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Finally... => Forum Games and Roleplaying => Topic started by: Hoborobo234 on April 15, 2010, 09:20:45 am
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It is the not too distant future. A decade ago a desperate British public voted an Extremist Oppressive government into power. You and your 6 co-conspirators have decided that enough is enough. The revolution starts now! The uprising must be kept secret, you must gather supporters and funds under the cloak of Secrecy, just steer clear of the secret police and you will be OK.
Members: 7
Funds: £1200
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Realize that violence is not the answer
Have others go out to recruit more members
Attempt to purchase a small shop
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Two of your com padres go to the nearest Public Information Bureau. There is a small building available in an "Up and Coming" area of town. It is available for £1000 with a £300 a month charge after that.
At the moment it would be too risky to ask random members to join your Uprising. They could report you to the Secret police or worse, be a member of the Police itself
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Reenact the novel Nineteen Eighty Four.
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hmm buy a printing press and print propaganda posters and organize a meeting write a fake place and time then somehow hide a code in the propaganda poster and those who discover this code will be revealed the true location of the secret meeting...this way we could recruit members... the secret police will propably fooled by the wrong location and time.
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We buy the Small shop. It has two rooms, a large shop front and a small back room. The front of the shop is mainly glass with supports and a door made of wood.
A Printing press will cost £200 the resources needed to create propaganda will cost £50. You will also need to feed yourselves which will cost £50 a month.
Funds: £200
Members: 7
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I suggest that all members take a few odd jobs for the next few weeks until we can cobble together enough for the press, materials and eats for the month. Never hurts to be cautious right?
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I assume that the cost of food is £7 per member per month?
Begin by recruiting family members who are known to be sympathetic. This way, if they are less than loyal they have to betray a son or sister rather than just some person.
Then look for a small basement apartment or better still some warehouse space, rather than a storefront, so the operation is more secretive and rent is cheaper.
We should get odd jobs, talking with people in normal conversation to figure out who might be a good recruit, and to gather information.
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6 of the members search for small jobs to do; Paper Rounds, Shop assistants and cleaners. You inquire about hiring some basement or warehouse space, the docklands has a cheap basement space of about 20 M squared for £50 a month. There is a warehouse above it of the same space on one level that can be rented for an additional £100 a month
Income a day: £30
Funds: £230
Members: 7
Day two: You have slept in Public Accommodation for the night
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I think it's less "Okay, $7 per member, $7 times 7 is ~$50" and more "Okay, hmmm, what's reasonable? $50 sounds about right".
Purchase some lumber. Have some of the members make woodcrafts, which they sell in the shop.
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Lumber can be bought in Bulk for £150 a ton.
Is it available in 20KG bags for £10
you will need a knife to carve and the Government says you need a license
to buy knives outside of kitchen use
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Use knives to make wooden statues of Big Brother.
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Can we carve with a kitchen knife?
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You can carve with a kitchen knife although a woodcarving knife would be better.
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How much does a license cost?
Anyway, we don't need one now, better to lay low.
Purchase kitchen knife
Purchase 20 kg of lumber
2 members take odd jobs
4 members, including main character (let's call him Winston for now), carve propagandist idols of president/totalitarian leader/whatever
1 member man shop and sell idols
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Decide that we need a slogan.
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How much does a license cost?
Anyway, we don't need one now, better to lay low.
Purchase kitchen knife
Purchase 20 kg of lumber
2 members take odd jobs
4 members, including main character (let's call him Winston for now), carve propagandist idols of president/totalitarian leader/whatever
1 member man shop and sell idols
That, but learn prices of knives.
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Decide that we need a slogan.
For now just No Pasarán would be enough for those Fascist pigs.
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You need to find a rusty pipe,or a crowbar,or something else everyone has in those cliche small resistance destroys big group movies.
Better yet,just do it Gordan Freeman style and just get a crowbar,then break into a house and take everything its worth!
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Don't worry, men. They may have M16s, but we have crowbars!
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Guys, I understand you feel the need to have a shop. But a shop is public by necessity, and if our shop sells idols of Big Brother they will murder us all with chopsticks and billy clubs in our sleep.
We should just make it look like the shop is undergoing renovation, put newspapers up in the windows, leave empty paint cans just inside, etc. Sleep there instead of "public accomodations" to save money unless it's expected that useless folks should sleep in the publics. There's also the danger of all of us being seen together all the time.
Is there a government listing for what kind of shops that neighborhood needs? It would be best to set up that kind of shop.
We have income of £30 a day. We should just keep working day jobs throughout the month. In a couple days we can hire the warehouse basement, and begin working there on and off as our work shifts allow.
> Try to get a garbage-man job or a city dump job for one of them
> Look around in thrift stores for anything weaponlike (pipes, probably, because a crowbar likely needs a license)
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I think we need to establish a powerful income, and I don't think day jobs have high enough wages. With selling idols or whatnot, we could make a lot more money - and an army marches on its wallet. How about that needed-shop idea you discussed? That seems more profitable than idols - I just couldn't think of anything to sell.
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they cant kill us in our sleep.We will put do not disturb stickers all over the place.If they have any respect,they wont come in.
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they cant kill us in our sleep.We will put do not disturb stickers all over the place.If they have any respect,they wont come in.
Except this is a Fascist Totalitarian Government. Think about the movie or novel 1984. Big Brother will manipulate public opinion hell they'll arrest thought criminals! This Arch-Conservative environment will probably allow the Intelligence Agencies and the Police Department to go wild!
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Basically it?
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Yep.
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We are boned.
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Basically it?
No, you do not exist the way they exist.
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We are boned.
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Yep.
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lol.
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The Shop charter will discuss the shops allowed in each area. The area where your shop is based is classed as a Poor district. Poor districts are allowed to sell basic foodstuffs and water, Pornographic material that is provided by the government , Furniture. Selling books is strictly PROHIBITED and is punishable by death.
The public accommodation charter is to discuss the use of Public Accommodation. Public Accommodation is to be used by any members of Britain that is not in possession of their own home. Children are to move into Public Accommodation at the age of 16. To move out of Public Accommodation subjects are to register to opt out of PA. To do this they must fill out the appropriate form, show their citizenship papers and the deed to their new place of residence. Failure to check into any PA Checkpoint will result into the Re-establishment, Interrogation and Rehabilitation
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Heh, you can sell porn but not books?
Right, let's purchase and sell nonperishable food and water.
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Purchasing Government Canned Food and Government Standard Issue Water will cost £90 for a shop of your size to be fully stocked.
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Could we get an inventory and objectives?
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How many people do we need to man the shop?
Objective: Topple the government
Inventory:
7 members
230 pounds
Small shop
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* Deed to a small shop
We would need 1 man at a time a possibly swap around in shifts. The government regulations states that all shops are to stay open only between the times of 9AM and 5PM and breakage of the these Guidelines will result in R.I.R.
[Also, how did you get that very snazzy dotted Underline that adds additional information Ched, that's awesome!]
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Use (acronym=Biggest shop in the land. Bigger than 30 Wal-Marts combined. Unfortunately, still to small to stock your mom)huge shop(/acronym) except with brackets, [], instead of parentheses, ().
Stock shop with food and water
One man man (heh) the shop
Six men do odd jobs
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The rest of your party does odd jobs where you take control of the store. Food is in demand in areas such as this where the Population is growing rather quickly. Standard Issue Bottled Water is also in high demand as it is often quicker and easier that walking to local dirty well or using erratic water system.
The shop has earned a good £20 today. That is £50 from today all together.
Objective: Topple the government
Inventory:
7 members
190 pounds
Small shop
The shop has sold approximately 1/9 of the Food and 1/5 of the water that has been stocked
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One member man shop, five do odd jobs, one investigates shoppers and tries to find potential recruits
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One member is tasked with running the shop, the other men do their assorted odd jobs except for one man who has been tasked with carefully talking to and picking out members of the public who may be willing to join our cause.
