood

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: jasonred79 on March 19, 2010, 11:45:57 pm

Wow! Thanks! ... Looks like I could theoratically find child warriors with agility of 10 then? Coolio.

So a mutant with 20 base health has a life expectancy of 118 years? hmmm...

What happens for children under 11 years who have 1 for BASE health? They automatically die? Modified health is set to 1? Base health is set to 3?

What do you lose for having a missing arm? How about 2 missing arms?

Ooh... just found out that children below 10 will very very often end up with heart over 20 at 1000 juice. Like 22 Heart is common.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Kay12 on March 20, 2010, 03:11:52 am

Yes, I think the code is bugged - stats can rise over 20 (normal cap) by aging.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Innominate on March 20, 2010, 03:23:51 am

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 19, 2010, 11:45:57 pm

Wow! Thanks! ... Looks like I could theoratically find child warriors with agility of 10 then? Coolio.

So a mutant with 20 base health has a life expectancy of 118 years? hmmm...

What happens for children under 11 years who have 1 for BASE health? They automatically die? Modified health is set to 1? Base health is set to 3?

What do you lose for having a missing arm? How about 2 missing arms?

Aging only occurs when the people are 60 or over, regardless of their health. Since their base health is 1, they will not die straight away; nothing modifies base health except for aging, and so they will live on heartily, except extremely feeble, until 60. They'll probably drop dead within days after that.

A mutant with 20 base health and 1000 juice will live even longer. Their modified health stat will be greater than 1 until base health is -4. I can't be bothered to work out how long they would live for, because the "once per day per decade of age do aging" is complicated to do exactly (and as a mathematician, I have a phobia of inexact numbers). Suffice it to say that they would live for a rather long time unless you were extremely unlucky.

For wounds, as far as I can tell missing an arm does absolutely nothing to your stats. However, if you receive wound to your upper spine, your neck, or are missing both arms, you will drop whatever you are holding (and, I assume, be subsequently unable to equip any weapons). Apparently it doesn't even affect martial arts skill (nor, funnily enough, the readouts from combat). Unless I've read the source code wrong, you should be able to punch, kick, grapple or even jump kick, despite missing the relevant limbs.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Kay12 on March 20, 2010, 03:35:23 am

At least upper spine injury causes agi and str to lower to 1.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: jasonred79 on March 20, 2010, 10:32:47 am

Quote from: Innominate on March 20, 2010, 03:23:51 am

A mutant with 20 base health and 1000 juice will live even longer. Their modified health stat will be greater than 1 until base health is -4. I can't be bothered to work out how long they would live for, because the "once per day per decade of age do aging" is complicated to do exactly (and as a mathematician, I have a phobia of inexact numbers). Suffice it to say that they would live for a rather long time unless you were extremely unlucky.

Er... what's so complicated? It's an average of 1 health loss per 10 years for 60+, 2 health loss per decade for 70+, 3 for 80+, so on and so forth...

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Innominate on March 21, 2010, 12:21:09 am

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 20, 2010, 10:32:47 am

Quote from: Innominate on March 20, 2010, 03:23:51 am

A mutant with 20 base health and 1000 juice will live even longer. Their modified health stat will be greater than 1 until base health is -4. I can't be bothered to work out how long they would live for, because the "once per day per decade of age do aging" is complicated to do exactly (and as a mathematician, I have a phobia of inexact numbers). Suffice it to say that they would live for a rather long time unless you were extremely unlucky.

Er... what's so complicated? It's an average of 1 health loss per 10 years for 60+, 2 health loss per decade for 70+, 3 for 80+, so on and so forth...

Because you're doing averages, not formal statistical expectation.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 01:18:58 am

Er... averages are based on statistical expecation... E(1*10*365/3650)= 1... is that any better for you?

As for mutants, with that number of instances (P=1/3650, N= 200,000), you would have to be EXTREMELY unlucky or lucky to have your life expectancy deviate significantly from 118 years...



Also, I don't quite understand about the modified health stat being greater than 1 until base health is -4. Er... now I gotta ask how juice effects stats... I always thought it was a strict multiplier or something... what's the real formula?