There have been nobody who looks like they wish to join.
A newspaper headline this morning reads:
Relations with America worsened
There are other headlines such as:
Canned food production moved to the northeast
Spanish pirates strike again
Rise in Crime over past year
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What does the article about America say?
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Awesome forum game.
Can we fast-forward a week with one recruiter/one seller/five jobbers and auto-buy when supplies run out?
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Dwarf's sentiment is legitimate. I would like it if there was some sort of action going on, you know, not just boring old getting stuff over and over again.
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You fast forward a week.
( + £ 350 )
Your recruiter has found one regular to the shop who is always complaining about the regime and moans about how bad life has gotten under the Fascists.
The shop is in need of a restock tomorrow
One of the odd jobbers got a small rise. You will now make £70 a day.
Inventory:
7 members
540 pounds
Small shop
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> Check the recruit, where does he live, work etc.
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Today, this fellow walks in the door, Your recruit mentions to him that he seems to have it in for the government and decides to check his papers. The man looks very scared as he knows about the secret police and how they operate. The recruiter has arranged for him to meet with him this evening.
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Alright, send recruiter WITH CAUTION.
Also, how much would it cost to restock the store?
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Send recruiter with explosives under shirt (can we?) if it is a trap he kills himself, but killing a member of the secret police.
(And 1984 were more communists than anything, because Orwell really didnt like Stalin)
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The recruiter heads to the hopefuls apartment and engages him in an Interview, he doesn't let on much and allows the other to make advances, never saying anything that could be quoted against him in a court of law, not that it mattered.
The hopeful has decided to join our organization, he says he knows others that have similar views to him and will do his best to convert them. He will continue to live in his apartment as selling his house and not moving into another would seem suspicious. He has added another £30 a day to income has he is a trained worker.
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Keep close eye on new recruit, learn about explosives.
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Bring him with us.
Shoot him.
he is a spy
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Also, restock the store. We needs money.
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Also, restock the store. We needs money.
This.
Keep on doing what we were doing.
Hobo, how are we going to do this? We can't attack the entire government, that's too hard. But we can't attack a small piece, because then they'll just send a bunch of guys after us and kill us.
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Yeah,Restock store when supplies are low,Mostly on high demand things,such as porn.
And you should sell various Soaps.People need to be clean.
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We're not allowed to sell soap.
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We need to do it Guerilla-style. Conceal identity, forge IDs, alibis, hit and run attacks on vital infrastructure; Money transports, subways, train stations - Sometimes few have to die for the good of the many.
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To put it simply, we need more recruits. We can go from there.
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I don't think we can, Diablous. We need some sort of plan. Three thousand loyal recruits are still just going to get gunned down against government troops.
And terrorist bombings are good, but kind of useless. We'd have to do that hundreds of times to do any significant damage, unless we tried to attack the capital or something, in which case, again, government troops keel us.
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Get firearms. This probably involves infiltrating a (presumably, in a 1984-esque totalitaristic fascitic setting) very high security weapons factory.
Of course we'll not go around wildly killing people, but we always need to defend ourselves.
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Good idea, but I think it's a little ambitious right now...
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So, fast-forward another two weeks.
>Check on other shops (in richer areas?)
>Check weapon laws
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How is the general situation of the armed forces? Or is there any city-country disparity?
Unless we have a cell network which encompasses all the proletarian mass in London, we have to concentrate our forces on one or two departments.
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We're not allowed to sell soap.
We can't sell soap?I overlooked that.
Smuggle Soap.
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You restock the shop
( - £90 )
Military Information is highly classified and it only accessable to Government Officials. There is currently a campaign in Siberia however which plans to win us land and resources if successful.
We fast forward two weeks.
( + £1400 )
The shop needed to be restocked twice over this time
( - £180 )
The new member has recruited two of his friends. Income now up to £140 a day.
A large warehouse has become availible at the docklands for £10,000
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Research homemade explosives damnit!
((1984 wasnt fascist it was more communist!))
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Phantom's gone, Huesoo.
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Shoot new member and friends.
They are spies.
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No, just see if we can get another business, like a smoothie stand or a coffee shop.
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No, just see if we can get another business, like a smoothie stand or a coffee shop.
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You dont want to kill the thought police?
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No, just see if we can get another business, like a smoothie stand or a coffee shop.
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You dont want to kill the thought police?
How can we? All our assets amounts to a single store. Tell me you can fund an army or at least a mob of angry rioters with one store.
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No, just see if we can get another business, like a smoothie stand or a coffee shop.
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You dont want to kill the thought police?
How can we? All our assets amounts to a single store. Tell me you can fund an army or at least a mob of angry rioters with one store.
New recruit. Seems to be thinking OUT LOUD of how bad everyone is. IT IS SOOOOOO NOT OBVIOUS.
THOUGHT UNDERCOVER POLICE. KILL. EXECUTE. THROW OFF BUILDING INTO CROWD. RUN.
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I don't think Hoborobo would be so mean to send us thoughtpolice when our glorious revolutionaries are in their infancy.
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I don't think Hoborobo would be so mean to send us thoughtpolice when our glorious revolutionaries are in their infancy.
THATS WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO THINK.
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No, just see if we can get another business, like a smoothie stand or a coffee shop.
I was thinking about this, but they're expensive. Unless we start taking steps of several months, shops are more expensive than they're worth...
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Research homemade explosives damnit!
((1984 wasnt fascist it was more communist!))
Communism does not exclude fascism. In fact, the stalin-era Soviet Union was red fascistic.
Communism is an economical system, fascism a political.
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I don't think Hoborobo would be so mean to send us thoughtpolice when our glorious revolutionaries are in their infancy.
THATS WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO THINK.
What right do you have to presume what I am thinking?
Also, do you think I would be so harsh, your talking about a guy who once let several Cavemen survive for 2 days on just a handful of berries.
Any way, What is it we want to do guys?
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Seek out more assets, like stores, or find good jobs for our d00dz.
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Research homemade explosives damnit!
And Dwarf,
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/street/pl38/sect2.htm
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I don't think Hoborobo would be so mean to send us thoughtpolice when our glorious revolutionaries are in their infancy.
THATS WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO THINK.
What right do you have to presume what I am thinking?
Also, do you think I would be so harsh, your talking about a guy who once let several Cavemen survive for 2 days on just a handful of berries.
Any way, What is it we want to do guys?
Thats WIFOM!
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A medium sized shop (2 storeys) is available for purchase at £1000 and a further £200 rent a month. This shop is in a middle class zone. There is also a Warehouse available for £10,000 up front.
You need to pay the rent on the Small Shop in 2 days. (£300)
( + £ 140 )
10 members
1810 pounds
Small shop
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Hmmm. What's wanted in a middle class zone? What should we sell?
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I still say break into houses.
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I still say break into houses.
Don't we want the people on our side?
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Purchase the store and stock it with the best possible goods.
1: man store
1: man other store
1: recruit
7: odd jobs
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2nded.
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+1
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Middle Class Shopping charter: Owners of Premises being used for Shopping in Middle class areas of any British City are allowed to stock items as follows;
* Government Issue Canned Food and Government Issue Pre-Packed Food
* Standard Issue Bottled Water and One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
* Plush Furniture and Standard Furniture
* Correctly Edited Pre-Takeover Literature and Government Approved Modern Literature
* Electronic Goods
* BRITISH POST Newspapers
Stocking of any product not covered by this charter is disallowed and convicts will be sentenced to R.I.R.
You have chosen to buy this Property in the Middle Class sector of Town.
( - £ 1000 )
10 members
810 pounds
Small shop
Two Storey Shop at Middle Class Sector.
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Let's stock up on food and drink.
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To fully stock this Shop with Food and drink will cost £180.
( - £ 180 )
This property also has a basement. Would you like to store the Surplus here?
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Yeah, we'll use the basement. If it's not too much, Hoborobo, can you give us a general heads-up on what is legal and what is not?
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Yeah, we'll use the basement. If it's not too much, Hoborobo, can you give us a general heads-up on what is legal and what is not?
Would be nice.
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Yeah, we'll use the basement. If it's not too much, Hoborobo, can you give us a general heads-up on what is legal and what is not?
Would be nice.
Also, is there anything the people generally crave? Liquor? Cigarettes? Chocolate?
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* Government Issue Canned Food and Government Issue Pre-Packed Food
* Standard Issue Bottled Water and One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
* Plush Furniture and Standard Furniture
* Correctly Edited Pre-Takeover Literature and Government Approved Modern Literature
* Electronic Goods
* BRITISH POST Newspapers
Well that's what we can sell. I guess they might want the luxury liquid.
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Maybe we can slowly slowly SLOOOWWLY tap into the bootlegging business. Maybe join the black market*, gain power and influence, etc.
*If there is one, anyways.
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Maybe we can slowly slowly SLOOOWWLY tap into the bootlegging business. Maybe join the black market*, gain power and influence, etc.
*If there is one, anyways.
There is bound to be a black market. And I think that should be were we obtain weapons. Getting them legally could be impossible or so full of policies that they could easily be tracked to us.
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The black market is present yet heavily suppressed and hard to find. The docklands are probably the best place to find somebody who knows how to get in contact with someone who knows how to access it.
Of course, these law breakers are keen in the art of smuggling and are not afraid to break the law. Maybe these are the sort of people we should be looking at if we want to start gaining more members and creating more disruption to the infrastructure or create political tension.
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The black market is present yet heavily suppressed and hard to find. The docklands are probably the best place to find somebody who knows how to get in contact with someone who knows how to access it.
Noted. We'll get in later. First we need a economic base. Those weapons won't do much good if we can't afford them.
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In that case, would you like to fast forward?
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Gentlemen, if it's not too late I would like to join the revolution.
What we need is a garage or some kind of workshop.
We could make homemade weapons.
We also need to buy a pub/bar where smuggles, cut-throats, bandits and potential allies might hang out.
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Okay, I think we should get more monies before we can think of getting into the black market. Can we skip time a few months, if that's ok?
Yeah, I think we could get ourselves some thugs, but we should stockpile the alcohol. Might be what they want from us.
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Yeah, I think we could get ourselves some thugs, but we should stockpile the alcohol. Might be what they want from us.
Thus a bar.
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You will skip time by 6 months.
( + £ 33600)
You have needed to restock the stores several times and you have also had to pay rent.
Rent : - £ 1000
Restock: - £ 500
( - £ 1500 )
32730 Pounds
10 Members
Small Shop
2 Storey shop
Income per day: £200
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How much is a Garage/workshop worth?
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I say electronics seem the most profitable.
Also, we should use the basement for something, not just stocking surplus.
Search for a larger, more profitable shop
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Basement = Illegal weapon workshop.
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Good, good. I suggest we try to get a seductionist, ala LCS, so we can... convince some guards/gov't officials to help us. Have our recruiter keep on the lookout for women who are... skilled in that avenue. Also, start hoarding the liquor that we sell.
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Bar and goddamnit research illegal explosives.
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goddamnit research illegal explosives.
No. We are still new and I don't think we could get access to the materials needed.
Inquire on any werehouses at the docklands. Hopefuly this will allow us to get closer to the black market as they could approach us.
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Keep low.
What is our shop?
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There are several warehouses available at the docklands.
There is a small warehouse that has two storeys and a floor area of 250 M Squared
There is also a medium and a large Warehouse each are two storeys and are 500 and 1000 M squared respectively.
It must be said that almost everyone in the Docklands are Proles. There are very very few secret police agents as it is deemed too dangerous and there is little known about it by the government. There is a large amount of police presence in areas. There are often battles between Police and Proles in the area. Although nobody lives in Docklands officially members of certain Criminal Factions will sleep in faction owned warehouses and will often live there entirely.
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How much rent for the small warehouse?
I propose we transform it into our temporary revolutionary base, one floor armoury/quarters, one research.
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The small warehouse is available for £2000 with no rent. The top floor is a large empty room with many pillars. The bottom floor is mainly empty but includes some smaller rooms including a stairwell and an Office with no furniture.
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-Locate pharmacy (Potassium Nitrate)
-Locate cooking supply store (baking soda, sugar)
-Make smoke bombs, store in basement
Check prices of warehouse, and higher end stores.
Check prices of baseball bats
Check prices of lighters
Check prices of booze
Check Prices of paper
Check list of luxury liquids
Try to find Doctor willing to fight for the cause, two, if possible.
They can get us "prescriptions" for.... "semi" volatile powders (ex. Potassium Nitrate [Salt Peter])
Go ahead and buy the warehouse. we have more than enough.
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We purchase the Small Warehouse. It is in good condition with a couple of broken windows, really you are not gonna find a better Warehouse in the docklands.
( - £ 2000 )
30730 Pounds
10 Members
Small Shop
2 Storey shop
Income per day: £200
You inquire around the group to see if they know any Doctors who would be willing to fight for the cause. Nobody knows any, although one had a relative who was a vet.
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Which lab equipment is available without attracting too much attention?
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Most of it really. Buying any Test tubes or Bunsen burners legitimately would need papers to be shown and a decent reason. There might be some on the black market but you need to contact it first
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Well, let's start trying to contact the black market.
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Check prices of getting windows repaired, and metal bars put in. If it's under 2k, go ahead.
Begin buying bunk beds, to turn some of the rooms into barracks.
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A prole sub-contractor is willing to fix the few broken windows for £300. He will also put metal bars in all the windows for £1000.
( - £ 1300 )
He should be done in about a week.
Bunk Beds bought in bulk are suspicious. It might be possible to buy them under "Plush Furniture" for the Medium Shop and then siphon a few off each month without raising too much suspicion
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Bunk Beds bought in bulk are suspicious. It might be possible to buy them under "Plush Furniture" for the Medium Shop and then siphon a few off each month without raising too much suspicion
This seems like a good idea, but we need the deed to a house to get out of the Public sleeping place thing.
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Yes, or you could declare yourself a prole, but then you would lose your right to a job, owning the shops or the warehouses and any Government Services.
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Yes, or you could declare yourself a prole, but then you would lose your right to a job, owning the shops or the warehouses and any Government Services.
Kay. Let's stay in the public housing.
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What happens if we just leave?
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What happens if we just leave?
R.I.R.
Re-establishment, Interrogation and Rehabilitation.
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For the tubes, the Bunsen burner and other science related stuff, why not just raid a school?
High schools have labs, we sneak in at night and take what we need or we see if a member knows any science teachers that might adhere to the cause.
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Yeah, buying tons of beds would be kinds suspicious.
-Check ability to open blacksmith/metal working
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Yeah, buying tons of beds would be kinds suspicious.
It's not buying them thats suspicious. It's that we can't use them without drawing attention for not being at the public accomadation. We could sell them.
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Can't we buy a house?
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Can't we buy a house?
Probably. If we buy one we can check out of PA and live there. But it might be suspicous to move all of us into the same house.
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It would have to be big to house 10+ people...That might draw attention. It'll also need to be not far from the docks.
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Fast forward, siphon beds, try to get black market contacts, keep looking for doctor.
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Schools with adequate facilities are located in Middle class sectors. There are many more about nowadays because of the Government's keen education plans. Many however are heavily secured with key-pad locks and burglar alarms.
One of your members becomes aware that you could probably "store" beds in the warehouse and just order them and get them delivered to the Warehouse. Along with other furniture in "storage" the operation wouldn't seem very suspicious at all.