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Innominate on March 21, 2010, 02:34:26 am

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 01:18:58 am

Also, I don't quite understand about the modified health stat being greater than 1 until base health is -4. Er... now I gotta ask how juice effects stats... I always thought it was a strict multiplier or something... what's the real formula?

• If juice is...
  
  • At or less than -50, set ret to 1 - Damn worthless
  • Greater than -50 and at or less than -10, multiply ret by 0.6 and round it down - Society's dregs
  • Greater than -10 and at or less than 0, multiply ret by 0.8 and round it down - Punk
  • Greater than 0 and at or less than 10, keep ret as is - Civilian
  • Greater than 10 and less than 50, add 1 to ret and round it down - Activist
  • At or greater than 50 and less than 100, multiply ret by 1.1, add 2 to it and then round it down - Socialist Threat
  • At or greater than 100 and less than 200, multiply ret by 1.2, add 3 to it and then round it down - Revolutionary
  • At or greater than 200 and less than 500, multiply ret by 1.3, add 4 to it and then round it down - Urban Guerrilla
  • At or greater than 500 and less than 1000, multiply ret by 1.4, add 5 to it and then round it down - Liberal Guardian
  • At 1000, multiply ret by 1.5, add 6 to it and then round it down - Elite Liberal

So at 0 base health, an elite liberal has 6 modified health. I actually just realised (as I was typing this) that they will reach 1 modified at -3 base, not -4; I forgot to round down afterwards :-[

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 01:18:58 am

Er... averages are based on statistical expecation... E(1*10*365/3650)= 1... is that any better for you?

The expected lifespan follows a negative binomial distribution (implying a fixed number, R, of successes, with the Rth success falling on the Nth trial, where N is the random variable), with p = 1/3650 and N = trials(days), where (assuming days is days at or over the age of 60):

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trials(d) = {
d if d < 3650
3650d + 2(d - 3650) ⇒ 3652d - 7300 if 3650 ≤ d < 7300
3*3650d + 3(d - 7300) ⇒ 10953d - 21900 if 7300 ≤ d < 10950
...
n*3650d + n(d - 3650n) ⇒ 3651nd - 3650n[sup]2[/sup] if n ≤ d/3650 < n + 1 ∀ n ∈ ℕ\0
}
So while I can trivially work out the expected number of trials (E(NB(p,R,N)) = R/p ⇒ E(NP(1/3650,23,N)) = 83950 trials), but the number of days is trials^-1(83950), which is a bothersome function. Working it out manually, 83950 trials corresponds to 62 years and 313 days, which is an age of 122 (almost 123).

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 01:18:58 am

As for mutants, with that number of instances (P=1/3650, N= 200,000), you would have to be EXTREMELY unlucky or lucky to have your life expectancy deviate significantly from 118 years...

True.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 02:47:49 am

Right! So it's 23 failed rolls for him to die, not 20!

Hmm... testing if I get the same result as you using simpler intuitive methods.
60-70 : 1 health loss
70-80 : 2 loss
80-90 : 3 loss
90-100 : 4
100-110 : 5
110-120 : 6

Edit due to careless mistake in multiplication:
And at 120, remainder 2 health, with 7 checks per day... E(n*7/3650)=2 .... n=1042.85
So that's 2 years and 313 days, same answer as you. SORTED.

Title: Re: How does age effect stats in LCS?
Post by: Innominate on March 21, 2010, 03:30:44 am

Quote from: jasonred79 on March 21, 2010, 02:47:49 am

Right! So it's 23 failed rolls for him to die, not 20!

Hmm... testing if I get the same result as you using simpler intuitive methods.
60-70 : 1 health loss
70-80 : 2 loss
80-90 : 3 loss
90-100 : 4
100-110 : 5
110-120 : 6

Edit due to careless mistake in multiplication:
And at 120, remainder 2 health, with 7 checks per day... E(n*7/3650)=2 .... n=1042.85
So that's 2 years and 313 days, same answer as you. SORTED.

Makes me think we should put this on the wiki somewhere.