( + £ 200 )
29630 Pounds
10 Members
Small Shop
2 Storey shop
Small Warehouse
Income per day: £200
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>Look how much the big warehouse in the docks costs
>Look if there is a shop for sale in the high class place
>Try to get ties to the black market
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yeah aw contact in the black market is our main need atm
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Also, I think getting some proles on our side would be good too. we can start training up an army and organising a proper fight.
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I was thinking of using the big warehouse as a warehouse for the smugglers to store they're good and ask for rent or start our own smuggling or trading of smuggled goods business.
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Investigate whether it would be suspicious to sleep in the warehouse
Investigate legal security equipment and weapons
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Investigate price of buying an apartment complex/building.
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Of course, the Proles in these parts would be completely anti-government. These are people who fight the police everyday, especially in the docklands. Signing up some proles to the cause should be easy. Staying safe after building up an adequate force, won't.
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Alright, we should build up funds before thinking of getting thugs...
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As i stated in my turn we should amke contact with the black market, also when we have the connection we should start very slow kind of middle man/trading operations
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I don't think anybody would mind if I joined in..
But I think we should send one of our guys out to scan the crowds for common poor with 'skills'. Let them be muggers, pickpocketers or burglars.
The stealthy will be a great addition to the revolution, and they probably won't like the government anyways, with them being poor and mistreated and the likes.
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-Begin "storing" some food and water.
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A suitable recruitment method is essential for publicly recruiting new members, it must be subtle yet obvious for the target audience to understand.
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Buy matches. Thousands of matches.
We can make an explosive with them.
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Wait. We should not alienate the people.
It is good to be militant, but militant with a purpose.
We need to recruit more. The lower classes are nice, but we will need the middle class to be on our side too.
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indeed and also
Wait. We should not alienate the people.
It is good to be militant, but militant with a purpose.
We need to recruit more. The lower classes are nice, but we will need the middle class to be on our side too.
indeed we must get moar support but... we must be careful it just a single spy and its all over
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Wait. We should not alienate the people.
It is good to be militant, but militant with a purpose.
We need to recruit more. The lower classes are nice, but we will need the middle class to be on our side too.
Yes but how? how do we recruit these new members guys? Hanging out in the store isn't going to get us very far at all
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we could try to find people in bars who complain about the gov and tell the to meet the most useless member of the group who claims to be creating a secret society to overthrow the govs we recruit one member at a time wait for a month than recruit another without telling the recruit about the others thus we can recruit while only endangering one member at a time
edit: that was poorly worded but yuo should understand it
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Okay, we need to start dividing into cells. That is, we need to split our core in half, one working in the docklands and the other in the store. That way, if the docklands fail we have no connection with the store half. Don't use the warehouse as "storage" for beds or whatever, don't have any connection at all, but do siphon beds off occasionally and send them there.
So I recommend the following:
Small Food Shop (Anne, Benny)
Two-Story Medium Shop (Clara, Dean, Eve)
Small Warehouse (Faulkner, Gideon, Heather, Ingrid) [0 Proles]
Docklands Recruiter (Jack)
Jack should be our recruitment contact, who does not have any connection to the others. He does not visit the warehouse or the stores, or anything. All he does is search for and evaluate recruits. The testing involves conversations, theft, trampling upon the flag, etc. If Jack thinks this person is a good recruit, he sets up a "meeting with the whole organization" in a deserted alley. This creates an opportunity for Jack to be ambushed by the secret police. If nothing happens, Jack tells the recruit where to meet one of the Warehouse people so he can be escorted to the warehouse.
We also need to set up signals. For example, if there is an X of tape on a certain window, it means the whole operations is compromised. If there is a string tied around a certain light-pole, it means the secret police are around. Etc.
We need a small van.
Begin siphoning off food and water, too, pretending to have sold it. One unit of each for every set we buy from the suppliers. Deliver it to the warehouse at night with the occasional furniture, in the van, but drive circuituously through the docklands to make sure we're not followed.
Begin scavenging hand weapons, even if they're just pipes and kitchen knives, and store them in the Small Warehouse.
Create a hidden cubby or something in each of the buildings, where any contraband can be stored. Only the Loyalists will know where the cubbies are, any Prole recruits won't.
Longer-Term Planning
It would be awesome to contact the black market and get laboratory materials. Then we could make our own moonshine, which is useful for sale and for molotov cocktails (and morale!). It would also make explosives possible, and whatever drugs we find out about. We could also set up water filtration. Farming would probably be too suspicious.
We need some kind of printing / copying machine.
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Waiting for OP ::)
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Leo, you can claim the in-game leader character if you want. That is awesome and i agree with it whole heartedly.
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Waiting for OP ::)
Hey I can't be present at all times.
Ok. I see what Leo is trying to achieve, a sort of Hobo Code (http://www.angelfire.com/folk/famoustramp/signs.html) system to help with Operations.
A small van will set you back £500 for a bad, second hand vehicle. Fuel is cheap at 50p a Liter.
Recruitment technique is good as well, maybe with a counter ambush technique if anything goes awry?
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I'm thinking counter-ambush is no good, as the police will then just kill / capture more of us. It's possible that Jack could get rolled, though. I dunno. He should carry some pocket money so the mugger can take something if that happens.
What are police typically armed with?
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bump
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Police are armed with differentiating equipment depending on where they are stationed. High or Middle class areas police are armed with Pistols and minimal body armor. Low class areas have more of a conventional 2000's uniform with some body armor, truncheons and pistols. In some High crime areas, such as the docklands, Soldiers are used to keep the peace but only in the most extreme areas where some Criminals are just too bountiful. This is usually in heavily contested "Gang Warfare" areas.
From the few accounts that have been recounted, the Secret Police are sometimes very lightly equipped when wandering about, usually only harboring a Small Pistol which is used for Self Defense. When in Ambush mode however, they will most often have Sub Machine guns or Rifles which they will used with proficient accuracy and skill.
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to much, unless jack detonates a powerful alcohol based bomb which he sets off in case trouble. killing him and everybody in the immediate area. :D
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Yeah, I was hoping that maybe we could do the counter-ambush idea, that we could capture some weapons and kill a bunch of secret police while we're at it. But it sounds like we'd either get nothing worthwhile out of it, or else the police ambush would be too tough for us regardless. Plus we'd be endangering more of our Loyalists.
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im going to be the next recruit nd im going to be named Napoleon :D
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Oh also, officially, I vote we buy the van. Are there any laws about vehicle ownership? Do we have to submit our odometer readings every month? Is it legal to get it repaired wherever? Are there regular petrol stations around?
If we do buy the van, search it thoroughly back in the warehouse for listening / tracking devices. If we find a bug, LEAVE IT and just talk like we're normal people while we're in the van. If we find a tracking device, disable it without removing it so it looks like it might have just broken on its own.
This gives us the opportunity to buy fuel occasionally. We can stockpile fuel here and there for use in explosives. If necessary we can turn the odometer ahead every so often to make it look like we used extra fuel when we actually just siphoned it off.
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Oh also, officially, I vote we buy the van. Are there any laws about vehicle ownership? Do we have to submit our odometer readings every month? Is it legal to get it repaired wherever? Are there regular petrol stations around?
If we do buy the van, search it thoroughly back in the warehouse for listening / tracking devices. If we find a bug, LEAVE IT and just talk like we're normal people while we're in the van. If we find a tracking device, disable it without removing it so it looks like it might have just broken on its own.
This gives us the opportunity to buy fuel occasionally. We can stockpile fuel here and there for use in explosives. If necessary we can turn the odometer ahead every so often to make it look like we used extra fuel when we actually just siphoned it off.
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Vehicle Ownership Charter (2013): vehicles must be bought from a Government Source and a Valid reason for buying the vehicle must be registered with the Approved Vendor of Motor Vehicles. Suspicious or Dangerous use of a vehicle will result in the seizing of the Vehicle in question and R.I.R for the driver. Hopeful purchasers will have to complete and gain a sufficient result in a Motor Vehicle Practice Test. Failure to gain a sufficient mark will result in a failed test. Hopeful purchasers will not be able to re-take the test in 6 months
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Crap. what about bikes, or stuff like that?
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Pedal Bikes can be bought from shops in Middle- and High-Class areas. The Harbour Master in the Docks may be able to sell you a boat and a mooring dock
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Well, having a van to transport furniture between our warehouse and our shop seems like a valid reason to me.
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Well, having a van to transport furniture between our warehouse and our shop seems like a valid reason to me.
True.
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Well, having a van to transport furniture between our warehouse and our shop seems like a valid reason to me.
True.
we take the test with this reason
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The standard Vehicle Driving Practice Test (VDPT) consists of two parts; a Practical and a Theory section. A practical section include simply driving the vehicle around a course (all vehicles today are Automatic). The Theory Section is based on different driving scenarios and a small sections on the Road Infrastructure System.
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Do it, we're completely clean for now anyway.
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Do it, we're completely clean for now anyway.
yeah we do it
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Do it, we're completely clean for now anyway.
yeah we do it
I don't see a reason not to.
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We buy a Van
( - £500 )
One member must take the test. Who will it be?
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i do
one of the members suddenly changes his name to max
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One of the members asks to be refered to as Diablous. "I shall do it, provided Max does not mind."
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One of the members asks to be refered to as Diablous. "I shall do it, provided Max does not mind."
i do mind >:( ill be the getaway driver
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One of the members asks to be refered to as Diablous. "I shall do it, provided Max does not mind."
i do mind >:( ill be the getaway driver
Kay, sorry.
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A member named Phantom slaps them both saying the leader should be the getaway driver.
That or the person with the highest intelligence and motor skills.
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Small Food Shop (Anne, Gideon)
Two-Story Medium Shop (Clara, Dean, Eve)
Small Warehouse (Faulkner, Max, Heather, Ingrid)
Docklands Recruiter (Jack)
Fine, Benny changes his name to Max. I am not sure that I want to change a name to Diablous simply because it is a crazy, out of context name.
Max goes off to take the exam.
( + £ 200 )
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Small Food Shop (Anne, Gideon)
Two-Story Medium Shop (Clara, Dean, Eve)
Small Warehouse (Faulkner, Max, Heather, Ingrid)
Docklands Recruiter (Jack)
Fine, Benny changes his name to Max. I am not sure that I want to change a name to Diablous simply because it is a crazy, out of context name.
Max goes off to take the exam.
( + £ 200 )
Just say that he asks to be called it in private, amongst his fellow rebels. And that the guy was already mentally unhinged.
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It is the next day.
Max was able to complete the test. He will now be able to drive the van.
The van is outside of the Small Warehouse in the Docklands
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Do police regularly check vehicles in checkpoints in many places around the city? Specifically the docks?
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A member named Phantom slaps them both saying the leader should be the getaway driver.
That or the person with the highest intelligence and motor skills.
but the leader is newer there of course he sits and plans ditto on the person with the highest intelligence
none of us have any motor skills thats why we take a test
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There are checkpoints in the Docklands and at the edges of Governmental Areas.
The docklands check points are often busy or manned by poorly trained and lazy officials
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Do police regularly check vehicles in checkpoints in many places around the city? Specifically the docks?
stop trying to deny my right to be getaway driver >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Do police regularly check vehicles in checkpoints in many places around the city? Specifically the docks?
stop trying to deny my right to be getaway driver >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I think he's talking about what we can have in the van.
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LISTEN. The driver is already selected, max I don't know why you are getting irate we all have equal control over these characters. Now, how are we going to continue?
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Let's try to get some ties to the black market.
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Hrm.
See if any of those guys at the docklands need any smuggling to be done, in exchange for money, weapons, or probably even this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimanual_of_the_Urban_Guerrilla)
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Let's try to get some ties to the black market.
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Smuggling and the black market? A gun here would probably be expensive, because it may be hard to smuggle in arms with all the police and soldiers around.
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We need to get in contact with the criminal underworld for us to become involved with their inner workings. This includes; The black market, Recruitment etc.
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Get in contact with the criminal underworld.
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Get in contact with the criminal underworld.
haven't you gotten the gist yet?
tell me how
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Well, we use Jack to start getting recruits/ties with the proles. They are much more likely to know about the black market, as they are basically at war with the government.
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And see if there are guys at the docklands or governmental area checkpoints we could bribe, turn, or extort to let our people go though unchecked.
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Well, we use Jack to start getting recruits/ties with the proles. They are much more likely to know about the black market, as they are basically at war with the government.
And suggest how we could do this?
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The warehouse staff, when they have freetime, should roam the docklands and see if they can find anybody who seems to be a gangleader (or other important prole). They should try and make friends with them, and discern whether they are suitable to be recruited/liased. Then they set up a meeting with Jack.
Ammendments to this plan are welcome.
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The warehouse staff, when they have freetime, should roam the docklands and see if they can find anybody who seems to be a gangleader (or other important prole). They should try and make friends with them, and discern whether they are suitable to be recruited/liased. Then they set up a meeting with Jack.
Ammendments to this plan are welcome.
no only jack should go. no other rebel scum can be compromised
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I disagree with Maxicaxi.
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Jack is sent into the docklands. Before long he finds a large Warehouse with a massive silver hand painted on the side.
He stops the Van and gets out. He walks up to the door which is guarded by two men in grey hoods with a black trim. One of them wields an Automatic Rifle. He stops Jack and asks them of his business here. He replies, "I am a member of a new faction of resistance that is beginning to infiltrate the Middle and Upper classes. I was wondering if you could allow me in to talk with your Gang leader."
The two guards simply laugh and turn Jack around and push him back towards the van.
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Alright, we have to find something that they want. Are there any things that people around here want, like drugs or booze or prostitution or something?
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"Remember," Jack says as he turns round to the guards, "We infiltrate all levels of society. We can get you stuff that you need."
The guards turn to each other and whisper quietly.
"Expensive booze" One says. "Bring us some fancy booze and we could let you see your Gang Leader, but it's got to be the fancy stuff or you ain't getting in."
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Hmm... Is there any way to get said fancy booze? I mean, do we have to get rich d00dz to get liquor?
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Middle Class Shopping charter: Owners of Premises being used for Shopping in Middle class areas of any British City are allowed to stock items as follows;
* Government Issue Canned Food and Government Issue Pre-Packed Food
* Standard Issue Bottled Water and One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
* Plush Furniture and Standard Furniture
* Correctly Edited Pre-Takeover Literature and Government Approved Modern Literature
* Electronic Goods
* BRITISH POST Newspapers
Stocking of any product not covered by this charter is disallowed and convicts will be sentenced to R.I.R.
* Government Issue Canned Food and Government Issue Pre-Packed Food
* Standard Issue Bottled Water and One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
* Plush Furniture and Standard Furniture
* Correctly Edited Pre-Takeover Literature and Government Approved Modern Literature
* Electronic Goods
* BRITISH POST Newspapers
* Standard Issue Bottled Water and One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
One Government Approved Luxury Drinking Liquid
^ fancy booze (?) :P
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alright, start stockpiling it. Fake receipts and storing them incognito should help us with this.
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Remember "Storage" and the Middle Class Shop currently stocks Beds
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DAMNIT
I thought we had a store that stocked that stuff?
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Nope. We stock beds, because then we can store the beds away in the warehouse so it acts like a barracks but without anybody there
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Damn. hey, can we get a job in transporting liquor from the docks/wherever it comes from?
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This Booze is offloaded each month at Wharf 37. It is usually unloaded between the 18th and the 20th of each month. The booze is carried in small crates and is packed into heavily guarded vans. These are then escorted through the safest route possible by an armed guard with a Rifle. These Vans will go to where ever the booze is required; Stores or Warehouses. It might be possible to do a courier service for the government but it may be hard as many of the places are already taken. If you wish to steal the booze then that would be hard as the guard is a government soldier or a high ranked ex-police officer.
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Hmmm... there's no chance of bribing him, is there?
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There might be, but you are unaware of weather he is trust worthy or not. Maybe somebody knows who to corrupt officials are but not any of the rebel group.
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Can we try to recruit someone who has... assets that would be useful in corrupting guards?
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I suppose that would be possible. Which member of the group do you suggest become the pervert?
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The person with the highest CHA roll, I guess.
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[CHA???] ???
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CHArisma in Dungeons and Dragons.
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He means the most charming/attractive/best at this sorta thing guy we have.
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OH! I thought that Acanthus wanted to recruit some girl who could "Persuade" a guard to do what she wanted. I guess thats just the Teenage mind. :P
Faulkner is the most charismatic character of the group. Perhaps he should convince the guard?
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Let me explain:
Choose the sexiest girl we have to fuck with guards so they spit out information or whatever. Free prostituion, basically.
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Riight, Ok.
Anne is the sexiest girl in the revolution. It would be possible for the van driver and her to meet up during the route. The only problem now is that we need get a driver to be accepted by the government.
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Riight, Ok.
Anne is the sexiest girl in the revolution. It would be possible for the van driver and her to meet up during the route. The only problem now is that we need get a driver to be accepted by the government.
but I thought I was??
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Riight, Ok.
Anne is the sexiest girl in the revolution. It would be possible for the van driver and her to meet up during the route. The only problem now is that we need get a driver to be accepted by the government.
but I thought I was??
Yes, but Max needs to be accepted by the government to take the job. First he needs to apply.
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Riight, Ok.
Anne is the sexiest girl in the revolution. It would be possible for the van driver and her to meet up during the route. The only problem now is that we need get a driver to be accepted by the government.
but I thought I was??
Yes, but Max needs to be accepted by the government to take the job. First he needs to apply.
then i do so
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Max drives down to the Wharf, Wharf 37, and visits the administrator there. He fills in a job application and returns it the administrator. He takes it back with a wry smile. You should get a reply tomorrow or the next day.
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we fast forward 2 days
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We fast forward two days.
( + £ 400 )
( - £ 90 ) for restocking
Max got a letter through the door from the Administrator at Wharf 37. He will take part in couriering Fancy Alcohol to a shop in the Middle Class sector. This will take part on the 19th of July. It is currently the 18th July. For this task he will need to use the van. He should have to transport 2 boxes of Wine. in each box there are ninety bottles
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DO IT, forward one day.
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DO IT, forward one day.
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We fast forward one day.
19th of July
( + £ 200 )
Today is the day where Max will do the courier job. He gets in the drivers seat of the van, making one last sweep of the van for bugs, and drives over to the Wharf. The back is opened and the van is loaded. He makes a turning and down by the road is Anne in her most alluring outfit. Max drives up to her and parks by her side. He turns to the guard.
"Right," he says, "Heres some dough," he hands the guard a wad of money, "and we're gonna take the wine." The guard looks slightly smug.
"I want her" he says. Max makes a gesture to Anne and he gets out of the Van. He walks over to Anne, nods and stands by the Warehouse wall, on look out. A few minutes later, Anne withdraws from the Van, a little out of breath and flustered, and returns to her position on the Sidewalk.
"It's for the good of the cause, Anne" Max whispers. Anne nods. max clambers back into the Van.
"Is that all?" He says to guard and replies without time for him to answer, " Now I suggest you run back to the Wharf and tell them that you were ambushed here by Proles." He winks at the Guard. The guard gets out of the Van and rushes back towards the Wharf, Anne gets into the van.
Max starts the Van up and drives off, "We need to destroy the van or at least make sure to keep it hidden, or else our alibi will be peanuts and the Police will be down on us like a storm." Anne remains silent, disgruntled but happy because she just may have made a vital step forward in the progression of the Revolution.
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Wait, we could change number plates and do a makeshift paintjob. It's possible with normal room paint.
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Wait, we could change number plates and do a makeshift paintjob. It's possible with normal room paint.
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I'm suprised that that worked.
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Where are we going to get another number plate from?
The Van is driven into the warehouse for the time being.
The wine is offloaded and kept in the Office.
Where are we going to get Wall Paint from?
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Can we either buy a home depote style shop or get the paint normally, that is, like, for painting rooms? Or is that illegal?
Also, we could just continue buying shops and spend the shit out of the government :P
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There is a DIY store on the edge of town. This shop has a little range of Paints and tools that are legal to buy
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Well, go for it. Have different members buy the paint so that no-one gets suspicious due to one guy buying like 20 cans of paint.
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20 cans of paint is just normal for shop refurbishment.
If needed, buy more and do the real thing.
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20 cans of paint is just normal for shop refurbishment.
If needed, buy more and do the real thing.
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Jack and the Small warehouse cell (Faulkner, Max, Heather and Ingrid) go off to the DIY store to purchase 20 cans of Paint.
Which colour do you want? Please take into consideration that the van itself is White and government regulations allow vans that are a certain colour for a certain job (White = Courier, Red = Military Service, Blue = Food transportation, Green = bio-chemical waste etc. )
What ever colour you pick the cost will come to £200 for 20 cans
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Make it blue and always have a few crates of food lying in it.
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Make it blue and always have a few crates of food lying in it.
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You buy 20 cans of Government Issue B.L.U
( - £ 200 )
Jack and the Small Warehouse cell have returned to the small warehouse
It should take the rest of the day to paint the Van properly
The license plate is a big giveaway however
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Erm, buy a can of black paint and paint numbers on the backside of our current plate?
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we would have to etch it we use a welder to change the letters and numbers into other the letters and numbers other
if we dont have welder buy one if cant get welder buy a mechanics shop and pay non rev workers to work there
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Riight, Ok.
Anne is the sexiest girl in the revolution. It would be possible for the van driver and her to meet up during the route. The only problem now is that we need get a driver to be accepted by the government.
After the revolution, Anne needs a T-shirt that says this.
I want to make one of these for my GF right now! :P Except, of course, her name isn't Anne. So that would have to change.
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Oh, and guys we don't need to change the van color if every courier van is white. Of course it's white. It's a courier van.
But the plates are an issue. We should have covered the plates on the way to the heist, then uncovered them once we got into a deserted alley within a couple blocks of the Warehouse.
Oh well. Live and learn and get shot forty-two times. ;P
So are we giving the boozeloot to the Silverhand Guys?
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While the Small Warehouse cell paint the van, Jack brings the crates of loot down to the Silverhand warehouse.
The guard looks at Jack in surprise as if he had not expected for Jack to be back, or at least this soon.
Both guards look puzzled but they decide to bring the crates inside. Jack is beckoned to follow. He is lead towards the office where the Silverhand gang leader is working.
"Enter" says the Leader in a Loud voice. Jack is thrust into the room, pallidly lit and hazed by Cigar smoke, and before him sat the Leader in a red leather winged office chair. The leader leaned forward in his seat
"What can I do for you?" He said, a faint smirk on his face. Upon closer inspection the man was in his mid-40s, has a narrow mustache and wore rather camp glasses. He also had a bionic Eye. He spoke with a bored Northern Irish accent.
"Please sir, I am here to represent an Organization that plans to overthrow the government, we call ourselves the Revelution Society. We are a small organization and we wish to gain links in your area of expertise. We would like to know where we can pick up recruits and find links to the black market."
"Thats a big proposition you got there" The man took a smoke from his rather large cigar, his right hand was covered by a large Silver Glove, "Well, I'm Silver Hand round here. I suppose if anyone should know these gentlemen it is I. But I don't think that I should tell you, although you have provided us with this excellent present, you must have gone through some trounle getting this. Tell ye what, you do some stuff for me, I'll tell you when and where you can find these guys. But, as a taster, I'll give you the contact to a Weapon's broker I know, Kay?"
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"Yes, sir!"
>Be his bitch
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He's are way in. Do what he says.
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"Yes sir, whatever you like"
"Ok, first things first, don't give me any of the Ass lick 'Sir' shit, call me by my real name; Silver Hand, Kay? Right, I am working on a small project and I need a few things. First of all, I'm gonna need a big engine, I mean a BIG engine. Seriously the biggest one you can find. You should be able to find a big enough one somewhere around the Docks. Theres a studge Wharf Admin up at Wharf 12, you should be able to get enough info off of him before he tries to get his chubby hands on some of yourn dough. Yeah, I don't want no bullshit ship engines, this things gonna be a big engine but big enough to fit in some vehicle that runs on land. I am also gonna need some 20 Milimeter Ammo bout two hundred round, kay? Don't ask any questions, you get me this stuff by the end of the month and I will give you the contacts, kay?"
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20 mm... Do you mean the autocannon round?!
We'll need to be packing some heat if we want to even think about getting something of that value... Can we get some pistols at least? If we're going to raid a military ammo dump, we gotta be able to get it, or at least get Anne to seduce them all...
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"Won't the Ammo be highly guarded? I mean surely something that deadly would be defended by some Soldiers and you wouldn't just find it lying around"
"Heh," chuckled Silver Hand, "your not as dumb as I thought. That was my test, to see if you were a chump and guess what, You aren't one!" He leaned back in his seat and took another long breath from his cigar, "Just get me the Engine, I've got some goons who will be willing to get me that ammo. You get me that Engine and I have won the Docklands, You get me that engine and you will win the city. I guarantee it! Now get out of here and find me that Engine!"
Jack simply nodded and exited the building the way he came.
( + £ 200 )
20th of July
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Alright, let's make our first move! Have someone scout out the place where the engine is, noting the schedules, the guards, anything useful. Also, see if we can't get our hands on some gasoline, some empty bottles, cloth and matches. Molotovs would be useful here.
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We have the spare fuel from the van that we've been slowly stockpiling. Right?
We really need that reconnaisance before we plan. I agree that we should send one Warehouse member at a time, just to walk by at different times with different Warehouse members, to see what we can see from the outside.
Count nearby parked vehicles. Pay attention to the color, if that tips us off to anything. Find out when they take deliveries and when they send materials out. Does the place close down operations at night?
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Yeah, we should have a schedule to make sure they don't suspect anything. Maybe we can pretend that the people who are meeting there are friends who have a picnic, lovers who steal away into the night, or a hobo who frequents the area. we gotta make them think "lol there's no one here."
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You do not know where the engine is being held at this moment in time
You have approximately 30 Litres of Petrol stockpiled in the Warehouse
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Alright, let's see if we can't find that dude at Wharf 12. BRING ANNE
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Man we should let Anne have a break. She seemed pretty rattled at the last hoe-job.
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Then, we should bring some muscle. Who's our most intimidating dude? Also, fashion simple molotovs from gasoline and old rags and bottles and shanks out of glass.
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The van is fully painted but the License plate stays the same.
Jack strolls on down to Wharf 12, from a distance it doesn't look too different from the other Wharfs, Clustered tall warehouses and a long pier jutting into the Estuary. There is a small-ish vessel moored at the berth at the end.
Jack approaches the admin's office. He taps lightly at the door and is called to enter. Jack sits at the table
"That's £300 tell me where I can find the biggest land-based vehicle engine around here."
( - £ 300 )
The Admin leans back in his chair,
"Well I could tell you where to find a Military Standard APC Engine on the dock," he adopted a smug look on his face, "but it will cost you £200 more."
Total Monies: 29340 Pounds
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we pay it and an extra 100 for silence
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Pay it. We have cash.
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( - £ 300 )
"There you go, and an extra hundred to make sure nobody hears about this" says Jack
"Ok, I'll tell you" He looked satisfied, "There is an Engine for the new RGK-XD coming in secret canister on the 3rd of August at Wharf 32B, it will come under the cover of darkness. Because of the secrecy there will be no more guards than a normal shipment of Tomatoes which it will be disguised as. If you want more information I will require £500"
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( - £ 300 )
"There you go, and an extra hundred to make sure nobody hears about this" says Jack
"Ok, I'll tell you" He looked satisfied, "There is an Engine for the new RGK-XD coming in secret canister on the 3rd of August at Wharf 32B, it will come under the cover of darkness. Because of the secrecy there will be no more guards than a normal shipment of Tomatoes which it will be disguised as. If you want more information I will require £500"
pay up again give him 100 extra and this time also add your´e welcome maybe we will work together in the future
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This guy will milk us dry... We can afford it for now. Pay him.
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"Here is a £100, I'll be seeing you, thank you"
"No problem friend!" Shouts the Admin as Jack walks out of the room. Although that was a efty price to pay for such information it was very useful and we should be able to get this Engine now.
Jack returns to the warehouse.
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Send someone to keep an eye on him, he seems like he will do anything for money. Including ratting us out. If he does something or he will then we can take him out. Hows that?
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how do you plan to take him out? We have no weapons
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Improvised weapons- get a glass bottle lying around or stranglation by hands
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[Ah! Of course the Molotovs]
It will take about a day for the Warehouse cell to Design and test their version of the Molotov Cocktail. It shouldn't take them much longer to create 15 of them.
They will also need glass bottles and cloth for this experiment. How will you go about getting these resources?
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Are glass bottles used to contain any of the foodstuffs we sell? We stocked up some food, we could transfer the stuff from the bottles into some other big container and just eat a lot of pickles or whatever it was over the next couple days.
We have beds, did they come with bedding? I think our goons Loyalists can sleep on pillows that have no pillowcases.
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Are glass bottles used to contain any of the foodstuffs we sell? We stocked up some food, we could transfer the stuff from the bottles into some other big container and just eat a lot of pickles or whatever it was over the next couple days.
We have beds, did they come with bedding? I think our goons Loyalists can sleep on pillows that have no pillowcases.
we do this
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Yes good idea, Foodstuff Jars and Bottles as well as cloth from the Sheets of the beds are used in the production of the Molotovs
( + £ 200 )
21st of July
Testing has been completed. The Molotovs show little problems and should be good to use in a Raid situation. They could also be used as an Improvised Precision weapon.
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We need to pick up some smashy-weapons, and stabby-weapons, and a couple tools.
Everyone needs to grab a rock and stick it in a sock. That'll be your main smashy weapon, used for hitting a guard or smashing a window.
For something stabby, it would be great to get little kitchen knives. But a long sturdy nail would do fine.
We need a pipe or something to be able to pry things open. The end of the pipe is hammered flat. Not as good as a crowbar, but it might work in a pinch?
The main benefit here is that these things can be dropped at any time. And the rock-sock can be created anytime you have rocks and socks, so the Loyalists should practice with those in secret (not sparring with each other! :P )
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We need to pick up some smashy-weapons, and stabby-weapons, and a couple tools.
Everyone needs to grab a rock and stick it in a sock. That'll be your main smashy weapon, used for hitting a guard or smashing a window.
For something stabby, it would be great to get little kitchen knives. But a long sturdy nail would do fine.
We need a pipe or something to be able to pry things open. The end of the pipe is hammered flat. Not as good as a crowbar, but it might work in a pinch?
The main benefit here is that these things can be dropped at any time. And the rock-sock can be created anytime you have rocks and socks, so the Loyalists should practice with those in secret (not sparring with each other! :P )
instead of a rock we use a half-brick but yeah good idea this
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Or failing that, black sand.
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Or failing that, black sand.
NO you need halfbricks
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*Facepalm* Its a discworld reference when rincewind fills his sock with black sand
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Fill it with a particularly solid poop, I don't care :P
It would be awesome if we could make and train with slings, but that may be out of our reach and we could get guns anyway.
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But, as a taster, I'll give you the contact to a Weapon's broker I know, Kay?"
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*Facepalm* Its a discworld reference when rincewind fills his sock with black sand
but he does the same with half-brick *Facepalm*
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well we go speak with the weapons broker but we still fill socks with half-brick
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Spare bricks are in abundance scattered around the Docks. How many do you want to be collected?
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Spare bricks are in abundance scattered around the Docks. How many do you want to be collected?
15 should be enough
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The small contigent from Small Warehouse are sent out to gather Half bricks from the surrounding Docklands area. Socks can be bought from a local shop at £1 per pair.
Jack is sent to the Weapons Broker. As it is now dark, Jack hurries down a small alley way lit by one harsh Yellow Lamp. The path between the two large dome-topped Warehouses is cluttered rubbisha dn half-blocked by the occasional overfillied dumpster. The weapons broker waits behind a particularly large dumpster.
"Listen my friend," he says in a youthful, yet breathy, scottish accent, "I'll give you the guns you need, how many men do you need to arm?"
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5 should be good. I guess we should look for pistols, submachine guns, anything easy to use and commonplace. I mean, 9mm is quite common. I think that military grade (5.56 mm, 7.62 mm) munitions would be easier to trace, since it's more powerful (don't take my word for it, I'm no gun expert) than 9mm.
Silencers would be tantamount.
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"Well, I have five 9mm Pistols please. I take it you provide ammo?"
"Aye I do laddie, but you won't be able to contact me after the first delivery so don't think you will be able to get hold of any extra from me", he licked his lips and preceded, "Where do you want this firepower delivered?"
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Probably to some abandoned warehouse miles from our location.
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At the same time, try to prepare for publicity materials.
Is there any restriction to owning a printing machine?
Is there any restriction to unsolicited mailing?
We are fighting for freedom. Not OUR freedom, but everyone's freedom. We want the people be ideologically more than ready when we finally burst onto the scene.
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Why not try to find out if there are other underground resistances?
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"Well, I have five 9mm Pistols please. I take it you provide ammo?"
"Aye I do laddie, but you won't be able to contact me after the first delivery so don't think you will be able to get hold of any extra from me", he licked his lips and preceded, "Where do you want this firepower delivered?"
but in that case we will have 30 with 250 magazines
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What about silenced weapons?
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9mm's are good, and should be easy to find a silencer for one.
Although, I'd have prefered getting a Makarov PM or a .45 instead of a 9mm.
One is light, small, and rugged, and very reliable although hard to find ammo for. While the other a .45 has higher stopping power.
Uh, how many .45s could we get? Would something like a USP. Compact or Colt be worth more than a 9mm? Kills a little faster.
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I would think that making sure that they can't hear us is better, but I guess the leader can carry a .45.
WE NEED SILENCERS
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Isn't there a way to make improvised ones? However we should only do that if we can't get normal silencers.
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I heard of using layered pillows and stuff, but I'm no guerrilla.
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Locate a garden store. They have tons of stuff to use in making IEDs. I know from uhhhh..... "experience" -sneaks away-
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I saw on CSI that you can make a makeshift silencer from a water bottle with a hole drilled in the bottom and muffling material stuffed inside. Bulky but it should work.
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What about silenced weapons?
"Have you got any silenced weapons you can sell us?"
"Aye I can get hold of some, but their expensive. Buying all these weapons with Full ammunition and Silencers is gonna bump the price up to £1500 for the bundle."
"The price is fine"
"Right then lad, where do you want thees weapons dropped off?"
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Hrm...
How much for a Warsaw Pact weapon? (Soviet crap)
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Okay, we should ask it to be delivered at a predisclosed wharf, one that we can find easily, and that is relatively out of the way.
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I still want a Warsaw Pact piece of shit.
Oh well, a Wharf seems nice. But make a few men make sure the area is safe first.
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This.
I'm back guize after five-day mute :/
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Send them to our werehouse without attacting trouble Plus I say we should give around £2000 for everything and for a way to contact him again. Hey we can always use a contact for weapons.
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"We'd like you to deposit them at an out-of-the-way wharf. Do you have any suggestions?"
"Aye. Probably 8C is your best bet, not a ship has gone in or out of there for years. I'll leave it for you in the old Admin's Office, there shouldn't be anyone there, you just need to pick up the package after the 23rd of July."
"Thanks, here's the money"
( - £ 1500 )
Jack picks his way through the mess and turns back towards Warehouse. Two cars rush up the street the other way, one with a silver hand, the other with a Large Crest of the State. The government car chases the Silver hand car down the street and around the block.
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"We'd like you to deposit them at an out-of-the-way wharf. Do you have any suggestions?"
"Aye. Probably 8C is your best bet, not a ship has gone in or out of there for years. I'll leave it for you in the old Admin's Office, there shouldn't be anyone there, you just need to pick up the package after the 23rd of July."
"Thanks, here's the money"
( - £ 1500 )
Jack picks his way through the mess and turns back towards Warehouse. Two cars rush up the street the other way, one with a silver hand, the other with a Large Crest of the State. The government car chases the Silver hand car down the street and around the block.
we goe there .
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Bad idea, let them handle themselves, we cannot get involved yet. If they see us, its R.I.R for us. Not good. What you should be doing right now is handling your shops and making some balaclava's. (Full covering masks made from fabric that leaves the eyes, nose and mouth open.) Those should come in handy if you need to take offensive action.
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Actually I say we make those balaclavas without the mouth or nose holes. A little more concealing.
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Those are so you can breathe more easily, which can be handy when running away from soldiers.
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Breathing is important.
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Meh.
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Well, if you must disguise more, you can wear goggles or black sunglasses or something underneath the balaclava to protect your eyes and shield them from view, as well as not cutting a mouth hole as it is not as important as the nose hole, but that will both restrict heavy breathing and your speach, but that may not be a bad thing.
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Alright, I like the above.
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Well, if you must disguise more, you can wear goggles or black sunglasses or something underneath the balaclava to protect your eyes and shield them from view, as well as not cutting a mouth hole as it is not as important as the nose hole, but that will both restrict heavy breathing and your speach, but that may not be a bad thing.
Alright, I like the above.
THiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiS
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Cut this 'Thiiiiiiiiiiis' poo poo out. Its so annoying. Its okay when everyones doing it but when its just you just do it Normally like the rest of us.
Also I agree with zako
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No sunglasses or Goggles are allowed, no good citizen would want to hide his Identity!
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What about welding masks? The kind that's used to prevent blindness when using those torchie thingies?
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Welding Masks are rendered useless due to new remotely operated Production Lines and Robotics.
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Cool. Can we order a basic mechanic's rig, so we can earn some monies by repairing vehicles, or is that illegal?
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How about we start to buy machetes buy brown aprons and also get welding masks. Wait... No, I agree with getting a mechanics place started
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A Mechanic's Shop will require men who are Trained in the Art of engineering. It will require at least 5 Men to man a Shop for a day. Buying a building capable of becoming a Mechanic's will cost about £2000, getting it fixed up and renovated will cost another £5000.
Each cell is busy with their jobs.
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Hmm, can we hire some people (they won't be indoctrinated... yet) to do this? I would like to have skilled people to do this job, which might even be a boon, as our men might be able to learn a thing or two.
Also a look at our holdings would be nice.
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Hmm, can we hire some people (they won't be indoctrinated... yet) to do this? I would like to have skilled people to do this job, which might even be a boon, as our men might be able to learn a thing or two.
Also a look at our holdings would be nice.
i want to know too
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thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis issssssssssssssssssss sooooooo deeeeeeeeeeeeeead
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apparently maybe eventually not...